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Monday, June 17, 2013

Shinhwa reveals Eric gave them allowance from the money he made with individual CFs


Article: Shinhwa "Eric gave us allowance money with the money he made from filming CFs alone"

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1. [+263, -11] Eric really used to be at the top before... I hope he returns to that position soon.

2. [+249, -11] Eric is truly one of the driving factors behind Shinhwa's longevity and success. Proves just how important the leader's position is.

3. [+214, -13] As a man, I don't understand why Eric isn't more popular. His acting's great and he was decent in Phoenix. Eric and TOP both have the voice and the face to make great actors and they have the potential and room for improvement in terms of acting so it sucks that they aren't getting the opportunities. They're a hundred times better than these nugu idols acting right now.

4. [+98, -4] Jun Jin shared his CF income too ㅎㅎ The members are just filled with loyalty for one another. I hope we get to see a 50th anniversary dinner show from them someday.

5. [+68, -7] Eric is just all man.

6. [+66, -2] I'm proud that there's a group that has been around for as long as Shinhwa has in Korea... I hope they exist even when they're grandpas.

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223 comments:

  1. All that's missing are little halos above their heads to call them St-Shinhwa.

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  2. Eric is an awesome actor. I loved him in Que Sera Sera. He just needs to pick better projects.

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  3. Shinhwa's bromance makes my stomach all fuzzy. ♥

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  4. No group will ever be like Shinhwa. They really deserve their "Legend" title.

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  5. [+263, -11] Eric really used to be at the top before... I hope he returns to that position soon.


    ^ agree with this. i really can't understand why eric not doing any drama/movie anymore.

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  6. 4. [+98, -4] Jun Jin shared his CF income too ㅎㅎ The members are just
    filled with loyalty for one another. I hope we get to see a 50th
    anniversary dinner show from them someday.

    It's really great to see the loyalty between all the members. Truly a legend.

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  7. Eric and TOP both have the voice and the face to make great actors


    lmao I knew it. The only reason koreans think Top is a "good" actor is because he's handsome and has a deep voice. Boy is stiff as a board yet he always escaped criticism for some weird reason. Now I understand those (shallow) reasons..

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  8. This is how real leader should behave

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  9. How nice of Eric

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  10. The funny thing is, Korea didn't a crap about Shinhwa back in the day. If they did, they would have been National idols. But because these netizens hate the current generation so much, they praise Shinhwa to highheavens.

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  11. i thought i was the only one that though top's acting sucked...

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  12. Really ? I don't know about Shinhwa much but I thought they were pretty popular before

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  13. I'm trying to type a nice comment about Eric, but I don't even know how to start, so much to say about this man.

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  14. shinhwa is so perfect, their bond is real...reason why they've lasted so long

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  15. Shinhwa is the very first korean group I got to know and love. And Eric was my first bias. Ah, the memories ~

    Does anyone here remember 'Perfect man'? 'How do I say'? I miss the good old music ~

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  16. dude anyone with eyes could see that.

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  17. he was offered some but they interfered with Shinhwa Broadcast and the album, like the show with SBS. He and Minwoo are the Co-CEO's of Shinhwa company and they also produce, write,compose most of shinhwas album

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  18. I actually thought his acting in Alumini was really good better than his acting in Iris

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  19. They weren't on H.O.T, g.o.d or Sechskies level of popularity, but defienetly more than today's average boygroup.

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  20. did you travel back in time or something



    because Alumini isn't even out in theaters yet.

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  21. agree. i think Top is average to me. also i don't see TOP can go further in acting because i think his facial face and voice will limit him to do variety role.

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  22. what are you talking about they got popular after TOP. they were in the Usha Usha days(1st album) but after that they were really popular. They did not just start being called Variety Kings they have been called that for years and Eric used to be really popular with everyone

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  23. May i ask? Was shinhwa popular back then?*I mean when they were just debut* Maybe like big bang, snsd, super junior, or 2ne1 nowdays

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  24. the guys said before that when they're promoting as a group they won't have individual activities, and also they have Shinhwa Broadcast... plus Eric is in charge of SHINHWA promotions along with Minwoo

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  25. watch the war movie he did i did not love his other stuff i though he was ok but that movie he was amaizing

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  26. The same statement can be made towards many talent less idols as well

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  27. Actually back then, HOT was the most popular group...

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  28. they got popular with top they were not the #1 HOT and Sechskies were competing for that but they were popular

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  29. lol he'll probably go far in his career because if kim tae hee can become an a-list actress, then anyone attractive can tbh

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  30. they're werent as many idol groups then as there are now...other groups like h.o.t, g.o.d, sechskies were more popular but shinhwa still had their own fans and popularity

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  31. I did see it. hence my comment about him being stiff as a board.

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  32. apparently not many people have eyes...

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  33. they are thinking with their vaginas

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  34. 5. [+68, -7] Eric is just all man.

    Hmm, how about, "Eric is just all heart" ? That has a nicer ring to it, wouldn't you say? His leadership and loyalty is something you encounter Once in a Lifetime ^^

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  35. what does Alumini even has to do here? Are you reading correctly? This person is talking about "IN TO THE FIRE" and "IRIS"...

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  36. Because after they found Shinhwa Company, Eric wants to focus solely on Shinhwa so he stop his solo activities for some time http://absolutshinhwa.wordpress.com/2012/01/18/12-01-18-eric-all-in-for-shinhwas-comeback-but-all-stop-for-acting-projects/

    Journalist Jung Seok Hee: "I heard that his (Eric's) reason for not working on his individual projects is
    because he wanted to focus on strengthening Shinhwa. Such loyalty and
    big-thinking, I really like it." Souce: http://absolutshinhwa.wordpress.com/2012/12/14/12-14-12-naver-journalists-club-review-people-of-2012-featuring-eric/

    Nevertherless, it needs a bit of luck to with the projects.... Not just the idols but the full blown actors/actress would hit a slump in bad project at time.... Being tied to Shinhwa's behind the sence works... the available time for him to take project is narrow already. I hope he has better luck with his next drama.

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  37. yeah but we're talking about TOP right now... people always bring another idols/actors just to make their bias look better or not so shitty

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  38. I have a feeling that during their early days they were the underdogs almost, the ones people wouldn't think would last. But look at them now. Showing a bond as brothers, a rare thing nowadays in idol groups

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  39. Not when they debuted, but afterwards yes, they gained much popularity. Eric especially. Oh, and they also appeared in some very famous variety shows of the time (anyone remember X-Man?) that helped their popularity even more.

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  40. he must be the greatest leader in kpop , there are many leaders whom i don't think have a specific role , they're just named leaders but with eric you can feel the leader vibe from him

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  41. Gosh people can not just be positive without starting an argument or throwing negativity around NB should moderate their comments the comment section is always such a mess

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  42. Sharing is caring. I believe this is their secret to their success and longetivity. They help each other out not only emotionally but financially. They might have promised each other that in the beginning.

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  43. LMAO so you want to said TOP just like Kim Tae Hee?? ok.. if he want to go far in his career he should start the game now.. but i never see doing 1st or 2nd male lead in any drama.

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  44. mine too..shinhwa just totally blew my mind..i still remember cramming for exams wen my headphones blasted shinhwa tracks...

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  45. Variety =/= Music

    Most boy group members were given a free pass when it came to variety, but Koreans still didn't care for their music.

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  46. lol I've noticed that too. netizens are always praising the first generation idols even though there's little to no difference between them and the idols now. Idols back then weren't that talented, didn't compose their own music, etc.



    it's just that nostalgia shit kicking in. It's like how people always glamorize old hollywood.

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  47. that person edited their comment

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  48. Shinhwa is ok but JYJ are legends.

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  49. LMAO are you drunk??

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  50. Their friendship is really such a amazingly strong bond, hearing about their closeness to each other makes me always smile a bit, even though I'm not even a fan.
    They really all have great personalities, I'm pretty sure there isn't any other band with such a strong friendship like them.

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  51. Just another netizenJune 17, 2013 at 3:35 PM

    And this is one of the many reasons why Shinhwa is awesome.

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  52. I first saw eric in spy myungwol. Thats how I fall in love. I really wanna see him in dramas again. Shinhwa san!

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  53. get out troll we do NOT need you here

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  54. he's honestly so amazing. so respectable.

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  55. so they won a Daesung at time when it was really hard to get one with Brand New because Koreans hated there music? i'm not saying they were on a HOT level but they were not a nugu group but a popular group

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  56. I find it amazing in a good way how Shinhwa is so appreciated and loved these days! Everywhere there's praise and even netizens are cheering for them :)) Hell, they even managed not to get hate for public service - which is a heroic feat !
    I don't know what the secret is - maybe the fact that they're simply very LIKABLE lol - but keep it that way <3 <3

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  57. I agree to disagree

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  58. woahh. really respect eric because if i in his position i don't think i can doing what he doing now.

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  59. Shinhwa and their friendship will always be legendary and something to look upon. ♥

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  60. Why it has so many downvotes? Shinhwa is so awesome to the point where delulu fans can't handle their awesomeness. They are legendary.

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  61. Daesung? LMAO dumb.

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  62. the more you know Shinhwa the more you like them and admire them, honestly Eric is a great leader and their members have really a strong bond, I hope they continue being sucessful many more years

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  63. JYJ is ok, but they are no legends. Not yet. Comeback to claim the title if they haven't disband, 10 years later at the very least.

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  64. i don't think they will be legend like shinhwa. They still have the problem to promoting in korea even the lawsuit was end..

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  65. Okay, that's it. Youtube here I come! The nostalgia is killing me.

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  66. Haha, I remember spending so much time on Youtube trying to find every single video of them, but there wasn't much material back then! XD

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  67. I think they could take the credit if they could stay together for that long... But as for now, JYJ is nowhere near to be called a legend.

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  68. The thing is that I don't even see him that attractive...

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  69. lol i want to win a Daesung too

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  70. Yes, maybe now that the award has been watered down to reflect political agendas and "my fandom has more people than yours so ha" mindset.

    Shinhwa's Daesang is one that commands respect.

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  71. you are saying the Daesang awards are dumb or me? i don't care either way

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  72. I got ten thousand words to say about how awesome Shinhwa is but I'll just say one: AWESOME. 'Nuff Said

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  73. If you can compare. Which one of idols from second generation who near/same of term popularity like shinwa back then? *I think you can copare with groups who had debut before 2010*

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  74. I Just heard about how they didn't break up as group. But i rarely heard about they become the famous ones back then. Maybe let say as one of national boys group.


    Well, i just believe someone has their time to shining :).

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  75. lol it's because you wrote daesung (big bang member), not daesang (the award) lol

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  76. All of these Shinhwa articles make me smile. :)

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  77. Don't bring JYJ into this to start shit. Guys just ignore the troll.

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  78. Winning awards then is no different from winning them now. If you have a lot of fans who buy your albums, you have a good chance at winning. That's how it always has been.

    What you don't understand is that male idol groups only had their fans. To the general public, they were a joke. They were considered robotic, manufactured, cheesy, unrealistic, etc.

    No male artist was taken seriously unless they compared to the likes of Seo Taiji, Lee Seung Chul, Cho Yong Pil, Kim Gun Mo, and more.

    The last male artist to achieve National status was Rain, and it wasn't even for his music. It was because he became an International star.

    There's a reason why Big Bang is so huge in Korea. Because G-Dragon was so involved with their music, they were given a free pass.

    There is no reason for you to try to defend them. I'm just telling you what it was like back then. They are indeed popular right now, but that is because they managed to build a good reputation for themselves after their music career ended, and when they started to focus more on variety, acting, etc.

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  79. I think they managed to escape from the hate because they served quietly, as a normal celebrity should do. At that time sns like twitter is not popular yet.. Its hard to know what they were up to during the hiatus; only from the fan accounts. the precious moment to shinhwa shangjo was when Dongwan informed the members gathering through his naver blog..

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  80. judging everyone who take this comment serious.

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  81. The group and SM received a lot of criticism that Shinhwa was merely a clone of H.O.T and weren't really offering anything new. HOT fans hated them because they thought shinhwa would replace them...first album was a disappointmentbut the second album was a hit. "T.O.P" (Twinkling of Paradise) earned the love of the fans and was the group's first song to reach #1 on the music charts. The success of the album helped springboard Shinhwa from H.O.T fill-in's to become its own distinctive group and was the catalyst for much of their future success.

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  82. From trainee days until now, Eric has always been the same.
    I feel proud as I hear more and more about the man we called the leader of Shinhwa!

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  83. [+249, -11] Eric is truly one of the driving factors behind Shinhwa's
    longevity and success. Proves just how important the leader's position
    is.

    [+68, -7] Eric is just all man.

    [+66, -2] I'm proud that
    there's a group that has been around for as long as Shinhwa has in
    Korea... I hope they exist even when they're grandpas.


    +1 for all these three... seriously this is why i respect eric so much, eventhough he sometimes looks childish ^^



    nado, i hope to see they still together when they are grandpas.. ^^

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  84. You are right.i really dislike he acted so macho like in spy myungwool I think.as in shinbang's villain acting, I can see he can potray other images as well.

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  85. What I like about eric is he really does his job as a leader.not like some idol leaders that call themselves leaders yet acting like 5 years old kids.

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  86. you never see him cause you don't follow his activities lmfao. If you did, you'd know that he's the lead role in a movie with Kim Yoo Jung

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  87. Eric is the model leader. He really cares for his members.

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  88. Que Sera Sera was superb. So. much. angst.

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  89. AHHH, I LOVE SHINHWA <3

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  90. I think Shinhwa becomes special now because they can maintain the group in the industry for this long. They also could compete with their Idol hoobaes despite the strong market competition. I didn't know Kpop back in the day, but according to Wikipedia they actually had pretty much achievements. I don't find anything wrong these netizens "praise Shinhwa to highheavens", because on this level, they deserve it.

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  91. True, but Shinhwa are good, they still got it :P

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  92. Unfortunately, I was only a little kid back then...I wish I could have known them that early on :P

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  93. Eric is simply an amazing leader.

    He handled the legal negotiations when Shinhwa left SM and were starting over again. He was in meetings for days in order for Shinhwa to continue to promote under their name. It wasn't easy, but he made it.

    They really love eachother like family, I hope they stay together for a very long time <3
    SHINHWA ARE LEGENDS <3

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  94. yeah, me too ^^ most of shinhwa songs on their early days reminds me of studying for exams because i played them on repeat when i studied back then, lol..

    shinhwa san!

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  95. I don't see any other first generation idol groups these days being praised, except for Shinhwa... Probably because they all disbanded. That might have something to do with it.

    The only first-generation idols who come up regularly are Lee Hyori, Tony, Danny, and whoever else is still kind of active. Otherwise, all we hear about them is if they get married or if they're going to jail like Go Young Wook.



    Shinhwa was ALWAYS been recognized as a group with great variety skills. They didn't have a lot of songs like H.O.T.'s "Candy" but they made their mark in their own way.


    Don't speak as if you know or understand anything. Go back to praising CL's shitty song or something.

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  96. I would agree about his previous roles but he pleasantly surprised me in 71 (also I cried like a baby). But then again 71's role was basically written for him and he said himself that he worked with a really amazing team. I'm curious to see him in other roles and wish he wouldn't typecast himself lol. IMO he has potential.

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  97. But idols aren't only about music. Variety plays a huge role. And in this article it's about their personality, not about their music.

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  98. You do know he's the leas male in the movie he's coming out in. He was also suppose to be the lead male in a drama with kim tae hee i think but he turned it down

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  99. lol i just saw that

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  100. i am not surprised to be honest i mean if i hear any good news from SHinhwa i really wouldn't be surprised cuz all of them are known for good deed, excellent synergy, manners and above all the Talent that an aritist should have.. and my god their concerts are probably the best maybe it comes from experience but i was awed by how they interacted with the fans i have watched other group's concert too but none were like Shinhwa's the Changjos were all synergised so, it was easier to communicate.. shinhwa fighting

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  101. KyukyukyuInvaderrrJune 17, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    6. [+66, -2] I'm proud that there's a group that has been around for as
    long as Shinhwa has in Korea... I hope they exist even when they're
    grandpas.

    *imagines grandpa Shinhwa trying to dance on Inkigayo or MCountDown with canes and walkers* Dope

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  102. they were perhaps more popular than the said group considering the time as they debuted at least 8 years earlier than current idol groups.. so at that time idol was new so was the audience but still they would top music charts and sell albums and not to forget that they were the first hallyu stars that was demanded out of JApan (well japan feels more like home country of kpop these days).. so yes they were and if u see their performance, they are STILL as popular as bigbang and other maybe their international fans aside asia is small as they just had comeback 2 year back with 6 years of hiatus

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  103. like they shit on suju for doing public service, but all of Shinhwa's members except one did the same and i've never seen anyone mention it before.

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  104. Shinhwa was always loved by korean fans, they are not legend for nothing.. difference is just that when they went hiatus for almost 6 years with last 4 years being completely off media due to their army enlist. and those were the time when Kpop got extremely popular internationally so, since they had no activity there was no reason bring article about hate or love. infact i remember till last year when they made comeback every international k-pop websites like allkpop, seaoulbeats, netizenbuzz and other didn't really had any article about shinhwa as most of the current audience don't know about them and they made their comeback on rather small scale trying to dedicate only to their fans who waited for 4 years but now their shinhwa board cast (u should check out) and recent comeback and promotion is opening their market again so, of course netizens also got the opportunity to write about them.. nevertheless i won't deny that their longevity is also one reason why netizens love Shinhwa cuz koreans have such culture where they believe in unite power more than individual..

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  105. 4. [+98, -4] Jun Jin shared his CF income too ㅎㅎ The members are just filled with loyalty for one another. I hope we get to see a 50th anniversary dinner show from them someday.

    And shinwa become grandfather idol

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  106. they are one of the very few idols to receive two daesang award for one album (Brand New)and several bonsang award (for almost every album) also they have won at least one music show award after their second album T.O.P till to date including many awards such as best dance, song of the year and best male artists
    not just music which is re-known for singing live from their 4 album wild eyes till to date they were and are also very popular for cfs, dj, acting, musical, solo activities and above all Variety infact they were the first variety idol as back in days all idols concept was to be mysterious so, they WERE and ARE still very famous

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  107. wow u know nothing do you? they have been actively producing their own songs from their album Brand New i think its 5th album back in 2004 when non of your current idol even debuted and they have been choreographing the dance from their first album too.. its an utter nonsence to even compare first generation idols to compare with current idols cuz back in days had no good training sessions provided unlike now how they have prepare and train first before they debut
    and do you know why people glamorise old singers/painters/writers or any artistic stuff in the first place because they were pure talent coming from inside not the nurtured ones with very skilled teachers.. they are original and without much help they could be so amazing can u imagine how they would be in current generation where you could be trained and nurtured?

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  108. ah, really want to see Actor Mun's comeback this year. Especially on big screen T___T he was so great during Diary of June on 2005. And so glad to see netizen praising him... He used to receive many critique too abt his acting back then.

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  109. Maybe because all the general public knew why five of them couldn't go to army.. they have had too many accidents, car accident, really bad injuries etc.. it's all on the news so they already know that it's impossible to enlist for army with those conditions. Hyesung couldn't even enlist at all. And yes they five of them enlisted quietly, months after they had their 10th anniversary concert.

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  110. then you think shinhwa has not been involved with their music they have been co-producing and now solely producing their song back in the days from 2004 and mind you bigbang debuted arroung 2006 and onl started got involved in music i think arround 2007/8 so, shinhwa was involved almost 4 years earlier them ok.. and since they produced their own album from choreography to lyrics and music since Brand New album they received two Daesang award which has vey slim chances.

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  111. Unfortunately you are wrong, Korea did give a crap abt Shinhwa back in the day. They were always on TV, thru dramas, varieties and music shows. They already gained public recognition. Their relevancy & popularity dropped after they went hiatus for 4 years. And then the really big hallyu wave appeared when Shinhwa's still enlisting. If you are new to Kpop after 2009, it's quite understandable that you don't know this :)


    And says who, they wasn't labeled as national idols? They were one of the first that became a Hallyu star back then. They were the original Hallyu star, just like DBSK. And of course they praised Shinhwa to highheavens bcs they deserved it. Not just because the current generation is so frustrating for netizens.

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  112. "They didn't have a lot of songs like H.O.T.'s Candy but they made their mark, especially to their fans."



    I think T.O.P, Wild Eyes & Perfect man made a mark in the Kpop Industry :) Many idols still covered it now.. from Super Junior to Teen Top, they all covered one of those songs.

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  113. It's understandable if you don't know how popular they were back then if you know Kpop after 2009. Hmm... how to explain this... they maybe as popular as Super Junior/Big Bang back then? Because general public know their song, they're active on varieties, appear in so many CFs, and active as solo artist too. But after they went hiatus for 4 years, their popularity dropped~ and there was when hallyu wave is happening.

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  114. "Idols back then weren't that talented, didn't compose their own music, etc. not much diff from idols nowadays."



    unfortunately this doesn't apply to Shinhwa, they've been participating a lot to their music since they're in SM. Shinhwa is one of the group that build SM's dance foundation. And, in 2004, when they left SM and gained more freedom with their new company, most of songs in their 7 jib are arranged & composed by them. They also made their own choreos since 1998.

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  115. Maybe because all the general public knew why five of them couldn't go to army.. they have had too many accidents, car accident, really bad injuries etc.. it's all on the news so they already know that it's impossible to enlist for army with those conditions. Hyesung couldn't even enlist at all. And yes five of them enlisted quietly, months after they had their 10th anniversary concert.

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  116. Que Sera Sera was amazing... that drama gave so much feels. The ending frustrates me... and I couldn't move on from that drama for days ;__;

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  117. they were at Super Junior level, I guess. their popularity is similar, because SJ also active on varieties. But really u actually can't compare, Kpop industry these days is different than in the past.

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  118. I know... it was really frustrating how international fans still didn't understand about Shinhwa, until now. They haven't got a grasp of how Shinhwa build this Kpop industry, and how half of their oppar & unnir wanted to be an idol by seeing Shinhwa..

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  119. Idols appear on television all the time, people still don't give a crap about them. There's a reason why the shows they are on usually have ridiculously low viewer ratings, and are almost always cancelled.


    I've been listening to Korean music since 1997. I think I know more than enough.

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  120. The thing to note is the members who enlisted did so quietly. They didn't make a big deal out of their time in the military and never gave anybody a reason to badmouth their situation. That's why nobody mentions it, because there's nothing to discuss.

    Don't misunderstand, it was an issue of health that prevented Eric, Dongwan, Junjin and Minwoo from becoming active duty soldiers, not celebrity sickness. The same goes for Hyesung, who was unable to enlist even for Public Service due to an unresolved injury.

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  121. "There's a reason why Big Bang is so huge in Korea. Because G-Dragon was so involved with their music, they were given a free pass."

    For your information, before ur oppar even knows how to compose, Shinhwa already release many self-composed songs. they've been participating a lot in their music ever since they were in SM. Shinhwa is one of the group that build SM's dance foundation. And, in 2004, when they left SM and gained more freedom with their new company, most of songs in their 7 jib are arranged & composed by them. Eric & Minwoo are widely known as producer. They also made their own choreos since 1998.

    "What you don't understand is that male idol groups only had their fans. To the general public, they were a joke. They were considered robotic, manufactured, cheesy, unrealistic, etc."

    this doesn't apply to Shinhwa too, because they appeared in many varieties, so general public recognized them too from their personality. And they're never one of those idols group that take care of their idol image, they always portrayed by the public as an human-like idol. Because they're honest in interviews.

    Ask anyone in Korea, who doesn't know T.O.P, Wild Eyes & Perfect Man. everyone knows~ Those songs are big hit in Korea.

    "Winning awards then is no different from winning them now. If you have a lot of fans who buy your albums, you have a good chance at winning. That's how it always has been."



    Nope, this is not legit true. Did u get into kpop after 2009 or before 2009? Right now year-end award is all about popularity contest, but back then it was more difficult to earn first position. Of course fandom is a big strength, but also general public & quality of music. Back then, Kim Joongkok did win a daesang, and many solo artists also won a daesang. Right now, it seems impossible, right.

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  122. "There's a reason why the shows they are on usually have ridiculously low viewer ratings, and are almost always cancelled." are u applying the 'they' here as Shinhwa? Haven't you watch SBS X-Man where Shinhwa appeared many times as the guest, individually/group? SBS Love Letter, the variety show that made for Shinhwa, and extended bcs of the sky high rating? Haven't you watch Love Mansae which has Dongwan in it? Haven't u watch Dream Team, where Junjin was one of the aces? The rating were all high, if i recall correctly.

    If you're applying 'they' here as an Idol, Shinhwa are not idol-typical. They're the real variety gold, and the one that opened the path for the hoobaes to be active in varieties.


    Well it surprised me they you've been listening to Kpop since 1997 but didn't notice how Shinhwa was one of the biggest back in their heyday. Maybe ppl see things in a different way :)

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  123. "Eric and TOP both have the voice and the face to make great actors"



    I have the eyelashes and toenails to be a good surgeon

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  124. They were popular, but H.O.T, Sechs Kies, and g.o.d were more popular, TBH. They were always in H.O.T's shadow when H.O.t were still active.

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  125. Pillsbury DoughBoyJune 17, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    Now if 71:Into the Fire hadn't happened, I would have right with you. But it did. And T.O.P did a great job. It's unfair to reduce his acting to a good face and a deep voice (because a netizen said so nonetheless *eyeroll*), when he received tons of praise from very credible sources as well as amazing reviews from people who didn't know who the hell he was. That being said, you can't please everyone and that's why people (ie you) shouldn't make objective statements.

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  126. I actually don't find him handsome no matter what..prolly because he looks like the kid from my neighborhood so I'm kinda used to his face

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  127. Pillsbury DoughBoyJune 17, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    T.O.P has been the lead role many times already. He was lead in 71:Into the fire and Nineteen. Main character in Iris and I am Sam. smh The fact that this took 6 hours for someone to say is telling on the depth of knowledge of ppl commenting here. Ke.

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  128. HawtGuysToCumOverJune 17, 2013 at 9:26 PM

    wait TOP is good at acting?

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  129. tbh when i first heard about top everyone was saying about how hot he was that it's unbelievable. and when i finally saw him, i was kinda confused because i didnt see it. but i guess his face grows on you

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  130. Well he was nominated/won awards for his role in Into The Fire.

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  131. best leader by facts (not just cuz he won best leader polls), indeed ^_^

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  132. <3 as SHCJ.. i'm reallly proud to see our oppa always got positive comments from korean netizens!!! I'M VERY PROUD <3 i really hope i will see their 50th anniversary concert in the future! i will bring my kids!

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  133. OMG! Min Woo... Aren't we a little excited? :O

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  134. yeah i know jyj rocks...now stop trolling k

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  135. Ok, this is for every body that is comparing Seunghyun to Kim Tae Hee

    • Kim Tae Hee - 33 years old

    • Seunghyun - 25 years old

    • Kim Tae Hee - Have lots of scandals was recently involved on one, is 33 now.

    • Seunghyun - Don't have any scandals, is a know rapper, producer,actor and has lots of opportunities ahead.

    • Kim Tae Hee - Debuted as an actress on 2000

    • Seunghyun - First debuted as an rapper, and later debuted as an actor on the drama I am Sam, on 2007.

    • He and Kim Tae Hee have a 8 years difference on age.

    • He and Kim Tae Hee have 7 years of difference at act.

    Who have more potential?

    TOP can improve, he has loads of time on his hands to do so.
    Being handsome it's not a sin. There are lots of actors/actress who live from their face.

    By the way have you watched 71 - Into the fire? How many idol-actors can pull of that character? Not even half of them can.

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  136. Everything that I wanted to say was said by the netizens, and also some people in this comment section. But well,,


    Eric is trully the best leader. He is 4D, on the variety show he shows people how childish he is, doing aegyo etc. But no one can deny that he is actually really mature, think deeply about shinhwa's future, not only his own. I'm glad he keep shinhwa together. It's greater because he did it in times when he actually could throw away other members and benefitted himself. But of course other members are still important factors that keep shinhwa together. They still follow him until this day. I mean they're not child anymore, Andy the maknae now is Teentop and 100% producer, but he and other member still follow his instructions as leader. It's a thing.

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  137. Grandpa Eric <3 continue to stay flawless and 4D!

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  138. Good work Eric as the leader....FIRST get all the member first n then SECOND get the group name back

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  139. He was even the main character beside those big names like Cha Seung Won, Kwon Sang Woo, Kim Seung Woo, won the award for best new actor?
    Tell me about Kim Tae Hee!

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  140. "kid from my neighborhood"??? I don't know why people just usually use this term but look at your comment and I can understand now...wow

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  141. Right! He is only starting. He has a really looong way in front of him. Why compare him to her. He is way better!!!

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  142. Oh come on. Shinhwa never had popularity like Big Bang's. They had more of SHINee's level of popularity, TBH. They got more popular individually and as a group after they left SM. That was when they stepped up with the variety shows, and the same time that Eric was hitting it big with dramas. To say they were ridiculously popular is false because even they know they weren't as popular as H.O.T, Sechs Kies, and g.o.d.

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  143. Actually I'm just a new shinhwa changjo, So I don't really understand, about shinhwa back then. But seriously, Leeteuk cried galons of tears in many shows, that's enough action to be hated. Seeing him cry once is more than enough, he is man afterall. I'm not even Korean, I don't really understand the importance of military duty, but doesn't other Korean males also have to go to the army? Did they cry a river like Leeteuk? Man seriously....


    I remember the Win Win shows, Andy talks about he cannot be part of 4th album. His story is more heartbroking than Leeteuk in military. But he shared it in 2012. He kept his mouth shut back then. In old "Can I sleep over tonight" show back then, he only answered he couldn't participate because of family reason, not the whole story, not crying. Beside, Shinhwa enlisted quetly didn't they?

    For a celeb, image is everything. So, don't blame shinhwa for keeping their image well.

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  144. well.. everyone is entitled to their opinion~ I see it that way. and I've never said they were 'ridiculously' popular, but they had their heydays when they were really popular, first with T.O.P and then with Brand New, and their songs were also known to general public such as Wild Eyes & Perfect Man.
    And of course I know Shinhwa is always a 2nd place compared to H.O.T and Sechkies, but as far as i know they considered themselves as G.O.D's rival. And at dream concert, the amount of orange balloons are always increasing, even in 2008, when Shinhwa didn't perform, only Hyesung&Minwoo, the orange balloons are still there, 3 blocks i think.


    yep that's why i said, Shinhwa is kinda buried, bcs intl' fans mostly only heard of DBSK, Rain, Se7en, Hyori & BoA etc

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  145. why are you make a long post that has nothing to do with the article? If other people comparing KTH and TOP, you can always reply to them, directly.

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  146. Because I felt like doing so! U MAD?

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  147. I only watched TOP in " Into The Fire" . His acting was not bad for a rookie...

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  148. Yesung and Heechul are physically unfit too. Shinhwa members all along weren't active on SNS that's why they're quiet whereas a tweet from Yesung is considered not quiet. Only Leeteuk had celeb sickness.

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  149. the reason of shinhwa's existence until now is 50% because of Eric,look at how much he had gave up to keep shinhwa alive.if eric was a shitty person,eventhough the other members were good they will disband already.

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  150. andy and eric could choose to not get enlisted but they chose to serve the military, even though it's public service (andy served as active duty), it's pretty much a big deal y'know considering that they gave up their american citizenship.

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  151. u mean being shameless and promoting themselves as idols for the rest of their life??? pathetic.

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  152. Shinhwa's brotherhood ties are prolly the few beautiful things in the K-ent industry.

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  153. "I'm not even Korean, I don't really understand the importance of military duty,"


    Just to let you know, it's one very simple answer: North Korea.

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  154. During late 90s, actually nobody thinks that idol bands can last long than 4 years regardless how much popularity they got.

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  155. i remember watching eric's drama before i even knew kpop and his acting was good^^

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  156. at least Yoochun did great job as actor

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  157. they debuted during IMF, it was the wrong time for anyone to make a debut because many people in korea during that time lost their job. they and finkl have hard time because of IMF. they got their large popularity through t.o.p which yoo jaesuk mentioned before that the song storms korea. since then their popularity soars high until the 6 years long hiatus from the music shows started.

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  158. he acts like 5 year old sometimes too lol he's always the one that starts bullying the members but he knows when to be serious and when to have fun


    ahhh my kid leader :)

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  159. unlike today, the popularity of idol bands back in late 90s is so obvious. gil of leesang shared his experiences being a part of 1st generation idols: after hot or sechkies or g.o.d or shinhwa done with their performances, the audiences went home. i always see audiences's back during that time.

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  160. their songs are the most covered in kpop and still covered today.
    yoo jaesuk once said t.o.p stormed korea. only people experienced the popularity of kpop in the late 90s knows it.

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  161. different generation had different idols. actually there is alot of kpop channel on mirc where you can download their songs and mvs. like many kpop fans, they started to leave kpop fandom for something more important like raising family, making money for their future etc.

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  162. they got many hit songs and still you said that koreans didnt care for their music aigoo.

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  163. their popularity with the other three you mentioned have up and down. h.o.t is the most popular among the three. none of the three ever reach h.o.t's popularity, not even idols today. they got 780 thousand fans alone in korea. sechskies obviously more popular than g.o.d and shinhwa. but shinhwa and g.o.d are already considered kings of kpop because their popularity is so obvious at that time.

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  164. lol that shadow gone by the time they released t.o.p. lets not make assumption, sticks to facts please. besides shinhwa was totally different from h.o.t because they are like g.o.d, has a friendly image in the public.

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  165. Leeteuk and Heechul maybe. But about yesung, yes. My friend is a big fans of yesung, she was super sad when yesung get hated for being public service. She thinks that it is because of Suju's image already in downfall because of some members.

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  166. Heechul had the serious car accident that caused him to have a metal rod in his leg.

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  167. i hope you watched oldboy and memories of murder.
    and you'll see there are more to korean actors than you think

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  168. Heechul and Yesung both enlisted quietly and they both had a reason to not be active soldier. Only Leeteuk made a big deal out of it and he enlisted as an active soldier, so you can't really use that excuse to explain the different treatments reserved to Shinhwa and sj

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  169. Leeteuk = 1/13 of Suju, the other three who enlisted did it quietly and did not "cried galons of tears in many shows"

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  170. HOT >>>>>> Shinhwa

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  171. Que Sera Sera may not be for every one cus it was so different from the norm (probably why the rating wasn't high) but it's really superb in acting & directing but it didn't yield commercial rating...



    When we say "he just needs to pick better project", it's really hard to foresee how the rating will turn out. I guess luck is quite important as well as what the compettions are for the time slot.


    Though, most watch certain drama cus they feel connected to it regardless of the rating. Even with Spy Mungwol script writer messed up the story line 1/2 way through, there're people (non fan) loving that drama for what it is. It doesn't mean they have bad taste, it's personal preference an connected to certain dramas :)

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  172. I didn't know them back then either, but I'm going to catch up as best as I can! ^_^

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  173. Really, he got lots of criticisms? I wasn't around back then but I've always heard from others (I guess mostly fans) that his acting is pretty good. Plus he's won at least one award for his acting.

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  174. Eric is amazing. The rest of the members are also amazing. And Shinhwa's bond is just amazing.

    It's too bad Eric hasn't come back to acting but at the same time so commendable that he's putting Shinhwa first. I've still yet to watch his old stuff but Super Rookie is on my "to-watch" list. Even if he did comeback (and hopefully someday he will) I would only want him to do so if he was able to work on a good project with talented writers and such.
    Also, I do kind-of wish he'd either disband Stellar or have them switch to a different management so he didn't have to worry about managing them anymore.

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  175. Strawberry Honey_MusicJune 18, 2013 at 9:37 AM

    2. [+249, -11] Eric is truly one of the driving factors behind Shinhwa's longevity and success. Proves just how important the leader's position is.

    I soo agree with this. Being a Leader is not only a position/name but a role model that it's members can look up to.

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  176. Spy Mungwol was the wrong genre for me. Eric needs to stick with angsty shit where he's the bad boy and he broods a lot.

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  177. wow.. try harder troll. Been listening kpop since 1997? how worse can your lie get? just from your answer it is wide as clear that you are preety new to Kpop and your bias group has been having a trouble or getting negative comments from netizens or they just simply don't bother to come out in variety or you simply just can't digest the fact that apart from your bias group the old men of Shinhwa is getting much praise so all i can say is now get a life before you enter the enemy's teriotrity get some FACTS right!
    May Google help you or do u want me to send the links next time? unless you can't read it right you should know what all of us been talking about..

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  178. not disputing but not sure if it's relevant at all to the post?

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  179. H.O.T and Sech Kies debuted almost 2 years earlier before Shinhwa so, comparing them is like comparing bigbang with exo i know time difference is a lot but mind you the fact that they were the first Idol group ever in history so that counts a lot.. so yes they were much popular back then but eventually SHinhwa got on the same level but could never be recognised cuz after almost two year of debut both of them disbanded and other new group debuted. G.O.D on other hand was on the same level it was up and down their debut date was not so far if my memory servs right so, basically they were rival and the winner is i would say Shinhwa cuz they still exists although its a shame that G.O.D had to disband as they were very talented too.. but i think Shinhwa has the most awards till to date given they are the longest running idol but also because of popularity cuz if they were not popular and audience do not seek for them they would have disappeared sooner too.. THIS LOVE their recent comeback and all those netizen's comments are the proof of how much they are popular :)

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  180. great explination my friend but this troll will never understand or rather try to understand it cuz i been trying too so now i would recommend to give up on himor her as its simply waste of time and words i will do so too.. long live SHinhwa and SHinhwa Changjos :)

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  181. "Idols back then weren't that talented, didn't compose their own music"


    h.o.t's moon heejun and kangta composed tons of songs, same with shinhwa members, like minwoo for example.

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  182. they were more popular than Bigbang i think if u consider the time i am not talking about the numer of awarness cuz now its very easy but they were the ones who opend the new world to korean music industry the so called Hallyu wave which current idols are riding on. so, now u tell how the hell did people outside of korea came to know about SHinhwa back in days where internet didn't really play big role? so considering back in the days they were far more popular that now current idols ofcourse now Bigbang and other idols wins but almost double cuz after the door was opened Shinhwa was enlisted so, international fans rarely know them may be now they will hopefully..

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  183. then ask them to change their name first lol.. troll like you are what makes JYJ have bad image i love JYJ well maybe not as much as i do SHinhwa so, brace yourself to your own fandom stop trashing arround..

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  184. what is more pathetic is YOU who can't see other peoples success! what is shameless on promoting as an idol for the rest of their life? they started as idol so they will remain as one if you have not got any goals in life just start studying first before dising people like a loser... in fact only losers know how to bark loud... tsk tsk what a pathetic troll

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  185. I was itching to give a reply after reading your comment. Netizens have always praised Shinhwa because they deserve it, not only because they are 1st generation idol. Who said that they are not that talented. FYI Shinhwa's members actually involved in the making of their album, especially Minwoo and Eric. Minwoo has compose and written lyrics for Shinhwa's albums and his solo albums. And he also write lyrics for other artists, for example Jewelry: Superstar and Baby One More Time, this song even get daesang. Minwoo and Junjin are also involved in their dance choreography. So do not equate Shinhwa with the idols today.

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  186. LOL You're so funny!!! ^^

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  187. according to your theory, Moon Heejun should be defined as top star now. People will reminisce how his fan kill herself when he got into dating scandal. And people will love him forever after.

    FYI, if you havent listened to any Shinhwa's song, I'm gonna tell you that these day they actually produce new music, new song, and not just remake their old songs and let people nostalgic about them. That's how they manage to get new and younger fans, including me.

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  188. I'm into kpop since 2010 and knew shinhwa when i heard many idols want to be like them. I saw the daum fancafe rank and saw the orange princess always on top 6. So, i asked, " Who are they ? Are they first generation idol who had broke up? But why they still have many fans though they're not active again?". I heard Eric and Andy name but still dunno who they are. Until they The Return comeback and i just went WOW! They still alive? They made me amazed them more...

    Then i watched Shinhwa Broadcast (made me know why they called as Variety God), listened to their music (Brand New and TOP never old to me! I love it so much!), watched their old MVs and Varieties.. so here i am.. Decided to be one of their orange princess. This Love is truly amazing and the vogue is so unique and different. They always gave the "new me" on every albums. I love all song in The Classic <3


    So Eric... I respect you the most who keep our "shinhwa" and keep your words to be going with shinhwa over 10 years! Thank you so much...
    super handsome, good rapper, good actor, good leader, good CEO, sigh... how can i do not love you.... :')

    And shinhwa is my very first idol i love all of them as group and individual. It's so hard to hate them, right?^^

    *sorry about my rant (and my bad english).. i just grateful could 'meet' them in their 14th years :')

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  189. Well, Shinhwa does comes from the generation where most companies didn't really have money, including SM. So it's easy to view them with respect. SM didn't start their overseas expansion until they got incorporated and didn't completely takeoff until Shinhwa's 3rd album.

    This is very different from the idols of today who have companies propping them up with so much flash. They'll even pay to send these idol groups to overseas performances just to give the impression of success domestically. It's hard not to get jaded, TBH.

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  190. Strawberry Honey_MusicJune 18, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    I, myself is regretting also that why does I just discovered K-Pop in 2010 and not in those early years where K-Pop is golden. Now I know, my young heart can't handle their hotness when I'm only 5 when they debuted. ^_^

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  191. eric played a very big role in keeping shinhwa together. but, if the other members were selfish, eric's efforts would be wasted. what i'm saying is, Shinhwa can still exist till now (hopefully until grandpa) because each of them sacrifices their own interests. their bond and stories really inspire their hoobaes and shinhwa changjo. they not only show how to be on top pf the game in the K-pop industry but also show us the true meaning of friendship and loyalty. i wish many many people inside and outside South Korea will recognize and give them more love. they totally deserve it. shinhwa fighting! <3

    ps : what i like from articles that gave reviews for shinhwa's songs, album, concert, those articles mostly wrote "friendship" "bond" "loyalty" "bromance". but for other groups, the articles just wrote standard comments like "they can sing well" "their songs are great" "the concert was great" etc. nothing too personal. unlike comments for shinhwa. kekeke.

    *proudSHCJ* \^o^/

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