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Friday, January 24, 2014

What happened to all of the girl groups at the Seoul Music Awards?


Article: 'Seoul Music Awards' boy groups show their power, but where have all the girl singers gone?

Source: Sports Seoul via Naver

1. [+2,898, -30] Think about it, a lot more girls vote for things like this. Boys are too lazy to do it unless they're a hardcore fanboy.

2. [+2,468, -91] Boy groups will always do better... Boys will look at girl groups and say oh, they're pretty, and that will be that while girls follow them, buy their albums, etc... That's why Soshi is considered amazing. They sell a lot of albums and have a strong fandom compared to male groups.

3. [+2,077, -194] Soshi's amazing if you think about all things considered

4. [+1,828, -39] 90% of the audience were girls too anyway... judging by the cheer sounds.

5. [+1,598, -183] You're not going to get another girl group like SNSD who can sell 300,000 copies.

6. [+333, -53] Where was f(x)? SM really needs to support f(x) more... don't even have a fanclub despite being years into their debut.

7. [+220, -28] Why didn't Younha, Im Chang Jung, Jaurim, Lee Juk, Urban Zakapa, or Brown Eyed Soul win anything?

8. [+163, -17] Isn't it obvious? Boy groups have a strong fangirl fanbase, everyone already knows that. What do you expect a fanboy to do? They would never go nearly as far as fangirls do.

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239 comments:

  1. girl groups are TRASH

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  2. Such a shame that girl groups were shut out of the major categories, especially considering that some deserved to win bigger awards.

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  3. Little Freak 'ㅂ'*January 24, 2014 at 1:02 AM

    6. [+333, -53] Where was f(x)? SM really needs to support f(x) more... don't even have a fanclub despite being years into their debut.

    The truth has been spoken

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  4. yea, boy groups obviously have bigger fanbases, if that wasn't evident enough by the HUGEEEEE gap in album sales lol.

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  5. 1. [+2,898, -30] Think about it, a lot more girls vote for things like this. Boys are too lazy to do it unless they're a hardcore fanboy.



    haha my first thought my brother XD he just sat their when I was voting like "uhh they'll win"

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  6. [+1,598, -183] You're not going to get another girl group like SNSD who can sell 300,000 copies.

    I don't see any Current Groups winning Daesangs as mush as Soshi did..
    Soshi winning 9 Daesangs is just once in a lifetime..

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  7. 1. [+2,898, -30] Think about it, a lot more girls vote for things like this. Boys are too lazy to do it unless they're a hardcore fanboy.



    This tbh. It's not common for girls to like girl groups as much as girls liking boy groups. And girls usually go all the way when they like boy groups ie buying albums, voting etc, but not boys.

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  8. 7. [+220, -28] Why didn't Younha, Im Chang Jung, Jaurim, Lee Juk, Urban Zakapa, or Brown Eyed Soul win anything?

    They're not "mainstream" and "generic" enough to win the award.

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  9. 1. [+2,898, -30] Think about it, a lot more girls vote for things like
    this. Boys are too lazy to do it unless they're a hardcore fanboy.

    8. [+163, -17] Isn't it obvious? Boy groups have a strong fangirl
    fanbase, everyone already knows that. What do you expect a fanboy to do?
    They would never go nearly as far as fangirls do.

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  10. 7. [+220, -28] Why didn't Younha, Im Chang Jung, Jaurim, Lee Juk, Urban Zakapa, or Brown Eyed Soul win anything?


    TBH they probably only care about the critics award --- Korean music awards.

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  11. It's a given fact that boy groups really do well than girl groups. Fangirls are so passionate about their oppas !

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  12. One for each member so far :)

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  13. . [+2,468, -91] Boy groups will always do better... Boys will look at girl groups and say oh, they're pretty, and that will be that while girls follow them, buy their albums, etc... That's why Soshi is considered amazing. They sell a lot of albums and have a strong fandom compared to male groups.



    THIS.

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  14. snsd has a lot of fangirls too. someone once said that in order for girl group to last long, they need more fangirls and i couldn't agree more.

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  15. 6. [+333, -53] Where was f(x)? SM really needs to support f(x) more... don't even have a fanclub despite being years into their debut.

    lol justiceforfx pls.

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  16. Teen girls go harder for their favs and it isn't just exclusive to Korea.

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  17. I wonder if there are any men/boys sasaengs? Anybody knows?

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  18. 3. [+2,077, -194] Soshi's amazing if you think about all things considered



    they really do. it's just the way things are. boys and girls don't get rapid over girl groups like that. snsd is the exception though.

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  19. still waiting for that group name and a solo concert :/

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  20. [+333, -53] Where was f(x)? SM really needs to support f(x) more... don't even have a fanclub despite being years into their debut.



    yes sme can just at least give us fans a decent official fandom name

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  21. These awards are nice, but a group's career or "footprint" shouldn't be judged by them.

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  22. since i only followe SM girls group ,,did other girls group ever get daesang award like exo recently except for snsd?

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  23. _s_r_kamb_b_s_ °^°January 24, 2014 at 1:10 AM

    BEG needs more love <3

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  24. girl groups have no chance win over boy groups they have many fangirls who vote for them.. there's only one group who can do it and its snsd

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  25. Younha is such an amazing singer though!
    her latest album "Subsonic" is just so beautiful <3
    her voice "U" !!!

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  26. Buy album, going to their concert, download and watch all the video. Yeah, that's me

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  27. Nope. SNSD's the only girl group to win Daesangs since 2009 or so. I don't see any other girl group winning Daesangs any time soon either.

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  28. And it's not like they are doing poorly, last year was a good year for f(x)

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  29. Well I think snsd has a huge female fanbase too, that don't let too much room for other girl groups

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  30. That discrepancy between SNSD and f(x). Daaaaaaamn!

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  31. GDA
    2009 - Digital Daesang
    2010 - Disk Daesang
    2011 - Digital Daesang
    SMA
    2009 - Daesang
    2010 - Daesang
    MMA
    2009 - Artist of the year
    2009 - Song of the year
    2010 - Artist of the Year
    MAMA
    2011 - Artist of the year .

    If only SMENT did not Boycott MAMA on 2009 and 2010 when Soshi is winning Daesangs .. They maybe 3 or 4 More Daesangs for Soshi..

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  32. 3. [+2,077, -194] Soshi's amazing if you think about all things considered



    Soshi is really amazing.
    I hope 2014 will be another good year and I hope a longer promotion than 3 weeks lol

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  33. thanks since i also think the same but not so sure
    soshi is exception for girl group :))
    just wait smrookies ,,they will be the next snsd or f(x)????

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  34. 2ne1 Won Daesangs at Melon Music awards and MAMA too :)

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  35. Fandom in Korea is pretty split for males and females, while their Japanese fandom is majority female. Soshi's female fanbase has helped them like no other.

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  36. Well, I'm a fangirl and I fangirl over girl groups more than boy groups. Sometimes I question my sexuality. O_o

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  37. wtf how did BEG only sell 9000 daaaamn and why is Miss A so low.

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  38. Oh really?!I went through a time not watching Melon and MAMA so forgive my mistake. :)

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  39. And that's what made the Difference ..

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  40. No offense but rather than question your sexuality. Just enjoy it. Nothing wrong with being a female and supporting and being fans of other ladies.

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  41. [+2,898, -30] Think about it, a lot more girls vote for things like this. Boys are too lazy to do it unless they're a hardcore fanboy.

    [+163, -17] Isn't it obvious? Boy groups have a strong fangirl fanbase, everyone already knows that. What do you expect a fanboy to do? They would never go nearly as far as fangirls do.



    Lol, so true. I'm a fanboy but I wouldn't do half as much as the fangirls do.

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  42. I think that's why SNSD and 2ne1 sell so good. They have male fans but they strong thing are female fans who buy albums, singles, goes to concert, performances etc.

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  43. Wait so they also won a Daesang at the SMAs 2 years after debut? did they get hate for winning?

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  44. And this shows the hypocrisy of fans being butthurt over EXO winning Daesangs "too quickly."

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  45. I totally agree with you. Maybe it's because I'm a female and I respect and admire the girl groups so much so I stan them more~

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  46. No :) They are the National Girl Group at that time so I bet no :)

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  47. the gap between SNSD and fx sales album though..

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  48. girl groups kinda dominates in digital though.

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  49. Dag! we went from 3rd to 14th?

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  50. EXO has repackaged same songs but different cover and language!! it's so funny how their fans think that they sold that much when 2 albums and 2 repackaged and they count all four as one!! As expected, they will received so much hate even more!! SMA is not that reliable as it was before!!

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  51. Correct me wrong, but wasn't the reason they boycotted MNET is the first place was because they weren't winning on M Countdown? I'm sort of skeptical that they would have won a daesang even if they didn't boycott.

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  52. Honestly it's more hard on us(fanboys) who fanboys over male groups.

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  53. didn't the have like four version of the two albums?

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  54. Mnet was shady at the time and MCountdown was the only show they weren't winning, when they were slaying physical AND digital charts with Gee. Growl's success doesn't even compare to the impact Gee had at the time. All the awards Gee got was more than warranted, TBH.

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  55. And that's just ridiculous when GEE won 9 Straight Weeks at Music Bank while Gee HASN'T won a Single one there..

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  56. No need to question you like what you like boy groups need fanboys too, there is nothing wrong with you being a fangirl of girl groups :)

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  57. didn't wonder girls win SMA daesang on 2008? like exo, 2 years of debut

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  58. What you stated is redundant and has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Also, the list up top is for all the albums sold, not just their highest.

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  59. Yeah, I think they did. WG slayed 2008. :)

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  60. Even SHINee's 500k sales there are cumulative of the 3 albums they released in 2013. Just saying. :)

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  61. 6. [+333, -53] Where was f(x)? SM really needs to support f(x) more...
    don't even have a fanclub despite being years into their debut.


    can us nameless actually get a fanclub name now... ): its been 5 years

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  62. I don't think they got the hate since it was Gee.

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  63. I understand, and I think that is unfortunate. However, I always say forget what others think. Have fun, and keep living.

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  64. 2. [+2,468, -91] Boy groups will always do better... Boys will look
    at girl groups and say oh, they're pretty, and that will be that while
    girls follow them, buy their albums, etc... That's why Soshi is
    considered amazing. They sell a lot of albums and have a strong fandom
    compared to male groups.


    <3

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  65. yeah...the hate they get was before gee and mostly from fangirls from other boy groups

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  66. Maybe EXO is not as good as another top tier groups, but in the end of the day, no one can deny they sold a million album, more even if you count MID
    Super Junior and SNSD use different covers tactic, EXO use different languange tactic. Like it or not, it works

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  67. T-ARA would be above A Pink if you combine the sales

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  68. POOR unfamous girl group never attended awards like this, girls day , rainbow, dalshabet , aoa, i never saw thew in any awards kkk

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  69. The Bitterness of Fangirl because of SNSD's closeness to their Oppars..

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  70. These awards seasons have been mega disappointing, Girl groups did very well this year and barely got recognized for any of it. What a bunch of bullshit.

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  71. Eh I'm here just to comment on the new Won Bin headers up there, thanks mod! ;)

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  72. funny thing is soshi was HATED (yes i mean to capitalized that) before winning, before Gee. Gee kinda help them get less hate

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  73. Hated by the Fangirls of their Oppars.. XD

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  74. The key to a successful girl group is their ability to attract fan girls. That takes more than showing off legs. You have to earn their respect - be acknowledged as an artist. Doesn't come to every group but once you got fangirls on your side, they'll make sure to elevate your status to a whole other level.

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  75. Expect The UnexpectedJanuary 24, 2014 at 1:38 AM

    fanboys are just devoted to online game lol. voting? nahhh

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  76. and this is why snsd is simply a wall that would take a long time to be climbed over. not only they have many male fans but the amount of their female fans is no joke.

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  77. YEAH!
    :brofist:

    i'm a fanboy of EXO Infinite NU'EST BTS, and maybe GOT7.. LOL

    and for the girlgroup, i love Soshi APink Sistar F(x) and HelloVenus..

    <3

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  78. That is actually what I'm doing. Enjoying the music :D

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  79. They didn't. Since Gee was like the song that EVERYONE in the age of 7 to 40 across S.Korea know.

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  80. ;a; i can never understand why sm is always taking so long when giving their own artist a fandom name....
    right. it's probably only ~*the money*~ they care about. sm sees the fans as $$$$$ standing here and there screaming their lungs out and draining their pockets for the idols.

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  81. Edit:
    Gee is the Song of the Decade :)

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  82. /brofist/
    MBLAQ and BAP are the boy groups that I'm fanboying to.
    And for gg, I'm inlove to 2NE1, SECRET and SNSD.

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  83. They weren't even at the SMAs. Ridic, In fact barely any of my faves were. A girl group could have gotten the digital daesang but still nothing? It's not just f(x) tbh but this award season has been utterly hostile towards girl groups more than ever and it sucks.

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  84. 2. [+2,468, -91] Boy groups will always do better... Boys will look
    at girl groups and say oh, they're pretty, and that will be that while
    girls follow them, buy their albums, etc...


    as a fanboy, i do agree with this LOL

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  85. Maybe they don't know how to name it?, i don't know haha at this rate i would like anything at least we would have a name.

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  86. Yes they exist, but aren't always highlighted as much as the sasaengs who are female

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  87. Stop being an ass kkk

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  88. I wonder if SM will let them have a repackage this year

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  89. girl group that attend award
    snsd-physical
    sistar-digital
    apink- digital
    4minute-digital
    crayon pop- new comer

    the rest is BOYS

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  90. If I remember correctly, Miss A won daesang in 2010. Which is their debut year. And that was ridicilous although Bad Girl Good Girl was a hit.

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  91. Yep. They're the only girl group that can rival a boy group in terms of fans because they've pretty much cornered every market. Male & females, young & old. The fandom has it all.

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  92. IntenseFeelings_UglySobbingJanuary 24, 2014 at 1:49 AM

    Funny how everyone say's that guys are too horny, when really girls (especially fangirls) are so much more thirsty.

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  93. But Nobody was just like Gee of 2008. No one can deny that. While Growl is nowhere near the popularity of Nobody or Gee

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  94. fangirls = hormones + misogyny

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  95. IntenseFeelings_UglySobbingJanuary 24, 2014 at 1:51 AM

    I may be irrelevant but I'm so fucking proud of Vixx. I've been with them since their pre-debut days and damn I was so scared they would fall in with the other rookie idol's. They're doing so damn good.

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  96. omg yes 2ne1 haha i'm sorry i forgot XD

    maybe i'm not a blackjack, but i love them.. ^^

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  97. Both side are as horny as the other, it's just that fanboy show it less. ^^

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  98. this lol. does anyone forget that mr. simple had different kind of album covers?? i could only afford one tho. it's just fortunate that sm's tactic of using different languages simply work since they know they're big in china.

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  99. I wonder why girls support their favourite groups more then boys support theirs… like why are boy groups female fans so much more… devoted? passionate? obsessive? then girl groups boy fans..

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  100. what if they name it $$$$$......no pls
    i actually like aff(x)tion :c

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  101. i heard that f(x) should have attend that event instead apink...doesnt it means that f(x) that should have win that award?

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  102. on a side note, thank you NB :) WON BIN IS BACK :D

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  103. 2009 SMA was held in jan/feb 2010 and that was two+ years since their debut (same with other daesangs they got). Exo debut was april 2012 and all daesangs they got is in less two years (21+ months). And btw 2008 sma daesang was for wondergirls nobody and it was even shorter time. I think in 2009-2010 soshi still got hated sometimes bcs people still thought all their achievement they got was bcs wg was faraway in america..

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  104. i think it's more a lot of men are more.. fickle. or like they don't want to obsess over a girl if they aren't getting anything in return. (not saying all men are like this)

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  105. The unfortunate part is that fangirls can be choosy and critical when it comes to girl groups compared to boy groups. SNSD has many like you said.
    Only other girl group I can think of that probably has a good amount of fangirls as well is probably A Pink who is getting more popular as I write this.

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  106. didn't snsd have 10 versions of their IGAB album though..

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  107. #25 is ridiculous. Kill Bill was such a great album. I just wish f(x) and BEG didn't have to promote at the exact same time last year.

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  108. Even 50+ know gee too

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  109. you probably couldn't get away with it either...i mean stealing a girl groups panties and selling them would have made a lot of headlines

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  110. the discrepancy between male idol groups sales and female idol group sales… f(x) is 2nd place on the female list has less then the 18th spot on the male sales list...

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  111. but sometimes its kinda awkward when i go to a karaoke with my friends (non KPOP fans) and i choose boygroup's songs.. kkkkk XD

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  112. I hate (don't even like using this word at all) that fangirls being obsessive like that solidifies a sexist archetype of women.


    And the fact that is true.... that fangirls are indeed more passionate about this stuff......

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  113. Oh it's possible, yes. :o

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  114. i agree with a pink, they're making baby steps but they're slowly rising too. i thought f(x) has a good amount of fangirls too? this is plain curiosity tho.

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  115. The fact that IU didn't win anything (not only at SMA, but at GDA as well) is ridiculous.

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  116. idk..maybe because fangirls have a really bad taste in music and fantasize about oppas marrying them one day. thus they must support oppas and buys everything with oppas names on it.
    fangirls are more dumb in general tbw.

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  117. um those numbers for te other groups listed are also combined sales,


    and please, one of Exos albums alone sold the most out of everyone this year so stop


    don t think the award show is reliable? go check the album charts for yourself

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  118. there's just so much truth in there. i couldn't even buy the ticket to their concert because it was sold out really quick. :[ and i could only bitterly listen to this group of boys and girls talking about how great the concert was.

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  119. wow claps for the generalization??

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  120. soshi has strong fandom and they have a lot of FANGIRLS.
    they're amazing.

    [+333, -53] Where was f(x)? SM really needs to support f(x) more...
    don't even have a fanclub despite being years into their debut.
    THIS.

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  121. They are taking too long because they don't intend to give them one O.o It's not going to happen.


    And I'm frankly glad it's like that, because it legitimises the girls' status as a group that doesn't depend on a fanbase.


    General public likes to criticise groups for having fanbases. They like to use the existence of a fanbase as a tool to diminish their effort and their work. "Of course they would win/of course they still exist/of course they are selling. it's all because of their fandom, because they surely don't have public recognition".


    They can't use that against f(x).


    And if fans think they should get one as thanks for supporting them, then they are really not fans. They just just there for the take.


    If you are a fan it's because you want to and it's your own decision. Nobody is obliged to give back anything. The girls are very grateful and their fans know it, they shouldn't need or demand anything else.

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  122. "7. [+220, -28] Why didn't Younha, Im Chang Jung, Jaurim, Lee Juk, Urban Zakapa, or Brown Eyed Soul win anything?"

    Netizen, you're a person after my own heart ㅠㅠ keep fighting that good fight! (Younha and Jaurim had amazing releases this year, Urban Zakapa too.)

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  123. aah i see. :/ i honestly think it's just cool to have a fandom name because almost everyone literally have OTL orz but then again it's just my opinion.

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  124. oh damn i'm so mad.

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  125. What the hell are you on about?, do you think we will not support the girls if i don't have a fandom name? really?, im just saying that it would be nice since every other artist in SM except exo who is still new has a fandom name why the hell we f(ans) don't deserve one? im not here to take anything but having an official name make us feel closer and is like having an ID in the Kpop world.

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  126. True, true. Still, it would be nice to see artists like them acknowledged in more awards ceremonies.

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  127. "They're not "mainstream" and "generic" enough to win the award nowaday."


    Oh my how pretentious.

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  128. As long as A Pink steers clear of scandals the same way SNSD has, they'll do fine as long as Cube continues to utilize them.

    The one thing SM is extremely good at is seizing an opportunity, which is how SNSD snatched the #1 spot from WG--and held on to it for this long.

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  129. no..i just state that WG also get daesang in short time after debut..because maldita said he/she only know the girlgroup won daesang is snsd on 2009

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  130. It seems you already jumped to some conclusion, asked some questions about those conclusions and answered them yourself.

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  131. i still wonder why IU's not on the list... her album was one of the best album last year, her digital sales are high too...

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  132. [+220, -28] Why didn't Younha, Im Chang Jung, Jaurim, Lee Juk, Urban Zakapa, or Brown Eyed Soul win anything?



    ygs omg when will it happens?
    to be honest, all of Urban Zakapa's song was pretty good though.

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  133. i know f(x) has a lot of international fangirls. but idk about in korea, guessing they have more then the average girl group though.

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  134. There's rumors that A-pink was only invited because SM didn't let F(x) attend and if F(x) atten\ded they would have won the Bonsang too considering they won a Bonsang the week before...


    Poor F(x)............ :(

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  135. Thats the amazing thing about snsd, they even get the hearts of girls to flutter

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  136. ia... Younha is my bias and consistenlly releases good music and I dont see her winning stuff.. its sosad..

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  137. since they take in sales to the awards, APINK did better in downloads and f(x) did better in physical albums so I bet APINK went since NoNoNo was far popular than Rum Pum Pum Pum was.

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  138. i need fx last night....but how, why they didn't get votes & sales but bts,vixx & b1a4 get those??? IU, GD ,2NE1 too.....

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  139. shut up -_- your misogyny/sexism is showing

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  140. why would sm do that though..? doesn't make sense….

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  141. i am really hoping we get a good promotion cycle because I don't want them to cut their promotions and go to Japan like they did last time (and sadly I have a feeling that might happen this time around)

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  142. yes i saw that on twitter too...coz they r busy (victoria drama n sulli movie probably) , sm cancelled their performance n a pink got that place instead of fx :(

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  143. Yah i want a repackage too

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  144. Well, if snsd comeback is in February and the japan tour will start at april something...its very likely it will happens again

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  145. but i read that the staff wrote on twitter that they apologized to f(x) fans bcs f(x) couldn't attend that event so they're being replaced by apink.

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  146. this is why I was not happy with the album delay. The girls Japan Tour runs into June (but they have more spaced out dates) and it's not like we are going to get a fully promoted repack.

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  147. 6. [+333, -53] Where was f(x)? SM really needs to support f(x) more... don't even have a fanclub despite being years into their debut.

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  148. 6. [+333, -53] Where was f(x)? SM really needs to support f(x) more... don't even have a fanclub despite being years into their debut.

    And the saddest thing is that f(x) has indeed a lot of fangirls, krystal said it herself... so sad, my girls ㅠㅠ

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  149. I am a girl and I don't stan any boy groups besides maybe winner. I listen to girl groups soooo much more than boy groups. It's not weird at all. Girl power yo.

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  150. but from Mnet report may~june soshi will have another cb, but it could be tts or a new subunit

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  151. Monamarie SantiagoJanuary 24, 2014 at 2:52 AM

    what's bonsang?

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  152. where I can see the all winners?

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  153. Sistar does. If you bother to listen to the cheerings in fancams.

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  154. " [+333, -53] Where was f(x)? SM really needs to support f(x) more... don't even have a fanclub despite being years into their debut. "


    TRUE

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  155. I thought SM stopped giving fanclub name after SHINEe. Do you mean "Exotics"? As far as I know, only international fans call themselves that. Exo, like f(x) doesn't have an official fan club name, or am I mistaken?

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  156. i think acube try as possible to make apink clear of scandal..when something rumour bout apink...acube quickly response it to avoid it more worse.For instance, exo and apink rumours.Based on person that spread video...the person in video is mainly between sehun, baekyun and bomi...even this is obviously not bomi's voice...acube quickly deny it...that why some some fans said why acube need to deny it coz it is obviously not apink voice..acube also control apink's sns...this girls don't used their own sns...pictures & message from girls mostly update in official acube twitter/FB or fancafe...

    "The one thing SM is extremely good at is seizing an opportunity, which
    is how SNSD snatched the #1 spot from WG--and held on to it for this
    long"

    true..

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  157. Yup. I'm also hoping for good and longer promotion cycle + an album with songs like the ones in their Japanese albums.

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  158. f(x) should've at least received a bonsang. don't they have the next best girl group album sales after snsd? not to mention, pink tape overall was a well made album

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  159. Black Box was one of the best albums of 2013, along with Pink Tape. I have no idea why Brown Eyed Girls isn't near the top. They release great music, are great live performers and have good images. Most of these girl groups deserve more love. :(


    Also wow at Jaejoong and Junsu cracking the top 20 with no album promotions.

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  160. Jenizz | pinkcrownJanuary 24, 2014 at 3:24 AM

    I still find it hilarious that 458349 groups won the bonsang.. x'D

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  161. I think, after 2009, there's no song can be really popular like Gee , Nobody or Sorry-sorry on their era
    Judging from how often GROWL was played, it was pretty popular too

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  162. nono you're right. one of the member choked on their noodle (i think it was tao?) when they heard that the fans called themselves as exotics, he thought it was funny. exo still doesn't have a fandom name.
    sometimes i wonder how f(x) feels about this. they seem pretty cool? but then again, i don't know. it's sweet though that the girls memorize their fanbases' names. sulli ran around looking for sulli94 and it was just cute. i find it really adorable when the idols remember the fanbases names especially when they don't have a fandom name yet.

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  163. You go girl!!!! thumbs up!!! No one can beat SNSD's popularity

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  164. this isn't new honestly, i can never understand the mindset of some people in sm.

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  165. I managed to get Heechul's version^^
    Imagine if they release EXO next album in 2 languages and 12 different covers >//<
    Scary...

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  166. Agree!!! Gee is the song that helps SNSD rise their popularity

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  167. Mister mister by kara and abracadabra by BEG, really miss those times in 2009

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  168. What bullshit are you talking about? EXO has no fanclub name and SM stop giving them after SHINEe. Please do some research. I absolutely agree with @FayeG, she really has a point. Read and understand her comment clearly. She was just pointing out how fans should understand the circumstances. I really dislike people crying out loud about this issue.

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  169. omg really?! my friend's cousin would do anything to get heechul's lol! i got ryeowook and my friend got leeteuk so we switched. actually when they're releasing stuffs like this, like one album with so many covers, it's fun to wait which one you'll get lol. the same goes with the postcards. ;w;

    ...no... please don't do that to exo no... i'm not made out of money no :((

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  170. why is gdragon didn't win anything? he's more talented and sold more physically/digitally than anyone in the list!

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  171. Are you sure you're a straight? Perhaps, a bi or a homo?

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  172. Since they're re-signing their contract this year, maybe pepp and you may be wrong? We never know, they raise the agreement of their contract. Besides, the rumors of GG-TTS comeback in April is in the waiting list as well.

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  173. Because they can't do that in regular life so they obsess over celebrities.

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  174. LOL, SM is really similar to Mr. Eugene Krabs.

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  175. I'M LAUGHING OMG WHAT IF mr krabs is the one who runs sm i'm having trust issues here > > look at him laying on all dem fans

    http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/mr-krabs-money.jpg

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  176. The possibility is low, but it's possible they wont renew the contract too. Right Now our insurance from SM is onyl the concert tour. It can happen like HOT, that they will disband at the mid of their tour/promotion. We never will know. Except Soshi themself and SM

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  177. TBH i think if sm promoted snsd longer last year they will win a lot of award not only bonsang yesterday, or maybe a daeasang.

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  178. it's not a rumor, the sma website updated a notice where they said they apologize because "f(x) won't come and apink will replace them" or something like that.

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  179. It probably happened. LOL.

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  180. Agree..but what can we do when sm clearly wants to boost exo and shinee first

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  181. Kevin Horvejkul KwokJanuary 24, 2014 at 4:39 AM

    You forget about what Acube did to Yookyung...

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  182. It's high possibility they will renew. SM must be wise making decisions, one mistake could create devastating results and they don't want to repeat it again, SNSD is on their peak. SM most probably agree most of the terms the girls will going to propose. You forgot the teaser that has been showed in their Marchen Fantasy and how they always include in their speeches in the events or award shows to please look forward to their comeback. I'm not delulu but I'm just thinking positive. lol

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  183. Kevin Horvejkul KwokJanuary 24, 2014 at 4:44 AM

    I think SM, YG & JYP don't give fans a name anymore. EXO, Lee HI, 15&, Baek Ah Yeon, GOT7 don't have a fans name. :|

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  184. LOL at the comments always finding excuses for SNSD like 'they do well compared to boy groups and blah blah blah' but when snsd does well, they diss the boy groups.

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  185. because she can't sing, dance, or rap, that's why

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  186. 7. [+220, -28] Why didn't Younha, Im Chang Jung, Jaurim, Lee Juk, Urban Zakapa, or Brown Eyed Soul win anything?
    Same reason why girl groups did nothng..... The power of fangirls ...

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  187. Snsd is the queen of girlgroups, I doubt any other girlgroups can beat them for a while

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  188. Japan is more relevant anyway

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  189. Of course guys are more horny, it's their nature.Where do you live?

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  190. Fanboys are only horny and make fan of ugly girls all the time and only think with their dicks so they have no taste in music

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  191. I was talking more about voting on polls, streaming mv's, and generally going out of my way to promote the group.

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  192. First of all, I'm surprised that Sistar didn't win for digital.
    Second of all, why wasn't F(x) there? :/

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  193. 2. [+2,468, -91] Boy groups will always do better... Boys will look at girl groups and say oh, they're pretty, and that will be that while girls follow them, buy their albums, etc... That's why Soshi is considered amazing. They sell a lot of albums and have a strong fandom compared to male groups.

    3. [+2,077, -194] Soshi's amazing if you think about all things considered.

    5. [+1,598, -183] You're not going to get another girl group like SNSD who can sell 300,000 copies.


    That's true, I don't think there will be a girl group that can beat SNSD soon, when it comes to girl groups SNSD have the biggest fandom..

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  194. i don't mean anything but i don't understand why (fan) girls are crazy about other girls seriously? if i am, i guess i have to think about my sexuality, is it easier if you love boys? :-ss

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  195. [+333, -53] Where was f(x)? SM really needs to support f(x) more... don't even have a fanclub despite being years into their debut.



    So true, SM please stop mistreating f(x)

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