A lot of you requested best replies on news of the passing of Hyunseung's father this past week. I purposely ignored it because I didn't think this was the place or time for it.
The ordeal has actually been brought up as a controversial issue on Nate Pann these past few days with a lot of upset B2uties coming forward and calling a select group of VIPs out for their disrespectful comments towards Hyunseung and his father.
These are two top ranking posts on the topic. I will translate bits and pieces of it and summarize the rest because it's lengthy and kind of redundant, as well as going into a lot of fandom specific things that I'm sure people in either fandom are already well aware of.
Italics are my summaries.
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"Hello, I'm a student who has been a personal fan of Jang Hyunseung for the past year. I won't introduce myself any further as it won't help what I'm about to say in any way. I'm not sure if B2uties are still banned from posting in Nate Pann, and if we still are, then I'll apologize in advance. Should this post become a problem, I will delete it myself.
As you all know, Hyunseung oppa's father passed away the other day. I no longer want to talk about such a heartbreaking thing anymore, but I am bringing it up once again because of how severe the actions of antis and disrespectful B2uties are getting."
She attached a screencap of a best reply left by a VIP on an article about the passing of Hyunseung's father. The best reply stated, "It's unfortunate that he died but I don't think this news is big enough to cover Seungri's scandal..ㅜㅜ.. Or maybe it can.."
"As you can see, this is a hateful reply left on a Nate article.. Words that I cannot even bear reading with open eyes.. Such hurtful words jabbed at my heart as a fan. Each letter choked at me. If someone special to you, if someone in your family had become a piece of ash as well, could you still say such things?"
The OP then goes into Hyunseung's "Trouble Maker" promotions with HyunA. I don't know about the i-fan response, but both Hyunseung and HyunA received A LOT of hate for the song concept being too provocative and too mature for their age and TV.
The reason the topic is brought up is because "Trouble Maker" was a turning point in ruining Hyunseung's image with the public, which the OP thinks has something to do with all of the hateful replies he's receiving now to this day.
"CEO Hong Seung Sung, I really hate you. I hate you so much for making Trouble Maker. As an entertainment CEO, as someone who knows how important an image it is to a singer, to a celebrity, to their life... how could you have thought of putting out a concept like Trouble Maker? Even if Hyunseung wanted to debut with Trouble Maker, you should have stopped him.
What have you gained with such an explosive response? You've earned nothing but antis with a fake image, and now even after his father passed away, he is still receiving hate because of that image.
To so many people, he is remembered with a bad image. Even I, as his fan, would have looked at him in a negative light had I not been a fan at that stage in his career.
Have you ever stopped to think how upset he must feel to see the related search terms when he searches his name? How regretful he must feel? Just because being a celebrity means you have to be strong in the face of hate does not mean that he deserves that hate."
The OP then addresses VIPs and tries to clear up old rumors that they're still spreading about Hyunseung, which I'm not going to get into because they're old and I remember reading them years ago so I'm sure his fans and VIPs already know the truth about them. She's just bringing them up to remind VIPs again that they're spreading false information.
The post then ends with a final letter to VIPs, where she asks them to work together to find middle ground so that neither side has to apologize in the future.
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1. [+208, -11] I'm a VIP and I've liked Jang Hyunseung since before the debut of Big Bang. I feel truly upset over the passing of his father and I cannot say anything but sorry after reading those hateful replies. I would like to genuinely apologize. I have no intention of dismissing your post under the excuse of everything being "old news" and I will not defend our fandom saying that the people you are referring to are just the minority. I am just sorry. I will make sure that nothing like this ever happens again. Please forgive us.
2. [+174, -3] Please don't delete this post. It's been a while since I've read anything so respectful. I don't understand why just because Hyunseung debuted as a celebrity, he has to receive comments from people saying good riddance and how it doesn't concern them on such a devastating day. Anyone that said one hateful thing when his father passed away needs to reflect immediately. Put yourself in his shoes. By the way, I am not a B2uty or VIP.
3. [+172, -3] I am sorry that I can't say anything more other than please find strength. I'm sorry that I'm a B2uty that can't explain anything even though I know what's wrong and right. I'm sorry that I'm making it more difficult during the hardest period of his life. I'm sorry that I could do nothing but just watch as he received hate during Trouble Maker despite knowing what a passionate person he is on the inside. I'm sorry to not only Hyunseung, but also to Junhyung for not being able to protect him. Moreover, I'm sorry to B2ST for them having to say that they are no longer afraid of hateful replies because they received so much of them with their debut. Lastly, I'm sorry for all of the disrespectful B2uties that brought hate to such a respectful group.
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The following post is a B2uty calling out other fandoms and B2uties for their disrespectful actions at the funeral.
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"Hello. I am writing about something concerning the passing of Hyunseung's father. As you all know, he passed away from a heart attack on the morning of AUgust 20th.
'Rest in Peace.'
How difficult is it to say just that? Why are you leaving hateful replies? What is the reason? Would you like it if someone swore at you when your father passed away? I am so embarrassed to be considered the same human being as you..
Whether or not you are from a different fandom, you should be sad that another life has passed away.
And as a B2uty myself, I never thought I'd call out another B2uty, but I really cannot understand the actions behind the disrespectful B2uties and the reporters that I saw at the funeral.
How dare you hold colorful placards at his funeral? How dare you ask for autographs at such a place? If you were truly for B2ST, then you would mourn his death and look out for Hyunseung at home, away from becoming a nuisance to Hyunseung at the funeral.
And to the reporters.. How would you like it if someone kept taking pictures when your father passed away?
I really cannot differentiate whether you guys are truly fans or antis in disguise... Did you think Hyunseung would gladly give you an autograph and check out your placards during his father's funeral?
I'm so embarrassed as a B2uty... Don't call yourself a B2uty if you're going to do that.
I also heard that antis had thrown eggs at Yoseob at the funeral... I am just praying that it is truly nothing but a rumor.
To the antis... please don't hurt the hearts of B2ST. I'm sure you guys have fandoms yourselves.. Would you feel happy if your favorite artists were hated on? Please, put yourself in the shoes of others."
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Sources: Nate Pann (1) (2)
fandom is like an organization or something. get over youself idiots, and enjoy your bias for the music and stop trying to fight over the dumbest things. even i fans are are as bad.
ReplyDeletesigh~ i think it's useless trying to plead with those messed in the head.
ReplyDeleteSome of this is making me side eye so much. Fans always think they know what's best for the idols, which surprise surprise, coincidentally aligns with what THEY want. Let these people lead their own lives and careers. You are not their manager, you are not their mother, you are just a fan. Learn your place.
ReplyDeleteSome VIPs are never going to get over the whole Hyunseung drama, whether its true or not. Oh well, what can be done.
ughh im enraged with this...! in moments like this, you should say RIP and thats all not leave stupid comments... day by day fans talk more and more like theyre part of the mafia O__o... arepeople that cold-hearted that they just care about a person's death because it might cover someone else's scandal? just stfo!
ReplyDeletepoor Hyunseung... I still remember that special where B2st's dads were dancing "Fiction" and MR. Jang looked healthy and everything :( hope he can RIP and that their families gather the strength to continue...
what the well, what is wrong with these kvips and these buties?
ReplyDeletethanks for posting it just now, after some days passed, liking yiou even more netizenbuzz!
^ LOL I meant what the ''hell''
ReplyDeletenever understand why fans have to be at the funeral... and media should give them privacy
ReplyDeleteignore the antis,because I know they're super jealous with beast because of their success. Support B2ST forever and ever!
ReplyDeleteVIPs, ELFs, and SONEs are the worst!
ReplyDeleteCan someone tell me what's with the VIP drama? why are they mostly talked about in this article? I'm sorry I don't follow beast or big bang so I dont know what's the link between their fandoms.
ReplyDeleteI hope his father rest in peace.
^ it is because one of beast members always ends up using the same clothes GD used before, so VIPS get angry with it and hate on the guy.
ReplyDeleteYeah believe it? Vips hating on the guy even when his dad died because THEY USED THE SAME CLOTHES.
And funny thing is GD copies others artirts all the time LOLOLOL
Hmmm anyone mind giving a quick explanation what scandal(s) are between VIPs/Big Bang and Hyunseung?
ReplyDeleteAlso RIP to Hyunseung's father and I hope Hyunseung finds comfort through this difficult time.
hyunseung almost debuted in big bang, and b2st is often hated on by vips for 'copying' big bang, so maybe that's it
ReplyDeleteAt a time like this, when a person is mourning the loss of a loved one, shouldn't people empathize and be respectful? What has humanity come to? Antis..how do you live with yourself, knowing you make other human beings so unhappy? Do you enjoy causing such disrespectful acts? Do you not have parents and siblings and friends you care deeply for? Imagine if your parents or sibling or friend was constantly hated on and receiving negative comments daily..would you be happy? Hyunseung is a hardworking idol. His collab with HyunA to create Trouble Maker was mature and artistic and new. If you don't like it, stop watching their performances and just go on with your lives. Why hate? Why torment Hyunseung while he is mourning the loss of his father? Why throw eggs at B2ST members while they too are mourning the loss of someone close to them? I don't understand and fear for the future if people like this are the future generations we are suppose to rely on. And for k-B2UTYs that disturbed the peaceful mourning at the funeral home with colorful placards and shouting for autographs? If you are a true fan of B2ST, why can't you just give it a rest for sometime and not pester them. These idols, the 6 boys we all love and care for, are also humans. They have emotions and are entitled to privacy like you and I. Please, I hope nothing else like this ever happens again to Hyunseung, to B2ST or to anyone in the world.
ReplyDeleteRIP Papa Jang
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VIPs are being pretentious as per usual, and they continue being D-bags even when one of B2ST's members father died.
He is not one of my bias but just felt sorry for him!!At times like this when a non-bias people like me felt sorry for him as a fellow human being, what's wrong with his fans?? Same goes for VIPs!! TC and stay strong Hyunseung!! May you find strength and courage to lead you family in this hard times!!
ReplyDeletereally... some of you calling out b2uties and vips, do you know who are the most disrespectful ones? REPORTERS. at least spare their family and not taking picture or video continuously. -_-
ReplyDeleteas a fellow i-b2uty, i hope b2uties can learn from this and in the future behave accordingly. b2uties have done many mistakes before, and it was either our own b2st oppas (wait, there're only few of them i can call "oppa" though -.-") and b2uties who call out to us. at such, i'm glad fellow b2uties step up to straighten the ridiculous behavior of some b2uties. in the future, i hope b2uties can be a good fandom. it'd never be a perfect and smooth ride, but i hope b2st can continue giving us their best. i'm sure hyungseuk will be stronger through this. much condolescence to him and his family, and may his father rest in peace.
ah.... this has been a hard week... T.T
*hyunseung. omg why did i write hyungseuk.
DeleteVIP are repulsive!and when BB is bashed I see B2uty defend BB, but when B2ST are VIP join in the bashing.
ReplyDeleteI hate bigbang they have a bad relationship and are
douche
Cannot believe they would be so disrespectful at the funeral. So, so, so wrong.
ReplyDeleteVIP are repulsive!and when BB is bashed I see B2uty defend BB, but when B2ST are VIP join in the bashing.
ReplyDeleteI hate bigbang they have a bad relationship and are
douche
oky u read only what u want??? have u missed the replies where vips are apologising and being sympathetic??? u are the repulsive one!
and RIP to Hyunseung's father, hope he finds strength
http://tinyurl.com/9d5o2wg
ReplyDeletethis sick comment vip made over people not like yg
To those asking about the drama: If you didn't know Hyunseung was a trainee for YG and was aiming to debut with Big Bang.
ReplyDeleteObviously Hyunseung didn't make the cut and later on when Big Bang got big he supposedly made some really bitter/rude comments on his cyworld about them. Some VIPs don't like him because of it which is ridiculous since GD and TOP are still very close friends with him. If they don't care, if indeed it did happen, why should fans?
VIPs disgust me, seriously.
ReplyDeleteHis father just died, and your worried about it not being enough to cover one of your oppas, who's pathetic and talentess.
Sickening.
All I see here is immaturity, that VIP doesn't have a clue,so true, but hate?? Are you serious? Looks like someone just wanna fight with VIPs fandom.
ReplyDeleteWow, I didn't know Hyunseung received so much hate for his Trouble maker . it's about the difference in culture again. The dance was actually really quite mature, especially the couple dance, (HyunSeung's hands were everywhere on HyunA).
ReplyDeleteCEO Hong is always marketing GNA, HyuanA & 4minute as sexy idols. This is CUBE :/
VIPs are so mean and scary..heck, i'm not even B2uty or whatsoever...VIPs always try to appear as cool fandom and crap but they're just plain ridiculous, defending BB who always making troubles and they don't even need to reflect themselves when they make mistake...all thanks to their VIPs =/
ReplyDeleteI saw vip tell someone who dont like bigbang that he/she get molested by theyre parent and get ostracized at school and the vip called the hater black hearted.They say cruel thing like that and say that ....they are worse than hater's
ReplyDeletehow did this come to this....i mean i cant even think about this...i dont know what to say
ReplyDeleteWow, I never thought that some people could be so disrespectful to someone who is mourning a loved one. As a B2ty and a fan of Hyunseung, I can only say that I'm disgusted by this behavior, VIP and other B2ty's alike. Losing someone is painful, incredibly so, and disrupting a funeral by asking for autographs and throwing eggs at other B2ST members, it's horrifying. I don't know about what Hyunseung has done or said to/about BB during their debut, but he in a sense was the one left behind, and of course he would feel at least a bit of bitter resentment towards them for a time, since he didn't make it into the group. We all make mistakes. Even idols are human, after all. And what's this about Trouble Maker? I'll admit that the MV and song were quite provocative, but they're adults. If you take a look at the kind of music that's popular in the U.S, you will find that they have far more raunchy tunes and videos. I find it a bit un-tasteful that so many Korean's are all about Westernization, but still get all worked up about things like this. I don't mean to offend, but that's just the way I see it. And lastly, why is it a big deal that a few stars dress similarly? Trends are trends, of course most stars are going to abide by them. I think it's ridiculous that some people would get angry about that, we see people wearing the same things all the time. For example, bright color blocking is in world wide, it's unavoidable. I think we should just focus on Hyunseung and his loss; he needs support during this hard time, and dis respectfulness just cannot be tolerated. I hope that Hyunseung's father can rest in peace, and that Hyunseung and his family can cope with the loss of such a loving figure in their family.
ReplyDeleteI give these B2UTYs full respect for writing such post.
ReplyDeletewhy name of ELF dragged in this issue..?? & stating we're the worst!!
ReplyDeleteits between b2sty and VIP..
ELF don't want to meddle in this.
pls.don't dragged ELF here w/c is unnecessary..
May his father RIP..
excuse me, but since when did GD copies other artists? Idols wear only what the sylist asked them to, so you can't blame them... And no, that's not the scandal... Apparenly Hyunseung said some bad stuff during Big Bang's debut because he wasn't chosen but truthfully, I'd do that too if I was him.. I am both a VIP and a B2UTY, and I blame no one in particular.. People that throw eggs at Hyunseung's father's funeral are not VIPs, they're just some stupid moron that can't think straight... You clearly read everything, it's all about VIPs and B2UTYs, so why do you have to drag Big Bang and B2ST into this? What fans do have got nothing to do with their fav idols.. Unless you want to tell me that G-Dragon throw eggs at Yoseob, don't blame Big Bang.. Big Bang and B2ST are both awesome bands, and don't let their carrier be destroyed because of some fans' overzealous behaviour
ReplyDeleteOMG, I can't believe how ppl can be so cruel. I'm a VIP and I can't believe how retarded ppl can be. I'm too embarassed to be considered a VIP right now. I know this is late but I hope that Hyunseung's father rests in peace and that Hyunseung faces no more hate. Bye
ReplyDeleteVIPs should consider that big bang Hyunseung are still friends.
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