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Monday, August 7, 2017

[Pann] In defense of iKON

Pann: How the idol group currently under controversy views gender

In summary, OP attempts to clarify claims of iKON being misogynistic in light of their behavior at their Japanese concert by arguing:

- The part where one of the members was doing push ups is an 'American dance' that they often do in their practice room.
- The part where they lift up skirts and lay on the floor to peek upskirt is 'just a joke' because the members view each other as men even though they're crossdressing.
- The members apologized for their behavior after realizing why it was problematic.

Other examples of iKON being open about genders:

- On a radio show, Jinhwan had the following exchange
DJ: Ah, Jinhwan-ssi, you're dressed very sexy with your shoulder exposed like that. No joke, you look so sexy right now.
Jinhwan: I'm actually wearing a woman's shirt.
DJ: Eh? Really?
Jinhwan: Yes
DJ: Ah really?
Jinhwan: Yes well there's no distinction as to whether it's for men or women with clothes these days
Donghyuk: That's right

- The members also wear a safety pin as earrings, and the safety pin is a representation of being against the discrimination of race, gender, and sexual orientation.

- Picture of Junhee wearing a bracelet in support of comfort women

- Bobby took off his jacket and put it on a pregnant fan

- At a Chinese fan meet, BI gave the female MC his jacket to use as cover up since she was wearing a skirt


1. [+213, -19] Well after reading it, all I'm thinking is that they should've been more careful. I commented on the other thread and I do think it's going too far to accuse them of misogyny. People were too quick to judge after seeing only one side.

2. [+205, -14] They weren't careful enough but they did apologize so let's make sure to be more careful in the future

3. [+193, -22] I think they just need to be more careful in the future... calling them misogynistic is a stretch

4. [+62, -4] After reading the clarification post, they don't seem like bad kids

5. [+58, -3] I saw the video clips of the concert and they started off fine in the beginning but then they started getting out of character and taking each other's wigs off and speaking in their regular voices... so I thought they were just joking around. I didn't think they were being misogynistic or enacting sex moves on stage. No one listened to me in the comments yesterday though ㅋㅋㅋ

6. [+54, -2] I guess they're different than I assumed. The comments really did seem to be against them yesterday ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

7. [+52, -1] I didn't think they were being misogynistic either and was wondering why it was controversial. They seem to be good people.

8. [+50, -0] Would've had a misunderstanding if I only read the other post

9. [+42, -0] They were over the top but they apologized so... just be careful in the future

10. [+40, -0] They were over the top but it seems wrong to accuse them of misogyny; just be careful next time

11. [+36, -0] I like that statement about how there's no gender when it comes to clothes. It's obvious they're not completely ignorant.



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