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Saturday, August 10, 2013

Fans found taking out private loans and extra jobs to pay for star gifts


Article: 'Part time jobs to pay for celeb gifts'... gifting foreign cars to stars, fans even taking private loans

Source: Kuki News via Nate

(Skipping paragraphs of stuff mentioned in previous articles about the same topic)

With the competition between fans heating up, there have also been instances of celebrities and agencies actually seeking such gifts up front. A popular idol group member of a three member group is one such example. 'A' released a gift list to the fans asking for electronic products, computers, home theater equipment, and even specific gifts for their parents. Fans responded by gifting A's parents with expensive health products along with the note, 'Thank you for giving birth to A.'

Solo singer 'B' who recently made a comeback gave his/her fans a list of 'birthday gifts' that led to his fans equipping his studio with expensive audio equipment. B even made sure to write the  list to specific fanclubs so that the gifts didn't overlap. The same tactic was used to furnish his home.

Girl groups and other female celebrities will even show off the luxury gifts they receive like heels, handbags, and rings on their SNS accounts.

To provide these stars with such lavish gifts, fans have resorted to taking out private loans and extra part time jobs. Lee Hyun Joo (24) also took out a private loan but had to eventually ask her parents for help once she couldn't meet the payments. "I was desperate to not lose to a competing fancafe."

Seoul University's Psychology professor Kwak Geum Joo had to comment, "Fans feel a type of pleasure from giving gifts to celebrities. They turn their affections into a physical product, which promotes competition between each other. It's not a healthy fandom culture at all."

Cube Entertainment's Ahn Hyo Jin added, "It puts us in an uncomfortable situation when fans give excessive gifts. The company will return gifts that we feel is too much and try to lead them to giving to charities instead."

When we met with another hardcore fan Kang Min Kyung (27), she gave a deep sigh. She first started 'supporting' her star with simple gifts but the culture turned out to be nothing at all like what she expected.

When her favorite singer 'K' was making his comeback, his fanclub started collecting money to deliver a healthy lunch box set for his comeback stage. Because of her older age, the fancafe admin expected her to make a $100+ donation. An additional $80 was demanded for the 100 or so other lunch boxes prepared for the broadcast staff.

"Other cafes will just order a lunch car, which costs upwards of several hundreds. When a singer makes an acting debut and starts script reading practices, we all have to order lunch boxes for both the cast and the staff."

With celebrities showing off what they receive on SNS, the competition between fanclubs to provide the best grows only more severe.

"There are a lot of celebrities who receive money from fans directly to their bank accounts. Whenever a star leaves a comment somewhere like, 'The amp in my studio is broken so I can't work,' there are already dozens of fans messaging him for his bank account so that they can send money over."

Some stars have even taken to indirectly asking fans for gifts for their parents and their pets. All it takes is a message saying, "I need to buy my parents a gift for Parents' Day..." and he'll receive gift certificiates by the dozens.

"Giving their parents gifts is not even the worst of the issue. Some fans even volunteer to work as a chaffeur for their parents. I once saw a fan go to the star's parents' house to clean it for them."

One fanclub admin had to resort to using her credit card to pay for a luxury gift and a birthday party. Unable to make her payments, she eventually took out another private loan and is now working two jobs to pay them all off.

Kang's fan friend took out a $3,000 loan for her star's birthday but is now paying double that in interest. Fortunately, she was able to help alleviate the burden by selling some of the photos and videos she took of her oppa.

yo this is so long ... kudos if you're reading it.

There have also been several instances of fans cheating each other out of their money, such as in 2010 when T-ara's fanclub collected nearly $10,000 only to have the admin run away with it.

A DC Inside rep had to say, "These fraud cases happen a lot more than you'd think but until an actual crime is reported, the site has no way to help."

There aren't only celebrities who request fan gifts, as several many have rejected them just as often as well. Actress Shin So Yool returned all of the gifts her fans delivered on her birthday, saying, "Thank you so much but I hope you'll give to the needy instead." Touched, fans became even more hardcore fans of her.

SHINee's Taemin also returned all of the presents delivered to his agency. A rep of his company said, "Taemin is so grateful for the love of his fans. He feels satisfied with their love and asked that they spend the gifts where it's important. Everyone was touched by that."

Lee Seung Gi's fanbase supports in an entirely different way. For his birthdays and anniversaries, they'll group up and volunteer at charities, bringing with them armfuls of necessary equipment.

G-Dragon's fans will use their donations collected to donate to the needy under his name. Yang Yoseob's fans are also known for their consistent donations. Charities that EXO and other SM Entertainment stars are known for volunteering at have been attracting fans even internationally.

Other fanclubs will donate rice wreaths at drama production conferences.

Super Junior's Siwon recently stressed the importance of giving to charities at his fan meeting and is known for his many volunteer activities through his church.

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1. [+191, -10] Fans seem stupid for giving stars all that stuff, but the stars seem just as stupid for accepting all of it too.

2. [+167, -6] This is why everyone is obsessed with becoming a celebrity. All you have to do is get popular and you can get all these things for free.. Then when they get forgotten, they come out on talk shows and cry about it. What a cycle.

3. [+155, -5] I'm a stupid fangirl myself but I really don't understand fans who will spend that kind of money for gifts. If they have the extra money for it, then it's not my business, but I know several students around me who will spend several hundreds without a blink. I have nothing to say about that.

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387 comments:

  1. I think buying CDs is enough, do this when you're capable, really. Don't make yourself poor for someone who is RICH! XD

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  2. "yo this is so long ... kudos if you're reading it."


    lol NB, sometimes you're really cute

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  3. Little Freak 'ㅂ'*August 10, 2013 at 2:55 AM

    SHINee's Taemin also returned all of the presents delivered to his agency. A rep of his company said, "Taemin is so grateful for the love of his fans. He feels satisfied with their love and asked that they spend the gifts where it's important. Everyone was touched by that."

    How proud I am now ^~^

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  4. i gave up reading halfway i'm sorry lol

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  5. i never send a gift to my favorite idol

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  6. "A popular idol group member of a three member group is one such example."


    Disgusting. I'd like to know who this is.

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  7. Can't believe I read it all, lol.

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  8. Little Freak 'ㅂ'*August 10, 2013 at 2:56 AM

    me too XD

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  9. Personally the term "supports" for presents always seemed funny to me, as if your bias is in a critical war zone or something.

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  10. I need names for A and B.
    I don't even have the world to adequately describe how manipulative and low those two leeches are.

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  11. Three member group...I can't think of any :(

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  12. You better give alll that gifts to your own parents :(

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  13. The fact that A is a three member group narrows it down so much since there's very few three member groups but I can't fuckin think of one!!

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  14. JYJ definitely qualifies as a popular idol group. There's also Busker Busker, but they're not really idols.

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  15. *group hug* we made it through lol

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  16. i can only think of one popular 3 member group and i wouldn't even be suprised hmmmmmmmm

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  17. I will never understand buying gifts for idols. Buying a CD, supporting one of their charities is something I can do but buying expensive as creams that they may or may not use is entirely different.

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  18. ikr I don't rmb any idol groups asking for a gift list other than a member from u-kiss but they dont meet the requirements

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  19. I want to donate my sperm to Q-ri. Together, we make a perfect specimen.

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  20. Ppl just have messed up and different idea of who a fan is. It is just sad, and i thought i was crazy. i tried to order posters and the shipping cost was more than the cost of the posters. i just close down the page and went to play sims. Not compulsory

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  21. Private loans are no joke.. the interest on those loans are ridiculously high, and it's sad to see that fans are resorting to that just to pay for gifts to give to idols that have a short life-span in the industry.

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  22. when the star wear either outfits or accessories from the fans, the fans usually brag about it and give more branded items. year by year its becoming more pricey brand. and its become competition even between fancafe member let along between different fancafe of same star.

    and i dont like the idea of buying star for the star. literally buying the star. its not something they can use or what . -.-

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  23. jyj ? orange caramel ? tts ? lunafly ? gavi nj ?

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  24. Although some fans are absolutely stupid, whoever A and B are even worse. Such selfish scums having the audacity take advantage of their fans.

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  25. private loans. im gasping for air to breathe between my study loans. and they use loans for someone who doesn't even know their name

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  26. With others saying JYJ, I think Jaejooong because his fans were always grateful to his parents for bringing him to the world but I'll be so disappointed in him if it's true.

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  27. yo this is so long ... kudos if you're reading it.

    read it all...do I get a treat? ;)

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  28. supporting charities ~ BEAST <3

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  29. so i wasn't the only one

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  30. didn't exo fans get kai like 3 macbooks for his birthday? lol

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  31. I heard SM won't be taking any more fan gifts..

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  32. but i think some i-fans donate via k-fansite for their idol

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  33. and many girl group got lot of really expensive bags,, shoes,, jewelry,, cosmetics .
    envy with them,, lol

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  34. no wonder SM supposedly banned their artist from posting about things like food support on their SNS accounts... even though they do it out of gratefulness etc... they may inevitably cause problems :/

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  35. At first thought it was Lunafly. But they are not that popular yet, right?

    It didnt say male group but i kept thinking it is.

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  36. I need my money to pay for college. I show enough support buying cds and dvds and other goods (when I find them worth the money). I am stingy with my money, like I won't even buy my mom a purse if I know she would never use it and only asked for it because it was nice looking.

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  37. I wouldn't consider "TTS" as a group. They are a extension/subunit of GG :)

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  38. When did siwon hold his own fan meeting though... Anw both siwon and donghae are really religious.. They retweet their pastor's post almost everyday with 'Amen'

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  39. I feel sad for these people. They're ruining their life for someone who doesnt even care about them.

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  40. Are you serious O_O

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  41. No kidding, I'm drowning in student loan debt right now and it's unfortunate that funding for UCs have been cut short just to enlarge the paychecks of some members in the UC Board of Regents.

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  42. ....and here I am, left with under 100 in my account after paying for 5 textbooks and classes....... ㅠ.ㅠ
    #lifeofacollegekid

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  43. Wouldn't the females be out since the rest of the B story was refrencing a male?

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  44. I'd like one of those macbooks because my macbook died on me when I was about to turn in my senior thesis. Worst day of my life.

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  45. At this point, fans doing stuff like that may as well just be called cultists.


    Also...


    "There have also been several instances of fans cheating each other out of their money, such as in 2010 when T-ara's fanclub collected nearly $10,000 only to have the admin run away with it. "


    I remember hearing about this before. It's gonna give people another reason to slam down on the group, if not already.

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  46. For B, i dont even want to think it's Kim Hyun Joong.
    Im pretty sure he prefers his fans to spend money on his music rather than gifts. I remember him talking about tjis recently on weekly ent.

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  47. In the first line it says his/her fans so I included both male and female just to be sure.

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  48. true story, can't wait to see how much i need pay back in student loans when i eventually finish. forever bankrupt

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  49. hmmm Lunafly barely counts as an idol group somehow... so it probably isn't them?

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  50. Why pull JYJ in? What for?

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  51. I personally think buying their albums and going to their concerts are already enough. They make music and perform for a living. The best fans can do is support their musical achievements, why go out of your way and buy unnecessary stuff just to get more attention from oppa?

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  52. gurl, it's all the time (; hahahah

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  53. Oh no :( what happened after?? :S

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  54. I need names. Who are A and B? Because I'm never stanning those two ever.

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  55. Oh my God, thanks for reminding me lol! When they said recently I didn't think they might be that recently but it could be him!

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  56. To put it bluntly, obsession and if needed to be put harshly, it's like something a cultist would do.

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  57. Tbh. If it's really JYJ, why though? Seriously they got thousands of dollars. -.- but they came to my mind also. The word popular triggers me. -.-

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  58. I heard they gave all but one to staff members. But idk if this was just a rumor.

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  59. What I think is that there are some idols who actually do not want to receive such expensive gifts but they are afraid to reject, scared that they might hurt their fans, so they just remain silent.
    Although I don't recall Siwon ever said such thing in a fan meeting, I do know he indeed does a lot of charities. He even sponsored two kids in Thailand and went there to visit them with his mom and his aunt last year. He also extended his visit to Indonesia for a day after SS5 to visit an orphanage there.

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  60. i always send my bias group gifts mostly because i run their fan club and theyre a rookie group an i want them to feel loved and motivated. i buy cheaper stuff but if they were to send it back i would be super sad because i put all that money and thought into the gift T_T

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  61. And a massage chair, several ipods/ipads, Dolce & Gabbana clothes, Luis Vuitton, Armani, Chanel, and other expensive brands’ products, a bike, Moet Champagne, etc. Someone even got Torres to sign a shirt and a football for him

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  62. Ended up getting an incomplete for my thesis class, and I only had to petition to change the grade. Wasn't too bad, but starting over from scratch on a 30+ page thesis was terrible...

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  63. Stop linking JYJ to the 3 members group!!!!

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  64. "Fortunately, she was able to help alleviate the burden by selling some of the photos and videos she took of her oppa."

    the last word, I don't believe its from the article's words..NB is cute ^^

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  65. They send it back because it was bought with blood money that stuff is literally cursed

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  66. Buying 100 albums to meet and touch oppa isn't cheap. I think that is the biggest scam the companies have running. Buying these gifts also makes fangirls feel closer to oppa. "Only I love oppa so much! Only I would sacrifice so much!"

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  67. how about giving hands on specific poor country in the world under the name of your fav..

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  68. Omg the celebs that ask for gifts are idiots -.-
    How do they expect their fans to buy everything for them...

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  69. In Vietnam too SJ participated in some child trafficking events and visited

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  70. That's why I ended up working to much overtime this summer, because I know all the damn textbooks are gonna be a bitch to pay for. Even if I get some of them second-hand. T.T


    Some teachers are so mean & require you to buy the latest edition of some textbook & it costs more because there's a CD that's pretty much useless inside. >.<

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  71. Uh? Where do you see me pulling JYJ in?

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  72. i........can't..................exotics sometimes, is half the fandom at least SANE????? my god. this is tragic.

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  73. Fans can get pretty ridiculous but glad at least most of these celebs think so too and instead encourage them to give to charities :D I'll stick to just buying their albums and go to events, that is if I ever get to see them :.(

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  74. I have but it was self made and didn't cost me that much >_<

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  75. Honestly I don't care what people do with their money as long as it makes them happy I guess but they shouldn't have their parents/others bail them out when they get in trouble with debt.

    The only idol I would consider buying something for is Jessica but since she already has lots of things I feel a card or something would be appropriate.

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  76. I don't think it's him. He's rejected fan gifts and kept fan letters before so I don't think he'd change now.

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  77. I checked the original article and I dont thinked A belongs to JYJ
    This paragraph is the paragraph before the mentioned of 3 member group.

    Original Text:
    가수 JYJ 팬들은 앨범 출시 등 특별한 이벤트가 있을 때마다 버스나 지하철에 응원 광고를 게시했다. JYJ 팬클럽 사이트엔 지금까지 수차례 1억5000여만원 상당의 광고 집행 내역을 밝히고 있다.

    Google Translate:
    JYJ Fans singer released an album whenever there is a special event, such as a bus or subway ads posted cheer. JYJ fan club site several times until now 100,005,000 yen million yuan worth of advertising history says.


    Lol what for will they put JYJ as anonymous when they already talked about JYJ in the previous paragraph

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  78. That's why i am more give something to our idol such as cute thing or anything that related to my country.. not so expensive.. but just to make sure they remember they have been in my country..


    craft souvenir is a good thing.. better than something like so expensive and they can get in their country.

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  79. This is why fans in Korea are waaaaay different from international fans. And their almost literal worship of idols is why k-fans look down on i-fans. To them, we're not dedicated enough.


    Imo, buying an album from iTunes is enough & maybe pitching in in a fanclub is raising money for a charity in their name isn't such a big deal either.


    But there is no way in fucking hell I would ever take out a personal loan from my bank just to buy them shit they can already buy themselves. I have enough problems trying to pay for what FAFSA doesn't cover in my college tuition, plus rent & utilities, & everyday expenses......


    -.-

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  80. But wtf tho!!! These stars make enough money on their own to by twice or even triple what these fans are gifting them with. These fans should know better! It's nice that they want to give and are doing it from their hearts, but let's use a little bit of common sense here.

    If these fans went through the same motions and put as much efforts into giving to those who are truly in need of these things as they are doing for these celebs, then the world would be doing a little bit better than it is right now. Talk about twisted priorities.

    But wtf man, I'm only speaking for myself, I guess since these fans are earning their own money, they can do whatever they want with it. No need for me to get all up in arms about it. Smdh!

    What makes everything much more sickening though is how many of these celebs are willingly accepting these gifts and even going as far as making lists out for what they want. I think that seeing one of my biases do the latter would be enough for me to lose respect and interest in him.

    I commend celebs who actually to refuse to accept such gifts like IU, Taemin, and so forth. It's the respectable thing to do, after all, your fans extreme support should be more than enough.

    When it's all said and done, I'm glad that I read this entire article and I will definitely take this info and run with it. The ONLY time I'll be spending money on my favorite idol will only be when they've produced quality work that I find worth purchasing by buying their physical album. I think that is more than sufficient.

    "It's not a healthy fandom culture at all." - and that's really all that needs to be said!

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  81. support the music including attends concerts that the artists held in several countries maybe lol. I like your sentence "Don't make yourself poor for someone who is RICH"

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  82. Not really scam..its fans satisfaction ..


    haven't you heard akb48 fans?.. buying 300-3,000K copies ..

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  83. Did you read this, Diadem? You and your fu*king water project

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  84. Yeah but only to groups that are not so known >_< But I never spend that much money since I need stuff too X)

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  85. Thank you for pointing that out.

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  86. Taking this English course over the summer and the books alone added up to $170. Insane.

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  87. Actually, I really think it's him. His comebacks haven't really been successful and he could use the money so...
    But I can't be sure.

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  88. Well who makes their own music. Because the person must know their stuff to know exactly which equitment they want their fans to, buy.

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  89. "To them, we're not dedicated enough." because we stan much groups and that make us not loyal enough lol I heard in SK we have to support one artist so we can focus on her/him/them

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  90. "And their almost literal worship of idols"


    They are called idols for a reason XD

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  91. Literal worship of idols is correct. It's creepy when it comes down to it. The following is very cultish, righteous, deluded and uncomfortable to think about. Literal violence and giving offerings.

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  92. I hate it when you spend 200+ on a textbook with a CD and some code for online work because the professor stressed the fact that it's required, as though not a day will go by when you won't need it.....and then you end up never looking at it and passing the class just fine.

    and the buybacks are always less than 50% of the original price

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  93. they isn't that popular in korea

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  94. I don't think it's him. He even told his fans not to vote (for music shows) after finding out it would cost money.

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  95. Does your school allow you to rent books? It's cheaper than buying used books and a LOT cheaper than buying new ones. There are several websites that allow you to rent them, so see if you can try finding your required textbooks online. Amazon is a good resource too.

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  96. http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2013/01/positive-dump-94-line-kim-hyun-joong.html?m=1

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  97. This kind of idols don't have a heart at all. Isn't it enough that fans pay a lot to buy their albums and concert tickets and more stupid stuff? Isn't it enough idols? They're your fans not your pets

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  98. Soshi never talk about what the fans do for them even if it's a donation of sorts. Which is kinda sad bcz Sowon's are freaking amazing.

    Sowon's donated/setup nine wells in Cambodia for the fifth anniversary. And TheStephi (Fany's fansite) planted trees as this years birthday project ._.
    They're calling it the "Pink Forest" lol

    Other than that, loads of blood donations since SNSD participated in Love Request show with Suju.
    Sooyoung's dad suffers from an eye disease called "Retinitis Pigmentosa". So SNSD are kinda like the ambassadors for any blindness related movement and a lot of donations for their research have been made by sowons.



    And then donations of food are made by almost every fandom.

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  99. Highly doubt that it would be him:


    "Known to be a generous artist, Kim Hyun-joong has continually donated to charities and healthcare institutions to share his achievements with those in need.

    In 2011, Kim donated $50,000 USD to the "Korean Red Cross Association" before his Japanese tour in November, then adding $50,000 USD to an association that heats homes later on, and another $50,000 USD for the third time to feed the children in Fukushima following the aftermath of the earthquake, totaling up to $150,000 USD secret donation.[124]

    In 2012, Kim donated 50 million KRW (about 46000 USD) on December 3 to The Red Cross once again.[125] He also donated 20 million KRW (about 17300 USD) to be used for the "Kim Hyun Joong Scholarship"[126] and another 30 million KRW (about 25950 USD) to the "Summer Campaign for Senior Citizens Living Alone", totaling up to 50 million KRW (about 43250 USD), as he was touched when his fans donated 10 million KRW ( about 8,860 USD) to the said campaign.[127][128][129] At the same time, he was also part of the "Save The Earth reform class" environmental campaign by the Hang Ten (brand) on June 13.[130]

    In 2013, Kim donated 100 million KRW (about 86500 USD) to "One Foundation" for the victims of the earthquake in Ya'an, China."

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  100. KHJ is known to donate huge amounts anonymously (srsly anonymous tho ppl find out abt it later) to charity so i don't think it's him.

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  101. "Giving their parents gifts is not even the worst of the issue. Some fans even volunteer to work as a chaffeur for their parents. I once saw a fan go to the star's parents' house to clean it for them."

    i bet they don't do that with their own parents

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  102. I always hated that they're called 'idols' >.< I try to refer to them as 'celebrities' as much as possible, but the way Korea's entertainment industry is makes it hard because the lines between actors, actresses, idols, & singers are quite clearly drawn.


    —.—

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  103. I feel this way too kinda...I see so many Ifans that use 10+ fandom names when there is no way you can care for those groups equally.

    I only consider myself a Gorjess Spazzer (I love SNSD but I really can't relate to the other members enough to support OT9) and Hello Cupid (Hello Venus) any other group/artist I like is just "a group I like".

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  104. "I have enough problems trying to pay for what FAFSA doesn't cover in my college tuition, plus rent & utilities, & everyday expenses"

    You better preach that!! Times are hard and people are spending massive bucks for bullshit? Hell, I'd almost have to sell an organ to try to pay for just half of my tuition. Smh. It's definitely an infuriating reality that's come to light after reading this article.

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  105. I don't understand how fans will help out their star's parents yet ask their parents to help them pay off the debt they got themselves into.

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  106. Yeah, that's pretty much how it is. Like, a member of a fanclub might casually buy a digital single online from another idol group if they like it but 99% of their free time & resources go into supporting the group whose fanclub they are a member of.


    Now that k-pop fan culture is exposed, it's pretty clear why it is that way.

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  107. I'm glad I made it out just before this happened, phew. UCs are ridiculous now.

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  108. But education is best investment ..so no worries at least you have it. better use it .

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  109. Then who is A in JYJ ???

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  110. That's all really nice but I'm not KHJ's fangirl nor do I know him personally so I'll keep my suspicion that it might be him. There are things about idols we'll never know so a list of what he's donated is not conclusive evidence.
    I don't care who it is. Whoever it is, is cheap as fck..

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  111. Tiffany's fans planted forest for her bday in korea, in thailand they did charity and in singapore they donated blood. Things like that make me feel like there is hope

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  112. It reminds me of when Super Junior missed the Golden Disk Award by a small difference, and Chinese ELFS made them a copy cat GDA trophy out of 100 million won’s worth of PURE GOLD.

    The boys felt really touched but that it would have been inappropriate to keep it so they used it to help the poor in China.

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  113. From what I know, Siwon's fansites do not really give him that many expensive gifts. Probably just some branded clothes or bags but I know they aren't to THAT expensive extent. Siwon likes to read letters and some small gifts (like fridge magnets lol) or something that is memorable like that shirt that his fan made for him and the next day, he posted a picture of him wearing it on twitter <3 . So it's what they've been doing for his birthdays these past years, collecting the letters and gifts from fans all over the world and give it to him.

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  114. Some of those nutjobs forget the entire purpose of us stanning them in the first place, and that's for the music. I support who ever fits my taste and captivates me musically, I don't know of it being any other way in terms of stanning groups. I think that buying their albums is more than "dedicated enough".

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  115. I alrdy spen so much time on them. I really think buying albums n going to thei solo concerts r more than enough. N charity work may be.

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  116. You are so lucky.. I'm glad I'm out too, but I feel terrible for all the other students that have to pay the increase in tuition.

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  117. I feel like some of the requests are from the middle to lower tier celebs who make less money. The bigs one pretty much reject most of them now.

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  118. can't deny the fact that elf is super amazing in helping and support sj. but also can't deny the fact a lot elfs out there are too rude to other fandoms in order to support sj

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  119. One of the reason why I really like NB. To those people who harassed NB on her e-mails resulting her to write an article, do the world a favor and go kill yourself. This blog is so peaceful back in the days. Yeah, good old days. Idiots really love to ruin everything in their path. smh

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  120. YUP.


    I'm starting my sophomore year of college & it's really hard not to be stressed out, tbh. I'm lucky that the prices for off-campus housing in my area isn't ridiculously expensive, but that played a huge part in determining which college I chose to go to. :|

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  121. WHAT REALLY!?


    How the hell did they do that? D:

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  122. the fudge? Japanese albums are expensive. No wonder they sell millions so easily.

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  123. I won't say it's useless but you do realize how scammy college is when you're in the job market and find most employers couldn't care less about your degree. Recruiters I've talked say they only really care about practical experience, connections, and how well you can carry a conversation.

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  124. I wonder what they have given and they did for their parents if they can give it all to their favorite idols

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  125. No matter what ppl think of sones they are amazing when it comes to charity donations

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  126. Is nothing moderate ?

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  127. just when i thought sasaeng fans is the craziest..

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  128. not directing at you but those who replies you and pulling JYJ in. Sorry for the misunderstanding

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  129. With that hike it doesn't even look like a public education price range anymore. Personally I don't even think it was worth it. Going to a high ranked Cal State would have cost half the price and had way better practical networking for jobs. Meh.

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  130. JYJ qualifies but none of them have ever asked fans for that.

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  131. No, but I think it shows his character. Someone who donates 50 million to a charity because fans donated 10 million to it, doesn't seem like someone who would take advantage of his fans now would it?
    I don't know but my bet is more on Ivy, wasn't she that complained that her show was cancelled due to the airplane crash? Also on an interview in Showbiz Korea she mentioned an elderly fan that used to give her gifts and even cash but she had stopped seeing him, and was hoping he would go back to her, I thought that was weird as fuck... o.O

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  132. I had a big bonfire with books I overspent on and couldn't even sell back for 50% of the price. It was a waste of money....... but it felt so fucking good. Textbooks are the biggest scam ever. Don't ever buy the latest edition, there's usually like new graphs or pictures.

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  133. Yea SM fans are incredibly incorrigible.

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  134. They shouldnt leave JYJ fans when they r talking abt charities...

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  135. http://yonasu.com/wp-content/uploads/4ffe54ab.jpg

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  136. No USB backup? No print backups?

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  137. This is what Siwon posted on Twitter literally a few minutes ago, I think meaningful gifts and support like this is the cutest ^^

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  138. How are you any better then them if you're telling them to go kill themselves? That's going overboard.

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  139. Well I don't think anyone really expected them to go so hard on rookie gifts. That's why I think SM won't be taking anymore fangifts. I'm glad SM staff is getting a little more mean about it now. If they see that the gifts are sometimes thrown away, they won't waste their money.

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  140. I went to a local school so that I could stay at home with my parents just to eliminate my room & board. The thing about it is, my tuition is still high cause it's a private college ;_;

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  141. lmao oh please Jaejoong has a 3 mill apartment and Junsu has a 13 mill hotel what are fans gonna give them? two hotels?

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  142. yes but well we have no choice ..i experience that . specially it has cheap quality unlike in actual store.. but we have no choice ..the content is the most important + Signature LOL...

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  143. It seems more Chinese fans than Korean fans though. That's where the big money is flowing from.

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  144. But SJ already said that they are keeping the disk in SM and will be using it for good deeds in future eg donating it to charity

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  145. Nope, everything had been on my laptop.

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  146. Kim Hyun Joong likes to do free stuff for his fans even when it costs him money, I doubt it's him.

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  147. I wish more idols would encourage their fans to support charities. I know Blackjacks constantly donate to Holt Orphanage in 2NE1's name.

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  148. It's just an expression, an expression, miss. Why can't people tell the difference? Oh wait, replies are coming to me. /gtg

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  149. LOL i think the reason they are so hyper every time they have a concert is because we supply sugar to them....through cakes like that lol

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  150. omg my eyes~ he should have just smiled, he looks perverted no offense

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  151. What's he going to do with it, use it as bricks to build a house?

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  152. I was getting a bit sad by what I was reading, but laughed out loud at NB's comment in the middle. Thanks for making an effort to translate such a long article, NB!

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  153. O private universities, and the bill keeps getting higher every year. I would've had school paid for if it didn't increase every year.

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  154. Yep, I was thinking the same, too. It would be hard to believe DB5K would resort to something like that (although not necessarily far fetched), but I definitely see a lot of nugu's making similar motions. It's really sad. They're really no different than prostitutes in a way. Smh.

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  155. Uh... JJ is adopted...

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  156. I'll go with you ; D

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  157. I agree...I did a short stint in college and realized it wasn't really for me right now. While a degree is a very good thing to have..I think you can still meet success without it.

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  158. I avoid looking at my summary just because. And ultimately, the interest rates are the true kicker in the ass :/ *sigh*

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  159. @idontknoe
    @....
    its called support ..for voting ..

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  160. Just spend within your means...I never give more than $50 and that's only once a year for my favourite group's anniversary or for concert fanprojects. Those celebrities asking for gifts are really disgusting, considering they can well afford those things themselves (if you can afford a studio you can damn well buy your own equipment!)

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  161. That was at the beginning when they first got it. They already mentioned that they've already given it to various charities.

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  162. Poor you. I emailed myself every hour or so.

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  163. I think sponsoring needy kids is a really meaningful act~ providing them with proper education goes a longer way than just stuffing them with money. Hangeng sponsors 6 or 7 children too~~

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  164. This actually makes me want to become a celebrity just to tell them not to do this stuff. Is that weird? If I got as many macbooks as Kai got for his birthday I would go in SNS and try to find some college students that need one for classes.

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  165. Why is ppl accusing JyJ? They r rich enuf themselves to buy what they want...

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  166. and you can't even refinance that bitch.

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  167. Wth kind of expression is go kill yourself?? And who uses it?

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  168. lol did she really say that?
    Well Ivy was my second choice after KHJ bcz I remember reading smth fishy about her as well but didn't JYP help her?What would she need the money to equip a studio for?

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  169. And all I could give to my idol was a cute hand-made 똥 hat XD! and he liked it :3! sorry but I work hard to have money in my pocket to give it away that easily \o/ and i have more important things to spent on. I hope this fan gift culture stop because it's nonsense e.é, it's okay if you want to give small gift but some fans take this to a whole different level that just scares me ._.'

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  170. Now I feel that my university is an angel for letting us rent textbooks T^T Once I tried to google my books price and was left like this O.O

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  171. for me, my gifts to my favourite idols are by attending their concerts and buying their cds.. lol

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  172. Exactly. Everything is so extreme.

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  173. popular idol group with 3 members.. I can only think of jyj but idk.. aren't they super rich

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  174. Omg? These celebrities should learn from Kim Hyun joong and Taeyang

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  175. Me, myself and I. Other people who uses internet. It's like a MEME you know. What the, why am I explaining this to you? You're too old for this. I really can't stand the mind of a kid. Full of questions. Ask Wolverine about this then. -_-

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  176. What are you getting ironic about?
    I simply said that if it is JYJ, I think it would be Jaejoong.
    I don't care about their fortune and whatnot.

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  177. either you are a troll or somekind not getting the clue. its just a saying. blackstar is saying like stay away from us but in harsh way thats all

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  178. fans don't enjoy others speculating horrible things about their group if you haven't already noticed.
    if you are offended by my irony i apologise but know that you have also offended JYJ fans.

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  179. From what I heard Girls' Generation fansites is the worst one? Using all their money to buy gifts for Girls' Generation, and showing off in all Girls' Generation sites?

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  180. No. What I have noticed is that JYJ fans are too defensive even if someone doesn't directly offend their oppars. To hell with your apology. For fuck's sake.

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  181. yeah now my lecturers writing up new books and the way they make it a must buy for their student by putting some easy tore pages with exercise to use as quiz in class. and those book need at least $50 per unit and let alone we have 4 subjects this sem. such dirty tactics

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  182. For people who think that 3 member group is JYJ. JYJ members already have houses, and everything they needed equipped. They have CJES studio to work for their songs. JJ is adopted ( in case think that it might be JJ).


    JYJ fanclubs don't compete against each other, each individual members' fanclubs works together most of the time because they fear that their gifts might overlaps. Sometimes they even help each other out if a certain projects needs funding. JYJ fansites donation project can goes up to 10k a website (and they have a lot of fansites!), so imagined all of it coming together. ( This is a fandom full of rich, stable income fans).


    Both JYJ and fans have been in news donating to charity often.

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  183. I'm ELF and I kinda agree with you. Some ELF can do unnecessary stuffs like bashing other groups just because of SJ. I love SJ so much but I still have my sane sense and logic. ELF's love for SJ can be a good thing and bad thing.

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  184. the thing is it doesnt makes sense if its JJ...he cares abt his fans too much...and logically he's damn rich...so he doesnt need to ask for anything from his fans...and he doesnt really asked abt anything from his fans rather than that he posted alot about inspirational quotes on twitter

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  185. I wouldn't know, I don't follow him anymore but I never outright stated that it's him. Peace out :)

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  186. Yeah something along those lines, I didn't know who she was but then I saw the article about her twitter comments >.<
    The interview was either on Showbiz Korea or Pops in Seoul, those are the only two kpop shows they air on t.v. with English subs lol so it was one of those two. Hmmmm other than that I don't know much about her music/career and whether she needs the money or not xD I just thought her comments were really shady.

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  187. To be fair, NB should have included the entire paragraph about JYJ fans and their forms of support. Leaving that paragraph out immediately makes people suspect that the 3 member group mentioned in the article is JYJ and one of its members.

    None of the JYJ members have ever asked for anything of their fans. At most, all they've ever given to fans or posted to their fansites (group and solo) are autographs, pictures, and short messages of gratitude for fans who have supported their work. The rest of the time, they communicate via official SNS accounts. So I can assure people here, it is not JYJ or any of the members.

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  188. Thanks. Maybe that user is one of the people who harassed NB because (s)he reacts as if (s)he was been pointed out.

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  189. I don't think is them either. Some of their fans might be crazy but I don't think JYJ would be the type to demand such gifts from their fans more so because of their pride. Also, they are really wealthy and established they don't really need to stoop that low.

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  190. JYJ fans, Please stop harrasing NB

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  191. JYJ fans, Please stop harrasing NB.

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