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Wednesday, January 2, 2013

Shin So Yool's rise to fame spotlights concerns for rookie actors


Reader request.

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Article: Shin So Yool "I've been a rookie for the past 8 years and now I finally feel like I'm living now that I work 5 days a week"

Source: Newsen via Nate

1. [+630, -62] Instead of idols like Suzy, Yoona, UEE, Park Yoochun, and Kim Jaejoong, I wish people would focus more on discovering rookie talents like Shin So Yool, Kim Go Eun, or Yoon Jin Yi. Son Hyun Joo's award speech for his daesang really broke my heart.. It used to be definite that idols shouldn't be a part of dramas but people now talk as if a drama can't exist without one idol in it.. Please, let's use actors instead of idols. Real actors.

2. [+493, -11] I'd rather producers use rookie actors instead of idols

3. [+387, -11] I love her~~~ She's so cute and a great actress to boot~

4. [+35, -2] She's been a rookie so long because she doesn't have a sponsor. Celebrities with sponsors land several lead roles in a blink.

5. [+30, -14] I agree with the best replies. I seriously don't get how people can fangirl idols and praise them for their acting. Think about it objectively, are there any idols that are really good? None. Or is it that we have all lowered our expectations for them? Park Yoochun? Kim Jaejoong? Yoona? Suzy? Yuri? Look at it objectively, can you really say they act well? There's no doubt that idols are the best at what they do on stage but they're all poor actors. Stick them next to a real actor and it becomes evident just how much they suck ㅋㅋ

6. [+24, -9] Reply 1997 really did wonders for these actors

7. [+22, -1] There is a lot of criticism about the use of idols, but you have to think of it from the investor's perspective. You're investing with the expectation of receiving a profit return, so why would you gamble your investment on a rookie that may or may not do well when you have an idol that will guarantee you at least an average? People are so easy to talk because it's not their investment money that's at risk. If you really want change, you as viewers should set a precedent where taking chances on rookie actors can actually bring about good results, otherwise the industry will remain idol-focused..

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104 comments:

  1. I LOVE THE 7TH comment. Seriously..... not all actors whatever are good so some producers go to the safe line- IDOLS

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  2. only actors in dramas please.

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  3. The last comment is perfect.

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  4. the last comment actually makes a lot of sense.

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  5. As much as I feel for the rookie actors and agree to a certain extent that idols shouldn't be taking up spots that should be going to those that are already in the profession, the seventh comment made a lot of sense from a business perspective. Having an idol in a drama increases the likelihood of viewers tuning in to watch. If viewers are so dead set against idols acting in dramas, then they shouldn't tune in to watch them in the first place.

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  6. netizens criticize all the timeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee *snore*
    but they are the only one giving so many attention to idols
    I bet even they prefer read Suzy news than Shin So Yool news
    if this was news about Shin So Yool new drama or hobby..
    they would not be commenting rigth now LOL but they cant lose every opportunity to write bad about idols lol

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  7. i kind of agree with the last comment, but if they're going to use idols in their dramas, they should at least find idols that act above average. it's embarassing and shameful to the rookie actors who would do anything for a role

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  8. agree with k netizens but at the same time i think what that #7 comment say is true idols r a hot topic not just in korea but internationally so yeah PD wants to earn more money they get idols.
    I love KHJ but seriously he is not a great actor he is not thaaaaat bad but rookie actors r way better, i think it would be great to get rookie actors and A list actors in dramas and Idols as a supporting role or somethin but pleaseeeeeee dont give them any lead role

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    1. KHJ!!!!! I love him too! But I think my love for him as a fan is just for the way he is (&his looks of course). I am an avid fan but I'm not a delusional one. I know he's not very strong in singing or acting so I can defend him there. One thing that I think is very praiseworthy of him is that he ha really worked hard to improve. You can really see that he tries hard & I always trying to improve & had improve. He's still not great or the best but unlike A LOT if stars lately, just because you're popular doesnt mean you shouldn't try!

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  9. last commets is perfect....they name jaejoong and yoochun ( i guess they are relevant in korea), an average korean drama like protect the boss was sold to 45 countries and one of them, japan payed a really high price just because there was jaejoong, so who will production team will hire, a good actor but not that famous or a relatively good at acting idol?... if JYJ was a normal idol group with normal activities and tv appearences they wouldn´t be talking about jaejoong and yoochun...

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    1. What's wrong with them trying new things ? It's not like they are terrible actors like dongho. They are still considered rookies and are getting better each time so people should really just leave them alone.

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  10. if the idols are good at acting why must they be kicked out ? Park Yoochun and Uee act well enough in par with rookie actors and are working really hard as well. Netizens are just hating cos they are idols not taking into account talent ><

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  11. Even if they hire actual actors, it doesn't mean the drama will be any good. I've seen so many dramas and I hardly liked any of them. They all seem the same.

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  12. although i agree that there is some bad idol actors but why against idols. the thing is the ones they listed some r really good. and they r some bad real actors too. they were dissing rain and saying kim tae hee could do better but she cant act for shit yet they love her cause she is an actress. what hypocrites same with han ga in. although some of the comments were disagreeing that she taken the big award they were still praising her at the same time and consider her as one of their major actresses although she cant act. i am starting to doubt that these so called "netizen" r regular general people. but those crazy trolls just like in youtube and yahoo. i guess the idols they listed r the relevant potential ones they feel threatened by. i am currently watching i miss u just like the majority of kdrama fans and the 2 lead actors r idols but they r so damn good i just dont see them anything but actors when i watch them and super excited for the next episode to come out

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  13. There are acting idols that did far better in their debut than "actual" actors did and continues to grow faster than they have. They don't even look at their individual growth. The ignorant comments that certain people can't be a good actor just because they have the word "idol" on their resume. Sad, stupid and ignorant.

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  14. i dont really care whether they use actors or idols. just give me good dramas. i'll take bad actors anytime for a good plot and i would not watch a shitty drama that has really good actors. to me, plot is more important than actors.
    i have a question for the netizens. if a bad actor/actress was against an idol that happened to be better than that actor/actress, who would you choose? are you gonna discriminate against the idol because that idol happened to have that label on him/her?

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  15. Rookie actress fo 8 years? Give me break, it's called being unsuccessful for 8 years. Really, not saying anything about her talent. But it's unfair to compare 8 years of acting to 1-3 years of acting. When will they find REAL rookie actors to compare acting idols with? Try to see the difference in their experience before judging.

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    1. You should give her a break also. I get what you're saying but you also have to consider.. a role given to an idol is an opportunity she loss. I'm not saying idol stars are stealing it (I mean this to ANYONE who can't act but got the role). If you can actually act, then by all means, congrats. But to see so many bad acting, it makes me sad for actresses like Shin Soo Yul, who (to me) is a pretty good actress.

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  16. I understand how the last comment think. But at the same time disagree as well.. I agree about the part, yes use idol especially the popular one can secure investment or overseas broadcast sale, obvious example: KHJ , JEJUNG, YUCHUN, snsd girl. But rating is never related to you use idol star or not.. It has been proved every times that idol cant help bring rating.. No matter what, the one who bring the rating (even the average one) is the story/plot.. So if it happened an idol drama have high rating, is because public think the story is catchy enough for public, and certainly not because it has an idol as the lead. Don't think its because its staring your oppa or unni.. Idol local market is not that big to guarantee rating..

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    1. Um, sales > ratings. Ratings doesn't necessarily mean that the drama didn't make big bucks off the drama. TTBY's ratings & audience reception was not all that great but they're still making that money internationally. & why?... because of Minho & the other pretty faces. So..I mean your comment is right in a way but business-wise.. ratings is something they aim for but it's not a big deal if they can still make money.

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  17. I really wish that the director & whoever else that are in charge of making dramas would just be honest & fair. They really should base things on skills & talents instead of popularity. The Chaser team did that & look how successful it was. They should really use that as an example. I mean, im not against idols acting. If they're good, THEN they should be considered. Like I prefer UEE acting over Han Ga In's acting x 100!!!

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  18. Maybe there's a reason that she was a rookie for 8 years, more like unsuccessful for 8 years, she's from reply 1997 the one paired with Eun Ji Won right? She wasn't really that captivating, her costars, who by the way are almost all idols did a better job than her in capturing the viewers attention. If the idol is great at acting, why stop him just because he debut as an idol/singer first. But there are a lot who gets casted coz of their popularity not coz of their talent (Yunho, I hope you have improved since the last time your drama flopped, and that goes to Minho too)

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  19. you say it yourself "No matter what, the one who bring the rating (even the average one) is the story/plot.."
    is goong yoo latest drama doing ok ? no
    Cha tae hyun ? no
    it doesn't matter whether it's an actor or an idol, the story must be good..
    The difference in using idols is, it guarantee the foreign market so of course producers would choose idols over rokie

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  20. THIS tbh..there are lots of veteran actors and actresses who are bad in acting. Why discriminate the idols? for me they are just the same. There's always those who shine and those who are not. The problem here is they spotlight negativity on idols too much and there are less criticisms on the other acts.

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  21. well..I don't watch dramas for the actors. I watch it for the story. Whether the actors are veterans or rookies or inexperience in the field, If the story is likable. I will like it. If the actor brings life to the character, then he/she pass. Why so serious and discriminatory? there's lots of dramas out there that don't involve idols but it's still shitty and have idol-casted dramas that are actually good.

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  22. Gong Yoo's had Suzy. Cha Tae Hyun's have Uee.

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  23. It would make sense if the dramas idols were in actually brought in good ratings...

    But let's see...

    Love Rain = flop
    To the Beautiful You = flop
    Fashion King = flop
    Big = flop
    Dream High 1&2 = flop
    Heartstrings = flop
    Playful Kiss = flop

    I really could go on and on, but the list is just too long. The last idol-centric drama that actually did well was Boys Over Flowers.

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  24. Right....... explain Love Rain, then.


    Drama flopped hard despite Yoona, one of Korea's favorite idols, being the female lead.

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  25. Name me FIVE dramas where idols were cast in lead roles that did well. And by "well", I mean that the average ratings are over 20%.

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  26. You're making it sound like Suzy was a main lead in Big.
    It was Gong Yoo and Lee MinJung (who was quite popular at that time) and it didn't do well at all.


    Most dramas these days have an idol presence in some form--whether it be a cameo, a reoccurring role, or just an idol laden soundtrack. It makes no real difference. The success of a drama has more to do with a good plot and storyline than it does with the caliber of the cast.

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  27. Protect the Boss
    Boys Over Flowers
    Dream High (it wasn't over 20% but it did hit 20 and was usually just around that range)
    Athena
    Iris (TOP wasn't a 'main' role, but he was a major character)

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  28. dream high 1 is a success , average rating is 17,3% , even ep 13 & 16 reached 20% . Dream high 1 is # 3 in the overall category in naver in 2010 & #1 for drama search http://www.allkpop.com/2011/12/naver-unveils-2011s-top-search-words-ranking

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  29. boys before flowers is not idol drama. they're pretty much nobody before starring in that drama, except for kim hyun joong

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  30. oh but you forget one of the best drama of the year is so idol-centerd : Reply1997.

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  31. Average rating is 12%, that is 'well'. Over 20% is a "hit" drama. Just say 'hit' dramas. Sheesh.

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  32. Well, yes Dream High 2 is a flop but Dream High 1 did pretty well in their time slot http://www.dramabeans.com/2011/01/dream-high-emerges-as-ratings-leader/

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  33. I just wanted to point out that Dream High 1 was not a flop, thank you very much. :) Anyway, despite low ratings, the broadcasting companies actually earn alot from overseas sales of the dramas. Because it is idol centred, there is a huge demand of it. I am betting To the Beautiful You didnt do so bad in the overseas market and it is because it is idol centred! Not to mention investors and sponsors are only willing to put their money in it for the big names that can guarantee their products qiite a bit of exposure as opposed to a rookie actor/actress. I am betting that SM had pumped in quite abit of money for the production of the drama too. So there is your answer!

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  34. The last one... That was from a wise Knetizen. My First time praising s knetizen.

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  35. UEE and Yoochun are great actors.
    If the idol can act I can't see a problem on that but if the idol can't act and even like that still lands a lead role that's not good, give the roles to the real actors, it doesn't matter if they are idols or not, they have to know how to act.

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  36. uee and yoochun are good.. yoochun need to approve but uee definitely a great actress..

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  37. Rather than complaining about idols, try a new concept for a change. Same darned concept all year around. It gets boring.

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  38. Jang Geun Suk wasn't also in it? One of Korea's favorite actors.

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  39. rooftop prince is an idol drama.. han jimin get the applause and yoochun not.. that drama mostly was relay in yoochun act .. not just he's an idol with big fanbase.. he's not the best but the guy surely can act..

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  40. TOP barely talked and showed us his great acting if you watched the drama..
    Not to mention he shot a goddamn desert eagle without a recoil explain me that.

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  41. Dramas with idols don'd well just in Korea but they do well overseas. You're Beautifull was very successful, Hearstring too, make a considerable sucess on Japan(ranked #1 on 2012 Tsutaya K- Drama Rentals Annual Chart!). So idol as actors don't make much difference in Korea but they do help to sell the drama to others countrys.

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  42. Yoochun and Jaejoong dramas are all success..and Reply 1997 / Caffee Prince / Goong...

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  43. Plus protect the boss did well in korea too...

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  44. Do you really think Reply1997 was popular because idols were in it? Eunji and Hoya were nugus.

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  45. the last comment is perfectly right !
    there is a reason why the producers take idols to play, it's because they bring more ratings.
    if people want the rookies actors to succeed they have to watch them more. it's always easy to criticize without doing what they say.
    plus all idols are not bad actors !

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  46. I have no problems with idol actors but can they actually work their way up first?? so many of them land lead roles right away. If they want respect in the acting world, then they need to work for it just like most actors do: starting from the bottom. Take small roles first.

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  47. lol do you know why it took her 8 years to find success? because she doesn't have the privilege of being an idol and getting lead roles right away. The fact that shit actors like Minho can get a lead role right away is a disgrace.

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  48. though they flop rating wise, the investors made a lot when their drama get sell overseas. i think that is what they are betting on, more than the ratings.


    look at playful kiss, the drama flop but it sold to 12 countries overseas. the drama sold for 3.6 million dollars. One of the highest selling price for a drama sold overseas.


    tbh, i think at this point they don't even care about the ratings in korea but how many countries they can sell it and for how much.

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  49. jyj need to get out with their lame acting

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  50. Delusional as usual. A drama with 11-12% rating is far from successful in Korea, and most of their dramas are in that range.

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  51. It's average rating was far from 20%. It was not a big hit no matter how much you try to convince yourselves.

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  52. When SSH and PMY can act better than Jaejoong who acted only in his second drama project in Korea..............please come back and speak then. And JJ hasn't even taken a lead role yet......he doesn't think he is qualified enough to take one yet =______= But, they and ifans always mock his acting as though he has been taking lead roles right and left.



    Seriously it is not the dudes fault he ends up being talked about so much. He is a magnet for good and bad thoughts. Everyone HAS to have an opinion about him. ugh.



    The worst part about Dr. Jin, besides the writer and director, was the main leads. If LBS was the lead and they worked the political story more instead of the 'loveline' with two crappy 'actors' it would have done much better.


    But, as a drama fan..........I also think JJ has much room for improvement. But that mostly has to do with him controlling his body movements better and starting the drama well instead of taking about 3 episodes to get used to his character. After he gets used to the character he always does well and improves by each episode drastically.

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  53. well they were, but nevertheless they are idols.
    beside there are also Eun Ji Won and the movie itself is so idol-ish with H.O.T and all, it's about them so you can expect some cameos.

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  54. All of their are more than 12% and ever if they are at 10% this is stll way better than your bias.




    Nationwide// Seoul

    PTB: 14.1% // 17.2%
    Dr Jin: 12.8% //14.2%




    Rooftop_Prince : 14.9% // 16.2%
    Sungkyunkwan Scandal: 13.3 // 13.2

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  55. what about Eunji ?

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  56. Mad because JYJ dramas are success while your bias are flop?

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  57. well there's always the struggle to get INTO the company, so many people fail on that one too

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  58. you mean jaejoong and yoochun coz junsu don't act. and yoochun wasn't the best but also not lame. if the drama HE IN IT get 11%-12% rating that drama is not lame or bad..

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  59. please by ssh and pmy you don't mean song seung hun and park min young.. PLEASE.

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  60. song seung hun can't act..

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  61. delusional fans are well delusional.

    Out of the 15 or so idol dramas about 2 maybe 3 hit daebak. Thats a low proportion dont ya think?

    idols do not equal ratings never has never will.

    idols should stick to singing since thats their effing job acting is just a side thing for them whereas rookie actors thats their livilihood that their dream. if an idols dream was to be an actor than frigging damn debut as an actor instead of a singer.

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  62. I don't know about UEE work before but as I am watching both IMY and JWC now, I have to say YC is better than UEE.

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    1. i will say both are good... they do deserve their lead roles.. and the good thing is they chose projects which requires them to take on a different personality from their previous ones. somehow we can really see their range.. besides both of them got praises for their acting in their recent drama

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  63. Tell me how many dramas can hit 20% nowadays? LOL if you think there are many then you dunno anything about Kdrama land now. With actors, many drama barely hit 10%, some of them are even in 6-8% range. Rating over 10% now can be called decent.

    People that have enough free time to hate here can do nothing to pull some certain idols' dramas' rating down. So they complain? Most of normal people who have big part in rating are busy with their daily lives. There are some certain idols that can act better than many actors. And to say idols can help the rating is wrong too. Many idols who have large fanbase can barely cover 6% of the nation viewers. Some certain idols carried main leads in drama and hit 12%-14% range and their dramas were super popular in public.

    Comments on Nate cant say anything about public reaction on certain things. There are idols that are recognized by public as good actor or at least, people (not fans) are excited to watch their dramas. That is why certain idols like YC have their dramas beating big names as rival and took no 1 in their time slot. Rating of a drama also depends on the slot as well, if a drama has to compete with big names, rating is not gonna be so high. However as long as they beat dramas of big names, it definitely means sth.

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  64. sometimes other elements need to be considered such as onscreen chemistry and the story. If the story is not so good then even with Idols it will flop as well as the chemistry. Yoona and that JGS didn't have chemistry at all same with Suzy and Goong Yoo.

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  65. It is indeed unfair and I agree that they should start out smaller. But if that's where the shoe pinches, people should be mature enough to limit themselves with those complaints instead of making bizarre and unfounded statements. Actors attempting singing gets the same privilege, even if they suck ass.

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  66. The only reason those dramas can sell so high is because they're catering to the fans of Korean idols.


    Obviously.


    Mary Stayed Out All Night flopped hard, but because there are no idols in that drama, it didn't sell to many countries overseas. Unlike the clusterfuck that was Playful Kiss.


    Playful Kiss sold well purely because people like to look at Kim Hyun Joong. And that fact alone is really, really sad. For people to like a so-called actor, not because he can act, but because he's attractive? What a waste.

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  67. Have u watch Dr.Jin? they were horrible in it >.< I like them but was seriously disappointed in their acting

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  68. Or sometimes idols just don't cut it at all.


    Yes. Let's all be delusional Sones and blame the writers. Nevermind the fact that Yoona was a complete dead fish on screen. Jang Geun Suk is famous for his chemistry with female leads in all of his dramas, but Yoona the hailed "goddess of kpop" couldn't even meet him halfway. Not even a quarter of the way.

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  69. The only one getting criticized for being a shitty actor was Yoona. LOL.


    Up until about the second episode, people were like, "Oh... maybe it'll be good because the plot is interesting but realistic." And then people just stopped watching.

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  70. If those K-Netizens could see all of the comments these stupid fangirls are leaving because they're justifying oppar and unnir's shitty acting... they would track all of you down and tell you to "GTFO you fucking foreigner you don't understand anything about Korea".


    Lol.


    I'm half-hoping it actually happens.

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  71. one horrible production doesn't mean they're bad, beside that plot was really awful.

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  72. ugh
    i hate those fucking idols who can't fucking act but get main roles in drama

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  73. Yes the production was bad...but unfortunately so was their acting.. I was surprise since I had just came from watching how wonderful PMY was in City Hunter but she was just really flat in Dr.Jin..
    And I agree with what you say that 'one production doesn't mean they're bad'..but then it would mean they're inconsistent with their acting or myb they had just picked the wrong roles..who know..

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  74. You should watch Ojakgyo Brothers. She was great in that.

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  75. lol, how many episodes of love did you watch? You probably only watch the 4 episodes that took place in the 1970s. Yoona and Jang Geun Suk had a lot of chemistry.

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  76. it's not just korean ratings though, the producers can sell these shows to china and japan etc and still end up with a greater profit than dramas in korea with higher ratings. The 'it started with a kiss' remake with the boy from ss501 was a ratings flop but made tons of money in overseas licensing

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  77. My issue isn't so much idol actors but rookie idol actors in LEAD freaking roles. I don't have time to watch you learn how to act. Put experienced actors in the leads and let the idols do some side characters till they get their feet wet a bit.

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  78. Do you keep track of kdramas ratings? If you do, you would know that getting neared, or over 20% means you strike gold in these days and age. Here http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Category:Ratings you can go there and check it out for yourself how many dramas, from 2006 - 2012 got itself over 20%. Good luck, cause it's rare, even with non idol actors.

    Also, you specifically ask for a 'well' drama with rating over 20% starring an idol, that's overreaching considering that, 'well' in kdrama rating of the last 6 years is 12-15%. 15-20% is hit, over 20% is major hit. The nation drama for SK is over 30%. And you get one a year. Not many can get that high in rating, even with big name actors in it.

    Though those dramas aren't hit, they did 'well'. They don't have poor ratings, no matter how much you try to convince yourself.

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  79. sad but true. in the end of the day all investors care about is getting the highest return for their investment.

    they don't care if the actor can act or if the story is well written, they just looking at how much money they can gain.

    also mary stayed out all night is good example that having a good cast isn't everything, jang geun suk, moon geun young, kim jae wook, they are non-idols and good actors yet the drama flop anyway. this shows that in the end even if they don't hire an idol, a drama can still flop.

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  80. Rooftop Prince nationwide/seoul rating is 12.1% / 14.1%

    http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Rooftop_Prince/Episode_Ratings

    SKKS rating

    http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Sungkyunkwan_Scandal/Episode_Ratings

    Where did you get those inflated numbers?

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  81. lord. are you really comparing struggling artists to teenagers with no talent who audition for idol companies?

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  82. Am i say use actor will guarantee rating? Even the most popular one.. No..

    I said the story the one guarantee rating..

    And yes i DID say.. "I agree about the part, yes use idol especially the popular one can secure investment or overseas broadcast sale"



    So i dont see why u against my point? You just stated what i already said..

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  83. I can't even remember any actors attempting to sing..

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  84. Netizen's reaction does have something to do with the public reaction. People hardly ever watch dramas featuring idols, except Reply 1997 and old Boys over flowers, and neither do the netizens. Those who watch them may bring up the ratings but it's mostly the idols fans who are in their tweens, of which age group doesnt have power to drive the public opinion.

    Also dramas with ratings between 12-14% are not popular. For a drama to be regarded as widely acknowledged, it has to be at least around 23%. For one to be dubbed a national drama, it has to hit 40%.

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  85. In Iris TOP's scenes are rare. I know cos I'm his fans & I watch Iris just to see him. Beside his acting in Iris still pretty awful.

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  86. Lee Junki, Jang Geunsuk, I don't remember who else. Does Lee Donggun count?

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  87. Song Joongki and Hyun Bin too. Hyun Bin was actually pretty decent, though.

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  88. You do realize Jaejoong's dramas get higher ratings though, right?

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  89. I didn't comment as a reflection of his acting. The other poster just wanted 5 dramas with a 20% average rating and featured an idol actor in a larger role.


    For me, a reoccurring role is a fine guage. TOP's acting might not have been great but it wasn't so horrible that it put off people from watching the drama, like some people feel idols seem to do.

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  90. Aside from people mentioned below me...

    God of Study
    Goong
    Ojakgyo Brothers
    Full House
    Lights and Shadows
    Save the last dance for me
    Baker King

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  91. Goong Yoo, Yoo Seung Ho

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  92. you serious? Plot is important, but having GOOD actors to execute that plot is even more important because those actors make the story BELIEVABLE.

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  93. Idols should only be able to get roles in dramas and movies if they're GOOD at acting. Uee is an amazing actress so you can't really complain about her being in dramas.

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  94. Sorry, but you're a bit wrong here. With these dramas that you've listed it wasn't the idol actors who were the problem. These shows flopped because the writing was bad:


    Love Rain - very slow-paced and predictable.
    To The Beautiful You - illogical situations and extremely naive characters.
    Fashion King - unlikable characters, ridiculous plot and a bad ending. Even Lee Je Hoon and Yoon Ah In, who are very decent actors, couldn't save this show.
    Big - illogical, without depth and a WTF ending. In no way Suzy's fault it flopped.
    Dream High 2 (Dream High 1 was quite well-received if you don't rememeber) - unlikable chracters, who made illogical decisions. Huge plot holes caused by constant changes in the writing, and an unsatisfying ending.
    Heartstrings - slow-paced and uneventful.
    Playful Kiss - slow-paced and uneventful.


    There are plenty of shows with a good cast that still don't do well. Like somebody mentioned, Mary Stayed Out All Night or Cinderella's Sister. Also, just because the drama has low rating doesn't necessarily mean that it's bad in general. There are so many reasons for a drama to score low ratings, even a bad time slot can cause a drama to flop, so it's kind of naive to put the blame entirely on idol actors, who oftentimes aren't even in the centre of the story.

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  95. yeah im serious. i still dont care about the actors.i dont care about them making the story believable, its a story and i can understand it just fine. what annoys me most of the time is characterizations than actors themselves.

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  96. but Suzy is not the female lead OMG....it's Lee Min Jung.

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