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Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Hello new readers!

I've noticed an influx of new readers in the New Year and I think there's some confusion as to what this blog is about and how to interpret some of the content being provided here.

First and foremost, I've heard your concerns. You're right, not every single best reply is a reflection of the majority opinion or all of Korea, etc, and I don't think they should ever be interpreted as such. The purpose of this blog is to show that these opinions - whether or not they reflect the general opinion of Korea, AND whether or not you agree with them - are what is driving the media and the industry.

It doesn't matter if the majority of Korea doesn't care about a certain artist but the best rated comments in an article do because the netizens in the best rated comments are the voices being heard by the industry.

I often felt like international fans heard about things last and controversies seemingly flew out of no where for them when there is a direct source to all of it.

The media wouldn't have released a hundred articles about the controversy surrounding SNSD's new song and the girls wouldn't have even had to answer to them if netizens never made a fuss over it in the comments. Would articles about Rain's career potentially being over have ever been released if netizens didn't care? Who starts these controversies? Netizens do. Where? In the comments. The media picks up on netizen sentiment and companies act on it accordingly.

Do you see what I'm getting at?

The content in this blog isn't meant as ammo for you to use to bash other fandoms in the everlasting WHO'S BETTER war that is the K-Pop industry. It's purely just meant as supplemental information for those that are interested in and are curious about how these controversies come about.

If anything, use this blog as a secondary source along with your daily reads like allkpop. I think allkpop and Netizen Buzz represent two very extreme parts of the spectrum - allkpop on the positive end, Netizen Buzz on the negative end. Meet somewhere in the middle to interpret and form your own opinions.

149 comments:

  1. Leave IU alone you asshole!!

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    1. boooo youuu! get a fucking life! And pls not here. Booo you whore!

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    2. An example of "the influx of new readers".
      Back then everything was more tame and not so critical.

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  2. Keep doing your thing and ignore the haters that flood the comment section. You're doing a great job!

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  3. Stay pressed! :D

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  4. Love the site, you are doing a great job, and provide us with useful information.

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  5. Exhibit A: A butthurt user that posts a comment that seemingly has nothing to do with the article written.

    More exhibits to come shortly.

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  6. Thanks for your blog, it's fascinating and I'm so glad you are willing to do what you do. And yes, I am a new reader.

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  7. I love this site and it's interesting and amusing to read netizens opnions, although I don't take them seriously.

    I just would like this site to keep on being free from fandom wars and this kind of bs bc it's annoying. I hope these ppl let the fangirling on allkpop and just comment when they truly have something to add.

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  8. Can you explain to us why you choose to translate the comments from Nate and not Naver please?

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  9. Another great post from NB :)

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  10. I disagree, not everyone wants to identify themselves and not all the anonymous comments are being posted by trolls and actually some of them have interesting things to say.

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  11. Been following the since its creation but I would like to add a suggestion concerning the format of the site. When you scroll through older posts all you see is the TIME it was posted, not the date. I'm the type of person who likes knowing when blog posts have been made

    Thanks and NB has really prospered!

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  12. Great post, hope everyone gets to read it! Some very confused noobies up in here lately thinking NB is an anti site lmao.

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  13. There are some non anons who are just as troll-ish, too.

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  14. Even if I tend to participate in those fanwars I usually regret it, lol. It'd be nice if those type of things would stay in allkpop.

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  15. True, I always see ShihonoRyo posting stupid comments on IU's articles, lol.

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  16. Been following your blog since the infamous and potentially tramatizing T-ara scandal, and I still check everyday for new updates. Keep up the good work!

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  17. lol Why? You're the best example of someone who has an account (more than one account in your situation) and use it to talk shit all the time. A lot of anons have much better things to say than you so instead of disable anons, I suggest you + your other accounts get banned, so we can get a more mature and interesting comment section.

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  18. But I am not hiding behind guest or anon accounts.

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  19. Bann is useless. It takes 5 minutes to find a workaround.

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  20. LOL You're the one shittalking all the fucking time, hypocrite

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  21. There is no difference between a troll who hides and one who doesn't hide on the internet.

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  22. But I like to know who I reply to.

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  23. I'm replying to you and I still don't know who you are..

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  24. NB your'e an absolute boss of a human being. Brilliant.

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  25. So do you, most of the things you say are utter rubbish that you pulled out of your ass.

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  26. Does anyone here go to http://www.koreabang.com/ ? They post Netizen comments and stuff, too~~~


    I come here for my idol/actor/actress news and I go there for everything else.

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  27. You're right. it's funny how some people think that having an account makes them more "cool" or "honest" than anons. We're all anons on the internet, account or not is the same since we don't know each other. No reason to disable anons in this website. The +1 and -1 system is already stupid enough so disabling anons will just make this website die from the boring comment sections.

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  28. Yeah the -/+ is so pointless and it's one way fanwars can be manipulated. That's one thing I wish NB would get rid of but it's on nearly every site I visit now, so I doubt they will anytime soon. But yeah, we're all anons, anyone can spend 3 minutes signing up for an account lol

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  29. Been following your blog for awhile now. I rarely comment but I enjoy reading netizens' opinions. And I hope the trolls and immature people on this site do leave if they have nothing logical to add to this site. Let's keep it classy people! :)

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  30. snsd fans love to brag that snsd is the best and most loved in korea. good to know that this isnt actually the case.

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  31. did you copy the idea for this site from koreabang.com ?

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  32. Thank you netizenbuzz for everything!

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  33. Please, don't stop doing this blog! I love it, hahaha you have haters, you're like a celebrity XD and I am your fan, so please thank you for your job, you must have other things to do but you entertain us with you blog
    and I hope you'll get more readers

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  34. not everyone has substance. i've seen someone reply to themselves here trying to use a different username but forgot. maybe you should look into banning obvious trolls. hope theyre not smart enough to bypass it.

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  35. I can make 3-4 accounts it wouldn't change anything. It also wont change that ShihonoRyo is one sad and lonely little cunt. :)

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  36. lol rubbish.. what a fag...

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  37. Exhibit B: Jenny attempts to teach trolls about the rules of the internet.
    (LOL dumb bitch)

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  38. would you ever put up netizens comments about western celebs/articles...i'm always curious what they think

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  39. Well can't that be said for most popular groups? Big Bang gets shitted on multiple time here. So does IU and Suzy. And 2NE1... from what I've seen unless it's Bom or Dara they're pretty much irrelevant. It's not just SNSD who gets shafted.

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  40. That's def more what the general public focuses on 23+ not really Kpop related so I doubt anybody here would care about what Koreans are actually interested in if it doesn't include oppa and unnie. But I enjoy that site as well, though the misogyny is STRONG in the comments. REALLY STRONG.

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  41. netizenbuzz.master is a Homin fan and ELF.

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  42. anonymoose, your are the crap of this site.

    people is tired about your stupid comments about many artists.

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  43. idk those people you mentioned get shitted on for their personal lives, not their music. Korea loves snsd but the response to IGAB was not very good.. or at least not as good as sones want you to think. (I still can't believe they compared the song to Bohemian Rhapsody.. that takes a certain level of delusion)

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  44. It was the Los Angeles Times music critic who compared IGAB to Bohemian Rhapsody. I don't think he's a delusional sone

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  45. The korean netizens trolls are in Nate.

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  46. well he's definitely smoking something

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  47. ok no need for the f word

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  48. b better if they translate the article

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  49. Yep someone warn the feminists not to go cry in there.

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  50. I'm a JYJ fan...........and even though you posted that 'post' I still read the posts on your site. It is like breaths of fresh air........from just reading praise all the time like on allkpoop.

    I will continue reading your posts. Thank you for creating this blog ^_____^

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  51. And reader comments are worse. Nothing but trolls.

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  52. Nate was on the backburner for me (I'm personally a fan of Naver) until they acquired Cyworld a few years ago, which is the equivalent to something like Google acquiring Facebook, and synced all of the accounts together, basically making Nate the portal with the largest active userbase in Korea.

    Naver is known for search related things (the best comparison I can think of is when you google a question and go to Yahoo! questions/answers to see what other people think) and blogs while Daum is used more for fan/cafe communities. Nate is the first portal to combine everything into one platform with things like their Pann community - no fuss, no membership, just an open forum for all interests and people.

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  53. I'll change the settings now! Thanks :)

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  54. You'd be surprised! People were shocked, and I mean SHOCKED, when Koreans overseas had to explain that Justin Bieber is seen as a joke here. Netizens legit thought he was a famous musician everyone respected.

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  55. Thanks! The comment section is something I always struggle with.

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  56. Koreabang wasn't on my radar until after I started up NB. I had a mini-NB going on on my Twitter for my friends until I decided to just spread it out because there was enough interest for it. I definitely direct some of my readers to Koreabang when they request for non-entertainment related perspectives!

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  57. While I love and appreciate all of my readers, I have a certain level of respect for readers from fandoms like yours that are constantly thrown under the bus here (including VIPs, IU fans, etc) but still see through the purpose of the blog. Thanks for sticking around <3

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  58. Yeah, I have seen one too many times where people use netizen comments as a weapon against other fandoms. Totally not fair!

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  59. Thanks for the support! I do get a lot of messages from lurkers saying the blog is a guilty pleasure for them. I agree! Sometimes best replies are downright hilarious :)

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  60. I have a feeling peace might be a little hard of a goal to aim for this year!

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  61. I still get the occasional message from a distressed fan asking why I'm so hateful, haha.

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  62. I recognize you from Twitter! Good to see you here :)

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  63. Keep doing a great job bc I LOVE THIS WEBSITE.

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  64. You should continue translating comments on JYJ/TVXQ articles and just say "fuck off" to those who want to dictate what you can and cannot speak on.

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  65. Anonymous commenters are almost universally useless. If they can't make an effort to create a fake Facebook/Twitter/Whatever account, you don't want to hear what they have to say anyway.

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  66. I really love this blog and hope this post doesn't have anything to do with the comment I made about the thoughts of netizens not being the thoughts of koreans.
    I was just trying to make a point and no way intended to criticize this blog.
    I really appreciate this as it's not only hilarious but reduces my stress exponentially LOL I go here every day right before study :)

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  67. I wonder what koreans think about certain western celebritites,like the fanning sisters who were over there recently. Would you consider doing a series about this? There are bound to be many articles around this award season

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  68. She won't say her real fandom.. the idol will gain haters for sure.

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  69. And the site need more variety.
    there are many popular actors, actresses, idols, MCs.
    post more please, thanks.

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  70. Hi NB, I've been here since you started, and I like the non corporate interpretation of your site. It doesn't feel as if things are manipulated by waving of dollars to write blogs in a positive light to where some artists simply don't deserve it. It's like you're a beacon in a sea of fake truths out there. There's a lot of media play out there, and because INTERNATIONAL FANS of Kpop are left in the dark from translation, of course their opinions would widely differ, this is how many kpop groups can continue to promote outside of Korea, because In'tl fans have wool over their eyes (Language barrier).

    Anyways, can i suggest something? A lot of your articles are considered "response." However, without enough translation to the original article that instigated this "response," sometimes i'm completely left in the dark about why/what i should be reacting to. Not all the time i don't figure it out but there is still a lot of them. Perhaps put a synopsis on the top? I do realize some for some them you do though.

    Even without it, you've done a lot and I thank you for the news.

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  71. I'm a fan of this blog and I would like to say I appreciate your efforts! I can read and understand korean but I go here for the pleasure of reading international fans' comments on netizen's comments (does that make sense lol)
    I'm also a dbsk and jyj fan and i hope you still continue to translate articles regarding them?
    Anyway, thanks~! ^^

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  72. A multi-account sockpuppet troll like you complaining about guests and anon commenting is fucking hilarous. You're a bigger troll and general douchebag than any anon I've ever seen post here.

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  73. where are the T-ara, BAP, Infinite, Secret and B1A4 dumps?

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  74. kissing netizenbuzz's ass XD

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  75. here comes the ass kissing

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  76. no wonder there are no BLOCK B posts :/

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  77. idk how we have the same name, lol, but she's posted articles of Block B being ripped to shreds before.

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  78. lol why should someone waste time making a fake account just to comment on a damn site? I'll repeat, and you just proved my example that non anon comments contain equally dumb shit.

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  79. she posted few articles of them, the majority are positive dumps...

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  80. Homin maybe ..ELF don't think so
    but she will keep saying she's only a block B fan and people here love here "neutral"observation ( I loved that shit) so it's all good .

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  81. Even if I wanted to somehow be extremely biased and present Block B in the best light ever and say everyone loves them no matter what!!!! It'd be like - WHO ARE YOU KIDDING, NB?! lol.. No one would believe it for a second. They are in scandal after scandal after scandal after scandal.. Even I'm losing track!

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  82. you are doing fine netizen buzz....plz don't change anything while minor modifications like date are ok but plz don't change to please others that will take the blog far from it's original purpose of serving as an honest voice of netizen......post facts as it is as you are doing previously......all the best from my side!

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  83. Feel free to shoot me an e-mail if you're curious about topics I don't talk about on the blog!

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  84. Thanks for the suggestions and encouragement! I always try to wait for any of the bigger sources like allkpop or soompi to post translations before I post up the responses so that readers have an idea of what's going on.. but sometimes I'm in a rush for class and don't have time to wait around all day for it so I put it up anyway and hope that allkpop posts it soon after. It's definitely a gamble with time! I'll try to include synopses more often when I definitely know I'm the first source.

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  85. Haha no, of course! I see your point and enjoy reading your comments around the blog. A name I do recognize!

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  86. well I do see people ( in other sites) saying they now like your blog because you're anti (who ever they think you hate) and all .
    but I don't know how much you would like that thought.

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  87. Oh, ok!
    tbh there are very few times when the things you post contain subjective thoughts, and when you do it doesn't appear hateful at all :-D

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  88. you've done a great job NB :D
    keep up the good work and just ignore the haters...
    i've been your follower since this blog at wordpress. i also realized that somehow people are taking these top rated comments as a real thing... but for me, i like to check it myself through all the other comments at the article. some are just simply trolling or join the hate bandwagon. sorta no different with AKP with trolls here and there.... but all and all, it's a good read... some are funny.... some really provide their genuine thoughts and some are just pure hate. it's up to reader on how to consume and make up a conclusion through it.
    thanks NB for all your hard work ^^

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  89. wow, thanks! much appreciated. Don't be surprised if some odd months from now that Int'l Netizen comments become unified with the Koreans opinions all thanks to your site ;)

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  90. Thanks for all the great work you're doing, as well as all of your attempts to be neutral. As the only K-entertainment news translator that I know of, you have a lot of power in your hands but you aren't abusing it either.

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  91. I wanted to ask, what is the best way to contact you now? Tumblr ask box or email? I remember you mentioned that you checked tumblr every day a while back but planned on checking email more?

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  92. Yes! NB should not let those crazies from JYJ3 dictate what can and cannot be posted. I want to hear about my oppas regardless if its good and bad. Some fans just need to grow up and not take everything so seriously.

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  93. I check both every day now! Anything casual, you can tweet it to me... I don't answer anonymous asks on Tumblr but I do read all of them. If you want a personal reply from me, definitely e-mail!

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  94. All the way from wordpress! Good to have you still here with me. :)

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  95. With all of these new readers, I'm definitely trying to stay level headed about it... I will continue to go about as I always have since day one :)

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  96. "you have a lot of power in your hands but you aren't abusing it either"
    LMAO .... so much LOL in one comment .

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  97. i love this site too!
    reading k-netizens' comments makes me LOL sometimes..!
    Keep up the good work!
    oh yeah..i'm a BBC too..*cheers*

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  98. No thanks. The drama that came from that was ridiculous and starting up JYJ / TVXQ posts will just fuel the fanwar again. I know NB promised JYJ fans he wouldn't post about JYJ/TVXQ again so its just best to keep to that promise and not stir up crap just 'cause some people want to enjoy the drama fest.

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  99. Another suggestion: could you include the original Korean text of the comment in a tooltip, like they do on koreaBANG? It's useful for those of us who are learning Korean.

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  100. Yeah it does suck for me to read endless bashing on T-ara, IU, GD etc just because it's a drag to see netizens single out targets for spurious nothingy reasons especially ones with such good music, but I know who's really doing the bashing and it's not you. I'm glad it's someone well-meaning like yourself striving to bring us this information instead of the dickheads that it potentially COULD be in the blogosphere, who may then serve to twist things etc. I don't like it how other sites are not honest about netizen comments, and I've seen a decent amount of cutdown in the outright lying about netizen perception of events that certain news sites have been doing since this blog became popular. You are providing a valuable service to all fandoms, regardless of what netizens may think of the respective artists.

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  101. i don't see the point in translating cause according to nb, jyj fans are liking the positive comments and down-voting the negative ones. so the best reply is positive comment. thus making sure any jyj related articles have a positive best reply comment. then according to nb, jyj fans are writing and voting up negative comments on tvxq articles. so yea, i don't see the point.

    though now that i think about it what is the difference. every fan does it. leave a positive comment about their bias and vote up the comments they like and down vote the ones they don't like.

    being a huge fan of hyuna, i can say that most comments are always coming from her antis and some of those antis are gain fans. always saying how gain is classy and hyuna is slut. dont approve of the hate/antis behavior but still i dont see the difference from what regular fans do almost everyday.

    to me, it just seem like jyj fans are just good at combating the negative comments.

    ah my poor hyuna, antis always going to every single article about her to express how much they don't like her. some of them i recognize from the previous articles. like okay i get it, they hate hyuna, why must they repeat themselves in every single hyuna article. aish antis should stop it but meh what can u do. they won't stop.

    didn't mean to ramble, peace n love

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  102. A name I do recognize! I've just been getting a lot of messages from new readers/confused people asking if this is a hate blog, etc....don't worry netizenbuzz sooner and later they are going to understand it is honest voice of netizens and truth is presented as it is on this blog...don't worry and carry on your work as the truth makes it own way....all the best for this year.......

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  103. LOL look who's talking I just checked your comment and all you do is bitch and hate on anyone. How dares a wannabe troll like you calling me a troll.

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  104. wondering why there'r so much nb haters here. if you dont like it just leave. as simple as that. *sigh*

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  105. Any update on Block B's case? The problem with their company?

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  106. //pat pat//
    It's okay, NB, it's okay. xD

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  107. How about we all link our disqus accounts to our facebooks right oppars?

    So we can literally insult each other knowing what we look like ^^

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  108. Oppar is also a BBC? Holy wow, i seriously loved to learn that.

    Btw i'm sad that there are so few After School and Exid articles.
    Is it true that Exid's company does cheap media play like Kim Sori's company and bashed for that?

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  109. I never troll this blog

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  110. But you do on AllKpop... does that not count because it's on another site?

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  111. Don't ruin a good site.

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  112. I wonder how they will react when they hear about #cutforbieber. The crazy fangirls aren't only located in Korea.

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  113. As a T-ara fan, it sure wasn't easy to come back to this site at first. However, my curiosity got the better of me:p

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  114. Good music? ROFL
    many people think their music is nothing special, specially in T-ara and Gdragon's case.

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  115. can't believe there are 0 articles of them

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  116. lol I had a disqus account but quit using it because I was tired of getting stupid comments in my email.

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  117. Is that your problem?
    You can disable the email notification so you won't have to deal with thos =)).

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  118. isn't the same with the hypocrites? I mean the international fans who think kpop and their opparrss are the most important things for everyone in Korea

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  119. Omggg can you please do that?? It would be soo cool^^

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  120. You are like, the best of the best! please keep up with this blog! with your recent post I laughed so hard!! <3 really love this site! :D

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  121. I tried but had login problems.. maybe I'll try in the future.

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  122. There are, just 'no 1 curr' enough to vote them up, I guess not even the fans.

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  123. I like how you came back to this article several days later just to hate on comments praising NB.

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  124. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion about music. A lot of people like it though. These people wouldn't have such big fanbases if the music was widely regarded as nothing special.

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  125. and I like how you think that someone with a blog has power over you.
    LOL ..your Sense of inferiority to a Korean speaker is comical.
    keep it up please I love it .

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  126. @NetizenBuzz:disqus can you please do something about this openly racist troll @manymanycutesy:disqus ban them or at least give them a warning or something? they have to possibly the worst user on this website. Please respond.

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  127. Well, you can't deny that the person giving information readers otherwise would not have access to does not have power. Might as well admit it and thank NB for trying to keep it as objective as possible, though nothing like this can ever be perfectly objective.

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  128. no not really .. she didn't really say anything I haven't already heard before in k-pop forums .. you maybe thunderstruck and think you can't know things like this if the powerful Netizenbuzz doesn't come and tell you about it with her oh so objective views .... but good for you anyway.
    I will thank her though for giving me a good time from reading the nonsense in the comments here .
    Netizenbuzz hwaiting~

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  129. Yeah, what possible experience would I have in monitoring a community on a website?


    Why should somebody waste time? To show they want to make an effort to be a part of the community and not just troll like a dipshit.


    You're completely delusional if you think the amount of trolls on sites that don't allow anonymous commenting are the same as those that do.


    Making it easier to hit-and-run is just pointless.

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  130. you also send email for me infornation about dbsk and suju ??/ my email : kyumin0302@gmail.com

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