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[Cafe] Additional rumors posted by those involved with Seo Jisoo
I noticed people kept linking a compilation post from a popular cafe and decided to translate some of the extra stuff that I missed in my original post. Once again, it will be summary style and I'll selectively translate accounts from the alleged victims. All screencaps of translated KakaoTalk conversations can be found in the original post.
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Post from victim: "Even as I write this post, I'm still terrified of everything that's happened but I know that I'll feel so sorry for myself and regret it if I let this be buried. Maybe you (referring to Jisoo) were able to act so easily because you knew none of this would get out in the world since you were dating a girl.
We were lovers and she always asked me for sex and to take pictures of the act. Whenever I said I did not want to, she'd get mad at me and accuse me of not loving her and verbally abuse me sexually (she'd say things like "I'll fuck you with your legs spread open prettily, you know you want it"). When I asked to break up, she told her friends and invited me into a group chat with them. In a chat room with no one on my side, they'd talk down about my looks and she'd tell in explicit detail about our sex life, embarrassing me to no end.
If there had only been an apology, and if she had only kept the issue between me and her, I could've kept quiet and never revealed all of this to the world. But like always, she'd use her friends to message me, telling them to tell me that she's sorry and that I should forgive her. She'd then threaten to sue me if I posted anything about this. She kept telling me that we used to be good together, asking me to protect her.
I'm so angered. I read posts accusing other victims of there being a lack of evidence. I understand that this is all terrifying and hard to believe. But to ask me of proof of sexual harassment? I am living proof of it. I'm sorry that I couldn't come forward earlier because of legal threats. As always, the final judgment will be left to you but here's proof of shipping of the boxes we had delivered to each other while we were still dating."
(Postage sent by Seo Ji Soo *her phone number and address*)
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Victim who later deleted her post but the phone number she provides as evidence aligns with the phone number listed in the picture provided above):
"I went on a date with her and she asked if she could finger me while we were at a cafe. ㅋㅋㅋㅋ She liked sexual things and did a lot of other bad things. I still remember Seo Jisoo so vividly. In 2012, the last four digits of her number was 3083, right? ㅋㅋ How am I able to provide evidence of all the sexual things she did and said? It's not like I would've recorded anything back then. I obviously liked her then so I stayed quiet."
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Victim who provided a picture Seo Jisoo sent her in 2012 (another picture of her in underwear was excluded because her face wasn't shown):
"I find it ridiculous that she's debuting now. I remember she'd show me her breasts and ask if it made me horny. She also talked about how her boyfriend's dick was so small and how she liked sleeping with boys but also liked torturing girls so she couldn't stop dating girls either."
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A former Woollim trainee provided proof of Seo Jisoo's 2013 winter Kakao Talk profile and phone number along with a picture she took while training with her in Woollim. She confirmed that while Seo Jisoo was dating a male from her dance academy, she was also dating one of the victims above. Woollim apparently knew about this but let it go while other trainees who were found to have boyfriends were cut.
The victim who provided all of the first release of proof pictures (personal selcas, Woollim training pictures) also provided Seo Jisoo's number as proof that aligned with the number provided by the Woollim trainee (last four digits 9411).
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A victim provided KakaoTalk captures of Jisoo texting her her feelings around November~December 2013. (TN: The watermark makes it difficult for me to make out some words)
Jisoo: But the story's out now. I changed my phone number and (they?) told me not to spread the pictures or make any contact with anyone other than my family.
Jisoo: I'm so scared
Jisoo: that there will come a day that I can't hold my head up to the people of the world
Jisoo: I'm too scared to even know where to begin
Jisoo: telling the company people up to what part is true
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Around September 2012, one of Seo Jisoo's exgirlfriends posted on a cafe claiming to have dated her and that she had bit her finger while sleeping. Being a pianist, she claimed that the act was not only perverted but damaging to her.
Woollim and Seo Jisoo apparently threatened to sue her and demanded that she stop posting about her on the cafe. The person provided the Kakao Talk conversation that Seo Jisoo sent her threatening to sue her and demanding to know her current address unless she denied the story.
She claimed that Woollim demanded that she never talk about this again and revealed that Woollim knew about Seo Jisoo's rumors but that they were extremely fond of her and kept her from leaving the company three times. Seo Jisoo was also apparently extremely manipulative, lying to the company that she was being bullied by the other trainees and crying whenever her rumors were brought up.
The same person provided the following additional account to the cafe owner in a Kakao Talk conversation:
"I met with Jisoo and someone else and slept together in a motel. She, of course, said many sexual things, but the things going around now were said in a group conversation. At the motel, she said things like 'I'm a virgin so take my virginity' and asked me to massage her thighs after she came out in just a gown from the shower. She let her shower gown spread open to expose her breasts and later left with the third person to her house.
She'd always say things like 'Fuck me, I'm a virgin' or 'I'm not a virgin in the ass' and she'd always send us pictures of her adult toys. I have a picture she sent me of her in a thong but I don't have it anymore. Anyway, I contacted you because I'm not a victim but I thought my story would help..."
She provided a picture she took with Seo Jisoo at a cafe as her proof.
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Post from victim: "Even as I write this post, I'm still terrified of everything that's happened but I know that I'll feel so sorry for myself and regret it if I let this be buried. Maybe you (referring to Jisoo) were able to act so easily because you knew none of this would get out in the world since you were dating a girl.
We were lovers and she always asked me for sex and to take pictures of the act. Whenever I said I did not want to, she'd get mad at me and accuse me of not loving her and verbally abuse me sexually (she'd say things like "I'll fuck you with your legs spread open prettily, you know you want it"). When I asked to break up, she told her friends and invited me into a group chat with them. In a chat room with no one on my side, they'd talk down about my looks and she'd tell in explicit detail about our sex life, embarrassing me to no end.
If there had only been an apology, and if she had only kept the issue between me and her, I could've kept quiet and never revealed all of this to the world. But like always, she'd use her friends to message me, telling them to tell me that she's sorry and that I should forgive her. She'd then threaten to sue me if I posted anything about this. She kept telling me that we used to be good together, asking me to protect her.
I'm so angered. I read posts accusing other victims of there being a lack of evidence. I understand that this is all terrifying and hard to believe. But to ask me of proof of sexual harassment? I am living proof of it. I'm sorry that I couldn't come forward earlier because of legal threats. As always, the final judgment will be left to you but here's proof of shipping of the boxes we had delivered to each other while we were still dating."
(Postage sent by Seo Ji Soo *her phone number and address*)
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Victim who later deleted her post but the phone number she provides as evidence aligns with the phone number listed in the picture provided above):
"I went on a date with her and she asked if she could finger me while we were at a cafe. ㅋㅋㅋㅋ She liked sexual things and did a lot of other bad things. I still remember Seo Jisoo so vividly. In 2012, the last four digits of her number was 3083, right? ㅋㅋ How am I able to provide evidence of all the sexual things she did and said? It's not like I would've recorded anything back then. I obviously liked her then so I stayed quiet."
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Victim who provided a picture Seo Jisoo sent her in 2012 (another picture of her in underwear was excluded because her face wasn't shown):
"I find it ridiculous that she's debuting now. I remember she'd show me her breasts and ask if it made me horny. She also talked about how her boyfriend's dick was so small and how she liked sleeping with boys but also liked torturing girls so she couldn't stop dating girls either."
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A former Woollim trainee provided proof of Seo Jisoo's 2013 winter Kakao Talk profile and phone number along with a picture she took while training with her in Woollim. She confirmed that while Seo Jisoo was dating a male from her dance academy, she was also dating one of the victims above. Woollim apparently knew about this but let it go while other trainees who were found to have boyfriends were cut.
The victim who provided all of the first release of proof pictures (personal selcas, Woollim training pictures) also provided Seo Jisoo's number as proof that aligned with the number provided by the Woollim trainee (last four digits 9411).
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A victim provided KakaoTalk captures of Jisoo texting her her feelings around November~December 2013. (TN: The watermark makes it difficult for me to make out some words)
Jisoo: But the story's out now. I changed my phone number and (they?) told me not to spread the pictures or make any contact with anyone other than my family.
Jisoo: I'm so scared
Jisoo: that there will come a day that I can't hold my head up to the people of the world
Jisoo: I'm too scared to even know where to begin
Jisoo: telling the company people up to what part is true
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Around September 2012, one of Seo Jisoo's exgirlfriends posted on a cafe claiming to have dated her and that she had bit her finger while sleeping. Being a pianist, she claimed that the act was not only perverted but damaging to her.
Woollim and Seo Jisoo apparently threatened to sue her and demanded that she stop posting about her on the cafe. The person provided the Kakao Talk conversation that Seo Jisoo sent her threatening to sue her and demanding to know her current address unless she denied the story.
She claimed that Woollim demanded that she never talk about this again and revealed that Woollim knew about Seo Jisoo's rumors but that they were extremely fond of her and kept her from leaving the company three times. Seo Jisoo was also apparently extremely manipulative, lying to the company that she was being bullied by the other trainees and crying whenever her rumors were brought up.
The same person provided the following additional account to the cafe owner in a Kakao Talk conversation:
"I met with Jisoo and someone else and slept together in a motel. She, of course, said many sexual things, but the things going around now were said in a group conversation. At the motel, she said things like 'I'm a virgin so take my virginity' and asked me to massage her thighs after she came out in just a gown from the shower. She let her shower gown spread open to expose her breasts and later left with the third person to her house.
She'd always say things like 'Fuck me, I'm a virgin' or 'I'm not a virgin in the ass' and she'd always send us pictures of her adult toys. I have a picture she sent me of her in a thong but I don't have it anymore. Anyway, I contacted you because I'm not a victim but I thought my story would help..."
She provided a picture she took with Seo Jisoo at a cafe as her proof.
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