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Wednesday, November 28, 2012

JYJ's lawsuit with SM Entertainment reaches a conclusion


Article: JYJ is a free man... lawsuit with SM comes to an end

Source:
Yonhap News via Nate

1. [+827, -354] I really hope that we can see them on music programs now. We'll have to watch and see what SM does from here on out... We'll always be cautious... JYJ, fighting!

2. [+854, -393] Honestly speaking, vocal talent = JYJ

3. [+639, -385] Congrats.. ^^ and to the haters, how about you guys live your own lives instead of spreading hate here... Y'all should be studying at this time ㅠㅠ

4. [+188, -74] SM should stop blocking them from broadcasts. What is such a big company doing? It's pathetic. Scared of JYJ winning fair and square?

5. [+145, -55] Can we see them on TV now??

6. [+136, -47] Now that the lawsuit's over... I'm praying that they can promote and smile

7. [+114, -26] Finally, it's over... See you on public broadcast, JYJ

8. [+112, -41] You can't trust anything until you see what happens. They're not free until they can finally perform on music programs and promote as they wish. You have to admit that SM has been pulling strings for quite some time.

9. [+111, -41] ㅋㅋㅋㅋ do well <3

10. [+109, -35] You guys suffered!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ

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Article: JYJ's reps "We won the lawsuit but nothing changes" ambiguous response

Source:
X Sports News via Nate

1. [+119, -24] They're basically saying that the fact that JYJ can't perform on music programs and other public broadcast varieties won't change... Imagine how much the broadcasts suck up to SM ㅡㅡ^

2. [+106, -24] I've hated SM since they let H.O.T. go like that. I really want to see JYJ on public broadcast soon.

3. [+92, -24] SM's really scary ㅋㅋ Imagine how much worse it is for their artists... Every day must be like walking on thin ice for them

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118 comments:

  1. Yay!!! I'm so glad this mess is over. JYJ Fighting ^^.

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  2. CONGRATS!!!!!!! SM, WHATCHA SAY?

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  3. yessss!!!!!! finally it's JYJ ♥♥♥ let's see if SM really stop interfering JYJ activities. until JYJ can appear freely on TV shows n music programs i'll believe it. XD
    but at least let's party JYJ fans!!!!!!!!!!!! ^^

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  4. 8. [+112, -41] You can't trust anything until you see what happens. They're not free until they can finally perform on music programs and promote as they wish. You have to admit that SM has been pulling strings for quite some time.



    My sentiments exactly. I think some people are too optimistic; just because the lawsuit is over doesn't mean JYJ will be able to go about their activities unfettered. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

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  5. yaaaah jyj finally free from the devil ^^ or should i say that the broadcasting stations who got the freedom from the devil hold :)

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  6. LOLing at the amount of haters, someone is pissed....

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  7. i don't know what is 2vxq, what a failed stan XD

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  8. Honestly speaking, vocal talent = Junsu & Jaejoong.

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  9. exactly and some fans are saying JYJ will have their own color and new fanbase name. BEcause TVXQ fans = cassiopeia

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  10. I don't understand why people are hating. Whether you like JYJ or not, are you seriously telling me you're disappointed to see that this dead and rotting horse is finally done being beaten into the ground? Let JYJ have their moment, jfc.

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  11. i wish they guve us, jyj fans a name, but i don´t think they will give up the red, well i don´t care about the color, the only ones who cares are ot5

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  12. crazy people.... what is even funnier is current tvxq fans coming to this articules to spread hate, they should be happy, we must celebrate together!!!

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  13. lol.....I hope they don't have a fanbase name. I like that the JYJ fandom does NOT have a fandom name.....it's less childish and cultish that way. And I just like calling myself a member of the JYJ-family. And although seeing one color in concerts is cool and all.....I wish colors were abandoned....they create too many issues.......and are also cultish.

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  14. For fan projects though...for example changing colors during a specific song.........that is really cool so I still want that ^^

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  15. " The trio revealed that they had no intention to work as TVXQ "
    :/

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  16. you think? mmm i think they won't give us a name

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  17. exactly. It would make our lives easier to have our own name becasuse I seriously hate getting lumped in with the other group (and it's not like JYJ has even said the name 'Cassiopeia' in 2 years. They just say JYJ fans)

    But I guess after nearly a decade of having a fanclub name and color it's a hard habit to break away from.

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  18. when they were here in chile, there was a christmastree ocean XD

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  19. Cassies are cute
    JYJ fans are fugly

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  20. lets call us "JYJ fan" period. its wayyyy better than any other names :D

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  21. you Homin stans why so pathethic? just go to your own news can you? lol

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  22. i don´t know why they are so pissed XD it´s hilarious

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  23. IKR!!! even in allkpop.. gosh!! so funny!
    NB please give them a news about homin so they can go to that page instead of this =_=

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  24. I agree in terms of dance music but I prefer JYJ's ballads over TVXQ's

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  25. hell yes!JYJ

    LMAO homin stans such losers LOL and people said JYJ fans are crazy lol

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  26. Though it's hard, i'm going to keep my mouth shut on this in order to gain good karma ;)
    I'll just let you all look at TVXQ airport pics or pics of the crowds at their concerts ^__^

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  27. I'm neither a TVXQ or JYJ stan, but the quote "The trio revealed that they had no intention to work as TVXQ" made me kind of sad. =\ Sighs.

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  28. I have no idea what that person was on about. JYJ fans FUGLY! Say what!
    Their beauty shall blind that person!

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  29. lol I'm so confused by the people who are 'sad' at this news. JYJ and TVXQ have been working as independent groups for 3 years now, going in very obviously separate directions.


    How long are you guys going to stay sad for? 3 years isn't enough? It was pretty clear from the beginning that a reunion anytime soon was out of the question.

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  30. JYJ as 3 members group are the best, because all of them are hot and talented, unlike Homin.

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  31. Yunho and Changmin don't need JYJ.
    TVXQ is doing great.

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  32. Somehow I doubt the PDs will jump at the opportunity to be the first to invite them. They've been blacklisted for years and the stigma will stick, sadly.

    In my opinion, what they really should concentrate on is the conflict with AVEX. They should compromise and forget about their pride - Japanese promotions would give them so much $$$ and love from their fans. Do it, JYJ!

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  33. I agree with this, TVXQ are amazing performers

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  34. Why do people feel the need to bring TVXQ into this. This is between SM and JYJ, the duo has nothing to do with this. Anyway, I don't know if they'll be able to promote freely, but I don't think it'll be because of SM's cockblocking, more like the whole industry that needs to suck up t o SM. Hope it turns out fine for both sides and that we all can just move on like they have. Wonder if they'll have a new fanclub name or something like that though.

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  35. KBS:

    (Chon Jinkook-Chief Director)

    I heard the news this afternoon..

    I think we can tell about our position after the taking and arranging the situation..

    As the main reason was ruling..

    So, in my opinion, there’s no reason to block their appearances on our programs if it is clearly solved..

    MBC:

    (Won Mansik-Chief Director)

    Although the ruling was over.. I think their appearances need the time..

    (and other officer said…)

    We have no discussion about their appearances on our programs (including our music programs and entertainment programs) until now..

    I think the whole entertainment part should think about this for now..

    SBS:

    (Park Seungmin-SBS ingigayo PD) It’s the problem of the whole entertainment part.. We still have no discussion about this.. So I have no words about this…

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  36. JYJ has just as much right to use RED as Homin does. It is their colour too, since they were part of DBSK.
    Also I don't really mind that JYJ doesn't have a name for us.
    JYJ Fan is fine with me. I am proud to be one of the many individuals looking upon them with pride and great joy at what they have achieved.

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  37. you think JYJ need those two?....you have a good future as a comedian

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  38. And likewise, JYJ obviously don't need nor want to work with Yunho or Changmin either.


    Both are okay as they are. No drama needed.

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  39. AKTF means, as Jaejoong has stated so many times "keep the faith in my beliefs"


    Only delusional OT5s think it has anything to do with a reunion. If it did then why the hell would Yoochun's brother also have it tattooed on himself? He could care less about whether DBSK got back together or not

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  40. Thanks for posting that. Basically they don't want to commit to anything yet.

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  41. good! I like JYJ just as they are

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  42. yep, and is obvious anything will change soon

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  43. I see JYJ BUTTHURT stans XD

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  44. butthurt about what exactly?

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  45. delusional and pathetic JYJ fans these days >__>

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  46. I'm so happy for them. They deserve it so much. It's been freaking 3 years. Hope that those 3 TV stations will grow some balls and let them appear on TV. T____T. SM, can you just let it go.

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  47. SM ARE THE ULTIMATE COCKBLOCKERS

    But seriously, they have lots of influence over the broadcasting stations because they hold some of the biggest names in the industry. If MBC, SBS, KBS etc give way to JYJ to promote on their music programs, SM will restrict their own artists to make deals for new possible dramas, varieties and the broadcasting stations will lose big time. NOT TO MENTION SM C&C. Basically if you let JYJ do their thing, you can never get Jang Dong Gun, Shin Dong Yup, Kang Ho Dong, or Yoona...sorry. I see wut u did there...

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  48. I have no idea what that has to do with the lawsuit coming to an end. But thank you for your 2 cents, I guess?

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  49. But no one cares about homin in Korea so there's no top news. What to do?? LOL!

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  50. Did you even read the article/comments -.-

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  51. Well this means no more DB5K..T.T...but i am happy i am happy for them and i hope people stop with the hate (both side)....i want them to be able to show their relationship publicly...yeah i am happy.

    Now what JYJ NEED is to work with better professional songwriters and producers..and SM need to stop giving Yunho and Minnie those ugly songs for promotion (Catch Me <_<)

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  52. I pretty much agree with most of these.

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  53. Stop fighting with one another. Weren't we from the same family??
    Anyway I've come to realize that DB5K won't happen. They have 2 different mindset. Homin feel that "they shouldnt bite the hand that feeds" but JYJ wants to rebel against SM because they feel that it was unfair. they have different opinions ..:/

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  54. It's funny how HM stans try to make this battle about them, when it's JYJ vs SME. What a dumb deluded fandom.

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  55. fans are naive and expect them to be bfflz after three members sued to leave the group. it just doesn't work like that especially when two member's careers were in limbo.

    jaejoong talking about them on twitter didn't help either since ot5 stans keep repeating the things he said eons ago.

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  56. I think they're just trying to feel each other out. They're waiting for someone else to invite the 3. Granted they have no songs in promotion right now so I doubt they'll be on music shows anytime soon.

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  57. seriously SME cockblocking jyj from appearing on broadcasts are the ones appearing like losers.

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  58. And you think SM needs Yunho and Changmin?
    They have other idols that can give them much more money than HoMin, soon you won't see them promote anymore, SM will focus on their future gold idols, it will always be like that, SuJu will be next...
    Go on and keep on SM side and you will see what will happen to your beloved idols.

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  59. they can't work as TVXQ anymore, and I doubt they WANT to

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  60. i wana know who is giving u thums up. is it people who r angry/jealous at the fact the jyj tend to get positive reaction usually compare to the other side who have always comments that refer them as the past and never the present ? mmm anyways butthurt or not they r fans off 3 guys that r highly successful given their circumstances compare to groups who supposedly r leaders with everything under them in terms of resources and support so ur effort to taint jyj freedom moment is a good attempt but insignificant and a failure

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  61. good performers yes but a ghost of the past in terms of presence in the k entertainment industry. if i was a fan of them i would have clearly stayed away of comparing them to jyj in success cause they will pale in comparison

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  62. xiahkiisblindanddeafNovember 28, 2012 at 8:32 AM

    Hot and talented? ...M'kay

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  63. I knew jyj stans were delusional, but to be THIS delusional is just beyond what i imagined

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  64. "[+92, -24] SM's really scary ㅋㅋ Imagine how much worse it is for their
    artists... Every day must be like walking on thin ice for them"


    i chuckled... poor babies

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  65. I really hope to see JYJ on RM! Just imagining Chunface, forever_trolledSu and 4D JJ on that program makes me smile!

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  66. I'm not a Cassie, but I do remember their debut with "HUG" and have occasionally caught up with their other albums and shows. They had the biggest fanbase and were the most popular kpop idol group ever. Although they've been separated for the past 3 years now, it's really become bittersweet now that they're officially going their own ways. Best of luck to both groups.

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  67. lol i died with this comment "vocal talent = jyj". this article is obviously infested with jyj fans praising the shit out of their overrated oppars

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  68. at least they all have vocal talent, all of dbsk members have talents.

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  69. I find it funny that homin and sm fans only argument now is that jyj fans r delusional and jyj r nothing but no explanation behind it. I mean I get it, it's a sign of a dead end for them but oh well jyj should be happy now every penny they earn goes to their pockets after paying the CORRECT expenses and they have written down history of the only group to break free without paying compensation of a contract supposedly worth over millions. All I can see from obeservasion is that they walked out with their head held high and richer

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  70. i don't give a fck to haters or broadcasting companies. fck you aaaaaalllll..... JYJ win this lawsuit, that's the happiest news in this year for me~~~~~~~ this year is really full of ups and downs for JYJ and (ESPECIALLY, lol) for fans. now on to the next year! whether you're Jaeharem, Chunsa, Xiahpwa, SM fans, TVXQ's Yunho and Changmin fans, OT5, whoever... let's get along, all! or maybe, let's not care too much about each other again from now on? hahaha. ^^

    dear JYJ, please be happy, you guys~ and come back with better album next year! :D

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  71. oh come on, let's be happy now at least haha. at least they don't need to spend money on lawyer anymore because sm always try to delay the lawsuit. ^^

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  72. a usual yunho and changmin fans will never call them 2vxq or homin, but tvxq -- that's the name they go on as they're promoting now. weird.

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  73. it´s an articule about JYJ your einstein...

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  74. that's what fans are for. this is getting annoying, these fans who complain when fans comment on the articles... ugh. so...? if you think others deserved comments and vote ups too, then do that to those others you like. if you don't want to do that, then don't blame people who do that.

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  75. Of course the article is going to be full of JYJ fans. It's a JYJ article!!
    Just because you somehow seem to go into articles and comment about bands you don't care about doesn't mean that everybody lacks a life and does the same.



    Also, I sincerely hope you are not a TVXQ fan, because if you are then you talking about vocal talent would be the joke of the century.

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  76. Think about it this way...

    There are fans who have been fans of DB5K for the five and a half years they were together. It has been three years since the split, but fans still have at least five years worth of songs, concerts, tv shows, and special moments to have missed.

    It's always sad when a group has to retire or split up, especially a group that was so well-loved.

    DBSK at the height of their fame was a group that simply couldn't be touched. Everything they accomplished together, they did with the help of their fans.

    Have some respect for the people who choose to CHERISH those memories, rather than throw them away.

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  77. Hope we can see them on variety and on music shows,

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  78. Okay. Way to be defensive.

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  79. im really not a fan of them, actually i like other artists but i think junsu and jaeejong vocals r impressive, yes there r other great singers such as G.O, Kwill, and more yet Junsu and jaeejong r still awesome

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  80. It doesn't even fucking matter what color each group uses. There are so many groups out there that some colors are bound to overlap.


    Look at SNSD with their "pink" as their official color and 2NE1 with "hot pink" as their official color. You either have to get specific (hot pink, baby pink, pale pink, etc.) or just suck it up, cupcake.

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  81. JYJ and DBSK have gone so long as two separate groups that it would be weird to suddenly change the dynamics of both groups to make one group all over again...

    "4. [+188, -74] SM should stop blocking them from broadcasts. What is such a big company doing? It's pathetic. Scared of JYJ winning fair and square?"

    ^ THIS. Precisely.

    SM Entertainment is the largest, most successful entertainment company in Korea. Why are they wasting time, money, and various resources just to blackball JYJ?



    Now that the lawsuit is over and both sides have [supposedly] severed ties, SM will stop being such an asshole and allow JYJ to PROPERLY promote their music in their own country—since there is nothing left for SM or JYJ to gain or lose from one another.


    GOOD RIDDANCE.

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  82. LOL I died with your comment.



    Junsu has consistently been ranked the #1 singer among male idols since TVXQ debuted in 2003.


    It's not just the fans that are saying it either. There are non-fans, vocal teachers, music industry executives, producers, and fellow idols who have been saying the same thing.

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  83. What does that even matter, who's better and who isn't? Stop being such a baby.


    BOTH groups are successful and talented in their own right. All five of them have been in the industry for 9+ years, show ALL of them the respect they deserve.

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  84. Maybe. But the reason they were blacklisted is definitely not the same as other artists who have been blacklisted from appearing on tv.

    People can be blacklisted for a number of reasons, and almost all of them have to do with being convicted of a crime: drug dealing, dodging the draft, hit-and-run, aggravated assault, etc.

    JYJ was blacklisted because they happened to be in the middle of a lawsuit. Other artists have been in the middle of lawsuits and were still able to appear on tv. It just so happens that the opposing team was SM Entertainment, a company that holds a lot of sway in Korea.

    And that fact has not been overlooked by anyone. If anyone is carrying a stigma, it's probably SME for being so petty and avoiding a conclusion to this ugly mess for 3 whole years.

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  85. The only thing for sure: sme admits that jyj are legally free, no contract between sme and jyj.

    Th rest of SME statemant is b**s**... i still remember their statement about Hangeneg droping the lawsuit and still being sme artist. just to find out that sme lied; sorry but no one will make me believ that jyj just give up to Changmin and Yunho as friends or get no money - tbh for me sme statement is a proof that they paid a lot of money to jyj for their silence (about the deal they signed behind the close door! and even for this statement)

    About JYJ: the little changes are but it‘ll take time to see them on shows (we‘ll see sme artist in every single show so no jyj will be there).
    Like someone said it wasn‘t only sme who block them but all big companies: because of jyj lawsuit, their contracts and activities were reviewed...

    I‘ve never been so curious as i am today about what happened between tvxq5 members, who is really free, who today jumped with joy and who got drunk...

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  86. I'm glad this is over so JYJ stans can stop whining.

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  87. i'm also glad this over so TVXQ stans can stop winning like TVXQ also the victim one here, plz they got everything as long as they are in SM, be happy..

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  88. Fake OT5 fans show their true colour LOL
    "0% dbsk will be back to five again" of course, if that means JYJ should go back under SM..then NO.., and why not just yunho and changmin who leave SM so they can be five again (some people is selfish) , by the way JYJ loose everything after they leave SM but Yunho and Changmin not (i think JYJ leave is even the moment they wait coz it's been so long the spot light not with them,just be honest) so be happy too TVXQ stans stop winning here at last you are SM lover lol

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  89. Yet SM badly needs JYJ 3 names on their stock list for the past 3.4 years.

    With 5 persons , DBSK name can't be used.



    SM can't even get the trademark as ordered by court.

    Doing great or not , out of the question.

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  90. correction: Without 5 persons DBSK name can't be used under trademark registration.

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  91. Across main fandom blogs, all understand this SM statement aims at throw more stones to JYJ again. Let's OT5 fans hate more JYJ, for they are the ones forsake DBSK first.

    Is it so ? JYJ wants to turn away from SM , not their group.

    So cunning and totally without integrity company = SM

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  92. Some people just choose to live with it and MOVE ON. Have some respect for those who choose to do this too.

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  93. yeah then died

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  94. Hallo, SM didn't remove JaeYooSu name as their artist, and always listed them as TVXQ for the stock report. After 28-Nov JYJ big concession, SM will remove their name in the 4th Quarter of the stock report. Pls check carefully.

    Who needs who ? Why pull the guys as comparison?
    the true evil master is SM.

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  95. SM may not need Yunho and Changmin, but they certainly won't be giving up on Yunho and Changmin for the time being for one simple reason - revenge mentality at work, they want to show JYJ that their decision to leave was wrong, wrong and wrong.
    BTW, as a DBSK and SJ fan, I'll like to tell you that SM gave up on SJ since the day DBSK debuted. I don't know where you get the impression that SM ever focused on SJ.

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  96. [+145, -55] Can we see them on TV now??
    ^ Definitely a big no.

    I think people are too optimistic with this whole thing. What does ending a lawsuit mean? It's rather obvious both sides are ending this whole thing only because the legal fees have been eating into profits on both sides. It doesn't mean they aren't any more hostile towards each other. SM still doesn't want JYJ anywhere near DBSK or variety programmes on public channels. That's a fact.

    SM is still after all, one of the Big 3. Granted, they're not at their peak like they were two or three years ago, but they still wield a certain power in the whole supply chain for music and variety programmes. If only one broadcast station agrees to let them go on, SM can easily say "we'll block our artistes from appearing on your broadcast station". Look at the Mnet & SM argument from 2008-2010. Mnet definitely lost out in the whole broadcast race because they couldn't get SNSD on their shows.


    So for now, unless all three broadcast station comes together and say they'll let JYJ on the music shows, we won't be seeing them on music shows anytime soon.

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  97. I wasn't trying to imply that you SHOULDN'T respect those who have moved on.

    I was pointing out that the [international] fans who have "moved on" tend to make it a sport to mock and disparage their sentiments, feelings, and which ever group they don't support.



    IDGAF who supports what, but you should ALWAYS respect the feelings of others. Whether they choose to be sentimental or choose to move on or figure out how to do both, calling other people "delusional" just because you don't see eye-to-eye with them is straight up disrespectful and that bullshit needs to stop.


    Right now.

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  98. LOL so for you, who is the REAL talents from Idol?? some of the best idol cant even sing properly! =_=

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  99. To leave for your own greed... well, wanting more money isn't wrong anyway. It is not just SM who feels that they should be blacklisted... many of those in the entertainment industry share the same sentiment.

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  100. sorry actually all of you are delusional or better say both sides have right: HoMin beat the tvxq5 records, and even if their music is too SuJu for my taste, it is still better that JYJ music (their ost music is really good, Junsu solo album good but still missing something). When it comes to individual activities HoMin aren't even close to the success of JYJ (Junsu just give them class to all 4 of them)
    JYJ fans, you thought HoMin will failed, but they didn't, actually they improve so much (i didn't even thought that they can be so good but they are). HoMin fans, you thought that JYJ will failed, well they are still around not only as singers (their sells aren't so good as HoMin's but they are on top 10, as for the tour, can't wait to see a JYJ Japanese tour) but also as actors (recognized as the best musical-actors, and not only by their fans)

    tbh all stans should remember the old saying "You can see a mote in another's eye, but cannot see a beam in your own"

    i am the only one who is curious what is actually the real deal between JYJ and SME?

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  101. i won't say that sme need them but as far as i know Yunho and Changmin brought more money that any other of their artits

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  102. it seems sometimes SuJu doesn't exist for sme, but forgive me but i get the feeling that they gain some freedom, that they are more in control that makes sme to not interfere (idk like Eunhyuk-IU incident, i think that was his decision to keep quite and not sme)

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  103. -I agree with your opinion. But, do you know why those fans are mocked? Because many OT5 come to Homin or JYJ concerts and have banners of 5 when they are not promoting as five. Or even when they are holding individual events.

    -Also, many OT5, to fit their own narrative, think that JJ is forever emo and suicidal and that the five cannot live/should not live apart as it is breaking each of their hearts! Etc.

    -Also many OT5, irregardless of how hard the members are working now, don't think they are 'good' enough or ever will be until they are 'five'

    -Also, Yunjae fans, act like jehovah witnesses at EVERY single event and hand out propaganda posters to random strangers....with fanmade sexual pictures on them.
    -And many more things


    But, I do have OT5 friends.....and we do reminisce about old memories etc. But, we do it respectfully....while also highlighting and talking about the many achievements the groups have made now.

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  104. Yes, I agree that they get the freedom, but this freedom only came about after they got overseas success with Sorry Sorry. Also, the price they had to pay to get that freedom is the lack of focus on them.


    As a fan of both groups, I don't know who is more pitiful - the group without their freedom or the group without hope in their career.

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  105. i don't "stalk" you ^^



    - "blame" Jaejoong - "JYJ from TVXQ"- he knew what message sends to tvxq5, and tbh i thought it was also a mess for his own fans: be more respectful towards tvxq, past and present (but again it is so easy to hate)
    - i am curios, in the past few weeks, how did Jaejoong seem to you? Happy? - imo he was about to break down, but at My PS Partner Premier he returned to his usual smile. (now it is funny how come his smile was back once with the end of the lawsuit, but it could be just a coincidence)

    - music is a personal issue, for me their (JYJ and HoMin) music is not good enough because i expected much more from them and not because i think tvxq5 is better thanJYJ/HoMin. don't kill me but Jaejoong and Yoochun didn't work their voices at all, and if they did then they are in big troubles.

    - "propaganda" makes me think to "war". from now on Jaejoong will refrain himself from talking about tvxq, in this way even if ot5/ YunJae will still be alive, the fans will get it the message-no more tvxq5/yunjae; Jaejoong has to give up to "play" with his fans. will he do it? (actually i am so curious to know how he'll play with tvxq5/yunjae hearts ^^)

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  106. They are better off as JYJ and TVXQ...no point to talk about being 5 together again...relationship already tainted so is not gonna be like nothing have happened

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  107. tohoshinki's value in japan (which is 2nd largest music market in the world) are still high as sky..
    i don't think they would given them up for at least few years more (till they enlist to military?)

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  108. Maybe because TVXQ was mentioned in the original article??

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  109. Junsu yes, jaejoong no. I prefer Changmin than JJ

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