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Wednesday, March 9, 2016

Fans upset YG is using Big Bang to sell Winner's concert


Article: Winner concert using Big Bang to sell tickets

Source: Sports World via Nate

Winner's first concert has significant leftover tickets (2,378 on the 12th, 1,091 on the 13th) despite plenty of events where tickets where practically handed out for free (article mentions in comparison to iKON who sold out their first concert). In order to sell the rest of the tickets, other events using Big Bang has been implemented like people who buy tickets will also be given a free Big Bang 2009 concert VOD.

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1. [+427, -30] What do you expect when you put a rookie group on hiatus for a year and four months and after their first album, you can't expect their popularity to pick up where it left off... they were basically gone for two years, only top level stars go on breaks for that long

2. [+422, -71] I'm talking here + crappy acting + gynecologist statement + their lack of music show promotions... they were in how many scandals already? It'd be a wonder if they were actually doing well

3. [+329, -64] I've lost complete respect for them after the gynecologist statement, so... I change the channel when I see them on TV. Why would anyone pay money to go see their concert?

4. [+34, -8] Anyone who's watched Winner TV will have realized that Yang Hyun Suk has no interest at all in Winner's type of music. You can just tell that he doesn't care for the members' style or their music... I still remember how dissatisfied he looked when Winner won on 'Win' while I remember him looking happy when Park Jin Young said he'd invest in iKON if it were up to him. Winner's the type of group that does well the more you praise them whereas iKON's the type of group that does well the more you criticize them and light a fire under them, but Yang Hyun Suk treats both groups like he would Big Bang by saying spiteful criticism so of course only iKON, the group most similar to Big Bang, will grow from it. Yang Hyun Suk needs to treat Winner differently, although I doubt he will..

5. [+33, -4] Whether YG supports them or not, their new album is a complete flop for something that took two years to produce. There was no reason that an album like that should've taken two years.

6. [+29, -3] I wonder why they felt the need to split iKON and Winner so needlessly. The public can't tell what the difference in color between their music styles are, should've just made them one rookie group and supported them all at once. Instead, both are in awkward positions now.

7. [+27, -1] What can YG do without Big Bang?

8. [+26, -3] One of the best replies make it sound like the group flopped because of the gynecologist comment but honestly that kind of stuff doesn't affect the popularity of male groups. It's not like Big Bang who wears imperial clothes and choke girls has flopped, right? Lee Byung Hun hasn't flopped, right? Im Yoon Taek who said so himself that he was an iljin hasn't flopped, right? Ryu Jun Yeol hasn't flopped after his ilbe controversy? Just a ton of shields... but female celebrities who get caught in scandals like that, they're the ones that have their careers and lives ruined over it. Winner's reason for flopping is not the gynecologist statement, they just really lack popularity.

9. [+26, -6] Such a waste of Kang Seung Yoon's talents, why'd he have to become an idol

10. [+24, -1] Their bubble has simply popped. They lost even to Girlfriend.

11. [+16, -2] Isn't it too early for a concert anyway... they've gotten a ton of antis too

12. [+15, -0] If they're a rookie group, they should be out on music shows and varieties but of course YG acts like they're some expensive top level idol group and barely puts them on varieties or music shows and instead goes on random year long hiatuses... there's no way they can get popular under conditions like that.

13. [+13, -1] If YG actually wants them to be successful, they should be treating them like a rookie group instead of all this superstar treatment. YG treats them like they're Big Bang already. Sure to the agency they might be their next hidden card but to the public, they're just another nugu group with bad songs and members with no charms. They could be giving tickets out for free and no one would still go. The members just don't have any star potential...

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111 comments:

  1. Marketing strategy. They have to sell the tickets somehow. Cant really blame them.

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    1. But when it was Ikon y'all had no problem laughing at them and calling them flops but now it's "Marketing strategy"

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    2. Are you fucking serious???
      Netizen Buzz users will never cease to shock me like...???
      When it was ikon, you hypocrites yelled favoritism and called them "flops" who can't succeed without hoping on BB's fame...
      But look at you guys now being "comprehensive" and shit...
      Y'all have some serious problems

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    3. To be honest, I was never included in that Ikon's discussion because I don't stan them, so I know almost to none any news of them. But I see where youre coming from. INetz have divided opinions, yet those opinions contradict even their own initial opinions.

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    4. Yes we can blame them. If it wasn't for their long break, they wouldn't have to do this. People seem to forget how big Winner was when they had their debut.

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    5. Lets hope Mino isnt dragged through another flop group tho

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    6. WOW just wOw !!! I remember when similar article came out with ikon name on it and you bashed them so fckin hard and called them "flops" ..now ya'll be like : oh it's okay it's just a marketing strategy!! Like how the hell is this possible ???!?!

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  2. Yg fcked up with winner.. They lost their popularity and fans bcs of his faves.. Sad

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    1. Lol dont let nb comments and articles define the reality for you ! Winner has only gained more fans with this comeback

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    2. As far as read somewhere on auction Winner has the most selling tickets this 2016 next to bigbang

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    3. Till what point are you IC gonna stop blaming everyone for Winner flopping? Lee Hi came back after 3 YEARS and she is doing great.....Winner was only gone for 1 year and 7 months.

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    4. Lol say that on how yg use jonghyun to gain attention. Sorry but Winner has the highest rating of concert sold after bb

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    5. So everything is because of ikon
      now??????
      Stop being dumb and just think before typing shit.
      Winner's stans (If you even are one cause now even random people just blurt ikon's name every fucking time cause they're petty) are getting more tragic by the day,, it's actually sad...

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    6. Lol and who said im winner fan gosh these stupid kpop fans who start attacking other people just bcs their opinion is different.. I dont even said ikon its you guys who assumed its them.. Yg has more faves .. But nevermind.. Peace

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    7. Im not a fan of both, but how is this iKON's fault?

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    8. @radka people are not dumb, nor stupid as you mentioned, you may have not mentioned iKON but you implied it, unless you are blaming BigBang for WINNER's failure, now that's another topic.

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    9. YG didn't even know it was Jong Hyun's song. How could he intentionally be using Jong Hyun, when he was even tricked???

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  3. I really wanted to weigh in on this topic

    But this update is unbearable fuck it lmao

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  4. thats what you call marketing stategy, every companies are doing that honey, its not a big deal!,

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    1. Definitely a big deal when the other acts first con sold out without the same gimmicks when during debut, Winner actually did a whole lot better than ikon.

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  5. "The public can't tell what the difference in color between their music styles are"

    lmao are the public fucking deaf?

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    1. I was thinking the same thing. Their music styles are so different.

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    2. I know? Their styles are COMPLETELY different

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  6. When your own CEO wants you to flop... seriously, YG wanted Ikon to become more popular... and here we are :/

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    1. Here we go. The self victimization again. Who are you trying to fool? what CEO would like their group to flop? Nonsense.
      So do not blame YG on the music produced BY Winner. They had GREAT promotion (promoted by Bigbang, ZionT, Dean, etc) so the "ikon had the most promotion" is getting old already.

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  7. It's okay, Inner Circle will always support your back Winner. No matter what they said. We will rise again.

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  8. So sad because Winner had so much potential to be big, they were doing so good as rookies and if only YG pushed them more, they would be more popular. They have everything, visuals, talents, good songs... such a shame.

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    1. To be real yg is ikon-biased he prefers them to be succesful over winner

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    2. Exactly. I think yg must be dissapointed when team A won

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    3. What a scum ! This is why korean ic call him such names

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    4. That's right! So far i can tell winner concept isn't that YG's style.Their debut concept isn't that YGish compare to ikon's. But i'm so freaking love their debut concept ��

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  9. Knetz just hate hate and said bad thing. Tired!!!

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    1. ???? NB only posts the negative comments. You're seriously retarded if you think this website represents all Korean netizens.

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    2. The don't go to a website where the whole point is to READ THE DAMN COMMENTS! Besides, you regard, NB clearly translates mostly the negative comments. It's obvious. You think this website represents what all Korean netizens are like? Fuckin dumbass

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  10. Funny how inner circles & knetz have been d***s towards a nugu Boygroup and are still continuing and now u see winner not hitting it off cuz they lost some fans and had some controversies

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    1. Now both have been given some negativity

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    2. You got it wrong the 12/13 concert is soldout they have the highest ratings after bigbang.they are talking bout a sudden announcement of cities that were added but some fansites are still finding tickets most of them are begging cause they cant find one it turns out that they can have it through buying bb merchandise

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  11. Why schedule at so many venues instead of just in Seoul if they cant sell out?

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    1. Its sold out, they just added more cities and they can buy the tickets if they buy some bigbang merchandise or something connected to bb. Thats why a lot are asking why the added cities dont have available tickets it turns out that you need to buy something so you can have the ticket

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    2. This article doesnt say that so whats the truth. This one says theyre giving free BB merchandise if they buy Winner concert tickets

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    3. Well because nb looooves WINNER... hehehe

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    4. Its the other way around honey. Inner circles have to buy a old bb DVD to have a chance to get a ticked. Who should be mad right now?

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  12. To be honest, I was disappointed with their new album. I expected I would get a golden song like Empty or Don't Flirt. But at least Sentimental is good

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    1. I also honestly preferred S/S 2014 than EXIT: E, but who knows there is still X, I, and T.

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    2. exit still has 2 or 3 more parts to it I think ? I'm not disappointed

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    3. But I think Pricked surpassed them all.. the song is so haunting. Can't imagine it would come from an idol group

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    4. I really liked Baby Baby but sadly it couldn't get promoted fully on music shoes b/c of the videos

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  14. Seung hun would do great in variety.

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    1. YG wants bi or bobby in variety :)

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    2. not hating but they were kind of boring on running man...

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    3. Maybe but seunghoon is still more entertaining than BI or Bobby. I stan Bobby and have to admit he is really boring when in the group and not very active. BI is a sweetheart but not variety material

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  15. I wonder why winner didnt do so much variety shows when they were rookie like iKON? Im feel so bad for them bcs they were unknown for one and half years. YG should promote they more when they were rookie in 2014. Tbh im so shocked when they lost to GFriend

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  16. if only YG didnt lock them in their basement for 1 year and a half... sighs. these kids dont deserve this! they worked hard to debut, and yet this is what YG gave them? delaying their debut date, hiatus for too long, no variety shows. basically, YG screwed up these young talented idols.

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  17. Dear NB, enough YG hate for today... go to your bed

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  18. some people dragging ikon as usual...it's seriously unnecessary...anyway, when it comes to variety shows, i think it's not only about whether YG lets them do guestings on those shows, maybe their willingness to attend is also needed...but who knows right?

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  19. It's so funny, i love both winner and ikon yet i can tell that YG is over biased to one of them.

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  20. meh. fandom is also a mess. i joined one of their fb groups. apparently you cant be winkon and cant be an innercircle if you dont hate on ikon.

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  21. The saddest part about all of this is the fact that this has happened to them because of their own CEO and his favoritism.

    Ikonics can bitch all day long about how classy Winner mvs and photoshoots look like but at the end of the day thats all they have, some nics pics and videos. YG just sticking to the concept that fits them more cause they are a classy type group or thats the concept he giving them...which quite frankly I think is doomed to fail in mamy ways. I think it puts pressure on them to always have a type of music and never step outside the box more or hey step back inside the box a little. Winner would be awesome doing some of the what people call cliché hip-hop stuff and r&b...they would kill it (and actually do it better because of how gifted they are and diverse in their creativity to make sure its different while still having that appeal) but i think they are being tied down now by their group lable/genre/color.

    Then its the promotion YG refuses to give. The level of praise and promotion they get in comparison to Ikon is evident. Even from their own label mates. Sure, when winner cameback tablo and the rest of them tweeted their support with pics of the album but in comparison to the way almost ALL of them and even YG couldn't stop talking about Ikon and how great they are is crazy. Literally sucking Ikons socks every chance they all get/got. He jumps to put Ikon as a group or some of the memebers on as many varieties as he can while throwing Winner a bone here and there to get a tiny bit of exposure.

    Its sad cause it shouldn't be like this. Winner were on top when they debuted and they should still be there and have no problem selling tickets to their concert but because they were thrown away directly after debut so that YG could put his focus into the group he so obviously favored more...this is what has happened. They are so talented and deserve so much more. I honestly cant say I would be surprised or upset if they decided to part ways with YG when the time came sooner rather than later. But at the same time as shitty as they are treated at their own agency, its the only agency where they will ever get the best treatment. Ironic isnt it?

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    1. Lmao wyd talk with FACTS not with "I think.."s and "winner are so much more talented" cuz these are personal preferences/opinions.
      First of all if they don't produce good music even the CEO can't save them.
      Secondly yall have always been whining about ikon's "great promotion" but when it was now winner cb why yall suddenly ignore the fact that they got promoted by BIGBANG, ZIONT, DEAN, LEE HI, etc.??
      Also about the color things. Another stupid thing. It was the same for YB, he made the music he wanted but YG chose what songs fit best the album. Winner be releasing what they release don't mean they make lots of different music on their own and YG may pick one of those (ofc if that was a really good one) and this is true cuz watch winner tv, YG told mino he wanted more of these kind of songs (that one he did spontaneously). Cuz who knows there's still 3 mini albums left.
      Thirdly.. why would you compare ikon's praises to winner when firstly they are two different groups with different styles and yg already said they would be the 2nd BB. You are mad at this? Well be. But arent you supporting winner cuz you like their music?
      What I'm saying is whatever you say or "think" songs don't do well if they aren't good enough. Promotion and popularity dont help as much as you think. Cuz if not why 4minute hate flopped?
      But well ofc yall cannot accept this.
      Lastly I would propose you sth. Look at how great winner is now being promoted, going to many variety shows and all... but if after all of that the songs don't do well do not blame YG again. It's how it is and believe me, a CEO does not want one of his groups/artists to not do well. This is a nonsense rationally talking.

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  22. So YG would spend BIG money to send them overseas just to film MVs and gather these big named artists like GD, Taeyang and Zion T to promote just so Winner can flop?

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    1. Investors loved winner thats why they are fuckin expensive and the 5dvds is more expensive than any album yg released and the cfs are tons that they dont need to have some concerts before but it turns out that the ceo doesnt know what business is. Who in their right mind would release a cover song before a song is released? Of course the fenius bias frog

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    2. More like YG got those big names because he himself probably saw that it was needed to help promote them if their comeback was to succeed even a little because of how poorly he handled them. In the end it still was of little help.

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    3. So YG failed but it is not his intention?

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    4. Well, Sentimental did make a MelOn roofhit, which means the cover thing worked, the public was curious about their new songs. It just they didn't like the songs, so it went down the chart. And for iKON, they only appreared on variety shows when their promotion was nearly ended :)). Not to mention not all of 7 members of iKON had chance to appear on those shows tho.
      Lastly, who in the right mind could think that YG invest a lot of money on WINNER just to make them flop?

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  23. Stop finding excuses- the reason why they don't do well is their boring music..Lee Hi had a 3 year hiatus but she is doing so well without promo except a few teasers(don't bring the excuse of she is a girl more public friendly yada yada..)

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    1. But she is more public friendly and we all know ballads do well in sk even if they sound like any old other one thats been released a million times. While quite frankly I found her mini (except possibly two songs) boring and same ole same ole from her and yes, it is cause shes a girl. Its not excuses its opinion and kinda evident. YG messed up Winner. While their music is boring to you its not to others and has gotten them a lot of international attention. YG so focused on his hiphop style and making Ikon the next BB2.0 that he failed to notice that he has another golden group that he could really profit off of as well.

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    2. Funny because lee hi's title track is very very similar to some of winner's songs.

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    3. But she's a female artist.. boy groups dont do well on charts unless you're big bang with tons of fangirls and fanboys and a very wide age range fandom and of course exo with hundreds of thousands of dedicated fangirls.. lee hi is very established, she was on kpop star season 1, the first season so of course all of them in that show became popular.. there's a lot more but i'm kinda tired already lol...

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    4. winner's songs are actually public friendly well at least from my observation because even my nonkpopfan classmates likes their songs

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    5. Lol. ^^^^ no idea wtf you're talking about. Her recent album is completely different than her other albums. You're just finding a reason to counter the original post. Her album has 5 songs and you said you liked 2. Lol...means you possibly liked 40% of them album. Kinda evident? Lol your evident us based on opinion therefore it cannot count as evidence. Gtfo

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    6. ok, that's ur OPINION but DON'T start unnecessary fanwars by dragging Hayi into this !!! if talking abt boring, what can be more boring than the repetitive mainstream edm/hephap in kpop ?! LOL ~ at least Winner is creating their own style by trying the new genre, blue & rock ! Also what makes Winner more captivating is they know how to fully utilize EACH member's vocal, NO leftover in group !

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  24. but winner didn't flop they are selling out stadiums way before the name Big Bang was even put on there doing fine please don't only look on this site for information

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  25. "Winner's the type of group that does well the more you praise them whereas iKON's the type of group that does well the more you criticize them and light a fire under them, but Yang Hyun Suk treats both groups like he would Big Bang by saying spiteful criticism so of course only iKON, the group most similar to Big Bang, will grow from it. Yang Hyun Suk needs to treat Winner differently, although I doubt he will.."

    Interesting...So who should change? Winner's attitude or YG's treatment?

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    1. Either YG treats WINNER like babies or WINNER mans up and accept the challenge. Id rather the latter

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  26. Seriously though as a VIP, all of you, Winner, iKON, YGE, iKONICS and Innercircles, get your shit and sort this out for BIGBANG's sake!!! BIGBANG has nonstop schedules. You think they will rest after Final in Seoul?!! No. To sustain ya'll, BIGBANG has a packed schedule in China and Japan for fanmeetings. If you all get your acts together, maybe YGE would instead release our much awaited full MADE album already instead of milking more money from BIGBANG and VIPs!!! Like start with working together and enough with the fanwars. Youre all adults, grow up!

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    1. Direct it to yg, you are screamin at the wrong people. He is the only one who cant get it together. Winner has fans that they can "milk" so they arent "milking" bb nor vips. Idk whats going through ygs head, he just needs so promote

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  27. poor winner. I blame yang hyun suck for that x(

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  28. But iKON only has 2 "hip-hop" songs in their debut album Rhythm Ta and Anthem(sub-unit)������

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  29. YG has fucked that group since WIN. He obviously wanted ikon more but maybe he had second thoughts discarding them since the individual members have potential. With Winner, YG always seem to fall short on something. The group looks promising & each member stands out. Music's good too. Idk what's wrong. It's so hard to stan both groups too. Both fandoms are messy. I'm blaming this on YG frog. Anyway, the Seoul concert was sold out so this is about the added venues right?

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  30. Im an Incle and I would like to say YG fucked up. It is obvious that he holds no interest in WINNER but he is keeping them around because they won. Also they bring in money, but if he could have gone back to win to change the voting system he would change it. When WINNER debuted he was asked an in interview about similarities between WINNER & bb and all he said was, "their tall." Also promotion wise WINNER was ripped of, they only had 1 variety appearance & fanmeet in korean and then he sent them off to Japan and china. Usually g-fans have korean translators, but we had to have Japanese and chinese translators for the rest of the year. we recently found out that variety pds had tried to reach out to WINNER to guest on their show but it was denied without WINNER even knowing it. After their Hatius took so long that they didnt want to make appearances because they just wanted to finish their album. Im really frustrated with yg, all incles are. He just doesnt want to support WINNER like he supports his other artist. Winner is still his artist and they have dreams and they should be respected. WINNER is still getting crappy promotions and yg didnt even media play about how they sold out the gymnastics stadium out, oh and by the way yg added more cities but he hasnt evenedit played about it so how the hell does he want them to sell those cities out. WINNER indeed lost fans during their Hatius, when they debuted they sold out they gymnasium stadium and it wasnt even a concert but the only fanmeet they had in korea. But during this comeback they did gain fans but its sad they lost fans. Yg looks at invles like idiots & money machines, we only had 1 album, but we had 5 dvds and our merchandise exceeded bigbangs at one point. Not even bb nor 2ne1 have that many DVDs nor does 2ne1 have that much merchandise. YG IS WINNERS BIGGEST ANTI

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  31. If only others will mind their own business... I'm a hardcore VIP but I don't see anything wrong about this.. wether its "buy dvd first then buy ticket" or "buy ticket free dvd".. its marketing and the dvd is soooo 2009 which means old stocks.. if you're not even a fan why would you even kill time and spazz about something you dont even like.. i dont like lets say bts (im sorry) but i dont go on their articles, hate on them or even waste the few brain cells left just to analyze things about them... YG clearly f*cked up Winner but as an Inner Circle, should it stop me from supporting them? NO! And I looove their new album.. it is soooo WINNER.. i dont care if they flopped as long as I can hear their music again..

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  32. Seriously == if YG really want to use BB, why not giveaway MADE album instead~it seems more like YG is trying to clear the OLD dvds of BB

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  33. 13. [+13, -1] If YG actually wants them to be successful, they should be treating them like a rookie group instead of all this superstar treatment. YG treats them like they're Big Bang already. Sure to the agency they might be their next hidden card but to the public, they're just another nugu group with bad songs and members with no charms. They could be giving tickets out for free and no one would still go. The members just don't have any star potential...

    The truth is here.

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    1. Some of it is true, but the members have so much charm & they all stand out and their music is loved by many. They have star potential. The commenter is clearly just hating, these boys already sold out the gymnastics stadium without promotion.

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  34. Netizenbuzz!!!! Change the layout please. I want the disqus back

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  35. 12. [+15, -0] If they're a rookie group, they should be out on music shows and varieties but of course YG acts like they're some expensive top level idol group and barely puts them on varieties or music shows and instead goes on random year long hiatuses... there's no way they can get popular under conditions like that.

    This tbh

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  36. one upvote from me for comment number 8.

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  37. Hope winner do the best fot EXIT: X I T so their holy ICs cant blame ikon anymore

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    1. Hopefully, so ics will stop talking shit about winner in the dungeon for 1,..years, their charts isn't good&flop, and the mostimportant is stop dragging+blaming ikon

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    2. They even lose from gfriend what a mess. IC claimed they were national boygroup and most waited group bcs people want them. Tsk after winner appeared then whats going on? Haha

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  38. I wish that yg treated winner and ikon the way he did for bigbang : they need to go on a lot of variety shows to get them known and not living of the name of yg...
    These guys should be really really grateful to bigbang... and yg too...

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  39. Why are they blame on ikon again. YHS is producer meanwhile YMS do promotion and marketing strategy. Group decide to focus what kind album they can produce is important whether after long hiatus or not as long as they has produce good song and public can accept it and like it, surely people will automatic support them by buy their album/song, streaming their song, even attend their concert. Let me say EXIT: E album has decrease quality compare to SS 2014 album then flop on chart

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  40. Those who buy winner tickets will get BB VOD(2009 concert) ? Someone explain me how is that using BB to sell winner tickets? You can just buy BB DVD if u don't intend to watch the concert.

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  41. This Sport news need to stop talking shit about YG or his artists

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  42. They should move WINNER to Tablo's label. Technically they'll still be under YG but it would fit their music style. Tablo would should them more love too. Ever since watching WIN I always felt like I could feel YG'S lack of love for them.

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  43. With groups that do unique or non-generic concepts like winner, they have to work on being remembered, whether that's through a catchy song or etc. The thing with Winner is that their debut songs were well received in my opinion by the public but they're still rookies so you have to be everywhere in order to be remembered. A catchy song is good but you'll become a one-hit wonder. By YG keeping them in a dungeon for a year and some change, they didn't get a enough time to stick their images into the public's head. With IKON (and I love them to) they had a comeback after comeback with catchy songs. YG f'ed Winner over with his favoritism and it's annoying.

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  44. If I were rich, and I were to invest my money in Korean entertainment I would stay away from YG. Not only is YG full of failed artists and groups ( hello? 2NE1? ) their only revenue comes from bigbang and those boys have been vocal about their lack of desire to do bigbang for much longer

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  45. Ikon always gets blamed for everything. Their first concert was just after debut. They held it when Ikon just released Rhythm Ta and Airplane. Ikon sold out their first concert well before they went on any variety shows.

    It was only later after they released the second half of their Welcome Back album that they went on RM and Sugarman. And all their concerts have been sold out since.

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    1. We blamed yg. We love and support ikon too. Don't think like that please.
      Ikon had mix&macth after win and before their debut so people will recognize them more.
      It's my opinion.

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  46. When they were still rookies, YG should promote them more to gain more fans and create a big fandom first. But YG let them hiatus for almost 2 years without promotion even in variety show. YG should do the same treatment as he did to ikon,but he didnt. Now maybe ikon has more fans than winner..

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  47. Why dont winner just promote under highgrnd? I think they would be a good fit there...

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  48. "If they're a rookie group, they should be out on music shows and varieties but of course YG acts like they're some expensive top level idol group and barely puts them on varieties or music shows and instead goes on random year long hiatuses... there's no way they can get popular under conditions like that."

    The only comment that makes sense.

    The other one saying winner is a group without charm is ridiculous. They are all charmful especially lee seunghoon and mino are variety show material but there isn't one variety show they appeared other than weekly idol. Seunghoon himself said he wished to be on a variety. Yg doesn't let them bcs they are focused on music? Please. They are not Big Bang and for the public to know them they need to appear on TV just like all the other rookie idol groups. They are nothing else but a rookie idol group. I already had this discussion somewhere and people were but yg is music focued bla bla. Number one thing in this business is lik eabilty. If people don't see you they won't care about your music either. Big Bang were on plenty of varieties themselves. They didn't become bb from one day to the other. Maybe yg foegets that but ikon and winner are not artists and not bb they have a long way to go

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  49. Let winner and ikon more screen on TV
    full promotion on music show, variety show, radio etc

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