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Thursday, May 30, 2013

Kim Sang Hyuk under investigations for sexual harassment


Article: Kim Sang Hyuk "I was drunk and don't remember anything vs Lawsuit woman "I felt sexually harassed"

Source: Star News via Nate [2] [allkpop article here]

The woman reported to the police, "Kim Sang Hyuk suddenly grabbed my hand and said 'Let's go somewhere'. At that moment, I felt sexually embarrassed so I reported him immediately."

Kim Sang Hyuk: "I was drunk so I don't remember anything."

1. [+542, -88] Fu*k, I myself am a woman and I can tell that she's overreacting. How do you feel sexually embarrassed over him holding your hand.. ㅡㅡ;; To me, it just seems like she knows that he has a bad image so she's going all out after him to get some cash ㅡㅡ;;

2. [+375, -62] If she was able to report him on the spot, then it seems like he didn't use force... More like he just grabbed her hand. How is that sexual harassment? If he kept his grip on her, she wouldn't have been able to report it. The woman is weird... and if it happened in Nonhyun-dong, isn't that neighborhood notorious for prostitutes~~~

3. [+240, -16] A bit of a weird situation. It's kind of hard to scientifically prove what the woman is claiming since all he did was grab her hand. Witnesses or CCTV would be worth more to this case. As for feeling embarrassed, it's so subjective and different for everyone. I definitely feel that she's overreacting to just a hand grab and you can't consider this sexual harassment... It's never too late to hate on him after investigations and results have come out.

4. [+466, -44] I've never really liked Kim Sang Hyuk but if she really reported him just for holding her hand, she's just as...;;

5. [+434, -54] I've never liked him as well but I don't see how the woman could feel sexually embarrassed just with a hand grab. I guess I should be careful too.

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65 comments:

  1. In short, the woman wants money

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  2. Sexual harrassment is also about how the woman feels, no? From these statemnets alone, you can't really say she really is overreacting. There might be a backstory we don't know. :( I get tired of these 'I am a woman but...' and 'I am a fan but...' comments since it just seems like an excuse to contradict and hate on the parties involved. Not talking abt this in particular, but I also get tired of comments saying 'I am a fan of this person but I really think he's very ugly'. Just because you are a 'fan' doesn't give you the right to hate on sb like this. :(

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  3. Did they miss the part where he said "let's go somewhere" after he grabbed her hand? Someone grabbing you and essentially propositioning you is harassment. If someone did that to you in the street, you would be very uncomfortable... Gurl what????

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  4. When I read "suddenly grabbed my hand and said 'Let's go somewhere,'" I immediately thought of all those Korean dramas where the guy would come into a restaurant or something and grab a girl's hand before she has time to say anything and then drag her out to talk to her :p

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  5. oh gosh if someone did that to me id just take that as a joke or just punch him, this ajumma shut stfu

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  6. Hmm. Who released this article? If it was Kim Sanghyuk's agency then I think we can safely say he's downplaying what happened here.

    Had he been harassing her during conversation before propositioning her? Did he pull her as he took her hand? I'm trying to find a reason why he might be accused like this, because the situation as the article describes it is not one any woman would believably take to the police even if she wanted money. Let's say you're a woman who's morally bankrupt enough to file a false charge for money: you'd make something more substantial up, because even cases where a woman has actually been raped by a celebrity are often thrown out of court and the man is never convicted while the woman is slandered.

    I think there's something more here. It's just nonsensical otherwise. And before some idiot comes and accuses me of being a "feminazi", use your head and think it through like I have. If you have even one fully functioning brain cell you'll reach the same conclusion.

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  7. And then all of us Korean drama followers absolutely grow "Awwww" over it because it shows how manly / romantic he is. ROFL.
    Come back to the real situation *insert Kim Sang Hyuk's case* Not romantic at all!

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  8. thinking someone you're a fan of isn't attractive isn't in the same ballpark as thinking they're not sexually harassing people tho. There are plenty of people who love Drake but think he's not cute at all... and that's not "hating"

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  9. i have extreme mixed feelings about this. i understand she felt embarrassed but a simple no and walking away is just fine in my honest opinion, especially when you are in drunken company -- if it escalated from there than i understand but... it didn't. but at the same time, she did feel this way and i can't judge her or her feelings entirely without knowing exactly how she felt at that time.

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  10. Honestly thought it could have also turned into a serious offense, just the fact that he said that he was too drunk to remember means his ability to comprehend things is distorted/impaired. So it think it's unfair to say that she was very money hungry. How about we judge her when all the FACTS are completely presented, I feel like it's still missing some pcs,

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  11. This seems more like a pass/flirting than sexual harassment. I think her claim is too much, because all I can think of while reading this he flirted and she realized who he was and wanted more than just a dance/date.

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  12. Aggressive flirting ?

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  13. there's a thin line between flirting and harassment sometimes... I doubt she's trying to get a bunch of money from this, her story was pretty cut and dry.

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  14. Is it just me or are Korean women generally just submissive? If an idiot like him tried it here, he'd either be laughed at or get an ass whopping

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  15. She probably felt threatened that a strange man in the middle of nowhere just started grabbing her. It's understandable.

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  16. If he did that to a complete stranger in America he would be reported for sexual harassment as well.

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  17. that definitely counts as sexual harassment. Even flirting with someone against their wishes can count as sexual harassment, and it can get you in trouble in public settings. eg. a customer hitting on a sales associate/waitress/etc

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  18. IDK How I feel yet since I don't believe the full story is out. Either way, just keep your hands to yourself - it really isn't that hard and it prevents so much troubles like this one here.

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  19. I think it will become common this days in Korea accusation of sexual harassment celebrities like Hollywood

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  20. If a drunk man grabbed my hand and said let's go somewhere I'd kick his ass in the nuts and then call the cops. IMO she didn't overreact.

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  21. That guy looks hella creepy in that photo O_O

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  22. way to go korea *slowclap*

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  23. yeah sexual harassment is definitely about how the victim feels. Maybe reporting it was a bit extreme but if she felt unsafe then she has every right to tbh.

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  24. omg it annoys me so much when they drag the girl away without letting her grab her bag/phone/etc

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  25. Who asked him to touch the girl?


    If she felt uncomfortable or unsafe or felt like she was in danger by this drunk stranger trying to pull her away to somewhere else, of course she'd feel it's sexual harassment.


    Is it so hard to use your mouth to ask instead of getting physical?

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  26. "Kim Sang Hyuk suddenly grabbed my hand and said 'Let's go somewhere'.
    At that moment, I felt sexually embarrassed so I reported him
    immediately."<<<<<< he just grab her hand, that girl is over reacting

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  27. So if a complete stranger grabs your hand out of nowhere then that is completely okay? We should really wait for the full story plus I would like to note how important wording is - if she felt sexual embarrassed enough from the gesture then it must have been a pretty firm/random grab not like having your hand held.

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  28. I want to hear the full thing because how could she feel sexually embarrassed when he grabbed her wrist and said "let's go somewhere." Did he imply that sexual things would happen? I understand if she felt uncomfortable with the wrist-grabbing.

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  29. ... yea that handholding thing is nothing

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  30. Yes! Tia's comeback in June!

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  31. Well, that hat is criminal. Hard to judge the rest.

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  32. What's wrong with this girl? What she thinking going to police only cuz he grab her hand and say some drunk words? Omg she don't know what to be sexual harassment.
    Lot's of women suffer really much from this and here we are some stupid girl because of her this problem might be : ohh they overreacting...

    She should think first.

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  33. Just say, No! and they would stop harrasing you. Contrary to popular belief, most men can handle rejection well.

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  34. This exactly! He's drunk, tell him to piss off and he probably won't even remember that hahahah


    My god, be assertive woman!

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  35. Cases like this which is why real cases don't get solved. What's it next? Kim Hyun Joong looked at you and you felt sexually harassed? Ugh come on.

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  36. Just tell him to piss off and if he tried a second time I'd report it.

    It seems to me like she's just sitting there like a waif and getting offended just because he's being a bit of a dick while drunk. Drunk people are generally happy and a bit childish so just tell him to cut it out once and if he tries a second time then report it.

    If she's that scared of a guy just grabbing her hand and saying "Hey let's go somewhere" and is too scared to even tell him to back off she shouldn't be out at night or near where people get drunk. She's not assertive enough to look after herself.

    Yes, he should not get intoxicated to the point where he doesn't remember what he's doing, but this is the ideal world. She also needs to be able to handle herself and stand up to behaviour she doesn't like. If she's too weak or unconfident she should go out with friends or a companion who will back her up like a wingman.

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  37. Calling out like this is what makes other cases of REAL sexual harassment seem less serious o.e

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  38. and nobody pays for the damn food

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  39. I think it depends on how persistent he was. Like, if he continued to come onto her after she refused, then I would understand, but if not, I do kind of think it's overreacting if he just took her hand.

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  40. There is ofcourse a difference between embarrassment and harrassment.

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  41. I am just saying that her story seems like one of those common flirtings that happens when you run into drunk people at a bar or club.

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  42. lol I've watched a lot of Kdramas and I've seen like these scenes several times ..

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  43. It's okay, people in Korean dramas rarely eat at restaurants anyways. They always sit down, never order food, begin to talk, argue, then get up and walk away. If they never ordered food, no one has to pay~

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  44. It's not a kdrama without one!!

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  45. Not gonna lie, I was one of those people when I first started watching Kdrama, and then it became repeated and it honestly makes me mad now every time I see it.

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  46. This is one of those topics you don't say your opinion because it's such a sensitive topic.

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  47. "It's never too late to hate on him after investigations and results have come out"

    geez, the worst thing is that k-netizens are well aware of themselves gathering to hate on people...

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  48. she might have felt uncomfortable with the situation but I personally think she's overracting if she reported him for it and claimed sexual harassment

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  49. This is bullshit. Sadly, a lot of women exaggerate and report things like violence and sexual harassment or even rape when nothing actually happened as such and they just want cash. They're making it really hard on the police because when a women gets threatened and harmed for real, the police takes their sweet time investigating and speculating things as if they were just searching for a lost cat or something and the offender just runs around free -_-;;;


    But bullshit aside, we're moving forward with technology and stuff, right? Why won't police really just use electronic "dick-bracelets" on every reported or suspected rapist to ensure safety before solving the case?

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  50. What if she felt scared like he was going to rape her? If a man randomly grabbed me and pulled me aside for would obvious be about sex, I would get very offended and maybe report him to the police. 1 in 6 women get sexually harassed in their lifetime so I don't see anything wrong with being careful. It might be an exaggeration or not, we weren't there but I'm willing to give her the benefit of doubt. Everyone went round calling 'A' a slut because of all the 'evidence' and yet the police felt she was wronged. It's not nice to just jump into conclusions

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  51. THIS GIRL
    ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

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  52. and they even waste their order or water by splashing it on someone xD

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  53. It's because of women like her that real victims aren't taken seriously...

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  54. Doesn't something like this almost always happen when you go to a club or walk down a busy street at a college town late at night?
    Maybe she's from the country and this was her first night in the city? lol idk

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  55. grabbing a woman like that is assault though. am i the only one who sees it like that? what else would his intentions be by doing that?

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  56. Korea and the women's rights, backward thinking and such... Yhe worst is that there is so much internalized misogyny that women won't do anything about it.

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  57. It was also in a party part of the city at night. IDK..... girls in SK that would be embarrassed by that wouldn't be out there late at night.

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  58. Kick his ass in the nuts.

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  59. Dick bracelet? Are you fucking serious?

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  60. hand holding is not sexual in nature; it is intimate yes but not in a sexual way. He definitely did violate her personal space and if she said assault then that is plausible but this is a ridiculous case and i hope the judge throws it out because she is giving real victims a bad rap.

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  61. Actually, netizens first suggested it, not me. It's like an electronic anklet that electrocutes you if you misbehave and also acts as GPS but you place it on the dick so you get it electrocuted. I should really put "credit: K-netizens" here ^-^


    And yes, I'm absolutely serious.

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  62. now just watch him go down, whether it is true or not, many claims will start adding up.

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  63. If he did anything he deserves time but if he didn't then of course not. But from what I've been hearing this woman went to his house and they were drinking. Well shes pretty stupid if this part is true.

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  64. Something similar happened to me once. Some random guy touched my hair and made me feel uncomfortable and dare I say harassed. But I don't know what police can do to someone who touches your hand or hair.

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