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Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Crying Nut files a lawsuit against CNBLUE for violation of copyright [Updates]


Article: Crying Nut files a violation of copyright lawsuit against CNBLUE

Source: Yonhap News via Naver

Crying Nut filed a lawsuit against CNBLUE/FNC on the 12th because Mnet released a Japanese DVD featuring a CNBLUE remake performance of "Offside", a Crying Nut song, from their 2010 Mnet 'M! Countdown' performance, which they had not received permission for.

FNC responded that they were not informed about the decision to include that performance from the DVD producers because they are not involved with the production of the DVD at all. Regarding the performance of the song itself, they explained that CNBLUE wasn't given a choice by Mnet. They had initially refused to perform on 'M! Countdown' due to a busy World Cup schedule but Mnet said they would provide everything as long as CNBLUE performed on stage. It wasn't until after the performance that CNBLUE realized the instrumental accompaniment was Crying Nut's song.

Mnet responded that they are currently looking into the issue.

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1. [+362, -21] Crying Nut is exercising their right to their creation so I don't know why people are saying they're being picky about this

2. [+359, -59] CNBLUE and F.T. Island are not bands... Aren't they just idols? Don't call them bands.. They're just idols with a band concept.

3. [+277, -21] Whatever the case, they're using the song without permission so Crying Nut needs to be compensated for it. The problem is that the lawsuit should be directed at Mnet..

4. [+279, -31] Looks like to these so called band kids, the only seniors they treat like seniors are the ones on TV and not indie seniors. Crying Nut are years ahead of them debut wise, they're grand seniors to them

5. [+257, -22] If it's being sold on a DVD, then I can see why they would resort to filing a lawsuit

6. [+237, -18] I can see why Crying Nut's pissed

7. [+268, -56] Shin Hae Chul once said, "If CNBLUE is a band, then a fly is a bird."

8. [+155, -11] Just give them what they deserve and apologize if you have any shame at all

9. [+161, -24] Why does it sound like the CEO is just making a bunch of excuses for what's inherently their mistake?

10. [+160, -31] I should've known about these kids when they came on 'Radio Star' asking for sympathy because they're the poor victimized juniors by what Shin Hae Chul said. They failed to address their other issues like what actually makes them an indie band and their plagiarized songs. They don't need Shin Hae Chul's acknowledgement to prove their skills... nothing changes the fact that they're not indie.

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Article: CNBLUE responds with 'regret' to Crying Nut lawsuit

Source:
OSEN via Nate

1. [+212, -19] Even if it's not fair, they violated what they did. The issue now becomes whether Mnet compensates Crying Nut or CNBLUE

2. [+189, -18] Mnet is such a distasteful broadcast company...

3. [+134, -76] I just think the timing of this lawsuit is suspicious. FNC never involved themselves with the DVD release and went against Mnet when they decided to release it, even putting out notices asking people not to buy it. That's why FNC has an ill relationship with Mnet. CNBLUE doesn't perform on M! Countdown, have you noticed? That says it all, doesn't it? The performance itself, Mnet forced CNBLUE to perform the day of the performance just because they were rookies without a say. The DVD release is just a collection of remake stages that they're releasing as a way to make more money. Obviously Crying Nut chose the weaker opponent and decided to file the lawsuit against FNC when given a choice between the two.

4. [+50, -4] (Copy and paste of FNC's notice regarding the 'CNBLUE Special DVD' - a collection of CNBLUE's performances on M! Countdown - release pointing out that its production is by KBS Media CJ&M and that FNC has nothing to do with the DVD's production.)

5. [+48, -3] Seems like Mnet is in the wrong on this one

6. [+48, -9] The only thing that needs to be known is that FNC has absolutely nothing to do with this DVD. The DVD producers did not receive permission from FNC to make this. The DVD is just a collection of CNBLUE's remake stages on Mnet so it was basically released by Mnet for profit.

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Article: Mnet reps "It is true that we asked CNBLUE to perform a CNBLUE song"

Source: OSEN via Naver

1. [+116, -6] Then Mnet can take responsibility for everything

2. [+91, -5] I just hope both bands aren't harmed from this

3. [+85, -3] Aren't the two bands the victims in this case? It's the fault of Mnet and the company. CNBLUE just did what was asked of them while Crying Nut is in a position where they have to file a lawsuit.. Their song was used in a DVD made to seem as if it was CNBLUE's song so they'd be stupid not to carry forward with a lawsuit. None of this would've happened if both companies checked in with each other prior to its release... I feel bad for both Crying Nut and CNBLUE.

4. [+82, -3] So basically Mnet's at fault with CNBLUE and Crying Nut the victims ㅋㅋㅋ

5. [+65, -3] Mnet has to take responsibility for it for using the song without permission

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Article: Mnet reps respond to CNBLUE-Crying Nut lawsuit "We admit our mistake and will work to mediate"

Source:
Sports Hankook

Mnet basically said that they will work as the mediator to ensure that the lawsuit can conclude positively for both sides since they are the ones at fault. "None of us want this to be interpreted in a negative away. Anyway, we will do our best to help so that both sides can solve this without any misunderstandings. We apologize to both fandoms."


191 comments:

  1. 7. [+268, -56] Shin Hae Chul once said, "If CNBLUE is a band, then a fly is a bird."



    oh dam. lol.

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  2. even the idol group with the least anti's still have anti's lol

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  3. Why is FNC/CNBLUE being blame for something that is Mnet responsability, they didn't see profit because Mnet decided to release the DVD out of their own accord without consulting FNC.
    Mnet is responsabile for paying for the copyrights of songs performe in their program. Why they sue 3 years later? they clearly chosed the weakest link because they can't go against Mnet.

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  4. 3. [+277, -21] Whatever the case, they're using the song without permission so Crying Nut needs to be compensated for it. The problem is that the lawsuit should be directed at Mnet..

    True tho. Why CNBLUE? poor my boys. The year just started awesomely for them.. and now this. Dont worry, shit happens.

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  5. man it is not CN Blue's day....or "comeback"...

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  6. those netizens really want to find anything to throw shade at CN BLUE and idol bands....just because they are mainstream and label themselves as being indie doesn't mean they aren't a band. It's obviously not CN BLUE's fault that Mnet created that DVD. Crying nut is barking up the wrong tree. I hope everything gets resolved

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  7. I pity those netizens who until now refuses to acknowledge CNBLUE as a band. Keep being pressed netizens! You're so called "fake band " is still going on a world tour. I suggest they do themselves a favor and see them in concert.

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  8. I think at least I'm relieved most top comments know that mnet is the one at fault here. People who bashed cnblue/fnc are basically haters or fail people that don't even bother to read the news.

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  9. "5. [+257, -22] If it's being sold on a DVD, then I can see why they would resort to filing a lawsuit"
    It's Mnet and FNC's fault.

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  10. Come on cn blue needs that money. They may need to buy their own albums again one day. lol

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  11. just give their money to that nugu band and end all this.

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  12. As for the copyright issue, someone should be definitely responsible. I do think Crying Nut is barking at the wrong tree. MNET should be held responsible.

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  13. " I can see why Crying Nut's pissed"
    me too, Mnet should be more careful.

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  14. i bet he didn't even listen to them before making the comment
    he always came off as one proud, a bit cocky guy, always go around bashing celebs

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  15. Some of them may consider them a "fly" they are sure flying higher than any of these so called korean "birds".

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  16. I feel bad for CN Blue, they're not marketed as an indie band in Japan but everyone rags on them for it anyway. And shouldn't the fact that they write they're own songs prove them to be a legit band?? Hopefully the case goes to Mnet since they're the ones at fault here.

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  17. well koreans prefer bands like Busker busker over idol bands like FT island or cn blue.

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  18. this might be the reason why cnblue didn't perform on mnet countdown
    FNC and MNET has been having problems with each other for quite some time, it's like seeing father fighting with his son, FNC is afterall MNET's subsidiary company

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  19. i suggest you to read the actual fact rather than some stupid rumors.. just dont kid yourself.

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  20. busker busker, who? LOL

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  21. Crying Nut and Busker Busker are some nugu bands that nobody cares.

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  22. not necessary true, FT ISLAND and CNBLUE has an explosive debut

    back in 2007,FT ISLAND top music charts for 8 weeks straight weeks with Lovesick

    Busker Busker only got famous and explosive popularity after they won superstar k and went mainstream

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  23. It's not FNC fault because they didn't approved the DVD, Mnet released itand they received all the financial benefits. FNC didn't saw a penny of that money and they even told Boices not to buy it.

    Mnet is the only one responsabile here and for that FNC is suing them, that's why CNBLUE hasn't made a comeback in Mcountdown.

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  24. While the world prefers CNBLUE and FT Island.

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  25. Personally, It's okay whoever they prefer over cnblue and fti. But is it really necessary for them to bash cnb and fti? If they don't like them, just ignore them. What's with the hate?

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  26. the funny thing when this troll comment come from Beast fans

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  27. why is it that korean tv networks is in the spotlight nowadays in a bad light?

    k-celebs/idols carries a heavy burden of being scandal-free coz they're a role model to the youth.

    but what about the k-tv networks & k-journalists?aren't they influential too?are they teaching knetizens that it's all about the money?

    can't blame the knetizens sometime coz their media is unreliable,unethical,unprofessional & just greedy.

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  28. Well dumbass people like you believe they bought them when there wasn't even proof of it, NetizenBuzz already updated that article and stated that FNC did not buyback because their sales are normal. Try harder next time.

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  29. Crying Nut is pretty well known in Korea.

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  30. Busker Busker aren't nugus, lol. They completely owned the charts for half of last year and dominated digital sales for ages.

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  31. The point is they shouldn't because Mnet is responsabile for paying copyrights of the songs played on their show. It's their right to received what belongs to them since Mnet made profit out of it but they're going against the wrong people....plus it's weird that they are doing it 3 years later when the DVD was released 2010.

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  32. okay, guys. no need to further the fanwar. they all are good bands. peace.

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  33. "8. [+155, -11] Just give them what they deserve and apologize if you have any shame at all" Why would they? the responsabile it's Mnet. People should inform themselves before leaving comments...but them again what can we expect from these knetizens :/

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  34. CNBLUE doesn't need that money cause their royalties alone are already huge enough for their future. And on the other hand, Boices are not small and poor so we can buy their albums.

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  35. FNC is suing Mnet for this, that's why they didn't made a comeback in Mcoundown.

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  36. Crying Nut and Busker Buster are much more famous then CNblue in Korea -.- They're nugus to only i-fans.

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  37. Busker Busker is Korea's favorite band right now. They totally killed the digital and physical charts.
    Even in the end of year Awards most people in Korea wanted them to take the Daesang.

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  38. Your favourite Beast from CUBE buy their own albums too.

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  39. Nah, I hate beast. :)

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  40. Once again I hate beast. :)

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  41. How do you know? Are you korean? LMAO

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  42. I just wonder, what if the news title "cryingnut files lawsuit agains mnet"
    Who would bother to read and would it be in top 10 article?

    Not a fan, but it's quite suspicious.

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  43. "CNBLUE and F.T. Island are not bands... Aren't they just idols? Don't call them bands.. They're just idols with a band concept."


    wow...it's been a while since I saw comments like this about CNBlue and F.T. Island.

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  44. I can feel your salt, it makes me laugh. haha

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  45. oh I see Korea doesn't belong to the world anymore.

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  46. o_O I don't think Busker Busker sells more than CNBlue... and there is no way Crying Nut and Busker x2 are more popular than CNB too...

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  47. "2. [+359, -59] CNBLUE and F.T. Island are not bands... Aren't they just idols? Don't call them bands.. They're just idols with a band concept."

    as expected...this is such a *copy+paste comment, they always have it in any cnblue/ftisland article.

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  48. CN Blue is considered the best korean band.

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  49. Why does every band have to be indie or hard rock or something? Are Maroon 5 not a band because they make pop-rock music? :/

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  50. You're stupidity makes me laugh too honey, so we are even :)

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  51. Really, but you are the one getting all serious over idols. haha

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  52. you used lee ki kwang as your dp

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  53. sorry but Busker busker >>>>>> Cn blue

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  54. I know its bait for beast articles. (evil smile) haha

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  55. When you have Crying Nut against CNBlue, Knetizens are obviously on Crying Nut's side. They're one of the few bands that has influenced K-rock for years.

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  56. lmao the comments here are no better. just because you like cnblue/fti, does not mean that you have to resort to calling crying nut a 'nugu band'.

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  57. Cn Blue already used their money to pay off the FNC. So their cleared of that now.

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  58. The thing is it shouldn't be against CNBLUE but must be against MNET. I do hope Crying Nut deserves what is rightfully theirs but they are obviously barking at the wrong tree. Both Crying Nut and CNBLUE should sue MNET!

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  59. Busker Busker and Crying Nut are loved by the whole public while CNblue is loved by only their fans. See the huge difference? Having the public as your fans and having teenage fangirls (usually idols) leave a huge gap between popularity.

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    1. Thank you for calling me a teenage its been a while :$

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  60. This is an international site with people from different countries. Guess that's why most people don't have any idea who they are. Crying Nut is a famous indie band in Korea. Outside Korea, I don't have any idea how they are faring.

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  61. you don't have to know them, but calling them 'nugu' is obviously meant as an insult.

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  62. because rock fans are always music elitist. cnblue and fti are like korean equivalents of Mcfly. they're generally not taken seriously by rock fans aka old dudes

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  63. I think it's far too reaching for you to say CNBLUE is loved only by their fans. They have always done well digitally with their tracks. Busker and CN may be more recognized by the public but it doesn't have to mean CNBLUE isn't. As for fan demographics, seems you know very little about CNBLUE, they don't have that much teenage fans. Most fans are in their 20s up you can easily tell that when you go to their concerts and fansigns.

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  64. probs bcos they're way more popular and selling way more than actual bands? it is kind of unfair you know

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  65. okay, then. still, i don't agree with them bashing and hating others just because they have different music genre. it's like new kind of discrimination. they don't even read the news (or read it but choose to ignore it) and suddenly jumping into conclusion that cnblue is the one at fault.

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  66. Soo funny i tried to say how CN Blue& FT Island arent real bands on allkpop, and their delusional fans went hard on me.. I guess they aren't too familiar with rock music.
    Its like calling the jonas brothers a rock band

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  67. Umm they are not bashing them, its the truth. Fan girls... *sigh*

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  68. people like you need stop with this whole discrimination thing, you are taking it a bit too far. don't be completely delusional now missy.
    accept it or not.. cn blue/ft island aren't real rock bands.

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  69. Lmao no thanks i don't look to korea for rock music.. I listen to american, german and japanese bands...

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  70. How about you shut your nugu noob mouth up? if you don't know shit.. shut up!

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  71. Lol fan girls are so dumb, just because you use a guitar, bass and drums that does not make you a rock band..

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  72. in 2012,busker busker's first album sold 136,234 copies while cnblue's ear fun sold 122,515 copies - from gaon

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  73. Cnblue was marketed as an Indie band a few years ago in Japan because they were. They were under a small label. But they aren't anymore and they don't market themselves like that anymore either.
    Netizens need to learn the definition of a band. Just because they film dramas and go on variety shows doesn't make them any less of a band. If they bothered to look at the credits, they'll realize that Yonghwa and Jonghyun wrote the songs on the new album, including the title track. They all play their instruments live now on music shows since they are finally allowed to. What more do they need to prove that they're a band?

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  74. Lee gikwang is a racist, idiot, tool.

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  75. CN Blue and FT Island are bandss because they do practically the same things any band does (play instruments, write/compose songs, have powerful lead vocalists, go on tour, etc.). So saying they're not seems to be more about k-netizens being haters/elitists/hipsters than about k-netizens following actual logic.

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  76. ohmygosh!! i'm Corean too!!!! i knoes everythiing about korea!! lol

    I like how you always actually give us information that netizen buzz has already told us, such a told us.. such a tool

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  77. Maybe they have to make themselves less goodlooking? LOL at these netizens who cannot accept they are a band.

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  78. Cnblue is well liked by the general public besides their fans too. That's why they sold so many albums with a rather small fan base

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  79. you're really stupid if you think only old people listen to rock music.

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  80. Can i ask why fan girls take comments like this as negative comments? 90% of kpop fans are not familiar with rock music at all. CN Blue/FT Island are not rock bands. Just because you take a group of guys and give them a guitar. bass and drumset it does not make it rock music. -.-
    They are just like the Jonas Brothers or McFly.

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  81. Crying nut will lose the lawsuit against f&c bc it's mnet they should be suing. Cn lue has not once performed on mnet for their comeback and have to yet to win on mcountdown despite winning on k chart. So something is going on between mnet and f&c. But Idk why cn blue is not considered a band they play their own instruments and do their own music what are the qualifications for being a band?

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  82. Yeah he is, but so are beast fans. Since he got the oppa didn't mean it treatment. Now, since you are so salty about him being racist go to the next akp article about beast and type this in all cap (LEE KI KWANG IS A RACIST DOUCHE BAG.) I'm sure you will have many pleasant reply's. :)

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  83. But band is not all about heavy rock music.

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  84. they're not, but it's always the old dudes who complain about these pop-rock bands. Idgaf personally.

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  85. CN Blue is pop rock, no one's denying that they're not a pure rock band.

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  86. gurl popularity means nothing for music elitists. actually, the more popular you are, the more you'll be bashed. just accept it. it's how it always works. the more ~indie and obscure a band is, the more it'll be praised.

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  87. This pretty much, there are soooo many sub-genres of rock music that people ignore or demean. CN Blue is pop rock, is that so hard for people to admit?

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  88. LOL I had that thought too! Someone cover their faces or give them ugly haircuts. Maybe then their talents will be recognized -_-

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  89. are you the same person with the guest above? why sudden raging? lol
    whether cnb is rock or not, that's still arguable and I don't mind if people say they don't, cause their song are consist of various genre. But they certainly a band because they can make and play their own music.
    NB: If you think we are delusional and you are better than us, then don't bother to speak with us. Just leave a comment and go. Your stubbornness is not much different than us, you know?

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  90. I'm a rock fan but I'm not an old dude :(

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  91. It's so hard for them, I guess. It's funny how they boast around knowing rock music but don't know what even a BAND is.

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  92. No it's not the same person. Disqus is wonky & sometimes the names appear the same but when you refresh the page they change =)

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  93. Here's the perfect example of an elitist

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  94. technically they are a legit pop rock band. they do self composing, playing instrument and stuff. but the fact they're branching into other stuff like acting and mc-ing might be the reason why they're seen nothing more than just an idol with band concept. and they were scouted based on looks too, so yeah.

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  95. I take it as it's your personal opinion, because if they really hate them because they're more popular, what a pathetic reason they have. why don't they just use their money to buy their 'actual bands' album instead of blaming innocent people?

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  96. CN Blue isn't pop-rock.. Pop rock bands are like, Paramore, Fall Out Boy, All American Rejects... O.O
    And i'm a rock fan and im not old either. wtf

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  97. It's the same thing as the mindset of actress/actors> >> idols.. or
    indie band>>> idol band.. or underground hiphop>>>idol hiphop
    It's mostly in the mind! Idols are an easy target.

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  98. Yes there are various sub genres of rock, and CN Blue does not fit into any of them.. They are pop music
    If you think making heavy rock music is what considered a band rock, than you really don't know.
    Its always a challenge trying to discuss music with kpop fans.. So ignorant

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  99. Paramore etc are more pop-punk and punk rock tbh.

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  100. CN Blue is a pop-rock band, so yes they do fit into a sub-genre.

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  101. Maroon 5 isn't pop rock either. Lol
    Kpop fan girls don't know too much about music. A band does not have to make "hard rock" to be considered rock O.o
    These type of silly discussions only with exist with kpop fans trying to prove something about their bias.

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  102. I meant that BB and CN are much more recognized by the public. It probably was my poor choice to say "Cnblue is only loved by their fans" I should've said "Cnblue is mostly loved by their fans"


    And tbh, the public still sees CNblue as an idol group so the general public is still not a great fan of them yet. Just a year ago, whenever I read comments on CNblue articles on Korean websites, the comments were all bashful, like the netizens were saying that CNblue is an idol group pretending to be a band. These days, the hate is ceased down a bit but the public still doesn't see them good enough.


    CNblue is my second favourite group besides SJ so I always read stuff about CNblue on Korean websites so yes I DO know much about CNblue.

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  103. Umm Punk Rock... Are bands like Blink 182 or Green Day... Ugh you don't know much do you.. lol..

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  104. I was implying that they lie more towards punk rock, not stating that they actually are punk rock. Paramore is mainly pop-punk, as I mentioned. Pop rock is bands like Maroon 5.

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  105. Sorry to disappoint you but I'm not your typical kpop fangirl that you're expecting to be ignorant. My most concern here is the definition of what a BAND is. But if you would ask me, CNBLUE is on the trendy pop-rock side.

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  106. lol, you're right. their name have just went back to normal now.

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  107. exactly. cnblue is like maroon 5, mcfly, etc. they are pop-rock, and anything that gets classified together with pop tends to be looked upon by the rock crowd.

    I'm not saying it's right but this kind of music elitism exists everywhere.

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  108. She is korean but she DOESN'T even live in korea. There are lots of gyopos that visit this site.

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  109. My point exaclty! Sucks but its true, I'll continue to like pop-rock with my other favourite rock sub-genres anyway, lol.

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  110. I'm discussing this with you anymore. Can't expect much from kpop fans.

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  111. Can you stop being so elitist? I'm not just a Kpop fan, I actually am a fan of rock sub-genres too so I actually know something about rock music thank you very much. But you can go ahead and go back to your little hole where you know everything there is to know about everything.

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  112. Can see haters will ride on this issue but CNBLUE is also a victim here..that's why CNBLUE didnt perform at mcoundown..Mnet should take responsibility..but crying nuts is barking on the wrong tree...

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  113. Whos crying nut?0_O

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  114. Wow..what a fortune teller said about cnblue especially Yonghwa was true...cnblue was making headlines in everywhere since their comeback..Yonghwa with his love scandal was pretty interesting too...

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  115. Busker busker members are not old dudes and they are the most loved korean band nowadays.. CNblue can't even compare with them in popularity and sales.

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  116. Aren't you a k-pop fan ?

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  117. umm im not the ones who are replying negatively to you... i used to be a b2st fan.. then i realized how the group of full of douchebags&and their music is nothing special.. i cant stand kikwang and doojoon, and junghyun is cocky as fuck and a g dragon swagger jack.. yoseob idc for him and hyunseung is a tool..
    the only person i like in that group is dongwoon...

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  118. nope.. just that... i pity you ^^

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  119. How aren't they a band. an idol band is still a band. They still play instruments right???

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  120. The reason I said s/he's not is because s/he responded to E.J in a mocking told. Plus it's riddled with misspelled words & grammatical errors

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  121. Nah, no you don't. Your just butthurt, but its o.k. you are only a fangirl after all and fangirls are like dirt on the ground.

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  122. No one said they were a rock group. They're simply stating that CN Blue & FT Island are bands, which they are.

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  123. lol at dirt on the ground. really? do you really think fangirls are nothing but subhuman or something?

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  124. Well... it's okay that they filed a lawsuit.. but you know.. calling CNB not a band is a bit harsh.. I've seen them live and I want to many rock concerts before.. sure they started off as 'Idols' but they turned into a band. They really rocked the concert.. They shouldn't get a big offslash because of a mistake of others~ :S

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  125. CNBLUE never said they were a rock band. People seem to think band=rock. A band is just a just a group of musicians performing together with or without a lead singer. And the genres could be anything from rock, jazz, r&b, dance, pop or all the genres combined.

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  126. FNC was cleared off the buy back allegation.... so maybe you should do some research before typing your comment.

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  127. CNBLUE don't need to use their money since the buyback issue has been proved to be a rumor wilh ill intentions. FYI Gaon chart has been released and CNBLUE has been proven innocent.

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  128. ITA. Since when does a band equal rock. Bands existed way before rock was even a genre. There were jazz bands, blues bands, country bands, R&B, folk bands, . Some of these fans need to learn their music history before making ridiculous statements.

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  129. Article like this is something the haters waiting for bashing cnblue...so arrogant when some people think they really know about a band...why not just enjoy their good music ?

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  130. Popularity breeds contempt.

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  131. And why is it that clueless rock stans think band=rock. Bands existed way before rock was even a genre. As long as musicians are performing together as a group on stage they're a band; they can play whatever genre of music they chose. CNBLUE never once said they were a rock band. It's just rock elitists who think that they have to be exclusively doing rock to be considered a 'real band'.

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  132. if you're not a b2uty, can you not use kikwang's picture.
    you're just bringing hate to the fandom. most of us are sane.
    and it's not like we're proud that cube buys back albums.

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  133. And they have every right to sue. Some one made a good analogy that this is pretty much like the battle between Pixar and Disney. Mnet as a parent company has become a headache for them. They took advantage of the fact that FNC is one their companies and released the DVD without FNC's permission. CNBLUE and FNC shouldn't even be sued since they did not release this DVD. And Mnet should pay CNBLUE and FNC for damages.

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  134. I don't get it. Since when did indie equal=rock band. Most of the legendary rock bands are major label bands not indie bands.

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  135. Indie doesn't equal rock. I think in Korea when they say Indie they mean non-mainstream (which is ridiculous)

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  136. Did they ever say "Hello, we are rock band CNBLUE"??? If you know the meaning of the word "band," then you would know they are a band. Not rock band, but a band nevertheless. The argument about whether they are a band or not shouldn't even be an argument because it's like saying things like, just for example, "Kim Tae Hee is not an actress" just because someone doesn't like her. Whether you think CNBLUE's music/talents are good or not, they are still a band..

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  137. lol look who's the one getting down voted...

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  138. Lol I will continue to use this picture FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER. Got a problem with it take it up with.........well no one. You can't do anything about it. lol

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  139. Are you retarded??? I don't give a shit about that. lol

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  140. Why do I get that feeling that almost all "idols" [in a band or just a group who sings/dances/raps] in Korea are hated in their own country?

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  141. cnblue is loved by k-public, we can see from their digital sales, and they have many cfs ... the problem is some k-indie fan, they think cnblue is not a band,
    yes, they are idol band ... but they talked like cnblue is fake band, band is a band.. i can't find the haters logic toward cnblue.. they can't accept cnblue is popular in Korea, Japan and other countries... well we all know k-indie band popular in their own country,

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  142. Yes!I'm not really into kpop, i'm really
    into a band (i'm living in a country that has very strong band culture) i'm sad cnblue grown up in the middle of that kind of opinions, where popularity, genre, publicity, status, "process to be a band" are like the most important things than the appreciation for the music itself.
    Mainstream music is not always bad, cause most of people listen to it and like it, and that's why we call it "mainstream" right?

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  143. CNBLUE and F.T. Island are not bands... Aren't they just idols? Don't call them bands.. They're just idols with a band concept."


    WHAT?????? FYI A group who performs on stage with their instruments ARE and WILL always be called a BAND. Please try to read your dictionary.

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  144. Do people consider the Jonas Brothers a band? Or just Disney idols...?
    They play the guitar as well...

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  145. I can see you know nothing about indie. First, indie = independent. Not necessarily means indie pop or rock. I can have a gospel band. If I make my musics and no one pays for it, it's indie. indie = not mainstream. Second, do you have any clue how small and hard and difficult is to be a indie band on Korea? Basically no one outside Hongdae gives a damn about it. Third, tell me ONE indie band that is popular in Korea. And if you say Busker Busker I won't even care to reply. Because if groups signed under Pastel Music are make fun of (for hardcore indie fans), I don't want to even imagine what is Busker Busker to them.

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  146. first time reading k-netizen's comment? omg I pity you :(

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  147. 10 cm, and standing egg are popular i think for indie, and i like their songs,,, ... i don't like busker2 type songs, and hey i'm not into k-pop too much,.. and hey i don't against indie band and idol band, or whatever band, i just like musics ... don't angry to me..

    =indie popular in their own country (is it wrong statement?), they still have fans even thought not many,

    = being indie is not only hard in KOrea, in my country also like that, in japan also like that.. indie band=poor especially when they take music as their profession but i can see they like music ,,,,

    = my problem just "I know crying nut is popular k-rock indie band", but i can't with some fans who said cnblue is not a band, just because cnblue are notindependent, indie/idol/mainstream cnblue are still a band

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  148. "The problem is that the lawsuit should be directed at Mnet "



    Yep.

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  149. "durrrr dere not a real rock band dere just idurrsss hurrrrrrr"


    They compose their own music and they play their instruments and play them well



    They are a band.
    They are a pop-rock band.

    /dealwithit


    Netizens can eat my fucking dick.

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  150. exactly..Why are this people so hard to please??Isn't music for everybody???Can't they be satisfied that CNBLUE and FTI are among the groups that try to spread Korean Music and are trying to make a difference from the usual kpop groups????They boast about their hallyu power but they are so quick to judge these groups that spread them..They are killing their own products...

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  151. they are basically limiting bands to rock when there are so many genres..

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  152. They just can't accept that cnblue is good looking, creates their own music and plays the instrument at the same time..I mean can't anybody have everything?/I think that is one of the reasons why so many haters..

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  153. Bieng a inidie band in Japan, US or Uk or some places of Europe is wayyyyyy easir than in Korea.

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  154. Agreed. Like CNBLUE was very well-known outside kpop fandom.

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  155. I'm assuming these bashful comments are left by people who claim to love bands and yet they have such a narrow view of the word. A band can belong to any genre, it does not make them any less of a band. CNBLUE is a band, they compose and play instruments. Frankly speaking, I really hate it when netizens take a successful person's words as if they were God sent. It doesn't matter what Shin Hae Chul once said, he didn't create the concept nor definition of 'band'.

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  156. I dont get Knetizens logic.when you sings,play instruments,produce your own songs= that is BAND. why would you drag the "idol"words as well and bashed the group.
    Jonas brothers is a band.
    Maroon 5 is a band
    Linkin park is a band.
    they may have different genre of songs but they CAN play instruments and sings LIVE.
    and clearly Crying nuts have a legit reason to sue, its just that they are suing the wrong side.
    i just dont get why netizens would bring the issues of fake band and idol band in this news.

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  157. I love their name crying nut. But for real CN Blue caught up in a lot of music disputes. They need to stop.

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  158. 3. [+134, -76] I just think the timing of this lawsuit is suspicious. FNC never involved themselves with the DVD release and went against Mnet when they decided to release it, even putting out notices asking people not to buy it. That's why FNC has an ill relationship with Mnet. CNBLUE doesn't perform on M! Countdown, have you noticed? That says it all, doesn't it?
    ^
    Really? CNBlue doesn't perform on MCount? But isn't FNC a subsidiary of Mnet Media? Mnet (the broadcasting channel) and FNC are both under the same big umbrella of Mnet Media.

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  159. Uh huh. A kpop fan dissing another kpop fan for being a kpop fan. Yay hypocrisy.

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  160. CNBLUE performed on Music Bank, Music Core, Show Champion, Inkigayo, Sketchbook, and some music shows as well for their comeback but not a single time on M Countdown. I found it weird too since I think I saw Mnet Media inside their albums.

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  161. Honestly, they're pretty much scandal free like they've never been hated for committing stupid actions, saying the wrong things, etc. People rarely complained about their talents but instead, often praised Yonghwa's composing skills. No one really complained about all four members being casted in dramas even tho netizens hate singers that go and act. Netizens usually complain about singing skills and whatnot but I haven't heard any about CNBLUE but lately they're getting so much hate -_- Yeah they were hated on for "I'm a Loner" but they weren't even involved in composing that song.



    There has been so much controversy lately... I guess their increased amount of
    popularity came with a price :/ I think netizens in general just like to
    find things to hate/complain about when they see a a group doing so well and being in
    the media a lot

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  162. a fly is a bird now. cynical and sarcasm are nothing when cnblue proves their music is worthy no matter how bad netizens dissing them.

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  163. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2PmbMOvuqQ

    i prefer their japanese albums much more. would you classify this song as pop rock?

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  164. This song is definitely more rock than pop :)

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  165. People don't seem to understand that indie bands are ful on struggling in korea while CN Blue is mostly a gimmick. This wouldn't be such an issue if the industry wasn't a close minded clusterfuck, but to give chances to ft island/cn blue and none to other bands is ridiculous.

    Fangirls will continue to cry without looking at the core issue. The only type of rock music accepted in korea is pop-rock and soft rock i.e. nell.

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  166. This F L Y even invited to perform in MTV UNPLUGGED Japan and maybe this is one of the reason why the so called birds are pissed because they think that this F L Y is not a legit band.

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  167. because of their Flower Boy look

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