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Wednesday, May 29, 2013

4minute on 'People Inside'


Article: 4minute "We feel bad for Korean idols" expresses hardships

Source: Newsen via Nate

1. [+705, -75] You chose this path. There are thousands of people who would gladly switch positions with you so don't say things that would only mean happiness to others.

2. [+708, -106] No matter how hard it is, they chose to be celebrities. Even if it's hard, they receive treatment and more. School? Memories? School trips? I've experienced them all and none of them matters when you grow up and you're busy making money to live ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Stop talking without realizing how ful your stomach is. You guys are the ones that make a person's annual salary in just a day.

3. [+650, -71] No one forced you to become celebrities. And don't you ever think about the benefits you earn in place of those memories you can't make?

4. [+89, -5] They chose to be celebrities, they get into college with special treatment, they get scholarships, they get paid to perform at events... I'm jealous.

5. [+85, -5] Every time idols talk like this without realizing how full their stomachs are makes me just want to give them a good slap. What worry could they possibly have? Do they have to worry about getting into college or finding a job? What, they miss high school memories? Shut the fu*k up. How about you quit your career and go back to school then.

6. [+75, -3] Idols these days never know when to quit

7. [+74, -12] Then don't do it. No one's forcing you.

8. [+61, -4] No one asked you guys to become celebrities.

9. [+49, -1] You really call that a hardship? Not being able to go on your high school trip? Shaking my head at you

10. [+47, -1] You guys do realize that not every student can afford those high school trips? Go eat some grass in the time you "miss" those memories

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Article: Nam Jihyun "I was shocked by the hateful comments calling me ugly after my drama appearance"

Source: Newsen via Nate

1. [+248, -18] I'm not a fan or anti but I think I recognize her from that drama with Ryu Jin and Kim So Eun. I remember thinking how she could be so bad at acting such a small role. Despite it being a short appearance, she managed to break up the flow of the drama.

2. [+203, -12] When I first saw her face, I thought she had to be extremely talented.

3. [+210, -20] She's not ugly but she's boring.

4. [+62, -2] I was one of the people who thought she looked ugly after seeing her in Love and War. There's nothing special about her ㅜㅜ and she looked so plain. Definitely not a face for an actress.

5. [+53, -1] I love 4minute so I'm sorry to say this but you have no talent. You're not pretty enough to call pretty, can't sing, can't act... Just practice your singing, at least for that one line you do have...

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Article: Hyuna "My complexes are my voice, cheekbones, and my low tolerance for alcohol"

Source: OSEN via Naver

1. [+211, -11] I get that she's sexy and everything but I wish she'd refrain from make up like this. She looks way better with minimal make up... She ruins her face with excessive make up.

2. [+125, -13] She's going to love her cheekbones once she ages... It might be a complex now but in older age, people look way better with some cheekbones.

3. [+101, -12] I'd say her cheekbones are a charm point, not a complex

4. [+96, -7] Hopefully she never gets work done on her cheekbones...

5. [+78, -10] Cheekbones look bad on women with flat, huge faces but it looks pretty on her because her face is the size of a fist and she's cute. And as for drinking... no one views a woman who drinks a lot positively. She's charming without needing to look like a drinker! And yeah, her voice tone does make her singing or talking sound quite childish and embarrassing;

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184 comments:

  1. i saw 1 4minute member wearing kkk t-shirt on a music show this week. no oene seems to care???

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  2. Jihyun is very yeoppo, isn't she?

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  3. 5. [+85, -5] Every time idols talk like this without realizing how full
    their stomachs are makes me just want to give them a good slap. What
    worry could they possibly have? Do they have to worry about getting into
    college or finding a job? What, they miss high school memories? Shut
    the fu*k up. How about you quit your career and go back to school then.

    I couldn't agree more on this

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  4. [+650, -71] No one forced you to become celebrities. And don't you ever think about the benefits you earn in place of those memories you can't make?

    This is quite true tbh unlike them we still have to worry about our future

    [+89, -5] They chose to be celebrities, they get into college with special treatment, they get scholarships, they get paid to perform at events... I'm jealous.



    LOL BUTTHURT xDD

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  5. what was it? i can't relate

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  6. I hate when netizens rag on idols for expressing hardships. Just because they're celebrities, doesn't mean they don't have the right to complain or that their complaints are justified. There's good and bad to every profession. Just because they might have money (since a lot of idols aren't even breaking even with their company right now), doesn't mean that the means of getting that money is a walk in the park.

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  7. 7. [+74, -12] Then don't do it. No one's forcing you.

    kinda think about this sometimes..especially when some idols don't really want to be a singer after all.....

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  8. some people are so harsh. yes, they chose this path for themselves, but it's different once you're an idol. everything you say, wear and do gets criticized, you never get any privacy, you only get a few hours of sleep each night or none at all, you only see your family a few times a year, etc. maybe netizens need to realize that idols work harder than they think, and that it requires a lot of hard work and persistence to stay as an idol. heck, you have to train for years before you even become one. is it so bad to voice out one's thoughts and opinions once in a while? or should they just say everything's sunshine and rainbows? I'd prefer the realistic side IMO.

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  9. for f*ck's sake, it's the stylist's fault, not the members. I bet they had no idea wtf they were wearing. if you find it such a problem, go find the designer of the shirt and start a protest against them, or something.

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  10. . [+705, -75] You chose this path. There are thousands of people who
    would gladly switch positions with you so don't say things that would
    only mean happiness to others.

    To a certain extent, it's not all fun and games, and you do have to take the good with the bad.

    But,at the same time, i can't help but feel bad for some of them at times. They often don't get paid well, are overworked, and so much pressure that comes with the role of an idol. Because they are constantly walking on egg shells with fans, the public, netizens that i can't even begin how nerve racking that can be at times.


    I enjoy idol music but if i ever had a chance to be one, i'd shoot it down in a hearbeat

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  11. Idols have it easy. They almost don't work and get millions of dollars.

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  12. "She's charming without needing to look like a drinker!"



    Wat?

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  13. Then no one can should complain because there will always be someone on a worse situation than them. Its like those netizens can complain because they have a meager salary but have they thought of homeless people/people with terminal diseases/ etc? According to their logic they cant complain either because in comparison they definitely have it easier.

    I think we all have hardships, on different levels obviously, but that doesnt mean we should love having hardships just because they're not as worse as the others'

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  14. It's annoying celebrities are humans just like the rest of us. It does not mean that they cannot complain about being a celebrity. I'm sure some days they would enjoy being treated as normal people.

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  15. Hyuna "My complexes are my voice, cheekbones, and my low tolerance for alcohol"



    Did she mean her singing voice?

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  16. Hyuna's pretty, but what throws me off is her excessive love for contacts. They look so unnatural especially that one time she was wearing those that were green and crystal-like, they looked positively reptilian on her.

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  17. Oh I found it
    http://25.media.tumblr.com/39f0e80bc620953b9e53396cf7b19cc0/tumblr_mnefoazMs21qlpcino4_r1_250.gif
    http://cdn101.iofferphoto.com/img/item/139/151/399/kkk-flag-ku-klux-clan-rebel-white-power-220b.jpg

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  18. the first topic nearly connected to F(x) statement yesterday ..


    I Hope they don't talk about it..
    Just like JOB Interview ..


    Yes Its hard for the first time but while doing it i'm starting to love it .........


    they should say Sad to happiness

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  19. "the grass is always greener on the other side"

    it's human nature to want what you don't have, even when those things seem like nothing in comparison to people on the other side. i don't think there's anything wrong with them wanting to talk about the things they had to miss out on because of the career path they chose. they're not saying they think they're unlucky or anything like that, just that they wish they could have had it all but because like sucks, they couldn't. tbh i feel bad for korean idols too. fans make their lives suck.



    smh at the jihyun comments, though. and people wonder why so many idols/actresses/celebs are eager to get plastic surgery. i would too if i had that shit being said about me all the time.

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  20. But Celebrity is not just a Human Being ..they are Idol ..means people always watching them

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  21. So because they're idols they're not allowed to have hardships?? Lovely logic there knetizens

    And wth is up with those comments about Jihyun's appearance?! I thought she could be the second visual (I thought she fit the standards but I guess not :(

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  22. That's not a KKK flag, that's a Confederacy flag. They're not exactly interchangeable. Plenty of KKK members also happen to be Confederates but not all of them are.

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  23. Seriously those netizens can lick my clit lol. Saying you can never feel bad or down because others have it worse also implies that well, how the hell can you ever be happy when there are others who have it so much better than you? Netizens, jealousy gets you nowhere.

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  24. Yes I believe so

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  25. I found it..
    http://25.media.tumblr.com/39f0e80bc620953b9e53396cf7b19cc0/tumblr_mnefoazMs21qlpcino4_r1_250.gif
    http://cdn101.iofferphoto.com/img/item/139/151/399/kkk-flag-ku-klux-clan-rebel-white-power-220b.jpg

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  26. no.. practicing everyday ... since debut ..its a lot of work you know..and not just physical pressure also mental pressure ..

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  27. that's actually the confederate flag, which was used by the south during the civil war and then altered and adopted by the kkk after the war. it's considered distasteful in the north but a lot of people in the southern united states still fly that flag outside their houses, wear shirts with it on them, etc.

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  28. Hyuna's eyes always reminds me of a cat..

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  29. anyway ..how to put heart ?..thank you

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  30. The hell?? Celebrities are still human beings. Being in the limelight doesn't make them less than

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  31. Just because they are being watched does not mean that they cannot wish for a normal lifestyle once in a while. They're just as hardworking as your average civilian, but when a celebrity complains they are seen as being bratty or spoiled. What about those who complain everyday about their careers that they choose? Would they be seen in the same light?

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  32. I don't think the netizens are saying that the money is a walk in the park. I'm sure they know that idols suffer through various hardships. The many successful ones get pay, and perks (college acceptances, fan gifts).
    The netizens' message is more like: You get money. You chose the profession. As a public figure, you should maintain your image and not complain about it on TV.

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  33. They're still Homo sapiens sapiens.

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  34. See, emotions are all relative. What can be an idol's worst day can mean nothing for somebody else, and somebody's else greatest happiness can be irrelevant to the rest of us. Just because idols or *us* have something, doesn't mean that we aren't allowed to feel anything negative, ever. People all move in different environments and there are no rules on how somebody is supposed to feel.

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  35. yes ..they are human too i know that and im aware about that..what i mean is..


    The path they choose is not just for being human being ..
    being an idol is beyond "Just Human" status ..so they should expect more pressure ...


    just opinion ....

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  36. The following is pure joke, but, technically, shouldn't they be happy that the truth of celebrity life is being revealed so their children and/or them (depending on their age) don't want to be celebrities anymore?


    Jokes aside, I understand what you're saying and agree with it. In the end, they are public figures that have an image to maintain.

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  37. no said that less human..


    i said being celebrity is beyond being just a Human being ..they are idol or an icon so people will follow them ..they should expect about being criticize and followed..

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  38. were they asked about it or was it that they just said it? :o cause i'd understand if they just said it out of no where but usually they're asked things like that right

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  39. From my perspective, it's like netizens are saying: "Look, you're making a lot of money so you don't get to complain." I don't see anything wrong in expressing the hardships in idol life. Maintaining the whole glitz and glamour and "perfection" that celebrities have to uphold as a part of their image is the reason why some people don't treat them as humans and demean them when they do make mistakes. It's a shame, really.

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  40. ImArnoldSchwarzeneggerMay 29, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    I love 4minute, but i agree, I dont know what Jihyun is doing on 4minute, being the leader is not enough, its hard but its true.

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  41. I'm not understanding what you are saying. So because they are idols they are removed of their human status? Sorry I cannot comprehend what direction you are heading in.

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  42. Her use of contacts make her eyes look so watery and gross :( She looks so much prettier without them and the excessive make-up/fake tan

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  43. Her nose reminds me of Michael Jackson.

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  44. This reminds me of when Krystal had similar sentiments about the idol life and K-netizens and I-netizens alike gave her shit for her thoughts.

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  45. Jihyun is ugly? What?? No way.. I saw 4minute in person at an mtv k event and i thought she was the prettiest member..

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  46. I think idol treatment should be crime

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  47. I hate it when people say this kinds of things, "it's your decision" or "someone has it worse, consider yourself lucky".
    Saying those things to others doesn't change their situation nor does it make their troubles easier. Hardship is hardship, regardless of what position that person may be in, they're still struggling.
    Regardless of the benefits idols get, it does not fully make up for the lack of privacy, harsh haters, sleepless nights, and being overworked.

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  48. I mean.. Simple human got simple life and complain about those simple things ...


    but the path they choose requires Strong heart and Strong mental stability ...to manage too all hardship...


    Yes Its ok for them too complain about it ..but for me.. it's not good to express about their hardship and complain because they are celebrity ....how about those dreamers want to be like them?.. at least they should be an example ..

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  49. Sorry but Hyuna is very ugly.. Esepcially in person. The only time i thought she looked somewhat decent is her Bubble Pop days. I dont see what is the hype about her looks. Yeah her body is alright.. But id choose Hyori's beauty and charms over Hyuna anyday

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  50. I agree about the makeup & contacts but I think she looks finger with a tan.

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  51. I don't know. I'm sure many netizens view idols in the perspective you just stated, but I'm sure others view idols in the perspective I mentioned also.
    & I'm not sure how the maintenance of "perfection" brings about dehumanization?


    The point is, yes, idols are human. Yes, they make mistakes. However, I think as public influential figures, they should definitely hold themselves up differently and basically do their jobs. Mistakes that may be trivial for us shouldn't be compared to when a celebrity makes a mistake (i.e. accidentally uploading a picture of her secret boyfriend).

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  52. shouldn't those who want to be celebrities know that there are hardships and sacrifices involved in being a part of the industry? who's going to tell them if idols don't talk about it? everyone will think it's just a walk in the park. it's better if the public knows that things aren't perfect just because you're famous.

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  53. everyone has hardships and like to complain about their career once in a while, that doesn't mean they regret it or that they don't appreciate it. Celebrities are just as human as those netizens and they have every right to vent out when they are asked about such things.

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  54. Jihyun is very... yeah poo

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  55. these netizens need to take a look in the mirror before calling someone ugly. it's no wonder that so many people resort to plastic surgery; it's because of comments like these that everyone, including idols, feel insecure about their appearance and resort to fixing something on their face just to please the public or even themselves.

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  56. I see what your saying but being a celebrity isn't all rainbows and cupcakes. It's like when American celebs have children and try to shield them from the cruel reality of being a celebrity.

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  57. I don't know, I can see were they are coming from, sure training and the lack of privacy might be hard...but at least they are doing something that they have dreamed off.... Many of us have have to go to school and work full time studying things that don't even make us happy just to be able to in the future earn an income that will be used to pay government and bank loans... We are all criticized for whatever maybe at different scales but we are. They can quit being celebrities when they want(depending on contracts) but we can't quit real life.

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  58. You guys all try to defend your idols and celebrities but you should know they look at us normal people as peasants and don't give a shit about us. You don't know personally. And you judge them off the fake image they have to sell to the public. Of course they seem nice and sweet to you. Especially in the kpop industry. They just pretend to be nice in our faces and take our monies and gifts.

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  59. Those knetz be commenting like they don't complain about anything. There will be times when celebrities will feel like complaining but that doesn't mean they don't appreciate their work. It's pretty much just like a normal office worker complaining how much of a douche their boss is but still won't quit the job bc they earn -_-

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  60. Netizens act if idol's lives are glamorous when really theres groups like T-ara who've barely had any breaks since debut, or 9muses who are abused by their ceo/management.

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  61. . She ruins her face with excessive make up.
    hyunaaaa,,,,,don't u look at the mirror while ur make up artist but that on ur face,,,,

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  62. Well fangirls never want to accept and realize that celebrities and idols do not give a shit about you or your personal life. They don't know you exist. They just sell a nice sweet image to the public and deceive you to take your money. Its your choice whether or not to idolize these people. I definitely have my faves too but i am not obsessed with them. At the end of the day i realize they dont care about me, so you should honestly focus on your life and stop devoting time and money to them..

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  63. "You guys are the ones that make a person's annual salary in just a day."

    SO TRUE.

    Most of people work harder than them and don't get enough money

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  64. Everyone judges celebrities looks.. Even you. Just because they speak about your faves suddenly its not okay huh? lol

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  65. I feel you sister/brother.Most of people suffer from that problem

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  66. chinese are obsessed with pale skin

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  67. Gosh your comment is so honest and pure....

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  68. if they think it's so easy for idols then why don't they become one instead of complaining about their lives via internet

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  69. even if they quit being idols they'll still have bills to pay and real life staring them in the face. it's a job like anything else and while, yes, it's a job they dreamed of having, they have also spent years training and suffering to get to the point they're at. a lot of idols have been training while going to school at the same time since they were 10 or 11. some of them even worked part time jobs on top of that. they didn't have this just handed to them on silver platters, they worked for it just like we work through school to accomplish the things we want. if what you go to school for isn't something you're passionate about because you don't think what you're passionate about will get you enough money, that's all on you and no one else.

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  70. did you not see the word 'everyone'? nowhere in that comment did I specify 4minute. read the comment thoroughly and read between the lines before you try to retort with a false accusation.

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  71. What does that have to do with anything?

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  72. i feel bad for idols

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  73. I honestly fail to see what your comment has to do with mine

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  74. dont feel bad for them...

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  75. We all want what we can't have. But they CHOSE their path. Freely chose their path.


    They might not be able to go on school trips with classmates, but hey. They don't even KNOW their classmates. Instead of going on a school trip to Jeju Island they get to go to Las Vegas and Hong Kong and Tokyo and Europe.


    They're fucking lucky to be able to do that much. And they get to stay at nice hotels with their own rooms.


    Acting like being famous is really so terrible... Lol.


    They're living the good life compared to their fans who struggle just to pay their school tuition. Idols have EVERYTHING given to them. Food, clothes, housing. Their companies pay for them to fly everywhere.


    Rather than bitching about how sad they are that they can't make memories with classmates they never even got to know, they should count their blessings and realize how lucky they are.


    No pity here. Just exasperation.

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  76. Not every idol gets paid that much, but every idol and celebrity general are subjected to the same hardships and challenges of varying levels, plus being judged and criticized by people they don't even know but which opinions they have to consider for the sake of public image.

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  77. In the north? Pffft. Even though i live in the north practically every state still has its country, red neck towns.

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  78. 8. [+61, -4] No one asked you guys to become celebrities.



    Even then they are one now and they're just expressing the downside to it, it's the harsh reality, they have to live their lives missing out some of the most important things humans could experience. We all hate school and what not and we complain about not being famous but there's still a downside to it. Netizens run their mouth as if idols have no right to complain about anything. Fact: They're humans too.

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  79. lol it probably depends on where you live. my state wasn't even a state when the civil war happened and we're on the whole really liberal, so i've never seen one around here. i saw them ALL THE TIME in the south, though. the further north and west you go, the less often you see it.

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  80. It is human nature to crave for what we don't have. There are people who live regular lives and look at celebrities with envy because of the proverbial "fame and fortune". Those netizens may be aware of the hardships celebrities go through, but they seem to pass these difficulties on as small prices to pay for fame and money--both of which not every celebrity gets. As for celebrities, It is normal for them to wonder about what it's like to have a normal life and even be sad about not being able to experience it. We all complain about various things, trivial or not; celebrities are humans, yes they chose their path but that doesn't rob them of their freewill to voice out their complaints.

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  81. talking about their hardships as idols DOES NOT mean they don't accept and understand what the celebrity life is all about.


    yeah they chose this path, and i'm pretty sure they knew what they were getting into and pursued it anyway, but that doesn't mean they can't complain about it sometimes. i (and everyone else) complain about my studies and how hard it can be, but at the end of day i love what i'm studying. it's pretty much the same thing.

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  82. Yeah, there's always too much cake on Hyuna's face.
    I don't think Jihyun is ugly, but she's not drop dead gorgeous to me, idk
    And the whole "not everyone can afford those trips" is a good point. I thought they were free, lol

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  83. Nobody is going to like every aspect of their job... why should idols be hated on for saying what they don't like about theirs? It's ridiculous.

    And as for Jihyun I do feel bad for her being called ugly because the netizens who keep calling her that are probably just butterfaces who feel better by talking shit behind a keyboard about people who look better than them.

    HOWEVER they do have a point when they say she is untalented... she is probably one of the nicest idols you will come across but she really is THAT bad at singing and dancing... her volume up performances made me laugh in a bad way.

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  84. There is nothing wrong with complaining about their burdens to their friends and families, I just view that they shouldn't have said this because the show is aired for everyone to see. Pretty much everyone talks about life hardships privately but would any one of us be willing to talk about it on public tv show with their face being shown for the entire nation to see? Unless they want to receive a hate from their boss, no one would talk badly about their work. And everyone has their own hardships, it's not like being an idol is worse than normal people's routine. I believe that certain things should be reserved to one's own privacy.

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  85. 3. [+210, -20] She's not ugly but she's boring.


    Agree. 4minute would be better if they got rid of Sohyun or Jihyun and just became a four-member group. Even a three member group would be good with 2YOON and HyunA as a trio, although I wouldn't care if they were just 4 members. But five is too much when both Sohyun and Jihyun are dead weight. It's okay to have one useless member but two is too many.

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  86. 1. [+211, -11] I get that she's sexy and everything but I wish she'd
    refrain from make up like this. She looks way better with minimal make
    up... She ruins her face with excessive make up.


    evertime i see hyuna her make up getting bold . i love her slight make up, bcs she actually very cute and beautiful

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  87. to netizens idols can get raped,kicked ect an their reply will always be "you choose that path".


    i think we all choose our careers because we want the good part NO ONE wants the bad side, and idols are no exception.

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  88. seing all of the comments, netizen were harsh I mean this girls just basically stating their opinion and they gor criticize like that, *sigh* when will they change

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  89. I don't think you know what a butterface really is xD A butterface is like G.na. Very nice body, but not a very nice face.

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  90. Each person has something they don't have and have. Netizens shouldn't act like expressing is something wrong just because celebrities have different difficulties. :/

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  91. Yeah, not every downside should be aired, I suppose. I just feel really iffy on how celebrities have to maintain an image at the expense of their freedom to say whatever is on their mind. As for the dehumanization part, I feel that a lot of people don't see celebrities as "normal" people that don't have their own insecurities, flaws, etc. That pedestal that they're placed on is the reason why people feel that celebrities shouldn't even talk about how their privacy is repeatedly violated by paparazzi because "they signed up for it," or that they can openly hate on the person when they probably wouldn't do it to an average person in real life.

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  92. idols seem to talk a lot about being sad for missing highschool memories but.. most highschool memories aren't really worth remembering lol. they aren't missing much.

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  93. So damn true!

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  94. Every choice in life has pros and cons. No one can have it all, even celebrities.

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  95. well i do agree that they choose to be celebs but i mean everybody complains about their work they want to do something then get to work on it and ended complaining

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  96. #5 No need to be such an a**hole. They could've learned a lot of useful life lessons had they done all of the things that they missed out on. Things that you got to learn that they'll never know.

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  97. I don't think it's that cut and dry though. Yes, they're following their dreams but at what price? Some celebrities crumble underneath the sheer pressure of being a celebrity. I'm sure a lot of them would just forego the anxieties that come along with the job if they could.


    I don't think I understand the "quit being celebrities vs. quit real life" portion. Quit being a celebrity is the same as quitting a job. Unless said celebrity was managing their finances well enough where they can retire early or live within their means for the rest of their life (very few of them have those options), then they have nothing else to fall back on. I think this is especially the case for Korean idols.

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  98. Imagine having none at all tho. That is what Sohyun was trying to express. She cannot relate because she couldn't experience any of it working.

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  99. By their logic, they're also not allowed to complain about their jobs and their hardships. After all, they chose that job and course in life. And trust me, people will shoot you down if you even try. That should be their reality since they love imposing it on others.



    I'm never surprised by all the harshness 4minute receives from netizens. It's been that way since debut.

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  100. 2. [+203, -12] When I first saw her face, I thought she had to be extremely talented.

    WTF. Seriously? I mean,... seriously?? Is there some kind of class called Shallowness 101 that Korean public schools keep on their curriculum?

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  101. netizens should make a meme out of idols complaining about hardships.

    'I missed out on high school memories like getting bullied or studying 24/7 for college exams because i was too busy making money and getting famous, its why i had to accept special admissions to a top rated school'

    'we worked really hard to win #1 but we didnt, we were so depressed we didnt even have the energy to play games on our dozen ipads our fans gave us'

    'going to the army was the toughest thing in my life, they made me do a musical with leeteuk'

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  102. First off, you're contradicting yourself. You said "you should know they look at us normal people as peasants and don't give a s*** about us" but then you turn around and say "you don't know them personally" if you don't know them

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  103. Idealistically, that is how idols should be living but most do not. Only the really famous and commercially successful ones like Big Bang and SNSD could. Plenty of idols are struggling because the market is so tiny, they're only getting crumbs from that proverbial pie that they thought they would get a good chunk of. A lot of them are getting scammed out of their money from their companies while they still work tirelessly (e.g. Block B, E.via/Tymee, Younha, etc.).


    Even when they're successful, there are pros and cons to everything. More often times than not they're going to those "exotic" places to work, not to play. As for me, I'd rather struggle to pay my tuition and feed myself than be famous. 4minute's plights seem trivial but there are bigger issues that idols have to deal with that I wouldn't want to experience for a second.

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  104. "i think we all choose our careers because we want the good part NO ONE wants the bad side, and idols are no exception." Couldn't have said it better, honestly.

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  105. Those comments about Jihyun are so annoying!!! and they ask why there's so much plastic surgery monsters in Korea... Jihyun is very pretty. She already said in the interview that she was shocked on the hateful comments and yet they still remained rude/whiny/insensitive ... I can already feel her self esteem going down the drain, If she gets plastic surgery I better not see comments like "Oh she was way prettier back then!! what have you done to your face unnie" Bullcrap... and honestly I'm as much disappointed to those who upvoted those comments SMH

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  106. Yup! And I am actually laughing at the part where the comments said that their stomach will always be full. The irony is that theur stomach will always starve, because they are sometimes seen as 'company property' and what they do to their body matters. I feel bad for the idols because they have it the hardest, not just because of the public scrunity but because of the relentless criticision they face. They might have chosen this job, but they perhaps didn't know what it entails until they become celebrities. And when that happens, they can't even quit. :(

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  107. Irrelevant to his/her comment but ok

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  108. Any path you choose in life is hard, but I wished they were given at least some basic human rights like daily sleep, a day off once a month, etc...

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  109. anybody who's jealous of them is stupid lol

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  110. Jihyun is a pretty lady.
    Hating on her won't make these netizens any prettier. :)

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  111. So? Those who want to be doctors or lawyers or anything else start at the beginning of their school years, students work part time jobs, take care of their siblings, go to after school activieties, clubs, pre sat classes, They talke ap classes, they do hours of volunteer work, ap classes, honor classes, is that nothing? That is just as hard. Specially in countries like SK and Japan in we're grades are everything, students don't get home till late at night then they go to college in where many drop out on the first years were they have to study things that they don't like, because you don't really study thing in your career full time till you are in your masters program which takes years to. Get to. Dreams are not easy to attain, not everybody has the opportunities to get to live them. Of course they do work hard, but try to understand. When you complain don't your parents reprimand you? Don't you get annoyed by people complaining? The only difference is that they complain to the rest of the world and the rest of people get to be annoyed.

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  112. butterface means they have good body but ugly face. i doubt the haters even have a nice body.

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  113. How are Jihyun & Sohyun dead weight?

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  114. should be on every 4minute post


    http://25.media.tumblr.com/9e0a5c5c7916b8a2bd4234f4b36bc44a/tumblr_mm0ualpn841rn5v0yo2_500.gif



    netizens need to take a wild dive off the side off a cliff and save us all the time

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  115. Maybe it's just me, but I don't see it :/

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  116. Let me exchange positions with you

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  117. me too, i saw them when they went to jakarta, pick them up at airport (at that time gayoon was sick so she didn't participarte)
    jihyun was the one who came out first and she look so stunning! i think jihyun is the prettiest and sohyun is the 2nd though. this maknae look so cute idk how to express

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  118. I'm sure they're happy with their jobs and lives as idols, but a part of them will always wonder what if they didn't choose this life. We all make decisions and will have some time of hardship in our lives, it's okay to feel sad about a missed opportunity. Trainee life is very hard and no matter what anyone says about it, sometimes you won't know until you're there. Money isn't everything & that doesn't always make you happy. They want idols to be more honest but when they are, they're criticized for it.
    I agree with them about Hyuna's makeup....it's way too much.

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  119. We cant have it all.. Something gotta give

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  120. I see them a lot in the south and usually on trailers

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  121. Like KHJ said in barefoot friends.. he wouldn't trade his celebrity life.

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  122. Korean idols have experience, the ones that made it go on to work in the enterteinment industries, those that quit hike they were still young go on to have regular life's, go to school. What makes you so sure t hat their life will be over?

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  123. Of course dreams are not easy to attain but compassion and empathy for both sides of the coin is not unheard of.


    Everyone works hard. Everyone has the right to complain when they feel it's hard. Everyone also has the right to not have strangers swear at them for supposedly having it easier. Money is not everything. If you have no peace inside even if you're a trillionaire, life is hell.

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  124. i never said that regular people don't also have difficult lives and struggle to achieve their dreams, i was just pointing out that people who want to be celebrities have struggles of their own. it's a different path and lifestyle, but in the end most people have to work their asses off to get what they want. not all idols have the same opportunities, either. like some kids are able to go to school without worrying about money or things like that, some idols can train without having to worry about that either. but it goes the other way as well - just because idols have money and luxuries NOW doesn't mean they ALWAYS had them. they had to work for them.

    as it happens, my parents don't reprimand me when i tell them about the things that are hard for me. maybe it's a cultural difference, but neither do i mind listening to my friends complain when they have problems at school or when they're having trouble finding jobs. they listen to my problems too. i know idols wouldn't listen to my problems, but they're not my friends so i wouldn't expect them to. i do still find it interesting to hear about the differences in their lives and mine, about the things that i took for granted growing up normal that they weren't and aren't able to have and do and the problems they face that i would never imagine having.

    and like i said in another comment, if idols never spoke on the difficulties of celebrity, wouldn't kids think it's easy and no big deal and jump into it thinking they'll just be able to laze around and become rich? then what would happen to those kids if they failed? if they succeeded but hated it and then didn't know what else they could do? they're not trying to gain pity. it's not like they think kids who are starving or resorting to suicide have it easier than them. they're explaining that even their lives aren't perfect, giving us all a reminder that the grass isn't always greener on the other side. i don't think it's wrong for them to be able to talk about things like this in interviews.

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  125. the thing is
    their paycheck they get from all this, the fangifts, the fame, is wat they get for enduring all these hardships
    thats their job

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  126. Netizens are a bit blind.


    I saw Jihyun twice in two days when they were in Singapore and she is most definitely the prettiest in 4minute. You see her upclose and her face is just...lovely.

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  127. Several points.

    1.Not everyone has the same experiences (studying 24/7, bullying, etc.)

    2.Not every idol is famous or rolling in dough

    3. Not every idol gets into school with special treatment.

    4.Many groups don't even have a stable/large fanbase. So who's giving them ipads and video games? The most they get is food.

    5.What was the purpose of mentioning Leetuk? He's completely irrelevant to the topic. Find another place to vent you're hatred/distaste for Leetuk

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  128. I think that to complain about your life/job is a human right lol.

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  129. I think they have the right to complain. It's their job, and no one loves all parts of their jobs. There are the good and the bad.

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  130. It's so obvious most of them are only kids/students who doesn't even know life out there yet.

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  131. they call them ugly because they dislike them or because they're jealous, not because they're actually ugly. people like to act like middle school mean girls in comments.

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  132. Maybe she isn't photogenic.. honestly on camera she isn't that pretty, but like u guys said meeting her in live s other thing, because she looks so pretty.

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  133. They can't sing and their visual isn't as appealing or interesting as the other members.

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  134. They just look cheap..

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  135. Hmmm...being an idol/celebrity comes with a price. I think if you'd like to become one, you should be prepared to lose some of your privacy, be ready to face criticisms, not getting enough sleep/rest, and to be away from your family and to not have enough time with them. All of those in exchange of fame and money.

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  136. That's rich coming from a T-ara fan.


    Sohyun can dance, play the piano, the guitar, rap. She gets a lot of lines in their songs. She is most certainly not dead weight

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  137. According to korean netizens idols must be like robots, they must show an image of perfection, no complains.. I suppose this is a cultural difference as how we see our idols or artists, however I don't think it's wrong they spoke of their hardships, it makes them humans and less robots for me, also like many people pointed it creates awareness for the kids that wants to follow this path and live like idols..

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  138. did hyuna get a nose job

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  139. The more I look at Jihyun the less pretty I think she is. She's actually quite average, I think her 4Minute members look even prettier than her sometimes even if she gets all the attention. She must've got her ego punched when she read netizens reaction. But what's up with that, there's hardships with every job, why can't they complain a lil as well?

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  140. Haven't they read about American artists said that they miss their high school too? They couldn't enjoy their high school because what they chose to be an artist, they had to work....

    Artists in my country sometimes talk about that "High school" memories too.. So what's wrong if these Korean idols feel the same too? A lot of artists or idols from other countries are feeling the same.....

    "What worry could they possibly have?"

    their low salary, the low anticipations of their comebacks or low anticipations of THEM, how people like you would think of them, how to hide their scandals, how to show up as a happy person every time when they were actually in pain... They're just the same with us, they have worries but they have to cover it up with cheerful acts -_-;



    4minute jjang! >~< so brave to talk about it... they remind me to sunhwa when she talked about this too...

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  141. They have every right to express their thoughts, they are human just like the Knetizens, so why should they shut up?

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  142. i feel bad for korean idols too but not for the same reason.
    when i read the title of the article i thought she would say that she feels bad for idols because of the constant bashing they receive from k-netizens...

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  143. [+705, -75] You chose this path. There are thousands of people who would gladly switch positions with you so don't say things that would only mean happiness to others.



    This couldn't agree more especially nowadays Idols just come and go that easy. I mean with one simple mistakes, they are gone for good.
    We already seen it happened to some idols.

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  144. yeah they don't have school memories...but in exchange they experience things that we peasants can't even dream of

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  145. I kind of get both sides of the argument here. I think, instead of losing school memories and stuff, what they meant is losing their childhood and precious teenage days and this IS serious. My bias, Taemin, debuted at 14 in international age and he said it himself "if you really want one thing, you have to sacrifice another" and he lost so much friends and childhood days due to becoming an idol. It's sad. However, it's also true that the benefits of being an idol (especially if you're popular) outdo the lost opportunities. People always say that money isn't everything but it's the money that keeps you alive.

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  146. "if you really want one thing, you have to sacrifice another" he's totally right! you can't have it all after all

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  147. Sohyun (4minute's maknae) would understand Taemin's situation the most. She debuted in another group at 12 years old before she joined Cube and she probably trained for a year or two before that so basically...that's half her childhood gone.


    I don't think both of them got to experience so many memories everyone else takes for granted and that's really unfortunate. And that's what she was trying to say but people just take it as if they're complaining.

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  148. Knetz comments is not for sensitive idols to read, so they should really stop reading those comments to avoid any mental damages & heart attacks.. if they can't handle them!

    Knets are obsessed with actors more than idols.. it's just weird

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  149. Opinions and such, I agree with one of the comments, she's not ugly but she's 'boring', I wouldn't say she's on the pretty side personally :/ .

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  150. This is the biggest bullshit I've ever witnessed on the internet.


    I don't understand why celebrities can't complain when everyone else in the world does. A lot of kids complain about how much school "sucks" as well as how "bad" their home situation is when they've got it pretty good. Even their parents complain. Moms complain about cooking and cleaning, dads complain about working too hard. Adults complain about how hard their

    The one thing that people never understand is that there is no day off with this career. Every single day, you are in the spotlight. You can't do anything without someone else knowing about it, no matter how hard you try to avoid it. You can't have a personal life period. Doesn't that get tiring? Parents get days off, and so do the kids. They can do whatever the hell they want, and they can go right back to work days later no matter how they spend their day off.


    Celebrities don't have this privilege at all whatsoever. They can't even quit, due to their contracts and their fans. Their contracts bind them until further notice, and fans will follow them for years until their careers are long forgotten. Even if they leave the industry, there will still be news articles written about them every once in a while. If they do anything bad even ten years later, netizens are still going to hate on them and bring up their old careers. It never fucking ends.



    Netizens can bitch all they want about not having enough money, but they have enough money to pay for an internet connection. They're obviously surviving, but they're just butthurt that they're not as rich as the celebrities. They don't understand that money isn't everything. Having some freedom can be worth a lot more than money.

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  151. u seem to know alot bout it..... WHITE POWER!

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  152. Preach it! 'I get to complain, damn it of those idols do act like they suffered'. The only reason thousands try but never make it because of how intense things her in the entertainment industry. It's not like 4minute woke up famous. It took them years of training and God knows what else

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  153. Because you can't expect every idol to quit to go on to have a regular life. Ideally that would be the case, but that doesn't always happen.

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  154. Maybe because I'm interested in American history, particularly civil rights history and historical prejudice?

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  155. I don't understand.. I find Jihyun so beautiful D:

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  156. Do Knetizens hate celebrities?

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  157. Have you seen how skinny HyunA is now? They don't have full stomachs...

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  158. Oh yeah, I know. I'm just not stooping to their level and assume they must have something good about them if they are going to talk dirt on her appearance.

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  159. LOL probably not, but I'm saying they must have awfully nice bodies to diss on her face so nonchalantly. I wasn't being serious with that remark haha.

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  160. Everyone worries and everyone has the right too. The grass is always greener on the other side, etc etc. No need to hate them for sometimes wishing for things they don't have. Everyone does it, it doesn't mean we aren't thankful

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  161. alright my nigga no need to get all tehcnical

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  162. She's not ugly but hardly pretty.

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  163. Hyuna's nose... what happened.

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  164. it is crazy how celebrities can't really say anything without being criticized. you have to be hella strong emotionally to survive living a life as a celebrity.

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  165. I'm annoyed at the negative reaction to idols complaints. So what if they chose that life - it's still not acceptable to treat them like dirt simply because they knew what they were getting into.

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  166. Cheekbones or not, Hyuna will become Hyunot once she starts to rot.

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  167. Idols do have to go through a lot of crap and netizens aren't any help at all. But on the flip side they did sign up to be idols. But that doesn't mean some of the things they go through should be happening.

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  168. Seriously I don't get what's with all the hate here. Yes these girls choose this path because they wanted to be famous. They aren't bitching about that, they are grateful. There has to be tremendous pressure on them because being famous has it's perks but also has its downside to it. As for Ji Hyun, I know she is an intervert and isn't one of the outgoing members so when people say things like "she is ugly or boring", it really takes a toll because she isn't one to socialize so she isn't used to having all these things said to her.

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  169. It looks like she did her tip reduced.

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  170. with the amount of hate they're spewing, obviously they didn't have much good school memories. maybe it's just me, but school trips and hanging out with my friends is something i srsly cherished.


    but like the famous saying said, the grass always looks greener on the other side.

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  171. Do you not understand how hard it is to be a public figure? You're entitled to an opinion obviously, considering nobody in the world is going to give a shit about it. You are like many other people. You are not in the spotlight constantly.

    But let's give an example. Let's say HyunA did not like another idol and thought that this idol was untalented. You know how people will react? Hundreds, thousands, probably hundreds of thousands will react to HyunA AND the other person affected. She has that much power the make or break her own career as well as potentially someone else's with just a slip of the tongue. Do you know how much pressure that is?

    No. You don't. You apparently cannot even fathom this concept.

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