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Sunday, May 24, 2015

Sex columnist Kwak Jung Eun expresses disgust to being called a 'pretty princess'


Article: What's so wrong with a taxi driver calling her "pretty princess"... Kwang Jung Eun's tweets cause a buzz online

Source:
Kukmin Ilbo via Nate

Sex columnist Kwak Jung Eun recently tweeted: "I got in my taxi and as soon as I sat down, the taxi driver asked me if I was going anywhere fun this weekend. I told him that I was on my way to work and he said back, 'Do even pretty princesses like you work?' I was going to go all the way to Seoul station but I think I'm going to get off and hop on a subway."

"I was uncomfortable with a stranger judging my looks on a taxi I was on for transportation as well as his strange premise that pretty women shouldn't work. I was also put off by the nickname 'princess', treating me like a little girl."

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1. [+2,825, -129] I think the taxi driver just called her that because he thought of her as his own daughter... Does she really think he said that because she's pretty or something?

2. [+2,315, -137] She's seriously a mental case. There's nothing wrong with what the taxi driver said. I also hate how she treats anyone who doesn't agree with her like how they're somehow inferior intelligent wise. Her tone sounds like, "Really? I have to explain it to you because you're that dumb?"

3. [+2,161, -98] ㅋㅋ Must be hard living life so frustrated all the time

4. [+281, -9] So a taxi driver being nice and calling her a princess is putting down women but she can go around and make sexually suggestive comments about male celebrities and expects it to be passed off as 'cool'? This is what you call backwards feminism. (She once asked singer Jang Giha on TV what he was like in bed)

5. [+244, -12] People who are actually pretty don't care whether someone compliments them like this or not.

6. [+219, -12] I wonder if she'd still get mad if a hot Italian man went up to her and said, "Even a pretty senorita like you works?"

7. [+219, -11] Obviously the taxi driver was just being nice to a customer. I'd just be like thanks and move on with my day;; I seriously don't understand this woman, even as a fellow woman.

8. [+204, -9] Talk about an overreaction ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

9. [+199, -8] I'm 31 years old and even I know to just move on with my day. I would've said something like, "Right? It's the weekend so it sucks to be working..." The taxi driver was obviously trying to make small talk with her but she takes it so seriously.. I bet she made a nasty facial expression at him too.

10. [+151, -8] As a woman myself, I fail to understand her point of view. If even the littlest of things like this makes her uncomfortable, she should not leave her house and just work from home. She's so sensitive.

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Source: Naver

1. [+134, -3] She foams at the mouth over a taxi driver giving her a compliment and calls it misogyny while she goes on TV and makes sexually suggestive comments against men. Backwards feminism.

2. [+98, -2] Why is someone who clearly has mental issues out on TV as a sex columnist or whatever? Broadcast channels are obviously using her as viewer bait. Please realize the implications your TV shows have on society.

3. [+76, -6] The journalist's sense ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

4. [+52, -3] ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

5. [+48, -0] Is she on a downward spiral now?

6. [+20, -2] I don't have a right to say anything if she herself felt offended by it. And I'm sure that many other women would feel the same way in that situation. However, Kwak Jung Eun has a history of hypocritical actions so it's ridiculous that she's making a big deal out of this. Just because she's a sex columnist, she makes sexual comments against other celebrities on TV and then acts like a victim while blaming the PDs whenever a controversy erupts to avoid responsibility. She's just extremely hypocritical.

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378 comments:

  1. yikes at these comments

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  2. ...?? i'd feel uncomfortable too if some creep called me any kind of petname... .....

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  3. What's wrong with him saying that..it would be nice if someone did the same to me.

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  4. Learn to take a compliment, geez.

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  5. Well I think it depends on the type of person. I think I would feel uncomfortable if a stranger called me pet names like "pretty princess."

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  6. i suppose u met him and u know he is a creep

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  7. honestly what he said is creepy as hell? who the fuck wouldn't feel uncomfortable being called a 'pretty princess' by a random man? sorry but she's like 110% right on this one

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  8. Well she kinda overreacted. I don't think the taxi driver meant any harm with what he said. But if I were her, I'd also feel uncomfortable if a stranger calls me names even if it's a nice one.

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  9. If he just called her pretty it would be ok but 'pretty princess' is kinda, I don't know. I think we should be there to judge that, maybe that was joke or maybe compliment.

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  10. well one thing is being uncomfortable but another is creating drama out of it

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  11. Hannah Eusun LeeMay 24, 2015 at 5:33 PM

    can i be called a pretty princess? haha

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  12. Some people like compliments and some people don't like random people commenting on their looks and that's their right. I've had sleazes say stuff like "hey sweetheart" to me and it feels so icky.

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  13. honestly don't think the rest of us should judge the taxi driver since we weren't there and don't know what he was like

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  14. That's pretty inappropriate and rude though. Not to mention condescending.


    I don't see anything wrong with her explaining and expressing her grievances too. That's her job isn't it?

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  15. Perhaps she was in period.. *women 's weapon*

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  16. Maybe the driver just tried to be nice and you know, strike a casual conversation to not be awkward. I'd accept a compliment like that any day.

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  17. 'Do even pretty princesses like you work?'



    Um.. I find this very offensive.

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  18. he was obviously calling her that in a mocking way while complimenting her looks. So pretty princesses can't work? And who are you to call a woman that. Very creepy and dumb.

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  19. This is kind of how I feel about catcalling. It's uncalled for and makes people uncomfortable

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  20. NoonaLovesKookieMay 24, 2015 at 5:35 PM

    If as stranger calls me petnames, I would get uncomfortable too. Even if they're not a stranger. Like at work, there is a man in his 50s who likes to call the (pretty) females in the office 'sweetheart' and that is so unprofessional and inappropriate.

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  21. Isn't Senorita Spanish though?

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  22. I think the driver was just trying to be friendly and calling her pretty is fine to me, but adding a princess at the back is just...... it's like an intimate pet name for some but they're complete strangers in this case.

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  23. I can see being annoyed at the taxi driver, but really, it's such a small thing if you think about it. Just ignore what the driver said and carry on as normal. I've had guys call me a "fucking dyke" for not wanting to talk to them or hug them, or threatening to show me their dicks. I'd much rather be called a princess, quietly side-eye the dude and be on my way.

    4. [+281, -9] So a taxi driver being nice and calling her a princess is
    putting down women but she can go around and make sexually suggestive
    comments about male celebrities and expects it to be passed off as
    'cool'? This is what you call backwards feminism. (She once asked singer
    Jang Giha on TV what he was like in bed)

    This, though. It's usually people who are so eager to dish it out who often can't take the same kind of attitude thrown back at them.

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  24. If she was uncomfortable then she has the right to be. No one can really dictate if someone is allowed to be offended/uncomfortable or not.

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  25. Yeah but he is a taxi driver and probably an old man..All he did was compliment his customer..

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  26. something about "pretty princess" and his entire comment is very belittling so i'm not surprised she found it offensive

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  27. It's like catcalling. Really uncalled for

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  28. Well that's how YOU might perceive it, but she didn't appreciate it. Bottom line is his comment was kind of misogynistic for sure, but different people will take it different ways. I don't see anything wrong with her saying it made her uncomfortable.

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  29. to me it does if you're a complete stranger

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  30. Nate's vicious to everyone it seems...

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  31. Nothing wrong with feeling uncomfortable with a stranger calling you pretty and using a petname, just as there's nothing wrong with someone (taxi driver) wanting to do some small talk, or just smiling and nodding your head at such comments.
    Only the driver himself knows what he really ment, we can't judge either one of them, although if it was me wanting to do small talk, I wouldn't start with calling someone pretty or princess, but at the same time it's a common thing to see older (uncle type) males use petnames, just that one never know if they are being creepy or just honestly kind, especially with how almost anything can be taken the wrong way nowadays.

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  32. You can't honestly expect everyone to know if someone likes compliments or not when you just met them, but i get your point. Hard to understand, because i come from a very coservative

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  33. The idea that women should be gratefull for sleazy compliments is ridiculous. Plus being shocked that a woman works is just belittling and disgusting.

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  34. He really could've been old and just making conversation but she's not wrong for being uncomfortable with it either. People think commenting on women's appearance is always fair game when it shouldn't be.

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  35. Oh my god, women work, pigs are flying. /gasp

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  36. The thing is though she's basically stuck in this cab with some guy saying creepy/weird/rude shit to her, who knows what he could do.


    I think it would be as you said if she was in an open environment like a date or on the street or something, then I'd probably advise her to just keep walking too.

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  37. The "pet name" doesn't really bother me to be honest but as she said, is the fact that he thinks women (at least those he deems as pretty) shouldn't work.

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  38. It's not so much the 'pretty princess' part but where the taxi driver condescends and is surprised that a pretty woman works. Honestly that's just kind of sexist because why can't a woman be pretty and have a capable job

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  39. Yeah, this article is asking to create some buzz and hate from the public but no one really knew the situation or what type of person the taxi driver was just assumptions so I don't think it's right to take either side.

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  40. Well common sense would say it's better NOT to remark first thing when you meet someone about them being a "pretty princess" too good for work. She's not at fault here.

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  41. Woman highlights her unfortunate experience of casual sexism, Korean netizens respond with collective "Calm down, dear."
    You still have a VERY long way to go, Korea.

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  42. I'm sorry but this is creepy as hell. I don't want to be called 'princess' by a stranger especially not if I am adult. I understand her very well.

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  43. 'Do even pretty princesses like you work?'
    It sounds like compliment to me.. imagine if a taxi driver says "How could you take a taxi? I thought you have wings"

    She's too sensitive..

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  44. This stuff still happens everywhere though :/ It's unfortunate.

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  45. So, she was questioned for working? Oh Korea. Your idea of Confucianism is so extreme

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  46. Look at some of the comments here. We all have a veeery long way to go. At least the reasonable folks are everywhere too.

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  47. ... who the hell thinks of someone they just met as their child?

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  48. The thing is his comment is definitely underlying assumptions about her. It's one thing to call her a "pretty princess" (weird af if you ask me) but then it's another to say he's surprised she works....like...if she's able to pay for a cab she probably has the money coming from somewhere. Nonsense assumption based on her looks.

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  49. They have such an extreme view of Confucianism that it's not really rational. Then again, most East Asian countries are like this

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  50. It comes across as really patronising. If she felt uncomfortable, then she felt uncomfortable. Other people can't dictate what should/shouldn't make people feel uncomfortable

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  51. Of course it happens everywhere, things are only *slightly* better in the West, but the fact that not even one of the comments is supportive of her feelings or recognizes the casual sexism in his statements and why they are wrong makes wee sad for women in Korean society.

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  52. in my opinion, it's not a compliment if the person on the receiving end doesn't feel like it is
    she found it patronizing, and personally i agree *shrug*

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  53. Thats a comment thats sexist as fuck

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  54. I love how they know what the taxi driver meant and how she should have felt about the situation without even being there

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  55. I would have searched for an excuse to get off as well
    Imagine you are alone with some stranger who called you pretty princess. It's uncomfortable, who calls a grown woman that

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  56. For me that's a way of harassment , for example in my country when a girl passes near to a street or something and a guy calls her 'Hey preciosa' (hey , beautiful) that's harassment. Girls don't go telling guy 'prince' or things like that so why do we have to take every single shit guys tell us?.

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  57. Well the thing is you don't even know if he said it in a sleazy way...

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  58. That's what I'm saying though, I would argue here the comments would be even worse.


    They'd probably say stuff like "if she doesn't want to be called pretty she shouldn't wear makeup" or "she's a sex columnist but she doesn't like compliments???? what a slut" stupid stuff like that that are totally irrelevant and just put her down.

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  59. amaya aguero monzonMay 24, 2015 at 5:45 PM

    I does kinda sound like an overreaction but then again it is creepy when a men you don't even know gives you a nickname when you are alone with him and he could basically drive you to wherever he wants to !!

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  60. I would be annoyed too with what the taxi driver said.

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  61. NB usually only translates negative comments, just saying.

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  62. Cause women are supposed to take these kind of harassments as compliments and should be thankful otherwise they're seen as a "bitch". Society still has a long way to go.

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  63. calling a woman a pretty princess implies she should be locked in a tower or something and asking whether they should we working is even worse. also why should only pretty women be told to stay at home

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  64. Taxi drivers are sometimes the creepiest people. I ride the taxi frequently now because there's been a bit of crime going on in my neighborhood and my mom thinks it's safer for me to ride the taxi than walk home. And the taxi is only $3 so it's pretty much the same price as my bus rides.

    One time, I made an appointment with the cab company to pick me up at my house at 6AM because I had to go somewhere. It was 6:15 and the cab still wasn't here so I called the cab company asking where my ride was. The dispatcher told me they were coming and the cab came around 6:30. I got in the cab and during the ride, the driver asked if I called the company. I replied honestly and said, "Yeah, because you were 30 minutes late." and then he said, "There was no reason to do that." And then I him mutter: "Bitch." Really, he had the nerve to call me a bitch when he wasn't doing his job correctly. -__-

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  65. "Pretty princess" sounds sleazy af.

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  66. For me, it depends on his tone of speaking and the kind of face he's making. If it's sounded degrading or he looked perverted then i'll be uncomfortable/scared. But i do still feel uncomfortable when strangers compliment my appearance out of a blue even in normal way tho, it's awkward.

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  67. Way too sensitive, maybe she would rather be called an ungrateful cow. She is clearly reading far too much into the comment, it just sounds like a charming compliment to help brighten her day.

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  68. I understand, and knets going "do you think you really pretty?" Like srsly ?!!

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  69. I guess it depends on the way he said it. To me it just sounds like he was being friendly and trying to make a small talk. But then again, if I never moved to England and hadn't gotten used to strangers calling me 'love ', 'honey' and 'pet', I probably would have found this creepy too.

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  70. Sure, you'd definitely get quite a few of your typical disgusting comments from MRAs & their ilk, but I'd bet there would also be quite a significant number of supportive comments, like in the case with the woman would filmed herself being cat-called walking the street a while ago. The total lack of supportive comments is what I find disturbing here.

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  71. One time a driver kept me locked in a cab bc he wanted to be paid cash (illegal btw to force me to pay a certain way).

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  72. It's condescending and sexist as hell though, she has every right to be pissed.

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  73. Idk about that, but NB picks comments. If you check the source there might be some. Or there might have been positive retweets to her.


    This is also Nate lol, Nate is rarely ever positive about anything.

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  74. Also, I'm still amazed after the years it took for woman to get the right to work without their husbands authorization, to vote etc that others tell them to chill out when we still hear such narrow minded comments these days.

    Our grandmas didn't go down in the streets and demonstrate for us to act like comments completely spitting on their struggle is no big deal.

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  75. Ah okay, so there's still hope, I guess. lol

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  76. Honestly I would be flattered. But we don't know the whole situation so...

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  77. I live in Brooklyn and you can't even walk across the street without a guy making a comment like this.
    "Hey Princess" or "Smile for me beautiful" that shit isn't a compliment it just makes me feel uncomfortable af just leave me alone

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  78. The comments are exactly the top 10, I didn't skip over any comments.

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  79. How did you know he was an old man or hair wanted to compliment his customer. That is all based on assumption when no one knows who the taxi driver was or the situation. It's not wrong for her to feel that way because people have different types of reactions.

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  80. Was this posted in another site, live Naver?

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  81. Idk if you have a tumblr or anything but there's lots of I guess...more progressive(?) korean bloggers out there. They even comment on kpop and stuff. NB is nice for something to react to but you should never really take it as a true demonstration of korea as a whole. Esp if the article comes from Nate lol.

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  82. i would be uncomfortable too but not everyone are creepy sometimes the taxi drivers are being nice and try to start a conversation during the way !
    it happend to me few times... she should have answered him without getting mad that much! ...

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  83. It honestly could sound demeaning depending on context though even if he didn't mean offense by it tbh

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  84. In my country, some older people call us 'son' or 'daughter' even if we're not related or have met them the first time. That's how different culture can get.

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  85. me too... those kind of comments offended me

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  86. Yeah, I'll add them for you right now. The comments are pretty much the same.

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  87. The driver's comment was sexist but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he also calls his male passengers handsome prince. XD

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  88. That's terrifying... In my country, taxis aren't allowed to have those old car locks, the poles that slide down(?), the locks have to be modern. You should always check before you get in the cab, just in case. I am always paranoid whenever I go out (and I'm alone) because during my first semester at college, this guy used to stalk me on my way to school (on the bus, he used to sit next to me on an EMPTY bus and kept touching my hips/lap. I told the bus driver and he was kicked off.) and this stalker once followed me off the bus and I ran into a church for someone to pick me up. That's why I stick my keys inside the gaps of my fingers (like Wolverine), just in case something bad happens and then I could jab the person in their eye. lol

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  89. What a hypocrite.

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  90. i personally have no problems with these kind of remarks but hey if it makes you feel uncomfortable, man sucks for you but i honestly dont care and will move on to another article now. really people, no need to call her strange for expressing the way she's feeling.

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  91. Oh no :/ But thanks!

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  92. I wouldn't mind if a man called me that, tbh. But the taxi driver was probably on the older side of the scale. And we all know how traditional and conservative most old ppl are.

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  93. sorry but that's not a compliment to me, i would feel very offended if a stranger said that to me

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  94. Honestly, the world is not a safe place and unfortunately it is even less for women. You cannot assume a person is just complementing you, especially a stranger, they could be a rapist, a murder, or a pedophile. Maybe he was just being friendly, but if someone called you a "pretty princesses" when it's just the two of you alone in a taxi (and you aren't the one driving), would you really want to take that chance? I'd be even more careful in a country like Korea where rapists and sexual assault criminals get light sentences...

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  95. Tbh we don't even know if he really said that at all, nobody was there to witness it except her and the driver. It's just a one sided story. But as always Knetz have taken one side and Inetz here are taking another.

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  96. I wouldn't mind if someone called me a 'pretty princess', but it's still creepy though. I would, however, be offended at his comment implying that 'pretty people' don't work.

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  97. she should have trolled him XD like does old people like u even work? they should be at home now surrounded by their grand children :P and if his young make it "should be partying"

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  98. Korean is a much different language in English. Maybe 'Princess' is not really a pet name but a 'new' word they use to address to woman like Madam or Miss.. It's hard to explain to people who does not have a second language.

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  99. I know that's disgusting, even if someone whistle me on the streets I feel disgusted and uncomfortable. I remember one time I was going home and I passed near to a car and a guy called 'mamita' I went straight home and cried, fortunately my brother was there and he went to face the dude. :( My friends told me I have learn to fight back and answer like ' fxxx u' and that kind of stuffs.

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  100. Umm, here in the U.S some strangees call me sweetie, sweetheart, or honey. And i'm not even their child! Am i supposed to be offended?

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  101. Pretty Princess would have made me feel uncomfortable, but the insinuation that pretty girls don't work would have really pissed me off.

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  102. I live in Brooklyn and you can't even walk across the street without a guy making sleezy comments like this.
    "Hey Princess" or "Smile for me beautiful" that shit isn't a compliment it makes me feel uncomfortable af just leave me alone

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  103. This reminds me of how people tell women they should be honored when they're cat called. It's disgusting.

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  104. Senorita is in Spanish but It's pronounced similar in Italian I think it's written as signorina (?) something like that.

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  105. Honestly, if you say fuck off or something like this you're only giving them attention and it'll encourage them to keep bothering you, just keep walking like you heard nothing, that's the best option in this type of situation.

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  106. In relationship with food oppaMay 24, 2015 at 6:01 PM

    this happens to me too,i used to work with older ppl at whom i dont know at all cuz there are lots of us, but they call me sweetheart,honey etc too both older men and women at my aunt/uncle and grandpa/grandpa age, im not offended at all, i actually kinda like it cuz it makes me feel like im a lil girl again and i havent seen my grandparents for a long time,it warms my heart.or maybe its just me

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  107. omg seriously? I'd call too just in case whomever I had called to schedule with forgot to write it down. you always call to make sure they didn't forget you.

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  108. It doesn't matter whether the man meant it as a compliment or in a fatherly way, I think getting asked those kind of things by a stranger would make anyone uncomfortable. I don't see anything weird about that.

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  109. What harrassment? You are all overreacting. I understand how it feels to be cat called and whistled and it's really annoying but I think the case here is that the driver just wants to start the conversation by complimenting her.


    Most probably "Pretty Princess' is not as creepy as it sounds in Korean so the knetz are responding like that.

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  110. I was called a sweety once and then when I replied with "I am not a sweety" the guy went all "Oh playing hard to get don't you". I just left without saying another word.

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  111. Keyboards in the U.S. don't have the "ñ" key :(

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  112. yeah, but she's also a sex columnist.. so asking those questions is part of her job? right? (maybe not.. I'm not actually sure what a sex columnist does..)

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  113. It's about patience or preference. I don't like strangers talking to me about semsitive things or like they are close to me. And for independent women that did sound right. It's not about being called pretty.

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  114. Yeah, I feel you. Nowadays, when I walk around alone I just put my best "resting grumpy face" on, and now I rarely get catcalled. (of course when it's hot and I'm wearing shorts/skirts/dresses not even that can save me from hearing inappropriate shit)

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  115. I suppose this is why most of these netizens view her reaction negatively though:

    6. [+20, -2] I don't have a right to say anything if she herself felt offended by it. And I'm sure that many other women would feel the same way in that situation. However, Kwak Jung Eun has a history of hypocritical actions so it's ridiculous that she's making a big deal out of this. Just because she's a sex columnist, she makes sexual comments against other celebrities on TV and then acts like a victim while blaming the PDs whenever a controversy erupts to avoid responsibility. She's just extremely hypocritical.

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  116. Once I rode a taxi, the driver said to me nicely that I'm a cute asian. I'll be like I know I'm fab, flips hair. lol

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  117. This. I'm so done with men who whistle or yell at me; whenever I'm waiting at the bus stop they do this all the time like when they're driving or walking past me. It doesn't flatter me, it just scares the sh*t outta me.

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  118. I always text someone the number of the cab I get in, in case something like that happens.


    That morning I was gonna be late to school and I had to drop my sister off (this was a few years ago I was line like grade 10). It was terrifying honestly.


    The worst part was I told my mom, who then raised hell with the company. Then he happened to pick me up some other time and then yelled at me for not "explaining the situation". I complained again and he got fired, thankfully.

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  119. Ok, so,


    1. Calling you those things does not mean they think of you as their child.


    2. I presume you live either in the Southern US or in an area with a lot of people from there. In that case, them calling you that is just how they talk in those regions.


    3. You're not supposed to be anything. If you're uncomfortable with being talked to like that, you can be, if you're not, then you're not.

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  120. I said PROBABLY he is an old man and it just seem like a compliment to me that's all.

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  121. woman is donna in italian

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  122. Yes, the same thing happens in mine, and I've used those expressions myself.


    Still does not mean people think of the person they're talking to as their child.

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  123. It's pretty hypocritical of her if she's making sexual comments towards other people.

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  124. I don't find her pretty

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  125. I think it's unfair to discredit something happening to someone just bc of what they said in the past. His comments were inappropriate, and he didn't know who she was.


    But yeah I can understand why some would ask her to consider stuff like that in the future.

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  126. Omg I hate it when people call me mija!!!

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  127. The things we have to go through on a daily basis is mentally exhausting. And some will even call you a bitch/other degrading shit if you don't react, it's truly disgusting.

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  128. It really doesn't change the fact that comments like that are unprofessional, belittling, and demeaning. I also doubt he would tell a man her age that he was a "pretty prince" and be surprised that he was working - hence, it is innately sexist.

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  129. apparently that taxi driver was hitting on her, what made the 1st comment think he just thought of her as his own daughter? what the hell is wrong with these people?

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  130. My taxi drivers always asks me where i am from and starts talking about my country since im a foreign student. lol


    but ironic that she is a sex columnist who im sure talks about others like that on her columns and now she is creating a fuss about being called a princess

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  131. Oo, lucky guess about me living in the southern states lol. Guess it's really a southern thing ._.

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  132. IthoughtIkneweverythingMay 24, 2015 at 6:13 PM

    irk!!..it is always that way in NB …plus knetz and Inetz rarely agree with each other..I find that amusing and ridicules at times lol

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  133. if i was her i would of smacked him in the face.

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  134. You kind of have to take into consideration that pretty princess in english doesn't have the same connotations as it does in korean.

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  135. in my country those kind of word is compliment. so I dont get it why she offended with it. but maybe the taxi driver was using word that inpolite, so she offended

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  136. Yes I know. But I think it's normal that people would view it negatively since it makes little sense to find a type of speech inappropriate, knowing it's off-putting, but doing the same thing to others.


    I saw some comments implying Korea is sooo backwards and things like that, and some people kind of reflected it on themselves and guessed the cab driver was hitting on her/catcalling, so I figured some of these people might have skipped over the part where it was explained. But yeah.

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  137. defining someone by their looks. hmmmm where have i seen that before. oh wait, isnt this a common occurrence among fans of kpop? wonder who's being hypocritical?

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  138. 6. [+219, -12] I wonder if she'd still get mad if a hot Italian man went up to her and said, "Even a pretty senorita like you works?"



    why would an Italian man use a Spanish word though

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  139. The context in which he said it is really sleazy though.

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  140. MyFaceAtAllTheTryHardBullshitMay 24, 2015 at 6:17 PM

    It was also patronising as fuck. Calling a grown woman princess is belittling, especially when it is paired with questioning their capabilities.

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  141. To show how much of a tool he is

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  142. Come on. So just because you look good it has to mean that you can't work? So you have to look like shit to prove to people that you CAN work? Lmao.

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  143. Yeah, it's so mentally exhausting. I had boys come up to me and ask for my number/hugs and I'm literally too scared to say no because I don't know how they will react, I've been in bad situations in the past so now I'm a bit frighten tbh, It honestly sucks lol

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  144. I imagined it happening and I'm just laughing omg

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  145. They're advancing and now they can harass you in 2 languages!!!

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  146. Signorina -> miss
    Signora -> mrs

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  147. Italian men cat calling is usually "ciao bella" but hey k-netz know best

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  148. The "ñ" key doesn't exist but I think you can find the "~". Spanish also use qwerty keyboards

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  149. A few months ago I was on a basically empty train to go to university and a man sat down on the seat on my right and he started touching is crocth. I felt so uncomfortable that I had to move to another seat. When I got to university and I told my friends what happened, they laughed because they thought I was overreacting. I felt so bad.

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  150. It doesn't sound like a compliment to me. It is very creepy to get complimented by a stranger, not to mention his remark about how pretty women don't work? That, to me, suggests he thinks beautiful women don't need to work, they just leech off men. I don't see how that is supposed to be a compliment unless you like being likened to a gold digger.

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  151. This! If you react you are a slut or bitch. If you don't react you are still a slut or bitch. It's so disgusting.

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  152. "6. [+219, -12] I wonder if she'd still get mad if a hot Italian man went up to her and said, "Even a pretty senorita like you works?""

    Except "señorita" is spanish and not italian lmao

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  153. lol these comments

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  154. ...if you're referring to me, english is my second language though

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  155. 9. [+199, -8] I'm 31 years old and even I know to just move on with my day. I would've said something like, "Right? It's the weekend so it sucks to be working..." The taxi driver was obviously trying to make small talk with her but she takes it so seriously.. I bet she made a nasty facial expression at him too.



    yup. he probably didn't mean it at a place of malice honestly... it was quite obviously small talk

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  156. I can understand that he thinks of her as his daughter because in my country old people do that all the time "yavrum/kızım/oğlum/çocuğum etc.". Maybe old people in Korea use the word "princess", I don't know.

    But asking her why she has to work...is a bit weird.

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  157. You say west but in my country it doesn't happen and it's a western country.

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  158. I just write "ni" instead since it sound similar.. like "seniorita, anio, etc.."

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  159. Hate to break it to everyone, but this happens everywhere in the world. Not just Korea. These guys are taxi drivers, not saints. Gotta expect the worst and hope for the best. Otherwise don't take a taxi, first place.

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  160. she looks kinda old to be called a pretty princess

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  161. Men or women, both can drive you wherever they want.

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  162. I don`t know... we as mere readers are obviously missing the context behind the situation that the conversation took place in. On one side, I`m thinking that the taxi driver merely complimented her just like he probably does with other women; maybe he`s one of those compliment-heavy gentlemen.


    On the other side, we don`t know the tone of voice in which he said it in: maybe it was laced with subtle sarcasm directed towards her appearance. I don't really know this woman so I'm not aware if she has always reacted like this to these types of "compliments". Some might mistake her for a high-maintenance snobby b*tch or a hardcore feminist while that may not be either at all.

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  163. I find it incredibly difficult to believe that a grown man of any age who calls a grown woman a 'pretty princess', while insinuating that due to her sexually appealing physical appearance, she is probably not professionally employed, doesn't have the underlying intention of sexually objectifying her. What man looks at this woman, who is clearly a mature adult person, and thinks 'I'm going to *completely innocently* *compliment* her by referring to her by a *pet name* that is both blatantly infantilising, reductive and condescending but oh it's just because I think of this (grown-ass, middle aged, tax-paying) woman aS My ChiLD!' That is just so fucking laughably implausible and honestly quite naive, arguably to a fault. It's nice to take the stance that perhaps this taxi driver had pleasant intentions but that is so often, demonstrably, not the case that thinking this way can even prove to be dangerous if you allow yourself to be manipulated by these apparent 'compliments'. Men in our patriarchal society are conditioned to think treating women this way: making sleazy comments, catcalling, making backhanded compliments praising a woman on her appearance while simultaneously belittling her intelligence is okay, so unsurprisingly, many men engage in this behaviour. I imagine in conservative Korea where feminism hasn't yet progressed as far as other areas, this problem is further magnified. To deny what it is or to make excuses despite an overwhelming number of exemplar cases evidencing how skeevy men can be towards a woman is doing no one any favours.
    So no I completely disagree I think he is being creepy and though he might have thought his actions were innocent, they were still very misogynistic and she had a definite right to be offended.

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  164. That is wildly different from calling a grown woman a 'pretty princess'

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  165. ask them what they would have thought if they were the ones sitting beside a man touching his crotch.
    i understand you, you had a perfectly normal reaction imo

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  166. but the way he said it was a little bit condescendant imo but it depends on his tone so it's hard to tell.
    rather than sexist it's patronizing.

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  167. I dont know if it's the same or not but few days ago i had the same condition. I took public transport and sat right behind the driver, suddenly he asked me things like, "Do you work there? Are you a student? What is your race? Do you have any boyfriend? Can i know your name?" with flirty accent. Those were disturbing and somehow harrassing!!!

    I couldnt get out of the car, because it was a queuing system and that car was the first in line, so i just pretended getting calls from my imaginary fiancee and he stopped asking but still trying to steal a look from me. Ugh!

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  168. so he called her a pretty princess, big whoop.

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  169. Lol chill It's a pretty suckish weekend where you need to work your butt off and a taxi driver just wanna make you feel better about your endless workload by calling you pretty. Imagine how less stressed you will be. Idk about you guys but I will feel so much better.

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  170. Also taxis are DANGEROUS. You're in a confined area with someone that can easily dictate where you're going. It's completely normal to be scares/uncomfortable/feel unsafe when the guy driving it makes sexist/condescending/unwanted remarks

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  171. i agree the comment about the italian hot guy. she probably wouldnt complain and smile ear to ear....

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  172. i think it depends on the tone, and if he said something else aside from what she shared. Mostly it´s just a small talk or endearment, like the taxi driver thought of her as his daughter/grandchild. In Spanish speaking countries, you often hear people in service call their customers mi amor or princesa as endearments and there´s really nothing to it.

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  173. Erm, in my country? Its normal for an older person to treat you as their children. They do it out of love and years of experience of living, and we follow along out of respect.

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  174. I think he was just being casual. Never knew giving a compliment was a taboo. Even when he said 'should a pretty one like you work?', he was just trying to be polite. He didn't mean it literally. She aint no Song Hye Kyo what was she thinking loool
    I would be flattered if someone told me that.

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  175. Well, it doesn't change the meaning of the word. So it's okay. x)

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  176. Yes haha I lived in Alabama and /I'm Hispanic/ so it's really odd to me seeing people react like this xD I guess, we are just kind of used to it. Most of the time people calling u petnames mean no harm xD

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  177. True, I forgot about it :)

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  178. That true but at the same time
    If she's making sexual comments against men without their permission, then she's doing to someone else exactly what she doesn't want to get done to her.

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  179. So she's a hypocrite, fine, but that doesn't all of a sudden mean his comments are acceptable.

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  180. Lol. So true. Why should women be grateful/happy getting pet name from a completely unknown older male? I guess Im not the only one who feel uncomfortable/disgust when older male do this to me. Why can taxi driver treat her like he treat every other customers?


    Though I disagree that she rants on Twitter and people are just vultures these days to clash on anything just to hate.

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  181. Ok now lets turn the table. An ajhumma is selling triangle kimbaps in a market. A good looking young man comes to buy kimbaps. She says "do even handsome man like you eat kimbab?"


    Noone would bat an eye now would they? They're probably say aigooo so cute ajhumma.


    Women always make a big deal out of everything. Call her ugly, she will get mad, call her pretty she will get mad.

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  182. She didn't like his way of thinking. That's clearly what set her off. She stated that in her explanation. w/o context the 'message' that was conveyed to her through his words is what bothered her. Certain things set certain ppl off. Was it intentional, probably not.

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  183. people have 'complimented' me like this since i was 11 & these comments remind me this is socially acceptable

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  184. The "pretty princesses" makes the comment sexist. Take the "pretty princesses" part out and the statement is still insulting. "Do even [fill in the blank here] like you work?" That's so condescending.

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  185. Now having self respect is a bad thing? jesus.

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  186. I never said it was at all, I agree with you it's disgusting

    But I'm saying let's not act like she's an angel either
    What he said was uncalled for
    And what she does is uncalled for two wrongs don't make a right

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  187. i live in the US too and the only times i've heard those nicknames were from female teachers, which doesn't offend me bc they definitely don't mean it in a degrading way. and those nicknames definitely arent the same as pretty princess.

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  188. Not really I'm from the south and my grandmother and great aunts don't call anyone sweetie, dear, or honey.

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  189. The situation that they were in makes it obviously sleazy.

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  190. As a sex columnist she could answer the sexual questions of readers in or columns or just discuss sexual things, but that doesn't mean that she has to ask idols or other stars about their sex lives.

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  191. You don't understand the point... what OP meant was that when she got into that taxi he had power over her and him making that kind of comment to her obviously made her feel offended but for other people it could've been downright scary. There are too many cases of taxi kidnappings in my country and a male driver making a sleazy comment to me while I'm in his cab makes me feel threatened

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  192. For the little information given that wasn't even such a horrible thing to say. Over analyzing things people say will leave you frustrated and mad all the time. Was his tone off? Was he making sexual or and other offending comments? If not I don't see why this would anger anyone

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  193. Even in the workplace I'm expected to grit my teeth and bear it when my boss calls females employees 'honey; or 'darling' in a completely condescending and innappropriate manner.Women are socialized to let this kind of behaviour sldie for fear of being seen as the 'bitch' who's uptight.no sense of humor, etc

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  194. disqus_fMXNmwdJ9OMay 24, 2015 at 7:47 PM

    Being alone with a male calling you pretty princess is scaring so hell yeah! We are not obligate to "take compliments" and appreciate the fact that we were not raped.
    Praise to her

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  195. amaya aguero monzonMay 24, 2015 at 7:47 PM

    lolol soo ? in this case it was guy and she had every right to feel uncomfortable even if the guy was thinking he was being nice !

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