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Tuesday, September 30, 2014

Follow Up: Jessica

Article: Jessica's rumors of leave, Chinese media "Unbelievable, filled with deep regret"

Source: Newsen via Nate

1. [+474, -86] Honestly, I don't think Jessica's at fault here. Even as she was opening her own business, she never affected the team or Soshi's image negatively with her personal life. It's actually been Taeyeon or Hyoyeon who affected it negatively with their problems with men. Isn't Taeyeon the one that ruined SNSD's image with her SNS dating stuff? And she's still going on about that family picture and whatnot. Hyoyeon also had a lot white noise with her ex-boyfriend. Jessica hasn't done anything of the sort and it's become an 8:1 battle where I think it's too early to blame Jessica's business... SM was too hasty in kicking her out.. As well as the 8 members agreeing to it. The entire situation is unfortunate to watch, it's as if we're seeing the entire process of a team falling apart..


Article: '8' Soshi vs Jessica and SM... what will happen after

Source: Star News via Nate

1. [+314, -108] It's not like SNSD is going to make them money for the rest of their lives. The other members are in musicals, acting, radio, and even date as well, why can't Jessica? Or are the other members jealous that she's making her own money now with a wealthy boyfriend so they kicked her out? It would've been better for them to support and believe in a member they've treated like a family for years... They're too old to be idols now, what's so wrong with going into other businesses?

2. [+208, -83] The other SNSD members all date and have individual activities.. so imagine what Jessica did was bad enough to get kicked out. I'm sure they tried to be understanding but she crossed a line that warranted being kicked out. She must've been really selfish because it's not being kicked out of SM but SNSD, so the members obviously had enough dealing with her. It's not like the other members don't want to open businesses or get married, they're just holding back for the sake of the group while Jessica chose not to.

3. [+150, -34] It's a problem for her to bring her boyfriend around to filmings and such for the sake of her business. And if Jessica said so herself that she'd leave after one album, the problem lies with her.


Article: SM "Weibo post was indeed made by Jessica" official confirmation

Source: Star News via Nate

1. [+326, -58] As expected, SNSD was a fake image made for broadcast ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

2. [+403, -167] Why is Yoona allowed to act and miss Soshi promotions while Jessica can't run a business on top of attending her official schedules? This all sounds like an excuse to me and SM's just mad that she's doing something they don't get to profit off of.

3. [+192, -65] I don't understand the best replies. The other members doing solo acting activities still means they're managed by SM while personal businesses can't be managed by SM. SNSD has seen what happens when personal businesses get involved like JYJ. Other SNSD members are promoting as actors or units but they never promote to the point where they're the only ones in the spotlight. They always kept SNSD as the foremost important promotion. Jessica probably started to break that and it became harder to convince her otherwise.


Source: Nate

1. [+267, -85] Not a Soshi fan but I don't think the other members should be blamed for agreeing to kick her out. I'd be more disappointed in Jessica for putting her business above the SNSD members, something they've kept together for years...

2. [+222, -40] Seems this happened because Jessica was overly ambitious with her dating, business, wedding, and even SNSD promotions. She's a bit greedy. You can't be good at everything in this world.


Article: 'Soshi withdrawal' Jessica, was her marriage to Tyler Kwon + fashion business the problem?

Source: Mydaily via Nate

1. [+402, -96] The WG members are so nice if you think about it... Sunye made an entirely selfish decision but they still believed in her and supported her... As for SNSD, so many people thought they'd last a long time but they are all only in it for the business... If the 8 members decided that it was better for their future to leave Jessica out... well... I wonder how things would've turned out if they chose instead to believe in her instead.

2. [+229, -62] Jessica probably realized their bond was all business. So she started her own business before things all came to an end. If SNSD was really that important to her, she could've delayed her business a bit more since SNSD has promotions scheduled up to the next year. Maybe the other members interpreted that as her not caring since she's leaving anyway since she went through with her business despite negotiations. I think the members who have it the hardest are the ones left right now. Sunye was selfish, but Jessica's just as if not more.

3. [+178, -33] She expected too much thinking she could date, run a business, and still be in Soshi.


Article: What will happen to Jessica's dongseng Krystal? "No problem... to focus on drama"

Source: Star News via Nate

1. [+360, -13] From a fellow member to now her sister... The stress she must be under right now.

2. [+299, -13] Fellow member Sulli's digging her own grave... labelmate sister is fighting the agency... Sigh, poor Krystal, what a rough year for her

3. [+167, -15] Didn't seem like Krystal wanted Jessica to get married either. She said that on their sister show.


Article: Taeyeon's SNS post earns attention following Jessica's leave "Family style" but only 7 icons... why?

Source: E-Today via Nate

1. [+1,215, -140] This sly fox knew all along. She tried to make it obvious with Baekhyun too with the oreo picture.

2. [+1,113, -171] She's the one who got caught kissing Baekhyun in a sports car.. meanwhile she kicks a fellow member out just because she got wedding rumors with a chaebol ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

3. [+1,192, -287] There is no friendship between women. They are all in it for the business. When I watched Taetiseo, they didn't even look that close and the three of them said that they didn't know they'd become a unit. I think the members agreed to kick Jessica out because they got jealous of Jessica running a successful business and having a wealthy boyfriend on top of a sister who has a leading drama role now. Not like Sooyoung, Yoona, or Hyoyeon have boyfriends who can take care of them for the rest of their lives. Yuri doesn't have any real work or talent for individual activities and is being called a pig now after gaining weight. Seohyun's young so she has potential and Taeyeon can stick to being a singer since she's talented and Tiffany seems to be the simple type who sticks to doing what she likes like musicals and her boyfriend Nichkhun. Sooyoung's not good enough for a lead, Jung Kyung Ho's just whatever, Hyoyeon's dating some abusive man, Yoona's dramas aren't doing well, Lee Seung Gi's popularity has dropped, Sunny can be cute for a bit on varieties before getting married off to someone wealthy since her uncle's Lee Soo Man. Jessica's really the only successful one, I'd be jealous too. I bet this all happened because of jealousy... Real friendship only happens when you're young and don't understand how the real world works. Society changes you.


SM confirms Jessica will no longer be promoting with SNSD

Article: SM "SNSD to promote as 8 members... we will support Jessica in her personal activities" (official statement)

X Sports News via Naver

1. [+3,858, -305] So this means the other members did agree to kicking her out...

2. [+3,283, -215] This is going to hugely impact SNSD's image... I'm more worried about Krystal

3. [+2,762, -246] Ha... But she's a member they've been together with for years...

4. [+2,248, -225] I'm leaving the fandom...

5. [+834, -186] They're professionals before they're close friends. The nine of them need to always be together so of course the remaining eight will be mad when she's always bringing her boyfriend into things and focusing on her own business. What betrayal is there? The eight of them are the ones being betrayed.

6. [+656, -73] Seems like the parents of the other members and the members kicked her out because of her business ㅡ.ㅡ

7. [+573, -99] So Dispatch was right... I'm more shocked that the other members agreed to it

8. [+511, -63] So personal businesses means you get kicked out


Source: Nate

1. [+279, -7] I'll summarize it in two lines for the rest of you:
Jessica: I have personal stuff going on so I'll just promote one more album.
SM: Goodbye if you're going to be like that;;

2. [+242, -6] To organize what's going on... Jessica said she'd only promote one more album before leaving and SM tried to stop her saying she couldn't do that.. but now that Jessica's running a business on her own and going around with her boyfriend, SM's just asking her to leave now.

3. [+156, -13] What personal matter could she have? Is she wanting to get married?


Source: Nate [2]

1. [+71, -3] This could turn into a muddy fight. SM said Jessica wanted to leave first while Jessica said SM kicked her out first. Only difference is Jessica wanted to stay for one more album while SM's just moving forward as eight members.

2. [+68, -1] So it is true that Jessica wanted to leave after one more album..

3. [+63, -11] Seems she wanted to retire and get married after one more album.. and the company didn't want that. And the business was the straw that broke the camel's back with them.


Follow Up: Rumors run rampant as SM remains silent on Jessica's post

Article: [Exclusive] "Tyler Kwon"... the center point of Jessica vs Soshi8?

Source: Dispatch via Nate

1. [+868, -37] Jessica probably thought it was okay to run her own business as well as promote as a girl group while the company wants her to focus solely on the girl group and is drawing the line now...

2. [+512, -39] Maybe she didn't discuss the brand launching with SM? Even in regular companies, holding concurrent positions is prohibited and worthy of expulsion.

3. [+420, -14] Why does that Tyler guy follow his girlfriend around work everywhere ㅋ


Source: Naver

1. [+17,664, -1,440] I'm more shocked that the eight of them agreed to it

2. [+13,970, -2,609] Seeing as how SM still hasn't said anything must mean that it's true. But the Soshi members are so disloyal.

3. [+10,637, -195] Tyler Kwon's appearance... Dispatch, dang

4. [+8,549, -1,029] Can't believe she's kicked out, sounds so weird

5. [+3,794, -612] She's already planned an entire new life outside of Soshi but she probably didn't want to leave Soshi since it'd be a waste anyway... I think Jessica needs to voluntarily leave the group.


Source: Nate

1. [+381, -93] If it's true that Jessica took her boyfriend to recordings and stuff then she has no excuse. This is her fault.

2. [+294, -62] With the way things are sounding, it seems like Jessica was lax on Soshi promotions because she's too busy dating and running a business

3. [+260, -42] Why is she doing this after renewing her contract? Puts her dongseng in an awkward position too


Article: Jessica's steps have been suspicious... met with JYJ lawsuit lawyer Im Sang Hyuk, but why?

Source: Sports Seoul via Nate

1. [+566, -13] Krystal's still in SM... what's going on...;;

2. [+525, -19] So Jessica's known all along that this could've happened.

3. [+386, -16] What's the truth... speak up, SM



1. [+312, -20] If she's going to get married, she shouldn't have renewed over the summer

2. [+299, -29] What was the point of renewing her contract if she's going to get married? Did she want to be like Sunye?

3. [+234, -25] Puts her sister in an awkward position


Source: Naver

1. [+7,041, -84] Seeing as how SM and Soshi are both quiet, there definitely is something going on...

2. [+6,942, -740] SM's obviously the one holding the power here. The members all join the entertainment industry at such a young age that they're trapped into the rules of business like puppets. If it's true that she's kicked out, it ruins SNSD's image

3. [+5,336, -177] They all look so serious... different from looking tired

4. [+1,624, -216] Didn't Taeyeon post a picture of herself wearing a trench coat yesterday? If it's true Jessica's being kicked out, what's SNSD doing? They're no different from T-ara

5. [+1,293, -132] Dae to the bak, if the SNSD members really agreed to this, that's a huge disappointment. I just saw them saying Soshi is one on Radio Star even if they get married.


Source: Naver

1. [+1,909, -48] SM is even still holding on to Sulli after she screwed up two f(x) albums and burned her image to the ground, what would they kick Jessica out for? SM knows that they're in danger if it's not Soshi9, what's going on?

2. [+1,211, -30] It must be real if she even met with a lawyer... and SM hasn't put out an official statement yet so her Weibo might not've been hacked..

3. [+1,171, -19] Even if it's early morning, it's been two hours and SM still hasn't responded... meaning it's probably true she was kicked


Article: Taeyeon posted on SNS 15 hours before Jessica's rumors 'same group, different situation?'

Source: TV Daily via Nate

1. [+646, -44] It seems the other members already knew when you read Jessica's post... and posting things like this on SNS just shows there was discord between the members.

2. [+534, -22] What's the point in worrying about celebrities?

3. [+375, -21] What's important here is whether she was really kicked or not

4. [+62, -9] Taeyeon needs to quit SNS. She put up a selca when Leeteuk's father passed away and another selca during Hyoyeon's scandal. Why does she dig her own grave?

5. [+49, -7] You really believe nine members would be friends for 10 years? ㅋㅋㅋ Girls fight and break up and keep grudges till death. I'm sorry but you're not supposed to believe what you see on camera. Everyone's just putting on a show...

6. [+44, -3] I'm sure girls know what I'm saying when I say it's a miracle that so many girls stayed close for so long. Even best friends turned roommates become enemies. What makes you think SNSD is any different?


Monday, September 29, 2014

Seungri faints with a high fever

Article: [Exclusive] Big Bang Seungri faints with 40 degree high fever... won't be attending AG ending ceremony

Source: OSEN via Nate

1. [+603, -119] What a show put on by a drunk driving hit and run criminal tsk tsk

2. [+495, -30] He caused the car accident... why is the article written saying he suffered an accident???

3. [+353, -40] ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ?

4. [+26, -3] So why'd he get off the ambulance? Did someone strangle him?

5. [+25, -5] He's sick and look at how people are reacting ㅋ It's like watching the aftermath of the boy who cried wolf ㅋㅋ

6. [+19, -6] He should leave the group

7. [+22, -3] What a show~!

8. [+18, -1] 40 degree high fever ㅋㅋㅋ Should pull a Shin Jung Hwan and claim he has the Dengue fever ㅋㅋ

9. [+16, -4] He seems fine, recently changed his KakaoTalk profile picture too ㅋㅋ Bye bye Big Bang

10. [+15, -2] They make it seem as if Seungri's the victim in all this ㅋㅋ

11. [+13, -1] Was wondering who wrote this article and it's OSEN ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Who doesn't know that they're under YG???

12. [+12, -2] 40 degrees ㅋㅋㅋㅋ Yeah, sure, whatever

13. [+11, -1] The victim complex is strong in this one


Source: Naver

1. [+2,456, -269] Hard to trust anything YG says...

2. [+2,091, -344] Fever or not, what he did was still unforgivable

3. [+1,860, -236] What a mess... Didn't he say he rested at the hospital

4. [+1,683, -216] As if that's believableㅋㅋㅋㅋ

5. [+1,252, -128] Disgusting how YG tries to control the media like they own it

6. [+320, -30] Why did they write that he suffered an accident when he caused it

7. [+286, -39] Good, didn't want him ruining the closing ceremony anyway

8. [+257, -25] Stop writing that he's a victim ㅡㅡ He caused the accident


TEEN TOP accused of sajaegi?

Article: 2PM Jun. K "Sajaegi? Everybody knows"

Source: Star News via Naver

1. [+10,954, -1,469] There's already been proof that TEEN TOP did sajaegi but it's because TEEN TOP fans kept saying crap to Jun. K in mentions that he tweeted this. TEEN TOP did sajaegi.

2. [+9,152, -907] I doubt anyone from SM, YG, or JYP would do sajaegi knowing the consequences. It's always the mid to smaller sized agencies that do it..

3. [+7,087, -754] Teeeeeeeeeeeennnn Topppppㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

4. [+6,236, -675] Wasn't it TEEN TOP that did it? But there's also talk that they didn't, what's going on?

5. [+6,472, -937] Heard TEEN TOP did sajaegi... whatever the case, 2PM's under JYP so they have no reason to do sajaegi.

6. [+1,557, -262] This isn't the first time TEEN TOP has done it.. Someone needs to uncover the dirt.

7. [+1,506, -282] SHINee, MBLAQ, and 2PM are victims to TEEN TOP's sajaegi. 2PM's under JYP, they have no reason to do sajaegi.

8. [+1,282, -188] TEEN TOP showed the miracle of selling 12,000 copies between 11:30 and 11:40 on Sunday night, just before the charts close ^^ TEEN JAEGI, remember that a boomerang always comes back to you.

9. [+1,309, -236] TEEN TOP is sajaegi!! Jun. K tweeted this because fans tried to dump the sajaegi suspicions on 2PM.

10. [+1,327, -273] TEE JAEGI, this is the third time they've been caught already ㅎㅎ against MBLAQ, SHINee, and now even 2PM.. look at that class


Article: Another controversy fires up... was there sajaegi or not?

Source: OSEN via Naver

1. [+6,201, -576] Tons of album sajaegi going around, TEEN TOP was recently caught too

2. [+3,826, -146] There's always controversies but nothing's ever fixed

3. [+3,625, -183] A few agencies really need to calm it on the sajaegi

4. [+1,364, -91] SISTAR's digital manipulations... They're the worst when it comes to it. There's always suspicions but never evidence when it comes to them.

5. [+1,328, -130] TEEN TOP's most famous for album sajaegi and SISTAR's most famous for digital sajaegi. That's why Starship went under Loen to try and bury their tracks.

6. [+984, -57] Someone needs to do something about SISTAR's digital sajaegi. They've been on a roll with it since joining Loen. When all of the big agencies banded together to investigate sajaegi, they got all nervous until they joined Loen and are doing it straight in our faces now. Soyu's new song is below average but it's been #1 for a while.. and it's not even like they have a big fandom.

7. [+1,125, -199] TEEN TOP apparently has the power to win over MBLAQ, SHINee, and 2PM.. how amazing. Sajaegi has enough power to probably make them beat out EXO and B2ST too as well.

8. [+1,028, -203] Honestly, TEEN TOP couldn't even fill 3,000 seats at the Olympic Hall but they went from 400 copies to 12,000 copies in just a day... I think it's because people are too obsessed with music program wins that some bands resort to sajaegi.

9. [+918, -156] So many idols have become victim to TEEN TOP's sajaegi. MBLAQ, SHINee, and now 2PM.. Who would want to comeback at the same time as TEEN TOP anymore?

10. [+780, -42] Anyone involved in the fandom business probably knows what's going on...