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Sunday, May 24, 2015

[Instiz] 10 minute against T-ara at 'Dream Concert 2015'?

Instiz: The severe situation of the 2015 Dream Concert 10 minute

"First of all, what is a '10 minute'? It's when the audience embarrasses the singer/group they hate by turning off all light sticks and staying silent during their stage.

For comparison, this was a 10 minute against another girl group. And the last picture was during the 2015 Dream Concert at T-ara's stage. Not one light can be seen in the crowd."





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"Stuff like 10 minutes really need to be gotten rid of. This isn't some child's play."

"Nobody sang along but I did see some light sticks turned on."

"Daebak..."

"Even if the crowd wanted to sing along, we couldn't because they were singing in... Chinese..."

"SNSD suffered this boycott as well."

"Hul this is scary."

"I saw a lot of light sticks on..."

"Sigh, why does this happen ㅠㅠㅠ"

"Did you actually attend the concert? Or are you judging based on videos? Because while the definition of 10 minute is right, it's also something that is pre-planned by the audience, which never happened. As someone who actually attended the concert, everyone had their light sticks on and chanted loudly for EXID, SECRET, etc. I do admit that the crowd was quiet during T-ara's stage but it's not like their song was as popular as the other groups and I myself didn't know the song at all so I couldn't sing along. One thing's for sure and it's that not everyone had their light sticks turned off. There was no 10 minute at the Dream Concert."

"I was at the concert yesterday, everyone had their light sticks on. It's just that no one knew what their song was so we couldn't sing along."

"Everyone on EXO-L's side had their light sticks on.. I think the picture is just a difference in angles."

"I was there, nobody cheered for the stage because we didn't know what their song was. No one purposely turned their light sticks off or chose not to react..."

"People had their light sticks on but they didn't wave them... and no one cheered for T-ara during the line-up introduction, it's true. I don't think the crowd was as dark as the picture shows, though."

"How are we supposed to sing along to their Chinese song...?"

"A 10 minute is much more planned by fandoms than this. I never heard of talk about a 10 minute for T-ara before the concert."

"People keep saying that they had their light sticks on but the picture doesn't show any light... Was it just a portion of the audience?"
- "Sometimes videos don't catch all of the light."
- "Well it shows SHINee's section with their light sticks on, how come only their light was captured..?"

"10 minute is usually an effort by united fandoms... T-ara's 10 minute was just a result of individuals acting on their own. I was at the concert and people didn't really cheer for them. At least no one around me did."

"Here are more pictures. First is during EXID's stage, second is during T-ara's stage."



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745 comments:

  1. God Bless the kind of peoples.

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  2. Black ocean is probably the worst thing in kpop.

    Like how mean do u have to be to di that to someone.

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  3. Shit journalism

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  4. Worst thing is pushing it but yeah it's pretty bad.

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  5. Most knetz are like those ex obsessed crazy girlfriend who can't seem to move on or accept that their ex bf has someone else already lol

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  6. 탱팬인듯탱팬아닌탱팬같은나May 24, 2015 at 8:33 AM

    i think some did turned off the lightsticks but idt it could be called a black ocean like what happened to SNSD before... after all, t-ara songs were indeed less popular... i cant sing along too

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  7. i thought it was called black ocean
    new name?

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  8. i can see shinee light sticks are still on ~

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  9. I'm glad that many people clarified the real situation. Anyway you can't blame the Korean audience to not sing along a Chinese song. Why Tara do that though? Why not sing their korean song? Are there many chinese audience there?

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  10. This is ridiculous and childish. A foolish act and most disrespectful

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  11. i went to dream con yesterday and people did turn their lightsick off. obviously not everyone but some fan sections turned their lightsticks off for them.

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  12. Make sure you went to the concert first or at least had solid proof before saying shit lol good thing a lot clarified this.

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  13. T-ara was bigger than snsd at some point. Their songs outsold many of snsd's songs.

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  14. Yes.. most likely the journalist want to stir things.

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  15. That's why don't eat all what journalists feed on us~

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  16. sorry but just because t-ara's songs outsold some of snsd's songs doesn't mean they're bigger, the public knows more about snsd than t-ara even before all this stupid "bullying" scandal

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  17. "Little Apple" is a Korean song, they sang in Korean. That netizen was being rude and making fun of their popularity in China.

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  18. EXO-L & SHAWOL seats are so brightt <333

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  19. It is pretty horrible. So far, only SNSD has had one right? T-ara didn't have one yesterday and you'll see that in the fancam (which I will post once I find it). Is there anyone asides from SNSD?

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  20. only snsd suffered from black ocean

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  21. 탱팬인듯탱팬아닌탱팬같은나May 24, 2015 at 8:41 AM

    they did have good songs but the past is alr the past... ^^;;;

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  22. Your logic and op's logic is straight stupid. So just because snsd was popular at the time, people didn't know the lyrics to T-ara's songs? What kind of logic is that?

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  23. You were talking about the past though. "T-ara songs were less popular".

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  24. Scary, hehe. And embarrassing. Guess knetz really aren't all talk of their dislike for t-ara.

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  25. WannabeXenophileMay 24, 2015 at 8:42 AM

    Here was I thinking: '10 minute? A 4Minute sub unit?'.
    Anyway, if what the fans there said is true and it wasn't intentional, they didn't know the song etc, fair enough. If it isn't, not everyone will like all pop groups *shrugs*

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  26. Who said about people not knowing t-ara's songs? You're being an idiot i said snsd is more known by korean public than t-ara not the song, you're putting ridiculous words in your stupid own mouth

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  27. ?? I never said it happened this time i said its worst thing in kpop

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  28. 탱팬인듯탱팬아닌탱팬같은나May 24, 2015 at 8:43 AM

    i mean "the songs they sang at the DC" were less popular to EXID's songs so obviously ppl couldnt sing along to it zzz
    no one is talking abt their golden past here...

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  29. The first image is from exid perf? right??

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  30. most of the song is in korean.

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  31. they're not saying that you said it happened this time, they're saying that black ocean isn't the worst thing that can happen in kpop.

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  32. It's not just about how much you sell though. SNSD's influence as well as the individual members' popularity was still bigger than T-ara back in their peak. Their fandom was strong too.

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  33. You're dumb as FUCK LOL. I made my comment in the context of op's post you idiot. Why don't you read a little and find out.

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  34. I don't understand this kind of treatment against t-ara.

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  35. I watched youtube, why did the cameramen only shoot t-ara during their perfomance, but when others perform, the cameramen shoot the crowd too?

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  36. well then that is my error then hahaha i didn't refresh or shit

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  37. Tbfh, shinee's colour was shining throughout the night. From what I heard and see nearly no one cheered or sang for Tara, but their light sticks were on. I have often wondered what t-ara's status might be if they didn't have that bully scandal. Their songs used to be my favs out of girl groups, they used to be so popular as well with bo peep, roly poly, sigh* the good old days

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  38. Stream and Concert was sponsored by a Chinese company so of course they have to sing in Chinese.

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  39. because the crowd was dead sadly

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  40. But they're talking about the present not the past. The song they sang at Dream Concert yesterday really was less popular than anything SNSD has ever released. No one even knew the song. Especially since it was in Chinese. You can't expect people to sing along to a song they don't know.

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  41. Black Ocean is all about power. I watched the snsd black ocean and it brought me to tears even if im no hard core fan of them. to see a small bunch of pink lights cheering and the girls singing their hearts out infront of thousands of people who hate them. so did snsd attend and did sones participate in this?

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  42. Little apple is a chinese song but it tara release it as a korean cover.

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  43. fyi, little apple is originally a chinese song by the chopstick brothers, t-ara remade it

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  44. snsd didn't attend this year's dream concert

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  45. So a "10 minute" is a Black Ocean?

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  46. *pats pats* Nope, SNSD didn't attend this year's DC, nor TTS.

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  47. the truth already came out that it said the bullying was fake.. but? why?

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  48. that was only a pann post. didnt make the headlines

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  49. i would do anything just to see them slay again on the charts :(( honestly they have the best discography and their debut album is one of the best kpop albums (if not the best)

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  50. well then you're being dumb you could've replied to the op's and not to mine? because my comment and post are to fcking different things lol

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  51. This isnt the first time tbh past dream concerts were similar for them. In one of the collective kpop concerts, some of the audience turned their back towards them ugh

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  52. "Even if the crowd wanted to sing along, we couldn't because they were singing in... Chinese..."

    they do have a point. I'm disappointed that they actually chose that song. It wasn't entirely in Chinese, only the chorus was but still no one knew it. They could've just gone with Roly Poly or their previous hits

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  53. i really love shawols..they are a good fandom thats why sone loves them..they support other artist..poor t-ara..snsd suffer from this treatment hope no one suffers again

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  54. joyislovejoyislifeMay 24, 2015 at 8:57 AM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvOPcG_UOuE



    lol wat

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  55. Ah, thank you for clarifying!

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  56. these kind of childish action really needs to stop. btw let's give shawol a big round of applause for didn't turn their lightstick off even though shinee was the last performer.

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  57. If it was true i can't imagine how T-ara and their fans would have felt...so disrespectful.

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  58. im t-ara fan..n i kind of understand the situation the song not really popular there...they myb perform cause it also been stream live to china..but glad people who attend kind of defend them rather than said they deserve it or so what like alwayss..

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  59. Thank goodness there were clarifying comments. If there wasn't fans woukd be getting bashed relentlessly. EXID got one of the loudest cheers, every section was singing along to up and down. And when people turn off the lightstick its because some lightstick don't last long, so they save it for their biases and use a dimmer phone light in the meantime.

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  60. henry and zhou mi have to suffer from black ocean whenever they perform in china and korea

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  61. Thank god this is not another childish boycott, as least from the people who actually attended to the concert said there had lightstick on.

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  62. Star can't shine without darkness.

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  63. Yo serious question. Can the people on this website not read?

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  64. I am a SONE and I understand this very well. Nobody deserve Black ocean.

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  65. THis is funny but the song lasts for about 3 mins. But 10 mins? Only idiots belive in those lies. And I am sure that there is no black ocean . Watch from 2:48 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BxOKPX9_2o

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  66. not really https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_KOYa2VLJU

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  67. it was really horrible thing done by the fans.... i dont know why would anyone wants to do that to any group. no one deserves black ocean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9QshGWDu9k

    i am glad that SNSD rise above hate and proved everyone wrong who didnt gave them a chance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us8DyWzxwo4

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  68. no one deserves black ocean. thumbs up to shawols and exols who turnt their lighsticks on throughout the concert. but I guess I saw no black ocean and also there was a huge mess on twitter yesterday planning to black ocean exo.. don't do thing that most likely you don't want it to happen to your groups, seriously.

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  69. Totally agreed and right now they're the wall everyone can't climb over.

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  70. Why did they do a black ocean on SNSD?

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  71. Omg what I just realized, so sad that T-ARA become like this T-T I miss roly poly era~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05OQ8W02REs

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  72. this article everyone is what a "Malicious article" looks like. Serves no purpose but to stir up hate based on very low or biased opinions or evidence! people didnt cheer during the songs, but at the end of each song the cheers were pretty good ! and no they didnt suffer a black ocean ! most people had their light sticks on !

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  73. Tbh that was kind of dumb tho why did they sing Little apple .. it's not really popular in korea it' a chinese song..
    They should've done Sugar free :(

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  74. is that their tokyo dome concert on the bottom?

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  75. I wonder if the fans in the crowd who turned off their lightsticks would have appreciated if others did the same thing they did to T-Ara or SNSD.

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  76. Because the live show was being broadcast by a Chinese channel. That's how all of us watched it live yesterday. Plus, they're quite popular for a K-pop group in China?

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  77. all idols have faults and make mistakes because they're human. all idols work hard and love to perform so why do immature fans have to ruin it for them over small mistakes they've made in the past. it's so petty. and it's usually girl groups that suffer.

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  78. People need to stop acting like "black ocean" is some proverbial dagger through the heart of idols. Some fools make it out to be this unimaginable horror on par with the plague, that mentally destroys idols and leads to suicides, tears and sh*t. Tara are a group who embarrassed themselves in America for the lolz, somehow I doubt a few children choosing not to wave a glorified candle is going to affect them too badly. They'll Proly pocket the pay cheque and go back to China. No harm done.

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  79. its basically jealous fangirls of TVXQ SUJU and SS501 who were jealous that SNSD members were close to their oppas SM used to promote SNSD with TVXQ and Suju back then that was made SNSD drown in hate also Wonder Girls fandom joined to give black ocean to SNSD

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  80. A lot of girl groups didn't weirdly, Apink SNSD Girls Day 2NE1 and a few others

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  81. yeah , u can see the big donut there

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  82. LOL, then what's the point of this post if everyone's lightsticks were still obviously on? To get sympathy for T-ara?

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  83. Omg this is horrible, how can they be this mean!

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  84. Well there's still a lot of things that suggest T-ara were bullies, only a few scandals got cleared. There were still so much more incidents. Also that was just a pann post not a news article

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  85. Tiffany pissed off a whole lot of people

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  86. lmfao try harder honey

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  87. Glad they didn't receive a black ocean. T-Ara don't deserve a lot of shit they receive.

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  88. Overdramatic much ,that is not even a black ocean ,clearly there were many lightsticks not just as many as exo or exid because their songs were more popular and they are more popular

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  89. watchtowerinthemorningMay 24, 2015 at 9:28 AM

    But she did? It's not as if it's not a fact + a lot of people were really fucking salty over SNSD's existence. A lot of things came together to get multiple fandoms to plot against one girl group's.

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  90. Let's be fair, what are we supposed to expect from obsessive and insecure preteen fans who thinks being disrespectful towards anyone who are rivals to their oppas and unnis is showing utmost loyalty?

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  91. They did promote the song for the Korean audience tho, but their promotions for the song were cut. I dno why

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  92. many idols have done horrible things you dont see other fans giving them black ocean the reason tiffany got hate bcoz of her weak korean and oppar's delulu fangirls were spereading rumors again SNSD and making excuses

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  93. What did Tiffany do? I know a lot of fandoms completly hated gg (particularly other sm groups) but i never heard anything specific about tiffany?

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  94. The song was mainly in Korean, just parts of the chorus were kept in Chinese (as it was a remake of a popular Chinese song). Mind you they even promoted the song on Korean music shows, but no one obviously cared

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  95. lol at peope upvoting this they reminds me the same delulu fangrils who give black ocean to SNSD

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  96. They should've sang Roly Poly or Lovey Dovey and not Little Apple. They chose the wrong song to sang yesterday. Even though it's for promotions and need to chose a latest song, Sugar Free should be up.

    Secret sang Madonna and Magic, those songs are old but they chose it because those two are their popular songs after Starlight Moonlight.

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  97. I read that the concert get broadcasted in china. And since tara is trying to get more popularity in china i think they chose to sing in chinese. Smart if you think about the limited success and love the get in korea and how big the chinese market is though the effect is smaller since most koreans of course don´t know how to sing in chinese and as a result i doubt the performance has a huge wow effect

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  98. Yeh and I explained you are wrong. Calling someone a handicap is offensive.

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  99. She corrected a senior's English (Kim Ji Suk) and said he had a bad accent and sort of took over from him without prompt by saying it the "correct way" on national tv. GG also insulted Jun Jin of Shinhwa by laughing at his dance moves v hysterically and they were made to apologize to him personally at M Countdown because even his company was enraged.

    Soshi did a lot of stupid shit when they were rookies tbh but girl groups failings are always magnetized by 1000% so it became something to throw them into the trash for for other fandoms.

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  100. they can't help to think that way. New generation idols nowadays are known for lip-syncing.

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  101. doublebubbletroubleMay 24, 2015 at 9:39 AM

    Or they could just agree that Tiffany did dumb things that made people angry at her?

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  102. EXO fighting and don't mind the haters.. they gonna stay bitter as long as you slaying their favs ;)

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  103. well it's not like Korean EXOLs were saint.

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  104. yeah, I know about that..
    but, in that time shinee still very young (rookie)..
    but, after that, is there other problem?

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  105. ......except that knets have never failed to give credit to idols whose acting is actually good. Do the names Siwan, Eunji, Sooyoung, DO, Lee Joon, Junior, Yook Sungjae etc. ring any bells to you?

    If you want to have another "waaah poor idols!" party and diss on rookie actors, then are you really trying to tell me idol actors are better than kids like Angry Mom's Ji So aka Go Bok Dong. Or Byun Yo Han, Kang Ha Neul etc?.

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  106. yeah, agree...
    many Shawol support f(x) and many f(x) fans supported shinee...
    but, are many ELF supported SNSD or many Sone supported Suju?

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  107. Yep, but she corrected him super friendly. She didn't know he studien in the USA. That was dumb, but not rude at all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy8M31HnleQ

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  108. waiting4indiansummerMay 24, 2015 at 9:44 AM

    if that's from their concert, then naturally it will be filled with lights, that's a no-brainer and not really a legit comparison with the top picture...at least make effort to use picture from same event of different year to show legit comparison, just sayin'....

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  109. They were not straining all the time..Taeyeon did say it was hard for her but she pulled it off nicely.

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  110. They know they have tons of anti-fans in Korea, they probably chose the song to appeal to the Chinese since the concert is broadcasted in China too.

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  111. So there were no such thing as black ocean during T-Ara performance than? Wow some haters work really hard to hate making op stuff like this.

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  112. But Mr.Mr outfits aren't creative!!

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  113. Watched the clip, and did hear somebody ask "Are you a retard?" right at the end. I can't really tell whose voice it is, though, since the person is distorting it to sound funny or some shit.
    But alas, this will be forgotten next day, along with that other lovely scandal of that other lovely member calling somebody autistic. Nothing new.

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  114. yeah especially the 'performance based' groups.

    You get groups like ShiBeaIn who are famed for always doing live even with hard choreo, and among girl groups EXID whose vocal skills are recognised, but they seem to be an exception and not teh rule.

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  115. She did the right thing then lol.

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  116. I see a lot of people waving their hands at them. Light sticks were on too and they screams after T-Ara's performance ends.

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  117. and how did you know that they are EXID's fans?!!!!

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  118. And when she laughed/joked around serious topics like the 2008 Sichuan earthquake SMH Tiffany was kind of an airhead back then lol

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  119. he's very talented.

    http://i.imgur.com/dlL0P2W.jpg

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  120. Tiffany is my bias in snsd but yeah she did something that offended people in the past but the important thing is she learned from her mistakes

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  121. me too, srly, he worked so hard.

    http://i.imgur.com/PcqdAJ0.jpg

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  122. [+289, -6] Oh my, why are idols seriously so good at singing? This really makes me see them in a new light
    they have position like Main Vocal. All of the main vocal in every groups are good at singing. That's why they are main vocal.

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  123. some people should stop acting like they know what the idols feel. imagine being infront of thousands who hate u and laugh at u. its not a nice feeling. we dont know how they feel either but it is not a respectful thing to do. T-ara are definitely affected by the hate they are getting from their home country. its not always about the money. they will get married and raise their kids there so they care about how they are received by their country

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  124. I'm kinda hopeless on seeing him in another 5 movies or a drama before he completely retire from acting.. Maybe I'll just settle with his cf with Shin Min Ah or rewatch his movies again.

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  125. If they said it to a retard person, I'd kill them myself. But friends talk like that among them as a joke, We are no angels. Sometimes we call our friend bitch, stupid etc. He took that down obviously to avoid trouble. So what are you mad about?

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  126. I know
    But I didn't wanna be mean lmao

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  127. 2pm and 2am debut around the same time and both sides' fans are very supportive. I remember 2pm fans supporting 2am when they performed too.

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  128. Queen Ailee looks also beautiful here.
    http://www.soompi.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ailee-tumblr.png

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  129. Juliette_has_a_gunMay 24, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    If it was JongIn for real I think I will love him even more because he couldn't be more right

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  130. That's hilarious, lol. Wonder Girls are still legendary and preferred when people compare them to Soshi and people still wait for them, TVXQ is still SM's biggest earner and Super Junior still brings home the bacon overseas. DSP destroyed SS501 and now they're persona non grata because Kim Hyun Joong's a baby-killing monster. His choices. Not Soshi's overreaching plan of revenge.

    You want to talk about karma? SNSD is way past its due for what happened to Jessica and I'm sure they'll get theirs too soon.

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  131. taeil has a baby face.

    http://i.imgur.com/d5Baf7p.jpg

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  132. hope he gets more popular.


    http://data3.whicdn.com/images/116363838/large.jpg

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  133. I know you meant well for EXO. But sometimes haters are not fans of others. They are just haters.

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  134. He is so cute. I'm not a BBC and I don't think I'll ever become one since none of their songs attract my attention but I really like this guy. He really comes off as nice and adorable to me whenever I see him on tv and honestly I don't even know why. So Taeil is his name. Lol I'm sorry that I just found out about it. I always refer him as the cute guy in glasses whenever I talk about Block B with my friends.

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  135. what'd tiffany do? (asking for clarification)

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  136. Kai what? Or did you mean to say Kahi?

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  137. netizen buzz, give it a rest already, we know you hate T-ARA

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  138. what does your comment have to do with theirs?

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  139. I love them so much it makes me laugh LMAO

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  140. i know right?
    it's so funny

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  141. What? enough spamming with you duplicate accounts already.

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  142. How do they magically know it's him..? Lol

    It doesn't sound like the word, but even if someone did say the word, it's not something that's witch-hunt worthy imo.

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  143. They sort of serve no purpose anyway... It isn't going to make the group feel embarrassed or less like performing, since the performers on stage cant actually see if all the light sticks are on or not anyway (especially if it is a night or indoor concert). They won't even realize it happened unless they read or are told about it afterwards. If anything, people will wind up giving them good buzz by saying how brave they performed in spite of the black ocean (not realizing that they weren't even aware of it lol).

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  144. Exactly, He even captioned one of the post saying 'Iron Man' about Baekhyun

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  145. This is becoming my new favorite show. I'm impressed.

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  146. yes thank you.

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  147. no ailee didn't sing twinkle

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  148. Awww....love how you used meme from my page <3

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  149. The Chorus is Chinese but the rest is korean lol

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  150. http://i.imgur.com/1uiD8Wu.jpg

    adorable taeil

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  151. ♡ Princess ♡May 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM

    Bur do manager I already saw u in the shower and I must say u have really nice abs

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  152. I love Ailee but come on... we know you're good. Don't steal the show from all the underrated singers please.

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  153. its not ailee its other singer

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  154. maybe NB should make you a favor and ban you completely of HER blog then ?
    if you want a rest it's the easiest way.

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  155. oh whoops i mean kahi lol, my laptop seems to be kai biased

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  156. The initial intent of it was mean-spirited. But to be honest, if I were managing a rising girl group at this point... I might actually try to get fans to do a black ocean. The group won't realize and will perform well regardless which will win fans. It's also great publicity afterwards... Especially since the only well known incident is what happened to SNSD, and look how far they have come now!

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  157. they invited her

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  158. Finally Taeil is getting recognised!!!!

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  159. As a person who has a disabled brother,I get really offended when someone joke about it.It's not something nice to say guys.I don't know if it's kai(I hope it's not cause I'm starting to like him) or not but no one should ever joke about this kind of things.It's like putting people with disability down and make them into people who doesn't know anything while it's not even true.They are better than normal people when it comes to sharing feelings and loving others.Their heart is just pure as the clean water and that's what is important for me in a human.

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  160. i don't think it was a black ocean but like what they are saying they just didn't know their songs

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  161. I agree^^ until the last paragraph

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  162. That's true but it's not T-ara's most popular song by any margin. Plus, I'm sure the Chinese K-pop fans will also know and prefer their Korean songs more too.

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  163. Well it's so easy to make it as delulu fan-girls thing.
    As i remmber sone were make a deal w/ ELF & cassopia for seat lighting then they didn't follow the deal + some sones were problematic to other fans so the black ocean

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  164. Say my hi to Kendall, Kim! 👄

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  165. and exo-l are messier than me & exo combined

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  166. 10. [+6, -4] Solji - jjang, Hyuna - pretty bland, Soyu - ajumma

    Thats so rude

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  167. i know, people have such low standards :(

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  168. I'd rather the cameramen focus on the performance. 50% of 4minute and BTOB's WYN and Beep Beep were focused on the audience, I was so mad

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  169. ok jyp made wG go to usa and soshi took their places, you can't say they still have their old popularity it's not true, the tvxq lawsuit happened, they disbanded and it was a hard situation for Cassies ,

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  170. You're not making any sense. In what way does NB hate T-ara? NB is just a blog that translates articles and comments. I've been a user here for a while and I'm also a Queen's but I really don't see the hate on T-ara that some of you fans are claiming.

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  171. but you've just missed to mention some snsd members bad behaviors that made some people get mad on them..

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  172. "EXO Chanyeol put up a video of Sehun and DO on his Instagram and immediately took it back down because there's someone in the back who can be heard saying, 'Are you a retard?'



    being from a x fandom shouldn't matter... and I can't see Kai saying retard.

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  173. No one deserved black ocean
    if you dont like dont watch ..

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  174. ♡ Princess ♡May 24, 2015 at 10:18 AM

    Ya irk what happened to him??? Maybe his current hair don't suit him or he got some weird ps

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  175. Don't call people idiots.

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  176. Kind of off topic.. But I bet you if the final lineup was decided upon after a lot of the most recent comebacks, EXID would have been placed right before or after 4minute in the lineup (more towards the end of the second group). Red Velvet would have probably been moved to the second group of performers as well.

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  177. Girl ABS remind me of Kahi..

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  178. Interupted and stopped him from singing to correct his english when the show was running that's really innapropriate and rude
    He is fluent in english he must be feeling embarrased and he is kinda a respectful person in korea
    Tiffany was so inconsiderate and rude

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  179. Apink were in Japan along with BEAST so yeah. It's too bad though. There were way too many ??? groups so the crowd didn't come alive until GOT7 came out.

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  180. Just watch this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZxbWvDavvg

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  181. Most Korean actors are hot but my list:
    1 or 2 either Won Bin and Go Soo
    3. Song Seung Hun
    4 or 5 is either Jo In Sung and So Ji sub... WHIB feels

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  182. There was much more of an issue with Lay and his instagram...

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  183. so basically don't be easy to believe that unless you see it by yourself

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  184. They're not acting high. I'm just saying what I see. Whenever Taeyeon does something, knetz and inetz bash her as if she killed someone, but if EXO members do the same thing, inetz shield them and all go into "oppar didn't mean it!!" mode. Most of them are boygroups stans so I'm not surprised but still, it's annoying. Just check the last EXO post about a member saying the word "retard", they all defend them, but I can't imagine what they'd have said if it was Taeyeon lol.


    Imean, it's okay to bash other idols, but then don't get all sensitive and butthurt when your bias group get bashed.


    Here's a comment that explains well what I mean: [+444, -79] What's funnier is that male idols who are criminals go around just fine but a female idol just has to say one wrong thing or make the wrong facial expression and people latch to her like piranhas ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

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  185. I was really confused to see Red Velvet was the first or second performer? I only managed to catch 30 seconds of Ice Cream Cake and then it was over. Wtf.

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  186. and there is nothing wrong if T-ara sing a song in chinese.

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  187. Of course there's nothing wrong but obviously, an audience set in Seoul is not going to know what the heck they're singing and not sing along to it?

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  188. Did I say there was anything wrong if they do that? O_o

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  189. Weird, but smart. T-ara is currently getting more of their income and popularity from the Chinese market instead of Korea's. They've also said that all their group activities for the upcoming year will be focused in China. Performing Little Apple will generate a lot of appreciation from China and it will help solidify T-ara as China's favorite K-Pop girl group. I don't think T-are could have done anything to regain fans in Korea through this performance - if anything, this is almost a best case media scenario for them. If they had only performed a popular Korean song or even did a medley, they probably wouldn't have generated any publicity at all. Now not only does it look like they are popular and important enough to have articles written solely about them, even though they weren't even in the headlining group of performers. The negative slant of the write up has also gotten people to actually defend T-ara, and that's pretty much a damned miracle.

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  190. He's handsome but no#1

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  191. they did it for the chinese viewrs


    https://youtu.be/74vVH7ZeLTE?t=3s

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  192. i follow shawols who went to the recording and they said some of what she wrote on her apology was untrue. there seems to be certain rules for recordings, and it seems to be a big deal if fans dont follow... one of which was she went in as one of the 10 or 20 fans allowed for minho when they were 300 fans allowed in for exo...and she apparently didn't actually admit she was exo-l and they all waited for 2 hours coz she kept insisting she was a shawol, and she only admitted when they discovered her camera was full of kai's pics, etc. i know the shawols i follow who are in korea were just "..." at the apology, lol, but since the ban was lifted eventually, they let it go, i guess.
    i dont even remember a lot of it but things were exacerbated due to the shinee concert scalping issue at the time too... as the music show thing wasn't the first time this had happened, all in all, k-shawols seem to be very leery of k-exols.
    so many rigid rules and stuff in korea, things like this make me realize why k-fans usually are one-group stans instead of multigroup like i-fans haha. like different lines and fanclubs and idek! so much potential for drama if you're multifandom there. XD

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  193. WG have he benefit of being missed and more exclusive than Soshi are (they're everywhere but ask for a higer pay so I mean a diff. kind of exclusive). They didn't have to be as heavily promoted. But cute how people constant go on about their superiority.

    What did they do to Jessica?

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