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Saturday, August 24, 2013

Novelist Lee Wae Soo publicly supports Hyosung


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Article: Lee Wae Soo publicly supports Hyosung over Ilbe controversy "Must she receive criticism for the rest of her life?"

Source: TV Report via Naver

1. [+3,600, -253] Because he has a history of marijuana use and extramarital intercourse, he's asking if he should still receive criticism for the rest of his life, too.

2. [+2,992, -148] Look at him bringing up Hyosung's controversy as it was about to be forgotten just so he can justify his own mistakes ㅋㅋㅋ

3. [+2,517, -129] More like asking for forgiveness for his own crimes ㅋㅋ

4. [+2,219, -501] I doubt Hyosung actually is an Ilbe user... what kind of real Ilbe user would make it so obvious like that on broadcast? They're all cautious about getting caught. Hyosing's just stupid.

5. [+687, -32] What is wrong with him? Why bring up something that was about to be forgotten so Hyosung gets more hate? Why is he trying to end her career like that?

6. [+504, -31] I used to think highly of Lee Wae Soo grandpa until I heard about his marijuana use and extramarital affairs... as well as him threatening to sue Ilbe kids for saying crap about him.

7. [+248, -25] I think being labeled as an Ilbe user is worse than saying cao ni ma

8. [+217, -61] I think Ilbe users are crazy but people witch hunting anyone associated with Ilbe are just as crazy

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134 comments:

  1. 4. [+2,219, -501] I doubt Hyosung actually is an Ilbe user... what kind of real Ilbe user would make it so obvious like that on broadcast? They're all cautious about getting caught. Hyosing's just stupid.



    THIS

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  2. Ah boy. Here we go again.

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  3. Comment number 4 calls Hyosung stupid... spells her name wrong.
    And honestly I think Hyosung should be forgiven for anything she's done. As a T-ARA fan, I know what it's like to have an idol or group you love be criticized and hated for what seems like an extremely long time without full justification... :(

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  4. I wonder why being on Ilbe is such a crime. I mean you see Knetz hating on everyone in a lot of comment sections. I dont think that's any better. What the big deal with Marihuana? I really want to know. I live in the Netherlands so it's quite normal to me that people use it.

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  5. 1. [+3,600, -253] Because he has a history of marijuana use and extramarital intercourse, he's asking if he should still receive criticism for the rest of his life, too.
    /DEAD.

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  6. In comment number 4 maybe it's a typo from netizenbuzz.

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  7. i'm pretty sure that's a typo from when NB was translating it and not that original post that spelled it incorrectly^^

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  8. 2. [+2,992, -148] Look at him bringing up Hyosung's controversy as it was about to be forgotten just so he can justify his own mistakes ㅋㅋㅋ

    Hyosung's controversy was mentioned a few times in the past weeks though so it wasn't any close to being forgotten yet

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  9. drugs (yes, even marijuana) is pretty frowned upon in asia. it's not just sk.

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  10. they should forget about her incident. She was trying to act smart by saying the wrong thing.

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  11. Marijuana is illegal. That's why.

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  12. I think people probably use it in korea as well but SK is quite conservative compared to most 1st world countries. If it's used, it's not talked about in the media and in music like it is in the US (I say US cause that's where I am and I can speak for that). And I think the laws are more strict for marijuana use in korea possibly and that's why it's a big deal(??)

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  13. Ilbe isn't just a place for bashing. It's a place full of psychopaths who say make fun of people's deaths, hate on women, and commit a lot of crimes. There was once a guy on it who posted a photo (or a video, can't remember) of him raping a puppy

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  14. [+217, -61] I think Ilbe users are crazy but people witch hunting anyone associated with Ilbe are just as crazy

    wow, a rational and well thought view on the irrational and blinded criticism of some netizens.

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  15. I know. But you dont have to go all crazy over it... Sometimes it seems to me like they treat someone as if he murdered a person. But basedmitsuji said it was very frowned upon, so thats probably why.

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  16. I don't think Ilbe people are bad people.

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  17. Thanks you for explainig (: I understand now.

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  18. Don't apply your western standards to Asian though. Drugs are seen as REALLY bad and controversial there.

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  19. oh god that's disgusting. Worse than 4CHAN.

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  20. but he doesn't look like someone who use marijuana.

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  21. Forgive her already the poor child went through hell paying for the price of using ONE word unintentionally.
    How cruel can human being get?....

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  22. note: what I mean is, those cases in which netizens extrapolate from simple things like using a certain word or such into that person necessarily being an ilbe supporter and then backlashing like crazy.

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  23. 4chan is well known for hunting down animal abusers. It's the line you don't cross there.

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  24. I dont apply my standards. (maybe you think so because I said you don't have to go all crazy over it, but I didnt apply my own standards). I really didnt know why they got so crazy over it. I can understand now why they do that though.

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  25. Are the girls on hiatus or do they have current activities ?

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  26. because of BB scandal?

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  27. [+2,992, -148] Look at him bringing up Hyosung's controversy as it was
    about to be forgotten just so he can justify his own mistakes ㅋㅋㅋ
    This.

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  28. comment #8 finally has some rationality over this ilbe shit

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  29. 7. [+248, -25] I think being labeled as an Ilbe user is worse than saying cao ni ma
    Oh c'mon ! Seriously ?

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  30. Ikr she even apologised right off the bat when she found out she was wrong and has ever since been saying sorry at every chance she gets... sigh* knetizens just never seems to forgive or forget anything related to idols esp =.=

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  31. I don't remember but I remember reading some comments on various articles that mentioned it

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  32. Hyosung is going to be a cast in a drama soon they're all doing a little stuff here and there.

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  33. Never judge a book by it's cover...
    ((btw If this was sarcasm; Ignore my comment x))

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  34. Read my comment under HisperTikal. It describes just how bad they are lol (they're basically psychopaths, criminals, rapists, animal abusers, etc.)

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  35. thanks for letting me know

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  36. posting media about raping animals and other horrors is way worse than saying "fuck your mom" so i agree i wouldnt want to be associated with that

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  37. raping animals is obviously worse than saying "mother fucker"

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  38. yeah but its not her who post media about raping animals . i can agree with you if you or anyone have any proof that she post such things . knowing ilbe stuff means they TOO read ilbe so they can and hyosung cant ? oh yeah let me LAUGH about how stupid and patheticly hilarious those netizens are .

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  39. No offense to anyone uh well, I'm a perverted prick!
    Every time I see Hyosung!

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  40. Tsk tsk so naughty~

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  41. It's just feels ;_;

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  42. "There was once a guy on it who posted a photo (or a video, can't remember) of him raping a puppy"



    That was fake.


    I don't know how many times it has to be said.

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  43. 6. [+504, -31] I used to think highly of Lee Wae Soo grandpa until I heard about his marijuana use and extramarital affairs... as well as him threatening to sue Ilbe kids for saying crap about him.



    are you *gasps* defending ilbe users?? ? ? dishonor on your family dishonor on your cow

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  44. I usually don't comment on ilbe articles but I got details on what ilbe is on a swedish blog and I GET WHY k-netizens are so damn obsessed with it. It's disgusting what ilbe users say and do but I find in a bit ironic. ilbe users do a lot but one of the things they do are looking down on people especially WOMEN... for me k-netizens are the same... not all of them but from the comments on this site and on variety shows on tv k-netizens sometimes are not better. I sometimes cringe more than laugh on variety shows especially on how they treat gag women and men. I know it's for entertainment but it's not funny and neither is it a good thing for the younger generation to look up to. I've heard so many stories from young girls and some boys that feel depressed how they are treated. Watching for example Hello Consular makes me want to slap some people.


    There is so much that has to be done in the korean society... It's sad but I think based on recent comments here and there k-netizens are starting to change ^^

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  45. so why does he have like over million followers on twitter , the number of followers he has is A HUGE evidence that haters are nobodies and you can still be very popular while having those stupid haters cyper bully you in every occasion

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  46. what are you talking about?

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  47. what was the scandal

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  48. busker busker ilbe scandal.

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  49. The hypocrisy in the comments. Meh.

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  50. 4. Not sure if it makes it any better when she gets labelled as simply stupid lol

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  51. I feel so bad for Hyosung, she's apologised and reflected so many times over the controversy already. I just hope she stays strong through it all

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  52. aah yeah I also though the vast majority wouldnt be like that. Thanks for clarifying c:

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  53. he tryin to get it IN

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  54. Knetzs just dont know how to forgive and forget.

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  55. I don't think anyone on here has ever dealt with/spoken to an ilbe user before. Or realizes how terrifying they are. They're psychotic and unstable and I can't imagine a normal functioning human being saying the things they say/acting the way they do. I feared for my life ngl.

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  56. http://cdn.lolchamp.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Never-Judge-A-Book-By-Its-Cover..jpg

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  57. ohh
    everytime I see BB, I think of Big Bang

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  58. #6: " I used to think highly of Lee Wae Soo grandpa until I heard about his marijuana use and extramarital affairs... as well as him threatening to sue Ilbe kids for saying crap about him.
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    well i wont comment on the previous two actions but, u lost respect to him cuz he wanted to sue illbe? i thought illbe are the bad guys here 0.0

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  59. I think you replied to the wrong person, hon

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  60. ...you've never been on illbe it seems... and I've seen the photos

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  61. it's ok wifu *pats on shoulder*

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  62. HyunseungxJunhyungxJayPAugust 24, 2013 at 8:43 PM

    She should think before saying things like that. Koreans take things like that very seriously, so more than likely it won't be forgotten.

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  63. You misunderstood, i was just being upset for this netizen bringing Sulli here.

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  64. My comment was about this netizen bringing Sulli in this article.

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  65. The puppy raping photoshop?Yeah seen plenty of far worse shopped pictures on 4chan years ago.Even the OP said it was shopped,only idiots(I.E brainless netizens who speak without knowing anything) believed they were real.

    It seems it is yourself who has never been on ilbe or any board like it.

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  66. amaya aguero monzonAugust 24, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    I said from the beginning that Hyosung was just dumb when she said that !

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  67. "It's a place full of psychopaths who make fun of people's deaths, hate on women, and commit a lot of crimes..."


    You've just described Twitter and Facebook. It's not as if *Hyosung* is the one raping puppies... should SHE be held responsible for the actions of people she doesn't even know?

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  68. Netizens are just internet users. We all have quite dull lives in reality.

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  69. this guy was on we got married and gave advice to hyung don and tae yeon, look how that worked out. just kidding. you'd think out of secret sunhwa would get hate for saying stupid things but hyosung ended up getting more hate. hyosung just wanted to sound smart answering a question, but ended up choosing the wrong word. she actually apologized many times, so she should get a second chance to learn from her mistake.

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  70. OK let's say those were photoshop... there are still a lot of equally appalling shit happening on Ilbe. Sure, most of the time it could just be spamming shit but things happen on it. I remember reading an article about this stupid teen who destroyed his whole house just because his mother wouldn't cook him dinner <-- psychopathic. Also, why compare it to 4chan? I never said that Illbe was worse than 4chan (I never even mentioned 4chan and frankly I don't go on it so I have no idea what 4chan is about but I do know Ilbe and it's pretty bad on my standards - and Korean standards which is quite clear)

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  71. It's because Crayon Pop moved to the top of Ilbe-associated K-netizen hate list when their CEO used Ilbe terms and then K-netizens found old tweets back when nobody paid attention to Crayon Pop of their CEO talking about how he and a Crayon Pop member viewed Ilbe to track feedback for Crayon Pop.

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  72. ik but netizens will never stop bringing her up, not until she owes up to it. which doesn't look like anytime soon.

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  73. nobody said she was an ilbe user, just that what she did wasn't as bad as being "part" of ilbe and their fuckery like these celebrities are blamed to be

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  74. [+217, -61] I think Ilbe users are crazy but people witch hunting anyone associated with Ilbe are just as crazy

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  75. Comparing it to 4chan because most people reading the comments will have been on there a few times atleast.This helps people who've never actually been on ilbe to understand what it is like.

    I think you,like many others,were gullible enough to think this was this persons "mothers house".I made the same comment on the article before;

    "*Someone trashed their own house to get attention on ilbe."



    People do this shit and worse for attention on every site.If you haven't been on 4chan,then you might have been on reddit,tumblr,twitter or Facebook.You can see people lie just for attention

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  76. lol at 4 and agreed with 5...i forgot about it but was just reminded when i saw the article

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  77. Last comment is on point.

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  78. What Swedish blog?

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  79. i've seen lately NB had been posting lots of article about ilbe. so what is it actually? i still can't get it.

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  80. no...just no...

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  81. Was he the one on 1N2D? The one who is friends with Kim C. He seems familiar.

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  82. I explained it in Kim Hyun Tae article on the second page.: )

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  83. Will secret and Hyosung as well as the idols that quotes Ilbe words be able to rise up to their full normal status again or are there going to be critizise all their lives even if they are just plain stupid

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  84. oh, alright. btw, thanks for the info.

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  85. Just another netizenAugust 24, 2013 at 11:28 PM

    OMG people, forgive and forget.

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  86. 8. [+217, -61] I think Ilbe users are crazy but people witch hunting anyone associated with Ilbe are just as crazy



    thank you!

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  87. I honestly think the immature kids who hate on her for this still probably already didn't like her or were jealous of her before the ilbe slip and as soon as they found a reason to hate her and bring her down, they took the bull by the horns and ran the fuck out of it.
    We all use the wrong words sometimes. She just happened to use the wrong /wrong/ word and at the wrong time since North Korea was sending out all those threats at the time. Why is it such a big deal when she's obviously extremely remorseful and sorry about it? How many apologies does the poor girl have to send out?

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  88. though honestly... must all the celebrities receive criticism for the rest of their life...even when it's a matter that can be changed and fix jee ...even when it's already fixed ... siiiigh

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  89. Forgiving only makes you the bigger person, so netizens, learn how to forgive once in a while! It won't make you any less of a person, but just a bigger and a better human being. =)

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  90. people almost forget about hyosung controversies ... why did he bring it up ?

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  91. While it is true that there are many immoral things on Ilbe, you got carried away too far. Too exaggerated.

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  92. And you know what? Ilbe is actually known for animal loving, esp dogs and cats.. It's funny how some ppl who can't even read Ilbe by themselves make up shit about the site...Lol.

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  93. this guy shouldn't bring back that kind of incident anymore because he will Hyosung in hot seat once more

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  94. "8. [+217, -61] I think Ilbe users are crazy but people witch hunting anyone associated with Ilbe are just as crazy"



    I've been thinking about this for awhile now...

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  95. 7. [+248, -25] I think being labeled as an Ilbe user is worse than saying cao ni ma

    Ok I don´t know what´s going on but this comment made my day

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  96. 8. [+217, -61] I think Ilbe users are crazy but people witch hunting anyone associated with Ilbe are just as crazy

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    preach!

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  97. Koreans never forget

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  98. She didn't say anything wrong..she juz used the wrong term..it should be democracy not democratization...that's all..and in Korea, it seems that the term used is being used by ilbe users...these k-netz are just being sensitive over nothing..sorry to say

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  99. Oh I've read some of it (no, not by myself - my half Korean friend translated a lot of it for me) and it was pretty offensive to me. But hey, maybe it's just a cultural thing and I get offended more easily? Say what you want but the amount of woman-hating on it and making fun of serious issues is too much for me. Also, I wasn't exaggerating. I just listed some things that were on it and all of them were there. If the dog thing happened to be the photoshop then that's good. I want to believe it's a photoshop but this doesn't make that place sane.

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  100. "The North Never Forgets" Lol...Sorry..am in Games of thrones mode now and I just had to type that..please don't see it as a South Korea,north korea thing. lol

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  101. I think my country had a very forgiven citizen coz they still can accept any artist or comedian that be caught several times for drug, that artist can even be on tv and act like nothing happen.

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  102. Nothing in Korea is ever forgotten unless of course it's an inconvenient truth.

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  103. I love Hyosung but yeah the girl was just being plain ignorant. I remember the 1st time I was on ilbe and saw the word. The fact it was being used as something negative on the site. I clearly new it was bad news if did the same. Hyosung isn't an ilbe user but probably just saw the word on ilbe and made it a part of her vocabulary. Since using the term 민주화 as something negative anywhere other than ilbe will get you hate online.
    It's a bit sad she doesn't know what democracy meant since I've known since grade 4. I think they should cut her some slack, a girl can only take being called stupid so many times.

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  104. Yeah and they potentially lose a lot of their creative people because of it. It's no wonder they can't sell their watered down version of western art forms outside of korea. It's all technically perfect but has no soul.

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  121. aaaaaand what the hell has happened to hyosung's face...

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  122. I think netizens are sometimes over the top with ilbe, I've read some of their stuff and seriously all I did was laugh because they're funny ~ yes some are total dicks and love hating on things they don't agree with and also post real weird things but its not like every ilbe user is like that. idk whatever them guys say its basically a group of people sick of everything and bored so they entertain themselves.

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  123. [+2,517, -129] More like asking for forgiveness for his own crimes ㅋㅋ


    Crimes? You lucky if you consider these "incidents" crimes. You probably live pretty sheltered life.

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  124. Woah he's been through the ringer. But I support Hyosung too.

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  125. dang.. what is it ever gonna end. :/

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  126. who told people had forgotten about it? if it's forgotten why is she and secret still being blacklisted?

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  127. Seriously, how can you hate on those lovelies?

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  128. I don't know but i just love novelist LOL

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