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Friday, April 24, 2015

[Pann] Tao isn't being bullied


Pann: Tao's being bullied?

(Tons of gifs and pictures in the source post)

1. [+78, -5] Antis seem to be putting together as much malicious rumors as they can to bring down the group's image but there is no EXO member who would do any acts of bullying. You can see how nice the members are to the point of being foolish with the two members who have already left.

2. [+73, -5] (Excerpt from an interview where Tao talks about being close with Baekhyun and nicknaming him 'Sogogi'/beef)

3. [+71, -5] The two Sogogis are close

4. [+30, -0] Tao pulled off a lot of harsh pranks too... I don't know why these bullying rumors came out. They've always fooled around like this.

5. [+25, -1] Yup
The truth isn't only what you see

6. [+20, -0]

7. [+19, -1] Their friendship might end soon so please do not distort it from anything less than the truth.

8. [+19, -0] I hope the journalist who wrote about Tao's bullying will write an apology.. She completely misunderstood the situation.

9. [+17, -0] Tao's a kid who cried about missing the K members when M was away promoting in Korea.

10. [+17, -0] One of my biggest reasons I became an EXO fan is because they're all so innocent and nice... it's like seeing a bunch of little kids.. How dare you make them into bullies and victims..

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502 comments:

  1. Tao is cute. I like him

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  2. If tao was being bullied..I don't know what you will say about suho. They insult each others lol

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  3. This is like watching a tenis game... But actually fun to watch http://arcadey.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Orange-Caramel-Gif.gif

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  4. Its not always about bullying between the members, it comes down to the companies treatment at least in this case. Its no coincidence that only chinese members are leaving.

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  5. So boys will be boys? Is that so hard of a concept?

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  6. Tao and Baekhyun have a mutual bullying relationship

    https://33.media.tumblr.com/51cf0a3f2e32ba96699ef2334058d4e8/tumblr_n020kpbupy1syrz8to1_500.gif

    https://38.media.tumblr.com/588fd6692e6a85b13dfc8bd22ed8a079/tumblr_n0xm3gErQq1saq0axo1_250.gif

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  7. We'll know the truth in 20 years, after the group is over, and they start going around the variety shows, or writing the "tell all" and airing everything out. Until then, it is best to just enjoy the image that they give us. We can't know the truth and won't know for a long time yet.

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  8. I'm not a baekhyun fan because I think he's kinda rude, but for the most part, exo is a group with nice guys. (some might be nicer than others) but they have an overall friendly aura to them. I like them because when I see gifs and pictures, they all seem like just a group of friends having fun.

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  9. lol that second gif is so cute

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  10. Have strength, Exo-L...... I'm wishing the best for all the members too.

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  11. It's a possibility that it is easier for them to leave business wise. I know when I worked in a big company, they would single out those with visas first.

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  12. Honestly if your judging from that one gif where Bakehyun wiped his hands you'll know right after that Tao and Baekhyun were laughing right after.

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  13. Awww I love Baekhyun especially his personality

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  14. Round 2

    http://i.imgur.com/2NvpZSV.gif

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  15. Whether it's truth or not we can never know 100% of it but

    10. [+17, -0] One of my biggest reasons I became an EXO fan is because they're all so innocent and nice... it's like seeing a bunch of little kids.. How dare you make them into bullies and victims..


    It's kinda delusional to say they are innocent or any idol is innocent cause they must probably aren't.

    I saw pics of tao's injuries and I truly feel sorry for him, specially that poisioned ankle pic... Heart breaking

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  16. Can people like stop with the "bullying evidences" and that stupid stuff; like seriously, most "proof" is reaching.

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  17. I feel like he's the boy version of Taeyeon he sometimes says really stupid things and does offensive things but has a good heart.

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  18. omg too cute
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KsGGVDDtNOA/VTrDf4JlDbI/AAAAAAAA4-E/q3LNFDpsyKQ/s1600/2420cd48546218ed296532.jpeg.gif

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  19. disqus_rw5oVxADqDApril 24, 2015 at 6:36 PM

    5 comment is from chansung's twitter.

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  20. love yourself instead

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  21. that's why they're dating lmao they're actually a perfect match

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  22. Too bad the same thing didn't happen to T-ara??? Obviously there were times of them looking friendly together that were overlooked just because of using those tweets as an excuse. Perspective is important.

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  23. exactly, the Exo-K members don't yet have the kind of support from fans that JYJ had. If they leave, SM will basically end their entertainment careers in Korea. The Chinese members can at least work in their home country which is a huge market.

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  24. ?? What does that have to do with anything I said? The truth is we can't know the truth and won't know for a long time yet. Believing you have a "special insight" into idols is delusional. They give us images and illusions that we can only appreciate and love. But imagining special insight and closeness to the "real" them is delusion.

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  25. But they were slay foxes !!!!! Oppars are just being dumb you know bots will be boys ;))))))))))))

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  26. ♡doll。April 24, 2015 at 6:41 PM

    If Tao was being bullied and his dad was pulling him out.. why would he have begged to stay? People who said that obviously have never watched even a single show of theirs.

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  27. http://www.quickmeme.com/img/5c/5c23b45a39cb71879f3f8bd6c2b844a4c49997a82caab25f1bb8b6461a80ea21.jpg

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  28. Riyadh Prawiryo AttApril 24, 2015 at 6:42 PM

    So cute hahaha, even me and friend doing like that too. Bullying each other just for fun

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  29. http://fimg2.pann.com/new/download.jsp?FileID=30766758

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  30. 1. [+78, -5] Antis seem to be putting together as much malicious rumors as they can to bring down the group's image but there is no EXO member who would do any acts of bullying. You can see how nice the members are to the point of being foolish with the two members who have already left.

    that's all hater will just hate and make other people hating .......

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  31. seriously people should be careful with what the say and for the first time im pointing at inetz not knetz
    because its inetz, who wish they could turn back time and make everything right regarding T-ARA and now they are doing the exact sam shit all over again if you look at the other "Tao is being bullied" article on NB

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  32. lol..ok i just lost 1 minute of my life with this thing ^^

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  33. those netizens and ppl here *i saw bunch of ppl seems to accuse a lot things* need to play bad harder next time because you can fool the non-fans but not the EXOLs.


    You have lies, we have evidences

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  34. The problems the boys have with the company don't need to extend to the members they work with.

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  35. Time to watch Lipstick again, my God that was an adorable MV

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  36. And byuntae. Well thats just me

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  37. #10 tbh.
    they're seriously so nice;;;;
    antis these days will do anything to bring down innocent ppl that have done no wrong.
    EXO's relationship just is like this, it showes u how close they are (ESPECIALLY Baek and Tao, those two have been calling themselves sogogi-brothers since the MAMA era lol)
    They like to mess around with each other. so if you aint a fan, then please stfu.

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  38. Nah I don't think so either

    And if he was I'm pretty sure that he could defend himself with some wushu
    http://fimg2.pann.com/new/download.jsp?FileID=30219060

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  39. dude t-ara was much worse they even shoved a rice cake down the girl's throat

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  40. IntenseFeelings_UglySobbingApril 24, 2015 at 6:53 PM

    Saying he is or isn't is just a stupid argument. No one knows their relationship personally. We just don't know.

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  41. But t-ara members bullied HY on twitter that's a fact not an assumption.

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  42. [maximum sarcasm voice] OH MY GOD, IS TAO BULLYING BAEKHYUN??//???

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  43. This is so me and my bestfriends;;

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  44. That was quick. If only this happened with T-ara, but they're female so I guess we shouldn't have expected anything like that to happen. I mean, netizen's are still trying to make Suzy being bullied happen.

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  45. Irrelevant . He wants to go back to his country and family . Be racist on Chinese on your time . Leave him alone

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  46. so cutee ><

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  47. you'll get hated here for saying that.

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  48. Lmao nobody can really ever know from the outside tbh.

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  49. what truth? the truth is..SM dont treat their artist right so they left...i think theyve made that clear.


    TAO has said multiple times that he favors Baekhyun specifically because he was there to support him as a foreign trainee in SM. He helped teach TAO korean.


    idk what you are waiting to hear...

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  50. That's not really bullying though. They were just frustrated and acted stupid. One mistake and they're branded as bullies? Come on now.

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  51. You can blame Hwayoung for milking the fame she got with the bullying scandal instead of ever clarifying it.


    Also, if it was snsd they would get the same thing because they actually have fans who can clarify

    But T-ara (like most girl groups) are more popular with the public and dont have as dedicated fanbases.

    therefore their popularity was more reliant on their image which was ruined with the scandal.

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  52. https://31.media.tumblr.com/1e5c4710205ebd9f63734064bb19c77e/tumblr_mu8ddj9hbq1rxetl7o1_500.gif

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  53. If you really hate someone your not going to be near them kpop star or not. Jessica and Taeyeon for example it was obvious there was some tension between them cameras on and off. The reason why I said that to you is because a previous article said "Baekhyun was bullying Tao" over a gif where Baekhyun wiped his hands off. Kai and D.O give off vibes that there not particularly close with anyone in Exo except a few of the members so it's not always just "scripted." I remember I saw a gif where they were literally grabbing each other's dicks at an interview if anything they seem pretty friendly with each other but SM pulled it down because it destroys their image,

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  54. Did you watched the whole tho after that they did it to Jiyeon too playfully, just like exols are defending baek, since in the video tao laughs afterward.

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  55. they pretty much already told it all... they dont like how SM treats them.


    -fin-

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  56. You mean like how Tao called out Kris????

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  57. https://33.media.tumblr.com/73536cd85df4c1706cca1be58bf22ac3/tumblr_inline_nna70oKcrp1ridpyr_500.gif

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  58. you can blame Hwayoung for never bothering to clarify and simply milking the situation for her own fame then....

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  59. Ofc I don't know their relationship but I have this one friend that i love to talk to sometimes and sometimes she is just annoying and I want to punch her in the face, we have a sort of love ~ hate thing. But we stay friends. It is possible Tao and Baekhyun have something similar? Sometimes they get along and sometimes they don't.


    But you can't really speculate anything from a bunch of gifs, as far as we know they could beating each other up at the dorms while taking shots of vodka and sacrificing goats to the chicken god.

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  60. *ahem* "We are groot."

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  61. Lol these are adorable.

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  62. http://cdn.meme.am/images/300x/1158910.jpg

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  63. Right. If you look at the tweets out of context they're not even that bad. It's like how I vent if someone doesn't pull their weight in a group project or my friend cancels plans with me. It's just unprofessional of them but they shouldn't be treated like devils for it. And this is the only actual "proof", the rest is all manipulated so ...

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  64. ahh taobaek, one of my favorite brotp's T_T

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  65. It's interesting that certain people want us to believe that this is the work of anti-fans and not the truth whereas when it was T-ara they were all guilty of bullying. There is no way of ever knowing the truth.

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  66. Who's foot is that pointy tho????

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  67. the sheer two-facedness of netizens is soul shattering

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  68. tao and baekhyun just like to tease each other,they literally tease each other evey second u never know maybe one day they will be tired of teasing each other hahaha ,i think they are having a competition lmao.one second you will see them tease each other,than you will see them hugging 10 seonds later

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  69. Because Baekhyun is meant to be """that one asshole who doesnt have a heart and doest use his brain and is supposed to be disliked"""

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  70. I love baektao, they have this cute sibling relationship where they like to annoy eachother

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  71. SmokingweedwithGDApril 24, 2015 at 7:17 PM

    Nothing says nice like a bunch of races jokes and rude behavior ❤

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  72. wasn't just that though, there're like whole compilations of the shit they did to her, it's hardly possible to say she was being treated well in my opinion......
    when it comes to exo though, there's not much to go by so i don't really believe it, but people are talking about them like they're saints which is fairly annoying considering all the shit they say/do (particularly baekhyun)

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  73. Remember when people made the same kinds of posts about T-ARA and Netizenbuzz didn't translate them because of her hateboner? LOL.

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  74. Wow hold up...Baekhyun is not an asshole..and he is love by many. ..so I don't care ...I like him , I will support him always

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  75. can non-fans stop trying to start shit now

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  76. those gifs are so cute, i want to cry 😂😂

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  77. People are in here talking aout T-ara like its EXO's fault..


    The main reason T-ara are still seen as bullies is because HWAYOUNG never cleared their name.


    Instead she took advantage of the situation for herself.


    Until Hwayoung says it didnt happen, Koreans will always have that reason to believe it did..

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  78. If you call passive-aggressive vague tweets 'bullying' then I'd really hate to see how you cope with the real world.

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  79. Did anybody else notice xiumin cute reaction? Am I the only one? Sooooo cute!

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  80. I don't get this logic? how do you know Tao really begged to stay? a lot of people are saying the dad forcing him to leave/Tao begging to stay story is a cover-up for Tao WANTING to leave, which could be because he's being bullied. (note: i don't believe that but i'm saying those 2 arguments are not mutually exclusive.)

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  81. lmao i knoww, he's also very polite but apparently people just turns blind eye whenever he's being nice.

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  82. why hasnt he released an statement saying hes leaving yet tho

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  83. Thank you for translate this article ㅠㅠ and exo-l please be strong!!!!

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  84. To be fair, she did get kicked out because of a bad management call. She
    was probably angry and decided to stick it to him and this was the best
    option.

    I blame Kim Kwang Soo for being way too trigger happy
    and turning an internal conflict into something that didn't really need
    to be this big.

    The thing is, I think Hwayoung did say that the situation wasn't that bad but netizens said she was trying to shield T-ara or something like that. Whenever a female does something there's a witch hunt, when it's a guy it's never really like that unless they're non Korean.

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  85. hes trying to defend himself? lmfao idk

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  86. dude i already said i don't believe that. but anyway the people who believe that are saying it's cause Tao is gauging the Chinese reaction and/or having second thoughts.

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  87. dear antis...

    https://33.media.tumblr.com/10b489216c0332cdb9c7cb5320623c97/tumblr_msel7cX3WI1sgja30o1_500.gif

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  88. there were rumors of tao being bullied by other exo members but no facts of sm being shit at healthcare
    smh

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  89. 😅😅😅 girl thank god you said that cuz I was ready to 👊👊👊👊 ....lol

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  90. https://33.media.tumblr.com/e1403623a39fd406f37986eacca9717c/tumblr_nn1eyoY25J1uokwfgo1_400.gif


    Satansoo bullied Baekhyun omg. Exo is bunch of bullies. *high-toned maximum sarcasm voice*

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  91. Tao is a chink . wtf . korean assholes are racist.

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  92. Girl please get some education.

    http://hyotheleader.tumblr.com/post/30319546274/rumor-vs-fact-t-ara-bullying-case-full

    All of the bullying 'proofs' debunked. She was treated just fine.

    Hwayoung was let into an already successful group with very little effort on her own part. Almost all of the members of T-ARA had been forced to perform on injuries in the past, and there were also accounts that Hwayoung was being incredibly rude to staff that day, as well. They're entitled to the opinion that she wasn't pulling her own weight or at least supporting them while they prepared for literally the biggest concert event of their lifetime.

    This is like saying Suho bullied Kris because he was upset at how he left right before their very first concert. No, he was expressing his frustration that someone would ditch them when they needed him. That is how T-ARA felt.

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  93. The bully in the cutest way possible, I wished I was bullied like that, damn, all thereal bullies are mean.

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  94. Kuck that chink out indicates the quality of korwan people

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  95. Yay for the beef brothers.

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  96. which makes you a douchebag

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  97. KKS' management made a bad situation terrible.

    But it is true that because it was a female group, people are less likely to let it go. Personally, I'm still of the opinion that the faked bullying proofs it was SONE who were afraid of T-ARA catching up to SNSD, especially with SNSD being absent constantly during 2012.

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  98. so what ?? EXO are supposed to go down the same road to make it fair ... this has nothing to do with oppars vs eonnis ... there wasn't enough proof to deem T-ara guilty but their fans turned their backs on them when they needed them most ... people persecuted them wrongly without even trying to understand, the clarifications came out too late, people tried to clarify things when the media and knetz had already branded them guilty ... I don't see why EXO-L have to sit back and watch the guys go through the same thing when we know it not the case ... yes there a video of baekhyun wiping his hand after tao touched him but there are ten video of tao pushing baekhyun away, glaring at him and hitting him... what happened to T-ara is unfair and it's sad to see what they're still going though but that makes the fandom even more determined to stop this non sense from spreading before it blows out of proportions ... so no, this is not a matter of oppa or eonni ...

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  99. ikr! its too cute 😂😂😂

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  100. Searching For FreedomApril 24, 2015 at 7:26 PM

    lol please, are you sure? if you say bad things 1 teeny bit about baekhyun or exo, tons of exo-l here will rape your ass.

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  101. Is that DO? when did he do that?

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  102. lol I hate the phrase boys will be boys because if girls do it suddenly they're evil bitches and we have to bring them down.

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  103. more taobaek love ;

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  104. Byun-tae couple, yay

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  105. No one brought more attention to EXO (K or M) than their fans themselves. Don't go blaming "non fans" for starting things when the ones who brought so much attention (and continues to do so) is their own fans: EXO fans.

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  106. Who would be saying T-ara is EXO's fault? I don't see anyone saying that, but I do see people saying that the differential treatment women get for being women is kind of unfair. Nobody's saying that's EXO's fault so.

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  107. Baekie is one of the nicest guys in exo, he's just playful amd has a childish personality to the point he can never keep his ass down, he's always moving from one member to the other to bug the shit out of them, recently his targets has been D.O and xiumin

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  108. i'm not sure, maybe at a fanmeeting in MAMA era..

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  109. lmao i laugh like mad reading this idk chinese media or haters trying soo sooo bad to ruin this lovely boys, nope they didn't bully tao but tao bully them by crying everytime bug walking infont of him, when he need to go to toilet at night or when he hungry so the older member could buy the food for him specially junmyeon and how he act weird so baek could go 'aw aw aw aw cutie don't be mad'


    bullying my ass

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  110. I don't think the point is that people are blaming fans for standing up to their group, I think the point is that the voices shouting "T-ARA is guilty" were louder than the voices shouting that "T-ARA is innocent."

    But fangirls are willing to stick by their 'oppa' no matter what he does and excuse, excuse away. Look at Kim Hyunjoong's case. He still has a legion of dedicated fans following him even after all of the proof that he beat his girlfriend. Even Jang Dongmin has a large number of people standing up for him despite saying some pretty awful stuff and a really half-assed apology.

    I don't really think Tao is being bullied (even if I think what some of the members do to him is pretty mean, he also seems to push back), but the fact that everyone is so quick to clarify this but ignore the facts laid out when it comes to T-ARA's case, and the apparent sexism issues Korea already has... yeah, I do think it has a lot to do with gender and the kind of fans a group attracts.

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  111. but the matter here is people claiming exo is bulling tao, when even tao dad said the reason tao doesn't want to leave is because he like EXO members and be part of exo

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  112. Tao was the person who introduced me to K-pop. My first bias and is still my bias so when I heard these rumours I was pissed. But I knew they had to be false because like isn't baektao are thing? Al though Baek has had his moments when hes gone a bit overboard Tao has pulled some harsh pranks too.

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  113. well this rumor only stayed on pann to begin with and it was the tweets about lacking determination by the members that really worsened the situation for t-ara.

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  114. I know, thats why i said "meant", because people always turn his jokes into some evil things satan do.

    /the love hate with xiumin and d.o are the cutest/

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  115. I almost cry reading people saying baek bullied tao when they are like this all the time, and can't believe people in china said the same about tao

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsNj5wUfq24

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  116. and d.o is always hitting baek lmfao

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  117. no he didn't actually say that it just his mouth similar with saying shut up you, darling

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  118. I believe they arent in the bffs level but there's no way to say their friendship is fake enough for the sake of public. 3 years of being in exo tells you a lot of things tbh. They reach the level of comfortness in 3 years because they meet and interact eachother everyday. I do believe some of them are closed enough to do such silly things. During my uni days, i stayed in the dorms with 4 people. It was awkward for a month but my level comfortness with ex roommates drastically changed after we started to interact and talk with eachother everyday. I know this isnt really helping either way but i dont think that people dislikes eachother will reach that same kind intimacy just how Taobaek did

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  119. The only one being bullied is Baekhyun...but it's ok because he likes it ;)

    Baekhyun: "Kyungsoo I want to disturb you forever. I will do that forever. Just hit me forever."

    https://33.media.tumblr.com/e1403623a39fd406f37986eacca9717c/tumblr_nn1eyoY25J1uokwfgo1_400.gif

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  120. "Why would he have begged to stay?"


    Why wouldn't he? Even if he were having a hard time with the other members, Tao isn't an idiot- he knows that if he leaves EXO, he won't have work to do in China. He's not like Luhan. His income would cease to exist, and if he ever enjoyed performing, he'd be kissing that goodbye, as well.


    A lot of people are willing to stay in sucky situations if it means getting something they want desperately.

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  121. the dad wrote about it by himself right? am i missing something

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  122. SM is so good in PR they remove the original artikel from nate ( real journalist who wrote that ) and this is art is from pann post ( fan who post this )

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  123. We already know how well SM can work things..thanks to the whole JYJ incidents.

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  124. Sone stand by SNSD through thick and thin, blackjacks are still defending Bom like their lives depend on it, F(x) fans swear that Sulli can never do anything wrong and they get all defensive the moment you mention her ... it's not necessarily related to gender but the kind of fans a group has ... it just happened that Queen's left T-ara when they needed them most, they eventually tried to clear things up but it was too late at the time ... but yes, I understand where you're coming from

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  125. the last one is so cute.
    baekhyun looks like a puppy trying to climb its owner 😂😂😂

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  126. OMG I love D.O. He's like the strict mother of the group

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  127. Well he is jack wonging off... Or... There is a masterbation joke in there somewhere.

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  128. OMG Tao in the second gif so hot

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  129. Thank you! I hope people can now shut the hell up and stop using the past article as an excuse to hate on Baekhyun. Both of them are so cute tbh.

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  130. It's not what smarts can do anything with it; it's what their powerful influence got to do with it.

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  131. Lmao right? People srsly lol but i dont care. I love Baekhyun too.

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  132. what are you talking about. the original article is still posted on nate. it was a pann, not a real article.
    SM never takes action for their artists lol... except Sulli.

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  133. Nah it is not always the exo-ls who start shit.

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  134. she didnt mean the actual subtitles, she's talking about the gif itself darling

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  135. Honestly who knows what's even going on anymore? Probably not anyone. None of us do. SM surely doesn't. EXO probably doesn't. Tao is probably confused as fuck himself.

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  136. OMG Irene is so cute!

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  137. Yes he is :) btw i like your DP is he one of the triplets? Daehan?

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  138. QUEEN'S didn't really leave, though. Their fandom is still incredibly strong. The public, however, did leave T-ARA, and the more casual fans abandoned them.

    Basically, anti-fans' voices drowned out the fan's voices.

    EXO enjoys a ridiculously large and loud fanbase, anything negative gets drowned out, regardless of whether or not it's true.

    Your examples aren't that great, though- you listed 3 groups from the largest companies with the most money for mediaplay and attempting to bury things. T-ARA is a group from a small company with less money, and their fanbase was never as big to begin with; and then you have Blackjacks and SONE piggybacking on the T-ARA hate because, at one point in 2011/2012, T-ARA were coming to snatch their weaves. (SONE is a bad example anyway considering they'll turn on nonbias members at the drop of a pin. See: K-SONE treatment of Jessica since the other members kicked her out.)

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  139. Their friendship might end soon so please do not distort it from anything less than the truth
    this is so sad

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  140. Stretching much?T-ara would have never been able to catch up to SNSD. There was still a pretty significant popularity difference between the two. There sales and accomplishments never matched up to SNSD's even when they were popular.

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  141. Searching For FreedomApril 24, 2015 at 7:51 PM

    there is a difference between 2 or 3 people starting shit and hundred of defenders come and those hundred people saying that there are two thousands people hating exo XD

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  142. It's the metaphor picture used to explain although a person is not holding anything visible that'll be hurtful, "he" can use another way to fight of the opponent. So people are sneaky, so be careful how you look at things.. It ultimately emphasizes: Perspective.

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  143. I know and it's so unfair that they always have to be so careful of every little thing they will say or do, I mean every idol-celebrity has to but if we put it on a scale from 1 to 10 EXO must be a 50 or smth. It's like ''everybody'' has their eyes on them waiting for the tiniest mistake they can make.
    We can say that's the prize of being so popular but damn they are humans, I understand some of them can be rude with each other sometimes but they just can't be perfect.

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  144. Tao hasn't come forward explaining it didn't happen either and yet people have already exonerated EXO. And I don't think Tao is being bullied, but there's more evidence of that then there ever was in the T-ara incident.

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  145. Exactly. But people outside the fandom obviously wont care about looking at the 1264846 gifs posted where they were both laughing and hugging, they just looked at that one gif where Baek and Tao did not crack a smile(which they did after actually but it was not in the gif) and jumped in the hate bandwagon. Wtf.

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  146. Whut lmao.
    My bae Jong Suk did not deserve that type of non sense comment.

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  147. T-ara also shaded her on social media which is what started the whole thing. it was made worse when outsiders who knew T-ara kept defending her. I can tell Hwayoung was a pain, they didn't have to like her.

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  148. XD still nah. Not just 2 or 3 people start shit with EXO and exo-ls. Imma use this example: so when EXO announced their upcoming TD concerts, people from other fandoms started to attack eco and the fans calling us "disrespectful to seniors" when all we were doing is celebrate with the announcement.. and then these peope left and right startedo pop up and wish death upon exo.. That happens a lot but people will just believe that exo-ls are always the bad guys anyways because that seems to be the norm in the kpop fandom lmao.

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  149. Glad I didn't sort of live following DS when it was aired. Imagine the rage of seeing a drama that has potential to be so amazing into a piece of crap in 20 episodes.

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  150. Aww... My Jongbin feels.

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  151. 10. One of my biggest reasons I became an EXO fan is because they're all so innocent and nice... It's like seeing a bunch of little kids.. How dare you make them into bullies and victims.

    LOL just a few days ago, knetz were marking him a traitor and calling him out for going around in crutches without a cast to gain pity.

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  152. In every group, there's that one member who likes messing with his members, but so far, Baekhyun's the only one who's considered rude. xD

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  153. But that was something that they did to themselves. If Exo tweeted that Tao was lacking in determination because of his foot, all of you would be singing a different tune.

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  154. Now I know why they are in "SM"

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  155. T-ARA vastly outsold anything SNSD did in 2010 with Roly Poly, Lovey Dovey in 2011 was a smash, and their sales were only growing. Their numbers were reaching past 70,000 units (Funky Town) before the scandal hit in 2012. They were growing, and SNSD has been on the decline. They spent no time in Korea while T-ARA kept up a string of public-friendly hits that did well digitally (meaning it was more than just their fanbase buying the album).

    Basically, they were what Girl's Day is now- a trending group that could take the NGG title if SNSD continues releasing songs that aren't popular with the public and keep losing fans to newer, fresher groups that actually promote in their home country rather than staying only where the money is. Even the largest fanbase won't account for the loss of love from the general public.

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  156. yet his members are always praising him and calling him the mood maker though

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  157. Searching For FreedomApril 24, 2015 at 8:03 PM

    it cant be helped since exo-l like to shit on other fandoms and when all fandom attack them back dont act like victim ^^

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  158. And your wish is granted.
    But Lee Kang Too :(

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  159. Damn people are smart at analyzing. Honestly i could not have gotten that :D

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  160. its not the same knets.. also TAO still has a lot of support from K-fans.
    the opinions are mixed right now.
    if u look on Pann choa there are kfans still support him

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  161. http://fimg2.pann.com/new/download.jsp?FileID=30766758

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  162. yes the first post about tao leaving has surprising supporting messages, is different people definitely

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  163. Well dear I am not acting as a victim at all :) but i am saying thatexo fans arent always the ones who start shit up. "All fandom attack them back" yeah lol u said it yourself.. who won't get defensive when everyone joins forces and attack a group of people anyways? But whatever I guess. it is always exo-ls who start shit i guess lmao

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  164. ICWUDT

    http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131014001351/epicrapbattlesofhistory/images/3/34/HAPPY.gif

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  165. IntenseFeelings_UglySobbingApril 24, 2015 at 8:12 PM

    http://i.imgur.com/kZavo.gif

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  166. It's just a metaphor stating that you need to see the bigger picture instead of what's simply shown to you.

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  167. I see your point.

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  168. I learned to look at situations with all possible perspectives as well as possible factors that could alter an outcome. School, experiences and Kdramas helped in that.

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  169. Park Min HYUNG?
    http://oi61.tinypic.com/3328hhs.jpg

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  170. is the hate boner for baekhyun, I don't see much people shitting on d.o when that was even more rude, not that I believe kyungsoo is a bully, but just an example of how selective people is

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  171. When I looked at the article I was like "???"
    The photo is like from a year ago and I was like, "?????"

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  172. How about the real Healer to heal you? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
    http://oi57.tinypic.com/2055q1u.jpg

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  173. Yassss i agree!

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  174. 13? Not sure though, it's a guess.

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  175. it's not exo members who are bullies and unfair it's sm the real reason they leave. I doubt Tao or anybody in that group would let themselves be bullied.

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  176. The closest you'll get Tao to admit he was bullied if any of the members shove a bug in his face.

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  177. fcuk you lee minho

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  178. I just found out that Angry Mom will have 16 episodes.
    I've only seen reviews so far and the critics rave are intriguing, so I decide to pick this drama on my 'to watch' list.
    So, I hope Angry Mom will go with a way that is as strong as how it began. :D

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  179. IntenseFeelings_UglySobbingApril 24, 2015 at 8:35 PM

    Yep, pretty much that.

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  180. those are in front of camera tho...who knows behind close door,lol

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  181. IntenseFeelings_UglySobbingApril 24, 2015 at 8:36 PM

    Even then we can't prove they do or don't have a good relationship. Only they know.

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  182. "T-ARA vastly outsold anything SNSD did in 2010"? Except they probably didn't, apart from digital sales. And 70,000 units is such a small number for any SM group so i'm not sure why that was even brought up.

    Where did your opinion that it was sones' spreading the rumors derive from? And are you saying that with confidence? Was there evidence at all or did you think that because you thought sones felt threatened by T-ara's success? The whole bullying issue started when the girls themselves posted shady stuff on their twitter leading people to think that they are upset with Hwayoung. Then the company spoke up and explained that their accounts were hacked. Things escalated very quickly from there with the public turning against them and the 'hacking' excuse was overthrown. Kpop almost came to a standstill for at least two weeks with everyone's eyes on them. Saying it's started by another fandom is, a bit of a stretch. T-ara was strong in digital sales because of their well-received songs and certainly one of the top girl groups, but they are nowhere near the popularity of snsd back then, with the ridiculous success of The Boys album sales which i made a check and it was near end of 2011. GG was at their peak in terms of album sales and popularity (sans Gee era). "They were growing, and SNSD has been on the decline"? Erm hell no. 2012 was SNSD's year before T-ara's scandal broke out and i'm not sure you can dispute that.

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  183. http://oi57.tinypic.com/1pcy10.jpg

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  184. Didn't G.O do the same thing when Joon was leaving and no one said anything? What about when Jessica was kicked out? People get frustrated over things in life and because we live in a social media world people also think they should share these frustrations with the rest of the world.

    I'm not saying that what T-ara, minus Qri, did wasn't unprofessional. It was and they should have remembered their positions and not posted stupid things like that. But they didn't, but to say that it's bullying is stretching things.


    Whenever you're in a stressful situation and in a group environment things are not always going to be rainbows and sunshine. Friends will fight, families will fight, but they eventually make up. Unfortunately that didn't happen here since the CEO thought he should just kick her out.

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  185. No two straight man do such touchy touchy stuff with another friend. So no, he is not being bullied, just being gay (which is what SM wanted them to do to get more girl fans).

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  186. Praying so hard that in the future, someone will pair up LJS & KSR as leads in a drama. I need a redemption to 20 hours I have spent (wasted?) on Doctor Stranger.

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  187. That's true but I think it's safe to assume they don't hate each other.

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  188. IM NOT EVEN A VIP BUT GOD THIS IS HEAVEN-SENT

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  189. [+427, -23] I honestly think WG could promote without Sunye..

    They could do this but wont Sunye still get paid for doing nothing?

    Or
    They could make a sub group and leave Sunye out of it

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  190. Omg! Yes! I watched this show the week I got my wisdom teeth out I couldn't stop smiling which made my pain worse! Lol! But this show was AMAZING!

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  191. im always bothered that people focus on his 'i want to tease the hell out of you right now because yolo' only but NEVER see all the things he does for his members.


    Baekhyun loves EXO with all his being. He is a little shit yes but members love him nonetheless.

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  192. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KsGGVDDtNOA/VTrDf4JlDbI/AAAAAAAA4-E/q3LNFDpsyKQ/s1600/2420cd48546218ed296532.jpeg.gif



    Tao is such a cute little shit dear god what am I going to do with him?!

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  193. It is got delated already and it's not pann but from original news nate

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