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Thursday, January 31, 2013

2012 Seoul Music Awards: General


Article: 'Seoul Music Awards' Psy wins Daesang... 'digital' SISTAR - 'album' GD [compilation]

Source: OSEN via Naver

1. [+620, -50] Psy couldn't make the ceremony and yet they still gave him the daesang while Busker Busker wasn't given the same perk when it's obvious they deserve the rookie award over whoever those EXO BAP kids are. I genuinely thought Busker Busker, Lee Hi, and Ailee should win the three rookie awards. They're the absolute winners.

2. [+502, -47] I'm just glad Suju didn't win the daesang ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

3. [+501, -49] I'm satisfied with all of the awards, just not the rookie award. What has EXO-K honestly accomplished this year... ㅡㅡ

4. [+460, -42] All of the awards went to the right people except the rookie awards. Lee Hi and Ailee deserve it but BAP and EXO? What the hell are they? What about Busker? If Psy was eligible to receive the daesang despite his non-appearance, it doesn't make any sense that Busker didn't receive anything considering that they ruled the entire first half of the year while Psy ruled the second half.

5. [+438, -35] EXO-K obviously won thanks to their company power;;; Nobody even knew who they were

6. [+381, -56] Those Suju kids came out all the way last and was the only group to sing three songs in a row on top of promoting their damn new Chinese song. SISTAR came out with a new song that same day and didn't promote it so blatantly like that. All of these award ceremonies are just big bragging rights for SM artists to claim their songs are popular when it's really just thanks to fans bulk buying them.

7. [+323, -23] Psy should've won the Hallyu award too ㅋㅋㅋ

8. [+357, -77] In the end, YG was the solution

9. [+301, -29] What's EXO-K??

10. [+316, -56] The worst singers of our country are Super Junior, don't you all agree?

11. [+272, -19] Where's Leessang?

12. [+265, -26] I already knew SM would be claiming the ending stage

13. [+255, -47] Why did Suju win Hallyu?....

14. [+221, -19] This award ceremony was the fairest by far, it's just disappointing that they didn't give Busker a rookie awardㅜ Congratulations to everyone else, especially Psy and GD!!!

15. [+216, -29] I'll never understand how SISTAR won over Busker Busker in digital sales. I understand Psy's daesang, but come on...

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Article: Psy wins daesang at the Seoul Music Awards, a complete sweep of the Korean music ceremonies (compilation)

Source:
Newsen via Nate

1. [+210, -52] Although I knew Psy would rightfully win.... I was a bit scared in case it was Suju considering the ceremony was a bit of an SM party...

2. [+117, -5] Congrats Psy

3. [+122, -16] Son Ye Jin totally all killed the idols at the end with her beauty... There's definitely something different about the top four goddesses of Korea

4. [+34, -14] If they're giving out awards even if they don't attend the ceremony, why didn't Busker Busker receive anything? The least they deserve is a rookie award

5. [+24, -3] Busker Busker should've won over EXO-K

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297 comments:

  1. 8. [+357, -77] In the end, YG was the solution

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  2. 10. [+316, -56] The worst singers of our country are Super Junior, don't you all agree?

    But K.R.Y are not bad singers.

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  3. i agree, exo-k didn't deserve to win the rookie award. they've only come out with one mini-album that wasn't even good.

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  4. a group of 13 members where only 3 people can sing? lol embarrassing

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  5. btw i know that there are not 13 members now

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  6. How many are there? 11? 12?

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  7. I love the netizens hate for sm artists.. looovee it. I'm so tired of them and their mediocre-ness. even nugu groups >> sm groups.

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  8. 13. [+255, -47] Why did Suju win Hallyu?....


    I was wondering this. Howcome this didn't go to KARA or DBSK??

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  9. K-netizens. SIgh.
    Though I agree, I tohught Busker Busker would win at least something, but that doesn't mean they have to bash on those who won. Geez.

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  10. shouldn't it go to psy.. aka the person who had the worldwide hit this year.

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  11. They don't hate all SM artists. A good chunk of Netizens really love SNSD and SHINee.


    They just don't like Super Junior or EXO because both groups receive more attention and awards than they deserve. EXO didn't accomplish anything this year and neither did Super Junior, yet somehow they're getting awards and the longest performances out of everyone else...


    Of course Netizens are gonna be like, "WTF?"

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  12. SME is a company netizens just like to hate on, some reasons are justified some are just laughable same goes for SJ.....


    But how was it a SM party?
    YG: 2NE1, BB, Lee Hi 7 Epik High
    SME: SJ, Shinee, F(x) Exo-K


    Looks about balanced to me.....

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  13. i feel bad because SJ KRY are good singers, and talented, but only because they are in Super Junior, they receive hate :( i wonder what would've happened if only 3 of them had debuted as a group...

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  14. He already won the Daesang though, which is the biggest award. If we were gonna be really honest, PSY should've won more than just the Daesang but awards shows generally don't let one act sweep awards like they do in the Grammys because there are so few categories and so many singers and idols.

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  15. I'm talking about the hate for their music. which is totally justified tbh.

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  16. K.R.Y are the best but that doesn't mean they're the only ones. But it's true that the ratio of those who are good/those who aren't is only like 5/5.

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  17. But they did have high album sales. It doesn't reflect at all what the public likes, but sales are sales.

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  18. SJ win Hallyu because

    Super Junior gained 27.1% of the votes in the United States to rank #1. f(x) followed with 11.5%, and F.T. Island with 10.9%. Super Junior proved their huge popularity as they ranked #1 in 10 other countries, including Australia, Thailand, Saudi Arabia, England, France, Germany, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, and Argentina. They had the most overall #1 rankings.

    http://www.allkpop.com/2013/01/which-idol-groups-are-the-most-popular-by-country

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  19. More than 3 can sing (i think 6 or 7) but those 3 (KRY) can outshine majority of top "idol" singers and that's a fact......

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  20. 13. [+255, -47] Why did Suju win Hallyu?....
    well excuse me K-netizen. I'm not a fan of SJ but Sorry Sorry definitely brought me and thousands like me. You might not like SJ but that doesn't change the fact SJ is SUPER popular even if they are not that good singers.

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  21. Then maybe KRY should just ditch the other members. xP

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  22. For Exo-K their album sales helped them alot.....But left to me neither Exo-K or BAP would win anything in any award show and if i would let one slide in it would be EXO-k cos they have high sales numbers backing them while BAP only has high numbers of promotional cycle......

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  23. you have to realize that the public is only familiar with them through their singles. they're not going to look up vids of kry singing or whatever.

    songs like sexy single whatever and bonermania are not good ways to show off their singing

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  24. Fuck this, Busker are always screwed because of EXO or BAP, even though they rightfully deserve that award.

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  25. He wont be once he has three + groups with the same style.

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  26. ...seriously where is Ailee's rookie award?! :(
    And I was shocked when Busker Busker didn't won an award. They have high digital and high album sales.

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  27. ... why would it go to Kara?

    I'm not sure if everyone's caught some bug or something, but what's with the denial that Suju is one of the leaders of the Hallyu wave? I thought this was a well known fact....

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  28. Well Busker Busker have high album sales and high digital sales AND the public likes them more.

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  29. so what is this? a 2009 award ceremony?

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  30. I doubt anyone knows what the new girl group's style will be, even if they're under YG.


    I have a feeling it won't be the usual 'YG style'

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  31. ...I like SuJu and I'm not hating on them BUT this list is a joke.

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  32. did you read only the first line ?
    Super Junior indeed lead the Hallyu internationally either in 2009 or now. Face it ~

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  33. seriously,i dunno why people asking bout suju won the halyu wave,i agree with psy should get halyu wave also,but in my country kids n almost all teen only know suju n shinee,i dun say their music good or what,i mean their popularity,n they only know suju n shinee's song,others just diffclt to sing along-dffrnt language-

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  34. There are a lot of artists in the U.S. too though, lol. Honestly Grammy's and a lot of other music awards shows cater to top 40 artists in the U.S. just like how every awards show in Korea caters to mostly just idols... I can't remember when but it was either last year or a few years ago where there was a new awards show in the U.S. created for just indie artists/lesser known artists... Korea should do the same tbh.

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  35. Ailee won rookie award.. i think(?)

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  36. They probably will be considering even when his artists are doing different music, their style tends to overlap A LOT.

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  37. It's not like other companies don't have groups with the same styles/recycled shit.

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  38. ...well SuJu was never meant to be an idol group forever, they were just a project group but they gained a lot of fans and therefore SM decided to keep them. What I want to say is that not all of them were chosen because they were great singer, some of them had other plans (like Kibum who wanted to become an actor).

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  39. Why is it so hard for people to accept that SJ is indeed popular internationally?
    ELF admit they are not popular in Korea, but we can't also say that they are internationally popular? other groups can win the hallyu award, but SJ can never win one?

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  40. Not really hallyu wave entered in japan taiwan and so first, and it was not SUJU who lead the hallyu wave but yeah they r very popular

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  41. Last time i checked Kara is only popular in Japan, TVXQ is popular in Asia but i think it's arguable that SJ is more popular than them in Asia......So if it should go to anyone it would be between PSY, BB or SJ

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  42. the award is not called "hallyu artist in shareeyh redlover's country" though.

    the person who garnered the most attention worldwide this year was psy. there's no debate about it.

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  43. 10. [+316, -56] The worst singers of our country are Super Junior, don't you all agree?

    No, Super Junior may have bad songs but you can't deny how great their singers are without being delusional. Kyuhyun(Is that spelled right?) has one of the best techniques among male idols.

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  44. Um, did I say they didn't? No you just assumed that was my point through your anally hurt eyes. Why do you think SM gets so much shit? It's because he's practically producing the same shit over and over, wait til YG has more than two idol groups to handle. So finding justification in using the same recycled shit by saying "everybody does it" is useless because I already know that.

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  45. Lol, he's been saying the new girl group will be like SNSD except 'YG style' for months now. Whatever the hell that means.

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  46. I'm a fan of theirs and i agree that that list is a complete JOKE

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  47. That's not entirely true but it's not false either.

    Then again YG only has 2 promoting groups right now.
    I suppose if there were more groups, it could possibly appear a bit different.

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  48. [+381, -56] Those Suju kids came out all the way last and was the only group to sing three songs in a row on top of promoting their damn new Chinese song.



    But they only perform 2 songs though...and the Chinese song only came in between......

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  49. Oh she did? I though just B.A.P, EXO and Lee Hi did.
    ...but I'm still shocked about Busker Busker

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  50. dear i wont deny that Yesung and Kyuhyun r good singers but the others? like ryewook is average and the other is also average and still Kwill, Tei, and more outshine them sorry

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  51. Honestly i stopped believing in this kind of awards since 2009 so yeah XD

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  52. After TVXQ and SS501 no one took the lead other than SJ and they still have it. Until something happen to them or someone take their place I think they'll continue leading.

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  53. Exactly.


    He called 2NE1 the 'female BIGBANG' and they've sort of lived up to it. They still have their own distinctiveness however.


    & That's why I'm expecting something a little less 'IN YOUR FACE' with the new girl group- since he compared them to SNSD.

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  54. ...well it's true many people discovered Kpop because of SuJu (like my friend, she is a VIP now but she discovered Kpop because of "Sorry Sorry"). But I'm not sure if SuJu still lead the Hallyu nowadays...

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  55. yes i know after TVXQ and SS501 SUJU became the popular ones i admit that but still

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  56. Ouch, SJ won the Hallyu award because their popularity around the world isn't based off a viral single? no offense to Psy or anything but I'd say the ELF around the world have more of a chance of continuing to contribute to the hallyu wave than the people who purchased Gangnam Style off iTunes.
    In terms of Busker(x2) not winning an award for not being there, that's unfortunate - really, if they're going to apply those rules to one they should apply them to all. To say EXO doesn't deserve their award isn't fair though because frankly, the album sales speak and they can't do anything about that.
    last year was a pretty crap year for kpop music anyway...there was nothing exceptional released so these winners are pretty much... default to me...

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  57. why are you sure that the new group will be like 2ne1 and bb? ^^ you come from the future?

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  58. exactly.and eunhyuk isn't as bad as others think though.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6Ggt53f6Kk

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  59. Geez.
    You seem to be the 'anally hurt' one.


    It's because I said 'shit', isn't it.

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  60. Why are you sure they wont be... Are you from the future?

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  61. I think they still have it as their fandom is still huge and growing slowly. They are normal and average leveled but they are popular ...

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  62. Yes and no, SUJU has a very strong fanbase however nobodu outside ELFS cares for SUJU, yes there r new fans coming however SUJU is not what it used to be and sadly the members must enlist which means they will lose their popularity and SM knows that that is why they got EXO so my point is that SUJU like all kpop bands r just popular in their fanbase and PSY yes he hit it big, but wanted or not ppl will listen to his next single yes probably they will hate it and PSY will be forgotten but still

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  63. Actually all of KRY have a good technique among male idols. Kyuhyun has the best one. Btw. being an "average" singer in Kpop is already a big deal because many idols don't receive the right singing techniques. Sungmin is also ok, Henry too and the other Chinese singer is also not bad.


    All groups have average singers, singers who are ok and singers who are bad but because other groups have less members people don't realise it always.

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  64. Agree. Super Junior were the leaders once, just like Wonder Girls were also on the top but now it's Big Bang and SNSD.

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  65. Not when they won over PSY...

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  66. Yes they are popular (I never said they aren't) but what I mean is that they don't "lead" the Hallyu nowadays anymore.

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  67. Ailee did win it...alongside Lee HI, B.A.P, EXO.

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  68. well singing is not just about techniques, i mean Hyorin used to had a very bad technique still her vocals were amazing, u can have the best technique but is ur voice is not good well then u will be out shadow,i really like kyuhyun and yesung voice, specially since i watched them on immortal song but still like i said there r way better singers, G.O, Kwill, Tei, the shinee kid, Jokwon and more

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  69. still what? can you name someone took the lead after? Blame the others for not being able to take SJ down for all these years. even if we said PSY had a big hit. He still just popular among the norm but has no big stable fandom yet..
    People who liked GS not going to like his next song for sure.. but ELFs will still support SJ to the top.

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  70. I see someone told me just that just Lee HI, B.A.P, EXO won ;(

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  71. The problem is the lead is there on top but no one take it. Can you name anyone who took that lead after? no one. so it'll automatically goes to the latest leader..

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  72. you're clearly justifying this hallyu award thing froma 2009 song. sure you realize award cermoniesgives thisaward evry year. if they won this i 2009 i' wouldnt argue with you but you need to gett out of your ass and realize this is 2012_2013. and just because suju or anyone did it for you, that the e tire korean industry owes it to them alone. hallyu wave didn't start in 2009 honey

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  73. I don't think BB TOOK it neither SNSD. Maybe next year one of them can have it.

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  74. wow calm down im not trying to bring SUJU down SUJU is losing their popularity, Big bang(even when i dont like them) r taking the lead and yes ELFS will support SUJU yes for sure i can see that XD

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  75. ...wth are you talking? being a good singer is objective because the singing technique is important. To have the best "voice" is subjective.

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  76. Busker Busker deserved that award unlike BAP and EXO. Busker Busker has actual talent. They are a group you rarely hear about but when you do they leave a long lasting imprission.

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  77. Hallyu didn't start in 2009 I'm aware of it. But SJ took the lead ever since and no one actually FOUGHT for it or reached what they did. I know SJ is weakened now. And some groups are stronger than before. Still they didn't took over SJ. Maybe next year ~

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  78. XD i think i didnt explain it properly maybe language barriers anyway what i mean
    all singers had different colors in their voice, and different register Kyuhyun voice is very unique but his vocals r not thaat powerful he has the technique yes he knows how to bread and all but aish dont know how to explain it XD lol anyway for me the only good ones r yesung and kyuhyun dont know about KRY since i dont even knew about their existence

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  79. I said I'm not even a fan of them lol
    But this one award, I think it is somehow still goes to SJ. As no one took them down until 2012. If you asked me about 2013 I would say SNSD or IF BB made another good comeback one will go up and take it.

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  80. Busker Busker is amazing and I they are super talented but saying B.A.P doesn't deserve it is kind of harsh...Even if you don't like their music, have some respect for their extremely hard work and passion please. Don't push your taste on others...

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  81. I say this all the time it doesn't matter what award suju win netizens won't think they deserve it. Psy won the grand award but instead of talking about that they bring up suju and exo to hate on

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  82. ...you are still saying the same thing. It doesn't matter what a vocal range you have or how "powerful" your voice is, if you use the wrong technique you can never be called a "good" singer.

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  83. thank god the ygs were there. it's the same old thing with these award shows. give every fucking thing to SM. it's tiring and predictable. its hilarious when an sm artist got the taylor-swift-shocked face whenever they won.

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  84. well it seems a joke.. because F(x) ranked second...
    But SJ being #1 in one the countries you named (which is my country) I guarantee it is a yes. 70% Kpopers here know SJ and actually ELFs.

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  85. actually...befpre KRY its was SRY.....sometimes it's KRYSD....
    Leeteuk/Hee/Siwon/Hyuk/Kangin are really good singers...ugh
    ofc judging by their title songs...they sound like a talentless and a crappy group~....doesnt most of SM group are like that?...and Please over half of them weren't even meant to be a singer....they are a fckin project group anyway~<3.

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  86. They should've gave EXO's to Busker Busker that's for sure.

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  87. give shinee all the awards!! :33 Precious boys can sing and dance perfectly. and sm still doesn't care enough! Still love them and deserve all the awards!

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  88. the results are better than most award shows....but some winners were questionable....like secret/miss a winning over dbsk, TTS, infinite who had better physical and digital sales

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  89. K-netizens sitting behind their screens dissing SM idols while their daughters and sons are buying their albums and merchs xd

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  90. Internationally though Exo/BAP are more famous than busker busker tbh

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  91. and i like how some people can't accept that fact the there are numerous people out who actually like the music SM makes but because you don't like their songs it automatically sucks

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  92. which of the MAMAs, Melons, GDAs, or SMAs are the most reliable/accurate?

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  93. ....well this is a KOREAN award where KORAN sales are important.

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  94. ...not all SM idols, they don't have many problems with BoA, The Grace, SHINee or SNSD. They are also alright with f(x) sometimes.

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  95. These aren't international awards though.

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  96. ...well MAMA is the least reliable, GDAs are mostly about album sales (they also have some award for digital sales), Melon is based on digital sales and SMAs is something in the middle...but yeah I don't think any award show is 100% accurate.

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  97. why don't they put IDOL or K-POP in the titles of these award shows...

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  98. Yeah this isn't a, who has gathered the most fans/popularity over the years. These are yearly award shows and this year definitely belongs to Psy.

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  99. While the shade is being thrown at EXO, SUJU and B.A.P, I'm more confused how SECRET and Miss A won awards both groups are terrible in physical sales and both have taken a plunge in their digital sales, especially Secret.

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  100. I'll stay silent and wait for B.A.P to become respected.
    Then I'll crawl out and say : "SEE ! SEE ! THEY GOOD AND TALENTED."

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  101. that's the thing - say no one outside of ELF care about SUJU (how do people become ELF anyway, we are just born so apparently) the loyal ELF in different countries will continue to buy no matter what, making ELF continuously contribute to the wave (in turn SJ winning the Hallyu awards, most of their sales come from overseas if i am correct.)
    I'm really not entirely sure of the point you're making or maybe i'm confused on this whole concept of hallyu... so sorry if i'm arguing on a wrong point. But my point is that SJs overseas sales are a lot more constant and have been for the past few years, with small declines of course but still going pretty strong. the last quarter boost of popularity for GS probably just wasn't enough to boost PSY into "Hallyu King" Territory + as you said PSY will probably be (lets not say for sure yet) be forgotten. We'll see how it goes this time next year.

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  102. worst singers with a huge fan base

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  103. The thing is some of them when hating on SM group, they don't specific who they are hating on. They just group them all. Saying they are just pretty, talentless, etc.

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  104. you gotta love how no matter what side of the fandom it is, vips will ALWAYS have an elitist attitude. clearly vips are threatened by sm.

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  105. once big bang disbands, no one will care for YG and his company will fall apart. Big Bang is YG's cash cow.

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  106. next year when SM finally takes suju out behind the shed

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  107. do you really think that k-netizens are different from international fans in Allkpop etc ?
    when you see so much hatred towards a company you can be sure it's the fans of the rival company... and these comments just come from YG stans.
    it's exactly like Allkpop adn being koreans doesn't make them more relevant.
    seriously Nate, Naver etc are full of idiots who don't represent South- Korea.
    haters gonna hate.

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  108. the exo hate is understandable
    sm shoved them down everyone's throat for like a month and they are a mediocre group with a ridiculous fan base

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  109. imagine if this comment was from an SM stan praising SM there would be so much downvotes. can't stand cocky ass vips. ya'll are annoying as fuck

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  110. It's sort of true though that not many outside of ELFs care about SUJU. No one except ELFs would listen to their songs. I guess the same could go for every group but the others get more attention from others outside their fandoms [ the ones who have been out for years that is ]. Wondergirls get attention/acknowledgement outside of their fandom, same with Bigbang and SNSD. The only thing keeping SUJU up there right now are ELFs.

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  111. doesn't most of south korea not even care about k-pop

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  112. no I don't think they are any different from us, but I think it is funny coming from them as Korean themselves.

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  113. this article and the comments of K-netizens or yours are so funny because you all act like if you were here to give a rational comment although you are just grabing the occasion to bash Super junior.
    geez you're like piranhas !

    and btw it just confirms the real nature of YG stans... internationals or koreans you just are a bunch of low people.

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  114. yeah i know that about exo b/c i get tired of them too but my main thing is the suju hate. Netizens are funny to me they seriously won't be happy unless suju win nothing at award shows. Every other comment is suju this suju that and honestly people don't won't to admit that they are talented

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  115. You could have ignored my comment if it bothered you so much.

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  116. This is oh so hilarious. At the end of the day who cares about what K-Netizens say? It's not gonna take their awards away from them. Whine all you want as if it's going to change what's been done.

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  117. lol YG stans? Korea just doesn't like the SM groups except SNSD and f(x)

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  118. you were the one who claimed anything, not me, i just asked ^^

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  119. Talented as individuals, yes. Talented as a group, not so much. A good number of them are talented on their own or if in a sub-unit but as a group, they're not as strong.

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  120. are you kidding me? some of the most talented artists and most loved artists came from SM. who has come from yg? big bang? se7en? yeah just two people. SM has a long legion of fame.

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  121. SuJu may be popular in asia, but they are defintely not popular in the west among kpop fans..

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  122. well my problem with suju is it takes 13 ppl to sing one song when it could easily be accomplished by 3... and maybe then they would be able to dance in synch. i have the same problem with snsd.

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  123. This soooooo much. While I love the pre-2009 diversity of SM music I like the new electronic style they're going for too, some people just can't accept it, lol.

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  124. They also hate on YG or JYP, they hate on everyone and everything as long it's releated to an idol group. Don't take it serious we should already show that Korean netizen hate the most Kpop idols/groups

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  125. Actually, every member can sing. KRY is just beyond amazing though.

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  126. for their title songs yes, but the other songs of the albums are always very good.

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  127. I really don't see how Vips would be threatened by sm. We got to see BB as much as any other group. It's not like sm stops BB from performing or anything.

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  128. are from some backwards country or something

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  129. i'm from the future
    let me just tell you that the hallyu wave dies a fiery death and ex-fan girls and boys worldwide lament over all the time they wasted rabidly defending oppa and unnie

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  130. suju is not popular in america....

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  131. Cause non-idols won awards in the SMA.

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  132. you guys seem like you are since no matter what you guys always want to find a way to throw sm artist under the bus

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  133. your comment is not ironic at all.

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  134. Umm, knetizens hate anything kpop. The only thing they can agree on with the general public is Busker Busker.

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  135. Not even mad that people are hating on my favourite group cause SJM freaking performed in Korea twice in one day!!!!!!!!


    And Lee Seung Gi was as adorable as ever and I got to hear his beautiful voice :)

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  136. EXO-K ahead of Busker Busker. Geez.

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  137. agree on this lol they seem to hate on their entire industry.

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  138. i guess everyone here cares because we are all on this site

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  139. ok lets see, im gonna use my bias as an example kim hyun joong he has being studing singing since 2004 and his recent teacher praised him cause he has the technoque however everybody knows that Kim Hyun Joong is not a singer, is like saying if hyuna or hara or bora get the proper technique they will be good singers

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  140. Yeah because international fans only care about the idols. And why you're even bringing this up as if it's relevant...

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  141. so YG stans are bashing Super Junior instead of congratulating the winners ?
    OMG that's shocking !!! they are such nice people, they always bring so much hapiness in all the articles about awards ; always so positive and aware of other people's taste in music.
    i really don't understand ! this must be a mistake !

    (yeah sarcasm) o.O

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  142. Clearly, by this logic, all of the people who post hate comments on YG articles are SM stans then. I mean considering how large their fandoms are and how many comments any article about YG artists get, that must be the case.

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  143. thanks for the warning!!! ^^ i hope haters and trolls can lament too!

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  144. Who are you kidding? Sorry Sorry might have brought you but what kept you was the "pretty" boys and their "personalities", thrown in with the constant queer bating. Not their music.

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  145. When they win any award for MUSIC, it's hard to swallow because theirs is terrible. No amount of bulk buying is going to change that.

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  146. but isn't that the purpose of a group? Every idol group is like that you have the ones that are there for the singing ones for dancing and other stuff. If every idol could do all the above you wouldn't see so many groups now and yes I know that there are some idols that are good at both and then some but people make it seem that they're completely talentless.

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  147. 2. [+502, -47] I'm just glad Suju didn't win the daesang ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ


    lol suju is really just treated as a big joke in korea. suju fans claim that they are the best in the rest of asia? then stop promoting in korea if you dont wanna be treated as a bunch of clowns!

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  148. .....................................
    Congrats PSY & every Idols

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  149. Can you think of anything they could bash f(x) on?

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  150. I see this excuse all over this post. So are you telling me that all of the negative comments in articles about YG artists are from SM stans? Sorry, but not everyone who dislikes SJ is a YG fan. Your just trying to deflect the hate.

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  151. sj by themselves tie the amount of yg ppl...

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  152. i would rather there be less groups lol

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  153. wait do they just "not hate" f(x) or do they actually show favouritism towards them?

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  154. all these "netizen" comments are made by stupid yg stans. korea loves super junior!

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  155. yesss! I'm glad someone agrees with me. People can't accept that and don't want too. According to them we only like SM music because of how their artists look.

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  156. and so it is technically always an SM party as long as suju shows up

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  157. argh ! why are YG stans whining again ?
    you guys have serious issues.
    if Super Junior win they are bashed, if they don't win they are bashed.
    at the end you just see them as a target.
    if your groups are so successfull and better than the others, why are you always so angry and unhappy ? it's like you are never satisfied until you can bring SM's groups down.
    can't you just ignore the groups you don't like ? is it so difficult ?
    i don't like Big Bang and i ignore them, i don't go on every articles to bash them !
    you should be enjoying your biases wins but instead you prefer to bash Super Junior ?
    get those sticks out of your butts kids !

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  158. do you like suju...? i'm confused

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  159. I think hate for suju is not always about the song, the attitude and scandals... maybe?

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  160. So silly, SM artists have a lot of amazing songs, people just refuse to listen to them out of their stupid bias.

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  161. it's more like suju is at every award show winning awards that probably should have gone to someone else. anything after sorry sorry really...

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  162. lol who cares ? SM groups have a ton of fans, deal with it !

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  163. lol but we know that won't happen for awhile. Look at all the groups that debuted last year. Like every month there were at least 5 groups debuting. I rather companies debut solo artist now

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  164. can you just be happy that both parts of the party win !!! ??? stop doing things like bashing ppl like srly

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  165. keep replying to all the comments of this article if it can satisfy you sweetie ^^

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  166. snsd not so much anymore

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  167. I love EXO, and all, but they have a huge point; If PSY could win an award, why not Busker Busker? Fan or not, it's hard to argue with the facts (and the facts are, Busker clearly deserved it more than anyone, based on all album sales and popularity charts...)

    Also, I was sort of surprised to see that SUJU won the Hallyu award. Nothing against them in particular, but, they didn't do anything "outstanding" to push the hallyu wave last year. Psy (as much as I'm over GS) atleast drew all eyes to Korea, even if only for 6 months..he should have gotten it imo...

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  168. Psy is their cash cow now.

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  169. Wow, why so much hate on SM? They brought Korea the best idol groups so far, that must mean something?

    And to the ppl saying those comments are left by YG stans, the likes outweigh the dislikes by far... I'm pretty sure YG stans alone couldn't do it.


    Ans SuJu IS popular in Asian countries, outside of Korea. So I guess they do deserve the Hallyu award.

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  170. ikr didn't like ~100 groups debut in 2012?

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  171. They just don't hate.

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  172. Must be an SM fiesta when both SJ and SNSD show up then, lol.

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  173. that too but hey that comes with being an idol and a celebrity. You have to watch every little thing you do and suju has slipped up on that on more then one occasion. And every one knows once you end up in a scandal you're on the netizens chopping block forever

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  174. LOL at the "she is a VIP now"

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  175. i'm not sure what we're talking about here anymore? are we talking about the hallyu award or SJ in general. if just in general, i agree - that's a fact i can't argue against really, it's general idol group + fan logic. SJ is older and given crap material as title songs, so of course people outside of ELF won't care because people outside of ELF don't bother to listen to their albums in entirety. (once again, you aren't just born a elf - you have to be a non-fan before you are a fan)

    if we are talking about the hallyu award, my previous point still stands as is, which i believe is a pretty valid one. it's not about recognition outside of fandom - it's simply recognition outside of korea.

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  176. hahaha that and then they only listen to the title tracks and deem the rest of the album bad.

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  177. majority of i-fans are ignorant relating to the popularity of their precious idols in korea, yet k-nets are just as ignorant when it comes to knowing who has international popularity.extremely naive. i get that you they may not have a high opinion of certain groups but at least do your homework before you open your mouth and sound stupid. another thing the comments highlight is how confused a lot of them are regarding korean popular music, on one hand the hallyu wave is great because it brings them attention, yet on the other hand it often intrudes on their domestic scene and they hate that. is it impossible to just pick one line of thought? and sorry but believing one person looks better than another purely because of her profession is the damn-est, most stupid thing i have ever heard.

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  178. lol yep and i didn't even try to figure out who was and the only reason i know exo is b/c like you said sm shoved them down our throats and still are and bap b/c they never stopped promoting

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  179. They didn't give it to PSY because he already won the daesang. But seriously, even if it wasn't for PSY, would people still accept that SJ won the award? I bet not.

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  180. I agree but the hallyu award wasn't for their music though.

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  181. Agreed...plus I think the majority would just like to hear original compisitions and productions from within Korea itself and not being bought from outside producers.

    I mean I bet there's plenty of music producers in Korea who'd love be the one responsible for one of SM next hit wonders, it just that SM doesn't seem to open their eye to what the public wants. Unfortunately.

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  182. really because almost all the evidence point popular amongst kpop fans in the west, such as in south america and france and apparently (according to polls)

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  183. Agreed, I think people are just so used to finding to complain about that it's just become natural for them to say the same thing.

    Rookie artists wise, I think the ones really deserving of it was Ailee and Busker Busker(still don't see why they couldn't get the award seeing how PSY managed to obtain top award..congrats btw:D)

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  184. what makes good music

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  185. Really? That is a shocker, if not SNSD then who?

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  186. kekeke don't blame Knetizen comments on VIPs!
    Ppl have said time and time again that this is the general feeling for SM idols in Korea.

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  187. only for now..he has no future

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