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Saturday, November 16, 2013

Kahi sheds tears over the hardships of being the leader


Article: Kahi sobs "I felt the most bad for myself in After School"

Source: Newsen via Nate

"I was in charge of the members of After School. Because I was the leader, there was no one to look after me. I had to watch after all of the kids alone... When I think of how I was like then, I feel really bad for myself."

1. [+1,107, -55] It's because she voluntarily took the role of the bad guy and put them all in line that she was able to manage all those members and not end up like T-ara...

2. [+649, -107] I like this unni... She's like an unni next door who works really hard at everything she does.. just someone you hope will end up marrying a great man. But unnis like her end up falling in love with bad men ㅠㅠ Kahi-ssi~ don't be like that. Make sure you make smart decisions~

3. [+435, -54] This unni looks so amazing on stage~ makes me want to diet all the time with her healthy body.. I even have her body as my cellphone background =_=...

4. [+41, -0] I thought After School debuted with a great concept and good songs... Kahi taught the members a lot of dances and controlled opinions within the group well. It's too bad that the members didn't know that she was leading them with good intentions... Instead, they all came out on TV complaining that she was too tough on them tsk tsk.. This is why the team isn't doing so well since Kahi and UEE left.

5. [+21, -0] A leader's position is always the hardest.

6. [+18, -2] There's a variety of ages in the group with a lot of members to boot.. but it's because she led them well that there never were any issues with hierarchy.

7. [+17, -2] It's because After School had Kahi that the group didn't end up like T-ara;;

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Article: Kahi "I like that people are interested in my abs but it also makes me bitter, is there really nothing else to watch from my stage?"

Source: TV Daily via Nate

"I'll work really hard to prepare for a stage and finally perform it for broadcast... but 18~19 out of the 20 articles that go out about it are talking about my abs. Although I'm glad that they're interested in my abs, I wonder to myself if there's nothing else to watch from my stage but that."

1. [+159, -11] Honestly, she's really pretty, a great dancer, and talented as well.. but she doesn't have a particular charm that pulls in the attention of the public...

2. [+60, -10] It's because she got popular for her abs that people are only focusing on that. Let's be honest, she's not that great of a singer...

3. [+43, -4] After School and Kahi are performance-oriented singers.. not singers who win charts for their vocal talent.

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216 comments:

  1. netizen... one day they said a the other day they say b

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  2. 4. [+41, -0] I thought After School debuted with a great concept and good songs... Kahi taught the members a lot of dances and controlled opinions within the group well. It's too bad that the members didn't know that she was leading them with good intentions... Instead, they all came out on TV complaining that she was too tough on them tsk tsk.. This is why the team isn't doing so well since Kahi and UEE left.



    Pretty sure they meant Bekah and not UEE... unless there's something I don't know.

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  3. It's not like it's only hard for her though. It's difficult for other leaders too. they just don't complain.

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  4. Those abs are just perfect WE CANT HELP IT KAHI

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  5. They can't exactly 'complain' since they're still leaders of their respective groups. Think about how that would translate to the rest of the members if their leader was breaking down and not being the strong one in front of them.

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  6. Wait UEE left the group? Isn't it Bekah? o -o mistake?

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  7. Wait, UEE left? Huh? Did they mean Bekah?

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  8. wtf?? Uee left the group? sijce when?

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  9. UEE has pretty much made her own career, maybe that's what they meant by that remark.

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  10. "since Kahi and UEE left." that's news to me.


    ngl, i also envy and think of her abs when you mention kahi. she just has the perfect body. it's true when they say she doesn't have a specific charm that pulls you in. when kahi said she's gonna leave the group for a solo career, i thought that was a waste. when you've been near the bottom of the relevancy pole in the group, it will be even worse when you go solo.

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  11. taeyeon's moaned about being the leader (and she's not even a great one tbh)

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  12. "Although I'm glad that they're interested in my abs, I wonder to myself if there's nothing else to watch from my stage but that."
    I didn't know she felt that way but it's kinda true when most articles are about her body than her songs

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  13. Um... probably because there aren't only 10 people commenting on every article ever?

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  14. netizen... one day they upvote a the other day they upvote b

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  15. I feel like Eeteuk has already been there, done that. Obviously he doesn't come off very well.


    Glad Kahi is still around to give some perspective on idol leadership.

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  16. As far as I know UEE is still there. Maybe it's translator mistake or something. Bekah left.

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  17. 2. [+649, -107] I like this unni... She's like an unni next door who
    works really hard at everything she does.. just someone you hope will
    end up marrying a great man. But unnis like her end up falling in love
    with bad men ㅠㅠ Kahi-ssi~ don't be like that. Make sure you make smart
    decisions~


    LOL this pretty much sums up my opinion of her. esp. the " falling in love with bad man" part. idk why...this is weird.

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  18. NBers... one day they said Ailee was a talentless Beyonce copycat. The other day they are all supporting Ailee praising how brave and talented she is. HAHAHAHA

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  19. But I feel like she's speaking on behalf of all the leaders. It's not easy and some probably wanted to step down from their positions.

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  20. She's totally my type in looks, but looking back on her whenever she talks about her position, she's pretty whiny. Her little "confession" about giving up leadership of SNSD on Strong Heart was just a way to solidify her position and pressure the other girls to acknowledge her with public support. Smart but whiny.

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  21. Aren't you witty. Because there are definitely only 1000 people who ever vote on articles.

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  22. I think they meant Bekah since a lot of fans were upset when she graduated from After School.

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  23. people bandwagon on the loud minorities' comments. If there really is some kind of conflict between people's thoughts you should see more downvotes too.

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  24. even that aside, she can be publicly mopey, says dumb things, shafts members, and it's usually other members that are stepping up to talk for the group, keep members in line, etc. sooyoung, tiffany, even seohyun do the job better than her

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  25. You should give some credits to her. After School had 11 members incluing the ones left. And they were all so freaking tall and kinda rough.

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  26. People usually don't downvote. They ignore. That's why even comments on NB have a comments at the top with many upvotes and comments at the bottom with a few, but downvotes tend to be scarce in comparison.

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  27. that's why Playgirlz Love her so much even she's left After School

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  28. maybe it was a spelling error or something then.

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  29. Here we go with the "someone else has it worse than you, you have to be on that level to be sad" mentality

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  30. the first time i saw her dance was on idol army for 2pm dancing a ciara song, she is really a charismatic and expressive dancer, definitely of a higher tier

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  31. Tiffany's nickname isn't Manager Hwang for no reason lol Taeyeon had already said it wasn't easy leading them because each member had such a strong personality. I think as of now, they pretty much lead themselves. She's still leader in title, but everyone shares it.

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  32. she really was a great leader

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  33. nice to see comments giving some praise to kahi. AS often said that kahi was harsh on them but i always brushed it off as a joke and thought of it as tough love. the members got really emotional during her graduation speech at their japanese tour so i don't think her treatment with the members was with bad intentions. and uee is still in the group btw.

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  34. UEE hasn't left as far as I know. I think they mean Bekah since Playgirlz were sad when she left.

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  35. let me rant about pledis here.. I actually like the concepts they gave to their artist. but Pledis has the suckiest marketing team ever! They usually has the boom while debuting new artist, but always end up can not maintaining it.



    Son Dambi has crazy effect with her Crazy single. everybody parodied it, even yoo jae suk. Pledis can not maintain,every single has been failed since then.


    after school has been in the industry for 4 years? 5 years? sistar already overlapped them.


    Nu'est came out and stole some lights. But since their debut song, not many new fans that they can gain.. every single Pledis artists are stuck in that level when people know they are exist but people don't really care either... I'm judging you pledis..

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  36. Because they contradict others' comments by commenting themselves. Bandwagoners just chose a different thought to upvote this time and ignored those that were similar to the what the top comments before said.

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  37. My thought on her crying photos, "damn, she is beautiful".

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  38. Since you are soooo dead set on proving me wrong, okay~ You win! Everyone on those articles are collective-hives and they change their minds like the wind changes directions~ Congratulations! Do you feel like you won something now?

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  39. I like Kahi. She's freaking hot and gorgeous, great dancer and a decent singer too. But I just gotta agree with netizen #1. she doesn't have the charm will attract others.

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  40. I need to add, they release stuff at the wrong time. Like After School within a day of Sistar this year and Kahi with T-ara and IU. I mean seriously? Girl's day did well this year as their company released songs at lulls. It means they got popular and more attention than normal. Yeah, I know AS/Kahi aren't new but they have gone down in popularity and a strategy like Girl's Day might work well for them.



    Also for Kahi; "Hey Boy" is a much better song and they should have used that. Actually same for After School; they should have used Dressing Room.

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  41. 3. [+43, -4] After School and Kahi are performance-oriented singers.. not singers who win charts for their vocal talent.

    I'm obviously an After School fan but it's true. After School comebacks are never focused on vocals, not one bit. In all honesty, majority of their First Love performances were lipsynced (well, Raina and Kaeun almost always sang live but the other members lipsynced quite a bit, even Jungah) even after they got rid of the poles.

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  42. Little Freak 'ㅂ'*November 16, 2013 at 2:06 AM

    UEE left ? omg I didn't know that until I read this article

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  43. She didn't. It's a typo.

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  44. Little Freak 'ㅂ'*November 16, 2013 at 2:06 AM

    thanks god. I thought I missed sth :D

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  45. Sorry unni. everytime I see you, I always rember Yoochun....

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  46. But I was under the impression that the majority of those fans were international ones...because to the korean market, bekah was like the jia of miss a.

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  47. Honestly though, it sucks but the only actual debuting "boom" Pledis ever had was when A/S came out with Ah and when they formed Orange Caramel. Dambi didn't get attention until Crazy (although I feel like her debut song, Cry Eye, fit her so much better...even it didn't get any love - the only recognition she received then was her company labeling her the female Rain...and even, not so much). I wouldn't go so far as to say that Nu'est stole some lights because they're pretty much nugus in the overall market and Hello Venus never made an impact as well.


    And all of this is a shame since at least Dambi and A/S had the potential to become legit contenders in the market.

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  48. I feel bad for her, or rather all women in the kentertainment world that hit 30+ (especially for the singers). There's such a comparison in how the public will receive a 30+ year old man vs. a 30+ year old woman, even if they were to pull off the same kind of concepts.

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  49. lol More than timing, I'd say that Girl's Day popularity is mainly due to the attention that came with Hyeri&Tony dating....and also the connections that came with being in a relationship with a senior with YEARS in the field.

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  50. Uee is still in After School lmfao they don't even know what their commenting

    1. [+1,107, -55] It's because she voluntarily took the role of the bad guy and put them all in line that she was able to manage all those members and not end up like T-ara...

    STOP

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  51. and i love them for that

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  52. But Kahi saved herself from leaving that sinking ship known as After School, at least she's free of a burden now and able to do anything that she wants, and let's face it she isn't that great of a singer and lacks the x factor that a popular artist usually has....

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  53. that's why i have an affinity for leaders. they're really selfless and work so hard for their group

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  54. This is why the team isn't doing so well since Kahi and UEE left.


    when did UEE leave?! Last time I checked, UEE was still promoting with AS. Also, I think there are hardships with being a leader. You kind of have to look after your members and be there for them but there is no one for you lean your head on (unless you share your hardships with your members)

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  55. I'm not really that avid fan that I know their song besides their title song. But I'm agree with you that they had bad time management! The gap are usually very long between each songs. When I watched Kahi and Nu'est, I feel quite sad, because they are such a good performers (and.. AS's pole dance that make those legs bruise a lot), but they don't get the recognition that they should have.

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  56. No, because what I'm saying is that most "netizens" cannot, or choose not to, have an opinion on things, get swayed by the vocal minority easily and just flock on whatever thought they want to flock on, not because they're "collective-hives" and came up with the same idea or opinion themselves. They don't "change their minds like the wind changes directions" because there's nothing to change.


    What a vocal minority thought and expressed before goes nowhere as if they never existed at all when the idea the vocal minority thinks and expresses today opposes it and the same silent majority as before jumps onto the new bandwagon.

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  57. That is true too. Although didn't that come out after Expectation? I can't remember.

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  58. Nu'est's debut mv has more view than BAP's and EXO at that time. so.. I think they stole some lights in the nugu section.

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  59. Kahi *_* she's another one of those stunners for me.
    i'm sorry Kahi, but there is no way around mentioning your abs, they're literary perfect & all my goals. i really loved 'It's Me', but the first sight of her abs & i was back to wishing she'd make a workout video.


    someone should really approach her for that, i'm pretty sure a lot of people would like to know what she does to get that body besides hard work & a good diet.

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  60. This is why the team isn't doing so well since Kahi and UEE left.
    When did UEE left?! LOL! It's because she already build a career that even if she graduate from AS.

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  61. YT views or GOM views? Because if it's YT, that applies to the international market and I was talking more the korean public (you have to make it in motherland first before you get the ability to grow elsewhere)

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  62. if they love Kahi so much why didn't anyone buy her single?

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  63. their popularity first came from the butt dance for expectation. the tony/hyeri dating thing came in the middle of their expectation promotions. but before that, they were charting pretty well.

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  64. I am more EXO fans now but that time, when they just debuted, I need to admit that Nuest did better that EXO

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  65. 2. [+649, -107] I like this unni... She's like an unni next door who
    works really hard at everything she does.. just someone you hope will
    end up marrying a great man. But unnis like her end up falling in love
    with bad men ㅠㅠ Kahi-ssi~ don't be like that. Make sure you make smart
    decisions~

    you've seen too many dramas...

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  66. After school had such good choreo before the new members entered...now all their choreo consists off is shaking their ass or something..

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  67. Too skinny. Looks like a boy's abdomen.

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  68. Taeyeon aka one of the worst leaders, should learn from her.

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  69. 1. [+1,107, -55] It's because she voluntarily took the role of the bad guy and put them all in line that she was able to manage all those members and not end up like T-ara...



    I don't think KKS should make soyeon the leader of the group...with the other members,they were fine but with soyeon,the controversy came up and all that,it could be stopped if KKS had kept his trap shut imo

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  70. Taeyeon is fine as a leader thank you very much,stupid

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  71. how is she one of the worst leaders...?

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  72. Well, beside the fact that she is immature, unprofessional, bullies her members, doesnt treat them with equality, lets her anger make drama on tv and making her group look bad?

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  73. where did you get that source?YOUR ASS?

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  74. lol poor sone, there is no worse blind that the one that does not want to see

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  75. Yes. The dating thing made them hit the jackpot. They were charting well already but the timing of the dating rumours sky-rocketed them to being recognized by many more people. Their company did quite well in promoting them.

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  76. to you,a leader is someone like kahi? taeyeon may not be disciplining her own members and I am sure most of the members can discipline themselves, snsd are women in their 20s,do they really need a mother-like leader to discipline them?

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  77. " Instead, they all came out on TV complaining that she was too tough on them tsk tsk.. This is why the team isn't doing so well since Kahi and UEE left."
    what??? UEE left?

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  78. I'm a friend of Jessica's. I quite agree with you

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  79. Taeyeon and Leeteuk are the worst, Sunggyu is awful too

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  80. I hate to see snsd diehards who don't know anything about snsd lol

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  81. "but Pledis has the suckiest marketing team ever" looool in time like this companies really need SM's successful marketing team with their brilliant strategies. no need to deny this fact. Gosh I hate SM but I like their singers and how they promote them /beside being biased toward some members/

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  82. you dont actually know about them do you? they've been shaking their asses since debut and they're good at it. sit down.

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  83. idk if anyone knows the meaning of self-discipline....why do girls in their 20s and guys in their 20s/30s need someone to mother them?they can discipline themselves for goodness sakes. unless you got that member who can't discipline themselves of course

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  84. Wait uee left???

    Hmm I kinda wish they stayed as a 5 member group, although I like uee. I missed their spiciness on stage whenever theh performed AH.

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  85. most of the members in after school can't dance to save their lives.....besides kahi,bekah and the 1st gen members -_-

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  86. to be honest after school's first love was A GREAT song, BUT it would have been better as a follow up song for like a repackage album since it doesn't have that momentum/boom effect that makes people sit and stare.

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  87. Kahi was the only reason AS had any stage presence, whatsoever, as was Bekah. Nana is pretty much carrying everyone else, but it seems like she'd rather be in Japan modeling. I'm starting to see why they had to do pole dancing concept - Pledis knew that it's pretty much the only way they'll get noticed these days. No one takes them seriously as singers and they haven't released a good lead single, since, like Bang?


    Now they've added members who don't do much at all, all the i-fans love kaeun because she's cute but her voice is so weak. E-young doesn't even belong in an idol group, she should be doing better things with the enormous talent she seems to have. If they add one more member they're going to be sinking even further down.


    AS's line up was totally perfect during Because of You, imo. Even as a 5 member group they were great, but they should have just stopped adding members after Bang.

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  88. and lets not forget being a bitch to her members. isn't she supposed to be a "leader"

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  89. I'm slightly disagree with that.. I think they could have done it last year with Flashback, if they keep on promoting with a follow-up track

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  90. it is like the case where people thought tswift said stfu to selena gomez when we don't know them personally...shut up if you don't know them personally,you don't see me commenting on their ig like those hard core ones either over things that should not be any of our business (the recent concussion jessica had is one of them)

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  91. you dont need to know them personally it's very obvious just by looking at taeyeon's immature actions you can tell there's something wrong with them.

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  92. I think Nana and Eyoung are actually good dancers, and I don't think their choreo only consists of ass shaking. I mean just look at Flashback last year as an example :)

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  93. Ikr.
    And it's fucked up how most sones find it funny. Like 'lol taeyeon ignored jessica again'. When it just proves that the whole 'soshibond' image that snsd sells is nothing but crap and taeyeon is such a immature person.

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  94. There is no such thing as Soshi bond. XD

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  95. No one is saying that she should babysit them, but act as a mature leader instead of acting like she is 10 years old. In fact, Taeyeon is so fucking lucky 'cause all the girls in her group are way more mature than her because if she was the leader of other groups like coughtaracough, she would be fucked.

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  96. Uee left after school?
    Anyway, like one of the commenters says, being the leader is always the hardest. It reminds me of my mom (who's obviously my parent). When I was younger we didn't get a long much and I hated some of the decisions she made for us and sometimes even know, when she tries to express her opinion on what i should, we butt heads but then after I've done things my way, I realize that I should have listened to my mom and I think of how I ended up and how lucky I am to have someone to lead me in the right direction. So yes, being a leader is hard, but those who you're leading will be so very grateful to you whether they realize it or not:)

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  97. first gen-members lol. I wouldn't call Jooyeon's half-assed dancing good, but she's improved. Nana, uee, and e-young aren't even after school's first gen members and they dance really, really well.

    you need some enlightenment:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPsoes0eoU0

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  98. i tell u that taeyeon is a great leader..we dont know what she doing behind the scenes and now snsd already mature they not need taeyeon baby sit again.what ever haters said it's not will chance her position as leader in sones eyes and heart..about jessica we dont what the real reason is why they like that but at least snsd still strong until now..taeyeon always care and promote her members solo activity and she promote her group too of course..she let other members lead them self..remembers snsd become nation group and without changing members at all cos of taeyeon leadership and of course their bond too...if taeyeon selfish snsd not will last this long.if u dont like her being a leader so tell that to SM...

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  99. LOL butthurt taengsic shipper,

    SNSD is the only group who still around after 5 year. this is solid proof she good leader can manager their member

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  100. yes i saw a gif on my tumblr dashboard and the gif you can clearly see what was going on cause that picture barely shows the actual reactions, anywho i though the fans where going to be mad or curious but all they did was laughed it off as if it was some sort of joke, i dont follow them closely but i though it was weird how they would do that, anyway their otp9 bond is obviously crap or at least since 2011 it has.

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  101. first time i heard about snsd, i thought Taeyeon was the maknae of the group bc she acted so immature.

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  102. hey cn you send me that gif please? thanks

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  103. something wrong what? what i see is snsd is now nation girl group and they become big like this cos of taeyeon leadership too and she can maintain snsd image this good in public eyes along with yoona until now...

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  104. They didnt become big bc of Taeyeons leadership, they became big bc of SM's leadership.

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  105. first time i heard about snsd, i thought Taeyeon was the maknae of the group bc she acted so immature.

    but when i found out she was the leader and the oldest, i was suprised. I like what they did with TVXQ, even though JJ was the oldest, they made Yunho the leader. They should of done the same with SNSD. A leader has a specific set of qualities, which Taeyeon does not have.

    Just because you're the oldest doesnt make you a leader

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  106. We dont know them behind the scene and u all talk like u all know them?just from fancam? snsd become big cos of taeyeon leadership too..if she selfish are u think snsd can be this long? when sooyung and seohyun have drama taeyeon promote them in her IG..when snsd nominate in YTMA she promote too in her IG..until now snsd image is good and clean in public so nothing wrong with taeyeon leadership..snsd is grown up group now they can take care them self..let taeyeon doing her job behind the scene

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  107. "you dont need to know them personally" by your logic, I can say that you know them personally to judge like that? "taeyeon's immature actions" how many percentage things about her immature actions that you're confirm that she's an immature person?
    you an outsider and fans also an outsider that didnt really dont know them yet you're blindly judging them... just like the fans... so what make you and the fans different?

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  108. Yunho offered himself because no one else wanted to be the leader ("no one else" probably being Jaejoong since he was the oldest) in the end it was a very good choice, the guy was born to lead. 2NE1 is another positive example, though CL is much younger than Dara and Bom she is the leader and a very good one, Dara and Bom would have been terrible. It's better if the group itself chooses the leader, instead of just being stuck with a bad leader because the company didn't want to put too much thought in it and just gave the command to the oldest. I think T-ara are the worst case, a rotating leader... not everyone is fit for that position and it showed. It just created even more envy and unhealty competition, as if KKS's blackmailing wasn't enough already.

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  109. SM's promotional tactics are genius, esp the one they pulled on exo this year


    the melon awards one was wayy too obvious though =_= they're trying to push shinee and exo to the spotlight now that tvxq and the rest of sj are leaving for the army. they even ignored snsd to let the hoobaes get the spotlight this year

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  110. I never said shes is selfish. But all of SNSD members worked hard for their popularity. Its stupid to say Taeyeon did everything for them because that isnt true. SM, on the other hand, did most of the promotions for them.


    "We dont know them behind the scene and u all talk like u all know them?"


    <-from the variety shows ive seen, thats how I judge Taeyeon.

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  111. I never said shes is selfish. But all of SNSD members worked hard for their popularity. Its stupid to say Taeyeon did everything for them because that isnt true. SM, on the other hand, did most of the promotions for them.

    "We dont know them behind the scene and u all talk like u all know them?"

    <-from the variety shows ive seen, thats how I judge Taeyeon..

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  112. i'm not said it all cos taeyeon what i said is snsd can become this big and last until now cos of taeyeon too..of course other members work their ass for them fame..i just dont like people always misunderstanding her behavior everytime..like i said we dont know them behind the scene

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  113. I like every single thing about her, she's just perfect in my eyes

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  114. calling names wont make you cleverer.

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  115. Keep fantasizing.I've been following SNSD although I wont declare myself as SONE.i would say their friendships that keep them all together instead of taeyeon's "great" leadership.

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  116. I utterly dislike Leeteuk, but I give him props for being Super Junior and still have the group mostly intact now. Being the spokesperson for a group with such varying personalities (especially with uber loud strong ones like Heechul and Kangin) and still be functional after 8 years isn't something to scoff at.

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  117. support doesn't always come with money.

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  118. and now no one is bitching about NB posting positive comments. I swear NB users are also hypocrites when they want to be.

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  119. agree most of them are certainly BB biased. And then they say they aren't biased

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  120. ok tell that to SM and make taeyeon not become snsd leader anymore..easy right?

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  121. ....I don't really give a shit -.- I just like calling people stupid

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  122. she is called kid leader for a reason...acts like a kid,and looks like one -_-

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  123. why? Taeyeon is leader but its not like she has any leadership skills.

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  124. just because you are a leader does not mean you really have to act like one...some leaders act like leaders but no leadership skills,only know how to hao lian (show off) but taeyeon may not be good at it but keeping the group together is more important than your leadership, if you are some bitch or asshole,nobody would follow your lead

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  125. but after school always has some prop instead of full choreography...first love is 90% on that pole and 10% dancing

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  126. "just because you are a leader does not mean you really have to act like on"


    Your logic is right on! Amazing! :D

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  127. Ignored SNSD? More like letting them do solo activities and getting bank in Japan with their tour/singles lol

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  128. being a leader can be very difficult and lonely because even if you want to have fun with the other members, you have to put limits and be the most responsible, someone they will follow because this person gives a reassuring feeling thanks to her authority.

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  129. cos we dont know how she work..we not living with them ok..

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  130. I do a lot of group projects in school and the good leader does not show off...that kind of leader will only lead to rushing when the dead line comes around ._. or you end up with members who are just people who have no sense of urgency

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  131. well if she treats jessica like that infront of their fans while they are doing their JOB i can't imagine how she treats her behind curtains... and yes she is immature for not controlling her actions when she is WORKING, or what you are going to say she didn't ignore her?


    because its very clear from the fancam that she was ignoring her

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  132. Ikr. I was busy trolling in one article recently intentionally because I was really pissed at how NB users overreacted to SHINee's win and someone noticed and asked if I was okay because he/she felt I usually posted reasonable comments. Others kept insulting and downvoting me, asking me to grow up and I told one that if only he/she knew my age. What a lot of people don't know is that this is the internet and you can be whatever you want to be at any point in time so I've stopped believing in NB comments, I just read them for fun now. This place is filled with hypocrites and you can easily fish them out------->those who bash AKP.

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  133. I don't really like AKP either though. I hate Johnny lee, matt kim, and daniel lee. Its because of them I hate AKP


    Maybe if they get rid of those bastards i might start visiting AKP

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  134. one thing I've come to understand in life is 'don't hate the player but hate the game'. I feel the same way you feel about AKP with SM Entertainment. I love SHINee but it's under SM which I despise. Unlike most people who blatantly hate on groups they don't stan, I am usually indifferent. For example, I'm not a fan of TVXQ, SNSD, f(x) or EXO but I don't come out to say I hate them. The funny thing is that I even have favourites amongst them EXO- Xiumin, SUJU- Ryeowook, Heechul, Eunhyuk & Donghae, f(x)- Amber. I don't follow these said groups but that doesn't mean I just hate on them unnecessarily. What pissed me off about the SHINee incident is the fact that NB users were usually neutral about them but suddenly they win an irrelevant award and everyone jumps on the badwagon which we all know it's because their favourites didn't win but they turn around and say shawols are delusional. Now, tell me again, who is being hypocritical here??

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  135. Everyone! Same here, i prefer individual members from groups. What did you think about the BB vs Exo article that was posted by NB recently?

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  136. As you know, someone is older than you automatically means someone is better than you in Korea. So I was expecting the backlash on EXO so I wasn't really surprised. I'm not saying they are on the level of Big Bang or anything but you know netizens (korean & international ones) just love to vent their hate on the next easy target. When I read the title, I knew it was a prey article but I trust my netizens to fall for it. I am on the other hand being very platonic because I feel almost the same way about both groups, that is, I like some members than some. I don't call myself a fan of a group if I don't like all the members so that goes for Big Bang and EXO. Let me add that I like BigBang for some of the music and EXO for the eye-candy lol. But to me, they'll rank almost the same in my list of favourites.

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  137. Or the members know how to manage themselves? LOL
    You don't need to be a good leader if the members know how to act well.

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  138. wait! UEE left after school?

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  139. "This is why the team isn't doing so well since Kahi and UEE left."


    The only graduates are Bekah, Kahi and Soyoung...

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  140. Pledis fault as they don't choose the right song for After School to promote..

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  141. "Believe what you want to believe" period.

    I'm kinda tired with the hate for SHINee and EXO for winning those awards. and I'm just gonna state here. for shouting "we are SMTOWN" they receive hate? but did you guys actually watch the whole show? SHINee and EXO were left out on stage after SHINee's last speech and they were ALONE on stage when they were shouting "we are SMTOWN". disrespect? to whom.

    as a SONE I'm kinda sad too that actually SNSD didn't win any of the awards but I'm just moving on. out of the nominees, I thought SHINee and EXO are the ones who work their butt really hard this year and they deserve it. it's not like the other nominees weren't working their butt hard but there's no need to deny and can't accept the winners.

    everyone keeps saying that award shows like this isn't important and should not be taken too seriously. but in reality, everyone criticized this matter to each other. just why. and why everyone can't move on.

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  142. I think your cool, im your new fan! OPPPPAAR


    lol jk
    I agree thanks for your opinion

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  143. and know what post and what not to post on sns....some idols apparently don't know social networking etiquette -_-

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  144. t-ara's rotating leader system is like picking a member's name out of a hat and suddenly making that member a leader LOL

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  145. I really like Kahi and think that she could've had a bigger solo career after she left AS, but Pledis doesn't know how to make her shine like the star that she is. I wish her the best.

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  146. Can netizens PLEASE stop dragging T-ARA into everything? They don't know what really happened (they refuse to believe the debunking of all those rumours), and yet they still continuously cyber bully them - even on stories that aren't related to them!

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  147. well...that happens with really BAD leadership...the rotating system is ridiculous to start with, that will only lead to a lot of problems

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  148. Kahi is undeniably one of the most talented leaders along with: Taeyeon, JeA, Hyorin & CL. It's a shame that despite her great dancing talents, people often over look that and Kahi doesn't look like a really expressive person so I think she comes across a bit "hard" cause she's such a hard worker too. I think it she just opened up a little by being her self as well as working on her vocal talents and improving a bit, people will take more notice of her. She just needs that exxtra edge to draw people in.

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  149. i think both nuest n hello venus made an impact during their debuts. well, they debuted in oversaturated market yet nuest WAS even considered on par with BAP n EXO while hellovenus debuted strong with venus that their name n song are known in public, followed by strong digital beating many other rookies last year and gaining considerable size of fanbase to survive n compete with senior groups.

    you probably couldn't tell this id you don't follow them closely. but after all, because pledis is dumb n never learn from AS n Dambi failures, both are still suffering n struggling now, might as well go down the same way with their senior.

    i'm a hello venus fan, though. so, i hope, at least HV, will escape this pledis curse considering they're under fantagio as well. what a pity for my fangirl heart to see a group of talented girls couldn't compete to top spots because of their stupid management.

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  150. actually Girls Day had a huge hit with Twinkle Twinkle too long before Expect and the dating scandal.
    Also to flaminggo Son Dambi did amazing with Saturday Night ti was one of the most popular songs of 2009 but then she went on a long hiatus and started acting and her first drama did horribly in ratings and its been all down hill.
    Shes only done 2 promotions cycles as a singer since saturday night because of acting.

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  151. Galjung - 신화창조November 16, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    She's such a strong and beautiful woman inside and out, and on top of that she has mad dancing skills. Even if she's not the strongest singer ever, she's always mesmerizing on stage. I wish her a lot of sucess in her endeavours.

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  152. UEE left After School?

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  153. you are welcome and you can call me NOONA lol XD
    plot twist: and again, you might be older than I am lol :D

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  154. i don't really like leeteuk as a person, but i wouldn't say he's the worst. he's done a lot to get members in the spotlight while simultaneously hogging it for himself - but nevertheless, he still helped get suju's name out there pretty well. he's a hard worker and i kinda really hate people shitting on the fact that he's done more than they'd like to give credit to because he annoys them.

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  155. I've heard around about the issues with Jessica and Taeyeon. Do you have any other instances?

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  156. "They haven't released a good lead single, since, like Bang?"


    No offense but you have to be deaf if you think Bang is better than Shampoo or Flashback....

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  157. But the ones whining about the negative comments are people from allkpoop though.


    I remembered when I first visited NetizenBuzz, it was as level-headed as the people at asianjunkie. Now with the recent popularity of NetizenBuzz, those drones have been coming over here to whine about [insert artist] not being well liked in their own home country and making k-netizens into one person named "K-netizens".

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  158. Were they really lipsynced, because in their mr romoved they are stilll sining when doing the pole dancing But it's true that there were too many recorded voices.

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  159. I really lost interest in after school after bekah and kahi left. They were so freaking good when they debuted.

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  160. You know I start to think that that's what Pledis wants, I mean that Pledis watns all of its groups to be a kind of exclusive. Becuase if their marketing was really a failure After School would have been disbanded long time ago. But they are still selling, specially in Japan, last year it was said their contract with Avex would end because they didn't the enough famous but they are still with Avex and they are still selling. So I think Pledis doesn't care too much about the mass popularity of their groups. That's what I think.

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  161. so true! i haven't heard of nu'est in a while now, wonder where they've gone tbh. aren't they promoting in china or something now?

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  162. Pledis doesn't want to put in the money to actually turn talent into huge successes.

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  163. and those whining about those whining about negative comments are the "so-called-ancient-nb-users" and how sure are you that the people whining are from AKP? does anyone have any proof of that? and the last time I checked, it is a free world or is there any restriction to the kind of people that can visit this blog?? most "so-called-ancient-nb-users" are hypocrites anyway, they say knetz hate unnecessarily while they do the exact same thing, and once someone tries to correct them, the person becomes a "stupid/delusional" fangirl.

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  164. I have to disagree because if it was like you said Because of You wouldn't have been as successful as it was, and maybe Bang would have been their most popular song among the people. Their focus on performance is a added value for fans and to call the attention of some people. With First Love performances I don't remember that they were lipsyncing in their mr removed videos you can clearly hear that they're sining, of course not perfectly but they can do it.
    Also the focus on performance is had happening only in intro songs which were only 2, until First Love came out where they made the pole dancing. With the rest of the songs you can hear that they show their singing ability and how it has improved as time goes by. I think it's just that their special performaces have make such a big impact that people think that they only do that.

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  165. UEE LEFT????? She's my AS bias and if she left and I don't know about it, something isn't adding up here...

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  166. Flashback is good on the first few listens but I got tired of it. It's just.. flat. At least Bang is still energetic.

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  167. Well, it's about time she grows up a little

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  168. Waaaaaiiiiiit what the hell? I'm not an After School fan but what?! UEE left? What? Whaaat? D:

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  169. I slightly disagree. Maybe I'm being biased as a Sone but Taeyeon does have good abilities at leading the group. If you think she's silly/immature then what about the rest of the group lol? Only Sunny and maybe Sooyoung could also be possible leaders but besides that none of the other members really strike me as the leader type.

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  170. idk i think hyo could have also been on the 'good leader' list

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  171. Lol pretty much. You can tell some girls did a better job with it than others did...Eunjung and Hyomin did great, and to a certain degree I think that Soyeon did a decent job considering everything she had to deal with...but most fans agree that Eunjung should have just been given the reins and kept them, she was born to lead T-ara and did a really good job.

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  172. eww I'm not a Taengsic shipper. Why to ship a dead couple when i can have everything by shipping yulti or yulsic lol

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  173. Exactly! I agree a lot with you.

    They should have chosen snsd's leader because of their maturity and responsibility and not because of who is older.

    (In MY opinion, i think someone like Sunny or Sooyoung would be good 'cause both of them are reponsible and mature and take care of the group and each member)

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  174. You don't need to be a shipper to notice Taeyeon's bitchy attitude.

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  175. "and yet they still continuously cyber bully them"



    Our accounts got hacked.

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  176. today i was actually googling a little bit about them on youtube and facebook and if you look at the taengsic or taesica fancams (Recent)there's quite a few where jessica calls taeyeon and she ignores her this is a very visible one : 2:57
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1L2YQEv-dk&src_vid=oZ-EbJI5mPI&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_977372


    she tapped taeyeon she called her but taeyeon kept talking andignored her


    ,and even on their facebook fanpage most of the picture upload of them are either edited or prior to 2011 after that all the fancams and pictures are just little interaction mostly with taeyeon ignoring jessica or them just walking close (no actual interaction)


    http://imageshack.us/a/img138/5065/56563409.gif

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  177. IntenseFeelings_UglySobbingNovember 16, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    "This is why the team isn't doing so well since Kahi and UEE left."


    lol i don't remember Uee leaving.

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  178. Same, from the shows ive seen her in, she would make a great leader

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  179. Do you know what happened to their relationship? Or if they even had a legit one to begin with.

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  180. That "rotating leader" system is..
    Like are they 10? KKS is so stupid.

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  181. Well if that's the case 2NE1 are DEF not close at all!!! I mean have you seen them interact? It's so awk it's like miss a when the other 3 are together and suzy is just there

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  182. yes Kahi is an amazing leader..

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  183. Excuse me that facial expression can be intrepreted in many way. Maybe Taeyeon told Jessica something and Jessica look surprised when Taeyeon mention something to Jessica. If somebody told me something that surprising, I would give that same expression like Jessica did in the picture. Unless you're an FBI profiler (a la Criminal Minds) and you can tell if what Jessica's facial expression shown there is confusion, then you're going to need more evidence of Taeyeon's behavior. I don't see Taeyeon acting like Justin Bieber.

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  184. SM is the oldest entertainment company for a reason. (okay, I'm not sure whether they are the oldest, but boy.. aren't they already in the industry since ages ago.)



    Actually (SM biased will kill me for this..) but some of the artists don't perform nearly as good as they should be as an national-international entertainer. but the way SM sell them.. everything become gold. you can say their marketing department has that midas touch.

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  185. yes, pledis start to switch their market to China... since they can't really make much in their homeland.

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  186. I didn't know that pole/cane/tap dancing wasn't considered dancing.
    Well I'll be darned.. my whole life has been a lie.

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  187. i almost had a heart attack! i would be so sad if Uee graduated..

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  188. 2. [+649, -107] I like this unni... She's like an unni next door who works really hard at everything she does.. just someone you hope will end up marrying a great man. But unnis like her end up falling in love with bad men ㅠㅠ Kahi-ssi~ don't be like that. Make sure you make smart decisions~

    3. [+435, -54] This unni looks so amazing on stage~ makes me want to diet all the time with her healthy body.. I even have her body as my cellphone background =_=. <<<< looooool that second comment. I love Kahi I just would've wished she didn't have to carried the burden for the group tho smh .

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  189. all that i can say is all the things that you do is just assumptions...
    be it while they're doing their job or what... and you're not at the scene of the place. you're only referring to the fancam.
    you dont know, we dont know.
    derive things and make a conclusion just based on the fancam.... these are just like the early days with all the misunderstanding surrounding this group...
    Yoona bullying Tiffany in 2009 scandal also was because of fancam, Tiffany bullying scandal (wangta) also because of collective pictures and fancam and people put it together to show it as the bullying is exist when it's not.
    a fancam from far and you can put everything together?
    I found it a bit exaggerated of assuming (?)

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  190. after school does not really need to have props to dance with imo..tap dancing is somehow more of a personal skill

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  191. Actually, "Expectation" came out before the news of Hyeri and Tony dating broke out...so a lot of fanboys were actually hurt when they found out that one of the members are dating. Girl's Day were always on the rise before the news.

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  192. Uee left? I think that netizens have to get the facts straight...or did a miss this important article?

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  193. Try to be in her shoes, i don't think managing 8 girls at your same age will be easy. (minus Seohyun and Yoona). It'll be awkward to ordering someone on your same age. At least she can controlling her member to not doing something scandallous

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  194. ...it is not like they are a class that rotates class leaders LOL

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  195. taeyeon's mental age is probably not 23/24 ._. I am 18 but I act like a 12 year old lol

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  196. I'm sorry but I know a lot of people will agree with me that UKISS' company has the suckiest marketing team ever. Off topic, sorry. I'm still waiting they can win an award TT

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  197. UEE LEFT? WHEN?

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