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Monday, October 14, 2013

T-ara says they're learning from their hateful comments


Article: T-ara, "We're learning a lot from reading the hateful comments"

Source
: Mydaily via Nate

1. [+1,443, -71] Why are we getting so many articles about these trashes? They're learning from these hateful comments? ㅋㅋ Yeah right, they're probably swearing right back at the monitor

2. [+1,332, -44] Soyeon-ssi, you're 27 years old... you're way past the age of maturing.

3. [+1,171, -47] What is there to learn from these hateful comments? Unless they're learning new swears to use to bully someone else...

4. [+48, -2] If they really learned anything, they should know it's time to disband... Unless they're taking these comments literally and learning new swear words from them;;;

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Article:
T-ara "If 'that incident' didn't happen, we would've remained immature idols"

Source:
Newsen via Nate

1. [+473, -11] Their desperation to survive is only digging a deeper hole for themselves. I'm serious now when I say that T-ara is over now... there's no other celebrity that all of Korea unanimously hates like this both online and offline... They really have nowhere to turn to.

2. [+416, -13] They would've still been immature if they never went through the bullying scandal ㅡㅡ What a joke... their actions were even worse before their debut. It's not a matter of maturity, you girls were just raised with poor character. The proper response to committing such a huge scandal like that would've been to end your careers ㅡㅡ

3. [+372, -12] So when are they going to disappear again? They're like mold

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Article: T-ara Soyeon, "I'm proud of my boyfriend Oh Jong Hyuk"

Source:
Asia Econ via Naver

1. [+3,786, -112] We all know that Oh Jong Hyuk is a good person. And we also all know that you're a bad person.

2. [+3,127, -95] Don't use your boyfriend

3. [+2,710, -118] He could do a thousand times better ㅠ ㅠ

4. [+765, -35] If you're really proud of your boyfriend, stop mentioning him to the media... To us, we have an image of Oh Jong Hyuk being a real man with a hard working image but because of "you", you lower his class...

5. [+606, -37] Oh Jong Hyuk's image was all the craze after his discharge but now it's hitting the floor since dating Soyeon ㅜㅜ

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511 comments:

  1. 27 years old is quite young.

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  2. [+3,786, -112] We all know that Oh Jong Hyuk is a good person. And we also all know that you're a bad person.

    I really have nothing to say to the presumptuousness here aside from "shut the fuck up"

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  3. I hate it when people say "____ can do much better". They speak as though they actually know a person simply by seeing them on a monitor. I'm sure Oh Jong Hyuk can make a better judgment for himself than they can

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  4. T-ara is still striving strong. They should continue their careers for as long as they want. They are beautiful, talented young females. I support and love T-ara.

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  5. I knew it. I knew she'll use her shield aka her boyfriend in her interviews.

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  6. alot of these netizens have literally been making these same tired ass comments for over a year about how t-ara is "over".


    still waiting.......

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  7. Yeah..yeah...yeah... whatsoever Knitizen ^^
    *dance roly poly*

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  8. Why does her face look so awkward in that picture? Is it her nose?

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  9. The hate campaign against T-ara is revolting especially when so many knetizens are doing exactly what they're hating on T-ara for. This is so beyond cyber-bullying, this is full on harassment.

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  10. Idk about anyone else but i love their new song it's addictive

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  11. jiyeon always has the same make up right? her eyes always have those line

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  12. They really were immature for fighting/making a fuss in twitter. But people make mistakes :/

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  13. are they still the most hated celebrity in korea?

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  14. Annoyed at reading these comments -_-
    Enough is enough.... im not queen but I wish t ara to have good career ahead of them.

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  15. the irrelevent teenage girls that people here think represent all of korea serving every online "you're over!!!!!" sentence to female idols....lol

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  16. [+473, -11] Their desperation to survive is only digging a deeper hole for themselves. I'm serious now when I say that T-ara is over now... there's no other celebrity that all of Korea unanimously hates like this both online and offline... They really have nowhere to turn to.



    if no one knew about T-ara and their music and read these comments, they'd think the girls committed murder or something. "there's no other celebrity that all of Korea unanimously hates like this both online and offline" i don't know where this person got 'unanimous hate' data from because it's evident the the girls still have plenty of support. "they really have nowhere to turn to" is also an over exaggeration in most contexts considering they were charting pretty well .___."

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  17. These knetz should focus on bettering themselves as individuals than sitting and cyber bullying girls who are just trying to entertain

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  18. I like what T-ara said though. Yes people learn from mistakes and its true.

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  19. Serioulsy, I don't know in what moral conscience they have to be judging them so harshly.

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  20. 3. [+2,710, -118] He could do a thousand times better ㅠ ㅠ


    butthurt netizen ...

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  21. 5. [+606, -37] Oh Jong Hyuk's image was all the craze after his discharge but now it's hitting the floor since dating Soyeon ㅜㅜ



    if he chose her over his image then maybe it tells you something is wrong on how your judging her.

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  22. Step up your game K-netizens, you are running out of new things to say.

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  23. The T-ara hate train has gotten too ridiculous to the point where I could not even take these comments with the slightest consideration anymore.

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  24. I hate when Allkpop users came here.. NB is not fun anymore

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  25. Ah, well that makes sense. Thanks.

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  26. t ara is the best troll group i have ever seen. they bait the netizens for a reaction so easily. "we are learning from reading hate comments" meaning we read your shit and we still dont give a fuck lol.

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  27. 2. [+1,332, -44] Soyeon-ssi, you're 27 years old... you're way past the age of maturing.



    WHAT A FUCKING NONSENSE !!
    anyone can mature in any age they were and in any aspect .. dont expect people to only mature during their teenage years .. btw, 2+ is still young ....

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  28. I was going to send a message to Sunyoung on twitter in hangul to READ ours, not those idiots who think "A man and a woman can't just be friends"....


    Oh boy. They're still worrying about what the korean fanbase thinks....*facepalm* Then, they should have protested the track "Don't get married". That's another offensive music towards Dating scandals...

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  29. 1. [+1,443, -71] Why are we getting so many articles about these trashes? They're learning from these hateful comments? ㅋㅋ Yeah right, they're probably swearing right back at the monitor



    Because you flop netizens keep reading them and commenting. Duh.


    And at least T-ara is learning something. All netizens learned was to how be more hateful and vicious towards female celebrities. Just look at all the post-T-ara female scandals, most of them originating from nothing.

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  30. There's really nothing to learn from their comments because it's blind hate at this point rather than actual constructive criticisms

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  31. Hahaha they probably realised at the end of the day netizens don't really matter and they are still going strong and making money. Despite what netizens say, t-ara is still charting well, selling albums and selling concerts.

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  32. i think all they're songs are pretty catchy :3 i just really hate the "i'm addict" part

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  33. Can't a korean website translate our own comments to them???!

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  34. Love the Tuxedo Mask shout out

    http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9gmj99CxW1qaj8zo.gif

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  35. 1. [+3,786, -112] We all know that Oh Jong Hyuk is a good person. And we also all know that you're a bad person.



    Since he's so good I'm sure he wouldn't date somebody as terrible as netizens make Soyeon out to be. Clearly she isn't that bad if she can get a hot well-loved guy like Oh Jong Hyuk during a time when K-pop fans are unfairly hating anything related to T-ara.

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  36. 1. [+3,786, -112] We all know that Oh Jong Hyuk is a good person. And we also all know that you're a bad person.

    2. [+3,127, -95] Don't use your boyfriend

    3. [+2,710, -118] He could do a thousand times better ㅠ ㅠ

    4. [+765, -35] If you're really proud of your boyfriend, stop mentioning him to the media... To us, we have an image of Oh Jong Hyuk being a real man with a hard working image but because of "you", you lower his class...

    5. [+606, -37] Oh Jong Hyuk's image was all the craze after his discharge but now it's hitting the floor since dating Soyeon ㅜㅜ



    I already know they'll say that...at least, Soyeon is fine with her relationship going public. She's an honest person.

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  37. They already think we're all Japanese and Chinese so that'd be useless lol.

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  38. The IRONY in this whole ordeal is that knetz are doing to T-ara the exact same thing they hate T-ara for. BULLYING! Worst yet, it's mass-bullying, and cyber-bullying. The worst kind of bullies are those who feel they are justified to do so, which is apparently the case here.

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  39. Honestly, the only part of this "bullying scandal" that is confirmed is what happened on twitter. Pretty much everything else was manipulated in some way to make it look like they all hated Hwayoung. The twitter incident is more immature than anything else. I'm sure people who are putting T-ara down have wanted to vent about a problem with their close friends before. For T-ara it was just not professional to post such things but this witch hunting has gotten way out of hand. People are just hating for the sake of hating, since if they really felt that bullying was wrong they would stop making such rude remarks about the members.

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  40. I hope T-ara doesn't disband for like 10 more years, if only to piss these hateful netizens off. The hate is not even funny anymore, it's just.. disgusting to see the lengths that these people go to hate on someone for nothing while ignoring real important issues.

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  41. I love now how netizen comments keep acknowledging that T-ara won't go away. No matter what happens to T-ara they stay together and keep persevering. I feel like their old concept used to be that they were known for being Madonnas of K-pop because they drastically changed concepts for every album in the same way as Madonna and Rihanna, but now they're perseverance-dols. They work hard and no matter what anyone does to them they keep surviving. When Korea turned on them they just continued promoting overseas and having success. Now they're back in Korea and their new song is doing quite well all things considered. Netizens need to realize that nothing they do will disband T-ara. T-ara will only disband if they choose to or if KKS does it. Other than that netizens need to give up and stop trying to break up T-ara coz it's not going to happen. The group is too successful across Asia to ever quit.

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  42. [+1,332, -44] Soyeon-ssi, you're 27 years old... you're way past the age of maturing.

    I guess these 1k+ never heard of the phrase, "learning is a life long process"

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  43. Knets want to hate on tara and tbh I'm no fan but number 9 dat beat tho
    Great song besides the I'm addict part all I hear is I'm a dick

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  44. I miss the old NB..most of the commentor before are really open. We could have a very healthy argument and nobody got butthurt. But ever since a lot of allkpop readers come here, this blog has lost its true colors. It become a place for some stupid fans to argue with each other..

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  45. Judging by these netizens they didn't learn past the age of five years old, so they can't comprehend a mature sensible girl like Soyeon still learning and growing at 27 which is still so young.

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  46. How's their song/album doing on the charts? Are they really 'over' as the netizens declare?

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  47. I agree.... it's sad...

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  48. I only know T-ara because I've seen the members on variety shows and the members who I have seen (Hyomin, Eunjung, Jiyeon) don't even seem that bad. Actually, Hyomin was pretty funny back on IY lol. The scandal was something that should have been forgotten months ago (even though I still would like to know what went down lol) but still, the hate the girls are getting is pretty unfair. They've apologized, owned up to their mistake (I think...I can't remember well) and have moved on so why can't the knetizens? They must enjoy putting others down...

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  49. lol I love the 'I'm addict' part the engrish is hilar

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  50. And people called those +30 'old'

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  51. i wish everyone would just move on with their lives. it takes so much effort to hate someone, so i wish they'd just stop wasting their time. they always say the opposite of loving someone is not hatred but indifference. all the people that hate them are doing is keeping them in the media.

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  52. We'll wait till Wednesday

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  53. Lol, the hate in the beginning was interesting, but now its getting old.

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  54. I have a feeling most Koreans have gotten bored of hating on T-ara and now there's just a few hardcore netizens who continuously hate on them.

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  55. they do but it seems like it is usually only for things that make it seem like we're attacking korean culture/mocking them *sighs*

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  56. 1. [+1,443, -71] Why are we getting so many articles about these trashes? They're learning from these hateful comments? ㅋㅋ Yeah right, they're probably swearing right back at the monitor



    They already called them "The Nation's Trash". Ironic eh...

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  57. In Asia, once you're 25, you've hit your peak. In China, if you're not married at that age, you're called a leftover woman

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  58. T-ara is clearly not going anywhere. Their sales aren't that bad, and they still have fans that support them. Maybe those who hate on T-ara should just ignore them or become indifferent about them. It seems useless to hate on T-ara even a year after the scandal.

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  59. T-ara "If 'that incident' didn't happen, we would've remained immature idols"



    And to the foolish media, that is not my main perspective of the Bully Scandal. It's like making KKS get away with his own immaturity as a CEO

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  60. i think it's also because fans in general are becoming less mature. people don't think it's possible to be friendly with people who have a different opinion from them, and beyond that. they also forget that not liking your bias group does not make a person your enemy.

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  61. [+416, -13] They would've still been immature if they never went through the bullying scandal ㅡㅡ What a joke... their actions were even worse before their debut. It's not a matter of maturity, you girls were just raised with poor character. The proper response to committing such a huge scandal like that would've been to end your careers ㅡㅡ



    If you don't have anything nice to say, the proper response is to not say anything at all.

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  62. It's like no matter what they say, their words will get thrown right back at their faces. Like what do people want to hear? That they didn't learn anything from the scandal, or that they didn't care about the scandal? Sheesh..

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  63. Sometimes I just want them to shut up. I didn't really care about the scandal before, but now they are annoying they hell out of me.

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  64. 2. [+1,332, -44] Soyeon-ssi, you're 27 years old... you're way past the age of maturing.

    Actually... Although I do see myself as more mature at 27, I don't think people generally 'stop maturing' until the day they leave this world... I dunno, there just seems to be some way for my mind to go before I can reach my grandma's 'zen' level :P

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  65. Lmao
    Why are y'all taking the comments so serious in NB?

    Relax.

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  66. They do. It's called gisaengi or something like that. But they write us off as being either Japanese, Chinese, or Asian-Americans all because some of us aren't kissing their asses by portraying Korea has this holy land of magical idols and safe haven.

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  67. But...but... Oh Jong Hyuk smokes...

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  68. They are doing decently. Not top 10 good, but top 20 on most charts.

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  69. LOL. I'm Japanese, and there are a lot of middle-aged ladies that see Korea as the land of hot Jang Geun Suk doppelgängers.

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  70. I know right. And they say he can do better as if Soyeon is some trash, but they couldn't get a girl like Soyeon if their lives depended on it. It's like all those male netizens who were charged by police for making hate comments against Baek Ji Young for her miscarriage. These guys are dickless nerds who could never dream of having a woman like Soyeon or Baek Ji Young. they take out their petty frustrations and insecurities online against women.

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  71. Yes, No. 9 is in reference to an old hit from the sixties about a magic love potion http://arcadey.net/2013/10/nine-divine-moments-from-t-aras-life-changing-no-9-comeback/

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  72. 5. [+606, -37] Oh Jong Hyuk's image was all the craze after his discharge but now it's hitting the floor since dating Soyeon ㅜㅜ



    Then maybe you people shouldn't care so much about image,

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  73. you must be new. Ppl from akp?

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  74. 1. [+3,786, -112] We all know that Oh Jong Hyuk is a good person. And we also all know that you're a bad person.



    Woah. This netizen know oh jong hyuk and soyeon personally to say who is good and who is bad ?

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  75. was t ara more popular than kara at thier hight before?

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  76. Knetz wont give up to destroy T-Ara.. try hard knetz..
    im actually amaze with this knetz..
    :'(
    leave T-ara alone..

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  77. I have to agree on that too but one more issue is that Kpop has grown.. globally.

    I don't know why some Kpop fans get pissed off when I tell them that Kpop is not really popular in Korea.

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  78. is that in the the lyrics or MV? I haven't checked out the ENG SUB yet.

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  79. not in all communities, in mine 25 is very very young. Women normally marry by 30 or 32 but that is so because of education/careers.

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  80. Do they really read it? It must be hurt them so much and they are really strong to deal with it. Must be really tough, the price they should pay for their fault.

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  81. You are right. And most of them keep on putting down the knetz, as if they are better then them when in fact they are worse. Generalizing the whole nation just because of some hateful comment left by SOME knetz to their OWN idol is beyond stupid. Even in my own country people on the net tend to overreact with their comment, and nobody give a shit about it, but here most people are getting butthurt over some comment probably left by hormonal teenagers. They dont worth your attention.

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  82. well there will be exceptions but it's definitely like in a lot of parts of asia

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  83. it's really sad how often it happens in real life too. not everything is about appearance, and what we see about idols and actors on tv is very two dimensional. and you love who you love regardless of whatever weird scale people seem to measure how much someone is worth with.

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  84. I think it's because they want to feel that their like for K-pop is accepted in some society, that's why most of them have the hope of livining in South Korea someday.

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  85. They really are strong. It really sickens me that they are getting this much hate. I was on that badwagon when it first happened, but now after realizing I don't know everything I've learned to just forgive and forget. plus honestly T-ara makes really good music. I feel really bad for them, if it wasn't for the scandal they would have been one of the top girl groups. Roly Poly would have gotten them there and Number Nine is really good. I just hope Korea stops with this hate. They're one of the girl groups that come out with pretty good songs. I'm cheering for them.

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  86. LOOL!!
    I've been on this site before y'all came.

    Kinda ruined it.....

    There was a time when people could actually voice an opinion without being killed.

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  87. The number of upvotes are dropping, they used to get to 10 thousand.

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  88. ''Hate me and I'll always be in your mind,love me and I'll always be in your heart.'' No matter what T-ara says or does,they are still relevant in netizen eyes.

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  89. not only in china, in my country too.. indonesia.
    if a woman reach 25, and still dont get married.
    their parents will rushly created blind date for that woman. its a cultural actually,
    because in past, usually women already married in their teens.

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  90. wow i'm impressed they're so strong mentally if they read the comments...

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  91. Currently jamming to No. 9. Yeah, they fucked up with the bullying scandal, but who here really likes t-ara for their character? I just love their music.

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  92. It's sad...
    Kpop will die for a year or two soon....
    And I don't understand why some fans think EVERYONE in Korea listens to Kpop!!
    If some fans go to Korea just for Kpop.... they are missing out on some great stuff.

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  93. I feel bad for T-ara. No one deserves this much hate. I'm sure they're not actually hated as much as netizens are making it sound, but still...

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  94. that's also a pet peeve of mine "didn't they say they liked her in the last article?" "why are koreans so (insert closed minded view based on 5 comments)" it's like reading youtube comments and generalizing an entire country based off of that. entertainment news in any language or country is bound to be shallow/petty. and you're right, it's always easier to ignore than argue tbh.

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  95. I more amazed to how t-ara can still survive from it. They are so strong.

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  96. Ever since T-ara's comeback, charting very well despite the many comebacks (not to mention IU, Busker Busker, Shinee etc), I've noticed that hater's comments have (more or less) loss all their impact. They are just empty words right now. I'm just happy that T-ara are still coming back with great songs like No.9 and because I know. T-ara Hwaiting; you'll always have strong supporters anywhere you go ^_^

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  97. But none of them know Soyeon personally enough to say how she is..

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  98. 1. [+473, -11] Their desperation to survive is only digging a deeper hole for themselves. I'm serious now when I say that T-ara is over now... there's no other celebrity that all of Korea unanimously hates like this both online and offline... They really have nowhere to turn to.



    Couldn't be more wrong. They still have their fans to turn to and other countries don't hate them. They still have a much bigger fandom than plenty of other groups like Girl's Day or Sistar.

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  99. Well thats my point. I have point out this things alot before and get a lot of thumbs down for it. It shows the level of their maturity. Just like sahra said, international fans gets really pissed when people tell them their idol is getting trashed in their own country or kpop has reach it limits. Well they should accept that. People are getting tired of it.

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  100. They still underestimate the Int. fans....

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  101. Charting in a nugu level.

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  102. It's Jiyeon's line early in the song.

    You are my tuxedo mask
    The hero who protected me

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  103. With the global growth I can't ensure if K-pop will die soon. But it's true that it's sad that fans are only interested in South Korean only because of K-pop. And It makes me feel pity because they just think about it in a imaginative way.

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  104. Not only T-ara is the best troll group, but they literally look like trolls now. What happened to your face, Soyeon?

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  105. Eh? I just remembered, didn't Hwayoung deny the bullying rumors a long time ago? Why is this still going on?

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  106. I feel pity for them knets have been hating them like forever

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  107. Lol ikr?


    But Idgaf. Regardless of whose oppar I step on, I'm going to voice my opinion whether it's liked or not.


    And I don't understand why people give into account what some some random person who probably lives half-way across the world says about a celebrity that they wouldn't probably never meet in real life?

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  108. they are both amazing.. LOL

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  109. I think the crave will die soon. I agree with you with whole kpop thing. Its like they are only interested in south korea because of kpop. I found drama and variety show are worth the watch. Its the drama that open the way for kpop to breakthrough.

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  110. "couldn't get a girl like soyeon..."
    that's like saying soyeon is this amazing girl that all men should be proud to get....
    isn't that statement hypocritical, especially when you've agreed with kilayli's statement of not truly being able to judge character simply through the monitor...sure, you're not able to tell if that person is bad but you're not able to tell if that person is good either.
    #justsaying

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  111. t-ara doesn't make the music though....the producers hired through ccm do.....in the end, ccm just knows how to hire good producers
    and if I were to be even more frank, their songs are starting to sound like bits and pieces of their previous tracks

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  112. Well she's beautiful and talented which I'm able to judge from seeing her photo or hearing her sing, and these netizens could never get a girl like that.

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  113. Because netizens don't believe there is any truth in denials. Like when idols and their companies say they aren't dating, who believes them? No one.
    Even if rumors are unfounded or false, people like to hate and criticize anyway. All idols are liars, apparently.
    Hwayoung- "they didn't bully me": lie.
    T-ara- "we didn't bully her": lie.

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  114. maybe why they keep going on is because in fact they still have a lot of fans, and those fans don't give a fuck to leave anything on comment sections, they do anything through actions. ok

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  115. they said in some interview number 9 is some kind of code name for a over the counter(?) painkiller

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  116. lets teach the more lesson okay~~~ BASHING TIME!!!

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  117. 3. [+1,171, -47] What is there to learn from these hateful comments? Unless they're learning new swears to use to bully someone else...

    Oh the hypocrisy in this comment just kills me.

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  118. Well that's just stupid, it's like they're looking for an excuse to hate.

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  119. Admittedly I'm no fan of T-ara, but that's exactly what I was thinking while reading the comments. There's still lots of people who enjoy their music and cheer for them. :S It's not like they're completely flopping on the charts.

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  120. Just because I don't take k-netizen's comments seriously.... makes me an AKP user?

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  121. "a girl like soyeon and BJY" probably meant someone who has talents and is well-known.

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  122. *overcome with a wave of nostalgia*
    my childhood of sailor moon, pokemon, buffy the vampire slayer, xena the warrior princess, cartoon network (when it used to be good)

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  123. Lmao
    I'll end up dead in a bath tub with picture of Kai aka the nigga if I talk
    shit about EXO. I still have to graduate university!

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  124. i couldnt stop laughing the first time i heard it.

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  125. He's a man who handles shit like a man. not a pussy to back out on someone he loves over something petty like this.

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  126. But then, likewise, these netz could've easily seen/heard something that made her look bad in their eyes as good as she looks in yours.

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  127. And no one says anything about kara..

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  128. these bitter netizens need to get over it

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  129. A lot of us do think their hate for KARA is just as bad and unnecessary.
    But the difference between T-ara's scandal and KARA's scandal is that T-ara's was based all around rumors, while KARA's started with Radio Star which was something that anybody is physically able to see 'firsthand' with no explanation needed. There's nothing we can do for KARA... Jiyoung cried about having to do aegyo, Hara didn't want to talk about the obvious, and one of the members said 'Go easy on us' even though Radio Star's concept is being brutal.
    We can't do anything for a situation like that when they caused it themselves, honestly.

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  130. Oh the hypocrisy on NB..


    you guys call knets bullies? most of you are exactly the same


    Knets may be hateful but at least they arent a bunch of bandwagon flip floppers who change they opinions everyday just to counter the latest popular opinion.

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  131. 5. [+606, -37] Oh Jong Hyuk's image was all the craze after his discharge but now it's hitting the floor since dating Soyeon ㅜㅜ


    Well.

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  132. You're an idiot, because we never changed our opinion about them, unlike knets did.

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  133. it was never funny

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  134. if knets are positive nm is negative and vice versa.

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  135. why does it seem like naver is comprized of mostly a bunch of bitter old Idol anti's?

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  136. LOL apparently you have to be mature your entire life considering they brought up their pre-debut actions too.
    The ironic "They were even worse during pre-debut" comment which is technically saying they're better now? xD

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  137. the difference is that the people here at one time may have flip flopped on their opinion of T-ara, but at least many people realized all that hate is just ridiculous at one point even if they actually believed the bullying rumors.


    many people here know when enough is enough yet k-netizens don't seem to grasp that idea for even a second.

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  138. "We're learning from the netizen comments" = we know how not to act because of you all LOL

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  139. I'm surprised that with their tight schedules they have time to read comments Netizens...

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  140. I'm surprised that with their tight schedules, they still find time to read comments from netizens.

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  141. The only question left in my mind since 1 year ago is "how can they be so strong to survive?"

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  142. It means they admitted to the bullying thing...O.o

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  143. As I know, ppl here always make a fun about everything k-net said. the 'akp' ppl who always take knetz comments seriously.

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  144. soooooo does that mean they did it? O_o

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  145. but that wasn't really my point.

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  146. I just hope their contract ends soon. They are suffering so much for their company.

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  147. So he was cool with them before his relationship with Soyeon was made public. Fickle, fickle fangirls. He doesn't need "fans" who are ready to jump ship and say his image is getting bad(I doubt it) when it's confirmed he's dating someone in T-ara.

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  148. wow i have a really poor image of k-netizen because of t-ara
    i can't understand how can anyone be that hateful asking from a band who worked hard to disbent all the fucking time.....what the hell will they gain when t-ara disband....they sound really stupid and immature to me
    i hope only retarded teenage girl comment there i don't wanna believe the korean ppl are this poor minded

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  149. It really depends on the topic. A lot of AKP users are kids.... so yeah!
    NB used to be a place where someone could voice their opinion and not get killed. This site has waaaay too many Kpop stans nowadays and it's sad. I don't mind Kpop fans it's just that some think that their oppa drink holy water everyday. Relax and accept the criticism.... lol
    Sorry for the essay-ish comment

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  150. well t-ara's scandal first started off with rumors but the hate didn't really start until their company started fucking things up

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  151. True, the company was the main problem and T-ara fans like myself acknowledge that CCM is led by a scumbag CEO and a horrific PR team

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  152. and you are missing our point.

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  153. The translation is somewhat misleading. The netizen is saying something like "You're not an immature high school kid anymore. You're an adult. Why are you not acting more mature and responsible?"

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  154. Comeback ScheduledOctober 15, 2013 at 1:51 AM

    It's a brave choice of a song because it not so subtly reminds people about the 9 members issue.

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  155. I think people are starting to not care about it. T-ARA isn't doing bad in charts (not as well as before controversy, but in their position you can't say that whole Korea is ignoring them) and most of comments about them was always around 5000 - 10000 votes up. Now it's only 1000+ for T-ARA and 3000+ for dating scandal.

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  156. As a group, I tried to like them in the beginning but their live stages are really bad. Despite having awesome songs, they have less energy on stage than f(x). Its like they are always tired, and their voices are always in a bad condition.



    However, ever since the bullying rumors started, I decided to investigate for myself... I watched a few episodes of hello baby to see their interactions in front of the cameras, then I watched a few fancams to see how they really behave, read different translations from their twitter messages (and this was very important).


    The bullying videos were easy to deconstruct... even on youtube, every time there was a bullying video, 3cm on the right, on the list of recommended videos, you could watch the "real" video and see for youtself that the bullying video was fabricated. And for people who follow kpop for a few years, they know that its not rare for companies or rival fandoms to create those things. They do this for SM groups all the time.



    Everything else made me realize that despite not being the closest group ever, and not the smartest group ever, they are far from being the evil bitches that some people believe.


    If anything (and this is just an empty guess), I think its much more feasible that the Hwayoung was the one causing trouble to the group, maybe because she didnt adapt to well to the idol life, or maybe because her personality clashed with a few of the other members. In my head, its much more easy to imagine one girl with a "fuck it" attitude, than seven girls breaking umbrellas and pushing people down stairs.


    The irony is that considering how bad bullying is in asian countries, and specially in Korea, I now want T-Ara to succeed as a group just to maybe see a counter-measure about these hateful comments some day.

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  157. ?? their company what?

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  158. I would bet that most of them are around 15 yo. At that age even 20+ are people whos life is over. :D

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  159. Well in my country, if you're single by 30, trust your neighbor's ajuma to make up all the bad rumour about you: "She's so picky", "May be she's les", "her family only accept rich person", "I hear that she's so annoying, that why"....

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  160. How dare you compare Ms.Baek to Soyeon?
    Soyeon is a fucking bully.

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  161. Kinda off topic but what does Number Nine mean? I just listened to the song and I'm confused. Is number nine the ninth lover they've had that they need so much?

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  162. You know Love Potion No.9? The luck with women in love and no such?

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  163. Not sure why you're getting so many downvotes when this is just the straight up truth....

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  164. No, because seeing somebody sing well is different to reading gossip that isn't based in any fact. 95% of the bullying "evidence" against T-ara was either completely fake or stuff that was taken out of context. Barely any of it, if any at all, had any real proof. Believing malicious gossip is different to hearing somebody sing well or seeing that somebody is pretty.

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  165. "A lot of us do think their hate for KARA is just as bad and unnecessary."
    wasnt everyone here hating on kara though? lol.

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  166. i still cant stop laughing and cringing at the same time

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  167. There's no proof that she is a bully other than a tweet about determination that was related to Hwayoung pulling out of a big performance that was due to be filmed for a DVD release.

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  168. I should have word it properly, T-ara HAS good music. I know they don't MAKE the music, but I also like their image and I think they sell their music well because of that. A lot of people have been saying that Number Nine sounds like the 'old T-ara" well I'm not a huge fan of T-ara so I don't know all their songs, but I will say whatever "sound" they're is really good and I recommend they keep doing it.

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  169. T-ara is going to be in the UN World Peace Festival. However, I'm having mixed feelings about this. *hard thought look*


    In the meantime, Knetizen on suicide watch. More T-ara news coming up this week.

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  170. I'm wondering who is buying their albums if "all of korea online/offline hates them"....I know they are not delusional enough to think ALL of the sales are coming from international fans. If ALL of Korea hated them, they wouldn't have even hit the top 25 in the charts. The fact that they hit in the top 10 at all should let them know that some people are over the issue.

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  171. Haha... Delusional international fans...

    Soyeon admitted that she was not getting along with Hwayoung.
    http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LPOD&mid=sec&sid1=&oid=019&aid=0002281572

    Soyeon admitted that she was both a victim of bullying and a bully herself.
    http://www.daejonilbo.com/news/newsitem.asp?pk_no=989054

    Even after the whole Hwayoung incident, she badmouthed her senior with her friends.
    http://magazinek.tistory.com/21

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  172. You're like "I'm able to judge people through the monitor but netizens aren't "
    Pls.

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  173. Ok, so let's say that Jacques meant that guys should be proud to get a well known and good singer like soyeon and the focus wasn't on personality. Then that's Jacques opinionated standard of what he/she looks for in a relationship. He/she saw/heard that soyeon has talent and so as long as she has that, guys should be grateful for a chance. But then that same concept can be applied to some of the netz who think otherwise. Since most of the "complaints" are about bad personality, they probably heard/saw something that made soyeon look like she has a bad personality and so could care less about her talents....iono if you've understood my point better
    I mean, take for example Seo Taiji - he's incredibly famous, talented and rolling in dough, but I dislike the man, think he's a douche and will never consider a chance at dating him to be something grateful for.. I don't value physical capabilities/appearances over personality (because that's not what I'm going to date) and I don't know the guy personally so I judge based on what I see like the rest of us.

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  174. I'm like half serious half joking (the first part is just giving you grief lol)
    But I agree that the color of their music suits them well - all the people under ccm have this similar "tone"....it's one of the things I can compliment ccm about even though I freaking hate them to the core.

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  175. lol some get satisfaction of using the downvote when they can't form a rational rebuttal (because deep down, they know it's just frank facts)

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  176. Performance-wise, they work better and more efficiently as a team. They have improved so good for them.
    As for the shit they,say, stfu and no Soyeon, we don't care about your boyfriend either.

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  177. no, they said "incident".

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  178. To this day it hasn't been properly explained, but if the bullying rumors weren't even the slightest bit real, then why lie about the tweets? Things started going crazy after ccm lied about the tweets.

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  179. So what if she had surgery? South Korea is the plastic surgery capital of the world. And obviously people go for others due to personality, but it's also a positive and attractive trait to have talent.

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  180. CCM lied about the tweets, though, not T-ara themselves, and even though it was a bad decision they probably did it because they knew how much netizens overreact to everything. Netizens live for dragging idols into scandals, unfortunately.

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  181. Now you're just twisting what I said to create negativity. Judging somebody on something tangible is different to judging them on rumours that may or may not be true.

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  182. I know what you are saying and it's very objective but we all know they are judging Soyeon on the bullying scandal, which to this day has never been proven beyond those tweets. Even Hwayoung said there was no bullying, yet netizens say she was "forced" to say that despite not having any proof to back up that claim.


    T-ara was 3rd or 2nd biggest girl group in K-pop before the scandal, so it's clear where all the hate is coming from.

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  183. Admitting you don't get along with somebody is different to admitting you BULLIED them. Even Hwayoung said there was no bullying.


    People need to understand that bullying and personality clashes are two entirely different things.

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  184. and so they thought that the best cover up to not escalate things drastically (because as you said, things get bigger online) was to say that everyone except qri got simultaneously hacked with practically the same messages?.....yeah.....ok.......
    and then the mudslinging that happened afterwards were simply innocent remarks.....

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  185. But the point is that the agency did this, not T-ara themselves. K-pop idols are controlled and managed by their agencies. People should just bash CCM, not T-ara themselves unless they have proper evidence that T-ara did something wrong other than that fake stuff netizens put out online. Even Hwayoung said there was no bullying, and this was after her contract termination, so I don't know why people are still so hung up on it. They should move on and just judge T-ara's music and concepts rather than judge them off rumours or things their agency did.

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  186. You're missing your own point tbh.
    Also, I don't think a girl who is beautiful and can sing well is everyone's dream girl.

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  187. i feel bad toward T-Ara now...........

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  188. Of course she's not everybody's dream girl, but she is still a quality girl. It's not like beauty and talent are BAD things. They're positives. And I'm not missing my own point. The point is you should judge someone on something tangible rather than something that may not be true.


    Basically what all these netizens are doing is online bullying towards T-ara (and many other celebrities) over rumours. It's not just simple criticism, but evil vicious things they say. They could at least judge them on their music or something, rather than a bunch of rumours and gossip from over a year ago.

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