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Monday, July 13, 2015

The bigger issue: Black Nut


Article: 'Show Me 4', the person who really needs to be kicked off the show is Black Nut 'Yoon Mirae put down'

Source:
Ilgan Sports via Naver

Read his lyrics here (GRAPHIC)

1. [+346, -24] Kick him off the show, what's the point of this ilbe bug

2. [+332, -22] I agree γ…‹γ…‹γ…‹ he's the biggest problem..

3. [+301, -16] He has mental issues, he needs to get checked out

4. [+276, -18] Read the article, he really does sound like he needs to be kicked off the show..

5. [+251, -16] Even if you ignore the fact that he's an ilbe user, he's got plenty of other issues

6. [+71, -5] It's not simply a matter of kicking him off the show, he needs to get mentally checked out and locked up

7. [+72, -8] His lyrics are about raping a classmate and killing her boyfriend and then talking about Yoon Mirae in all sorts of horrifyingly sexual ways... Song Minho didn't do anything right but he's worse than Song Minho..

8. [+69, -7] He's just rock bottom

9. [+68, -8] Take the show off air

10. [+68, -11] He's insane, he should never be allowed back in the industry again..!!!

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348 comments:

  1. Just cancel the show , everyone is a mess , from the judges to the rappers

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  2. well his name is black nut, what the heck did you expect

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  3. 6. [+71, -5] It's not simply a matter of kicking him off the show, he needs to get mentally checked out and locked up



    This. If there is someone who deserves a witch hunt is this guy.

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  4. Equivalent to 2chan or 4chan I think

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  5. Yeah, what Mino did was scandalous but what Black Nut put in his lyrics were way disturbing.

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  6. *insert I was rooting for you gif*

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  7. Shawol the dinosaurJuly 13, 2015 at 10:42 PM

    Ugh this is becoming one giant fucking mess.

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  8. this shows how messed up he is

    http://omonatheydidnt.livejournal.com/16159983.html

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  9. Please you can't compare black nut to song minho. I'm still shivering from disgust after reading black nut's rap about that classmate

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  10. FINALLY THEY REALIZE THIS FOOL.

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  11. where is the link??

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  12. Waits for translations of his rap

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  13. I agree but drama = money

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  14. Haven't they heard you don't mess with crazy people.

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  15. his lyrics are so horrifying and graphic.... how can someone even write that????? it's so disturbing i can't this whole season is one big mess tbh

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  16. Didn't they realize his stage name has a sexual meaning?

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  17. 1. [+346, -24] Kick him off the show, what's the point of this ilbe bug

    exactly, most of the guys on this show are a mess

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  18. It was great before idols came on tbh

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  19. wait can someone fill me in? what happened?

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  20. Annnnnd watch this get blown over while mino continues to bear the brunt of this messed up show. pft.

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  21. I don't know if NB is going to put up an article, but in one of Mino's recent articles someone commented the full translation, if that helps lol.

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  22. Korean not ready for this kind of show. Too many blow up and media play.

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  23. this show is a mess from the start anyway. take the show off!

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  24. this is not gotten big because mino is an idol that has a huge impact on public... whereas blacknut is an underground rapper that no one put interest on (at least before SMTM)

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  25. If Mino's lyrics makes me feel disappointed, Black Nut makes me feel disgusted.

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  26. Blacknut went overboard. his lyrics was worse.

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  27. https://lyricalmovement.wordpress.com/2015/07/09/black-nut-mc%EA%B8%B0%ED%98%95%EC%95%84-%EC%A1%B8%EC%97%85%EC%95%A8%EB%B2%94-graduation-album/

    here you go

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  28. We need a new unpretty rapstar

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  29. I hate this show. Everyone acts like dissing is the only way to rap. Its filled with rude people, and gross people. This show should be canceled

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  30. YG idols didn't ruin this show.

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  31. Wasn't SMTM4 filmed ahead? Does anybody know how many episodes they have filmed? Let's say even if Mino, Black Nut or just anyone 'problematic' get removed... they already filmed it?

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  32. that's a bad comparison lmao

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  33. Wow. I had high expectation for this season, but everything is now a mess.

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  34. i think it's very transparent and odd because that mino controvesy from an sk perspective seems more like putting down the occupation than women.

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  35. this guy is fucking scary

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  36. Don't feed the trolls in the comments

    Don't feed the trolls in the comments

    Don't feed the trolls in the comments

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  37. OMG YES!!! they are more fun tbh x"D who is the next jessi?

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  38. idols didn't ruin anything (except Mino)

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  39. Did I say anything about YG? There was drama with idol rappers from other companies as well

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  40. the difference of the upvotes with mino's article though.

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  41. 1. [+346, -24] Kick him off the show, what's the point of this ilbe bug

    at least Minho is handsome

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  42. lol at everyone saying this show should be cancelled as if they're being forced to watch it. Don't like show? Guess what you have the free will not to fucking watch. Don't ruin it for the people that enjoy the show and have been watching since the beginning.

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  43. Yesss one with LE lol she deserves to get big!

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  44. Yeah Minho is handsome but Mino isn't LOL

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  45. I thought they had a new line up? When will it come on?

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  46. idols ain't even the problem lol

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  47. idols were even in season 2 though

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  48. It's a shame how his attractive self wrote such horrid lyrics. But the best thing to do is ignore rappers like him. Any attention, whether bad or good, makes them more known. Which is their goal.

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  49. TheMerryGoRoundOfLifeJuly 13, 2015 at 10:48 PM

    The 'rappers' on smtm do not seem genuine about rap and appear to be very ignorant of rap culture and its origins. They look like they are playing dress up. Everything from their stage personas to their outfits seems manufactured.

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  50. but of course, he's not an idol so he'll get less hate.

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  51. Finally knetz saw the light. Blacknut is no way a normal person, the lyrics he wrote are beyond disgusting. He needs some help. And I'm not shielding Mino because he did wrong but he apologized and that's more than those others rappers have done.

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  52. https://lyricalmovement.wordpress.com/2015/07/09/black-nut-mc%EA%B8%B0%ED%98%95%EC%95%84-%EC%A1%B8%EC%97%85%EC%95%A8%EB%B2%94-graduation-album/

    here are the lyrics if you're interested

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  53. Taking about Yoo maeri in a sexual way. I like show me the money because it allows people to say what they want, what other people are thinking but won't say

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  54. With a female judge as well.

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  55. I need a new Jimin aka a new drama queen.

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  56. Yeah they all wear snapbacks and chains they look try-hard. all they do is diss each other and make gross raps.

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  57. what are his lyrics, I can't see them. But definitely nobody should put down yoon mi rae cause she is queen

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  58. I still don't understand why Jay Park is there. He is the biggest tryhard on that show, can't take the judges seriously because of him.

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  59. Underground hiphop is not for mainstream to understand.

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  60. So many people who don't even watch the show want to come with their irrelevant opinions

    There's so many genuinely good rappers who rap for their kids, families, about their struggles etc. but a few bad apples and the show should be "cancelled"

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  61. A sight that has a reputation for doing really shitty things and showing disgusting behavior. They're very weird and outspoken in the wrong way.

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  62. only watching for the entertaining part but the rap....

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  63. Its like they are stuck in the 80's, 90's, and early 2000's with the fashion that they wear.

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  64. Honestly, you don't even want to know his lyrics because they are soo disturbing like he really does need some help....

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  65. This helped. Turns out its a far more serious issue than I orignially thought https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilbe_Storehouse

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  66. What did he said about Yoon Mirae?

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  67. ikr. they have the fckn choice if they dont want to watch it

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  68. Culture appropriation at its best.

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  69. Well, as I've said elsewhere When I think about this Blacknut “scandal” going on here, I’m sort of in the middle. Blacknut could very well be a psycho, but I also don’t see it as that right off the bat. A good part of me feels like he was telling a story, not necessarily about himself (because just because something is written in first person doesn’t mean it’s a reflection). I think it’s just a story that was meant to grab attention and instill a reaction, like so many people have already had. I’ve heard that he’s even mentioned himself that some of his darker works were done when he was barely known and to get him attention, like this one, and that he’s not too proud of his past works like these.

    When I think of it, it reminds me a lot of when Eminem went through his serial killer phase w/ 3 am. 3am was a wild song (and one of my favorites). Even the MV was dark, but we all know Eminem is not crazy, and he doesn’t want to become some serial killer. It was a story done to get a reaction and that’s exactly what it did. It’s just like gruesome horror movies that people time and time again go to see, or like the girl who wrote that poem about killing her mother and eating her. There’s a level of poetics and artistry involved that gets the reader to have a reaction and start thinking about things like the darker sides of reality (where things like this do happen) and gain attention. Now do I agree with the lyrics and how Blacknut went about his attention escapades?, not necessarily, but I don’t see him as this utter raging psycho that needs to be locked up… Still, knowing about this made me feel a lil weird when he teamed up with the girl in ep 3 of smtm4.

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  70. theres nothing wrong with idols joining the show though? lmao

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  71. $100 Tasha would whoop his ass

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  72. So many people who don't even watch the show want to come with their irrelevant opinions

    There's so many genuinely good rappers who rap for their kids, families, about their struggles etc. but a few bad apples and the show should be "cancelled" smh

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  73. https://lyricalmovement.wordpress.com/2015/07/09/black-nut-mc%EA%B8%B0%ED%98%95%EC%95%84-%EC%A1%B8%EC%97%85%EC%95%A8%EB%B2%94-graduation-album/

    the lyrics are fcked up
    his mind is fcked up to write those lyrics

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  74. Thank you! Wow that was disturbing

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  75. where's he link to his trashy music?

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  76. To anyone who hasn't read his disgusting,shameless,rape and violent promoting lyrics, here you go. I hope you're prepared for what you're about to read. https://lyricalmovement.wordpress.com/2015/07/09/black-nut-mc%EA%B8%B0%ED%98%95%EC%95%84-%EC%A1%B8%EC%97%85%EC%95%A8%EB%B2%94-graduation-album/#more-636

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  77. Jessi should've been a judge
    "You think your funny?"

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  78. I glad I don't watch that show.
    Bring unpretty rap star back on air.

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  79. (´・Ο‰・`)July 13, 2015 at 10:52 PM

    Ummmm perhaps he should see a therapist?

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  80. this is what happens when idols and hip hop itself become mainstream. u get a bunch of "in it cuz its popular" viewers and they dont have any real understanding. it should just go back to being a niche market. korea as a whole aint ready.

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  81. I asked the same question and someone linked me to it. Instant regret.

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  82. I miss swings and 1LLionaire so much😭😭
    The show is a mess.
    The constants are a mess.
    The judges are a mess
    Literally the only thing in the show is Verbal jint.

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  83. Meh. It's just storytelling, not like the dude actually killed people and did all that. By that logic writers who have criminal characters or plots would be actual serial killers in real life or something. It's uncomfortable how he writes about people like Hyorin and Yoon Mirae though, that's the real issue I have with him.

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  84. Oh so you've realized? They've got it straight from the line Culture Appropriation Fest s/s 16. πŸ˜„

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  85. The show is a mess to begin with... I'm not surprised all these issues coming up...

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  86. [+68, -8] Take the show off air

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  87. he's truly sick tbh. who tf wrote a lyrics about killing his own friends?!

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  88. https://lyricalmovement.wordpress.com/2015/07/09/black-nut-mc%EA%B8%B0%ED%98%95%EC%95%84-%EC%A1%B8%EC%97%85%EC%95%A8%EB%B2%94-graduation-album/

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  89. im a fan not a stanJuly 13, 2015 at 10:55 PM

    Korea is just not ready for a show like this. Honestly I dont think they ever will be \.

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  90. I don't know why but judging from his photo and the current scandal that's surrounding him, he looks like one of those creepy, loner guys who sits in the back of the classroom and always says inappropriate shit that makes the other classmates feel uncomfortable.

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  91. this season is a mess

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  92. lol smtm has followed wgm netizen reaction

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  93. But Black Nut is under Swings' label..

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  94. https://lyricalmovement.wordpress.com/2015/07/09/black-nut-mc%EA%B8%B0%ED%98%95%EC%95%84-%EC%A1%B8%EC%97%85%EC%95%A8%EB%B2%94-graduation-album/

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  95. All the dreads, braids, grillz, big chains, baggy ass pants, tall tee's, and the kid n play hairstyles made me want to puke! I swear one dude had a Boosie fade!

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  96. What are the lyrics?

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  97. Yeah, this fool is crazy. I don't know why they allowed his performance to broadcasted; however regarding Minho, I was a bit dissapointed him, but my question to viewers is that if every so called "rapper"on this show spews something offensive on this show, are we going to run to a corner and cry about it everytime it happens? I'm not saying that rap is supposed be a certain way, but it is but some aspects of it are well known to have explicit content. If it's causing this much of a disturbance to us viewers, then yes it might as well be taken off the air.

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  98. show me the MESS, everyone in dis show is insane and disgusting

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  99. Wow are you guys all kids or something? It's just storytelling. Some artists have dark, gory works - from paintings to writing to music. Doesn't mean they're murderers trying to kill people. I mean, dislike his lyrics or his personality and that's alright, but labeling him as someone who needs mental help off some gory lyrics is just weird.

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  100. While his Graduation Album lyrics are disturbing, I think people who are making the conclusion that he is now a psychopath and needs to be institutionalized are overreacting. So far, there haven't been any rape allegations made against him nor has a body been found in his backyard.

    That's not to say he doesn't deserve to be criticized because honestly, if you're gonna write about sensitive topics like rape, then you should have balls to take the backlash.

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  101. Well that's what happens when what they look for in KHH is shock value and who imitates American rappers the best, regardless of what they're imitating. Disgusting. I'm disappointed in Black Nut and even more disappointed he hasn't said a damn thing about it.

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  102. It's probably because he's made a name for himself and a known company in the industry. It's facts that Jay Park isn't this amazing fire spitting rapper, but from a business and CEO standpoint he's done pretty damn well.

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  103. Even if they already filmed it they will just edit them out. That's what they always do on Korean variety shows.

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  104. I actually like the show, there is so much drama and I love it.

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  105. His lyrics are really effed up...
    it was already disturbing reading his lyric for "Beenzino"...creepy zino obsession...

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  106. What are his lyrics??

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  107. Blacknut could be a phsyco but I honestly see it as just story telling... This doesn't mean I'm all for the lyrics, and knowing this made me slightly uncomfortable with his partner on ep 3, but I'm not seeing him as this rapist/killer right off the bat...

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  108. Some people praising him for being a good rapper at first. But I was so shocked when i find out his translate lyrics.You right. Song Minho more like disappointing. But Black Nut he has a bigger issue about his lyric

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  109. I see where you're coming from. A side of me is like "Yeah, if we lock him up, then we have to lock up all the writers of horror movies and fictional crime thrillers, etc." Someone had to come up with the plot line of those movies and books but it doesn't necessarily make them crazy.

    And the other side of me is thinking that Black Nut's lyrics translation was really scary to read, if someone were standing next to me reciting those lyrics I would probably run very fast...

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  110. thats why the "khiphop" scene is corny. all these rappers go "im so tough swag swag" with their bandanas and braids but then they still have to bend over cuz of senority and apologize for lyrics. they arent as tough as they think they are. korea isnt meant for hip hop. they need to stick to those ballads.

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  111. Why are idols even on these typr of shows if they are technically already famous?

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  112. And...?

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  113. before: Show Me The Money
    now: Show Me the Hate

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  114. They need to rap about rainbow, unicorn, and everything nice. Knetizens will probably like it.

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  115. What are you talking about. Black Nut was recruited by Swings and is the deputy CEO of JM while Swings is in the army, they're bros. Verbal Jint ALSO rapped about rape.

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  116. Ratings is the simple answer

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  117. He might be successful but he can't rap. Like at all.
    Can you imagine Kwanghee as a judge on The Voice of Korea? Lmao! That's how I feel when I see Jay Park on that show. Can't take him seriously.

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  118. Jeonbuk Hyundai MotorsJuly 13, 2015 at 11:02 PM

    Korean Hip Hop will never go far

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  119. dok2 is the biggest mess of em all.

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  120. His lyrics are about raping a classmate and killing her boyfriend and then talking about Yoon Mirae in all sorts of horrifyingly sexual ways...


    Wtf I like his rap but it's actually really disgusting talking abt rape

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  121. What made me uncomfortable about how he dealt with his partner was when he said (based on translations) that she was flirting with other dudes when she was talking to other people. He was acting as if he was entitled to her attention at all times because he called her pretty and I was like: ????

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  122. Thank you for articulating my feelings. I'm not going to try to defend the lyrics of the song because they're fucked up. But I do agree that he wrote it to get a reaction. I've also been told that he greatly regrets this song and that past (he was under a different stage name at that point), which doesn't make it better but shows that he's trying to grow form that.


    He's still creepy. A crazy talented rapper, but creepy.

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  123. Im glad im not watching this show. so many controversies.

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  124. Hey ,at least he's better then young thug.

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  125. Yea, as I've mentioned. Jay isn't some rapping monster but he must know a little something if his company and his label mates that work in the khh

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  126. What if the already becomes a winner??

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  127. 7. [+72, -8] His lyrics are about raping a classmate and killing her boyfriend and then talking about Yoon Mirae in all sorts of horrifyingly sexual ways... Song Minho didn't do anything right but he's worse than Song Minho

    Wow... Wow.
    What his rap some "imagination" in his head or actual confessions?!
    O~O

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  128. TheMerryGoRoundOfLifeJuly 13, 2015 at 11:04 PM

    What makes you think the realization has just hit me. I've been having similar sentiments about Korean 'rappers' for years now.

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  129. I swear, Blacknuts lyrics reminded me of the old Kendrick Lamar

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  130. he didnt actually kill her boyfriend or anything but his lyrics are disturbing. some people say its "storytelling" but idk

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  131. Exactly, same here. He was like one of those dudes you avoid at a party

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  132. did you even watch the show lol

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  133. 수호의 마음July 13, 2015 at 11:05 PM

    This here explains Ilbe very well I think.
    http://www.koreabang.com/2012/features/netizen-explains-roots-of-korean-conservative-online-community.html
    His posted his lyrics on a site with a community as disgusting as this,

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  134. Pretty tame comments compared to Mino, but Mino got the bigger heat when Black Nut was WORSE.

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  135. That calls for worries tho

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  136. When I don't like a show, I -don't watch it-. I don't demand for it to be cancelled.

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  137. Why people ask to take down SMTM.. SMTM can bring fame for underground rapper that want to be shine!! If you want to watch rainbow and butterfly, just watch Disney channel then...

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  138. she wasnt a drama queen

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  139. Everyone here talking about these dirty rappers who diss each other while I'm just eating popcorn with my beloved Beenzino.

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  140. I found it completely messed up that they didn't have any female judge

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  141. Agreed I think. Black Nut admittedly wrote a lot of his stuff bc he thought it was cool to emulate this kind of stuff. But that doesn't make it okay. It means he probably isn't a nutbag criminal, but it means he thinks it's more important to feel cool and ~swag~ than not perpetuate rape culture and respect women. It's sickening.


    Even if you don't think he's a rapist you still can't help but feel uncomfortable with the amount of people you "don't think" are something, but end up being something.

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  142. Wait where are the lyrics? O-O what'd he say yall?

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  143. I dont watch it. I always see this show every where I go on social media, and if its this controversial it should be taken down.

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  144. San E was so annoying

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  145. He wants a sensation. For a fame reason. Lol.
    Ilbe bug, mental issues, insane, bigger problem, what a cute names.

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  146. there is no link in this post, can someone repost the lyrics? thanks

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  147. How are calling for him to be kicked off the show and the show to be shut down "tame" in comparison for asking Mino to apologize and think of his mother

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  148. Omg, but he pulled that "where's my hug" crap at the end and she was like, "chill" and fist bumps him instead.

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  149. Umm okay.

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  150. And thank God I do not watch his performance.

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  151. why ppl making it a big deal if these fans actually knew about hiphop they should know lyrics like those are all around the world and very common in america and the underground hiphop scene

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  152. Find me 5-7 female judges who are even worth being called "judges". There's not many...

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  153. Alright.

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  154. Have you heard of this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hcX42T7JcY I don't know what to think about it.

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  155. Well Simon cowell judges xfactor.......so

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  156. Future: show me the rape. By Black Nut.

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  157. rick ross,eminem,tyga,tyler the creator,notourius b.i.g,Dmx,gucci mane have all rapped about rape and murder, heck even snoop dogg was put on trial for murder by connection. but people still listen to them, the same goes for blacknut people are still going to listen to him

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  158. https://lyricalmovement.wordpress.com/2015/07/09/black-nut-mcκΈ°ν˜•μ•„-쑸업앨범-graduation-album/

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  159. ikr even tho ppl saying that 'there's no way black nut will killed the bf' but still the lyrics are beyond scary and disgusting. To make it worse it's a whole song, meanwhile mino only a sentence and got hate like there's no tomorrow..

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  160. YES! it was like some horrible awkward flashback. Sorta felt her pain. It was like "Calm down bro, keep your distance"

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  161. Why is everyone always pushing LE didn't she totally bomb on SMTM? I don't dislike her and I acknowledge her skills but........

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  162. https://lyricalmovement.wordpress.com/2015/07/09/black-nut-mcκΈ°ν˜•μ•„-쑸업앨범-graduation-album

    This

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  163. Oh didn't think about it.
    Hmm...I think they would cancel it then.

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  164. I'm not a big fan of hip hop, can you enlighten me about this culture appropriation thing? I don't understand, i think it's just a style, why does it counts as a cultural appropriation?

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  165. Eventho it's a story telling, don't you feel disturbed or disgusted or something after reading the lyrics?

    I got goosebumps and just go 'eww' after i finished reading it

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  166. Hahaha I know right. Same with WGM. I still dont understand why people are so pressed. Its not like the producers are blackmailing them to watch their show.

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  167. Ew. Your bring back memories. I hate those type of guys.

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  168. I DREAM IS NICKI MINAJ AS A JUDGE! Even if she doesn't speak Korean, she can just smile and nod like Snoop. I don't think Mnet has 250k tho...

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  169. that doesn't make it okay

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  170. Sweetheart, he was called a druggie, told to die, a misogynist, a low-life, etc. They're going to SUE Mino. I stand by what I said. Calling Black Nut a psycho really seems tame in comparison.

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  171. This show is a mess.

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  172. If they really want to go at it, they might as well get rid of all of them, cause pretty much all of them on that show have lyrics that are offensive to some degree lol.

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  173. it haunts me and gives me chills

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  174. He seems quite a nice person? Just a bit tryhardish like The others.

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  175. You are missing and wanting people who cosign this stuff lol

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  176. I'm just appalled. I was disgusted by the lyrics and now I find out he's said some stuff about Yoon Mirae?

    Speaking of her, what has he said? Supposedly he's said some stuff about Hyorin, too.

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  177. Bald Mr.WorldwideJuly 13, 2015 at 11:17 PM

    I believe that there is also a difference between saying those words on a broadcast and saying them in your own mixtape/album. Mino's getting more attention because a lot of viewers heard his lyrics on the TV and it just happened few days ago while in the case of Blacknut, not a lot of people go to dig up his old songs bc it wasnt made into the headline from the broadcast initially. It was only talked on community site or Pann at first.

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  178. his bashing articles got 21k+ upvotes last time i checked so yeah I agree with Nova_remix sentiment. Though you all over bashing Mino so I expect to see you grooting comments like this.

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  179. Yoon Mi Rae, Miryo, Gilme, Cheetah, Lexy, etc

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  180. he is a psycho and a hypocrite if I must say. Just done reading the lyric of the rap he made, it's a mess. I get chills right after done reading it. he's crazy, he once made a rap about beenzino. how he envied beenzino, like beenzino's private parts, beenzino's shit, beenzino's organs, etc. it's disgusting.

    here's the lyrics about the rape thing btw.
    https://lyricalmovement.wordpr...

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  181. meh that person is on the Mino bashing train so yeah lol

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  182. With the khh scene it's a lot of cultural appropriation with antiblack sentiments, which is really ironic. So for example people like Bang Yongguk or Rap Monster will claim to have great appreciation for hip hop (which could be true!) but they'll appropriate dreads or afros, throw around racial slurs, "talk ghetto" etc... I think a lot of people recently got a little upset because Rap Monster made some pretty colorist statements about his group members

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  183. look up his graduation album lyrics! *shudder* https://lyricalmovement.wordpress.com/2015/07/09/black-nut-mc%EA%B8%B0%ED%98%95%EC%95%84-%EC%A1%B8%EC%97%85%EC%95%A8%EB%B2%94-graduation-album/

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  184. There will never be another Jessi.

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  185. You cant see it unless you click on the video and press play. And you cant read an article unless you clicl on it and scroll down. So all this while it was you, your own free will who let this show feed your brain. So only you can change this. Start from today. Dont click any article. Dont watch any video. Then you are safe and immune.

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  186. With her, I can't forget when she said the n-word on Gurupop and she giggled, like I can't shake that from my image of her whenever I see her name.

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