Korean Ilbo recently ran their cover story on a nameless male actor to show what the reality is like for those who don't get the boost in opportunities idols are generously given.
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Article: Listening to the qualms of male actor A...
Source: Korean Ilbo via Naver
Pictured above is actor A working a part time job at a restaurant in Seoul. He requested to remain anonymous and faceless because "criticizing the production companies and broadcast channels will mean the end of my career".
"I make barely $2,000~$3,000 a year... but I am still an actor."
There are times when he isn't even paid that amount in full, leaving him ineligible for any type of insurance coverage. He has to work part time jobs to make ends meet, but his craze for acting is what has kept him on this career path for the past 10 years.
"An actor is nothing like what you see on the outside. You could work really hard all throughout a drama, but the reality is that you end up having to beg the production companies for your pay."
For the past 10 years, A has only played minor roles which he was able to land through the help of a 'casting director' broker who connects actors to production companies. For actors like A, they receive $150 per episode, 30% of which is given to the broker. It might seem like a lot for a day's worth of work, but opportunities only come a few times a month.
"My friends are in the same predicament." The $2,000 they make in a year isn't enough to qualify them for health and safety insurance or a pension.
When asked if he ever felt a sense of shame over his inability to make ends meet despite being 10 years into his career, he replied, "There's nothing you can do about it by getting mad or getting your pride hurt. The only thing you can do as an actor is to continue showing all of your skills. If you're not satisfied with what you're being paid, you don't have to do it. As for me, though, I want to act."
The problem ultimately becomes the production companies who don't even pay the small amount that these actors do earn. "I wasn't able to receive my pay for months at a time once so I wrote a letter to the CEO saying he should not think he can get away with stealing money from someone just because they're nameless. He ended up paying me half of what he owed. Situations like this are frequent."
Last year, he had spent all night memorizing a script and even bought a new outfit out of his own pocket when he woke up to a text message the day of the recording saying that he "didn't need to come in". He later found out that a higher-up producer had decided to fill his role with another actor they had a mutual relationship with.
"I grew up knowing that pursuing the arts runs the risk of going hungry so I learned to starve when without money and help others when with. Now that I have a family now, though, it's difficult to see life that way. When I'm not filming, I'm working part time jobs but it's still not enough to buy my daughter meat for dinner or to buy my wife a birthday present."
After feeling remorse for putting the financial burden of the family on his wife, he briefly found a job as a cosmetics salesman before the company went bankrupt. "I realized that the only thing I was good at, that I could see myself doing forever, was acting."
He now considers success his biggest form of revenge and continues practicing his script with his daughter in front of the mirror. "I promise her that one day people will be able to just look at her and say, 'She's the daughter of that actor.'"
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1. [+527, -8] With actors like him who live day to day just to survive, please stop casting idols into leading roles with their crappy acting;;;; Opportunities should be given to rookies or actors like him instead of idols who don't have the skills or any knowledge about the acting profession;;; There are so many successful actors that all started from the bottom and worked their ways up, who do idols think they are??? Give these opportunities to the actors!!!!!!!
2. [+377, -8] I bet the producers sleep so soundly at night knowing that he chose idols with crappy acting over passionate actors like him
3. [+293, -5] Dramas really need to stop using crappy idols purely for their popularity...
4. [+247, -5] I hope that he never gives up his dream and continues to fight against the obstacles of reality to make it come true
5. [+236, -4] I'd cast him 1,000 times over any T-ara member
6. [+196, -4] The fact that dramas are using idols simply for the "money" and for their fanbase to raise viewer ratings just goes to show that idols are not "singers" but "products"
7. [+164, -5] There are probably more like him in our country and yet dramas still insist on sticking in idols everywhere
8. [+148, -4] The production companies are starting to sound like mobs
9. [+140, -5] And yet today, an idol named Han Seungyeon insists that she must be an actress
10. [+122, -8] Kids like Suzy are so blessed.
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This is so heartbreaking to read...
ReplyDeleteThis really helps me understand the hatred on idol actors netizen's have.
ReplyDeleteMaybe he's just a bad actor
ReplyDeleteWhat if he is just a bad actor?
ReplyDeleteI mean.. I feel bad for this guy but this is the same for any entertainment industry. Why do you think so many parents are against their kids trying to become actors/singers? because it's extremely competitive and hard to achieve success in the entertainment field. Most of the time, it has very little to do with talent and more to do with connections and luck.
ReplyDeleteas for idols, well they have short lived careers so it's not like their career is all that great. they may be everywhere now but as soon as they reach a certain age, they get tossed out for a new batch of idols.
I refuse to feel sorry for this kind of guy, whatever you do in life you're gonna have to face hardships and things are not gonna be easy, besides he seems to be blaming everything but himself when in my experience people are usually the ones responsibles for the way their life is going.
ReplyDeleteIt's hard to become successful in the idol industry too...but of course, actors are better than idols just because they're actors.
ReplyDeleteit's a freaking witchhunt against idol actors...
ReplyDeleteseems more like there's a problem with production then idol actors themselves.
Can I be an anonymous actor too?
ReplyDeleteeven if he was not good of an actor.. there is big chance that they would give his role to an idol instead, with no acting skills
ReplyDeleteIs it entirely the fault of idols that this person is not receiving roles? I definitely agree that idols should not have roles in dramas if they are not competent enough and that they are stealing other actor's meals, but the fault can't be entirelty placed upon idols. There are plenty of bad actual actors in the industry (such as Kim Tae Hee), yet why does she receive roles?
ReplyDeleteJust becauae you work hard, no matter for how long or with how much effort, if you are not good enough and don't embody a "handsome" or "pretty" face, things are not going to work out. The blame can't be entirely placed on idols, who are also working hard for their dreams as well. Who said it was really easy to debut after training for so long and be popular after their debut? Only a small number of the hundreds of 2012 debuts made a a tiny impact.
exactly. and its not like even the idols themselves started with no hardship. jaejoong and yunho use to sleep outside in the snow starving and work partime to pay for SM classes and yunho even said that junsu let him sleep with him cause he had no where to sleep and look now they can easily fill up a 100,000 arenas. jo kwon trained for over 7years before he could become a singer. its not like i am defending idols cause lately even i am getting annoyed at the amount of idols acting but sometimes its good to be open minded and look both ways. they r also trying to make ends meet and securing a place for the future cause their careers aren't going to last long as idols. i dont see spice girls nor the backstreet boys still singers and successful now
ReplyDeletewhat i'm rather upset about is not idols with close to no acting skill getting picked but the fact that they won't even pay actors like him. but yes, k-dramas could use some real acting instead of just pretty/popular faces though.
ReplyDeleteidols started to act alot in dramas in 2010. this guy said he has been trying for 10 years. do the math, its not their fault just the punching bag for netizen although i get the influx of idols acting isnt helping the argument
ReplyDeleteI think people are less sympathetic towards idols because they generally debut young.. so a lot of times it seems like their parents can shield them from hardships (even though it's not always the case, but I'm just saying that's what it might seem like to netizens). A lot of these struggling actors and singers are well in their 20s.
ReplyDeletethe entertainment industry is a harsh place in general.. directors, screenwriters, etc have it just as hard.
well that's life ,it's unfair,not all of us is fortunate.
ReplyDeleteSad that he's not going anywhere in his career but just because someone has a strong passion for something, doesn't automatically guarantee success. Maybe he's just a bad actor, maybe he doesn't have the looks, or he doesn't have the charisma that attracts people. There are thousands of people wanting to be actors and only a few roles. And this guy has been trying for 10 years, when he started acting the current batch of idols right now were only in elementary school so competition with them isn't even a reason for his lack of success.
ReplyDeleteomg... these sob stories are nothing new.. this is the entertainment industry... these kinds of thing are part of the entertainment industries regardless of countries. Switch the fact that this is Korea and switch it with Hollywood... i doubt that this man is gonna get our sympathies. Its either you got it or you don't. end of story. If you can't succeed, try something else. Theres no need to burden your family with your selfishness.
ReplyDeleteLife's not easy - just because you decide to become an actor it doesn't mean you'll be launched into stardom you have to know the business ; you have to look good, be well mannered, know who to talk to, know who to brown nose to the ends of the world. to me it just sounds like he didn't network enough.
ReplyDeletei don't particularly feel horrible for him. some people have lives like that, and it's in their power to make it better for themselves. he can pick up another profession while practicing acting to support his family. since he's been at it for 10 years it doesn't seem to me that he has realized that yet.
It's actually the same for every entertainment industry - passion and talent (even education) can get you up to a point only. Unless you are lucky to have your big break (as all of the biggest stars had), you have to rely on connections (which is what the idols have) to continue pursuing for that big break. This is the reality of the industry you are trying to get in - it's an industry more of chances than of formulas.
ReplyDeletewhy did my name changed into a smiley?
ReplyDelete10 years? He would've at least reached something. I mean it's 10 years. No need to blame idols. It all depends on if you have that little something. Sometimes it's the look. Sometimes it's the personality or that little spark that you call talent. If he really wanted to provide for his family, then he would've taken the hint and went into a different profession. Yes, chasing dreams are good, but if you're gonna complain about the results a long the way, then maybe it's a good time to chase a different dream.
ReplyDeleteFact is not everyone is going to make it. Actor, singer or idol. For every Suzy or Yoona there are probably a 100 girls who work hard and never make it. The ones who are the most popular aren't always the most talented, that includes actors. They are just luckier than most.
ReplyDeletewhile i feel really bad for rookie actors, do netizens really think that the drama roles given to idols will go to rookie actors? the korean drama ent is really closed off, you see the same small group of people over and over again, from leads to secondary characters, if it wasn't taken by an idol would be taken by one of the often used actors that always play supporting characters. with or without idols it is difficult to break into it, so they should stop complaining about idols being casted and maybe start doing something to help the rookie actors.
ReplyDeleteHe's said a lot of things that seemed plausible and makes readers feel for him. But when it comes down to it, trying for 10 years, and not really going anymore.
ReplyDeletePerhaps, it's just one of those things where there's no one else to blame, and coincidently with the growth spurt of rising idol actors/actresses, he found a scapegoat to reason for his unsuccessfulness.
exactly. it's all about networking. he needs to find himself some actor/producer friends and try to work his way up from there. a lot of celebrities get to where they are because of connections
ReplyDeleteA+
ReplyDeleteTo think about it, Korea has got both the acting and music industry which falls under the same category. Usually idols would be more famous in the sense that they appear on TV more often as compared to actors/actresses. Naturally production companies would want higher ratings, which means that they would grab whom ever is popular, even though they might have little experience in acting. Although I love to see idols acting in dramas/movies, but actors and actresses should be even a higher priority because that's their profession and their rice bowl.
ReplyDeletethis reminds me of Block B's situation... how do all these entertainment companies get away with not paying their actors and singers?!
ReplyDeleteWhy are people always blaming idols. Not all of them have crappy acting. Some of them are actually good. Though, I have to say that the film producers are smart for casting in idols because they know that loyal fans will watch the drama, regardless of how bad or good it is. They do this for money, so the main problem is money. It appears that idols have a higher chance of succeeding than actors themselves.
ReplyDeletesummed up all my thoughts about this. It's not just him.
ReplyDeleteFor this K netizens, don't they think that the Idol world is all roses? There's a lot of trainees out there also sacrificing everything just so they can take on the Hallyu dream (pun intended). All in all, if you have passion you have to work harder and show them what you've got. You have to have great skills to be noticed and at least a tolerable face to look at.
Poor guy, I hope he gains success soon. But maybe if he searched for different acting opportunities then he'd get more work. It seems like he's only trying to do TV acting but what about plays or musicals (if he can sing)? Sure onscreen roles usually pay more, but If he built his experience in theater or something then maybe he'd have better luck.
ReplyDeleteAnd those production people need to be dealt with because they're taking advantage of people who are already really struggling. That's messed up :(
"There's nothing you can do about it by getting mad or getting your pride hurt." : this goes for all the bad situations, wise words
ReplyDeleteIKR? I don't know for sure but I'm guessing it's because there aren't a lot of laws or regulations to protect idols or actors? There don't even appear to be any unions in the Korean entertainment industry (correct me if I'm wrong) but those would be really helpful. Either way, something needs to be done soon because it's so sad hearing stories like this :/
ReplyDeleteWho said life is easy?
ReplyDeleteyeah and get the companies to pay the actors right away in full amount. they need to fix their system about not paying them. thats just messed up.
ReplyDeleteGee...I didn't know things are like this in Korea. Really sorry for him. He should take up other vocation.
ReplyDeleteThen how does he keep landing roles? Even minor ones? He's survived as an actor for the past 10 years, if he was a terrible actor, no one would cast him—period.
ReplyDeleteWhereas I can barely even watch Yawang because Yunho is a dead fish on screen. My heart is breaking for this actor and all of his other friends who aren't even given a chance...
THEN THEY SHOULD STICK TO ACTING AND DANCING IF IT'S SO FUCKING HARD. THEY SHOULD PERFECT DANCING AND SINGING SO NO IDOL LIP SYNCS IN ANY PERFORMANCE EVER AGAIN.
ReplyDeleteLike honestly, WHY would an idol, whose primary job is to SING and DANCE even try their hand at acting when they haven't even mastered their original job?
Being an actor is NOT a fall back career for people like Yoona or Minho who would be pretty much useless to their respective groups if they weren't so pretty.
You start from the bottom. For idols, the "bottom" is being a trainee. For actors, it's doing grunt work and putting up with getting paid almost nothing per gig. Actors work their way up from shitty roles to minor roles to supporting roles to main roles. THAT'S HOW IT IS. THAT'S HOW IT'S ALWAYS BEEN.
i feel bad for this guy..but in PDs perspective business is business...casting an idol in drama or movie is a wise move since this idol have a loyal fans that surely watch..and there i higher possibilities that they can sold it to other countries..
ReplyDeleteYou don't need to be a good actor to be cast in roles. You just will never get the really good roles if you don't know someone or if you're not exceptionally good. This is the truth in Hollywood. Korea is no different. I live in California and I know that what is happening to this guy is the same thing that happens all the time here in the U.S.
ReplyDeleteIdols or no idols its the bussiness he went in, not the idols fault. Even the star of "Transformers" Shila Buff has said that the industry is shit. This actor needs to deal with the fact its who you know not what you can do. Don't blame idols for being lucky or being given opportunities. You choose this life then deal with it.
Look at all these fucking Koreaboos. I just can't right now with you fucking idiots. Vote my comment down all you want, I couldn't give less of a flying fuck in hell. At the end of the day you defend your plastic surgery oppars and unnirs who suck at acting, singing, and dancing.
ReplyDeleteI hope you feel awesome about defending people who don't need you to defend them, while you shit all over the dreams of people like this actor. He works hard chasing his dreams, while oppar and unnir decide on a whim that they want to "try acting" and land lead roles.
I guess we have you to thank for the tragedy that is Yawang. Yunho is ruining that drama and you stupid ass Cassies are perfectly fine with it.
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Not everyone becomes an idol. Not every idol becomes famous enough to land roles in acting. There are many failed idols and many kids who don't even make it to be trainees. If you get lucky enough to be an idol and a famous one at that, then you take what you can get. It's life. Don't blame idols for doing what they can to provide for themselves and their families. Not everyone can be a star.
ReplyDeleteNo it doesn't. Why do netizens care about actors so much? This explains nothing. Idols aren't casting themselves, the industry is. It's not the idol's fault. Netizens choose the side that they can hate on someone all the time. Nothing to understand. Just hatred.
ReplyDeleteI didn't say I agree with what they do. I simply said I understand why they hate on idol actors. You should direct this comment towards them, not me.
ReplyDeleteMakes no sense because many actors also go into singing. This explains nothing but a one sided argument at a messed up industry. The life he chose is his own fault, don't blame other for being more fortunate. Thats life.
ReplyDeleteEveryone can become famous, it's just luck.
ReplyDeleteidols don't work hard.
ReplyDeletethey do nothing and gain millions of dollar.
They do a lot but don't actually get as much money as people think unless they hit it big
Deleteh.o.t.
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hmm... yeah some idols have struggled but beware of pity stories! Some companies encourage idols to make them up or exaggerate them in order to gain some public sympathy. I remember someone once said that a lot of idols that claim they haven't seen their families in a long time actually decide to shop/party with their friends instead of spending time with the family they miss soooo~~ much when their company gives them time off. Ke. Just a thought.
ReplyDeleteNot everyone has luck thus not everyone can become famous. Anyone can, not everyone. Choose your words better.
ReplyDeleteI understand them too because it's actually like when a singer in America becomes an actor/actress they usually tend to suck.
ReplyDeleteI feel like 95% of the shit knetizens complain about could be summarized by "well, bitch... dat's life". I think maybe all their mums collectively forgot to tell them how unfair life is.
ReplyDeleteActors also try to sing even if it usually doesn't work out but that doesn't mean they don't try it. It goes both ways. No point in arguing over an industry where its all luck and connections.
ReplyDeleteForgive me for my choice of words, no need to be rude.
ReplyDeleteHe didn't say what those minor roles are. For all we know it could be:
ReplyDelete-"guy standing in the corner"
-"anonymous soldier who appears in two episodes for a total of three minutes."
-"chaebol's bodyguard who always stands on his left side"
-"non speaking role as a palace eunuch for 10 episodes"
The fact that he's not making a living wage is an indication that those roles were very very minor indeed. He's been in the business that long, he knows audition places and casting calls but something's lacking in him that's why even if he shows up, juicy parts aren't being given to him.
A lot of them also have to work until they're about to faint or go for hours without sleep.
ReplyDeleteIt seems like your salty ass cares about the vote downs LOL.. This business isn't fair just like life isn't fair. The industry chooses who to cast, not the idols. They don't force anyone to cast them. You're right, they don't need defending because idols shouldn't have to defend themselves for taking advantage of whats given to them. If the industry didn;t want to cast idols the nthere would be nothing idols can do about it. Blame the industry dumb ass, not the idols.
ReplyDeleteI think his struggles to achieve his dream are typical for any actor and/or performer anywhere in the world. It's a "who you know" type of business but there should be a better system in place that when you do work, you get your pay without having to beg or negotiate for it.
ReplyDeleteIn the past, I had not been a pro-union person but after being married to a musician who for many years dealt with the sleazy side of the entertainment business before he gained recognition and was treated more respectfully in his craft, I can definitely attest to the usefulness of having organizations which represent the collective interests of its members in instances such as this.
How am I being rude? I did not use profanity. I just made sure you understood my point since it seems you missed it.
ReplyDeleteThere's never been a law that says if you're an idol then you stay an idol forever. If they want to be an all around entertainer, then why not? I myself don't like that terrible idol actors are crossing over, but hey, entertainment is a cut throat business. Nobody's going to stop and sympathize over hurt feelings, everybody's hustling to get their fame.
ReplyDeleteIt's probably lack of luck and connections more than anything haha. Idols have that "special something" alright and it's their huge ass monopolizing companies.
ReplyDeleteSome actors also suck at singing too but I agree with you.
ReplyDeleteJust because most of the people commenting aren't going 'f*ck idols. They're the scum of the industry' like the knetizens are- doesn't mean they're a koreaboo blindly defending their oppars and unnirs...
ReplyDeleteOf course it sucks that idols who can't act are getting roles that they don't deserve- but you can't just blame the idols when it comes to this issue. It's the truth when they say not everyone will get their big break-
because that's just how unfair and how difficult that industry is. To
get the big roles you either need talent, popularity, connections and/or
just plain old luck.This guy is just one of the many unfortunate people that aren't making it.
I feel so bad for this guy and all other rookie actors/actresses out there that barely make it in the industry. Look at T-ARA member Dani. She's done nothing. Had no ambitions to even be an idol and let alone be an actress. She was just picked up (literally) from the streets by some pedophile and with that pedophile's connections she's already casted in a drama. Yeah, her role wasn't important but either way that could've gone to a person who actually trained and really wants to be an actress - to build their resume and add more experience.
ReplyDelete'Choose your words better' It sounded like a command more than a suggestion. I understood your point 100%.
ReplyDeletei don't think there is wrong on what he said. you are just being OA.
ReplyDeleteand they hate too much,love too much and always criticize someone's flaw.
ReplyDeleteThere's nothing wrong with what he said, i just found it rude from my point of view but that doesn't mean i'm right.
ReplyDeleteokay sorry. it's your personal opinion.
ReplyDeleteWell, idols make the same amount as money as they do for acting. It's not entirely their fault. I'm not defending them or anything, but pointing out that's not the point. The whole industry is just messed up. They make like 10-15 dramas a year and they don't pay actors what they deserve. And netizens only blame idols? Seriously? Talk about desensitization.
ReplyDeleteThank you, that's very kind of you.
ReplyDeleteda hell is wrong with you? why are you even bringing yunho into this? he's not even in yawang episodes that much to be distracting.
ReplyDeleteI don't think idols are all to blame in this case. Seriously, when half of idols aren't particularly good at or interested in music anyway - I mean with how many of them that focus on acting now, I'm sure many of them have a passion for it too.
ReplyDeleteHas anyone mentioned the huge problems with the Korean entertainment industry itself (and I'm not talking the big 3 which is a whole diff story) - but with the broadcasters and all the shady dealings with production companies. Even big name actors have to deal with this BS: http://www.dramabeans.com/2012/12/cast-walks-out-of-great-seer-shoots-citing-no-pay/
lol you are killing me with the pedophile and the pedophile connections. so true though.
ReplyDeleteI just find it funny how thy think idols bring in viewer ratings yet most dramas that star idols flop.
ReplyDeleteI think it's getting to the point where producers might stop casting idols soon just bc in recent years dramas starring have flopped baaaad.
If you watch school 2013 you can see how man rooki actors and actresses their are. I love the pd of a school he specifically stated how he didn't want cast idols bc they don't have the time to put in that effort. The reason for casting hyoyoung was bc she auditioned just like everyone else and she wasn't doing any activities as a singer. He even made lee Jong suk quit his inkigayo gig.
You think they cast idols for ratings? LOL they just want to sell it to other countries for lots of money
DeleteThey are acting like all rookie actors are good. Maybe he is where he is because he sucks. Sorry but that is life. Some make it and some don't. I live in la and everyone is a "struggling actor" working as waiters and bartenders.
ReplyDeleteI don't think this makes a lot of sense as for an idol to be an actor, they have to go through loads to be an idol first. AND be a successful idol to get casted in an acting role. Unless your uncle is the CEO of SMent. Are the few idols who are acting REALLY the reason for the failures of actors like the one mentioned in this article? Not a very strong arguement tbh netizens. If Suzy, T-ara blah blah don't act I don't think this actor will get any more successful. Its the industry problem.
ReplyDeleteis not gonna stop cause international fans still watch dramas mainly because of idols and the dramas with idols r sold to other countries and they pay a big amount if money that is the main reason for getting idols
ReplyDeleteTHIS
ReplyDeleteWell,from my point of view, unless you're A class celebrity. it seems like entertainment industry harsh to everyone. Not just actor/actress but also singer, idol, musician, even comedian.
ReplyDeleteHonestly I don't see where idols and ratings go hand in hand except for the international market. Most shows with idols as leads have failed. Dream High was lucky enough to have a solid cast of good actors for
ReplyDeleteteachers to balance the idols playing the students. And it didn't hurt
to have Hallyu King Bae Yong Jun, who hadn't been on a drama in years in the first four eps to pull that older audience to what could have been seen as a teen drama. That plus a solid writer, a theme that hadn't been done before, as well as Kim Soo Hyun, made that show strong. With so many variety shows with idols getting cancelled due to low rating, you barely see them in the many variety shows they used to be on. Even "Immortal Song 2" which started off as a show to show off the skills of vocally talented idols switched gears and focused on the best soloists, groups, and bands instead. The idols are still there but there's always just one or two of them.
It took John Hamm 10 or more years to land his leading role on mad men, before that he was a nobody - getting older while roles were going to younger, fresher actors. Same with Jessica Chastain. It's just life and it happens everywhere. In hollywood people complain about nepotism, in Korea people complain about idols. Life is a bitch and acting is a gamble. He was already old when idols started acting en masse so there is no way idols are taking roles from him. Sounds like a spin from a journalist.
ReplyDeleteWhy would they not pay him. It's very selfish and greedy. I'm wondering if Korea doesn't have an actors guild or association who can look out for their own
ReplyDeletewhat is OA?
ReplyDeleteThose are known as "extras", which is a step below minor roles.
ReplyDeleteLol this actor is whining. These things happen all around the world--not just with actors, but in all aspects of the entertainment community. There are A-listers who were paid a lot, B-listers who have decent pay and there are others who always have minor roles. Same case with idols. There are A listers like SNSD, BigBang, TVXQ, and etc....and of course, there are those idols who couldn't get popularity no matter how hard they try.
ReplyDeletePeople just need to accept the reality that life is not fair - people would prefer other people from them, if they think they're not good enough.
Also, there are instances that no matter how hardworking and good you are, you will never be enough for other people... because they have certain things that they are looking for. Life is like that, people just need to accept it.
so basically all the netizens complaining about idols are just flop actors that think they deserve that spot. It's not about what you know it's who you know. Kim tae hee and han ga in are the worst and they aren't idols. Should rookie actors get their jobs?
ReplyDeletevery true...
ReplyDeletesunny actually auditioned without him knowing...
ReplyDeleteif you spend 10 years being an extra maybe it's time to pick another profession.
ReplyDeleteYah i really agree all the times when I'm watching 3-4 dramas at the same time, a actor (usually an older one) will appear in at least 3 of the dramas...and I'm like...huh? Really couldn't they get someone else. I see the same faces all the time, especially when it comes to mothers,fathers, grandparents...and pretty much older crowd. Like the Secret Garden mom has now been in so many different dramas...and shes not even that good.
ReplyDeleteyah honestly I agree with so many of the comments on here...this kind of reminds me of Ailee..I used to watch her youtube videos before she was famous...and I even commented saying someone should sign her...she tried to make a career for herself in America...but clearly that didn't happen...and now luckly cause of her race/connections she's a super rookie. I mean if she didn't make the decision to go and come to Korea her talent would be wasted.
ReplyDelete"I grew up knowing that pursuing the arts runs the risk of going hungry so I learned to starve when without money and help others when with." ---> I can totally realte with this since I'm pursuing an arts related degree.
ReplyDeleteThis man is so passionate that I want him to find success sooner or later.
I want to commend him on his passion! These days, it's hard to find someone who has the passion to pursue his dream. You only see a lot of people that, for example, take on jobs/careers not because they like it but because of the pay they earn or they are afraid how people will judge them on their personal choices in life. This man however stuck to his ambitions and didn't care. Call him selfish but the people that wants him to stop are, in a way, is even more selfish. Finally, it's sweet that his family is supporting him which means he's not fighting this battle on his own :)
ReplyDeletepeople always use the "she got her place there because of her uncle is the CEO" without even know the truth... >_>
ReplyDeletei bet if she didnt have what it takes, SME wont accept her either...
He can go try out to be an idol. No one's stopping him.
ReplyDeleteThen they should start from the bottom, like everyone else.
ReplyDeleteWhy should idols get main roles in dramas without experience and acceptance to colleges without taking entrance exams?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
How would you like it if you didn't get an internship or job, even though you're qualified for it, because some famous supermodel decides they want it even though they're completely inexperienced?
LIFE IS HARD. TOUGH SHIT, RIGHT?
It's people like you that encourage shit like bribery, blackmail, and corruption because HEY NO ONE'S GONNA STOP AND SYMPATHIZE OVER HURT FEELINGS. If YOU ever get fucked over and screwed out of something you've worked your entire life for, don't cry to anyone okay? Because that's how life is.
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ReplyDeleteI honestly have no idea what you're talking about when you say you don't need to be a good actor to be cast in roles.
ReplyDeleteUm... You know what... go watch Inception. Amazing movie. Great plot. But imagine what that great, amazing, perfectly cast movie would've been like if you had Joe Jonas playing Leonardo DiCaprio's role and Demi Lovato playing Ellen Page's role.
Yeah. That's what I thought.
What celebrities...? Most A-list Hollywood actors started from the very bottom, with tiny roles on tv shows.
ReplyDeleteJim Carrey dropped out of high school at age 15 to work as a janitor because his family was poor. He wanted to become an entertainer and even though his family literally had no money, he worked hard to get to where he is now. He went to open-mic nights and did a comedy routine. After he had built up a reputation, he started getting paid gigs until he was brought in by Rodney Dangerfield to be his opening act.
He auditioned for a role in the cast of Saturday Night Live and was rejected. The roles he had after that were minor roles that didn't even have a name in low-budget films. He kept auditioning until he landed a spot on a sketch comedy show with the Wayans brothers, which led to him landing his first big role in Ace Ventura.
THAT is how you are supposed to earn your stripes. The entertainment industry IS tough. Nothing is easy. You work your way up, built up a reputation, so that when you reach the top no one questions your place there.
George Clooney's career started off the same way: roles as an extra in various tv shows, then minor roles in sitcoms. His big break came when he was cast as a character in E.R., which he had to AUDITION for.
Y'all kpop fans are ridiculous. Just shut up already.
If he was a bad actor with no talent, he wouldn't have survived for over 10 years in the industry. Bad actors don't get cast in anything unless they're idols.
ReplyDelete...what actors? I mean, I know some do songs for their drama OSTs, like Park Shin Hye... But I honestly cannot think of any actor that's crossed over from acting to singing except for So Ji Sub, but his album was a complete and utter flop.
ReplyDeleteidols are less often cast in movies and very rarely cast in movies that are blockbuster status or cross over to international popularity. the only one i can think of off the top of my head is 71 into the fire which had top in it and he acted his part VERY well and was deserving of the part imo.
ReplyDeleteon television in the us there are tons of singers who have gotten television shows and they're really not very good actors. they get their roles and their shows (of which they are the stars and which usually run for multiple seasons and sometimes get 100+ episodes) not because they are ~super talented~ but because they have the proper connections. the funniest thing about your example? joe jonas and demi lovato both starred in their on television shows on disney channel. those shows obviously weren't meant for the mainstream and even get hated on by a lot of people, but they were popular within their fanbases, ran for multiple seasons and made lots of money for everyone involved. hell, even justin beiber had a multiple episode guest starring role on csi.
by trying to compare a movie on the scale of inception to a television show, you're comparing apples and oranges.
they should change the title to " the reality of an idiot who don't understand that he was an untalented idiot" :p
ReplyDeletesome people just can't accept that they are talentless, and even shamelessly ruin their family life just to pursue a hopeless dream
ReplyDeleteoverreacting.
ReplyDeletein short, they are sensitive. i had a korean friend and that's what i noticed. i think it's already part of their culture.
ReplyDeleteYou're living in a dream world. "Start from the bottom" yeah that's very idealistic, but IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. You're not going anywhere if you just stay on your high horse and be all humble and moral while everybody fights their way to the top.
ReplyDeleteSimple Summary: Entertainment is a very harsh business. No, don't expect fairness at all in an industry where qualities like looks, height and age can make or break you. It's not a school where being a good boy or girl can get you rewarded.
Like I said, if he's not making a living wage from acting then he's not getting much roles at all. And if an entertainment agency hasn't picked him up yet after 10 years, then I seriously doubt that the parts he was getting meant serious camera time. Someone with a decent portfolio would have more connections by this time.
ReplyDeletequite agreee but .........there are lots of actor and actress that get casted based on the looks not becoz they passes some major in acting from any university......some of the good looking actor and actress with experience are getting better recieving accolades and some despite backfire from netizens still managing to get roles becoz of their looks......so what the fuss about idols being casted.....i know some really suck but recently there have been idols who are doing a great job.......but yes drama pd's need to be smart enought to pick who can perform.....idols casting not only happens in korea but in america and other parts of the worlds....doesn't singer in american do movies..........i agree to your view that all idol do not bring viewer ratings except some idols all others don't have much impact on ratings examples being kim hun joong,minho,yongwha and many others who have had terrible flopped dramas........but yes idols bring the overseas marketing into equation.........yes it it's a bit unfair to rookie actor who have passed major in acting in university and theatre......but in what way those good looking actors are different from idols who both suck at acting........but nothing can be done about we have just got to accept it.........and coming to this man yes it is unfair to him but there are lot not only in this field but also in sports or professional work who don't get the limelight the teammate gets......successs is not only hardwork but also with that 20-30% luck.....the% may be small but it is very very important.....and admit not all become suceessful even if they work freaking hard......as far far as this acting industry goes in today's standard you need good looks,talent and along with that bit of luck.....but there are also many people like chaehe tyun who have defied this all and are greatly sucesssful......so by blaming you don't get anything i admit it's a bit unfair to him but also same to others in other fields as well......there is no end to it......not all become successful otherwise there would be no sorrow in the world......you have keep working hard and trust to cross the bridge some day and even if you don't you can hold your head high for atleast for giving it all and satisfied with your effort of giving your best till the end.......
ReplyDeletejust look how oh yeon seo try hard for 10 years in order to succeed and she is not ugly and she can act. when she decided to quit acting she finally got cast to a role that bust her popularity and she became famous.
ReplyDeletefor the fact that he went anonymous kinda makes everything irrelevant somehow. Sure his passion for acting makes him still want to dwell in the business, hence the need to conceal his identity. But with that alone, we can't really know for sure his achievement so far, whether he's a really good actor or not. Really hope he find himself in a better condition soon, by all means.
ReplyDeleteYes, that's great. Put the blame to idols. Yep. That's the right thing to do, indeed.
ReplyDeleteidols also go through hardships, not everyone is as lucky as snsd and bigbang
ReplyDeleteReading this remind me of Hollywood story. They say Hollywood is full of actor-wanna-be that will doing any kind of jobs (waitress, bartenders, etc) so they can fulfill their end meets while waiting for an opportunity to land a major role. Tbh I think this story not exclusively happen in Korea but also in other country's entertainment industry.
ReplyDeleteAnyway if u stay in an industry for more than 10years & still can't find your breakthrough... isn't it time for you to reconsider your way of life? Probably your talent wasn't acting even tho your passion is or you casting for 'wrong' role so your capability not showing.
yes, please too much idols who can't act have ruined drama for me, I prefer a nameless actor who can act that some untalented idols like Minho, dongho, suzy or yoona etc...
ReplyDeleteI think pll are missing the point. Yes, idols get roles that should be given to seasoned actors, but that's like going after the small fish.
ReplyDeleteThe real problem is the broadcasting companies, who don't pay the actors on time, pay them little and tend to have shady dealings. It seems like idols are being used as scrapegoats to hide the real problem here. Much more easier to go after idols than big companies, but that won't solve anything.
does those knetizen even read the article?!?
ReplyDeleteNow I understand even more why netizen are angry if idols get the lead role...
ReplyDeleteIn fact, the drama industry is seriously messed up nowadays. It is true that lots of actors end up getting little money, but this is even worse in Korea. The staff and actors with smaller roles in Korea are not given the equivalent amount of money that their counterparts will get in another country.
ReplyDeleteYou can't deny that today, lots of rookies are being excluded more unfairly than in the past. I know that that guy in the article is so unrelated to competition with idols, but it is true that rookie actors today have to vie against idols to get some role. Years ago, there were hardly any idols in the drama, but nowadays they are increasingly populating the dramas due to Kpop wave. It is understandable that the producers want more money, but ethically, this situation is lamentable.
I agree on what you said, but in Korea, the situation is worse. Supporting actors don't receive the equivalent amount of earnings that their counterparts in other countries get. This contributes even more to the lack of his success, and it is undeniable this is unfair.
ReplyDeleteI agree that KTH is a horrible actress, and people like her shouldn't casted in dramas. But on the other hand, there are lots of talented rookies that can't receive roles due to the presence of idols, and I believe this is unfair.
ReplyDelete" for those who don't get the boost in opportunities idols are generously given. "
ReplyDeletebut they never talked about idols though just about producers who don't pay their actors, i don't see how it can be idols's fault !
idols are used of course to increase the ratings of a drama or a film but they try to make money too and most of them (not all i admit) are really interested by acting.
but i agree that idols should study acting before and then take small roles and finally grow up as actors, it's kinda unfair for rookies actors.
but idols can't be responsible for all the misery of the world ! they are products too and are used as products but they know how to sell themselves and it's maybe what actors need to do ! promote themselves more because you can't change the industry, it's the way how things work : popularity.
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ReplyDelete- The fact that dramas are using idols simply for the "money" and for their fanbase to raise viewer ratings just goes to show that idols are not "singers" but "products" -
ReplyDeleteTruth.
10. [+122, -8] Kids like Suzy are so blessed.
ReplyDeletei agree, fucking overrated bitch
let's be real~~~ i bet you're one of those stupid fans who actually loveeeeees seeing their favorite idols on tv.
ReplyDeleteI agree with them on almost everything as a Kdrama lover. But seems they forget some of idols intended to be actors but companies made use of them in kpop. As much as idols ruining Kdramas those acting idols are doing the same for Kpop groups. They have no talent in music but they still take a place as a singer or dancer.. Then K-netizens would say our country's idols can't sing..
ReplyDeletethose idols who can't act should focus on their singing @ dancing, so they don't have to lip-sync..respect any actors @ actress who really work hard to achieve their dream,but some producers just blind & they choose some idols maybe bcoz of their looks but not their talents..
ReplyDeleteI just see a lot of comments defending idol actors. Idol singer are train to "singing and dance", and not act. I won't say anything about this guy, because it might be his own acting skills which is lead him to no where. But I THINK the main problem with k-netizens are that more and more idol actors getting the lead role in the drama(not those idol drama but drama which is historical and etc) and not those real actors. Sometime I think fans are just defending their idol and not looking at the truth, just like TTYL i only say "minho is not a real actor " in one of the teaser video and there are about 4-5 shawols start to argue with me. i think it is useless to defend idols useless they really act well and show k-netizen something good. Even though K-netizens are really strict and crazy on bashing the idols but if idols give them a good performance they will just keep quiet and some will even praise them. Not blaming the idols but the production companies and the idol's company for accepting it.
ReplyDelete**I am a shawol so if you are going reply me about minho's talents or whatever plead don't, because as a shawol i know clearly his good and bad points than many of you here and i have tired of seeing people bashing minho:) sorry for my bad eng:)
Have you ever been to New York or LA? Everyone is so good-looking, from the waitresses to the busboys to everyone you come across. Why? Everyone's trying to be actors one way or another.
ReplyDeleteAs if every lead and supporting actor out there is so talented.
ReplyDeleteEven getting top universities in korea is easy as cakes for idols...whatabout a student who spend their entire life studying only to be denied because they r accepting idols..this is y netizen dont like them so much...
ReplyDeleteIt's no wonder Han Ye Seul did what she did.
ReplyDeleteIt all boils down to popularity, and this is true not just in Korean entertainment industry. There are a lot of instant celebrities, not all of them last long, though.
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