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Wednesday, May 15, 2013

Netizens boycott 'Yes', 'Yes' responds by taking down Hyosung's photos from homepage

Reader request.

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Random comments translated from 'Yes' Facebook page:

"There's a store in my neighborhood for the brand that Hyosung-ssi models for. Too bad because I believe their sales will go way down. How can you use a bug as a model? Although this puts the company in quite the predicament, I refuse to buy from a company that uses an Ilbe user as their model. This might lead to a boycott. Please cancel Jun Hyosung's contract."

"Please terminate your contract with Jun Hyosung, an Ilbe user. It's a misogynistic trash site. I refuse to be a customer to a company who contracts with a celebrity who uses such derogatory terms."

"I will be boycotting this lingerie brand for using an Ilbe user as their model."

Hyosung's photos taken down

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247 comments:

  1. shit just got real

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  2. this is getting ridiculous.

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  3. Hyosung helped skyrocket Yes sales to now tarnishing the brand's name. Hilarious.

    Stupidity ruins you.

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  4. I really doubt she's an Ilbe user... I feel bad for her tbh

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  5. :( find strength my baby hamster <3

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  6. I am speechless and saddened by how quickly everything seems to be crumbling around her. I'm not a huge fan of secret, but I do like Hyosung and hope she find strength in all of this :c.

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  7. Oh dang, they might actually drop Hyosung if this Ilbe situation drags on 0_o

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  8. one word changed everything for this poor girl. i really hope she can find a way to bounce back from it.

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  9. She may be ignorant but seriously, do they really think she is an Ilbe member?

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  10. but she just misspoke that shouldn't kill your career. there are people who've said horrible and done much worse shit and can still keep getting their coins in

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  11. Poor Hyosung. She's going to be completely villanized for this until netizens latch on to something else. If anything, let this be a lesson for anyone not to use terms that they just find on the Internet without knowing the connotation behind it.

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  12. Yeah like bullying and man-slaughter. What a t-error.

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  13. KOREANS (some) are SCARY AS FUCK! DONT MAKE THEM YOUR ENEMY or else you're going DOWN.

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  14. No second chances in south korea!!

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  15. The hell, just because she used a word she is accused as an ilbe?! I highly doubt that she would be that stupid to associate herself with that kind community before debut...

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  16. Pretty sad considering how she pushed sales up for them. I just want this to blow over already...

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  17. Shit is hitting the fan.
    Something bigger is comming I bet.

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  18. This is ridiculous. Just because she used that word, doesn't mean she is an ilbe user.

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  19. This is really stupid and over dramatic...

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  20. Yeah, if they are sure that she is an ilbe...they should atleast have proof. They shouldn't accuse someone to be an ilbe, just because they use a word in that connotation.

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  21. wow you can see directly see netizens in action with this controversy. korean netizens have such a strong influence in the coutcome of things.. the reason this site exists.

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  22. We have an Arabic saying that says "cut my neck but don't cut my pay." Honestly, this is the girls earnings and profit this is her job! You can trash talk her but don't get her fired

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  23. But.. Boobs ;_;

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  24. this is beyond ridiculous

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  25. I don't like this.
    I don't like this at all.
    She's a very nice girl, only a bit of an airhead.

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  26. it was never even confirmed that hyosung really was an ilbe user :< i hope she can work her way back up somehow...

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  27. Karma is doing a good job

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  28. Wow. This is cray.

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  29. Exactly! This is why NB is interesting.
    Not because we're thirsty Koreaboos.

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  30. They can't get her fired, just because of her misuse of a word....that would be ridiculous.

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  31. This fucking sucks for her.

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  32. What's going to happen to the rest of the Secret members? :(

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  33. Yea false accusations are ignorant.

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  34. bring t-ara here? how cute you are

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  35. Karma? What did she do, lol?

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  36. ilbe is serious for korean people.
    maybe like stupid organization who support NAZI or smth stupid. /analogy/

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  37. Depends on her contract with "Yes" actually, Majority of the endorsement contracts come with a clause that gives the brand rights to remove her from the position of an endorser should they feel that it will damage/bring harm to the brand image.

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  38. The only way is...to go to the army! Poor girl, in all honesty, if she's indeed just misinformed and not part of the propaganda site.

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  39. Like, I get that this is a problem, but I personally wouldn't boycott the brand if I liked it...


    Although I guess I understand the sentiment. They don't want to enable her career.

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  40. I feel bad for them. Goes to show you need to watch what you say, because your popularity can change just as fast.

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  41. adding to what Green said, if it's really detrimental to the company's image, that can be a reason for cancellation.

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  42. I wanted to say the pictures are NICE, but you said it way better, LOL.

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  43. maybe hyosung should hold press conference asap

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  44. But according to some [koreans] the word she used are usually used by ilbe users alone... So yeah, the lesser of two evils is she is that dumb nt to know.

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  45. Do these people even purchase their stuff to even say, "I will be boycotting this lingerie brand for using an Ilbe user as their model."?

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  46. This whole witch hunt is disgusting. At this rate Korea will soon be burning women at the stake.

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  47. next thing we know ilbe users are bulk-buying Yes

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  48. I know, that's what makes this so ridiculous. Fair enough if netizens want to attack those who are proven of wrongdoing, but I'm sick of them going after people based off gossip and exaggeration.

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  49. this shit is more then t-ara we are talking about politic not some fack rumor bulling scandal

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  50. wow now we are not talking about some k-netizen buzz shit they moved to
    facebook this really serious

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  51. Poor Hyosung... It gets worse and worse each and every single day.

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  52. haters everywhere bringing people down just because of allegations.

    What has this world come to?

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  53. Goodgod.... s just got real. I feel so sorry for her.. ;A;

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  54. I mean thinking from a business perspective, if the majority of the public is giving such negative feedback, you'd be smart to act upon their replies fast if you don't want to lost too much money and consumers.


    Even though kind of irrelevant, it's kind of like the T-ara situation when they basically lost their advertisement/model contracts within weeks.


    Regardless of the situation, if the public says no, you follow instead of risking losing your business as a whole.

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  55. subduedobsessionMay 15, 2013 at 10:47 PM

    If she honestly was an Ilbe user then I'd get it. Consumers have every right to choose what they support and don't based on what they believe.


    The issue I have is that I can't see how netizens think that she's an Ilbe user. She made an idiotic statement, but stupidity is no reason to try to cut off her income. It just comes off as a careless mistake. If she were really an ilbe member and understood the connotations of the word, there's no way she would have used it in a public broadcast.

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  56. Ilbe is notorious for their misogyny and lingerie cater to women. That's good enough reason for the company to cancel her contract even if she's a member or not. Her image is already in trouble which will influence the brand

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  57. Just being honest

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  58. What is koreaboos? I see it all the time..

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  59. well this escalated quickly o.o
    what i don't get is if the word she said was really that bad, then how the hell did the editors of the show miss it? i think they're also at fault for letting it air on television if it's that terrible.

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  60. Omg this is getting serious then,
    But I think she's not an ilbe user
    Poor girl

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  61. I wish I owned a clothing company I'd let her wear my stuff.

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  62. they said 'yes' to the netizens.

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  63. "Please terminate your contract with Jun Hyosung, an Ilbe user. It's
    a misogynistic trash site. I refuse to be a customer to a company who
    contracts with a celebrity who uses such derogatory terms."


    Yes, because Hyosung - a member of a female idol group and a model for an underwear brand - is a member of a misogynistic trash site. That totally makes sense.

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  64. they'll never let this go now... hyosung's truly fucked.

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  65. Or become popular in america

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  66. sadly, this will probably follow hyosung forever. i hope im only over exaggerating but TS and Hyosung should really get on this shit quick.

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  67. Oh man, I really hope something is done about this. I know she gave an apology, but I bet K-netz thought it was bullshit.


    Besides, no one really knows if she's an actual Ilbe user. Where is the proof? She used a word ignorantly, but that's about it. I really hope this thing gets cleared up soon.


    If she's an actual Ilbe user, then so be it. If she's not, I doubt people are gonna believe that is still give her and possibly the rest of Secret shit for it. I feel bad for them, especially Hyosung. =/

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  68. billiondollarbabeMay 15, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    huh! that's so very bad>____>

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  69. People who worship Korean stuff without even knowing the culture that well and speak broken korean.

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  70. This is exactly what happened to T-ara. Poor girl. I hope she is able to make it through all the hate like them. She misused a word. It was exactly that, a mistake. She apologized already. Why do this to her? It's such a shame. It's stuff like this that keeps pushing me further away from kpop music...

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  71. Why are they so harsh on her? :( She's a human too and people make mistakes...

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  72. karma is a bitch to the fans who made fun of t-ara

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  73. it was never even confirmed that t-ara supposedly bullied hwayoung but you know crazy some netizens are

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  74. How can they say with SO much conviction that she's an Ilbe user? There is NO proof except for her misuse of ONE word. I honestly fail to understand how this whole witchhunt came about. And yes, I have been reading a whole lot about the whole "democratization" and Ilber users.

    How can netizens be so stupid to think that she's even associated with them? AND ask companies to cancel her contract and to blur her face out of shows? Now I'm just fuckin' furious. They should all be worried for Hyosung's safety if they had half a brain... but no, they're going around hating on her.

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  75. when faking themselves as Koreans.

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  76. I guess its time to stop all of her activity and reflect her slip word.
    At this point I would say that knetizens just too much.

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  77. oh my goodness, it's not like she ran over someone or did drugs or disobeyed the law! this is too much tbh, i feel so bad for her :(

    hyosung fighting!!!

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  78. mate, lets not drag our girls here. They had have enough and they are starting to see little light now. we, as a fan of them should be only concerned about their happiness and well-being but not about others..

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  79. on a strip club?

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  80. Hyosung's not even confirmed to be an ilbe user. How pathetic, I bet there is a person there that is not a regular buyer but commented because it is the hot issue right. in short SAWSAWERO'T SAWSAWERA(Atleast no one will understand this unless your from the Philippines)

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  81. I'be never heard about that considering that I'm a big Secrettime.

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  82. Just shut up Suman Gurung! You should go back to Himalayas

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  83. Did you just seriously compare the misuse of a word to homicide? LOL.

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  84. yet oppars who have done all of the above are happily making money from endrosments and fangirls

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  85. You do know that ilbe members are females too. Just saying.

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  86. Maybe the fortune tellers were a bit wrong on Hyosung. She is not having a scandal with top actor, but yes, she will face a big scandal. http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.sg/2013/02/fortune-tellers-predict-hyosung-to-be.html

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  87. God this is sickening. Bash her all you want but don't take her job and earnings away from her by demanding such things! ):

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  88. well we already saw this before right. One word then downfall. 9 months ago it's "determination" that lead to one group's downfall. well since their public figures they should really think before saying something. Cause once you already did, you can never take it back. W

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  89. ironically I bet most of the people boycotting didn't buy their products anyway.

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  90. Oh yeah, I still remembered that. Poor Hyosung :(

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  91. We don't even know who are those that made fun of T-ara. We can never can tell, those guys who dissed T-ara are the same ones dissing Secret.

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  92. What hyosung said is now out of her hands, now it is a political issue. Conservative political groups in Korea are trying to make use of hyosung's 'mistake'. Pyon Hee Jae, a conservative writer, asserted that it is only pro-North Korea traitors who attack hyosung and demanded every conservative netizens stand for hyosung.

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  93. You should try to understand why her misuse of one word equates to Ilbe user. She used a version of 'democratization' which a normal netizen will not use and it is only used by Ilbe users. The version she used is grammatically incorrect which is why most people don't use it.

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  94. Honestly, I don't think intelligence can be measured by the words one knows. She could be smart and still incorrectly use a word. I think this whole scandal has been blown out of epic proportions.

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  95. Yes besides I think Hyosung herself will be too busy to lurking on comm. site like Ilbe,

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  96. Move as Victoria's Secret's (Br)Angel lol

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  97. the twitter thing they did is cyber bullying though but everything else is rly speculation.

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  98. Legends of Iljins, yes.

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  99. Oh but they DID bully her on Twitter days before the bullying news came out; even they admitted it.

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  100. LINKeu please ...

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  101. The amount of misunderstanding? Maybe. The impact? Secret might get worst. The way things are now, the group is hopeless, especially if everyday those Ilbe users will insist their claim of Hyosung as their general -.-

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  102. It's a radio broadcast I guess?

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  103. You can move your eyes here.


    Only cleavage though, lol

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  104. You know being a leftist is something that involves crime and law. It's just that freedom of speech is also valued in Korea as it is a republic. So ignorance is never an excuse to law. Whether she used it ignorantly or with full knowledge, the fact that she used the word confidently, in a negative context, the people's reaction can't be helped but be negative as well.

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  105. T-ara haters got another prey

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  106. Not next thing.

    http://www.ilbe.com/index.php?_filter=search&mid=ilbe&search_target=title_content&search_keyword=%EC%98%88%EC%8A%A4&document_srl=1226538245

    http://www.ilbe.com/index.php?_filter=search&mid=ilbe&search_target=title_content&search_keyword=%ED%8C%AC%ED%8B%B0&document_srl=1227881120

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  107. Nah I wasn't judging--it's you who is judging me was judging you now, anyway. I was HELPING you.

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  108. its not like those people would have bought the lingerie anyways... they say boycott without even planning to buy it in the first place

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  109. when did i even judge you?? you the one replied to me first and the fact you focusing on people mistake it’s odd since you defend you bias and telling people it was a mistake anywhere you opinion doesn’t concern me i will be a gentleman and thank you anyway for helping me

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  110. 1. them ugly bishes don't even shop at 'Yes'
    2. a lot of korean visit ilbe, does that mean they're part of ilbe trash too?
    3. they know Hyosung isn't an ilbe member, they just want to see an idol go down in flames.

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  111. Like idols like fans; the apple never falls far from the tree. Okay, you're welcome, girl and bye

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  112. wtf they actually did OTL

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  113. Atleast you got my point. That's why I find your comment to lola amalia offensive. Just because she typed fake as fack :p

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  114. i think ilbe users should hack the website and put Hyosung's photo back up. that would be fcking awesome.

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  115. Hypocrites. Tbh. Yeah, yeah she said something stupid and thoughtless, but there are articles now that point out that there are a lot more IIbe people on Nate/Naver. If everyone knew that lingo, it would not be a stretch to see how she picked up the word.

    http://www.koreabang.com/2012/features/netizen-explains-roots-of-korean-conservative-online-community.html
    This site pretty much explains the history of IIbe.

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  116. People make mistakes, but that's the price you pay when you become a public figure. Always be mindful of what you say.

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  117. I know. Nah she did that kind of thing a lot anyway. Critics sometimes help to be better; she can't accept my critics well.... I actually don't care

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  118. The thing is that netizens are such a tiny minority of the public. Most people don't care about this stuff and YES taking the ads down just to pander to such a tiny minority really is short-sighted.

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  119. I fckin never heard of this word until the Secret article. I guess that makes us Ilbes LMAO! -_-; *sarcasm* I thought when the article came out it was a joke, people have to get over themselves. What would happen if an Idol stepped on a fans foot by accident? I can't even imagine.

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  120. ikr? Hyosung isn't thin enough as well

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  121. i know seriously it was clear she was just being ignorant, is not liek she killed someone but whatever

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  122. Exactly what I'm thinking. Korean companies are such pussies sometimes letting random trolls on the internet push them around.

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  123. I'll say it again... for fuck's sake korea -_- companies need to stand up to these people and not take her adds down OR anyone's (especially if it's this ridicilous ''scandal'' ''

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  124. unnie chungju style?

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  125. I guess those hypocrite netz must have been visiting Ilbe because they learned of the word! None of us here knew that word til now lol.

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  126. can you tell me the definition of 'Ilbe user'? I don't get it.

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  127. I'm not Korean so I cannot pretend to understand the full significance of the word she used, but we must remember that she used *one* word exactly *one* time, and it's not fair to jump to conclusions from that alone. I'm not defending her, but for all we know she isn't a member of this forum and only heard the word somewhere and thought she would sound cool/edgy. That still makes her foolish, but it doesn't mean she's an ilbe user.

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  128. She's being very sarcastic.

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  129. this hunt has become fucking ridiculous....hyosung might as well move to another country at this rate......


    .......based on the fact whether she may or may not have misunderstood the context of a single word. Is it fair to take away her livelihood and persecute her based on such flimsy circumstantial evidence?

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  130. i know, one member posted a tweet about her and the others happened to agree. that's not bullying, its a conflict which they weren't afraid to share with the fans, hwayoung must have pissed all of them off for a reason, even though we would never find out exactly what that reason is.

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  131. You know, trying to find more supports and supporters for their t-train lmao

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  132. My biases already went through this kind of term and they are okay now so......

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  133. she's not an ilbe user.

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  134. she was foretold to be involved in a scandal with an actor. well, maybe the fortuneteller was right with the half part.

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  135. poor hyosung..this one word facked up her whole life in like 1 minute. im sure she didnt mean it that way ..i can see if she used it more than once and accidentally gave out clues that she was a user.

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  136. Do they really think she's an ilbe user though? Beacause I seriously doubt so. Does she have to be one of them just because she used that word... idk man she probably just got a brain fart and that's how her words came out

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  137. "Fans of k-pop need to stick together and oppose netizens" Laughing really hard. Do you plan on starting a revolution? lol

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  138. Damn, she might be getting the T-ARA treatment...by the look of things. I think the fortune teller was right, but in a wrong way. They might either need to use Ga In again, or a different model in general...

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  139. It's not that she's unaware of her mistake, it's just a typo error. This is internet not Harvard ;)

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  140. Maybe because case like this, some products' advertisement here in my country didn't fully used public figure *the well known one*. They chose someone that general public doesn't know/rarely know. Because take down a advertisement can be a financial loss

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  141. Same reason as why netizens always bring up T-ARA in every article. The first post bout Hyosung actually said 'All aboard the T-ARA train' when no one thought the same would happen to her, yet .___.

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  142. It's because Koreans actually mean what they say. In the west people will complain but still buy the product. In Korea they will actually not buy it.

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  143. But there's really nothing TS or Hyosung can do at this point, netizens & ilbe members will ride this out to the end, so damage control is pretty much out the window. All they can do sit back, continue to promote & hope for this to blow over soon

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  144. As a queen, suggesting we hate Hyosung just because people hate T-ara is retarded as shit. Don't be a hypocrite, don't become the same type of hater that we suffer in our fandom. If we can't stay above the trashtalk, then are we really better than all the antis that plague T-ara's threads?

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  145. This is the reason Kpop is so narrow minded. You post rational thoughts and get shut up as a reply. Have fun surfing NB Sir. Over and Out!!

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  146. I know. That's why I didn't just say: "Hyosung - a woman - is a member of a misogynistic trash site".

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  147. Witch hunt?
    Boycotting a celebrity is hardly a witch hunt. You need to develop a sense of proportion.

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  148. I don't think anyone is denying the fact that Korean netizens (or otherwise) have a right to a negative reaction to the situation. I think that what the OP is trying to say, and my personal view point as well, is that the accusations are unjust and rather stupid.

    For all the people accusing Hyosung of being unintelligent, they are so quick to assume she couldn't have possibly seen the word anywhere else on the internet. Using their own logic...how did the netizens know of this word to begin with? Are they ILBE users as well for knowing it's an ILBE slang term and the definition? I mean the entire thought process is completely illogical.

    If these people could simply take a step back from the situation, they'd come to the conclusion that if she were ILBE she would never have risked her career and Secret's over this.



    According to the comments, no one at her age is dumb enough not to know the meaning of the word. So if she were "intelligent" enough to know the context and connotations of the word while being apart of that community, then she's suddenly "stupid" enough to use it in public after being in the spotlight for years? I just don't buy that.

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  149. " saying romanize Korean"
    wtf doesn't even make sense. then korean people should stop writing foreign words in hangul too?? i see it all the time on variety shows when someone speaks english they write it in hangul like "i love you", "how are you", "nice to meet you" etc. (which i find cute btw.)

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  150. So then how did all these korean netizens know this word and the context? Are they ILBE, too? Honestly...the logic...it's just so flawed.


    She could have seen it used anywhere. In a discussion between users on the net, or an article, or overheard someone speaking about politics. The idea that she could ONLY KNOW THIS WORD from that community is just a far too convenient argument.

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  151. Ahh... This so sad...

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  152. I feel the same way. This was taken way out of context.

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  153. The point is that Hyosung used the term in a negative manner. In a manner that only leftist at Ilbe are using~

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  154. Of course the Koreans know what democratize means cause it was taught to them. But the point is only Hyosung used that word in a manner the Ilbe users use it. That's why they're calling her as an Ilbe. Saying that she doesn't know it's a word or meaning of the word is how they can call her as "stupid."

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  155. You are completely missing the point. Smh...

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  156. k-netizen a fucking scary..they can ruin someone life just like that..

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  157. sure... but these people know that using that word in that context is not acceptable. whereas she thought using that word in that context is acceptable. why? either she is ignorant or she learned it from a place where that context is acceptable. i guess for most people, it is easier to believe the worst.

    as i said above, she could just be ignorant. but the context originated from people who use it to ridicule the the people's fight for democracy. perhaps she didn't know. but too bad for her, this is very important to koreans.


    so i get why the koreans are angry but i don't agree with the backlash that she's been receiving. and urghhhh... some people are just riding on the bandwagon

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  158. "so i get why the koreans are angry but i don't agree with the backlash
    that she's been receiving. and urghhhh... some people are just riding on
    the bandwagon"


    Exactly. That's my thoughts as well.

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  159. You have a point here unfortunately. So netizens are dumb to unconfirmed lies/truth while Hyosung said something out of ignorance.

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  160. I feel really bad for Hyosung, I really thin she just brain farted :/

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  161. I think it's only because she actually said that phrase out loud. Meaning, even though netizens or Koreans in general who aren't ILBE users, know this phrase from ILBE - it's a completely different story if one chooses to say it out loud like a ILBE user would, etc.


    Kind of like how many in the US may know symbols/phrases of Neo-Nazi/KKK/Stormfront lingo, but no one would have the audacity to actually use it when speaking unless they're a member of that hate group.


    Either way, hope Hyosung makes it through this in one piece. Anger/outrage is understandable in this case, but the witchhunt/boycotts are so unnecessary...ugh, Hyo seems way too sensitive when it comes to online comments too - hope someone takes away her laptop/comp for a while.

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  162. true, for me most of america's ads have normal people in it

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  163. yea, the way she said it is the way ilbes say it
    its like how people in the ghetto say the same things as normal ppl but in different slang

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  164. here is a copy and paste

    "thewanderer • 2 hours ago

    For those of you who doesn't quiet get what ilbe is... It's the website like "trashy atmosphere of 4chan + extreme delusional political right wingers"............... One of the major problem is that they are distorting a modern history which is.. They even consider "5.18 Gwangju Massacre" as a just riot suppression... Even when all normal people in Korea think it was "Democratic Movement" against military government dictator Jun Doo Hwan.. And that caused huge massacre which is more than 4000 innocent people got killed by military force.. It was bloodbath, and now ilbe-users are still worshipping him and give nickname to this mass-murder dictator "Jun-TTanks:전땅크" meaning it was justified thing to trample innocent civilian with tanks.. So that's why people from Gwangju are extremely sensitive about delusional right wingers in Korea..

    See more information about that incident:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    I'm not sure she actually knew that expression term "democratize:민주화" is being used by ilbe-users in a such a negative way which is very wrong.. Term "democracy:민주주의" should be good meaning for common sense, but ilbe-users are being sarcastic to make it in a bad meaning term.. now "democratize someone or something:민주화시키다" with "-tize:시키다" or "-tized : 민주화되었다" became a symbol of unique expression term that only ilbe uses... It is very hard to believe whether she uses ilbe since they have extremely rough atmosphere.. but the way she talked is hard to ignore as a mistake, because it just sounds exactly like ilbe user which most of people don't say like that... This is why this whole thing is being huge controversy.. I hope you guys understand the situation thoroughly..."

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  165. well its not like people here try to understand the situation anyway

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  166. ?? an idol stepping on a fan's foot would be completely ignored
    however, an idol using a word in the context ilbes use it is a bigger deal.

    most people know the word, but the way she said it is the main point here.

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  167. here ill copy and paste for you like how other ppl have been doing

    "thewanderer • 2 hours ago

    For those of you who doesn't quiet get what ilbe is... It's the website like "trashy atmosphere of 4chan + extreme delusional political right wingers"............... One of the major problem is that they are distorting a modern history which is.. They even consider "5.18 Gwangju Massacre" as a just riot suppression... Even when all normal people in Korea think it was "Democratic Movement" against military government dictator Jun Doo Hwan.. And that caused huge massacre which is more than 4000 innocent people got killed by military force.. It was bloodbath, and now ilbe-users are still worshipping him and give nickname to this mass-murder dictator "Jun-TTanks:전땅크" meaning it was justified thing to trample innocent civilian with tanks.. So that's why people from Gwangju are extremely sensitive about delusional right wingers in Korea..

    See more information about that incident:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    I'm not sure she actually knew that expression term "democratize:민주화" is being used by ilbe-users in a such a negative way which is very wrong.. Term "democracy:민주주의" should be good meaning for common sense, but ilbe-users are being sarcastic to make it in a bad meaning term.. now "democratize someone or something:민주화시키다" with "-tize:시키다" or "-tized : 민주화되었다" became a symbol of unique expression term that only ilbe uses... It is very hard to believe whether she uses ilbe since they have extremely rough atmosphere.. but the way she talked is hard to ignore as a mistake, because it just sounds exactly like ilbe user which most of people don't say like that... This is why this whole thing is being huge controversy.. I hope you guys understand the situation thoroughly..."

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  168. isnt that why people hate chris brown, one direction, taylor swift, justin bieber, etc so much in america?

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  169. sigh... i shall copy and paste

    "thewanderer • 2 hours ago

    For those of you who doesn't quiet get what ilbe is... It's the website like "trashy atmosphere of 4chan + extreme delusional political right wingers"............... One of the major problem is that they are distorting a modern history which is.. They even consider "5.18 Gwangju Massacre" as a just riot suppression... Even when all normal people in Korea think it was "Democratic Movement" against military government dictator Jun Doo Hwan.. And that caused huge massacre which is more than 4000 innocent people got killed by military force.. It was bloodbath, and now ilbe-users are still worshipping him and give nickname to this mass-murder dictator "Jun-TTanks:전땅크" meaning it was justified thing to trample innocent civilian with tanks.. So that's why people from Gwangju are extremely sensitive about delusional right wingers in Korea..

    See more information about that incident:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    I'm not sure she actually knew that expression term "democratize:민주화" is being used by ilbe-users in a such a negative way which is very wrong.. Term "democracy:민주주의" should be good meaning for common sense, but ilbe-users are being sarcastic to make it in a bad meaning term.. now "democratize someone or something:민주화시키다" with "-tize:시키다" or "-tized : 민주화되었다" became a symbol of unique expression term that only ilbe uses... It is very hard to believe whether she uses ilbe since they have extremely rough atmosphere.. but the way she talked is hard to ignore as a mistake, because it just sounds exactly like ilbe user which most of people don't say like that... This is why this whole thing is being huge controversy.. I hope you guys understand the situation thoroughly..."

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  170. thank you for realizing its not all of korea...
    too many ppl making judgements here

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  171. i dont think shes an ilbe, but i do pity her
    dont worry, people like baek jiyoung, kang ho dong, and more were able to jump back from their scandals (and are very successful). so fans shouldnt lose hope.

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  172. The American artists is an extreme example. Too much liberties they have. Overall, I think Korean artists are pretty well behaved compared to the west

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  173. Whuuut? Lol? So you think I'm a fan of Secret? lmao! Because MY idols clearly never got their albums bought by the Ilbes. Lol you got it so damn wrong. It's so funny XD

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  174. Lol it wasn't a typo, she does that a lot. I was having a hard time whenever I read her replies tbh ~0~ Doesn't mean to be rude :3 keh.

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  175. That's completely different. Those shows translate the words so people can understand. Koreaboos write a whole phrases, sometimes even paragraph on FB in complete romanize hanguls for no freaking reason. It's so wannabe.

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  176. Hhhhh when did I see you a secretime or any fucking time and my girls are n° 7 in digital sell get you facts strict sorry we don’t manipulate chart by haring a hacker or bulk baying cd and yet we are in top 10 and it’ a subunit not even the hall a group when people like you keep hating; my girls keep growing and became more and more successful world wild : new American single CB & TI , japans new subunit

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  177. Gosh. It's either you're so dumb or ... idk o_o

    You clearly said " While you idol has been hacking chart
    and bulk baying by ilbes . i think karma pay off" (well with grammatical error of course)
    You clearly referred to Secret. Then you're denying it now keh.

    Ugh wait. 'world wild'? Ugh. they're wild, indeed.

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  178. What? I explained why she's labeled as stupid and such for her to be cut off at that endorsement. It's a matter of nationalism vs her mistake. That is something strong about Korea. Their culture is not something that can be healed through apologies.

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  179. You could have explained it in a nicer way dude.

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  180. this is just absurd

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  181. pyein is psycho. so don't worry.

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  182. it's not different in my opinion. why do they write "oh my god" or "good morning/night" in hangul if they can use the korean word for it?

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  183. Kpop fans who are involved with social media are netizens too. What are you talking about?

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  184. i think that's because the viewers are Korean and of course not all of them are good at english,so it's more easy for them so see those words in hangul,they get more easily what it means :)

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  185. Thanks for the links! Very informational.

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  186. This is just getting out of control now! Poor Hyosung :(

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