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Tuesday, June 25, 2013

Celebrity soldiers spotted hanging out at adult entertainment establishments


Article: 'On Scene 21' reports on a celebrity soldier making rounds at adult entertainment resorts 'the reality of their service'

Source:
Mydaily via Nate

1. [+666, -7] Screw this celebrity soldier bull and just send them all to the front lines. Since when did being a celebrity become a perk? ㅋㅋㅋ

2. [+599, -7] Seriously, make sure that every single one of them pays the consequence ㅡㅡ There are so many men who don't say a word as they put their lives on the line for their country... this makes me boil over in anger. To have to see an article like this on 6.25, are you serious?

3. [+575, -7] They should release the identities of all of them

4. [+54, -3] The military sent Leeteuk and Rain on a trip to America a couple months ago, too...

5. [+49, -0] What's so special about being a celebrity that even the country wants to protect them like this? They're just one out of the many careers that exist in this world... Does our country think that thousands of our men enjoy putting their lives on hold to suffer in the army? Sending a word of support out there to all of my juniors protecting our country today... the 63rd anniversary of 6.25.

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309 comments:

  1. 6/25/1950 The beginning of the Korean War.
    6/25/2013 Celeb soldiers banging wh***s.

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  2. MentallyConfusedJune 25, 2013 at 1:05 AM

    4. [+54, -3] The military sent Leeteuk and Rain on a trip to America a couple months ago, too..



    Is this true???



    B/c if I were to serve in the military I would be extremely pissed off that just b/c they are "celebrities" they get to have a break while I put my life in danger to serve in the military...I could see why netizen would hate on celebrity soldiers...they get special treatment...sigh just unfair to everyone who serves the military...

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  3. yes i think there's an NB article on it too...he went for a Korea thing at the white house or something

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  4. what's the point crying and saying goodbye before enlist if all you did is hang out with your friends, there's no difference with your daily life

    geez
    serve your country right
    i think i would be proud if i could get chance to serve my country
    but why'd they just hang out everytime?!
    it's not what your country could gives you but what you could do for your country

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  5. I can guarantee you they were banging hookers in 1950, too.

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  6. It was for the World Peace Arirang Festival at Washington DC. It was at the same time the S.Korean president made a visit there.

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  7. waytopointouttheobviousJune 25, 2013 at 1:09 AM

    leeteuk went too? i thought it was just rain

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  8. Leeteuk came to the US? When and for what? Tumblr iELFs would have spammed this like heck.

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  9. I think it was just Rain. I am not sure about Leeteuk

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  10. 5. [+49, -0] What's so special about being a celebrity that even the country wants to protect them like this? They're just one out of the many careers that exist in this world... Does our country think that thousands of our men enjoy putting their lives on hold to suffer in the army? Sending a word of support out there to all of my juniors protecting our country today... the 63rd anniversary of 6.25.



    Pretty much this. If my country had people doing this despite the mandatory enlistment, they would get blacklisted quickly

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  11. Just Rain and Sangchu.

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  12. You don't know about military until you served.

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  13. Rolling my eyes at "the front lines"... When was the last time a South Korean soldier actually shot anybody?

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  14. MentallyConfusedJune 25, 2013 at 1:11 AM

    Oh really??? What for though? did they just go there to represent Korea or something...wow now i could clearly why they really hate on celebrity soldiers...they get a lot of advantages when they barely go through everything a real solider goes through...

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  15. Maybe it was their free day or something?Nevertheless,I do acknowledge how this whole thing looks and it is unfair to all the other soldiers who are like 7-8 years younger than them too since they people don't enlist that late.The thing is,celebrities have it easy because those above them in the army know they're softies and aren't expected to fight in war anyway,lol.Not all of them are like this but most definitely are.Then,there's the influence.A free ticket here,a free ticket there,maybe some cash to let them go out for a night.Things that the average soldier would not afford and also would not do.

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  16. MentallyConfusedJune 25, 2013 at 1:12 AM

    Oh really! thank you!

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  17. It's the whole system that is at fault. The way the government gives these brand of soldiers more perks over others was obviously going to create resentment from current and past soldiers. Idiots, tbh.

    And any future celebrity going into the army who still wants to be a "celebrity" soldier nowadays has to be wacked in the head for still wanting to have that title. The favoritism really is disgusting.


    And, that celebrity at the club better not be seven!

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  18. "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." - John F. Kennedy

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  19. MentallyConfusedJune 25, 2013 at 1:13 AM

    Very well said by JFK!

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  20. i think SK gov should made more strict rules about celebrity who enlist (or better should be no "celebrity soldier"), this kind of news only embarrasses the country

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  21. They were on the front line so they get a pass.

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  22. Just shut up, Jenny!

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  23. The most blame should be to the officials/the bosses of these soldiers. Like if they actually deny the celebs special privilege, then what would the celebs do? Oh right, nothing. Celebrity soldiers can't go on unnecessary vacation if they're not granted it, I don't understand how they're getting the special privilege.

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  24. do you know who is this celebrity soldier?

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  25. They are supposed to be serving their country not their penises.

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  26. why need to shoot anyone when there has been no war in years? I rather have "the last time" to be super long time ago (b/c it means Korea has no war) than to have it more currently.

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  27. Wtf are these guys doing????

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  28. Could we stop calling them soldiers already??? Its a insult to the REAL korean men who are taking their duties seriously.

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  29. Technically SK and NK are still at war. The Korean War didn't officially end.

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  30. amaya aguero monzonJune 25, 2013 at 1:19 AM

    They should be asking that question to the government "why does celebrity soldiers exist ? instead of just bashing those guys ! Who would choose to go to the front line if they can avoid it (i'm not saying they should be excused either)

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  31. Men will be men....

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  32. what the hell are they supposed to do during their free time?
    they are literally doing nothing in the military they were probably bored and decided to go

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  33. My point is that netizens are getting butthurt over celebrity soldiers when the "regular" soldiers aren't exactly in any immediate danger of of dying unless they fall out of their bunks and hit their heads wrong. There are wars going on all over the globe, my own country is probably fighting half of them, and these goofball netizens are griping because these flower boy idols aren't being thrown out of airplanes or something.

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  34. 4. [+54, -3] The military sent Leeteuk and Rain on a trip to America a couple months ago, too..

    at least Leeteuk go on active duty.

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  35. lol wtf..i think u the one that should shut up

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  36. LOL Leeteuk didn't go to America. It was Sangchu not him.

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  37. lol, you okay bro?

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  38. He didn't, it was Sangchu who went with Rain as Korean Army representatives for an event at the White House.

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  39. Well the reality is when you famous you got "special" treatment it always happen everywhere not a shock to me

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  40. Celebrity soldiers should serve twice or even 3x longer than a regular soldier... >_____> ...and I'm just being nice for saying this...


    If the government is really serious about men doing mandatory service... they would get rid of the status of "celebrity soldier".

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  41. This could be a reality show you know
    Real man: Celebrity Soldier edition

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  42. Just curious, are celebrity soldiers part of the same unit? Like is there a squadron that only celebrities can be assigned to? Or is it that celebrities get assigned to different units but just get special privileges?

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  43. 4. [+54, -3] The military sent Leeteuk and Rain on a trip to America a couple months ago, too...

    As an ELF who keeps on track with Super Junior daily, I don't know nor heard anything regarding this.

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  44. I'm confused, so soldiers aren't supposed to go to these types of places or is it just celebrity soldiers? (Not trying to be a smartass just confused)

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  45. @Jenny Since you are a mod. I'm sure you have seen this troll posting all over this site starting unnecessary drama, spamming and trolling.. If i was you i would definitely ban them.

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  46. You sound like an insensitive, pompous foreigner. Please just stop talking already and go do some research.

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  47. Anyone know who they are?

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  48. ofc no, real soldiers cant even visit their family ..

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  49. Not the point...June 25, 2013 at 1:36 AM

    From what I know...normal soldiers don't nearly get as much "vacation time" as celebrity soldiers.

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  50. Yeah. Family/friends can visit them at the campus but not the other way around. ):

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  51. Ok good. Leeteuk has enough problems on his plate so I hope some Knetizen correct that commenter so the rumor wont get too big.

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  52. I believe that South Korea has deployed units overseas to Afghanistan and Iraq to support the US, so yes some of them do fight in the front lines

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  53. I Speak The Truth!June 25, 2013 at 1:39 AM

    4. [+54, -3] The military sent Leeteuk and Rain on a trip to America a couple months ago, too...





    Hey knet and those who upvoted these particular should do their own research properly!
    You only comes out stupid!..Leeteuk didn't went to America...

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  54. Or just let us laugh at his posts....

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  55. Yeah all of the d american soldiers were doing that and had korean children out of wedlock with korean women who were most likely left at korean ophranges. all of the half korean children were left starve btw

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  56. -1 for defending shitteuk

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  57. thanks for the info! I thought they were in threaten of a war because I remember North Korea threatening to attack South Korea several months ago.

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  58. it's not funny, at all.

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  59. I Speak The Truth!June 25, 2013 at 1:42 AM

    What's wrong with telling the truth and asking people to do their research properly?! Leeteuk never went to America...I'm just telling them this coz they sounded stupid and ignorant..

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  60. It is so unfair to see these mofos partying around when the other regular soldiers are working their asses off training and actually being useful. kpop_fag does not aprove -1

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  61. If it gets to big SM or the military could easily fix it with a statement of "He never went, it was another soldier" and from memory there are pictures that prove it. Leeteuk has been serving rather quietly so far so I don't see why Knetz still have such an issue with him.

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  62. He's going all ad hominem, it is pretty funny cause he has nothing better to say. It shows a pathetic person.

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  63. Um, they must have forgotten about the DMZ.

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  64. I hope their identities get revealed soon.

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  65. Maybe, Idk, train and do their duty properly? Maybe properly serve their country?

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  66. if you find that type of behavior funny then okay.

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  67. It's not just a matter of how much "danger" they're exposed to, but the seemingly large discrepancy in the quality of their lives during their times as soldiers. A regular soldier could never even dream of getting as many breaks that celebrity soldiers get, whether it is being exempt from parts of training/patrolling to go practice for some military radio/tv production, regularly being granted leaves to go perform in public (and apparently being pampered and given loads of free time while doing so) and traveling to foreign places as "ambassadors." Given that the vast majority of Korean males served as regular soldiers, it's not hard to see why there is so much disdain for celebrity soldiers.

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  68. She's too busy posting comment. Lazy mod

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  69. I mean he's just being an accusatory poster. He's not resorting to swears, just used a fairly pathetic lexicon and tactics for someone trying to troll. He's not hurting anyone, nor is he really even offending anyone. Just making them laugh at his own lack of creativity.

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  70. Wow. So that person from the Korean site just brought Leetuek in without knowing the facts? Just getting uninformed people to hate on him even more (if that's even possible :/). Thanks for the info!

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  71. ifvtheyre not going to show their faces then i dont want to know more about this lol now seriously.. the whole system is at fault fr creating this label instead of treating them just like veryone else.. since soldiers that are celebs brinng money, they pretty much letheir agencies do what they wnt

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  72. OK, here you go... a list of oveseas deployments of the South Koorean armed forces. The last time these guys saw any serious action was the Vietnam War, which ended in 1973. Not exactly the stuff of legend, is it?

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  73. Oh, okay. I thought it was a morality type thing. That makes more sense.

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  74. See my reply to kpoptwerkteam... Korean troops were "in the rear with the gear" in both Afghanistan AND Iraq. They only had ONE casualty in those two wars. They probably never left their ships/tents/hotel rooms.

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  75. No prob. :) Actually since you mentioned that, I know quite a few news outlets laughed at NK for that since NK and SK are still at war but NK threatened to sign a declaration of war again.../sigh.

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  76. Not the point...June 25, 2013 at 1:59 AM

    Yup...stalemate for...is it 60 years now?? Korean war ended in 53' right?

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  77. Not the point...June 25, 2013 at 2:01 AM

    Yeah...they've (NK) been trying to get out of their peace agreement for years now...hence some of the violent incidents/threats that have occurred recently.

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  78. Yep. Damn...60 years. :/ I wonder if they can peacefully end the war without a huge falling out occurring...we'll just have to see.

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  79. wait they were at whore houses? seriously? and the military is allowing this? why are the blaming the celebrities then? got after the right people for one netizen!

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  80. Not the point...June 25, 2013 at 2:29 AM

    Yoo Seung Ho too.

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  81. Exactly. Man, if SK and NK end up fighting again to reach peace...I'm sure it'd turn into another world war. :( I can almost guarantee if they end up fighting, it won't just be those two countries but many others as well.

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  82. "Why do you think these mandatory service are still in place?" forgot to answer your question...I've read a lot about the tension between NK and SK and how a war can break out at any moment...didn't know they are still at war.

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  83. "all of the american soldiers"

    Errr...no. A good number of troops likely didn't even have time for this, especially those who were in combat units that were deployed out at the front for extended periods of time.

    What you say likely applies more to troops assigned to the rear.

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  84. So a celebrity soldier went to an adult entertainment resort? So something like room salons?

    I really don't understand why these celebrities use their power to do whatever the hell they want. I wonder what they had to bribe the officials above them with? I need names of those celebrities so I can stop supporting them.

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  85. Yep. Also that question was meant to be rhetorical so you didn't need to answer it. XD My bad.

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  86. Not the point...June 25, 2013 at 2:31 AM

    I think it was cause' he "was making a big fuss" over his enlistment (which was even BEFORE) he served.

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  87. NK has been pissing off a lot of countries, and their neighbors the most. Japan isn't liking their threats and China is getting pretty tired of them as well as most of SE Asia. :/

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  88. Yup. Although that remains to be seen since he hasn't completed his service yet.


    He seems like a smart kid. I probably fall over in surprise if he chickened out and chose to take the perks.

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  89. I wonder if the regular citizens from both sides want the war or is it just the higher ranked people who have the tension between them. I think when a war occurs, usually the poorer regular citizens suffer the most/get the most damages.

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  90. If he's been quiet, then it's likely good news - it means he's more busy doing his duty (being in reconnaissance, he's probably a lot busier than even the average grunts, as these guys are practically on a level between infantry and special forces).

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  91. You can't bang a hooker while being on the frontline. That 's a bit illogical - no sane soldier would want to do that if he's in a combat zone with the enemy positioned not too far from where he is.

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  92. If you're going to post an article like this, name the celebrity.

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  93. Not the point...June 25, 2013 at 2:38 AM

    Yeah, cause' no one wants to fight. Especially when everyone is worried about recovering the economy, possible flu outbreaks (China had a birdflu case recently, I think), dealing with natural disasters (Japan is still recovering...). Not to mention, all the other things like territory disputes, poverty, corruption. Too much to handle...no one (besides NK) wants a war.

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  94. As if they'd even fight. The ones who have been discharged would probably be all on chartered flights out of S. Korea at the first sign of real trouble.

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  95. I don't know, since I don't live in either. But I remember an article here once that regular SK citizens (or at least the Knets that bothered to comment) generally didn't pay mind to Kim Jong Un's threats...here's the article: http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2013/03/north-korea-says-to-enter-state-of-war.html

    Other than that, I honestly can't say much since I'm an outsider. But yeah, the poor everywhere always suffers the most in all situations. :(

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  96. rather than celebrity soldiers why don't the make a point about all the people getting exempt from the military including a lot of their politicians who did not serve yet are still perfectly able to f*ck people over

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  97. Not the point...June 25, 2013 at 2:40 AM

    Agreed. Any soldier who was having sex with some prostitutes/hookers were probably the troops covering the rear end of the army.

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  98. @no.1 A long time ago

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  99. Not the point...June 25, 2013 at 2:42 AM

    That'd be so sad...actually...no nationalistic pride and courage to help prevent another country from taking over your own...you basically sit and watch as your country and some of its people fall.

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  100. I agree, but they probably won't because the companies might sue or something.


    But Netizens are like ninjas... I wonder if they've figured out who they were just from their silhouettes...

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  101. Exactly and also NK's trigger-happy attitude isn't exactly calming all the tensions. :/ Honestly I'd be really scared if anything like that happened and I don't even live in that region.

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  102. Not the point...June 25, 2013 at 2:45 AM

    It would be scary if anything did happen. Especially if you were close to the border.



    Imagine, your father or brothers, uncles, cousins being conscripted...listening to the radio for bomb warnings, hiding underground, living in fear, not knowing whether you'll survive today, etc.

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  103. hehehehe...my bad..just want to answer that question in order to explain my thoughts clearer to you guys. I enjoy the conversation/discussion with you guys.

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  104. I think the best solution is give perks and extra days of leave based on how much each soldier achieves individually and in group work - which in any case, celeb 'soldiers' haven't done any of such plus what they do isn't even needed to run a national military. It also would help if regular troops were also given a bigger allowance too.



    For example, my dad got the unofficial position from his company commander of being his unit's Taekwondo instructor where rivalling units within the regiment would hold such competitions - the officer in charge actually gave him extra days of leave for doing a good job (aside from winning matches, it also meant he taught 100+ guys extra melee fighting techniques).


    That aside, it's still intolerable for these celeb 'soldiers' to get more leaves - plus if they had a conscience like Hyun Bin did, they wouldn't take more leaves than the average soldier, airman, sailor and marine.

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  105. Not the point...June 25, 2013 at 2:49 AM

    That's the thing...most K-soldiers don't get nearly as much free time as celeb k-soldiers...

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  106. But the only reason they have all these perks and able to serve as celeb soldiers is because they're famous. Why couldnt the same options of not serving frontline be given to other soldiers too? The young men barely out of high school or in the middle of their college education. Bunch of cowards.

    And after they've served, they'll start appearing on varieties and cry about the hard times they had. Isnt that hypocritical of them? These celebs could have served in the frontline but they choose to take the easy way out.

    You sound very ignorant in the statement you made and stop being such an appologist for your oppars. I used to like rain but i lost respect for him

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  107. Simply put and most likely scenario - a major overly-complex bureaucratic system with too many civilian officials who don't have the adequate amount of experience or even basic knowledge being in charge of the defense ministry.

    I doubt even higher-ranking officers in the military are happy with the 'celebrity soldier' thing existing and are probably just as furious as the enlisted ranks and junior officers, particularly generals leading combat units.

    For sure, it didn't exist during the 60s to late 80s, when the military itself ran the government. The only thing close was having soldiers running each unit's soccer or baseball teams, but those were unofficial positions.

    "Who would choose to go to the front line if they can avoid it"

    There are many non-frontline positions that are required to run the military, such as cyber security/defense, maintenance/technicians, logistics, cooks, armorers, air defense, intelligence and so forth. And even then, ever since WW2, technology such as ballistic missiles and doctrines such as deliberately targeting civilian infrastructure has shown that blood will not be spilled solely on the front line.

    In case of both Koreas, everyone, regardless if military or civilian, is vulnerable.

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  108. i dont see the problem here..they go to another country to promote right right?and isn't it natural they send celebrities, since they are famous..i lived in indonesia, and i remember hyun bin come to our country when he still served in the army ..

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  109. I bet leeteuk is one of them.

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  110. But sg is not at war

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  111. Thats what he said. if won bin hyun bin and other a list actors could choose to serve in the front line and reject going into the celeb unit...

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  112. Yes, but the morale of the troops is an important thing, isn't it?

    It's very important for soldiers to see their loved ones more, imo, so they can go back and do the best job they can when they put on their uniforms.

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  113. Ah, I see. Thanks for the info :) It looks like the system is pretty hugely different as opposed to Korea, where all recruits go through roughly 6 weeks of basic training and then upon given the roles they're assigned or volunteered for, do specialized training for said roles - in which the number of weeks spent varies highly + a lot of refresher training and large-scale unit field exercises/simulations along the way.

    I'm actually quite surprised that in SG, there's a separate basic training course for the obese as well O_o.

    From what I heard from friends and relatives who are currently serving/or already have, the number of leave days they get varied between 2-4 weeks a year, not to mention there's also another 15 day-offs due to public holidays (such as Memorial Day, Christmas, Independence, Chuseok etc.). Oddly, Armed Forces' Day doesn't give any day-offs.



    The ones who served in the 80s and 90s said they only got 1-2 weeks of leave per year, though in recent years, it seems 3-4 weeks is the official limit allowed. Extra leaves can depend on the unit or position you're in - in some cases, you already have it (as in the case of celeb 'soldiers'), others require you to earn it through whatever achievements you get commended for.

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  114. Se7en you better not be one of them

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  115. tsk tsk tsk disappointed

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  116. Hyun Bin however, at least had a solid work ethic up to the point he was praised by fellow marines (note, army does not equate to marine corps).


    It'd make more sense if the govt had men like him or former veterans with a solid combat record such as those who fought in the 6/25 war or Vietnam representing the ROK Army in other countries.

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  117. You can't be 'drafted' into a certain position upon completing basic training and not be allowed to get out of it - even in a conscript army, that's detrimental to morale.


    All positions are welcome to volunteers, provided you meet the specific requirements for them.

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  118. Oh, that must be really difficult for them. Even if they get all of the days you mentioned above, that's only a month and a half of days they get for themselves. :( No wonder Rain is so hated...all the days he took off...damn.



    As for SG's basic training, I think they have a separate and more intensive course because there have been deaths here and there because of sudden heart attacks. The weather here can go up to 35-36 degrees celsius and they really need to make sure the kids are in prime shape before they send them out to the field.

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  119. Getting in active duty service doesn't mean they're doing something that can be equated as active duty in the practical sense.


    Considering Leeteuk's done a musical and got 'awarded' for being a 'top shooter' in his 'squadron' during basic camp as the media put it (of which none of it makes any sense), it doesn't sound like he's doing anything really meaningful in his service.


    He doesn't strike me as overly dumb either, so he probably did eventually realize it was best for his image to just lay low.

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  120. Is the picture recent? hmm I'm really curious who these are. If their names get release, they'll definitely get hate from netizens.

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  121. all you girls say this because you don't have do mandatory military service.... It seems a bit unfair that guys have to do almost 2 years of presumably quite tough service and women don't have to do anything...maybe there are physical differences but it still seems sexist against men.....my point is don't judge them we know that idols already have a very stressful life.

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  122. Generally speaking, I think 3-4 weeks is usually a norm even in other countries (here in NZ, troops get a similar amount as well and in the US, troops get 30 days a year), not including public holidays of course. Those with families living in or near bases are lucky of course haha.


    But even then, every branch should have their own off-duty hours as well but this may depend on country. For South Korea, it's somewhat difficult to imagine (where I lived, occasionally there were like a few dozen soldiers manning checkpoints at areas leading to highways in rainy or snowy days or training in full gear even in the weekends).


    Training-wise though, it sounds like SK and SG share a few similarities when it comes to deaths though. I'm not sure about sudden heart attack cases, but suicides and extreme mental breakdowns (where the perpetrator ends up shooting/grenading his own unit) have occurred, not to mention all sorts of physical abuse which would be considered intolerable in Western nations.

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  123. the 2nd picture just looks like an idol concert, is that really adult shows?
    I knew being celebrity soldier basically meant do whatever you want as long as you don't appear on TV and keep it low on SNS but still this is disappointing.

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  124. Should also consider the factor that some, if not most have either friends, relatives or acquaintances who have either served or are currently serving as well.

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  125. I can't really blame the celebrity for being 'celebrity' but I do feel disappointed when they choose to be a 'celebrity soldier'. I think we should question the Korean government to why the actually this this whole special treatment for celebrity my ass. They really need to even it out among the soldier. If I were a guy, I know for sure I would be pissed off if some guy who just sing and dance or just act on tv gets special treatment.

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  126. Do those ppl even noe wad integrity even means??

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  127. ....Active-duty means serving full-time, regardless of the position you're in. If Leeteuk wasn't active-duty, then he shouldn't even be in the military to begin with or have become a reservist, which is impossible as that can only be done after the mandatory 2 years.


    The problem however, is that what Leeteuk has done can't be considered parallel to active-duty soldiers who mostly have it much harder than celebrities like him. To put it bluntly, he's active-duty in the official sense but practically, calling him an active-duty soldier is an insult to everyone else in the Army.

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  128. 6 disliked this!!! probably they are gays!!

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  129. Be a kiss-ass all you want, no need to bring gays into this.

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  130. More like 6 communists.

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  131. so knetz... please dig the name for us o_o
    i hope in the future when my biases enlist, they wont join the celeb division. if they do i might... well i will be disappointed.

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  132. honestly, the best thing would indeed be to get rid off the celebrity service because at the end it only harms those celebrities.

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  133. this 'scandal' aside, i find unfair for human beings (celebrity or not) to stop their lives for 2 years. skorea needs to shorten the army duty to one year of service and aim to an army of only volunteers and pro soldiers.

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  134. Wait, which comments are you referring to?

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  135. like insooni (인순이)

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  136. LeoDayoungShipperLOLJune 25, 2013 at 8:10 AM

    5. [+49, -0] What's so special about being a celebrity that even the
    country wants to protect them like this? They're just one out of the
    many careers that exist in this world...


    indeed.. i always wonder why they get special treatment.. being a celebrity is not the most important job a country need u know

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  137. man, I'm happy my bias is not in the military right now, im pretty sure they would do it seriously but with all this controversies people would probably will mix them there

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  138. No way! I wish there was an army duty in my country, stuff would be much better if there was, the army teaches u values and to respect your elders and other things that I bet it’s what has made Korea grow so fast, plus the situation with North Korea is unknown I don’t see anything bad with them being ready for anything that might happen and to fight and defend not only their country but their family’s too

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  139. to defend a country you need an army of pros, not a bunch of 18 years old kids forced to do something against their will.
    ask them if they would enlist if they hadn't to, most of them would not sacrifice 2 years of life for the compulsory enlistment.
    and what about pacifists? cant their soul be respected? why do they have to serve?





    the respect for the elders crap is what makes skorean kids jump off the roofs of their schools.

    it's not only korean people that respect each others, you know? do you this human beings go around spitting at other human beings' face like it's nothing? it's not a planet populated by barbarians.

    gosh! stop being blindly enamoured of a country just for what you watch on tv!

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  140. i didn’t
    say everyone else in the world is barbarian but from what I see the respect in
    Korea is something of great value something that other countries don’t have,
    and respect is not just about not spitting on other people, the fact that in nKorea people can easily sleep on the street (cause they drank too much) and
    wake with their wallet, cellphone and cloth on it’s a sign of respect to other people, being able to feel secure in the street it’s a sign of respect.
    You know the military service probably saved tons of kids that had no friends before entering it from suicide by creating a bonds and friendship b/w people on the same troop.
    And even bullies, since they didn’t have the correct education the military service helps a lot to teach them values.
    I’m not enamored by the country I talk from personal experience, my country used to have an army
    duty and since they took it away shit has gown down the drain people don’t even feel safe in their own home, I got robbed 10 feets away from my house and you cant even trust the police only the military.
    so yeah I see nothing wrong with army duty and I wish it was part of my country again

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  141. sangchu and seven spotted at massage house(practically prostitution).
    game over

    http://news.nate.com/view/20130625n40979?mid=e0102

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  142. I don't know if you've noticed this but South Korea is still officially at war with a neighbour who has nuclear missiles and has done test launches with those missiles endangering the whole region.

    They're not going to shorten anything any time soon.

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  143. The army for most Korean celebrities is a vacation. Time to get out of the spotlight, relax, visit adult entertainment resorts, etc. They really are just chilling.

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  144. I'd feel much safer with a Military made up of Men and Woman who voluntarily pledge to fight and defend as a Solider for my country with Heart and dedication as opposed to a Military made up of people who were forced upon their will and don't have that real heart or dedication. So I agree with that part.

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  145. didn't you answer me? coz i saw your name in "My Disqus" !

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  146. I think Rain was obligated to go, because of his scandal. Koreans are so proud of their obligatory military service that they wouldn't want someone to screw off with their job. They couldn't have possibly said " Hey Rain, you must be having a hard time. Here, you can go to the U.S. to rest for a while, bye!"
    O_O

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  147. That celebrity soldier thing needs to go. If something were to happen where they'd have to help fight, they'd be utterly useless.

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  148. According to new Nate article, it's most likely Se7en and Sangchu.

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  149. [+54, -3] The military sent Leeteuk and Rain on a trip to America a couple months ago, too...

    uhm Leeteuk didn't go the US. he wasn't even included in that activity. i know it was rain and sangchu? uhhh, get your facts straight netizens

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  150. Oh gosh. This will probably get ugly.

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  151. can't read korean but they say it is se7en and sangchu http://m.blog.naver.com/mr16ms1/30170674979

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  152. hate to break it to you..

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  153. I'm now more disappointed in him than I am in Rain

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  154. ikr. he's a freaking dumbass for doing this. even if he wasn't in the army.. dude has a freaking girlfriend.

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  155. I've lost all respect for him, she doesn't deserve that.

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  156. Well Israel makes women do mandatory military duty as well. I think it's a good thing. At least when time comes, you have the abilities to protect your home and your country if need be.

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  157. on the other hand.. lol @ someone screwing up more than Rain lol

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  158. are south korean soldiers not allowed to visit their families for two years???

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  159. AKP revealed that it was indeed Se7en and Sangchu. Hmmmmm.

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  160. Celebs who enlist and hold loud farewell events and assure their fans they'll have a "safe" return (ex. Leeteuk's century-long whining) make you think they'll be going through some hard and painful trial of hardships. When in reality, for the most part they're busy "boosting soldier morale" and entertaining. My respects to Hyunbin, Jo Insung, Yoo Seungho (at just 19), and all the celeb soldiers that enlisted quietly and to a normal military unit.

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  161. Dandelion HypochaerisJune 25, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    http://www.instiz.net/bbs/list.php?id=pt&no=1305640

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  162. Everybodys acting as if they killed someone, they just went to have some fun.... they´re guys, no need everybody freaks out. I hope se7ens career doesnt end cuz of this

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  163. Confirmed by AKP that it's Se7en, Sangchu and Rain. Hmmm.

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  164. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzwstaD14Ho <- the video. I have no idea what the stuff about the motel at the beginning is about.. was that whole group of guys celeb soldiers? jfc

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  165. just read it was se7en well if his career wasn't over, it's over now. I'm completely ashamed of him and other 'celebrity' soldiers who not only 'hangout at parlors' but also chose the route to become one. consider them buried and gone now. he deserves it honestly, i'm so crushed and disappointed in him. guess him and hanbyul were over huh? because if he dare pull this shit on her while they're still together, that ain't right.

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  166. I'm with the K-Netz on this.



    Just gonna walk away now.

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  167. I read it too O_O jajajaja I'm sorry for him, bcuz I'm sure there are a lot of artist that have do it before them..

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  168. I'm not sure how I feel about this. I'm really split on what I think.

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  169. oh se7en!!.... I dont know what to say.....

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  170. i cant open the link to akp tho

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  171. How long have Hanbyul and Se7en been over though...Hyunseung went to his private farewell dinner before enlistment and Hanbyul was there along with a few other actor friends...

    If he did this shit to her while they're still together, he seriously deserves the world of hurt coming to him right now.

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  172. Whatever happens, this is not going to end well.

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  173. they have videos. it was reported on news.

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  174. It was revealed to be Se7en and Sangchu. They were even violent with the camera man once they were approached for a comment.

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  175. Do you have the link to the video? I can't open allkpop.

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  176. No, since I can't open the link back. But there's a video attached with the article.

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  177. Apparently, people are saying it's seven and sangchu???

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  178. well, say bye bye to your career now. as much as i like you Se7en, but this... just no.

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  179. it's rain, sangchu, and se7en. even the koreans on my twitter feed are talking about it.

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  180. yes I know...I'm feeling sorry for him too, but they said ithey cant see his face clear...let us wait and see

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  181. its already confirmed that the 2 celebrity soldiers are seven and mighty mouth sangchu..u can see the full article on allkpop with videos and the reporters full statement..

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  182. dont know they siad its him, but some people said then cant see his face clear... so let wait and see

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  183. Okay found it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i581Gk0OEkU&feature=player_embedded

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  184. HAVE SOME FUN?!?!?!? They're country is at a verge of war wif NK and while other soldiers are training their asses off they juz went to a massage parlour and enjoy themselves. You say as if its not big deal at all...

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  185. I really dont know if they are still togethr, she was not with him any time soon his enlistment, he said before he went he have not see her and have not talked to her bcuz she was busy... its 10 years so...

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  186. You are right, but you sound like some k-netizens wannabe!

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  187. As far as I can guess, i'm assuming it's a whorehouse basically.

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  188. Does this has to do anything with the celebrity soldiers(SE7EN TOO) visiting 'Happy Ending' massage parlors??

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  189. you can recognize him from the tattoo he has on the upper left arm..

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  190. I don't know what to think about this. Your right, I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

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  191. Se7en! You have a girlfriend!

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  192. It's a whorehouse? Holy shit I was thinking strip club! If this is what it is damn.. shame...

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  193. Holy shit stop with the "K-netizen wannabe" line already. That shit is more play out than the word "swag" is amongst kpop fans.

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  194. ahh this is REALLY bad!! =S

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