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Monday, February 18, 2013

Park Shi Hoo indicted for alleged rape of a trainee 16 years his junior


Article: [Exclusive] Park Shi Hoo indicted for the alleged rape of a celebrity trainee

Source: Starin via Nate

1. [+1,475, -238] There's nothing that has been confirmed as facts yet.. He's a man that can barely drink two glasses of soju. I think it's suspicious that this article is coming out right after his contract with his agency has ended... It seems obvious they want to drop his worth.

2. [+1,143, -159] People shouldn't speculate or criticize until the facts are out. As a Park Shi Hoo fan, I just hope none of this is true.

3. [+1,079, -522] That young bi*ch probably enjoyed sleeping around with a handsome man like him but it looks like she also wants to make a bit of cash out of it now too.. What a scary world. But then again, no 22 year old is that innocent in this world anymore, especially if she's a trainee on top of that. The law will obviously take her side ㅋㅋ

4. [+344, -83] Seems like she's in it for the money. What is Park Shi Hoo even lacking for him to even think of raping her?

5. [+285, -50] Park Shi Hoo is doing great lately and has a handsome face, so why would he rape anyone ㅋㅋ Seems like he's just been bitten by a woman out for money. This will definitely impact his image.

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Article: Suspicions over Park Shi Hoo's alleged rape case arise... "We are confirming the facts, please don't jump to conclusions"

Source: Star Today via Nate

1. [+334, -38] How can she just wake up and realize she's raped? Does she even remember anything? Is she sure she wasn't dreaming?

2. [+292, -18] Yup, we have a lot of suspicions as well which is why we're waiting

3. [+298, -47] Why can't the company just say they want him to sign on with them again?

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Article: Park Shi Hoo finally speaks up "We had interest in each other as man and woman... There was no force"

Source
: E-News via Nate

1. [+394, -39] So it was basically a one night stand ㅋㅋ What a way to beat around the bush just to say that.. Anyway, this will impact his clean image for sure.. While a one night is your personal choice, it doesn't do anything in helping to keep up a clean image ㅋㅋ

2. [+353, -33] So he's basically saying he had sex with a person he met a day ago... a one night stand

3. [+280, -18] Oh my god

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Article: Park Shi Hoo denies sexual assault "There was nothing forced" official statement

Source: Segye Ilbo via Nate

1. [+89, -7] So they did have sex.

2. [+85, -15] So the only fact revealed so far is that they both did have sex. Looks like his fans will be divided into two camps, the former being a similar response to Big Bang's Seungri where they recognize that he's an adult and let it go and the latter being his hardcore fans who suffer a mental breakdown. When IU and Baek Ji Young, adult females, have sex with someone they love, they get hated on until they turn into dust.... Meanwhile male celebrities get the pass, reasoning "They're adults".... It won't be hard for Park Shi Hoo to recover his image.

3. [+77, -25] He worked so hard from the bottom up to get to where he is now... All he had left to do was reap his rewards and keep his image clean... I guess we'll have to wait for further investigations.

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Article: Park Shi Hoo's official statement "I did not force her to have sex"

Source:
OSEN via Nate

1. [+138, -19] So... you're saying that... you basically slept... with her... right?

2. [+124, -12] Trainee: Yes, this is what I was looking for

3. [+135, -42] Seungri: Welcome aboard, this is the first time for you, eh?

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Article: Park Shi Hoo "Regretful over suspicions of rape, he will be taking legal action against A"

Source: Sports Seoul via Nate

1. [+39, -6] Park Shi Hoo's actual age is '76er, not the '78er that he claims. That means he had sex with a young girl 16 years younger than him - she could practically be his daughter - on the first night they met. Whether or not it was forced, this is disgusting and practically on the level of Go Young Wook. They were interested in each other as man and woman?

2. [+35, -7] Whether or not this is a ploy by his company to keep him on, what's basically confirmed is that he indeed had sex with her. .. ㅋ

3. [+26, -4] Park Shi Hoo is 38 years old... therefore, 16 year age difference with the trainee

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115 comments:

  1. She said that they were both drinking, this could mean that he was also drunk, or not. So again at the end, none of us know the truth.

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  2. Yep, at the end, we have only our individual feelings about this case, let's just wish that justice will be made right and that no one will ever have to find themselves in this situation.

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  3. I am in the mid of the drama Alice~.. And i loved his acting there, though to my taste the man actress is too young for the role. I was tempted to believe it is all rumors but since he admitted sleeping with her.. Being an actor/ess, singer is really difficult in Korea, people easily interfere with whatever you are doing.

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  4. It is if he didn't get her consent, she lost conscious and he put his hands on her? that's rape for me and that's more disgusting tbh.

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  5. plz don't take sides and refrain from it be it park shi hoo or the alleged victim.....she has more to loose if she is lying... we all know stars usually easily get way and also there are lot of examples of powerful star and agencies in the past and present have buried all accusation becoz of their powerful status and connections...... .i am not accusing park shi hoo and he may be innocent but saying that she will loose more than park shi hoo if she is lying......

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  6. Maybe you should read about rape? Consent given when one is drunk is not legally consent, this is how it is in most countries in the world and morally too. Do you seriously think you're in a right mind to decide about anything when you're drunk?

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  7. Because you have to be ugly to rape someone....smh

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  8. 2013 started bad for many actors/singers..

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  9. You should see the comments on AKP, it is absolutely disgusting there. Some of them saying,"I wouldn't mind being sexually assaulted by him. ;) ." The fuck???

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  10. Both parties are adults (she is of college age, or even completed college), so the age gap is not an issue at all. The only issue here is if it was rape or consensual, which needs to be investigated now that the allegation was made.

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  11. Technically the age gap is not an issue no, but morally in my opinion it is. Especially knowing how Korean culture is - from my understanding which i am not saying is absolute - age is a BIG issue over there and the fact that 1 year alone can make such a difference in whether you can even be friends with someone shows you that it is not something easily dismissed. I am trying to see it not just from my western perspective but from a Korean perspective as well. Also keep in mind that the levels of life experience and maturity gained from it is different for Koreans as it is for us. Just because she is college age doesn't mean she has the same maturity as our college students. There are many articles on the internet discussing how Koreans of college age are less mature when it comes to dating and love then their western counterparts.

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  12. Why is it so difficult to believe that a powerful man would abuse his power? I guess things like these happen regularly in the (k) ent biz, the girls just don't report it or think about it as a necessary evil if they want a career in showbiz.

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  13. This is so disgusting, the comments are all vom-inducing, people are vile creatures ugh.

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  14. rape allegation is complicated. it's hard to prove whether it's a mutual consent between two of them or just a one person's opinion. it's not like you sign some contract before you did it (or maybe those male celebs should do this later). i'm not going to say who's at fault, because it's not something to take upon lightly. however, some people ask about not judging first yet they easily calling out the lady. some comments are so ignorant as heck too. no matter how handsome is your rapist, rape is never a pleasant memory to you. and where are those people who quick to criticize seungri's morality? this guy did the same thing, one night stand. well, maybe without kinky or towel. such double standard, srsly. all because park shihoo is handsome and an actor.

    on the other note, i'm surprised at his age o_O last time i checked his dramawiki, he's listed as 82. imagine how uncomfortable he's to be talked down by his hoobae. xD

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  15. she actually won't have anything to lose because the will never publicize her name......i can bet you she wasn't a virgin

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  16. Why would anyone accuse anyone of rape and actually charge them of a criminal act if they're lying it sounds messy. Even though this sounds dark wouldn't it be easier to get pictures of them in a compromising positions especially since they did have sex. I don't know one thing I hate is victim blaming.

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  17. It's not a homogeneous population over there. At what age is a girl then mature enough to choose who they want to date - 25, 30? What is an acceptable age gap? There's a legal number and then after that, how mature one is depends on the individual, so I don't think you can generalize it to say that dating someone much younger is morally wrong. I'm not Korean, but I have lived in Asia and been to Korea and got drunk with Koreans - I didn't find them much different on a personal level. Some will be mature, some will be immature for their age.

    I think we just have to agree to disagree here. If he raped her, that's awful and he doesn't deserve to be sentenced lightly just because he's an actor and/or good looking. He may have been in a position of power (but I would say it's status vs. age), and that's just wrong if he raped her. But if it was consensual, then it's also unfair to compare him to a child molester just because he slept with an adult who happened to be much younger than him.

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  18. There's lots of misogyny in Korea

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  19. "i can bet you she wasn't a virgin"
    this is such a vile comment, like how is that even necessary?

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  20. Being drunk is not the same as being inconcious...

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  21. So many Korean males are so.....misogynist. Do they actually say this in real life?

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  22. Some delusional fangirls said this on AKP,"I wouldn't mind being sexually assaulted by him ;) ." Ughhhh....

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  23. I believe in him. Even though I don't know him personally, from interviews and articles I have read, he is not that type of person. He is persevering and reticent. He talked about taking life one day at a time. He reflected on his long climb from the bottom to the top as an experience that he did not rush, that he enjoyed the way, He photographs scenery, flowers, sand roads. He has experienced much adversaries to get where he is today. He is restrained and responsible. He would not do this.

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  24. Well you'd certainly be ugly on the inside.

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  25. I wonder that too.

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  26. I am thinking he/she is saying something else. Most of the cases that went public, some of these so called fans would defend him because of how he looks. Now,when it comes to Go Young Wook(froom Roora),everybody bashed him.

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  27. Didn't the Korean netizens do that math problem earlier? Jesus Christ she isn't like 14 16, it's the age difference you tard~ They should get a lie detector test or something, because Shi Hoo as much as a love him, if he committed rape then he's trash. But as we know right now, his contract is ending so this scandal can be kinda be blown out of proportion so he has to renew with his company or something... Plus he said that both parties agreed to it. She's a grown ass bitch, I don't understand why she's accusing him of rape if they had intercourse like what, months ago? Honey please get your sh*t together because if you're lying about the rape you ain't getting a penny out of him~ L.O.L

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  28. It's astounding how people ignore the definitions of rape.

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  29. 3. [+135, -42] Seungri: Welcome aboard, this is the first time for you, eh?


    Netizens are going to be the death of me. lol.

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  30. 2SugoiToLive2Kawaii2dieFebruary 18, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    From what I read on Koreabang (where Misogyny in the comments if FARRRR worse) They don't. They refer to females as Kimchi girls who are plastic and will fuck any foreigner because they're sluts, yet they never speak that way to women... so idk. There's a lot of bruised male egos in Korea.

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  31. I completly understand your point of view, when I see these kind of cases, I ask myself, "why did the hell she drink to the point of not remember anything?", this is not right at all, this is what happens, not just to women, but men too, they get super drunk and forget the person they had sex. So stupid.

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  32. rape is always a he said/she said thing. how are we to know if there was consent? not trying to detract from the seriousness of rape, but i'm just saying it's very difficult to prove.

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  33. What does this have to do with her comment at all? I think it's a known fact.

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  34. I'm not sure what your motive is but those comments about "kimchi girls" are libe specific, a community ran by much more extreme idiots than the average Koreaan male.


    Both types are bad (but not all of them are like this, I'm sure) but don't use libe terms to generalize Korean men.

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  35. OMG... Park Shi Hoo is '76?!
    He sure doesn't look like one..!
    I thought he's in early 30s...

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  36. I think you can find a lot of different cases, like: 1. the girl is drunk but the guy is not drunk, even if she says no while drunk, he doesn't care and he uses her, that's rape; 2. the guy puts some drug in her drink and makes the girl lose her conscious, he rapes her; 3. they are both drinking, they both get drunk, they have sex, he remembers the sex but she doesn't, is that really rape? and if she consented the sex when they were both drunk but she doesn't rebember because she was drunk? - There are a lot of different cases. To all women out there: 1. Don't drink to the point of losing your conscious so you can protect yourself and say no if you don't want have sex. 2. Always pay attention in your drink so people won't put any drugs on it. 3. Buy the rape kit that comes with peper spray and other useful stuff. Or even buy peper and put in a little bag inside your purse. 4. Don't be afraid of protect yourself, go for the balls, or for the eyes, scream, trow yourself to the floor.
    [...] So, could a drunk woman protect herself properly? Don't get drunk in the first place, be responsible.

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  37. like what is up with this shit!!! first kim young kwang now park shi hoo seriously, SERIOUSLY!!! i really can pick them. in tyra voice "I WAS ROOTING FOR YOU, WE ALL WERE ROOTING FOR YOU!!!"


    oh and the comments, my god, NOW IM FEELING JUST FUCKING DISGUSTED!!! so messed up and just plain unhumane

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  38. "So, could a drunk woman protect herself properly? Don't get drunk in the first place, be responsible."
    NO
    People should teach men not to rape, period. That's the only solution.

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  39. Fucking sexists and misogynists. That's all I see. If these guys think patriarchy is so good, then big shitty assholes like the Taliban would surely welcome them.

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  40. but he drunk or not, if he rape her, it's still that, a rape xd

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  41. it's not just ilbe users who make those comments. Go to any portal website comments, so many comments with "kimchi girl" word get so many likes.

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  42. why the hell are they putting seungri in this..as if he raped someone...thats so fucked up

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  43. the comments on the first few articles are absolutely disgusting. how sad

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  44. And make the punishment for rape much more harsher, just to supplement things.

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  45. there's a lot of misogyny everywhere in the world, sadly

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  46. does he look 76 to you...


    it even says he's 38 in the article...did you even read it

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  47. 1. [+334, -38] How can she just wake up and realize she's raped? Does
    she even remember anything? Is she sure she wasn't dreaming?


    LOL nice one

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  48. "from interviews and articles I have read, he is not that type of person"

    "from interviews and articles"

    seems a good way to know well someone

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  49. 4. [+344, -83] Seems like she's in it for the money. What is Park Shi Hoo even lacking for him to even think of raping her?



    So if you're handsome, there is no reason for you to be a rapist. This is basically the gist im getting from these comments. I always thought that Dream High was exaggerating the victim blaming, but looks like its pretty accurate. Ridiculous.

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  50. People can't teach rapists not to rape, there's something broke in their heads, a rapist will rape you, a murderer will kill you, you can't fix that and the world is full of them, you have to protect yourself in all the ways you can. And drink like an idiot won't help you. And if someone had raped and also murdered the girl? She was dead drunk, an easy target.

    Don't mix my words to your opinion, I AM NOT defending any f***ed up rapists that say shit like "she shouldn't had dress this way so she wouldn't be raped", any woman has the right to dress any way she wants, this not give right to any man rape any woman because of that.
    I'm saying DON'T PUT YOURSELF IN A DANGEROUS SITUATION LIKE GET DEAD DRUNK.

    I would never drink to the point of losing my own conscious. That's being dumb.
    How old are you? Have you ever saw a drunk person doing stupid things, and if it was a girl, did you see like the men around had fun in seeing the girl losing her mind and embarassing herself?
    This is the real world, darling, you can't teach rapists not to rape. How old are you?

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  51. If it was mutual then she is 22 and an adult... I don't see how just because she's 16 years younger that its wrong if they're not related and she's an adult.... However, if it wasn't mutual and she was raped then something needs to be done...

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  52. We are not talking about sick people, i got what you are saying, but it's different now... have you hear about the "rape" culture"?

    i mean it's not about sick people, it's about normal people who think they have the RIGHT to rape, just cause they don't respect women. They don't see what they are doing as wrong, they blame the victime, etc.

    my english is so limited that i can't express good with it, sorry.

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  53. 2SugoiToLive2Kawaii2dieFebruary 18, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    I don't have a motive, I'm just reporting what I see. And comments calling girls Kimchi girls are not restricted to libe.


    I'm not generalizing, I said there's a lot of bruised male egos in Korea, which there are. I never said all Korean men are like that, but Misogyny is strong in Korea and you can't deny that.

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  54. If he was also drunk...then by your logic, SHE raped him.

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  55. That's the stupidest logic I've ever seen. If she is drunk, then he raped her....but if HE was also drunk and vulnerable, she can't rape him? you're an idiot

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  56. Thanks for a real comment here. 1/2 are obviously bad...but #3 is the most common situation and it's not rape. It's just two people being irresponsible, which is bad but not illegal.


    to all the ladies: Regret doesn't give you the right to alter reality and accuse an innocent man of rape. If you regret sleeping with someone cause you were drunk, then grow the fuck up and act responsibly next time

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  57. How about girls fucking learn how to be responsible for themselves? If both people are drunk and end up having sex...that's just what happens.

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  58. I'm sorry but it's not normal to think about rape someone, this is not normal people. They are not normal in a lot of levels.

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  59. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l3h8fzv-BM

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  60. You know i can't deal with comments like that sometimes.. Like wtf!! The girl left a really intelligent comment and out of nowhere , and you call her the n word!! That is so uncalled for.

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  61. Internet thugs you know. >.>

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  62. i'm just thinking about how different the comments if park shihoo is an idol.

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  63. But that comment is so unfair. Go Young Wook and Park Shi Hoo.'s case is really different and in a different level. With GYW, he molests young girls (13-17 yrs). With PSH, the girl is already in her 20's.

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  64. The "logic" in the netizens' comments disgust me.

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  65. even if it wasn't forced this is still a foking rape case. the fact that she is a minor should overshadow the fact that it wasn't "forced". i honestly don't believe that just because someone has had a clean image or has "nothing to lose", they should be excused from touching a gotdamn minor. it just disgusts me how im sitting here having to type this kind of response when shite like this shouldn't happen in the first place. She was asking for it? she's a gotdamn trainee who wants fame, of course she's gonna get it any way she can, regardless of the negatives that would occur ((to her and everyone involved)). The fact that there are people trying to defend him "mutually" touching a minor whom probably thought this would be her shot to fame are so sick, this isn't even a proper comment anymore. it's just me ranting about my extreme loath towards this man and every one of his stupid defenders. Gosh, this reminds me of when kkkwang did blackface and all his stupid fangirls tried to defend him with the 'ignorance' card. Even if PSH didn't know she was a minor, it was 'mutual' feelings and consent, or this was all some ploy by his ex company and the girl, that is no excuse for his ignorance to exclude him from proper punishment by law and hopefully by that girl's parents. Sometimes i look back at when me and my family still lived in korea, and i'm kinda glad we left. the country has a very, very corrupt law/judicial system where money equalls power, and i wouldn't be suprised if park used his money to get out of this. i'm not exactly ashamed to be korean, but i just wish the law system wasn't so dissapointingly foked up.

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  66. Not if the girl's saying that he rape her, that's mean she didn't want to....

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  67. It's not like only crazy people rape and murder. Some just don't have any bit of respect for women, some are dead drunk, some want revenge (how many cases there are when a guy rapes his ex-girlfriend), some think that "no" means "yes", some really are just fucking crazy etc. It's not like every rape case is a copy of a another.

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  68. wow wth why are they dissing the woman when he's the one in charge for raping? just because he's a guy and a handsome celebrity...so he can get away just like that?
    yes, we can't jump into conclusion so quickly..but still wth the woman shouldn't be blame like that as well-.-

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  69. wow netizens didn't learn from dramas? handsome guys are usually douchebag.

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  70. 76 as in year he was born. not his age. so he/she was shock that si hoo is 38. calm down.

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  71. Is love still a crime? Something fishy about this accusation.....and the girl is IN it for the money. Expect Shi Hoo to take false charges of 'rape' due to drunken sex and the fact that she's 16 years younger(So...she's legit now) than him..... She'll get her 'rape' insurance.

    Reminds me of the Kobe Bryant 'rape' case that the victim cheat and lied to him. Scattered Black Mamba's image. (He DID cheated his wife, ONCE)

    Poor Park Shi Hoo. It's lonely being old and famous.

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  72. She's NOT a minor.........not anymore

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  73. he can get a lot of women, why should he forces himself on anyone?
    this sounds like the IMF case when the girl wants to make some money and get some fame along the way, any publicity is good for a no name trainee

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  74. don't hang out with a guy, lead him on, get real drunk then claim it's not consensual.
    BTW, I am a woman but I don't feel sorry for "loose" ones; go along with it then regret and start blaming, maybe get some fame and fortune along the way. Plenty of women liars out there, don't get drunk with a man if you are not looking for trouble

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  75. It's the internet. People are idiots.

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  76. just cuz she's drunk dont mean its not rape

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  77. oh no...Park Shi Hoo is one of my favorite actor...why him? he's such a great actor

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  78. Ok i can agree that he is not on the same level as GYW, but i think someone who is almost 40 should not try to have relationship with someone in their early 20's. It my moral opinion based on situations i have seen myself involving older man/younger woman and older woman/younger man. Of course those few situations can't be used to generalize every situation but they are what have led me to my beliefs. My opinion could change in the future but as of right now, i am put off by him for that reason, not for the alleged rape charge.
    As far as the alleged rape, I personally believe i have to have all the facts first before choosing a side.

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  79. BTW, although we don't agree i liked every comment you made because i can see and understand your point, even though i may not agree. :)

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  80. excuse me...you're asking why is it him? well simply because he's a complete bastard from the beginning....that's why he's a good actor because he's acting all his life-.-

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  81. I am not used to be so involved with actor or actresses and I'm not even such a huge fan of PSH but on reading news and comments about his case, I felt disgusted. It's really scary how a handsome and capable actor can suddenly be in the middle of this bad business! I hope the truth will soon be revealed.
    Everything should be transparent. Why is it that only PSH has been so dragged down by this news? Why not name this girl and the other junior actor involved so their background and possible motives may be judged accordingly....

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  82. she went to police right after it occurred and they state she is 22 in Korean age. Like i said, because Koreans consider ou 1 years old at time of birth plus depending when in the year you were born it can add another year, she was physically either 20 or 21.

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