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Saturday, August 31, 2013

Webtoon on a sinking 'Wonder Girls ship' surfaces


Article: [SS Webtoon] Two people 'smiling' at the sinking of the Wonder Girls ship

Source: Sports Seoul via Nate

The comic is basically the Wonder Girls ship sinking and Sunmi and Hyuna on the 4minute ship talking about how fortunate it is for them to not be on it.

1. [+1,268, -93] WG is only sinking because of Park Jin Young's obsession with America and Sunye's irresponsible act as the leader of the group. The members and the company staff begged her for a year to not do what she did but she did it anyway. And then Sunmi makes her comeback as a solo when she left the group in the first place to study... All three are the reasons for the WG's demise. Sohee, Yeeun, and Yoobin did their best until the very end. Unfortunate for Lim, but Yeeun has a shot at renewing her contract for her producing skills and I have a feeling Sohee will most likely move companies after her contract expires. JYP better not play dirty again and release trashy articles about her if she does choose to leave.

2. [+662, -54] My nephew used to shake his butt whenever Tell Me was played as a baby.. and now he's in elementary school. Time flies.

3. [+702, -104] I don't think the two people who are smiling are Sunmi and Hyuna but only the person who drew this comic and the journalist of the article...

4. [+127, -31] WG's demise is not because of Park Jin Young's American disease. He's the one who took a group full of girls who lack visuals, vocal talent, dance, variety, and talent and shot them to popularity by outfitting them with good songs. Everyone was against Sunmi going solo and thought she'd fail but Park Jin Young actually gave her a decent concept and song and she's doing well.

5. [+86, -54] What kind of webtoon is this... WG congratulated Hyuna on her birthday not too long ago and Sunmi's doing fine with them... Why is this article necessary

6. [+81, -57] Look at all the pissed off fans ㅋㅋㅋ This comic is spot on and well drawn ㅋㅋㅋ

7. [+76, -27] WG was only successful because of Park Jin Young's production skills. You look at the members objectively and they're lacking in everything from dancing, singing, visuals, to variety skills. People blame Park Jin Young for their demise but they should remember that WG wouldn't even be where they are right now without him.

8. [+44, -17] Isn't it going too far by putting out articles like this?????????????

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230 comments:

  1. DansheenMasheenChenAugust 31, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    But seriously, that's just cruel.

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  2. 1. [+1,268, -93] WG is only sinking because of Park Jin Young's obsession with America and Sunye's irresponsible act as the leader of the group. The members and the company staff begged her for a year to not do what she did but she did it anyway. And then Sunmi makes her comeback as a solo when she left the group in the first place to study... All three are the reasons for the WG's demise.



    You forgot the unloyal fanbase that quickly moved on to the next best thing.

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  3. I don't know what to feel about this.. it seems so harsh. WG hasn't completely sunk even if they aren't at the top anymore.

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  4. But Sunye and Yeeun are talented. And Sohee is considered pretty.

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  5. i guess they mean like each member lacks something. like sohee has the visuals but lacks talent and variety skills, yenny's very talented but some of them might say she lacks visuals, so like every member has to be like perfect LOL.

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  6. JYP and its groups became the new favorite targets this year.
    I don' t think it has actually something to do with k-netizens being pissed off but about them enjoying all this witch hunt.
    Most of them probably didn't care at all about the Wonder Girls before.

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  7. idk about the rest but Sohee will become so big if JYP let her act more. she did a good job in Happy Rose Day.

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  8. didn't know a comic can get 1000+ upvotes on nate O.o
    but yeah it's harsh, i still have a feeling that he will put sunmi instead of sunye in the future and the WG will be back again *fingers crossed*

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  9. to say the WG are not talented is just a nono, im not even a wonderful but talent wise WG are the best, minus for sohee and lim of course, but Yenny, Yubin and Sunye are all great!!!

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  10. 7. [+76, -27] WG was only successful because of Park Jin Young's production skills. You look at the members objectively and they're lacking in everything from dancing, singing, visuals, to variety skills. People blame Park Jin Young for their demise but they should remember that WG wouldn't even be where they are right now without him.

    True! Love him or hate him WG alone could have never achieved the success they did if it weren't for JYP.

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  11. As a wonderful, comic made me pretty sad. And I totally agree with #1

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  12. I hope JYP lets Sohee go. She should join an acting agency. Focus on acting and modeling.

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  13. "4. [+127, -31] WG's demise is not because of Park Jin Young's American disease. He's the one who took a group full of girls who lack visuals, vocal talent, dance, variety, and talent and shot them to popularity by outfitting them with good songs."\
    excellent point, everyone is busy hating on this guy - including me lol-
    but i never thought of it this way, i mean we have to admit.. jyp did make them a solid group

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  14. " He's the one who took a group full of girls who lack visuals, vocal talent, dance, variety, and talent and shot them to popularity by outfitting them with good songs"

    So Sunye and Yeeun lack vocal talent? Lim is a good dancer, but with the WG's choreography she cannot prove it. Yeeun is a amazaing composer/writer.
    Sohee is very pretty (for Korean standards) and she is a good actress. And Yubin can rap, not as good as real rappers, but she's a good idol-rapper.

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  15. 7. [+76, -27] WG was only successful because of Park Jin Young's production skills. You look at the members objectively and they're lacking in everything from dancing, singing, visuals, to variety skills. People blame Park Jin Young for their demise but they should remember that WG wouldn't even be where they are right now without him.



    THIS. This can be applied to most groups actually, none of them would be anywhere without hit songs no matter how talented they are, and many mediocre groups can still become huge because of hit songs. Wonder Girls are a good example, they have some talented members, and some talentless member(s), but even if they were better or worse, it's all because of Tell Me that they became huge. The song made them popular, and JYP is the one that made it. Whichever group that got that song would become superstars, WG are lucky they were the one. People give him all the hate for ruining WG but he's also the reason they were loved in the first place.

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  16. Actually it might only be for female groups. Look at how well male idols do after a hiatus.

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  17. "The members and the company staff begged her for a year to not do what she did but she did it anyway" oh?? and is there proof of this? :|

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  18. "The members and the company staff begged her for a year to not do what she did but she did it anyway."
    Netizens keep saying this but is there an actual interview or article where the members or jyp stuff say that?

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  19. Who would actually be happy to see their peers fail?

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  20. No funny just childish tbh

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  21. ''Why is this article necessary''


    MTE

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  22. not all fans only like ONE group also their bias group change with time.
    Look at EXO and their fans, many of them used to be Cassies, ELFs, Shawols, Sones, etc.

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  23. this is harsh but this is what webtoons usually are. they discuss hot topics through their web series and it's not like people haven't been saying this for the last few years

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  24. JYP gave WG really good and catchy songs.

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  25. "Two people 'smiling' at the sinking of the Wonder Girls ship"
    but that ship will be forever in kpop history
    but I wonder if anyone will remember these two "smiling" people !

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  26. But I'm pretty sure Sohee will do well in acting. and acting career > singing career as idol. I love Sunmi and Hyuna and I support them and I'm glad they're doing well but this webtoon is a fail because not all the other members will fail as solo, we never know... Who would have thought Hyuna and Sunmi would do well after leaving WG and trying a 2nd time? So why not believing that other WG members can also do well after trying something else now that they're out of WG? It's up to them to choose the right contracts in the right agency and do the right promos. I trust Sohee to make the right decisions and choose good roles.


    Btw WG don't "all" lack looks, talents, variety etc. do these people even know WG? They're no different from other groups. but anyway their last concepts (especially 2DT) did ruin their looks lol but when you watch So Hot live, how could you think they lack visual? and 2YE (as well as Sunmi) can sing. Sohee can act. That's talent. Finally, their variety skills got worse after US, but before US they're pretty fun on their own shows.

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  27. actually their fanbase is very loyal to them. It's the public that moved on

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  28. I'm sorry but the last pannel made me lol so hard


    On a more serious note, I do find it sad what's happening to the WG, but I hope they all can do the best of it..

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  29. 7. [+76, -27] WG was only successful because of Park Jin Young's production skills. You look at the members objectively and they're lacking in everything from dancing, singing, visuals, to variety skills. People blame Park Jin Young for their demise but they should remember that WG wouldn't even be where they are right now without him.

    THIS. This can be applied to most groups actually, none of them would be anywhere without hit songs no matter how talented they are, and many mediocre groups can still become huge because of hit songs. The song Tell Me made them popular, and JYP is the one that made it. Whichever group that got that song would become superstars, WG are lucky they were the one. People give him all the hate for ruining WG but he's also the reason they were loved in the first place.

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  30. lol it's funny! (and I love wonder girls)

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  31. the worse is when they even start new fansite when they already had one for their "former oppa"..

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  32. 1000+ upvotes because it's Wonder girls, they were the nattional girls group before snsd, Koreans still love them , they didn't forget unlike internationals fans.

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  33. lordd give it a rest already. netizens are like a broken record when it comes to wg. even as a fan, idgaf. idol groups have short lived careers anyways. maybe this is a good chance for the members to explore solo activities.


    and stop calling sunye selfish ffs. for someone with her background, it's not surprising that she would want to get married young. at least jyp lets his artists live their life the way they want.

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  34. in the world of business and entertainement? a lot.

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  35. hyuna? yes
    sunmi? i don't know.

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  36. R.I.P Wonder Girls...T^T

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  37. lol mte. there's a reason why idols don't have long careers. teen fans are fickle as fuck.

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  38. Uh, considering that they were former members of the group who achieved solo popularity, people will remember them....

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  39. [+81, -57] Look at all the pissed off fans ㅋㅋㅋ This comic is spot on and well drawn ㅋㅋㅋ

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  40. eh I disagree.you could say the same for other groups tbh. the face is usually the least talented, the talented one is usually not the best looking, there's always some members who are only in the group for entertainment purposes.



    that's why these people are put in a group. they all lack in certain areas.

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  41. all i have too say is that webtoon person got too much time on his hand to
    he needs to use it for something productive

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  42. FFS they're on a hiatus Sun is married and having a damn baby. The hysterical reaction to this group taking a time out is unbelievable! Does anyone ever think that Wonder Girls might enjoy taking some time for themselves? I'm sure Sohee definitely is. People please calm down and worry about Wonder Girls when they're actually active. Right now they're on a hiatus so CHILL.

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  43. I think Sones along with blackjacks are one of the most loyal fans I don't think sones left snsd for exo if anything the ones that now like exo still love snsd.

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  44. yeah i agree too. but these are knetz so ofc they'll hate them if they're not perfect.

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  45. It goes to American artists too.Many talented people don't shine because they didn't have hit songs.Talent was never enough

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  46. You menan the next pretty young thing since people follow the trend these days and want to be fans of top groups just because they are popular

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  47. As a fan of the wonder girls, it really sucks reading this right now. through it all, I've supported these girls ~ I don't know what to expect, but I'm glad to be a fan of theirs and getting to know them & I know 20 years from now, I'll still be fan.

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  48. Although I am not a Wonder Girls' fan since I was not into Kpop when they were at their peek, I feel like their disband will be such a huge blow to Kpop because they have played a very important role in the Kpop industry. I remember hearing about Wonder Girls before I was into Kpop, which showed that they almost made it at the door, but for some reason fell short. Before I was into Kpop, the media was talking about them, including Perez Hilton. They were spreading their videos around, and I took a peek at them. At that time, I didn't think too much of them nor Kpop. Years later, I ended up getting into Kpop through Asian movies, JPop, and finally Asian dramas, including Korean.This is how I got into Kpop 5 years ago. So in essence, living in America, I was exposed to their group before any of the other Kpop groups. I hope they don't disband.

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  49. and that's fine but look at all the other groups with members who can sing better than TOP groups or look/act better than them etc. but they are still nugus. JYP's production of that group in for the first few years was spot on and shot them to the top.

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  50. Wow whoever did this. no need to add salt to WG's fans. and AMEN on JYP.

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  51. were they not part of the Wonder Girls and one of them during their prime?

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  52. now look how you mentioned one quality for each member and none almost none overlapped

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  53. Literally every single k-pop group is like that though. That's why they're all in GROUPS and not solo

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  54. i'm still a sone and a shawol too beside being an exo fan
    also a v.i.p ^^

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  55. This could be said basically about any group tho.

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  56. JYP ruined them, plain and simple.

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  57. WG are nothing without him..
    JYP = Yang Jang Phi

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  58. How about WG then?
    Recruit new members?
    Disband??

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  59. 4. [+127, -31] WG's demise is not because of Park Jin Young's American disease. He's the one who took a group full of girls who lack visuals, vocal talent, dance, variety, and talent and shot them to popularity by outfitting them with good songs. Everyone was against Sunmi going solo and thought she'd fail but Park Jin Young actually gave her a decent concept and song and she's doing well.

    This is what I've said few days ago. Think about how Sohee can survive with singer title! Don't forget Chansung, even until know, it's so embarassing hearing him sing "Suddenly" live. And it's almost five years since their debut. JYPE made them. If only they made them to be actors...

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  60. "one of the most loyal fans"
    They all says this...

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  61. why is that a bad thing lol is there a rule that they can only stan one oppa for their entire life.

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  62. What? fans has responsibility for WG's life in entertainment industry? Dongwan of shinhwa said he wasn't responsible for his fans, and that's really logical for me. Why would fans responsible for idol's either?

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  63. It literally could be said about anyone.
    ex: If Justin Timberlake hadn't met Timbaland he'd be just another washed up boybander...

    If Mariah Carey hadn't met Tommy Motola she'd still be a back-up singer...

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  64. Not sure why anyone would think Yenny is ugly.. she's the best looking to me, but people's standards are weird.

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  65. There is in Korea, lol.

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  66. Agencies create groups to attract more fans ,not because of talent.

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  67. All about connections after all.I can be a good singer and good dancer but i will never make it if i don't know someone who will make a hit for me and promote me.

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  68. I love 2ne1 but most of their fans are VIPs or were former VIPs.

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  69. "a group full of girls who lack visuals, vocal talent, dance, variety, and talent" a bit harsh ehh?

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  70. i think most blackjacks are vips at the same time

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  71. I mean...their contracts renewel/expire date is coming up. If anything I feel if another girl leaves JYP is just going to disband them or retire the name Wonder Girls. The others main goal was music so I am sure they would try to come up in a new company or with JYP as a solo or new duo group. But Sohee wanted to focus on acting for so long and this is her chance to do that.

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  72. [+127, -31] WG's demise is not because of Park Jin Young's American disease. He's the one who took a group full of girls who lack visuals, vocal talent, dance, variety, and talent and shot them to popularity by outfitting them with good songs. Everyone was against Sunmi going solo and thought she'd fail but Park Jin Young actually gave her a decent concept and song and she's doing well.

    Though, not many idol groups are talented in people's eyes, wg severely lacks in what idols group need the most - visual & variety. People give JYPE so much flack (and I do too) for the demise of WG, but he is also the person who singlehandedly bring WG to the status that they were based on his composing skills alone. WG is a group who is more famous for their songs than the group itself imo. And WG only got so big because they got no competition (except SNSD and KARA) and they hit it big with the right song at the right time.

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  73. asdfghjklqwertyuiopAugust 31, 2013 at 8:44 PM

    they are not out standing in terms of vocals,dancing or visuals they just had good songs produced by jyp not every girl group is like that

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  74. True, but to be fair, their fandom wasn't strong to begin with. They got popular through the love of the public. They were gone for a long time, and the girl group implosion happened. The public predictably moved on, but if they had a stronger fandom, they could've withstand it.

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  75. asdfghjklqwertyuiopAugust 31, 2013 at 8:48 PM

    NO some group has

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  76. Thats what I meant. But I'm saying I think most of their fans came from BIGBANG. Its not only YG. This happens to many labels were they would be interested in the new group to debute and become their fans.

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  77. Why would sun having a baby make them go on hiatus she isn't going to comeback

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  78. Wait, the wonder girls are not considered pretty?

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  79. That's why boggling my mind the most.

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  80. asdfghjklqwertyuiopAugust 31, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    lol some sones may like exo but they dont really change fandom of the sones are fanboys who give a fuck about exo and some girls may like exo but their girlgroup bias tends to be SNSD sones are too loyal for that,,,exotics dont comapare to sones in size

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  81. asdfghjklqwertyuiopAugust 31, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    they were average on kpop beauty standards and they were always compared with SNSD since they were rivals at that time, thats where their problems rise

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  82. Depends on your standards.

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  83. Wonder Girls are the Titanic of kpop? O.o
    I hope JYP figure something out before WG really disband..

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  84. It seems like JYP gives his groups really good catchy songs in the beginning and then just slacks off. WG's, 2PM, and Miss A all had their best songs early on.

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  85. I think it'd be really hilarious/interesting if everything mentioned in Comment #1 happened as predicted.


    Like... yeah, I guess if Sohee wants to focus on being an actress... switching companies when her contract with JYP expires (this year, right?) is a smart career move. I hope that nasty articles aren't going to be written about her, but if they are then that'd just be another reason to tell all of JYP stans 'I fucking told you so'.


    Alright. Let's just see what happens.

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  86. Of course he did, but the point is he was also the one to break them by pushing them onto America and failing. He should have realized it wasn't going to work and pulled them out early. The American promotions made the girls dispirited and led to their prolonged hiatus. They can never come back because the public has moved on.


    New groups have come up since then, and Wonder Girls is old as a concept.

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  87. asdfghjklqwertyuiopAugust 31, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    heck all the members including sohee which was the best looking in the group was not really visually that attractive for koreans and sunye was the only decent vocalist other including yenny were not that good,as for dancing over all it was not good enough and their variety skills sucked they basically lacked in every aspect they were only lucky to get hits while there were no other relavent girl groups around

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  88. Yubin gorgeous and I thought Sohee was the it girl.

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  89. And now he is doing anew girl group.... -___- please he should fucus on worder girls ( make a subunite, or let them do solos, or jus put sunmi in BUT DO SOMETHING!) and make a Miss A comback!! bfore he do other girl gruop that star with a good debut and after that let them die!....

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  90. If you think about it, about one out of three people are "talented" in the sense that they can hold a tune, as if they are not totally tune-deaf or have a strange voice, a lot of people can be trained to sing moderately well, enough for a pop song where you would have to sing about five lines at the most if you are in a group, so "talent" is a much-abused word when referring to idols in k-pop.


    However, someone with outstanding talent, as opposed to mediocre talent (has talent enough to carry a tune), such as Hyorin in Sistar, are few and far between.

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  91. I really hate that they are putting blame on Sunye for deciding to getting married and have a family. I think it's known by everyone that WG were in their demise WAY before we knew Sunye had plans of getting married.


    Can't they find the beauty of starting a family? I don't know if Sunye is ever going back to WG, but their sinking is NOT her fault. JYP did screw up.


    Idol careers are supposed to be short-lived anyways

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  92. When they first debuted, they were compared to SNSD & KARA a lot in terms of looks. SNSD had the 'innocent' beauties & appealed more to the general public, while KARA were sort of introduced as the next Fin.K.L.


    But a few months after the debut they came out with 'Tell Me' & blasted to superstardom.

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  93. Don't exaggerate. We can say that you being a fan of Wonder Girls or kpop are over-touchy about this subject being brought up.


    It's just a trend to talk about WG because one of their members has a new single, and probably JYP had something to do with this as part of the media play to promote this single.

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  94. Yeah, Yoobin is hot.. it's like people are completely forgetting her now lol.

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  95. If Sunye wanted to get mmaried is ok, but she should have just talk with JYP and oficially left the group, I think the other girls cant do anything like "worder girls" bcuz she is not there, they have to do it , so they could try the group survive. Not make fans think she will be back, bcuz with a baby and Idols crazy schedules, she will have it hard....

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  96. I am glad Wonder Girls have sunk because all kpop bands have a certain shelf life and this kind of group doesn't deserve to have a long life. It's good in a way that they went to America and realized they weren't all that as they thought and even in Korea, were just a passing fad. I wish other groups would undergo the same fate actually. Some of the members of these groups are a bit long in the tooth to be hanging around in kpop and are too old to do the cutesy stuff that is de rigeur for idol groups any more.

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  97. tbh its jyp fault as to why WG is a sinking ship. not anyone else's. its no use repeating it over and over again like a broken record, cause we all know the story. yea he was responsible for them to getting where they are but also to their demise. time for ppl to move on

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  98. SNSD=VISUALS+VOCALS+DANCE,,

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  99. Disagree with 2pm. ADTOY was their best title track yet, it's a shame it didn't do well.

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  100. lol exotics are fools if they think those soshi fans can be swayed like that,,, sones basically love them just like exotics love their oppas and their fanboy army is not really liking exo that much ...

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  101. no in terms of vocals only sunye ,dance is their one of the weak point and variety talent is the one they lacked the most

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  102. agreed 2pm's best work till that

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  103. not the case with soshi because they have got both public and their fandom support ,,,in army SNSD is the religion even PSY said that

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  104. Sohee is one of the most popular visuals, and even this year she ranks in the top 5 of many idols beauty rankings. Not every girl group have a Sohee.

    Sunye is a good vocalist, she isn't at Hyorin or Taeyeon level, but she is definitely among the 10 best vocalists of girl groups.

    Yenny is one of the best female idols composers, in fact, few female idols write or compose. Not every girl group have a Yenny.

    and imo Yubin, among idols, is just below Miryo, CL, Jucy, LE in rap skills.

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  105. But, like in WG, just few members has visuals (Hyoyeon, Sooyoung, Sunny don't fits the Korean standard of beauty). Not all members have vocal talent or are good dancers.

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  106. But she still can be a actress in JYP. Their acting department is doing good, many JYP idols/actor get roles in big movies and dramas.

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  107. asdfghjklqwertyuiopAugust 31, 2013 at 9:54 PM

    basically none of them are any thing special even from reading what you wrote,, sohee was popular for some time due to her monoeyelid different korean image but after a while general public was really bored of her esp after the rise of snsd and karas they never standout in any thing

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  108. I love how Sunmi has the little life-raft and Hyuna has the big ass boat. But I also feel bad for laughing.

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  109. Sunye and Yeun could beat out Hyorin any time of the day, don't mistake a nice tone for amazing singing either, And i don't think neither of the three fall victim to what you are describing quite frankly,

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  110. asdfghjklqwertyuiopAugust 31, 2013 at 10:01 PM

    who said that sunny have more fanboys than sohee after INvincible youth she became really popular..soo young is really popular now,,,hyo yeon was even praized by neitzens for looking pretty since "the boys " era and the other members are all visuals ,,

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  111. i agree with a.d.t.o.y, but the question here is 'catchy, can resonate with the mass and not necessarily 'the best.'

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  112. I don't hate him but I find his focus a bit scattered, that is the issue for me. He creates amazing groups that become really popular but then he kind of puts them on the back burner (at least their promotions in Korea) and focuses on his other groups. Maybe he is just stretching himself too thin, he can't concentrate on all of them at the same time. At least not on the level that he likes to be, because he is very involved in the composition and production of the music.

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  113. ....I'm already pressed and this just makes me sad. It's one thing if I got into WG in the middle of their career, but as a person who's been there since day 1, the fact that they're just a fraction of what they were is upsetting.
    And Ye Eun should be given her own room and reigns to her own production work, like GD....

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  114. Yes, you are right. If SNSD had formed on their own they definitely would have achieved the same level of success that they have now just based on their out-of-this world talents alone.

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  115. lol entire snsd is the standard of beauty in korea ,,,

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  116. Even if Yoona and Suzy are now the most popular visuals Sohee's still at the top 5. The general public remember her, and that is enough, the majority of female visualas don't has that.

    "they never standout in any thing" They stand out being the number 1 girl group before SNSD took the title, "Tell Me" and "Nobody" are legend. Very few groups have that.

    If only a idol can have the tile of "best vocalist" or "best dancer" does not mean that the other vocalists are not good. Sunye still being one of the best female vocalists.

    and can you name me other girl groups where its members stand out in terms of vocals,dancing or visuals? I can only think in few.

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  117. thank you for saying that, 'a lot of young kpop fans need to realize that life is not all 'cakes and rainbows' for us as well as the idols, and must really stay away from the ridiculous line, 'oppa/unni is the best.'

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  118. I'm sorry but if you think there's a large amount of k-pop groups where EVERY SINGLE member greatly excels at singing, dancing, variety etc. you're delusional.

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  119. So if they're praised so much for their beauty why in every ranking about beauty Hyoyeon and Sunny are in the bottom?

    Yenny's and Yubin's beauty was praised for the netizens sometimes too.

    "Hyo yeon was even praized by neitzens for looking pretty since "the boys " era"
    Don't fool yourself, that are Sones comments. In many netizen buzz articles about her she's being bashed for her looks. The same with Sunny, she can have more fanboys than Sohee (that possibly are sones). But for the general public Sohee is prettier.

    In the end, beauty is subjective. About talent, don't all the Snsd members are good vocalists or dancers.

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  120. Sunye and Sohee yes, but the others not.

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  121. [+76, -27] WG was only successful because of Park Jin Young's production skills. You look at the members objectively and they're lacking in everything from dancing, singing, visuals, to variety skills. People blame Park Jin Young for their demise but they should remember that WG wouldn't even be where they are right now without him.



    I don't really like him, but this is true.

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  122. Those 3 you mentioned still attract a lot of admirers for their beauty.

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  123. Grown is a really good album.

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  124. hew was talking about snsd tho

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  125. asdfghjklqwertyuiopAugust 31, 2013 at 10:42 PM

    calm your craps down never said WG are ugly but it is a fact WG is average looking it is a fact and not only that their vocals other than sunye is not worth mentioning ,,,your argument is invalid while the oppositin made a fortune out of thier visuals prowess and not only visuals even hyo the least popular in soshi gets on cover page of mag was more than their main visual does soshi ,,,nuff said

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  126. This basically sum it up.

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  127. Just another netizenAugust 31, 2013 at 10:58 PM

    Yeah, I'm pretty sure WG was given "worst variety show guests" (in terms of their activeness/funniness) on a variety show.

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  128. Just another netizenAugust 31, 2013 at 10:58 PM

    "The members and the company staff begged her for a year to not do what she did but she did it anyway."


    Really? o.o...

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  129. lol I'm just browsing this thread, but holy shit. You should be taking English lessons instead of wasting your time white knighting for Soshi when no one was even talking about them. Your english is so fucking awful I had to read that 4 times to even grasp what your point was.

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  130. Shinhwa Changjo (15 years ) ..

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  131. asdfghjklqwertyuiopAugust 31, 2013 at 11:00 PM

    sorry but my native tongue is not english and you are being a bitch

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  132. That doesn't bother me. Like I said, It would serve you better to invest your time improving your terrible English and reading comprehension. Learn from Seohyun, xoxo.

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  133. I think these last years KARA took Wonder girls position.

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  134. yenny is great honestly, her talent is amazing.

    but i disagree on the others. sunye has a great tone but her technique is really bad, she's definitely not top 10 amongst female idols, a good vocalist but not one of the greats, a top 20 is more reasonable. yubin is honestly not that great of a rapper either, she's an idol-level rapper just like CL, okay for an idol but not good enough to really make it further.

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  135. I LOLed at the drawing of Hyuna :(


    But I really feel that the Wonder Girls' fall from fame came from JYPE's decision to send them to America. Even with Park Jinyoung's great songs, if you leave the scene for too long, people are still going to forget you.

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  136. T___T idk who the hell is "smiling" to be honest.. not funny...
    "irresponsible act"?? how the heck marrying the man you love and having a baby with him is irresponsible? im kinda suprised some people recognize JYP isnt at fault... his JYP whisper bothers the hell out of me and I think he should accept other people's songs for his artists more often but he did his best to make WG popular and he did. people can say all they want but WG ARE a bit part of K-pop in general, I personally had no idea what K-pop was about when I first watched them perform Tell me+Nobody I couldnt help but search more and more about K-pop.

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  137. Honestly, the idea of having a new JYP girl group debuting got me a bit upset. I really want an actual WG comeback with SunMi before the end of this year!!

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  138. Agree and why not just get WG to return with SunMi already? Why is JYPE making us watch SunMi dance in her barefoot on stage -____-
    Screw, SunYe. Why does the whole of WG have to 'wait' for her when you got SunMi? Yenny can carry the group well.

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  139. i think this applies to the international fandom. kvips did give their support at first, but now a majority can care less about 2ne1. atleast that's what i've seen over the years.

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  140. Agree... But they were gone from Korea for too long. Plus, I don't think Korea has really let go of the DUI thing yet either. :/

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  141. yeeun did said that in one of her interview ..

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  142. Keep telling yourself that. Wonder Girls will surely enjoy their popularity as a group slowly fade away over the course of the 2 years Sun needs to raise her child. *end sarcastic comment*

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  143. But she could have more offers by going to a company with more actors and less idols. You know, let her try roles that are outside of her character. Not hating much in JYP's act-dols, just....the characters they play are always the sweet good person or the person you are supposed to like. Boring roles that keep their idol image, not really changing much or even acting.

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  144. can't they just leave them alone...? stop with all these sarcastic act! its not fun and its not nice. yes, they are not at the top of their game, so what??? they dont have life anymore?? they're dead if they're not wg? why people like to pick on them so much i dont get it...REALLY DONT GET IT!! dont they know how nice people wg members are... have they had any dirty scandal before ? what make them hate wg so much? they just live their life the way they wanted..and their future? nobody know what will happen in the future anyway so why feel so butthurt of what happen in the present... i'm sure if they work hard now, they will be success in d future... dont they aware of the fact that idol's life span is short..
    i hate the people who pick on them the most!! please... things getting ugly like this... just accept them as what they're now...

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  145. I don't think they said that, either.
    They probably mean that groups are groups because there's something for everyone. There's always a certain type or concept given to each member for others to feel attached and connected to.
    Also, saying that literally every k-pop group lack visuals, dance, variety and singing skills but have good songs are untrue, too. That's where the concept thing comes in again, there's gonna be at least one member that excels in dance and another that excels in singing and another in variety and so on in which that's what makes up the formula for a k-pop group.
    The exception to the WG was that none of them excelled in those things in particularly, but JYP gave them great songs and unique concepts to shoot them to the top.

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  146. JYP's staff member begged Sunye for a year? Really? Did Sunye really has bargaining potition higher than Park Jin Young or her CEO? So Sunye really could do what she wants to do, freely? I don't think so. I think their contract including about marriage too. There was highly chance they couldn't get married when they are still active as an idol, at least before their contracts expired. I don't know why Park Jin Young and JYP's CEO 'freely' gave their permission to Sunye.


    Some people whining about a idol group couldn't stand without a leader, Miss A doesnt' have a leader btw. After school and Tara even change their leader many times before. If Wonder Girls couldn't continue their promotion because lack of their vocal talent because Sunye was their lead/main vocal like Taeyeon for Snsd or Boom for 2ne1 or Hyorin for Sistar, so it seems a little hard to handle *i believe another WG members can sing too, maybe just vocal quality a little bit decrease*.

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  147. actually 2ne1 just perform without Bom, she is sick right now again =( ... But they still did very good.

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  148. Yubin was Taecyeon's level though..
    Taecyeon was bad rapper

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  149. Yeah, even now the Wonder Years is still one of my favourite kpop albums to listen to. They had a really great sound and a consistent concept that was really refreshing.

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  150. Because of you named your display by putting "GD" it doesnt mean you can smoke up taec was a bad rapper like that easily. Based on what?? Come on ppl arguments who badmouthing his skill rap?? He is good enough as rapper!

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  151. Snsd is losing public support especially bc there last two comebacks was not up to par to how well soshi usually does

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  152. I bet those ppl saying she is selfish are just a bunch of pathetic 20-30 years old woman whom didnt getting married yet.

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  153. Hyuna is already a bigger name than individual wonder girls members. Leaving WG was probably the best decision of her life she should go thank the heavens for that. I guess looking at hyuna people can patience is a virtue. Hyuna was originally was supposed to have the omona part that shot sohee to fame people including me felt pretty bad for hyuna she lost an opportunity of a lifetime. But look at that girl now damn. Patience pays off.

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  154. what are these netizens smoking lol acting like WG are totally talentless....... sunye and ye eun can both sing (not to mention ye eun's composition skills), sohee can dance, sunmi can hold a tune and dance well enough to pull off solo, shit even lim's a decent rapper.....the only weak link i can think of is yoobin.

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  155. This is just so so rude. No group or idol will last forever. Some stay on longer than others, but eventually new groups will take over. It's a cycle. We don't go around calling all these groups or idols sinking ships.

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  156. I know right. Do they think WG members can go on being popular in their current state? I think Sunye's marriage/pregnancy was a good reason for them to ease out naturally without seeming like they flopped and disband. Too bad some Wonderfuls failed to realise that and blame it on Sunye which only made the group look pathetic.


    I always wonder how some of the top group will 'end'. Whether it was because of an internal scandal among the members? Or maybe the contract just naturally ends? Or problems with the company? I just hope that the top group here will end when they are still on a high or at least decent level. I don't want them to end when they are in the pits.

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  157. Don't really care about Sohee. She should be the selfish one if anyone were to be blamed. She has been getting the popularity without having to improve vocally.

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  158. JYP brought them to US which made them lost the top spot to SNSD. Sunmi's departure made them drop to B-level idols.

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  159. Yeeun said that to hurt Sunye and paint a bad impression of Sunye to the fans and the public.

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  160. I don't think it was an interview. She did not say that in interview. It was a fan chat session and she just betray Sun by saying all that to the fans.

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  161. She's really ugly, face and heart.

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  162. Why can't others do anything 'WG'?
    You got to understand that fans already knew WG was ending wayyyyy before Sunye make the marriage announcement. It was only a matter of time.

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  163. WG isn't a sinking ship. It is just a ship at the harbour waiting to move on again.

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  164. First i'm not a fan of Wonder Girls or JYP, and second, for someone who is known here to spend his time to harass every SM groups on every SM articles, it's funny how you have the nerve to tell someone else that he is being over-touchy and to not exagerate lol

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  165. Kara wishes boo. The only group comparable to wg is gg and that's because of gee alone. There is still a group to match up to the four pitch fever that wg succeeded back in their hey day.

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  166. What did I exaggerate about SM?


    Seems like you're a pathetic SM stan.

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  167. What makes you think I said Hyorin only has a nice tone and nothing else?

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  168. srl, KARA may take WG's position... in another life time.

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  169. Mariana Ferreira AlbuquerqueSeptember 1, 2013 at 7:29 AM

    " Everyone was against Sunmi going solo and thought she'd fail but Park Jin Young actually gave her a decent concept and song and she's doing well. "


    K-Netz will never realise that he isn't the CEO anymore.

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  170. woww, what a harsh reality

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  171. Shining EXOtic_SooYoungSeptember 1, 2013 at 8:33 AM

    The cartoonist and the journalist are the one's who fault at this.

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  172. if they debut now no one will care bcuz they are lacking in everything. they just got lucky no competition during their peak era!

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  173. Actually, JYP wrote 24 hours..........

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  174. Why can't he just let WG go. Kpop groups have their highs and lows and the wondergirls were on an immeasurable level of success back in the day. They can't continue that shit forever they need to move on to their own lives. Just look at TVXQ their time has passed but theyre still legends in kpop

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  175. How is marrying the love of your life and having a child an irresponsible act? The idol industry in Korea is horrible. Long strenuous hours living under a microscope with very few rewards. I remember reading an article that said that an idol group gets paid as little as $140 for a music show performance and that despite their success some idols make as little as $24 000 USD a year. That's the same yearly salary as a full time retail salesperson.

    I respect Sunye for making the decision that was best for her and I wish her and her beautiful new family lots of happiness.

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  176. I love his rapping style..you can't judge he is bad rapper.

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  177. Even until now, it's so awesome seems like pride that maknae has improve a lot in singing. Stop badmouthing please come on grow up.

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  178. JYP both made them and broke them, so we can't fully blame him for them sinking.
    Also people should stop blamming Sunye, look, how many groups per year lose members and add many at once and yet still come back, and always even better every time, because the changes were done for a reason! Even if sometimes in the dark the reason behind the members changes are truly shady and merciless, an ending can truly be another beginning, wonder girls' being reborn or something.

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  179. i think his downfall is that he makes everything seems about him.. i mean with the stupid jyp whispers, the stupid cameos ..

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  180. he is a lot of better in acting.

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  181. conclusion : the person/whoever involved in making this webtoon@cartoon is really rude . well, obviously he/she/they dont know what future will bring . who knows, WG will manage to go back to their 'Tell Me' era where they become madly famous ??

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  182. well also male idols lose many fans if a new hot thing appears but male idols can gain easily new fans after a hiatus unlike female idols.

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  183. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'M SORRY but that was pretty funny. I mean I laughed out loud XD

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  184. I'm sorry if I laughed at the last panel. But really, this situation is a station that idol groups will have to face sooner or later. There will come a point where a member will leave and it's up to the group to continute. However because it's Wonder Girls and it's JYP that's why it's a major scene in the industry. Whatever the members' decisions would be, we just have to respect it.

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  185. "He's the one who took a group full of girls who lack visuals, vocal talent, dance, variety, and talent and shot them to popularity by outfitting them with good songs."

    Hmm, as a longtime Brown Eyed Girls fan, this only makes me all the more bitter that it was basically a hook-song ("Tell Me") and nothing more that scuttled BEG's prospects in 2007. :/ As noted, it wasn't as if WG collectively had extraordinary singing/rapping talent, certainly not by comparison to BEG. But whatever, what's done is done, and my unnies are still together and making music as the same quartet they've always been. Seven years officially (eight unofficially), and going strong!

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  186. But he doesn't schedule their activities does he? He only produces the music (maybe I'm wrong, but the last few years he at least did..)

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  187. I think every company has a sort of "trademark" that they sometimes need to get away from. However lately he's been a lot better, he hasn't used the whisper as much and the only cameo he's done in a while was the 15& somebody, right?

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  188. I don't think they really mean they're untalented, I think they meant that their talents don't really stand out. Their songs are always catchy but never showcase their vocal or dance talent, nor are they amazing in variety.

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  189. No he doesn't schedule their activities, but usually when his groups make Korean comebacks he puts himself in charge of the production and the composition of at least the title track if not the whole album.

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  190. Kpop_Idols_Are_NOT_PerfectSeptember 1, 2013 at 3:40 PM

    Hyuna looks hot even as a cartoon!

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  191. well yeah
    he doesn't whisper anymore, but in Miss A's i dont need a man, his face was printed on the paper bills lol

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  192. I actually love those JYP whispers. The cameos are funny too. It makes me feel like the company is really close knit.

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