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Wednesday, May 15, 2013

Will CL be bringing something different to the table


Article: Why is CL solo, what will be different?

Source: OSEN via Naver

1. [+751, -24] And Kang Seung Yoon will cry yet again today.

2. [+670, -69] All of the other female idols are either acting cutesy fake or acting like sl*ts with scraps of clothing so what crime did CL exactly commit? CL is unique. There's no bullying with 2NE1, they're not worked to death on variety shows, and they don't go into dramas with crappy acting skills. I feel like they're an overall wholesome group. I definitely prefer CL, who has a 'Made in Korea' face, as opposed to those other plastic surgery monsters.

3. [+645, -51] Looks like skills alone will be the one to factor into her success

4. [+676, -88] I feel like she would've done just as well had she debuted as a solo to begin with...

5. [+643, -75] CL is lacking in the visual department but her skills make up for it along with her unique fashion

6. [+577, -34] I'm older than CL but she has a force that just makes me have to call her unni...

7. [+506, -51] She's not pretty but she has a strong force to her.

8. [+485, -55] You have to admit that the industry has never seen a character like her before ㅋㅋ We've only ever seen female idols who act pretty or cute and can barely sing a line in a song but CL's decent at rapping, dancing, and singing, with good style to boot. I remember searching up 2NE1 the minute I saw their Fire debut stage.

9. [+302, -32] I don't know about her looks but I don't think there's another singer that can show as much on stage as CL can

10. [+269, -22] Honestly, judging on just music alone, I can imagine a 2NE1 without Sandara but I could never imagine a 2NE1 without CL

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251 comments:

  1. YES AND SHE WILL SLAY EVERYONE ON THE 28TH MY KWEEN SLAY-L OF SLAYNE1 OF SLAYG SLAYTERTAINMENT

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  2. She is the one who attracted me to 2NE1 (and kpop). I'm looking forward to her solo!

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  3. Honestly I'm excited about CL solo...after CL solo I have a feeling YG might let Minzy Dara & Bom have a solo & then 2NE1 album will release [ finally] I hope it works out that way, but w/ YG you'll never know [Still waiting patiently for their America debut album, its been 3 years & counting]. I hope the "new" thing she brings to the table is awesome...but anything w/ CL & 2NE1 is always awesome!

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  4. CL is basically the backbone of 2ne1, she'll do fine (most likely) :O

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  5. CL is fierce her confidence makes her beautiful she refused PS in a society and in a business that judge you so much on your physic you go girl i'm sure she is going to have lots of success

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  6. Lots of great comments. Great job, CL ^^ but this one tho, "10. [+269, -22] Honestly, judging on just music alone, I can imagine a 2NE1 without Sandara but I could never imagine a 2NE1 without CL" ouch for Sandara but true on the CL part.

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  7. [+485, -55] You have to admit that the industry has never seen a character like her before ㅋㅋ We've only ever seen female idols who act pretty or cute and can barely sing a line in a song but CL's decent at rapping, dancing, and singing, with good style to boot. I remember searching up 2NE1 the minute I saw their Fire debut stage.

    Although I am not a fan but I couldn't agree less with this comment "that the industry has never seen a character like her before"..I respect her

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  8. I'm not a 2ne1 fan but it's good to see some decent comments about CL.

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  9. Now if all BJs could say the same thing as these K-Netizens, everything would be mellow ♥

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  10. i confess, i totally feel the first comment. i was kinda hoping kang seung yoon would debut (that's not to say i don't like cl)

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  11. YG do give their artists great nicknames.

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  12. 6. [+577, -34] I'm older than CL but she has a force that just makes me have to call her unni... SO TRUE that is why she is the Leader ,compare to Dara and BOM who are much older she has lots of charisma

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  13. CL may not be one of the prettiest faces in the industry but her talent an skills are one of a kind that set her apart from the others.

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  14. thank you cl for existing

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  15. You mean you couldn't agree more? I'm confused. Either way, I think CL's solo will be awesome.

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  16. I'm only a casual Blackjack - I love their music and I know all of the members' names but I don't follow their activities - but CL is definitely my favourite along with Bommie. I also find her the prettiest in 2NE1 (I seriously don't get what's wrong with her face... she's prettier than an average Korean tbh)

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  17. as kewl~ unique~ and skilled~ as brooke candy and kreayshawn...

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  18. " . I
    definitely prefer CL, who has a 'Made in
    Korea' face, as opposed to those other
    plastic surgery monsters."

    XD,lol

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  19. But sorry I can't imagine 2ne1 w/o dara cuz OT4 is forever

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  20. I was just joking tho hahaha (I don't think my tone on that comment relayed my message quite effectively T___T)

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  21. I agree. I am not a blackjack,but my eyes are always on her when 2ne1 performs.

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  22. Damn, OSEN really is YG's bitch isn't it?

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  23. when k-netzint dont accept gay called them Racists but when you called person pig This is your opinion and we should respect it

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  24. lol @ #2. :"...CL who has a 'made in korea' face." technically speaking, the girls who have done plastic surgery also had their faces made in korea.
    i have mixed feelings about that comment, no need to bring others down to make your fave seem like the best.

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  25. I feel it will be heavily Rihanna-esque considering she's been looking exactly like her these days. I hope she doesn't go for some electo-crap song and actually raps. Though people say she can rap, sing and dance that doesn't mean she does it all WELL. Her singing needs A LOT of work and her rapping has regressed. I hope she doesn't write her own lyrics because the ones she does write are so basic, it's like I'm listening to Kreayshawn.

    Regardless, it should be interesting.

    And she has to learn to preform and not simply entertain. I watched more recently lives. She's barely rapping, or singing but screaming in the mic and making faces at the camera as she dances. Now CL stans can go on and on about her "hyping up the crowd" or giving "energy" but there are lots of artists who hype up the crowd/give lots of energy and still manage to actually preform and do it well. Visually it's all good but if I closed my eyes and listened to her, I would not enjoy myself at all because she can't preform well, just entertain. Hope she fixes that.



    And for commenter number #2, you shouldn't call out the fakeness of other female idols when CL herself is fake in that sense. Her image is not the real her. And you shouldn't slut sham when CL has been wearing less and less clothes these days.

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  26. CL will be like the korean Lady Gaga.

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  27. The person using the name "Daragon" is a troll --just in case you guys can't already tell.

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  28. Dara won't have a solo, she is so useless...
    can't wait for Bom.

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  29. CL is gonna do awesome. I know she's been waitin on this opportunity to showcase herself and now that she has the chance she is going to kill it.

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  30. Dara solo??

    i'm not hating but please be realistic. she can't sing, rap or dance. and she has no stage presence or charisma.

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  31. Dara is the heart of 2NE1

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  32. LOL That's okay, sweetie. :)

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  33. she is gonna rock the kpop world with her solo,

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  34. WonderfulZingMinMay 15, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    It may be just me but i don't like CL's 'rapping' skills... she isn't that unique either, she also does the what they call 'sl*t' dances.

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  35. 6. [+577, -34] I'm older than CL but she has a force that just makes me have to call her unni...

    7. [+506, -51] She's not pretty but she has a strong force to her.

    Lol the force is strong with this one. Knock 'em dead CL

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  36. she never dressed like a sl*t.

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  37. Whether you are a fan or an anti, u gotta admit that whatever CL does will be interesting.

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  38. plz nvr use that abbreviation

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  39. Dara as 2NE1 leader LMAO what a joke

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  40. Female G-Dragon in the making.

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  41. Dara would have been leader but it wouldn't have been fair bc she was the last one to be added to the group. I think she'd have been a good leader... she has a 'mom' feel to her

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  42. WonderfulZingMinMay 15, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    I wouldn't called it a sl*t but as every idol she has dressed provocatively. My point is not to call her like that or attack the way she dressed. It's that she is just like any other idol and I don't get the way how any other idol gets hated on when they wear things like that and CL is called unique. I don't mean for CL to be called names either.

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  43. Probably not. The way YG does it, he usually releases one solo to generate some hype before a group comeback. Dara and Bom already did their solos. I'm sure Minzy's will come when the time is right.

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  44. I've been wanting a Minzy solo too, I think she's a better singer than all of 2NE1, and I don't mind her dancing except when she's shaking her ass in front of the camera or grinding the floor :/

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  45. that is a lot of expectations you must think highly of CL

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  46. Is screaming considered a talent?

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  47. Well, let's say there is a "way to dress like a slut", does that negate the fact that she dances like other girls who are deemed "sluts"? Does that give her a free ride?


    http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mekt5zvdf31qbjmc3o2_500.gif



    If that were any other girl, they would have been attacked with degrading terms from left to right. CL wears clothes that would deem her a slut if she were any other person, so lbr.

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  48. what is going on with i-blackjacks? well you know i-fans, we like to bitch about everything everyday >__>

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  49. Well considering how she's hyped up, my expectations demand that she lives up to the hype.


    And these really aren't a lot of expectations, if she had the skill it wouldn't be anything at all. But we'll see when she comes out.

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  50. lol not really.... gd's popularity in kr is no joke. but i hope her single succeed like bom's

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  51. Finally something to look forward too!!~
    With other groups I follow, I'm always excited but anxious at the same time, wondering if they'll come up with something good or if they're gonna disappoint.
    But with 2NE1 i don't even have to think twice~
    Truly a group I stan for their music and incredible amount of energy they bring to their stages.

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  52. dancing has nothing to do with sexual activity.

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  53. of all the photos they could have used...


    just please don't let her sing.

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  54. i totally agree with the second comment

    good luck to CL XD

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  55. sandara is important

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  56. I hope she doesn't ft. anyone in her songs.
    I want pure CL goodness. I personally love her singing and that tone in her voice.
    28 MAY...CAN'T WAIT

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  57. CL WILL KILL EVERYONE IN KPOP

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  58. WHY DOES SHE GET TO WEAR REVEALING CLOTHES AND NO ONE ELSE CAN????!!!!!!!!!!!!??? FREAKIN DOUBLE STANDARDS

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  59. I don't know which one is worse,her singing or her rapping

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  60. I admit that some of Jeremy Scott's work is unique and cool but that looks like a nightmare .-.

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  61. Your trolling skills -_-

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  62. What? But bird /The Grinch CL is awesome ? LOLOLOL

    http://style.mtv.com//wp-content/uploads/style/2013/03/cl-jeremy-scott-id-magazine-3.jpg

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  63. It's her stomach, not her butt or cleavage. That aside, she's not actually being provocative or erotic as she's doing a tomboyish/R&B concept so that's different. When girls spread their legs on stage and hump the floor in mini skirts and leather boots that's when people start to hate...

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  64. first thing I thought of, lmfaooo

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  65. OHH MY GOD SHE LOOKS LIKE A SAD FERRET.

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  66. CL, the baddest female...rapper...in kpop.
    I love CL and I love her hype, but I wish she'd write more of her raps and spit the same fire just so she can have more credibilty.
    CL fighting!

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  67. lolll you should be worrying about 2pm's "singing" & "rapping" instead

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  68. i dont get it, so lets get this straight, CL is seen as talented because she is 'unique'? what brand of bullsh*t is this?! i've seen her rapping and singing skills and she is nothing compared to e.via, miryo, baby j and so on.even for an idol, all she does is shout loudly. seriously, is it because the lyrics she's given actually mean something (other than that brand of idol lyrical crap)? or is it because she is given a unique image by yg? because in terms of 'talent' she is pretty far down the list, with even a few idol 'rappers' being above her.

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  69. What? i didnt say anything about that outfit..

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  70. Minrio ? baby J? who the hell are they? LOL

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  71. look at CL dancing, only idiots will find this erotic.

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  72. this is cracking me up so bad.

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  73. Miryo is the rapper of Brown Eyed Girls. Baby J is the rapper for Jewelry. They are older groups, so that is probably why you do not know them very well.

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  74. her voice is sour as hell, that song in the cf with lee minho ugh

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  75. Gaga actually writes her songs

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  76. In my honest opinion. I think it depends..Female groups that are seen as attractive to the male fans, would most likely spark hate and jealousy among the female fans.That would result into the words 'slut' 'ho' 'whore' being thrown around so easily.


    I don't think that CL is very attractive among male fans...so they wouldn't really label her in such a provocative manner(or care that much). They would most likely call her other things that could be demeaning or not.


    FYI: I think CL is attractive, but others will probably think otherwise.

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  77. I'm curious to know what is going to be new..............plastic surgery maybe???

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  78. lmao....i was thinking the same

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  79. I'm going to be perfectly honest...........its because she's ugly.

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  80. lol just joking. I know. But most of JC clothes are for the worse...

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  81. She's great. I've seen her live at 2NE1's final solo concert in 2011 in seoul and.. goodgod. She's got the special something to get you into her performance completely.. She's amazing. And seriously.. just reading the comments you would expect some kind of Monster or so.. she's actually quite attractive, I don't get the hate she gets for her face.. oô

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  82. [+670, -69] All of the other female idols are either acting cutesy fake
    or acting like sl*ts with scraps of clothing so what crime did CL
    exactly commit? CL is unique. There's no bullying with 2NE1, they're not
    worked to death on variety shows, and they don't go into dramas with
    crappy acting skills. I feel like they're an overall wholesome group. I
    definitely prefer CL, who has a 'Made in Korea' face, as opposed to
    those other plastic surgery monsters.

    they dissed snsd, hyuna, sistar, suzy, and t-ara all in one comment. preach!

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  83. WaitingtobethumbeddownMay 15, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    Skills alone will NOT be the determining factor in this case, let's be honest. CL has the advantage of novelty.

    People are so caught up in her act, that they allow it to blur the lines of her actual talent. Her rapping is Ok. It's not great. It's good on occasion, but it's not superb. Her singing is alright. Not well, not great. And her dancing is pretty good, not amazing, but she's good at choreography. What she does have is energy and stage presence which makes up for ALL of the places she's lacking. People are so preoccupied with the energy and fun, they miss the fact that holy crap she sucks live vocally. Minzy upstages her in the dancing category, but CL's energy makes it so she gets more of the attention.

    Take CL, drop the gimmicks, drop the pyrotechnics, drop the flashy clothes, give her a spotlight and a mic -- she would fail to impress, just as she did at Gayo- Daejun.

    As someone else said, she is a entertainer, NOT a performer. She heavily entertains, but she lacks in the actual art of performing. She relies so much on her persona, and that's because it's what makes her seem great. I don't hate CL, but people saying her solo will be something based of skill alone is crap. Because it wont. She has the flash, image and novelty that will make people interested. She couldn't do it skill alone because that's where she's lacking most.

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  84. Hahahaha I know! XD I love them all but GEEEEZ.... just wish the fangirl who made that comment would just realize how hypocritical she is

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  85. Comment #2 is gross and I see shit like that way too often. Like, can we not?


    On that note, I'm looking forward to this. I'm not as big of a fan as I used to be, but I still find her very charismatic (when she's doing less yelling and being more natural).

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  86. This! You got the words out of my mouth. 2ne1 as a group is OK, they are able to complement each other´s weaknesses, but individually their weaknesses become so blatant. I couldnt´watch a recent performance of them after hearing CL´s hyena-like way of hyping the crowd in the beginning.

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  87. it's funny how people are questioning her singing talent when there are more dancers and visuals in kpop then GOOD singers lol

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  88. I think recently she´s been writing her rap because it sounds so awkward as hell...like when they performed with Lee Hi and the Inkigayo performance with Lee Hi. Not to mention her raps in their Japanese songs.

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  89. screaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam

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  90. WaitingtobethumbeddownMay 15, 2013 at 6:21 PM

    Well, because they are not as talented as their fans make them out to be. It's the concept that carries this group. It's the energy and the upbeat sense of it which makes them enjoyable. It makes them seem more than what they are. I'm not saying they are a horrible group, but I think people definitely over-hype their talent and actual skill because they are so focused on the fact that they are "different" and have so much energy.

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  91. I agree...she and Park Bom are the most popular members. When they debuted Dara made the public interested in her and in 2ne1. Each member in 2ne1 is important though...without CL the stage would be boring too because the others are too passive.

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  92. when they debuted they were actually the better one...they sang live and Park Bom´s voice was in good shape....but sadly now a lot of nugu groups are even better than them when it comes to talent, like SPICA. They also don´t have a good singer in the group anymore. Minzy is the best, but still not enough to compete with other group´s vocalist.

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  93. i wouldn't expect a troll to understand do you want me to dumb it down for you????

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  94. I wouldn't consider CL to be this super talented idol that many fans claim her to be. Her singing is average at best, her rapping is subpar/basic, and her dancing is competent. Add to the fact that they have all been steadily degressing with time, she's really just like any other female idol tbh. The only thing she truly excels in is performing, and even that has been turning into excessive screaming and yelling. Regardless, being a lively and entertaining performer =/= being a good singer/rapper/dancer. It's true that among other female idols she is unique, but mostly because of her image, not her talents, as there are female idols who are multi-talented, more so than CL. Just because she does more than one form of entertainment doesn't necessarily mean she's good at them. Overall, CL is really one of the best examples of a k-idol being overrated.

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  95. WaitingtobethumbeddownMay 15, 2013 at 6:34 PM

    A lot has changed since debut and tbh, Minzy is the only one that hasn't regressed.

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  96. lady gaga is a great singer and composers who happens to be weird

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  97. CL writes her rap part sometimes :)

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  98. I love how you had to pull things out of your ass so you can shade CL just because you're a fan of the worst thing to have spawned this earth aka Girls' Generation. CL may not write her songs, but at least she doesn't try to "write them" then get sent to court multiple times for stealing other peoples' written work.

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  99. WonderfulZingMinMay 15, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    That's not CL is it? o.o

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  100. Yes, they're other artists who are better than CL but that doesn't mean she's not talented.

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  101. I love how you throw shade on another group as if it validates your point at all.

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  102. WonderfulZingMinMay 15, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    Newbies...

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  103. Yeah, during their concert.

    She did a lot more, like the pole dancing, and more hair flips and stuff... she's been acting that way a lot more lately. I swear she's going in the Rihanna direction because she's acting and dressing JUST LIKE HER.

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  104. well, we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one

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  105. I don't know why people do this. They debase Kpop as a whole as if it makes their favorites any better. There are a lot of good singers in Kpop, CL isn't one of them. Just because there are visual and dancers everywhere that doesn't change her singing skills. Or lack of.

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  106. Solo concerts are viewed differently. The shit SNSD wears for their Lady Marmalade, or what KARA wears for their performances are not different. Netizens only hate it when artists do it on variety shows and music programs, 'cause those can be viewed by the whole nation.

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  107. That doesn't change anything though. And no that's incorrect. Kara was called sluts for their dresses during their concerts in Japan and SNSD were degraded for their costumes as well. The point has skimmed over your head entirely.


    And it's not like CL hasn't worn short shorts on music programs. I love you promotions were like short shorts haven for her.

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  108. lmao your statement doesn't make any sense at all, how the existance of so many dancers and visuals has anything to do with CL's cringe worthy siging and rapping? there's no logical conection between one thing and the other, you can dumb hat up more than already is.

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  109. don't make an assumption she is not my favorite at all, all i'm saying is that obviously singing is not the only thing that sells, entertainment has alot to do with it because if it didn't the dancers and visuals wouldn't matter so when ppl are saying "she lacks talent, so she will fail"
    that is bs

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  110. didn't she wore a swimsiut on stage on a gayo once?

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  111. i already explained it....your late as hell

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  112. you are embarrasing lol

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  113. l0l....i embarrassed you??? no your embarrassing yourself

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  114. But no one is saying that. People are saying that opposite, that her talent is NOT going to be her staple of success because she is not as talented as people try to push off.

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  115. Yeah. Idk people act like she hasn't been doing the "sexy" concept since debut. She was rolling on the floor, dancing on chairs, wearing tight clothes, showing off her stomach, shaking her butt... but I guess it doesn't count?

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  116. noobs, noobs is everywhere

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  117. She isn't the most beautiful idol, and she isn't the best female artist, but she definitely has stage presence and charisma. So I'm really looking forward to her solo stage.

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  118. If you do not like her face or sing and her rapper dance etc whatever so why you are here its Article about cl looool

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  119. if you don't like my comment feel free to down vote it i don't want to have a debate over different opinions

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  120. hahahaha omg i cant stop laughing everytime i see this pic!! XD I love CL but this is just too much LOL

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  121. have you heard of the group BEG, SPICA and EXID? tell me again how CL´s talents are one of a kind...not hating CL, she definitely deserves a solo since I have seen her always involved in music. You can see her eagerness and does not just wait to be called and follow Teddy and YG´s instructions like the other members. But, let´s get real in talent areas she can get chewed by any of the members of the groups I mentioned.

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  122. No one is debating over opinions. I'm pointing something out. But it seems you can't handle the simple fact that what you're saying has no merit because people aren't saying her lack of talent will be the reason he fails, but saying her talent isn't going to be the sole reason.


    Internet tip: Don't put up your opinion out there if you don't want deal with opposing ones.

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  123. thank you for explaining and not calling others newbies and noobs.

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  124. 1. [+751, -24] And Kang Seung Yoon will cry yet again today. lol! Is that kid still in YG's basement?? Maybe he escaped with the Kim girl from the pink punk group and Lee Michelle jk jk!.

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  125. lol....you have to be kidding me, it's not that serious so calm down and yes i did read comment saying she would fail not exactly in those words but that was the point if people are asking what is she gonna rely on without any talent then what the hell are they saying??? (in other words she will fail without her group or talent)read the comments and i can say whatever the hell i want to say with no explanation to NO ONE
    Internet Tip: don't take it to personal

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  126. and another thing obviously 18 other people thinks it holds merit....i will not be replying so if you want to debate this i suggest you relive this moment over again in you little brain and pop a Xanax while your at it because you really need it

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  127. Tbh, CL is the best part of 2NE1... she really stands out.

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  128. baby j really? lol. girl who needed a rookie rapper to write her raps.

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  129. It looks like you're the one who's taking things personal and getting upset. I haven't read any saying that, I think you're just upset people are saying her talent isn't as strong as people are saying it is. No one is saying you can't say what you want, calm down. There's some seats there if you need to take one. But you can't comment on the internet and expect people not to have responses. I would advise for you to not take things personally because you seem very upset right now considering you commented twice, one it which you take jabs at me when I haven't said anything about you having a "little brain" or need drugs.Though you can have a chill pill And if getting likes on a comment on a site where someone degrading someone else can get 18 likes and more is what you base your merit off of then so be it. But that doesn't change anything. Saying Kpop is about visuals doesn't change the fact her singing is lacking, and no one here is saying she's going to fail because she suck. You're obviously taking things anally.

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  130. She is indeed overrated, but seeing the bright side, she's definitely something different from other soloists. I think that all her success will depend of the song, but her image and charisma will help her a lot. I admire the way she presents herself as a powerful and strong woman. It's hard to see a woman like her in kpop. To be honest i think that all the aegyo stuff that girl groups do is degrading. Nice to see women like her, or Kahi. They are the main reason why i like kpop so much ^^

    ^PD: sorry for my bad english, isn't my 1st language ^^

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  131. she is going to be a badass rapper

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  132. SHE CAN, but their not just that popular like 2NE1, that's the problem..

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  133. Idol rappers aren't rappers....

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  134. The people who think CL is a good rapper, are the same people who think YG is a legit Hiphop/R&B company....

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  135. whenever k-netizens say something positive, I-netizens have to hate.

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  136. I think she is good at rapping and is also a good performer. I don't agree she is overrated. What she has that maybe other kpop artists lack is charisma ( G.D and her have plenty)

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  137. people here.... obviously K-netizens disagree with you

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  138. Hey don't generalize here that people are saying her talent isn't as strong as people are saying it is.....you should say some people. Not everyone think the same way you do.

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  139. lmao why you sounds so mad? so anyone who shades CL does that because they're a fan of snsd? makes sense.

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  140. LOL this comment made my day X))

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  141. I don't agree with you, but I respect your opinion. However, I don't get when you are saying that she is not a performer only an entertainer.

    I took the liberty and looked up the definition of what a performer is.

    Performer: an entertainer who performs a dramatic or musical work for an audience.

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  142. she is not ugly, she might be as pretty as other female idols that doesn't mean she is ugly. I bet she looks way better that those k-netizens.

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  143. no you are embarrasing because your sentence didn't made sence from a logical pov, if you have to re write your comment and explain what you were trying to say is because your statement was dumb period.

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  144. didn't made sence........lmao you don't MAKE SENSE right now so check your grammar before you try to tell me anything lol

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  145. WaitingtobethumbeddownMay 15, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    A performer is someone who uses their skills TO entertain.

    CL just entertains. As I said, if I were to close my eyes and listen to her live I could not handle it because she is not a performer, merely someone who entertains.

    Adele is a performer. Beyonce is a performer. CL is an entertainer. She catches the eye, but nothing more.

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  146. haven't you heard her rapping??

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  147. I think her charisma makes people over-hype her actual talent, which in turn makes her overrated because she can not do everything people say she can at a level they say she can.

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  148. So are you implying CL never does sexually suggestive dance moves, or wears revealing clothing? She's definitely not the only female idol that presents this type of image, but she is no different from many other females idols that basically do the exact same thing as her, sometimes to a lesser degree. But they get called sluts with no morals while CL gets a pass as being unique and empowering. Really tho??

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  149. I didn't generalize though. People are saying her talent isn't as strong as people claim.

    I did not say ALL, I did not even say MOST. I said people. That is not a generalization. It's stating a fact. People here are saying that. If you want to get on me for "generalizations" get on pink lemons as well because she used the term people as well without putting "some" in front of it.

    She can, and I can express my opinion on her opinion. Her telling me I have a little brain and should take drugs is not very nice. But you don't say anything to her? Stop being a hypocrite.

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  150. lol...i can say what i want you wanted me to reply so i did, and since kindness didn't work yes i threw jabs at you...so what you were asking for it i told you i didn't want to debate this and you took it as me shying away from my comment. i gave an explanation you were not satisfied so your obviously looking for a fight you obviously hate CL good for you i just don't understand why you are wasting your time trying to debate about her

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  151. ......I'm talking about people on Netizenbuzz though.

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  152. she is not being a hypocrite she can obviously spot a instigator

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  153. No, you threw jabs because you're immature and can't handle someone responding to your comment. This stopped being about CL after my first comment, this not even discussing her anymore. You gave me an explanation and I pointed out why it was wrong because that wasn't what was happening, and YOU got upset. I don't hate CL, I haven't said anything about her to you other than her singing skills are lacking. So please stop acting like I'm "debating her". I'm not. You obviously are 14, at least I hope you are because you aren't conducting yourself in a manner that says otherwise.

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  154. Finally, k-netizens comment something nice about mah queen <3

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  155. lol...it's just the internet calm yourself i can handle it, but you on the other hand can't since obviously if someone does not have the same opinion as you, there is a problem your overly opinionated, and how old are you since your taking this sooo personal. "This stopped being about CL after my first comment, this not even discussing her anymore."

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  156. She is though. You just get upset easily and obviously that makes you call people names or attack them. If she can let that slide, she is a hypocrite.

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  157. Ikr without any of them it wont be 2ne1 like now .Hellooo reality check

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  158. WonderfulZingMinMay 15, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    and people hate on other idols and praise CL when she is doing the exact same thing. smh.

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  159. But it isn't about opinions. It's about something that's actually happening. My opinion isn't that people aren't saying she will fail because her talent, that's what's actually happening. People aren't saying that. So it has nothing to do with opinions but me pointing out where you explanation was flawed. You obviously can't handle it because you keep turning it into an "opinion debate" or a "debate about CL" When it's not.


    I see this is hitting you hard, so you don't have to respond anymore really. I'd hate for your day to be messed up because you're upset and unable to understand the situation.

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  160. Well if people are gonna label her one of the superior singers in kpop among other female idols, then of course people are going to argue against it because it's simply not true. There are plenty of idols that vocally put her to shame.

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  161. Is visuals really that important? K-nets and their beauty standards, smh. CL is charming and she's pretty in 'some' angles . lol
    She's talented, so I know she'll do good.

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  162. how dare that k-netiz said "Honestly, judging on just music alone, I can imagine a 2NE1 without Sandara but I could never imagine a 2NE1 without CL"

    2ne1 without dara/bom/minzt/CL is not 2NE1

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  163. lol...ok goldfish i'm mad, it's not a opinion or a debate , and i'm unable to understand the situation are you done now???

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  164. 10. [+269, -22] Honestly, judging on just music alone, I can imagine a 2NE1 without Sandara but I could never imagine a 2NE1 without CL ===> WTF???

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  165. Whatever she brings I hope Jeremy Scott isn't coming along for the ride.

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  166. She dresses herself better than he ever has

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  167. Well, she's not a plastic monster. So, yeah.

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  168. billiondollarbabeMay 15, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    I'm blackjack and I love CL's style but this one is soo scary><

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  169. Funny that you mention Tasha, considering that she specifically picked CL as the best female idol rapper, as well as Tiger.

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  170. Visuals are important, but you can clearly see that they're willing to pass on it for her ability to perform on stage.

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  171. i feel like he's just putting this kind of stuff on 2NE1 because he can't get away with it on the actual runway but hardcore fans will still buy it anyway

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  172. who are to say that she is not a performer? that's your opinion....at least say it's what you think and don't make it seem like it's a fact.

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  173. There are not too many blackjacks here? I wonder what people's fandom are in here?

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  174. Kush was never fired. He left on good terms.

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  175. I agree, CL and 2NE1 are overhyped. As a group their skills aren't bad, but they are nowhere near exceptional.

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  176. ikr... i've been waiting him foreveeeeer TT

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  177. he did Lee Hi's intro tho..

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  178. how do you know that I'm not worried ? :)) I like them as entertainers/dancers,never defend their singing/rapping ;)

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  179. btw CL going solo=Taec going solo ~~ at least JYP didn't let this shit happen while YG is pushing CL in everyone's face

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  180. and you know what,me being a fan of 2pm doesn't make CL any better.get over it

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  181. watch some of the variety shows that show random passengers on street,majority of them are prettier than CL

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  182. YG has brainwashed Koreans.is GD a fashionista? he's not,he wears terrible clothes but people call him "unique"

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  183. Limit at InfinityMay 16, 2013 at 3:43 AM

    nobody think YG is an R&B company tho

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  184. Lady Gaga is a shitty composer with a thin voice. Her "weird" concepts are ripped off from Madonna and Bowie and others (her choreographer admitted to this in an interview and was fired for it). Her hit songs were composed by a plagiarist, who is now being sued in Chicago court over this. Her fans are complete sheep and idiots.

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  185. That can be said about everybody though. So, no need to pick on CL for something that is universal.

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