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Friday, October 26, 2012

With Suzy as JYP's sole breadwinner, is JYP at risk of losing their 'Big 3' title?


Article: Happy Together 'JYP's Breadwinner' Suzy, the reason she is so loved

Source: Mediaus via Nate

This article is an editorial talking about how Suzy is basically putting food on the table for JYP Entertainment with her popularity lately. The writer mentions that Park Jin Young's movie didn't do so well and 2PM is still recovering from their scandal with Nichkhun on top of miss A not living up to expectations with their recent comeback.

Meanwhile, Suzy is still highly popular and much loved by the public, making headlines everywhere she goes and everything she does, etc, basically making her the sole breadwinner for the entire company.
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1. [+434, -66] Well, let's start with the beginning of the year where those JJ Project guys completely screwed up their drama as well as their album, and then Jang Wooyoung, who also failed with his solo album, and then Park Jin Young, who also failed with his movie, and then miss A, who is also failing to garner any type of response with their comeback. It's looking dark for JYP this year.

2. [+408, -40] Hul... broadcast halls really said that all they want from JYP is Suzy... How did JYP drop this low...

3. [+406, -51] Park Jin Young needs to focus more these days... All of the songs he's been making for JYP are really weird... They're not even fun or have any type of feel...

4. [+88, -14] If JYP didn't send the Wonder Girls to America and didn't kick Jay Park out of 2PM, then JYP would be at the head of everything right now...

5. [+77, -17] 2PM became nobodies the minute they became 6PM and 2AM has no future left to their career even if they're not a part of JYP anymore. miss A hit it too big right from the start that they're not able to live up to that anymore.. and the Wonder Girls have been pushed back by a lot of the other girl groups. Compared to SM and YG, JYP hasn't been advancing, but rather declining... So they are no longer a part of the 'Big 3'.

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151 comments:

  1. weren't they more relevant in the past with g.o.d.? how did jyp even earn a "big" title past the 90s/early 2000s surge

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  2. OMG what would I do if I were Park Jin Young?!

    The Guy is smart and I PERSONALLY think he makes good music. I LOVE all of the wondergirls songs and miss A's I don't need a man was my fave song of theirs thus far...BUT his boy groups suck in comparison. Wooyoungs solo was lame and Jokwons was a big WTF. 2pm is full of untalented hot guys and 2am has talented uninteresting guys....where do you go from their?

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  3. ^don't forget about Rain. And WG were extremely popular when they debuted up til they left for the US.

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  4. the idol industry was more alive domestically back then as opposed to now. it just seems more relevant because international fans think their oppas and unnies represent the whole korean entertainment industry. dramas and movies, actors as a whole, have more staying power than these idols who will wash up in a few years. kpop is hardly relevant in korea itself and hallyu is declining.

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  5. Park Jin Young has made a lot of terrible decisions in the past. Kicking Jay Park out being his biggest (I basically left 2pm with him). Cutting IU & Hyorin. Cutting all of BEAST with the exception of hyunseung and junhying. Letting HyunA go...the list goes on.
    Just one question: When did 2am stop being part of JYP???

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    1. Official reports state Hyuna was pulled out by her parents so if that is true, JYP did a good job.

      IU wasn't the best when she first went to JYP So it's unfair to compare her talents today to when she was a "pre-trainee".

      BEAST are a different story.

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  6. I believe 2AM is with Big Hit. Big Hit used to be a subsidiary of JYP but they've branched off onto their own now.

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  7. 2005-2009 kpop best years
    more 2 years and no one will give a shit to kpop
    so not only JYP all the big 3 lol

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  8. hallyu is declining period, they need to focus in korea now. It sucks cause JYP really popularized idol group with the public. Everyone of his groups had mass appeal and public popularity.

    The songs and the marketing is what is killing them right now, hopefully they'll fix it soon before its too late. Let's see what happens to 2PM

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  9. Agree with the netizen comments so fucking much. JYP needs to start over, COMPLETELY... that won't happen until 2PM becomes to old to flash their abs and the Wonder Girls completely bankrupt him. That's how stubborn he is. Give him 5 years or so to clean the slate, debut better artists, and he'll be back in the game.

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  10. "broadcast halls really said that all they want from JYP is Suzy... How did JYP drop this low."
    it's very true... soo DSP will be in the big 3.

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  11. WG really need to back now or never !

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  12. @AnonymousOctober 26, 2012 5:38 PM

    DSP big 3? You must be joking. Cube is already ahead of JYPE and there are plenty more ahead of DSP. They've only got Kara and their Japanese popularity..

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    1. Japan is where most of the kpop profit come from
      Even if DSP rely only on Kara, they probably can do better than JYP right now

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    2. Japan does not represent more than 3% of kpop profits of agencies. Agencies earn more from commercial deals from chinese speaking countries and south asian countries as many reports already showed and that's why kpop agencies often collaborate with cpop artists and include asian members. Kara earns money in japan but 90% of the profits goes to japanese agency and distributors and dsp has no money to promote its other units like rainbow and it will never be top 3 as it never was.

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    3. If Japan is such a small percentage then kpop groups wouldn't be flooding to the country last year. Even if the companies get a large percentage, Kara still earned 10x more the money they would earn in Korea or other countries in concert sales and physical sales since Japan is now the number one music industry in the world, beating of US, in sales.

      Never said DSP will be top 3 but i said DSP can still beat JYP living off the money Kara make in Japan.

      And kpop is collaborating with cpop acts recently is because Japan for sick of the oversaturation of kpop idols coming over to get money with crappy translated songs and barely any effort even learning Japanese so kpop have to try finding money somewhere else.

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    4. Based on the annual report of dsp ent. 2011, kara earned 2.3 billion wons, $2m, from its japanese activities. Suzy can earn that money with a single commercial deal with a beverage company in korea. Kara will promote in japan because kara does not attract koreans no more.

      Kpop acts have collaborated with cpop artists long before and have been appearing in chinese tvs for cfs, variety shows and dramas for more than 10 yrs. Figure where the word hallyu came from. Kpop acts, however, does not show much interests in collaborating with jpop acts regardless of the popularity of kpop in japan because it would drain its image if it were to collaborate with jpop artists.

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  13. in the end, SM wins with their entertainers and actors

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  14. WTF!!! They actually forced Jaebeom to leave. And now they want him in 2PM???
    I agree that JYP is getting worse but there's no need to mention 'without Jaybeom 2PM sucks'.
    2PM without Jay earned more money 2PM with Jay.

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  15. I love JYP as a singer and performer, but he someone else managing his artists.

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  16. @dagina it's more about relative popularity compared to other groups/agencies. Of course 6PM made more money than 7PM, but that has more to do with the Hallyu wave spreading. In terms of relative popularity, they have been losing ground over time.

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  17. AnonymousOctober 26, 2012 5:38 PM
    "broadcast halls really said that all they want from JYP is Suzy... How did JYP drop this low."
    it's very true... soo DSP will be in the big 3.


    LOL no DSP stan (delusional) anon, you forgot struggling Rainbow, irrelevant A-JAX what? and the girl group they are trying to debut in Japan but no1+Kara fans in Japan currs bout. Like Suzy, Kara is basically DSP sole breadwinner (group). They were part of the big 3 in the 90s but kicked out of its spot by them failing after Sechkies and Finkl disbanded.
    Now history is repeating again with JYP slowly going to be stripped off the big 3 title sooner of later in the future with them declining and all their artists failing in some ways. Smaller companies are shooting up that are becoming a threat to JYP's big 3 title, ex Cube, TS, Pledis etc. What's saving JYP is its history since really the real big 3 should be based on its long history in the industry but what does that make DSP? They have the history but have failed big time with their artists, same is going to happen to JYP.

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  18. ''in the end, SM wins with their entertainers and actors''lol just now right? That they actually have real actors now under their company.

    SM's idols actors dramas all failed recently LOL



    only Yoona did good in her drama ''you are my destiny'' and that is it...

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  19. I too think JYP has declined so so much enough to not be part of the big3 anymore.

    Even though I dislike JYPark so much, he is BRILLIANT as a hit producer, i think all the bad choices he's made lately has put the company on this point, but I do believe it will get better sometime.


    And... yeah, 2pm is really over, man. There's practically nothing from them that can save them from the hole they got in when JYP fired Jaebeom. Sure, they get calls to advertise products with their bare chests but that's just it. Their solos suck and aslkjasd i could go on.

    I remember when Wondergirls used to get more love than SNSD. They lost so many followers when the company decided to send them to the US and flop miserably.

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  20. this is what happens when you give the spotlight to just one person... at times i hate SM but even when theyre biased with some groups/people, they find their artists something to do...! theyre on tv, radio, dramas, cfs, etc. everywhere!! JYP's music is good but JYP fails to do that... there's only suzy on tv, suzy on dramas... not clever at all...

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    1. Actually suzy made her own name by her movie. JYP didn't focused on one person. It just that suzy is in demand. People want suzy, Not because JYP push only suzy. But as a group Jyp's song not catchy at all. But I love jyp's talent in music and variety skills.

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  21. so who gonna take the 3rd place ?

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    1. My ass, cube is just the same, Hyuna anyone? Hell,Hyuna is worse than Suzy in terms of popularity

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  23. poor those girl from kpop star (i think is the name of the tv show) that sign with JYP. I think no one pay attetion to them.

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  24. JYP is REALLY dropping

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  25. JYP is going down, YG is #1 now and even though SM is now 2nd place they're still doing better than JYP. The thing with SM and their new actors is that they might change companies when their contracts expire so only time will tell if they did the right choice by spending a lot of money on "buying" those actors.

    Suzy is the it girl right now but let's be real, the girl can't act. So either they train her more or lose the last relevant person from the company

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    1. YGE #1? Even if you're a YGE Stan you should know it's not true.....

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    2. Lol who's #1, YGE? That's funny but not true

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    3. Yeah and without gdragon, who else is relevant? All YG fans have in their defense now is that he composes" all his songs

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  26. If JYP is stripped of their Big 3 title it would be Big 2 no more 3 cos no other company comes close to SME and YG at the moment not Cube (All they have is Beast & Hyuna) or any other company....they all need more than that.....

    If JYP doesn't get their shit together it would be Big 2 left....

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  27. @7:45

    YG isn't #1 in any way. Lets be real, even if i dislike the SME and most of their groups, they are still the most powerful entertainment company in Korea. It would take way more than Gangnam Style for them to be knocked to #2 to Korea's general public & the entertainment industry

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  28. @AnonymousOctober 26, 2012 5:50 PM

    you do know that YG is currently #1 right? PSY has helped alot with that and Big Bang's worldwide concerts

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  29. I see some people saying that SM is still #1 but according to how much money YG made this year they are at the top right now. And I have to say that JYP has really messed up, he is not good at planning at all. All of JYP's comebacks/debuts this year failed.

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    1. No SME has made more money than YGE this year....now we have to with for end of year financial report to see if Gangnam Style helped YGE outsell SME....
      Also Big 3 isn't all about money but power itself hence SME is still #1 regardless of if YGE outsells them

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  30. SM is #1, YG is #2, and I say that being a Big bang fan. No need to tell lies.

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  31. AnonymousOctober 26, 2012 7:53 PM
    agree with you 100%

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  32. This year PSY is making YG the most relevant Kpop company.
    Also, Big bang are more popular and they're selling better than TVXQ and SJ.

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  33. Here comes the YG n the SM stans. Why do u care about a faceless company with 100s of staffs who u don't even know the faces of but the CEO and managers and from the looks of them (for argument sack) they aren't even good looking if that was even the reason why u act like their financial managers and PR team. U like the artist full stop. I just don't get the competition and comparison fans make between album sales, digital sales, popularity etc but company competition now that's a new low kfans and I realised its only the YG and SM stans. Just shows they r fixated with power and popularity rather than the artist and that the majority of international fans r bandwagon fans compare to the Korean and Asian fans. Get over it

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    1. I meant Kpopfans rather tha kfans.

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  34. lol ok I'm not a yg fan but even I admit they're #1. And to those saying the public loves SM, no they don't, in fact more than half of their artists are quite irrelevant in korea. Look at the grace, exo, shinee, trax, super junior and tvxq. Having a big fanbase doesn't mean the general public loves them. How many times have catch me won in the few music shows who give awards?

    YG has PSY, BIG BANG, 2NE1 and EPIK HIGH their music is more popular, granted big bang's reputation is not the best right now but they're still huge.

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    1. Public change who they like because they have no sole group that they deeply love. See sistar is a big example. But with large fan base you can always know you can get lots of money and support. They are all idols and idols need fans, not public that don't take them seriously as "possessions"

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    2. 99 sucked shit. To me that never happened.

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    3. And u take ♪ ♫ ♬ charts and trophies seriously??? Then how come SBS, yg's best friend removed it? llololilolololo

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  35. JYP is doing fine as far as I can tell. I don't trust any article that isn't written by someone who doesn't have access to the financial books and can back up the suspicions with hard data. Netizens believing speculation over fact, just because it fits in with their pre-existing world view. As per usual.

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    1. This. Jyp is doing whatever he likes and as long as he is fine with it, who cares what others say when they don't even know the whole story behind it. When 2pm comes back they will still do well

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  36. Well maybe if they try to push the other miss a members instead of suzy since debut this would be a different story.

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  37. Lol lets be real here. As much as I like YG, you can't be blind and say they're number one. SM gets the #1 title, YG #2.

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  38. Laughing so hard at all the comments here.

    Firstly 2PM is doing fine without Jay. They could pull out the different image w/o him. Thinking about Jay with Heartbeat concept .. its so lame.

    Even without comeback for almost 2 years, 2PM still have lots of endorsement. Plus they are popular in JAPAN.

    I love JYPE in the point that they let their artists sing LIVE...unlike *coughSMcough* They are popular even they lipsync so hard. Its unfair. I was SM fan but quited after i went to SM town concert. I wanted to see them sing LIVE. I wanted to see the singers on stage not the DANCERS.

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    1. Yeah that's the problem I have with sm concerts, it's not like they can't sing live, but I don't get why...

      But let's get real here, none of the Kpop groups can sing live perfectly, maybe tvxq as 5 back then with their ballads after sweaty dance performances, I rmbed they even sang smp live. God I miss the old kpop

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  39. @AnonymousOctober 26, 2012 5:15 PM one word RAIN

    Cube needs a few more years and the ability to show they can groom more than 1 (beast) successful act, Hyuna is uber popular, but this current promotions isn't doing as well as her past releases, in another week it may drop out of the top ten whereas gain and ailee are still going strong, so yeah CUBE has a ways to go.

    As for who is more the #1 of the big 3, one uber successful year isn't enough for YG to rise to #1 overall, but certain;y in 2012, YG has really solidified their Big 3 spot and in the end may prove to be the most profitable ent company of 2012.

    YG's advantage is low overhead the use of inhouse producers, smaller groups, less staff means more of their gross income is profit.

    SM has huge overhead, not to mention who knows what enormous signing bonuses he had to give all those actors/comedians, so we will have to see profitability. They have 4 groups who consistently tour so that is A LOT of income generation. Moreover, other groups and members have a ton ton ton of CFs.

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  40. 4. [+88, -14] If JYP didn't send the Wonder Girls to America and didn't kick Jay Park out of 2PM, then JYP would be at the head of everything right now...

    Agreed. Wonder Girls were the number 1 female idol group...until they ran off to the states. Then SNSD reigned over. And as for 2PM...a lot of people left their fandom after the Jay Park controversy.

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  41. "Sure, they get calls to advertise products with their bare chests but that's just it. "

    Are you watching the same cfs as I am watching. Did they strip in NEPA? Mr Pizza? Lotte Duty? Look Optical?

    The last time i remember them baring chests in cf is coke zero. And that's like a year ago? Seriously, check your facts right.

    both 2PM and Jay are doing fine without each other. thank you.

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  42. !AnonymousOctober 26, 2012 9:07 PM they are doing fine, but considering how long they have been together and being from the big 3 they should be dominating and they aren't they are the big boy bands

    big bang dbsk suju

    then the rest, at this point infinite, shinee and beast aare kinda stealing 2pm's thunder a bit.

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  43. Actually, in the music industry, SM and YG are the biggest shits right now BUT in the whole entertainment industry, the biggest and most powerful company is actually SidusHQ. It is the most powerful entertainment company not only in Korea but in Asia as well because of it's roster of drama actors and actresses.

    And i am saying this not as a Sidus stan, if there's even such a thing.

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  44. ^ umm of course we're talking about the MUSIC industry. don't know how you started talking about sidusHQ and other stuff...


    "I love JYPE in the point that they let their artists sing LIVE...unlike *coughSMcough* They are popular even they lipsync so hard. Its unfair. I was SM fan but quited after i went to SM town concert. I wanted to see them sing LIVE. I wanted to see the singers on stage not the DANCERS."

    Well you see, the majority of IDOLS can't sing.

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  45. Jyp is over. Because of his unorignality he is losing. Nobody shit tribute to beyonce and dream girls.
    Miss Independant III a tribute to beyonce and Destiny's child.

    Jyp your era is over. Making Jay Park leave 2pm to protect your reputation didn't really pay off. Wonder girls in America failed misrabley. No one knows who the fuck they are. Psy has made way more progress than WG.
    Hyuna is becoming more popular than Miss A and WG in America.

    Suzy is useless. Only attention because she is pretty. Nothing special. Try again with something orignal... Maybe you could earn you place back.

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  46. I actually think Miss A and Wonder girls made good comebacks this year. But for some reason the public didn't love them as much as they used to. JJ Project's debut and Wooyoung's solo weren't bad either, so I thought they would've been more successful.

    I think JYP's last hope for a good year was 2PM. But no, this group just had to screw themselves over by basically volunteering to join Block B's controversy, and of course Khun being dumb enough to drink and drive. 2PM seriously needs to get their act together because they're quickly becoming more trouble than they're worth.

    And btw, what about Joo and San E? They're both very talented soloists yet JYP is letting them go to waste. At least try to have them make a comeback, rather than have them do practically nothing.

    I think JYPE has some pretty good idols and songs but this year really showed how things are going downhill. But if all JYP has left is Suzy then his company is in BIG trouble. To this day I don't see what's so great about her. And since she's not super talented, her career is bound to crumble once a better or prettier "it" girl comes along.

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  47. Are Wonder Girls still promoting in the US???????????????

    If so....they need to stop! It's okay to quit sometimes especially when you know you've failed miserably.

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  48. AnonymousOctober 26, 2012 10:05 PM
    AnonymousOctober 26, 2012 10:07 PM

    DAMN RIGHT!

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  49. Why is SM #1 they are trash. All their artist sound the same. I hate BoA voice. She isn't queen of kpop. She sounds like she is choking with her flasto voice.

    SMe sells more because they have more artists than YG even though they are talentless. Being cute and saying "Sarangheyo" all the time is lame. Poor peasents who buy this SM crap. They are untalented pretty dolls who wear less clothes to sell to Korea and then complain of creeps touching them and stalking them.
    YG isn't the best either. Stop comparing companies you peasents.

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    1. Lol who is the latest artist with saranghae as their title track? Tbh I agree with you, both companies are irrelevant, but fans can't see pass that they are all just trying to appear to you to be the best so that they benefit from all the protection fans are giving them. Twisting young people's minds.

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  50. ^ can you explain to me (us) what peasents are? thanks.

    but i agree, sm sucks. yg sucks. jyp sucks. so that's why we're comparing the big 3. :)

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    1. You are retarded if you don't know what a peasant is...just like a peasant would...

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    2. Well at least peasants still give money to SM, at least SM has the appeal that make them peasants give money. Don't be jealous, u know Yg wants money too

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  51. loool. SM stans~
    SM is no longer number 1 rn.
    based on Forbes, top 5 highest earning celeb in 2012 is..
    1. BIGBANG - 70 million $
    2. PSY - 35 million $
    3. Kim YunAh - 20 million $
    4. Lee ByungHun - 15 million $
    5. Jang DongGun - 10 million $

    the top 2 is from YG, and only jang donggun is from SM C&C.
    YG is also #1 potentially to be growing.
    everyone knows the idol phase is no longer in right now, people is now bored by that. and almost ALL SM artist is an idol, its just about time they being drowned. that's also one of the reason they merge with the actors n entertainer company, their idol like TVXQ, Super Junior, is no longer relevant, sure fans still pay attention to them but heck public wouldn't even give 2 sec to listen to their songs. and sry to say their idols aren't given individuality, so when their group is no longer relevant they'll struggle to keep exist in the industries. tho, i'll admit SNSD will be relevant in a long time.
    while YG in the other way, knows this, sure they'll make another idol group, but they also save emselves some musicians that people will always pay attention to no matter how old they grow cuz its their music people pay attention to, not face, nor image. bigbang for example, these guy hv individuality, im sure at least 3 (TY, TOP, GD) of their members will still exist even 10 yrs later.
    even stock market show YG is the #1 entertainment company potentially. SM stock is nowhere near YG atm.

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  52. I hope JYP picks itself up.. :( I really like their music and girl groups. They are not gimmicky or anything. Just real girls singing awesome songs and (in miss a's case) being awesome performers.

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  53. i agree that wg should stop trying in US. it is a waste of time and money (earned by other jype artists) to fund their flop american career. use the damn money to hire better producer, marketing team, get bettter clothes, mvs, which probably will do your company good in the long run.

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  54. WHY DO PEOPLE SAY WG SHOULD QUIT IN US AS IF THEY HAVE A CHOICE?~~~
    JYP is the idiot for keep sending them there.....<___<

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    1. They are human. They have the write to say no.
      If he sues them...
      I hope he knows that they will expose every story. From Hyuna to the mysterious trip to America to talk to Jay Park and his family (never said wht they talked about) all the pontial plagerism regarding Miss A and Miss $ over songs. So he might consired letting them go if he doesn't want to be the biggest laughing stock in Korea

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    2. They can say no, doesn't mean JYPE and management will listen.
      If they have a choice in the matter, do you think they would choose being stuck in US as nugus and let their popularity in Korea continue to go down?
      Do you think they would choose to go to US in the first place?

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  55. since when artist management company or the artist themselves get the most profit in music industry? there're another players like distributor company (LOEN), or broadcasting company (SBS, MNet). they're just not listed in the same category like SM and YG, but that doesn't mean they earn less than them.

    and i doubt sidusHQ is the best in the whole entertainment industry, considering CJ E&M is much much bigger.

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  56. I think JYPE horrible management plays a big part in their downfall. Don’t get me wrong, I am jypnation stan but it is really tiring and frustrating as a fan to see that it seems like the whole company doesn’t even know what they are doing.
    1. JYP’s ego? Let see, Title song choice - out of wg's wonder world album, why do they have to choose a basic ass song like bmb. And I am pretty sure miss a can sing songs that isn't just one flat note. Wg in US – do I even need to say more.

    2. PR team? They don’t give any explanations to fans and just let us wait and wait and wait. What happen to Fei and Jia Chinese drama? Gone. No announcements. No explanations. Zero. Nothing. Another example would be jay’s scandal. No immediate damage control. They just let the public hate 2pm and jay for a few days before releasing a statement. Good job, that was fast.

    3. Marketing team? Sucks at creating hype. no hype for jjproject's/15&'s/san e's debut and wg's/miss a's/joo's cb. And they even “please” their own cashcow (2pm) fans by terminating official hottest 3 memberships (at least extend their membership until 2pm cb or open official hottest 4) . No official 2pm fanclub, yay!

    4. And the biggest problem with them is how they handle members that are not khun, sohee and suzy. (taec is an exception bcos I felt that jype are caught by surprise by his sudden popularity and jype always use taec as a substitute. Maybe it is just me.) JYPE, they are not going to gain relevance when you are just going to shove them back into your dungeon and release them only when the group is making a comeback. While I get that the jype ladies might be awkward on variety shows, but I am pretty sure that there are other programs that they can do. Fei/ye eun/ sunye/15& can participate in shows like immortal song. They can also do photoshoots. (taec/fei/chansung have the model material).

    And the list goes on. The only good thing about them is the eng subs and real 2pm

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  57. i think as a producer and song writer, he does write good songs. But let's be honest, (and i say this as a fan of jyp artists) the man makes some of the shittest business choices. He needs to make some better choices and some good songs fast

    MissA's comeback isn't living up to potential, wonder girls wasn't too bad, 2am didnt work, the debut were not big as expected.

    2pm hasn't been doing bad with their japan promotions. Sadly though, they've managed to exceed the amount they made in korea in a four year period within one year of japanese promotions lol.

    something's gotta be done soon sadly or else, it's just gonna get worse from this pont

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  58. Wow so people still didn't get over jay park leaving 2PM, and WG's aventure in the U.S. LOL


    By thinking a those things, you can't concentrate on WG's comebacks in korea (Wonder World best album of 2011 and a fresh new image for their 2012 comeback) and as for 2PM being one of the top kpop act in Japan after BoA, TVXQ, Kara and SNSD since their "Beautiful" single selling better than Kara and SNSD's singles this year.

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  59. "2pm hasn't been doing bad with their japan promotions. Sadly though, they've managed to exceed the amount they made in korea in a four year period within one year of japanese promotions lol."

    Don't be sad, they gain more money in 1 year in Japan than the total of 4 years in korea xD

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  60. jyp, you're job is to make your artists successful, not make them lose their relevance

    It is true though compared to the other 2 companies, Jyp comes in last place, a big difference from last year.

    MissA recent comeback isn't as successful compared to the others: no slaying the charts, no all kill. but it's still charting pretty well, so it has the possibility of some longtivity.


    With wonder girls, if he was going to ship them to the US, he shouldve waited a few more years. They were popular 2007-2009 but they didnt have that stable fanbase quite yet and by the time the hallyu wave started to hit, he might have been able to try.

    2am, their ballad song didnt do too bad did it?

    Debuts - not as great as everyone hoped for. They are all talented and need better songs

    2pm - is kinda complicated. Of course the true test if they are able to survive this is whenever they do make their comeback (rumored to be december. As the user above me mentioned, they are actually pretty popular in Japan. Not necessarily mega popular in terms of TVXQ, KARA and SNSD, but their sales are quite good. Their pre order sales right now are very impressive and the ticket sales for their tour so far have been pretty decent (shanghai is selling out, not all places have started selling yet though). While netizen's opinions about khun in the last few articles have been pretty positive due to his volunteer work, the question remains about how the public is going to feel once he does come back and if they'll stick to more japanese promotions in the future.


    The man needs to better train his staff when it comes to promotions and such. Maybe missA's recent lackluster was cause of his 2 month vacation.

    The end of the day, he's losing money and he's gotta really focus and find ways to better manage his artists and finances if he wants to stay towards the top

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  61. miss A's debut was THE hit song of 2010, it's not like they can have hit songs at each new comebacks every years -_- I believe it's normal if they aren't doing better than Bad Girl Good Girl.. but who knows???? Maybe JYP will give them another song with potential of being another mega hit.

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  62. i agree with anon above. JYP's ego is really ridiculous. please just decide whether he wants to manage or to be managed.

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  63. Sm - the artists suffer
    Yg - the managers suffer (I won't answer any questions about it. You can speculate as you wish)
    Jyp - the fans suffer

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  64. Yes... I would agree ... I love all jyp artists... They seem so multi faceted and genuinely kind. I even love most of the music. But the management just kills me. They have so much potential, but my heart drops whenever I read any of their idiotic decisions or non decisions. But hey, who am I to judge? Can't have it all..

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  65. At least they have a breadwinner, unlike some other nobody companies.. I know you can put all eggs in one basket, but why stress about this? It's kpop!!

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  66. I believe it's the charm of jype's artists.... if they were at sme, with better management for example, they won't be the same humans being. So, with their ups and downs, I love jypnation no matter what.

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  67. You know, I haven't found jyped music to be consistent in terms of quality at all. Sm and yg would be examples in which the quality and style are pretty much even throughout time and by different artists.

    The flop songs of jype suck more than I can say, but the hits, oh the hits. They far surpass yg or sm in terms of depth, expression and musicality. They are works of genius.

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  68. The fact is, those comments are from sites with a lot of anti-JYPE netizens (Jay Park, anti-2PM fans, mostly. /rolls eyes) that bash no matter what content comes up about them. 400 likes? Are you kidding? 400 likes mean that JYPE is failing? Where's the logic, guys, when you compare that to the number of fans they have?

    Most of those comments are left by people who haven't done research, but just bandwagon information because they get the most likes. It's like posting about how bad meat is on a vegetarian site.

    Well.

    Wooyoung's album outsold Super Junior's on Hanteo charts.

    2PM hasn't had a comeback for a year-and-a-half in Korea, which means there hasn't been a lot of hype. That doesn't mean they're failing. (And what's with the 'stripper' jokes again? Please do some research to stop Hottest from sighing exasperatedly at you as you idiotically bandwagon. Coincidentally, Jay was the one who ripped his shirt the most - and still does now, doesn't he? Why don't you go and bash him, instead?)

    "JJ Project guys completely screwed up their drama as well as their album"... Uh, their group wasn't even announced during Dream High 2, and they did better than average for a rookie group.

    15& and Ahyeon are slowly garnering attention.

    JYP himself doesn't manage the company very well (ex. broadcasts, exposure...). But I have high respect for him because he managed to push himself from a nobody to one of the most successful and well-known K-Pop artists alive - and I like the songs he produces because the lyrics actually make sense. However, JYP, please improve on promoting your artists better.

    I believe that all JYPE artists have great talent. People just refuse to see it.

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  69. Umm I found this article to be more of a large troll comment with sprinkles of facts.

    missA's comeback, IDNAM, is upbeat, catchy and very refreshing. And is one of the better songs kpop girl groups have had to offer in a LONG WHILE. Can't help it if kpop land has such a narrow range of norm and therefore "liked" songs.

    And while JJ project seemed to have lost their relevance in kpop land. And this was from an unbiased view at the time, I feel they were one of the best new kids on the block. They were talented, fun, charming, energetic with extremely catchy music. And they still are....just not in the public eye unfortunately.

    But I agree as far as JYPE needing to fix up his management of his company. It's really acting all screwy.

    But like someone else said, I wonder if the too much management would eliminated the humanity and down to earth personalities you see in JYPE's artists. It's the thing that I find most attractive about JYP's artists and the reason I came into k-pop.

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  70. I think all JYPE needs is just doing a better promotions. I do agree that Wooyoung's solo sucks, but not on everything else. JYPE's promotion teams suck as hell. WG did so much in the US but didnt even get highlighted in Korea, so people in Korea just assume that WG failed, but they've been getting a lot of attention there. Sure, not as much as PSY, but if only the promotion team reached out a bit to the press and release more promotion videos, that would be better. AND, if only they did not let other Miss A members go out of the spotlight.

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  71. during miss a hiatus, other members didn't get individual activities that make them stand out... look at fx during hiatus, each of the members have some individual works and get their name out there, they are not completely gone during hiatus and each of them get media attention while miss a, I don't know what happen to others than suzy T.T

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  72. Frankly speaking I'm a non-korean SM idol fan (no need to know which idol i fan). But frankly speaking JYP songs are easier to dance with if they put in clubs. Compare to SME songs. I don't know why JYP mvs kinda suck. I mean look at f(x) "ES" songs it reached 27M views! I think that's because of f(x) Victoria's immense popularity with the homebase Chinese fans during her stint with 2pm Nichkhun in MBC "We got married" show. Khun was a top idol model but after the accident he's sort of disappeared from the face of the music world and that cost 2pm a lot i guess.

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  73. Wow. I just heard that 2pm Junho and Junsu are going to star in separate drama?! 2pm Nichkhun starred in drama in his own birthcountry already. So that's not only Miss A Suzy who's the sole breadwinner for JYPE then. Hope these idols do great cuz TBH I don't find Suzy talented enough in acting nor entertaining enough in variety shows, js.

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  74. @AnonymousOctober 27, 2012 2:52 AM
    Not to defend jyp, but it's who Koreans want to see and demand... They only want Suzy.
    And f(x) is one of the very rare group that all members have their own spotlights and specialty where people love and enjoy them

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  75. @AnonymousOctober 27, 2012 3:40 AM
    No lol
    Just like other members, Vic's individual activities helped to gain fans and recognition but ES got views because the song is good ( it beat WG and BB's songs when it came out to be #1 for a while) and the MV is easy to look at ( the colors and prettiness)... f(x) is far more popular than what international fans think of. They are one of the few groups what do well both in digital and physical sales. Didn't they won 10 times last year too right?
    Everything added up to make their MV have more views and they have more awards/popularity

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  76. miss A is definitely on the decline, people who think otherwise are ridiculous. Despite having literally no competition compared to September, an extremely packed period, they are losing to Ailee (rookie), K.Will (back in February, Touch beat out K.Will's comeback mini) and BARELY beating out Ga-in's now month old song on the chart.

    I Don't Need A Man also failed to allkill despite lack of competition. None of the acts they are competing against are from Big 3 this promos except Epik High, who have been blasted for their sound being too YG instead of them & has let to the title tracks performing weakly (only It's Cold is charting well and this song is charting better than Miss A as well). Miss A's popularity is on the decline and Suzy can only carry their popularity so far.

    so what if other 2PM members are cast in dramas, many idols are cast but they are not relevant to the public at all unless their role and the drama is really good and they get praise (see Eunji). Nobody cares for 2PM members outside of Khun (now bad rep due to drink driving) and Taecyeon

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    1. Aren't miss a to early to decline. They haven't even peak yet. Lol

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    2. Try peaked with their debut....

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  77. "what's with the stripper jokes"

    LOL, excuse me. Way too offensive I see. That is 2pm prime concept, even if they don't do it more often, that's the image that the public has of them.

    Go ask anyone in korea (non bias) what's the first thing that comes to their minds when asked about 2pm and they'll answer: ripping shirts of while dancing, beasty idol, etc

    ._.

    I see some people blindly defending 2pm, 2pm has too declined a lot. Why can't you stans accept that?

    Jyp makes good songs, but lately, they're not at their best.

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    1. you have said that 2pm has declined a lot of times yet you don't further explain or give examples of it. They declined bcos of their stripping concept? They declined bcos of jay's leaving but their peak is heartbeat (OT6) and had pretty much stagnated throughout their career.

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  78. it was all good back then with Rain and g.o.d only LOL.
    back then after g.o.d, i'm so sure that Rain is the only big thing in JYP. there were no other stars... well except for noel byul limjoenghee,etc, not very big. IT WAS SUCH A GOOD TIME.
    then when Rain decided to leave JYP, JYP was like all out with idols, 2pm wg 2am etc.too many idols i think.
    but i think it's only a phase...2pm will make their comeback and BAM.
    don't blame JYP... everybody has their ups and downs.

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  79. i think the problem with JYP is... he 's trying too hard to make an impact in US. remember back then when he was on the cover of billboard magazine? he's trying too hard...
    look what he did to WG.and Rain. but it's really good for Rain though to have such connections in U.S. now yeay!

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  80. 5. [+77, -17] 2PM became nobodies the minute they became 6PM and 2AM has no future left to their career even if they're not a part of JYP anymore. miss A hit it too big right from the start that they're not able to live up to that anymore.. and the Wonder Girls have been pushed back by a lot of the other girl groups. Compared to SM and YG, JYP hasn't been advancing, but rather declining... So they are no longer a part of the 'Big 3'.

    THIS

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  81. wake up n smell the coffee, it's nearly the end of 2012 and next year will be 2013, jyp will keep getting richer with all the royalty and other income, idols whether form jype, wg nor sm have to work their ass to achieve whatever goal they have in mind for their own future, only the fans care about the big 3 as if they have share from the agencies profits and loss~~# fans should have the determination to work hard and buy all the cds, goods the idols endorsing etc. so that the agencies and idols can make a living.

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  82. Wow, there are so many "industry experts" here who can't wait to contribute their "facts" & "findings" & "analyzing" abt what a failure JYPE & their artises are. Judging from the amounts of comments here, seems like a lot of ppl care abt JYPE or most ppl are just looking for an opportunity to bash.

    1st of all, this article should just be treated as a "GOSSIP" article. I seems to remember there's an article saying that those netizen comments are only a SMALL group of ppl who DID NOT REPRESENT THE WHOLE OF KOREAN PUBLIC.

    JYPE is definitely not perfect in their management. Their marketing & promotion department is certainly lacking in many ways.

    Many "experts" here isn't even Korean or have never set foot over there at all (armchair traveling thru the TV or internet doesn't count) & frankly I doubt they've even worked in the entertainment industry before, much less the Korean entertainment industry.

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  83. YG did well in terms of signing PSY and Tablo/Epik High and doing well with Big Bang's world tour. BB and 2NE1 as models help a lot.

    SM has SMTown which is undoubtedly the one of the biggest KPOP concert to grace any country since YG and JYP don't offer it yet and it helps their income tremendously. SNSD's fame with advertisers and general public isn't going to decline soon, 1-2years, unless something bad happens. Shinee, Suju, SNSD, Boa, TVXQ japan concerts are huge money makers. I've seen the financial reports.

    JYP has Suzy and friends promoting and 2pm as advertising cash banks. 15& remains to be seen.


    The problem with JYP is he himself is still promoting to be a celebrity/musician while his counterparts can focus on their company. I know they have their own CEO now and JYP is more of a producer but he can still call the shots on the artistic direction of the talents.

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  84. LOL at anons comparing 2pm single sales in Japan with Kara and SNSD and then declaring 2pm to be "popular."

    FYI 2pm Beautiful single sales was so high because there was a "tour version" which is like a limited version of sorts (aka simply just another version) plus high five or handshake event ticket (which 2pm typically does to increase sales). compare One Day (2pm+2am) single sales - around 50,000? - which is 2pm's normal Japan single sales --- which is WTF because this release has like at least 12/13 versions (different covers) which obviously did not help the sales in any way.

    for comparison, look at super junior's Japan single sales with the same number of different covers - sj managed to increase their sales to more than 100,000 which is obviously why the Japan company keeps on doing it.

    boy groups usually sell better than girl groups in Japan (with the exception of AKB48 and such), so KPop fans should not in any way belittle the popularity of SNSD & Kara in Japan.

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    1. Sales doesn't mean relevancy because Momoiro can't sell million like AKB but they're already one of the top group

      Boy groups sell more because of dedicated fangirls and if we're talkin about JE, that company got some serious connection.

      But agree..just cuz oppas sell all doesn't mean they're relevant because Kara and SNSD are more known with the public. Beside SJ even got a concert to promote their single

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  85. ^
    Who is belittling SNSD or Suju here?

    And why is there a need to turned this into "SNSD is more popular in Japan" & "Suju is more popular in Japan than any other Kpop boy group even though they didn't "debut" there officially"?

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  86. well wg are not the same after sunmi left the group coz she was the only "really pretty" member in wg and she was really good at variety shows.

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  87. LOL comments saying 2pm is "popular" in japan kara/snsd level because their one single sold a lot IS belittling kara/snsd popularity.

    and suju was mentioned ONLY because both suju and 2pm used the 'more than 10 different covers/versions to increase sales' - suju succeeded, 2pm+2am failed okay?

    and fyi suju stans stand that suju didn't 'debut' officially in Japan is stupid - suju gets so much more promotions in Japan than other established YEARS artists/groups. not ALL Japan artists get to perform in tv music shows - but you don't hear the excuse that they haven't 'debuted' officially yet. obviously, most of them don't even get HALF or a QUARTER of the promotions that suju get in Japan.

    and LOL at you anon for reading what is not even written.

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  88. why is suzy interesting?

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  89. wg's downfall is a 3-step process...
    1. losing hyuna
    2. losing sunmi
    3. american advancement is just the third reason

    did anyone actually believe that hyuna was 'pulled out for health reasons' when she stayed on still as an idol trainee and then years later, she debuted with a different group?

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  90. ^
    LOL please you make it seems like Hyuna is the most popular/important 1 in WG. Such half baked "research".

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  91. "wg's downfall is a 3-step process...
    1. losing hyuna
    2. losing sunmi
    3. american advancement is just the third reason"

    Oh get your facts right. WG is famous after Tell Me, which is when Yoobin joined the group, and when Hyuna left. So it has nothing to do with Hyuna. Losing Sunmi? Sunmi left AFTER the American advancement. So it has nothing to do with Sunmi leaving either. Rather than the points you provide, WG's declining fame in Korea was probably due to lack of promotion in Korea's side. They stayed out of the limelight way too long. It was nothing to do with losing or replacing a member.

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  92. sunmi is pretty ,funny and very talented of course her absence affected the group.
    but losing hyuna? umm NO.

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  93. if they put suzy in sunmi's place instead of lim >> wg would be still interesting u__u

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  94. pressed kara/snsd stans, that anon who said 2pm's single in japan this year sold more than kara's and snsd's singles, doesn't mean 2pm are more popular. that anon actually said "after BoA, TVXQ, Kara and SNSD".

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  95. "after BoA, TVXQ, Kara and SNSD" is NOT 2pm... that qualification make it seem that 2pm is the next big KPop act in Japan when they are not - sales wise AND popularity wise.

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  96. AnonymousOctober 27, 2012 8:57 AM

    musically(?) they HAVE declined ._______. I'm not their fan, how can I give you details? I'm not even an anti :/ wtf I'm just saying they doesn't have music that represents THEM since long ago. SURE, they get love calls to film commercials and such... but... pst, aren't they "SINGERS"? That's what I'm talking about! If 2pm (or better, yet, their management)doesn't do anythinf to revive their music, soon the public will get tired of them. Plus, there's a lot of young idols who can fill those shoes doing and looking exactly the same.

    So... I'm not hating ._. i'm just giving my 2cents

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  97. "Wooyoung's album outsold Super Junior's on Hanteo charts."

    Wooyoung's album sold almost 100k less than Super Junior's as of last September.

    http://forums.allkpop.com/threads/2012-hanteo-sales-january-september.48442/


    Anyway to add my 2 cents, I think JYPE likes to take big gambles. Unfortunately their gambles haven't paid off in a while. This year could be the beginning of a long losing streak or JYPE could have a reversal of fortunes and be back on top. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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  98. Ok, My simple mind just think that JYPE's losing money (and power) because JYP-hyungnim was too focused on bringing WG to the US music market. He failed doing it with Bi/Rain, but it cost WG some publicity in homebase Korea while SNSD's was busy gaining (and stealing?) more and more popularity with their songs, gigs and appearances in many TV variety shows.

    So it's not because of dissapearance/loss of Jaeobeom or Hyuna or even Sunmi. Public needs to see more of their idols. So when WG was 'out of sight' they were also 'out of public minds' too, js.

    JYP-hyungnim should focus more on Miss A, 2pm & other idols under his belt. And now he has the Superstar idol joining his company too.

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  99. hyuna has the so-called 'star' material
    sunmi has quite a fanbase

    wg losing them did not do wg any favours... unless one counts yoobin being 'popular' when the popular members left but only after her losing weight.

    also wg/jyp refuses to move forward... wg still sings their glory days hit songs despite having newer songs - it's like they themselves acknowledge wg IS already past their prime. that and/or afraid that if not their hit songs, general public will not know it's them.

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  100. sales CAN mean relevancy...

    momoiro clover z may not sell a million like akb48 or sales like akb48's sister groups, sub-units, or rivals BUT if you remove akb48 and it's related groups, momoiro clover z is already the highest selling Japanese JPop idol girl group next to Perfume.

    boy groups tend to have better sales than girl groups because of the dedication of fangirls - a similar phenomenon in Korea and Japan. so Kara/SNSD's popularity/sales in Japan is not comparable to boy groups at all.

    2pm's high sales in one single should not be the basis of 2pm's 'popularity' - 1. increase in sales for that release was more because of marketing strategies, and 2. succeeding single failed to establish an increase in 2pm's 'normal' single sales which is around 50,000 despite doing new marketing strategy i.e more than 10 different covers (specially in comparison to SJ latest Japan singles).

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  101. ^emphasis on 2pm's marketing strategies sales results ARE unstable therefore their sales should not really be used as a parameter of their 'popularity.'

    marketing strategies are usually used by idol groups in Japan to increase sales - akb48 voting tickets, handshake tickets; kara - cd, cd+dvd, cd+photobook versions and now handshake events too; 2pm's 'tour' version and high five tickets; and SJ's different covers. some groups tend to increase in sales and then stabilize, other groups don't.

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  102. musically declined? that goes for most of the kpop idols group. lol

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  103. jype lacks good management skills. They didn't even try to hype jj project before they debuted. people only found out about their debut when it happened.

    jyp is trying to hard to give miss a an image that doesn't fit them.

    I think 2pm contribute more to jyp financially than suzy.

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  104. I feel that JYP artists,,look expensive and higher class.

    I love them with nice, polite and humble.

    I love them as they are close like family.

    I don't like cheap image like Hyuna.. split legs and say ice cream cream cream.. that's gross. If she wasn't gangnam style, I don't see how she get this popular.


    Agree that JYP's PR and MK are suck..

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  105. Wonder girls become popular after Hyuna left. So stop saying WG lose popularity when she left or that it didn't do WG any favours. In fact that what one of the best decision that JYP take for WG.
    Because it brings Yubin who become one of the most favorite members of WG during their peak.
    Then they left for USA and it's when WG lose their popularity.

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  106. JYP need to regain focus. He needs to maybe let some others write for his artists or something. Whatever he's doing now is not working. That's a lot of pressure for Suzy to feed them all. He needs to go ahead drop that english album by WG then get them back to korea asap.

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  107. Hyuna definitely didn't do anything for WG's they started to fall after the U.S thing happened. Yubin is awesome she actually brought them some popularity. Hyuna only got popular now because she's puts her body out there and of course PSY.

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  108. Its like a bitch fest here.

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  109. and suzy's popularity won't last long...coz she really doesn't has a solid talent to back her up.
    JYP is really flopping right now

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  110. AnonymousOctober 26, 2012 10:29 PM

    You are retarded if you don't know what a peasant is...just like a peasant would...


    ^ YOU are actually the retarded one for misspelling peasant as PEASENT...TWICE, If you noticed, I was actually mocking your lack of spelling. :)

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  111. hyuna leaving jyp had nothing to do with the downfall of wg. their song (tell me) after hyuna's departure and the arrival of yoobin was what began wg's rise to fame.

    i heard hyuna left because she got pregnant with kikwang.

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  112. jyp better find another breadwinner soon.
    We don't know how long Suzy can stay cute.
    She is getting older. Time is ticking

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  113. wonder if JYP will be merged with SM , just like AM Entertainment. Just saying.

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  114. one problem i can see in jyp is their concepts..look at miss a and wonder girls..they almost have the same genre of music they sing and promote..it might be okay if the other one is a boy group but they're both girl groups..

    as for 2pm..they're getting older and getting overshadowed by other groups but let's see when they come back

    these 3 groups are supposed to be JYP's pride but they're going downhill..JJ Project didn't get a lot of popularity either as well as some rookies from JYP

    sucks that Suzy alone was the one giving JYP lots of money

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  115. Whether you are a die hard 2pm fan or not this article is fairly representative. You cannot deny the fact that JYP is not a prominent power as it was before. Heartbeat was a good song but most of the popularity was garnered based on Jay's leave from the group. 2pm is still a prominent group but jay was a big reason why the group was so good. Jay was the most talented of the group and I dont need to say much more seeing his popularity as a solo artist. Jaebeom was JYP's pearl and casting it away will haunt him forever.

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  116. Well. 2PM is really popular in Japan and Miss A is rocking the show.. so O don'tthink JYP loses his title..

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