Article: 'Comeback' TVXQ reveals songpyeon pictures for Chuseok
Source: Economy Today via Nate
1. [+143, -62] I'm really genuinely a fan.. but I have to admit.. they are over. TVXQ is not TVXQ without all five members.. Upsetting ㅜㅜ
2. [+93, -23] They were so great when they were five.. They took up such a large part of my school days. It makes me feel bitter to see all this fighting going around and them being hated on.. I just hope that they can go be respected for the different paths they've chosen without being hated on to this point
3. [+111, -58] When I see TVXQ's digital chart rankings, I can't help but think that they're really over now. They're barely ranked in 30th...
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ReplyDeleteAnd I saw comments like ''the kings are back'' cleary I-FANS don't know at all their situation at all in Korea...
ReplyDeleteI feel like once they go to army they are donne for.
Meanwhile Junsu and JaeJoong's song top the charts.
ReplyDeleteI feel bad for these two. Maybe if they weren't on SM they would get more love/chances.
could this have something to do with changmin's comment?
ReplyDeletewhat comment?
ReplyDeleteOver? Go tell that to Japan.
ReplyDelete^ what Changmin said?
ReplyDelete"Meanwhile Junsu and JaeJoong's song top the charts."
ReplyDeleteLmao, of course, of course
Idk about jaejoong since he has nothing out now, but Junsu's OST track did.
DeleteI really didn't want to mention JYJ in TVXQ's releated articles, but seeing as it's you guys who brought them up and that you are apparently misinformed, I will clear up some things.
Delete1. It's truth that DBSK wasn't exactly the best when it came to digital charts, but their songs never flopped and they were insanely good with physical sales. Plus they had the respect and love of the general public because of their talents.
2. TVXQ2's comeback with 'KYHD' did well with physical sales. However, the title single 'KYHD' flopped dramatically with just few days in the online charts. Anyway their second single 'BUG' did better in the online charts.
As for their comeback with this new album, it seems that will have the same fate as their single 'KYHD' if not worst, but the thing that you must be actually worried about is that the physical sales aren't doing that well either. With just around 20K copies sold so far (you can check weibo for this info) in contrast to KYHD that did way better the first week, and now that you compare it with Junsu's album: Tarantallegra sold around 50 copies in the first week only and it's the second best selling record of the year for a solo singer so far.
3. JYJ's 'In Heaven' and 'Get Out' charted decently on the online charts. Both sold more than 'BUG' actually. Also, as you already know, they did pretty well with physical sales.
4. I noticed that most of you guys tend to avoid the fact that JYJ can't appear on TV/Radio music shows to promote their music and this has nothing to do with pity, but it's an ugly reality that JYJ has to face every time they release a new record. It may not affect physical sales, but tv/radio promotions are a key factor when it comes to online sales.
5. Lastly, there's something called "public interest" and "public appreciation". Even though it's difficult for JYJ to even promote their music. They have earned the public's interest and appreciation thanks to their individual talents and activities that thanks God aren't as banned as their group activities.
Well, let's see how do with their new album. As for now, I am glad their are having success with their solo activities.
One more thing: You need to wake up guys and realize that JYJ's success or failure won't make tvxq successful. Why don't you focus on supporting your idols instead of bringing up this ugly comparisons?
DeleteWhere on earth do you get your info from?
Delete1) it's common knowledge that TVXQ weren't that good digitally. You can't argue with charts. Since 2004 they hardly rank well on charts.
2)BUG never did better than KYHD digitally go check melon out gaon. Also according to hanteo Catch Me has sold over 40k copies so far in their first week.
3) Get out our In Heaven didn't fair better than KYHD as KYHD ranked 108 on gaon chart yearly while neither of JYJ's song is there also on melon charts KYHD ranked higher. Hence I don't understand where you're getting your info from.
4) regardless of appearance if an artist releases a song and the public likes it they rank high. Do you know how many non idols that don't appear on TV rank higher than both groups on charts, many.
5) Yes JYJ members have some recognition in other fields but when it comes to their music they are as irrelevant as TVXQ.....
^ This right here
DeleteIf u want 2 make ur side look better at least use real backups like anon 1:53 at least their point has more substance 2 it
I didn't see KYHD charting on the online charts, but maybe you are right in this.
DeleteAs for physical sales. It's screencaps of Hanteo graphs I saw on weibo. (seeing as Hanteo doesn't show the sales other than the 2nd place if you r not a member)
Yes. There r a lot of non-idol singers that chart better than JYJ and better than many other "idol"-singer for the matter, but their music videos can be played on tv and their songs can be streamed on the radio by requests. So, I am referring to opportunities in here.
Who knows, maybe JYJ wouldn't still chart great digitally, but freedom in promotions and equally freedom of opportunities could make a difference in their public approach. JYJ's members are talented and now that they have the opportunity to display their talents being away of SM and its repetitive and un-appealing-to-the-general-public SMP, I believe they could make a difference. But they don't even have the chance.
Well, it's still early to say anything about their music. They released just 1 Korean album after all, and under ugly circumstances in this. Let's see if the situation changes ... Who knows.
I'm talking about Korea :), well at least they have Japan.
ReplyDeletewill japan remember them after they finish with their army service? will the anti-hallyu movement that's started over this whole dokdo mess grow even bigger in 2 years? there's so many things to consider before you can definitely say that they have a permanent career in japan
ReplyDeletebrace yourselves Homin stans are coming.
ReplyDeletearen't you the same person?! For the BigBang articles there would be somebody commenting about "butthurt VIPs are coming" and the previous DBSK article "butthurt fans are coming"
DeleteWe don't need you sarcasm y'know
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ReplyDeleteJapan consider them Jpop literally, and when DB5K first had a lawsuit, DBSK didn't make a japanese comeback for over 2 years? Did bigeast forget about them? No. Pity them? No. Hate on them? No. Some people are just supportive and loyal like that, can't say the same for the rest...
''will japan remember them after they finish with their army service? will the anti-hallyu movement that's started over this whole dokdo mess grow even bigger in 2 years? there's so many things to consider before you can definitely say that they have a permanent career in japan''
ReplyDeleteYeah I know right. They might be big there because they are always releasing something there, but when they go to army, what will happen?
"brace yourselves DBSK stans are coming."
ReplyDeleteAre you expecting vips or sones to come and comment on DBSK articles? Some of you can never get along with logic..
"Japan consider them Jpop literally"
ReplyDeletei didn't know jpop artists could get banned from kohaku, i thought that only applied to all the korean artists
It's sad but it's so true. lol yeah @ anon 9:42. I pity the i-fans that still say that. I mean... you don't even need to read netizen responses to know that TVXQ just aren't at the top anymore. Just looking at the digital music charts is enough.
ReplyDelete"i didn't know jpop artists could get banned from kohaku, i thought that only applied to all the korean artists"
ReplyDeleteThat's why they are not banned.
If it is true that they are going downhill, it would be unfortunate. I think we can all agree that they are talented guys, and I really do like this new album.
ReplyDeletePart of the reason is undeniably the split, and probably also because they just haven't been around much. I know they have to juggle promotions in two countries, but man leaving for a year and a half after you just had a two year hiatus, kpop moves way too fast for that. And considering that they still haven't solidified themselves as a two member group in a lot of people's eyes, maybe they should have focused more on Korea before releasing TONE and going on a Japan Tour.
tarantallegra flopped so hard that junsu told his fans to stop trying.
ReplyDeleteLOL
I'm sure jyj stans will try to act like they are superior
No. Junsu told fans to sto streaming because he couldn't win on music shows since you know...he's cockblocked.
DeleteAlso, JYJ sold more copies of In Heaven in 2 days than TVXQ have sold so far.
Also Junsu ranked better digitally with just the OST track he sang from Nice Guy
So try harder TVXQ Stan.
"It has recently been made public that there will be no inclusion of K-Pop artists in NHK's "Kōhaku Uta Gassen" this year." "With the Takeshima problem looming, there will be an unmistakable pause in the cultural exchange between the two nations. The decision to exclude K-Pop from Kōhaku Uta Gassen holds strong meaning."
ReplyDeletehttp://www.cyzo.com/2012/09/post_11543.html
at the end of the day, tvxq is just another korean group promoting in japan and will probably sell as much as boa does in about 2 years
well at least boa was more than a one hit wonder to the public
Is this post gonna be another war between DBSK and JYJ fans? Can we just seriously discuss this without snipping at each other?
ReplyDeleteI think the difference is that Korean fans know all the info and they can form an idea of the situation and come on u don't have to be Einstein to figure out that jyj r in the right regarding the lawsuit shit even if u hate them.
ReplyDeletewhile in Japan after 2010 Internet article and blogs regarding jyj situation where deleted an only things that painted them in a negative light was allowed just go check the twits of aves CEO badmouthing jyj and that nasty book about them. And bigeast r very loyal. Not only have thy waited for homin for 2 years but they also fly to jyj fanmeeting and exhibitions and such.
@Anon 9:43
ReplyDeleteSorry but JYJ flop as hard as TVXQ digitally only when they sing osts for popular dramas that their song ranks high (for 4 days max)their own releases are considered flops....
Even if they are the same digitally, JYJ does better physically.
DeleteAlso JYJ just does better in pretty much every venue- endorsements, dramas, musicals, etc.
I checked charts and TVXQ's KYHD was #3 in yearly sales and JYJ's in heaven was #4 on gaon so yeah they are both basically equal digitally and physically.... I don't follow any of the groups closely to know of their endorsement but i'm berry sure they both have and yes JYJ members have somewhat good rating dramas but overall they are almost on the same playing field....
DeleteJYJ were #4 on Hanteo while TVXQ were #5, so still close.
DeleteHowever you have to take into consideration this was "yearly" sales, not overall sales. So it was sales made in 2011 as a whole.
KYHD was released in January 2011 whole In Heaven was released in September 2011, so TVXQ had a whole 9 months more to sell.
Plus JYJ only had 4 months of sales total counting towards yearly sales.
Also you think JYJ and TVXQ are on the same playing field in Korea? Okay, you keep reading the articles SM and CTVXQ feed you and believe that.
ouch truth hurts....
ReplyDeletebut seriously, just because their fame is over, doesn't mean they're less awesome. if i were to like someone, i don't really care whether that person is famous or not. all that matter is i like them. jyj or homin stans should stop bickering each other and boasting about their (old) popularity to newer fans, when clearly they aren't as popular as before. are you going to dislike them now that they're not popular???? there'll be a day when bigbang will be less popular, like any other group, like any other singer. are you really ashamed to like someone who is less popular?
"That's why they are not banned."
ReplyDeleteThis article specifically states that people got mad at KARA, SNSD and TVXQ for being in the last Kohaku so they decided to not include Korean artists this time. So yeah, Japan considers them to be a Korean group (which, why wouldn't they? They are a group of Koreans from Korea who still release albums in Korea) and yes, they are banned.
http://www.cyzo.com/2012/09/post_11543.html
Junsu's ost song is dropping like a rock. It's already in the 40's on some charts
ReplyDeleteAnd? It's an OST track. Can't expect it to stay on top for a long period.
DeleteThe fact that Junsu's OST song peaked higher and is now in the same ranks as the songs from TVXQ's comeback album after nearly 2 years is really sad for TVXQ.
Wow that bad. I hope it picks up after they start promoting in variety shows.
ReplyDeleteAnd come on stop comparing dbsk with dbsk. Jyj can't promot music on tv why make homin so called victory look so pathetic And I agree with the comments dbsk is not dbsk without the members so I don't get "protecting the name" thing I get it as "protecting sm ass and in return our ass" if he said it like that I might have understood their point of views and respected their decisions
But good luck
^^ K-pop will always be about sales and popularity to some extent. That's why they have weekly shows where there are winners based on sales. I would hope that fans would stick with them even if they aren't as popular anymore. If not, what the hell are you a fan of?
ReplyDelete^ agree. but i'm just disappointed with fans who still trying to look they did well when their artists themselves probably have realized that they aren't at their peak anymore. what's so hard admitting your bias isn't that popular anymore? even between new kpop i-fans, neither tvxq nor jyj popular anymore. kdrama i-fans are different, i guess.
ReplyDeleteanyway, junsu's is still in top 20 in instiz chart(combined charts).
korean netizens say that dbsk is over, and ifans who get fed articles from sme and avex run in here to argue about it
ReplyDeletewith a side helping of jyj stans saying "well at least my oppas are still doing well" when they can't even promote on tv and their fandom is dwindling because of all the infighting
jyj and homin make terrible music. they need to get back together
ReplyDeleteAll groups have an expiry date, unfortunately for TVXQ it's now, but they should be proud of what they have achieved in that time.
ReplyDeleteThis definitely shows that the I-fan perspective on things is skewed as fuck. So many fans respect TVXQ a lot (as they should) and so they call them the biggest boy group in Korea after BB. This I never understood. They're pretty loved internationally, but it seems like K-public doesn't really give them much thought. They're best in Japan I think. Appreciated there as well (well, before the anti-hallyu feelings blew up to this extent).
ReplyDeleteAnd LOL JYJ fans are coming out bragging about how they're so damn popular compared to TVXQ. LOL. Considering the fact that they've more than half of the fandom after the break up, JYJ is not doing so well. And if you add in the constant emotional blackmail JYJ puts their fans through, its pretty sad they're not doing better. Deluding the rest of the OT5s (and JYJ stans) into believing a reunion is possible, that they've been so terribly wronged, that they're barely hanging on, that they're suffering so damn much all the time, blah blah blah Smh. One reason why I'm supporting TVXQ in this is because Homin have their heads on straight and haven't particpated in trash talking the other party involved.
this tbh
Deletepeople should read this comment cause it's all true
This so much.....
DeleteAll that sympathy crap JYJ has been trying to pull has not phased me at all, not even a tiny bit......it easily works on their fans but as someone who isn't a fan of either parties, it can't work.....at least homin are keeping it clean & dramatic free....
Okay. Your oppas can stay bland and vanilla boring all the way to obscurity. (they'll be there soon enough unless the just permanently move to Japan). My "whining and lame" oppas will just continue to have successful solo projects and make bank!
DeleteAnd yes, JYJ is doing extremely well. Yoochun and Jaejoong have over 10 acting awards between them which they amassed in only 2 years and Junsu is one of the only idols to ever win awards at the Korean Musical Awards.
The only thing that's bland and boring are JYJ's basic, amatuerish and poorly produced songs. Aside from In Heaven (the song) the entire album was crap. But hey, their stans will go around preaching how they're totally true artists now. Psh. I'll take my bought European dance tracks over trash anyday. Even JYJ's best songs can barely hold up to HoMin's more average tracks.
DeleteAs the poster said, seeing as how JYJ got most of the original DB5K fandom they should be doing a lot better album wise and digitally.
DBSK never was good at digital sales, not even when they were 5, even Yunho and Changmin did better with KYHD and Catch Me.
ReplyDeleteThey are selling better than last year after nearly 2 years of not being around.
They are having new fans that love them for what they are now.
Bigeast adores them, they just had a breaking record concert with 500,000 audience and sales for 100 million USD, a successful and massive fanmeeting.
They are releasing solid albums full of good songs not just a few good songs with a lot of fillers like in the past.
It's sad that people doesn't want to see it, I can understand the bitter JYJ stans and their twisted sense of justice, they want to see the boys doing bad to make JYJ look better and to make themselves feel better.
But the famous OT5 stans?
Stop living in the past, they are not coming back together and time doesn't stop, why not enjoy what we have now?
it's cute how most of the homin fans are ignoring the point of this article and its replies and clinging to their japanese fanbase and what jyj has or hasn't done
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LOL another TVXQ fan believing all the articles that SM put outs. You do know SM fabricates numbers in pretty much every single one of their articles, right? All their SMTown numbers are fabricated.
The last one they said that their Jakarta SMTown sold 50,000 when the people who were actually there said that there were around 15,000.
If you really want to see how well your TVXQ oppas do in Korea during concerts or shows were people actually have to pay to see them, please watch this video. FanVideos, after all, can't be manipulated by companies to add crowds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PEGhdbAwyk
When JYJ's company fabricated sales numbers for their album and were putting it on every media outlet...did you believe them?
DeleteSME haters are just the best tho that much I would say to your claims....lol
No. I know that was hype. Their actual total sales from Gaon and Hanteo were great, though.
DeleteI'm saying that every company does fabricate numbers, so using numbers written in articles that were obviously created by SM is not a valid argument.
Use actual tangible things. Actual album sales, awards won, ratings for dramas, number of endorsements, and things like the fancam I posted which shows actual crowds, not fabricated numbers written in an article.
Lol, they were never good with digital sales though. Not even as 5, so I don't see how that point is relevant. But yeah, I agree. They are still doing pretty well all things considered. They haven't started promoting the song yet, but yeah. I like their songs though. And stans should stop, because both these guys and JYJ are has beens.
ReplyDeleteExcept JYJ have good careers as actors or musical actors laid out before them.
DeleteThat's the key here. You have to diversify. No one wants to see people do the same thing for a decade. And for nearly a decade TVXQ has been putting out one crappy SMP dance title track after another.
It just gets boring after awhile.
I think that the two year break they had after the break up did some more damage. While JYJ was busy with a World Tour, English releases and miscellaneous things keeping themselves a bit more relevant, TVXQ was there sitting quietly out of the public spotlight. :/
ReplyDeleteDBSK were never THAT popular to begin with.
ReplyDeleteI'm not hating on DBSK. I think they're very talented but the songs they released in Korea were terrible.
They debuted with the song Hug when I was in middle school (I'm korean) I remember the song was a hit because of the cheesy lyrics but that was it. Hug and Mirotic are their only hit songs.
No one really cared about DBSK so they went to Japan. After they gained popularity there people in the ent industry started to talk like they were huge stars thanks to SM's media play.
Maybe they were huge in Japan but they weren't in Korea. They should've just sung ballad in Korea too instead of those crappy dance songs.
I actually thought the same thing cos I went through melon chart to see their previous rankings and they really didn't have anything big except hug but mirotic didn't do that well digitally but it was poplar and their album sold very well....they were hyped up by their Japan success hence when I see them on digital charts i'm not surprised at their rankings
DeleteI think they would do better if they didn't call themselves TVXQ. Their new song is pretty good actually, but people won't notice that and will keep on comparing them to DB5K, and of course they are not on par. And I thought they never did well with digital sales?
ReplyDeleteWhy are we arguing about how relevant/irrelevant TVXQ are when the netizen comments on this article make it very clear what the majority of general netizens think.
ReplyDeleteThese are the top rated comments, after all, the ones that out of all the comments on the post the most people agreed with.
Unless you are a Korean living in Korea, I don't think your opinion on what the matter or what you actually think is happening is going to hold any weight to the opinions of the people actually living there and seeing how much relevancy someone has.
Homin and JYJ didn't make great music after they separated.....and from the HoMin side looks like they are mad to JYJ to sue SM, as same as Boa and some others artist from SM...I don't think they can go back as 5 anymore..
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Lol, you can't be serious and believe that this is an accurate measure of what the general public in Korea thinks. If you take all the top comments seriously, then Crayon is a shitty song that no one can listen to, it's awful, etc, yet it's topping charts. This does not reflect what EVERYONE thinks. If you know Korean and read the replies to the top comments, a lot of people disagree and those replies have many positive votes too.
People need to read the comments again and realize what this article is all about.
ReplyDeleteIt talks about how TVXQ are not popular anymore in KOREA. It doesn't matter if you love them to death or not when you don't even live in the country where this article is coming from.
People take this site and this article too seriously. Of course they are not that relevant in Korea, but a lot of people in the article itself are disagreeing with the top comments too. It's not like it's consensus or something. Also, this site posted this article
ReplyDelete"Unfortunately for our country, hateful replies start to get interpreted as public sentiment. Someone with a few hateful replies can be branded as 'unliked by the public' and articles will soon come out about them being on the chopping block."
So yes, don't take netizens comments too much to heart.
awww ... the poor tvxq leftovers .
ReplyDeletejust stay in Japan and live off the "name" while you stil can .
Why so serious defending TVXQ and JYJ oppar?. Both have made awful music. They're not worth it. Please don't hit me, Yoochun.
ReplyDeleteTVXQ were never that big in Korea, maybe compared to other idol groups but in general no.
ReplyDeleteBig bang is more popular and are the kings of Kpop.
btw, JYJ is doing really well.
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"LOL another TVXQ fan believing all the articles that SM put outs. You do know SM fabricates numbers in pretty much every single one of their articles, right? All their SMTown numbers are fabricated.
The last one they said that their Jakarta SMTown sold 50,000 when the people who were actually there said that there were around 15,000. "
i was there, and i could say people who said there were only around 15,000 must have a eye problem..
"Lol, you can't be serious and believe that this is an accurate measure of what the general public in Korea thinks. If you take all the top comments seriously, then Crayon is a shitty song that no one can listen to, it's awful, etc, yet it's topping charts. This does not reflect what EVERYONE thinks. If you know Korean and read the replies to the top comments, a lot of people disagree and those replies have many positive votes too."
ReplyDeleteagree with this. read the other comments on the best replies comment... not everyone agreeing with the top rated comment...
for me, they're doing their best to keep TVXQ name alive. at least new fans are coming to see them. if before, in the fandom has more fangirls than fanboys, now fanboys are attracted to them.
I'm just glad that SM decided to just keep them as TVXQ. even if they have been doing SMP 'crap' for almost a decade, to me this what shows that it's SM. I'm sorry but I really cant find any of stage presence that TVXQ has provide in any rookies male groups. what SM has provide since H.O.T time, only TVXQ can still deliver it. maybe others may find it boring but to the avid fans of SMP, we still love it.
music trends may change but the elements of the original still there. thus, that's why I'm still supporting TVXQ just like how I first knew them. I love them because they provide the SMP style that I like. it's all about preference. I do agree that they're different when they're not as 5. reality speaks different but they're doing their best thus I appreciate it so much.
Many people (obvious only homin fans) praise them for keeping the TVXQ name alive, but i think if you can't remain the awesomeness the band use to be in the past, it's called 'ruin' more than 'keep' it. :P
ReplyDeletethem jyj stan comments.
ReplyDeleteok why in every tvxq article there is fanwar ... i m not taking sides but some are really annoying if you see the comment .. jyj thing starts when as anon commented "Meanwhile Junsu and JaeJoong's song top the charts." and tvxq fan is like of course and started comparing .. will people stop that as a fan of 5 i love what they are doing there popularity slowly goes down it will happen and I am happy to know that they are still there for there fan making good music... to tvxq stan every haters are not jyj fan.
ReplyDeletekorea has it's bitter OT5 fans too i guess lol
ReplyDeleteDBSk never did well digitally EVER. i don't see why would anyone be surprised about them ranking low, catch me actually sold more than kyhd in it's first week and they havent started promoting yet.
As long as their albums are good, honestly i don't care much about the general opinion, they are not a rookie group anymore they don't need it to make a living.
That comment that stated Big Bang are the biggest boy group in Korea had me lol'ing. I could have sworn that title was claimed by DB5K years ago with 800k fans in their official fan club, not to mention how large their Japanese fan club Bigeast is. But Big Bang are still together so it is very likely that eventually they will become the biggest boy group in Korea.
ReplyDeleteWell that commentator also strung together a load of other bs about JYJ emotionally blackmailing their fans and that JYJ trash talk about Homin and SM so we really can't take much of what they said as concrete facts. If you want to talk about trash talking let's look at Changmin's recent comment about how he feels about JYJ, this is a man who is a master at making hateful comments about JYJ. Just when I thought I could forget about how dirty and low Homin are and just forgive, something comes up reminding me why I shouldn't. People like to say JYJ fans are bitter, maybe we are.
Good luck to TVXQ's career. I sincerely hope they do well on their comeback seeing as they have the privilege of promoting their shit.
You are without doubt fucking delusional if you say that BB is not the biggest boy group in Korea. The ONLY group that makes more than them is SNSD and it's not by a large margin.
DeleteFor their ginormous Korean fanclub they sell like shit - only a quarter buys their albums? Bigeast are flawless so plz go to Japan and make lots of money.
DB5K was never that popular to the general public, so please don't look back at things front rose colored glasses. They're appreciated and respected or their efforts in Japan and that's really it. A big fanbase is not always general public love.
Just forgive? Considering the fact they were blindsided and that JYJ took over half their fanclub when they left and have thrown pity parties for themselves for a long time after gaining more sympathy from fans, I don't expect HoMin to forgive greedy bitches.
Again "this" fanwar ....
ReplyDelete"LOL another TVXQ fan believing all the articles that SM put outs. You do know SM fabricates numbers in pretty much every single one of their articles, right? All their SMTown numbers are fabricated.
ReplyDeleteThe last one they said that their Jakarta SMTown sold 50,000 when the people who were actually there said that there were around 15,000."
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i was there, and i could say people who said there were only around 15,000 must have eye problem..
the promoter announced they'd sell 40,000++ tixs, and from what i know almost all section were sold out except VIP..
"let's look at Changmin's recent comment about how he feels about JYJ, this is a man who is a master at making hateful comments about JYJ. Just when I thought I could forget about how dirty and low Homin are and just forgive, something comes up reminding me why I shouldn't. People like to say JYJ fans are bitter, maybe we are. "
ReplyDeletewell here's a prime example of a dumb stan who doesn't filter shit. there was NO EVIDENCE of changmin saying anything against them, dumbass. in fact i think he barely cares about them anymore.
For the #1 comment in this article.... and whose fault is that? JYJ and their greedy money grubbing ways of course. Anyway internationally DBSK are way more popular. Just look at their facebook likes VS JYJ.
ReplyDeleteDBSK was never good digitally, even when they were five. Sexy Love has been on the top charts and does that indicate that T-ARA are super popular? No way, they're practically the most hated band in korea now. So that #3 commenter (a JYJ stan i bet) can shut his/her trap.
ReplyDeleteI don't get why this site translates all the negative comments. I've seen articles on DBSK which top rated comments are positive ones. Really makes me wonder about the translator's agenda.
"Also, JYJ sold more copies of In Heaven in 2 days than TVXQ have sold so far."
ReplyDeleteToo bad, In Heaven sold way less than KYHD. Try harder, JYJ stan.
http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LS2D&mid=sec&sid1=106&sid2=224&oid=038&aid=0002305163&viewType=pc
ReplyDeleteAn example of positive comments. Will netizenbuzz translate this? Not to be rude but all I've seen you translate are the negative ones.
I just have to blame JYJ for all of this. If they weren't so greedy. Oh well. Greed is a human quality.
ReplyDeleteNetizenbuzz translates comments from POPULAR articles unless reader requested. So expecting the site admins to translate all positive comments regardless of how basic an article is without you actually requesting it is straight up stupid.
ReplyDeleteok i found sth new today ...
ReplyDeletetvxq stans mind:"every haters are jyj stans" ... hul... only one word comes to describe them "IDIOTS"..
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ReplyDeleteAnon October 1, 2012 7:00 AM
its written in 2 days dumbass .. can't you read.
why every tvxq article should have jyj in it and even if they have why can't tvxq stans just ignore that comment and write sth good about them(tvxq) ... just writing the same old things .. many just mention jyj to start a fanwar so ignore it .. stans always try to prove that they are the best making other look bad but the opposite is happening ..
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stop it, you both. none of your oppas triumph #1 in weekly digital chart.
tvxq stans vs jyj stans... how lovely. Grow up, go outside and do something productive.
ReplyDeleteFacebook likes for TVXQ come from TVXQ's network of SM artists and their fans. People who love SM as a company and support their artists as opposed to fans who will actually purchase albums. If they're really that popular, why are their articles not often ranked at the top of Nate and why are their Korean album sales so poor?
ReplyDeleteAnd those who are trying to add Japan to the equation: This site is about K-netizens. But if you insist, I'll have to say that TVXQ is doing poorly in Japan in comparison to their former potential. Super Junior's latest Japan single sold as much as TVXQ's latest single but Super Junior did not slave away years in Japan to build up their name and fandom. So are TVXQ selling well in Japan? Yes. But is their success exceptional? Absolutely not. Their popularity trajectory has had the least increase when you compare it to Super Junior and SNSD.
http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.nl/2012/09/why-does-korea-interpret-netizen.html read this and shut up
ReplyDeleteI don't care about all those rankings :) I like their new album =)Very nice music and really good singing :)Boys are talented :)
ReplyDeleteYou two have grown older, but don't forget the tale " The Emperor's new clothing".
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