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Friday, June 19, 2015

Stars and their reasons for forgoing college


Article: The reason Suzy gave up college?... 7 stars and their reasons

Source:
Herald Econ via Nate

BoA: "I didn't need college to sing"

IU: "I always considered the senior year of high school as the last year of schooling of my life."

Park Jibin: "My irregular schedules would be an inconvenience for both myself and my classmates"

Taeyeon: "I wanted to go but I purposely didn't because of promotions. There are a lot of people who merely have their names on the roster but never go."

Rap Monster: Despite being in the top 1% in his PSAT and having an IQ of 148, "Music was more important to me"

Suzy: "Why do I need to go to college if I know that I won't be able to attend regularly?"

Yoo Seung Ho: "I didn't want to take away the opportunities of others"

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1. [+639, -16] For someone who started the industry as a child, you'd think Yoo Seung Ho would get all arrogant but he's such a deep thinker. Grew up so well~~

2. [+578, -24] 99% of the reason male idols go to college and grad school is to postpone their service... Just look at Lee Seung Gi with his master's degree... makes Yoo Seung Ho amazing.

3. [+329, -21] Amazing of them~~

4. [+60, -26] I don't think Suzy's smart enough to even go to college

5. [+53, -23] I understand the other kids but isn't Suzy a different case? You look at some of the answers she gives on quizzes and I don't think she could've even graduated ㅋㅋㅋ

6. [+40, -6] These stars have already made more money before college than people make after college... their reasons don't matter to us commoners ㅋㅋ

7. [+35, -4] These stars already have huge money making careers, they have no reason to go to college... It's always the not-really-popular idols who try to use their popularity and get special treatment to get into colleges since they know their careers will be super unstable once they hit their twenties.

8. [+34, -3] I attended Dongguk University and I remember Lee Seung Gi barely ever coming for his grad school. I think I saw him like three times in a year!

9. [+30, -7] Most of the kids up there were college ready age at the peak of their careers when probably every college was offering them admissions but they didn't go which I find amazing.

10. [+27, -5] BoA's is honestly the only realistic answer... you don't need college for a singing career.

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477 comments:

  1. Em contra partida, Soohyun, Xander and AJ.... <3

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  2. about 95% of Korean students go to college, whether the institution is prestigeous or crappy. I really don't think most idols wouldn't have any problem getting into some college if it weren't for their idol training schedule.

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  3. Taeyeon: "There are a lot of people who merely have their names on the roster but never go."

    Kind of awkward when that can be said by a few people in her group.

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  4. honestly college is not highschool where you can take off days or home school. these celebs are actually doing themselves a favor.

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  5. Honestly, the most successful people are not necessarily the smartest in school, if they even attended school. Success is about finding what you love to do. The money you earn is just a bonus.

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  6. I get what netz mean by not wanting to take anyone's place and I fully respect but there's nothing wrong with wanting to get an education even if you are celeb. Side-eyeing the celebs who don't show up tho but still get an degree. I believe Park Shin Hye got a degree but it took her a couple of years b/c she took of semesters when she was working which is respectful to the students who work hard and show up everyday.

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  7. 4. [+60, -26] I don't think Suzy's smart enough to even go to college

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  8. But they are richer than most who went to college

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  9. Korea is so obsessed with education stats.

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  10. Or maybe celebs who go to college have their own reasons too; in case their singing career isn't working out or sumthing coz not everybody can be successful in entertainment industry right? Cuz it takes passions+talents+luck

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  11. Yoo Seung Ho's answer is ♥

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  12. Really? My university doesn't care if you don't show up to lectures. Labs are another story but they don't give a fuck about attendance

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  13. Suzy may be an airhead but look at where the money she is making is usually going to now. Charities! Back to society!

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  14. college is not the only "school" in life, specially when you are an artist or when you really know the path you wanna follow.

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  15. Yes, I understand this point. But do you think they will be artists forever.


    The answer is no. Like Jessica, she find new career and very success.

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  16. i definitely don't understand why the singers enroll just to not attend... like if you want a backup plan or if you're just interested in college, you should be able to go like everyone else! but if you go to like 2 classes a year & end up with a degree... what did you learn in the end?

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  17. yup agreed.
    there are for some reason schools in korea/taiwan that allow celebs to get certs without even attending.
    its a shame cos there are those who really do try, and yet people lump them all together when you talk about who graduated. like snsd had a couple of members that diligently attended school despite their schedules.
    as did lee seunggi. i think he got a masters in econs? from one of korea's better schools too.

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  18. College isn't for everyone.

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  19. i keep seeing the suzy references but i am lost? what exactly happened?

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  20. 4. [+60, -26] I don't think Suzy's smart enough to even go to college

    Wtf? Im even not smart enough to go to college but i still passed every subj in college. You dont have to be smart to go to college. It's all about skill and working hard

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  21. 4. [+60, -26] I don't think Suzy's smart enough to even go to college



    Is college only for smart people??

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  22. Attendance isn't obligatory so if they pass all of the exams they can get the degree.

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  23. there are loads of people who are neither highly educated nor celebrities and not earning alot either.

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  24. Suzy may be an airhead but look at where the money she is making is usually going to now. Charities! Back to society! Shows that education may not be the sole option to be beneficial to the society :-)

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  25. Yoo Seungho is a good kid.


    And I do like the others' answers, too. Particularly the ones where they point out that going to school would only be for show- they wouldn't really be able to attend classes often.


    Man, people are really on Lee Seunggi's gullet lately. Has anyone else noticed?

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  26. Yeah, I was going to ask. Didn't everyone else in her group, but her, go to university? Is she seriously ripping them?

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  27. Yoo Seung Ho: "I didn't want to take away the opportunities of others"

    So agree with YSH's reason, mostly people going to college for their tittle. After they get the tittle, they can easily get job. Celebs is already making money without any tittle, so having tittle is unnecessary for them. Nice~~~

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  28. I'm pretty sure Yuri and Seohyun tried the hardest to attend classes. Yoona too? I'm not sure about Sooyoung.

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  29. I believe Yuri, Sooyoung, Yoona, and Seohyun are the only ones who chose to college. Yuri and Sooyoung have yet to get their degree even though they enrolled back in '10 so they may not go but it's not like they are just getting credit unlike some celebs. Both Yoona and Seohyun graduated on time this year but they went (although def not a lot) and did online schooling. Plus none of them are enrolled in difficult majors.

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  30. she is not good at studying doesn't mean she is stupid.

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  31. of course she is.

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  32. They can do anything they wanna do, both who attend college or not. There's nothing wrong about going to college anyway.You can even know more things, so why not?

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  33. If they don't feel college is for them, it's perfectly fine to choose not to go

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  34. I think it's only Yoona, Seohyun, Sooyoung and Yuri, isn't it?


    Seohyun supposedly attended a lot of classes for a celebrity. And Yoona stated she wanted to go more, but whenever she showed up for class, it ended up turning into an impromptu fansigning, and she felt like she was being disruptive. I imagine it's the same for some of the others, too.

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  35. Well it's not obligatory. The main people go to college is to cultivate skills for a career, and if they have a stable career, what's the point? It's not like they can't go after their game dies down if they want to either. It's really just logical lol.

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  36. Everyone have a opportunity to go to college .. if celebrities wants to go to college and they have ability to study, why not? Ariel Lin(Taiwanese actress) did her post-secondary education and job tgt and she even study a master degree a few years ago. An celebrity can go to college too. I know some of them just take other ppl space and don't attend at all, but it doesn't mean all idols shouldn't go to college..

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  37. Yea. Business smarts or street smarts is just as important as intellectual smarts.

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  38. But Sooyoung works got praised a lot by her prof. She has the best writing skills in SNSD. I dont remember others getting praised tho.

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  39. I think she was on a gameshow or quiz show of sorts and she gave some questionable answers. Plus she got criticized for her award speech for being kinda airhead like (although I think it was just nerves).

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  40. Some celebrities also attend online classes instead of attending in person.

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  41. Sunny, Hyoyeon, Tiffany and Jessica?

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  42. I swear I've seen at least 5 other articles about why celebs don't attend college lol......

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  43. +100, i just read some news about a guy who didn't attend college and he did what he wanted to do (something like robot-helicopters or whatever their name is lol) and he is now super rich and has his own company SLAY, i wish i could do what i love and at the same time earn enough money, but i'm not even sure what i freaking want to do... :/

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  44. TBH she did sound a little spacey, but some of the smartest people I know are space cadets who are terrible at public speaking.


    Who knows what goes on in her head? She's still making more money than I can comprehend making in my life.

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  45. if they cant afford to come to class regularly due to trainings and promotions there are online programs offered.

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  46. Yeah, they've been pressing him quite alot recently... The fact that he isn't enlisting anytime soon has been annoying quite a lot of them.

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  47. I read some do online classes and other courses don't require regular attendance, you just have to turn in your work and pass your exams. Some celebs take time off to go to school & experience student life (Go Ara for example), but others just don't have the time to do that yet they still want to finish.

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  48. I noticed it too...his image is so clean they can only go after his prolonged military service

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  49. She did? That's great. Thanks for correcting me! I think people forget University is less about attending but doing the work. Attending is an advantage.

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  50. He's probably going this year, though, isn't he?

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  51. He's too good for this world, too pure.

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  52. In Korea? While promoting with maybe 3-4 hours of sleep tops?

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  53. Again with the Taeyeon name-dropping. Your info isn't even accurate cuz those SNSD members have been praised by their professors ON Tv. Sooyoung and Yuri even have their profs' numbers.

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  54. If I remember right she said that before Yoona and Seohyun were admitted (Yuri went back later?).

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  55. They didn't go to college only the 4 youngest did.

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  56. He is enlisting soon. By the end of the year I think actually. This album is supposed to be his last for now. People just want to nag lol.

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  57. talented stars like BoA or Yoo Seung Ho do not need college since they can survive long with their talent. Suzy is another story (oh, she can just live off her face since pretty is considered a talent in Korea)

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  58. College is not for everyone, but happiness is.

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  59. Thanking her dog isn't really stupid lol.

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  60. 8. [+34, -3] I attended Dongguk University and I remember Lee Seung Gi barely ever coming for his grad school. I think I saw him like three times in a year!



    really i thought he had the good student image
    some grad programmes just don't require you to attend that often? don't you just do research on your own?

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  61. Rap Monster: Despite being in the top 1% in his PSAT and having an IQ of 148


    Having a high IQ doesn't even guarantee you will do well in school. I was in Mensa, took advanced classes in high school, and still had a hard time in some university classes, and watched the kids that were in advanced classes with me struggle. It has to do with the ability to focus for long periods, and time management, and other things not necessarily related to pure IQ.

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  62. Those in her group who went to school chose to go & attended as much as they could. I've never read anything bad about any of them or their attendance.

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  63. No taeyeon said that on her radio in 2008 and sooyoung and yuri entered collegein 2010. How she knew 1 year later her members go to college?

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  64. Yes, also SooRi are shooting their graduation photos recently so I believe they're graduating soon too. It has been mentioned before that Sooyoung has taken at least one semester of leave to focus on promotions. It's realistic to expect other members to have done so similarly too.

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  65. ugh i wish your university is like mine. attendance is a must except when the prof is lazy for it.

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  66. I think Sooyoung & Yuri are finally graduating soon, they were spotted taking graduation pictures.

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  67. I read the title as "reasons for going to college" and was so confused while reading the article. I think they should definitely go to college because that is the place where you discover what you really want to spend the rest of your life doing. You might think you want to be a singer, but you could take an elective like cooking and realize that cooking makes you happier than singing.

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  68. That's always the problem.. :(when we are not sure what we want to do... :( i feel you....

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  69. OP probably didn't know she said that before Yoona and Seohyun were admitted/Yuri and Sooyoung decided to return to school, I'd leave them alone.

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  70. College is a giant waste of money for almost everyone unless you want to learn you enjoy being drunk. You do. I just saved you money. Learn a trade

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  71. Didn't Seohyun also take a semester off due to promotions? I think it shows that they didn't take school for granted and took time off when they knew they couldnt focus.

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  72. ▷ KrisJiminnieJune 19, 2015 at 3:20 AM

    BoA unnie answer the question like a boss XD i know namjoon love music more than studies ... but can you please give me your sexy brain ? i need it

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  73. i would thank my cat
    he's my best friend

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  74. Yes, you're correct, Sooyoung' writing has been praised by a professor.

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  75. My Korean isn't what it used to be but even I can tell her writing is very good. She really has a way with words.

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  76. Lee Minho thanked his dog Choco in Daesung just recently and it wasn't even highlighted or made a fuss about.

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  77. Only Yuri, Sooyoung, Yoona and Seohyun went to university. The others didn't. For example, Sunny stated that continuing her studies is something she's considering after SNSD. YoonHyun has graduated, and SooRi are graduating. I'm sure they've trouble getting full attendance, but I doubt they would go to the extreme of being a ghost student or something. Some of them have taken semester leave from university when the promotions are too heavy. Their professors have praised their work before, so I would say that they are at least deserving of their degrees.

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  78. Yeah only the younger members attended school.
    Seohyun went the most & took time off when she couldn't attend more like she wanted. I think Sooyoung also took a semester off to focus on promotions.
    I can believe that about Yoona, there were always fan pics of her during presentations or something and people crowded around her desk. It must suck to really want to be a regular student, but unable to be due to your fame.

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  79. And the members always depend on Sooyoung to make the award speech :)

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  80. Yup. Plus professors aren't afraid to scold celebs and there are student accounts online that talk about celebs and how they do/act. I remember Taecyeon got blasted by his professor for only showing up on test day and the professor was like just stand there and let them take pics of you lmao.

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  81. Well, I could have gotten the name wrong, but yes there had been semester leave taken during promotions. It was mentioned before by themselves. Hard working girls, if you considered the leave, that Seohyun managed to graduate on time.

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  82. I wish SM would let her write more :/

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  83. Ofc she's not. I find her a really sweet girl personally. Even my mum feels the same way about her. She says that suzy is a very "hard worker" and that I should learn from suzy because I slack and procrastinate so much LOL

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  84. Park Shin Hye hasnt got her degree yet. Among her classmates (Kim Bum, Kim Soo Hyun, Kim So Eun, Go Ara, Kang Ha Neul), only Go Ara graduated 2 years ago. And it seems that Go Ara did take time off from her activities to finish her university as she did not have any drama for 4 years from 2009 to 2013. In Park Shin Hye's case, i think she takes one semester off each year as she has had drama every single year since 2009.

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  85. Going to college is fine. Not going to college is fine too.

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  86. I like Taeyeon and Yoo Seungho's reason a lot. Off topic but Taeyeon always sounds so mature in her answers i really like that about her.

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  87. In Korea, probably. All Asian education systems focus on book smarts. Even in heavily Westernised places like Singapore? Exams still make up 40-60% of the grade lol

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  88. I remember on a special of the back in 2011 during The Boys promotions & they expressed how sad they were that they were unable to attend class like everyone else.
    Even with all the promotions & taking that leave, I am very surprised Seohyun graduate on time. I can't imagine how much work that took to be sure she finished.

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  89. K-netz thought it was hence why they call her an airhead. I was just answering the question.

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  90. Me too. While the English translation of How Great is Your Love sounds a little awkward it's really, really nice in Korean. I want to hear more of her stuff!

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  91. it is still more flexible than regular school

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  92. I see. I wasn't sure but I knew she always takes off semesters. Thanks for the clarification.

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  93. Ton of popular writers thanking their pets in their books.

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  94. lmao how else should it be? you have to work if you want to get into a good university

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  95. Well to her credit she took an acting major. I'm pretty sure I've seen before somewhere that actual career experience can be converted to credits in Korea, especially for celebrities. So her bit of drama acting and that musical should have been useful for earning credits I guess?

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  96. I have also read about professors and other students who don't hesitate to say a celeb barely attends and when they do it's like a pr stunt. I've never read anything about that about any of the members who went to school. All accts said they tried not to attract too much attention while in class.

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  97. This comment was deleted???????????? why

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  98. there's a part of me that feels bad for him but that photo is so hilarious, he looks so dejected lol

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  99. (........)

    4. [+60, -26] I don't think Suzy's smart enough to even go to college

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  100. Taeyeon done shaded them though. She seems very catty to those closest to her, to be quite honest.

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  101. yeah..her boyfriend, Lee Minho also thanked his dog this year at Baeksang.
    So what, maybe their dogs give comfort for their lives? For some people, dogs are family, no?

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  102. I agree and I also understand that for many college is pretty much just an entrance to a job. This kind of my problem with the education system in general because I myself get good grades but it is attained through my mastering of memorization and not actaul learning. Like you said some stars who actaully attend classes might just have a interest in a certain field so when the k netz complain of how some stars should only go to college if related to entertainment....I can't help but think that many people no longer value education as enrichment and knowledge.

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  103. I guess college education is the part where we get trained for the careers we're about to take. So for celebrities, the "education" they need is provided to them through the lessons they have taken up during their training period and/or the lessons they are constantly being provided by their agencies. Getting a degree would be practical if celebrities have interests other than being celebrities and if they plan to have another career. But if they don't, I believe it would just be a practical decision to drop college. That way, they'd have more time to focus on their chosen craft.

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  104. 12 year olds dont belong hereJune 19, 2015 at 3:29 AM

    This is South Korea though. Where high school students are dismissed in school at 9:00 in the evening. So..

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  105. Some things, I don't think it's feasible to do online. For example, if idols want to take a relevant major, that would be in the arts. Acting, theatre, drama, singing, dance...that's usually what they can take without getting too much flak. Can you really do that online?

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  106. I've never heard that, but I wonder how much credit she'd have considering she just now started acting. She waited a while before she took anything on saying she wasn't ready for roles. Even for Passionate Love, she used her real name and never really mentioned the drama.

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  107. [+60, -26] I don't think Suzy's smart enough to even go to college

    [+53, -23] I understand the other kids but isn't Suzy a different case? You look at some of the answers she gives on quizzes and I don't think she could've even graduated ㅋㅋㅋ

    bet that u're one rude n jealous kid that still struggling in life somwhere there...smh

    she knows that she's not good at studying that's y she didn't do it...but she is definitely not an emptyhead...
    besides, she's only 21 n hv more properties than most graduates.
    can see clearly who is smarter here ? lol

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  108. This comment was deleted????????????


    why????????? what i do

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  109. They don't even go to college and they still have lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$ than us..

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  110. 12 year olds dont belong hereJune 19, 2015 at 3:31 AM

    Gifs are not allowed.

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  111. you're welcome to dislike her (i do too sometimes) but she said that back in 2008 when yoona and seohyun were yet to be admitted and yuri and sooyoung hadn't decided to go back to school yet.

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  112. Taeyeon made that reply in 2008, years before any of her members started university. And to their credit none of them had a ghost attendance. They gave their 100% to attend as much as they can and balance work and study. Her members, who started university after she made the comment, aren't the type that she is shading. The ones who get the shade are the ones who signed up for the placing and don't even bother, depending on company connections to secure that degree and grade.

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  113. Taeyeon's statement is years old, but peacie21's comment never once alluded towards that at all. You're just trying to stir the pot.

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  114. ah, i see. thanks! i was only exclusively thinking of regular enrollments; since the korean comments are almost always chastising them for not attending.

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  115. I gave up 3/4 of the way through the semester two semesters ago. I was too stressed out from having to work 45+ hours a week. I'd have to go to class at 8, get out at 3, go to work at 3:30, get off at 11/12, go home and take a shower, eat, do homework for 3+ hours, sleep 3-4 hours, and rinse and repeat. On my days off work, I honestly would sleep because I was so exhausted. I should've used those days to do homework/work on essays, but I was way too tired. I started to oversleep and missed important days for presentations and speeches that couldn't be made up. It was too late to withdraw from the classes, so I just stopped attending all together because it became a waste of time. Anyway, I know I didn't need to give you a lot of irrelevant information about myself, but the main point I'm trying to get across is that I failed all those classes that semester because I stopped attending. The professors didn't care that I had work. So, it kind of pisses me off that there are people (mostly these celebs) that are able to not show up for a whole semester and still pass those classes.

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  116. Same here. All the members tend to dress simply too and not try to stand out like Seohyun for example:

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  117. yeah that comment doesn't make sense. a lot of people are able to get into college through rote memorization and diligence, neither of which really require much intelligence, just hard work.

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  118. i see~ that's interesting... i don't know how i feel about that lol. i suppose if you do the studying then that's what matters..

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  119. The kind of smarts that knetz are saying Suzy lacks is probably book smarts. Her test scores in school are pretty bad. But can you say she is not qualified to be admitted into a singing or acting major?

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  120. sofro que não pode postar gifs
    eu não sabia estava lavando o cabelo

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  121. You expect to reply to you properly after you just called me a cunt? Wow, disgusting. Have a nice life.

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  122. Nahh you don't understand my point from the start.. and your comment sounds like argumentative or your perspective instead 'informative'... And comparing BB newest song to a song that released in uh 2009 is too much like the situation is definetly different between 'past' and now.. And it's too early to judging BB newest song with that situation..

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  123. we knew whom fans are so vocal these days.

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  124. I really don't know what do you want. Don't take my comment so literally, the whole problem here is ''group that writes their own songs is so much better than the one which doesn't'' opinion.

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  125. the truth hurts.

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  126. Who provoking the fans ? Jessica
    Who made internal fandom war ? Jessica
    Who antagonize her group ? Jessica
    Guilty , without a doubt and we won't even need her reason for doing it
    A robber is still wrong even if his reason is to feed his family

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  127. Less shady ? The girl is so salty until she decide to delete any snsd related things on her weibo , snsd member didn't do the same. And an Individual stan like you is never a sone to begin with

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  128. SmokingweedwithGDJune 19, 2015 at 4:15 AM

    Go read their statement after she posted that.they said it in their official statement.

    Like I have said before. Sm has a record of trashing those who leave them straight to their face. They didn't even try with her because they didn't have anything to use against her.

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  129. she add tons of hate to her ex group , it will surely be written as sins.
    do she even care for her ex group ? the group who made her exist ? the group who made her rich and famous ? you won't even know her if it's not because of snsd.


    do she forgot that the other 8 is also have fans ? do she not realize that her selfish statement can break up the fandom ?
    like i said before, i don't care for her story or her reason for doing it . i just pity that she can't be a little bit professional, grateful , elegant like david beckham

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  130. G.O.D >>> shinhwa in terms of public recognition. You must not know that bang3x is literally played everywhere, even koreans got sick of it.

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  131. Why would everyone hating exo?? they're known for their dance so if they said we're better in dancing so what?? it's the truth lmao. Same with GD.

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  132. I know....its the sad truth for all SM artists actually, since the public only knows the title track, other tracks (which are composed by them) are not having the recognition it deserves...

    Though I'm happy that SHINee has now the power to decide for their albums (View was actually chosen by the members) I hope this would continue...

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  133. lmao suju isnt relevant anymore. EXO is the trend. SHINee is on-the-way to get a total public recognition. JYJ >>> TVXQ in terms of public recognition.

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  134. I think it is kind of funny because knetizens point out that only Jonghyun is writing in SHINee and that's exactly the same in Big Bang. GD is mostly writing. He is a talented composer, but whether he writes a good music or not it's different story. Personally I like quality music that SHINee is doing and not popular music that Big Bang is making. I got really frustrated with Loser honestly because it is almost the same as Monster. Bang Bang Bang is another song written just for using popular elements and We like to party is on One Direction level. The only better one is Bae Bae... He is a talented writer, but why do I feel like Big Bang is doing the same concept and the same music all over again? I am loser, I am monster... God. Stop it and if you want to be an artist try to give massage as well with your music... I don't need to listen how you party all the time and how bad you are to your gielfriends...

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  135. seungri?? do u mean the bigbang's extra member?. lol

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  136. oh my gosh... XDD

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  137. SM is doing really good this year. So if they really focus on SNSD, this comeback will be fine

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  138. What i want has nothing to do with it, i guess being ignorant of bts staff's (like composer, producer, writer, musician etc) hardwork are your thing.

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  139. You sound ignorant. Before criticizing someone you must take a look the problem. I think you didn't see the lyric of loser lol. They're not talking about girlfriend. Btw the girlfriend theme is always used many times by others too lmao.

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  140. you really need to stop posting the exact. same. thing. throughout this whole thread. just read what everyone else is trying to get through to you! omg!

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  141. why are you so aggressive XD
    ppl are different. tomorrow, when I get to work I won't need acknowledgment, just my paycheck. no need to put praise me just bcs I'm doing my job.

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  142. Not? What is it about than? Poppe Seungri, though? I don't think I can be more ignorant than you. However I think you do understand my points what makes me happy... :)

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  143. Clueless journalist. I thought i was reading some pann shit.

    What GD said was spot on. Bb is a group of artist who create their own music. Exo and shinee are groups of pretty boys manufactured to appeal young girls.

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  144. "I don't think he said anything wrong but people needs to stop this "you're a true artist and special if you write and compose" bullshit. Writing and composing was never a requirement for a singer or dancer hence they're two different jobs but those who do both deserves praise. You don't call ballet dancers fake if they don't make their choreography. You don't shit on actors if they don't make their own script. And you don't look down at singers who don't make their music by scratch. These people take what's given to them and interpret it, give it life."

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  145. Deja-Boo was the one by Jonghyun right? Or exo?

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  146. They're idols, music is not all the things. Even if they're not like what they're used to be, but they're still the most popular gg with high public recognition & strong fandom. Why they're called a wall? Because there're no gg can archive what they did archieve, even now, when their popularity drops a lot. Not just gg, their album sell's even higher than boy group?They're the only gg that can compete with other bg. And why buying albums is considered stubborn? We support them, we want to collcer cards so we buy it. What's wrong?
    They're still doing fine, not as much as before, but still much better compare to some group.

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  147. disqus_qnJiwqFrtWJune 19, 2015 at 5:17 AM

    Thank you, I've been saying this all day. People either don't know how to read album credits or just refuse to look at them altogether.

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  148. her show is already aired. and this show will aired after their comeback. I dont think they will make a team-kill

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  149. Even Psy who has written tons of songs praised TOP for writing lyrics saying he himself would've never thought to write it like that

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  150. TVXQ is far from useless, what are you even talking about?


    TVXQ makes 50% of SM's income during a year.


    SJ and EXO are their second biggest earners. SNSD doesn't even come close.

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  151. Because his bias is in OT8. He doesn't care what she does.

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  152. None of what you just said makes sense.

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  153. actually, most of the arguments came from people who loves shinee by mentioning Jonghyun and did not come from EXO-Ls

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  154. Viktoria NovakovaJune 19, 2015 at 5:25 AM

    I can't believe anyone is making this a problem, people seriously have too much free time on their hands. GD said nothing wrong. He was asked a question and replied honestly. BB have been composing their music and writing lyrics since always, everyone knows that, even their solo albums are mainly self-composed. That is the difference between BB and many other groups in kpop. That doesn't mean others are not good or don't deserve their achievements. It's more like GD is not just a good performer but a good musician too because everytime he sings, he says his own words and everytime a new song comes out, he's ready to hear critical words about the creative outcome of his work. Is that an easy thing to do? Can just anyone do that? If other kpop groups, not just the two others mentioned in this interview, have members who can write/compose songs on their own, they should be given more space. I bet their fans would like to get to know their inner world more this way.

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  155. Oh wow. How original. Shinee fan whining while everyone who doesnt give a fuck about kpop agreed with him.

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  156. dudr srsly u r missin the main point -_-

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  157. It's not related to this topic but... I like you user name, Ceaser Clown *wink wink*

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  158. Please read it first then do comments

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  159. Maybe she/he is 10 years old

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  160. your comment is okay until "I am loser, I am monster... God. Stop it and if you want to be an artist try to give a massage as well
    with your music... I don't need to listen how you party all the time and
    how bad you are to your girlfriends" lmao I think you just blindly hating him without any research. He always has a message in every song he make. ex: window >> He feels like a killer in this song so he made an eerie type music. Same with jonghyun and his beautiful lyrics-writing.

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  161. Idk why some fans .....

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  162. The only one who can clarify his intentions is gd. All u do is speculate

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  163. "Most people in the internet always like that. They're nit-picking every
    little thing you said and twist it to their likes to disprove your
    sayings.."

    this should be included in one of the verses in the internet holy book (if there's any)

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  164. He said the truth

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  165. 3. [+423, -49] From someone in a neutral perspective/not a fan of
    EXO/SHINee/Big Bang... I just know that the other two groups aren't as
    responsible for composing as many songs as Big Bang are... it's only
    their fans who know.

    make sense

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  166. i didnt even know minho wrote his rap parts for their songs. i think that's marvelous and what makes a true rapper. this makes me respect him more and make me regret for those dibidibidis jokes i throw about him.

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  167. Seungri was in charge of his own albums. They all have credits go and look

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  168. TOP, Seungri, YB get your facts straight please others might be at jonghyin's level but they do right and compose songs if you want let me give you a list :
    Act like nothing happened (TOP)+BaeBae he writes his own rap parts too which are alot better than gd's in my opinion
    Taeyang :
    Just a Feeling
    Where u at
    Wedding dress
    Take it slow (written and composed)
    Eyes Nose Lips
    Body
    love you to death
    maybe there are more but i can't recall others
    seungri cocomposed his either albums, he even composed a japanese ost.
    Thankyou.

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  169. Jonghyun composed View.

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  170. Or exo can dance better or do better at variety which i would agree or have more vocals idk there are many things exo-l and shawol can be proud about and here they are being bitter over TRUTH.

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  171. How about u post the whole answer and stop taking things out of context

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  172. YG, this is why you should let your artist play w other management's artist.

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  173. I need to look at somethong sweet ! The amount of bitterness here is over 9000!!!!! Damn

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  174. except "dance better" or better vocals is just your subjective opinion so NAH

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  175. not trainees in 2006 around the same time as BB's debut.

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  176. The problem is these stupid ppl including gd don't understand jonghyun didn't start recently composing songs he composed songs since he was in high school he wrote juliette cowrite up and down, romeo...... etc since beginning jonghyun always composed at least two songs in shinee album
    and he he composed all song on his solo album
    I wish just vip admit that gd was arrogant considering not jonghyun sings alot better than all bigbang

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  177. i think some knetz hate bigbang but still prefer bigbang than any idol

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  178. I'm not an exo-l though thats all i know aboit exo xD there is probably more but idk

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  179. It will be esier for u if u dont put words in gds mouth.go and read his statement again

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  180. Of course I am not hating on them - these are things that I just think about their music. Big Bang is not the only group that is self writing. There are many more groups that are trying. They are maybe not as succesfull as GD. You can think of Jonghyun from Beast. To go back to SHINee - Minho is a horible rapper but he writes his raps as well. Taemin is also trying to compose. I think Big Bang is amazing that were able to their own music and I do think unfurtunately that SHINee is more controles in that aspect. But I do find quality of the music important as well and Big Bang has been dissapointing.

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  181. I know GD didnt mean anything bad by it, and that he's a good guy but, maybe its the jackass in me, i cant help but think that just cause you right your own songs doesnt mean they are good lol

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  182. Bald Mr.WorldwideJune 19, 2015 at 6:06 AM

    BigBang name is actually big because their self composed songs during their earlier era was successful. In another word, it's their self composed public friendly songs that make them big in the first place not really the vice versa. They were on big scandals in 2011-2012 but their ALIVE album save them from going further downhill or disband.
    At least it's up until Bang3 come out. Only Bang3 is arguable that it is big because of their current status.

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  183. I LIKE view!! Even i just listen to it for 2 or 3 times. But yeaaa I like it.. The song is soooo fun to hear. Esp Onew part :)


    I little bit angry with SM btw because they did not promote Shinee PROPERLY on this comeback..

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  184. Well that's your opinion though on charts for ex. They're doing well there songs are quality wise amazing ex. Eyes Nose Lips and Crooked were a trend anyone can tell ! Others might not like loser bit to me its a song that i will never forget ot helped me through hard times and i'm sure it helped others too not to say it's realistic lyrics are really appealing. Bang Bang Bang/we like 2 party might not be your cup of tea but the general public is loving those songs so i don't think you should act like your opinion represents others or majority's opinion.

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  185. Because they're shielding gd? Lol Shawols and exo-ls' reactions are to be expected because technically, gd's wrong because some members of shinee and Exo do compose songs too. If he said their repertoire consists more of self-produced songs compared to the other two groups, there'd be no contest on that.

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  186. And Gd said we 're different because we write our own songs meant "we're succesful with our own songs written and composed by us" so i don't see a problem with this you're only blowing it out of proportions aka hating.

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  187. Makes sense , jessica is no longer an idol. She showing after-snsd life.

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  188. Yet snsd member is richer than anyone of them ( except probably choi siwon ) due to their individual activities such as cf , drama , . and so on.
    Album sales and concert mostly goes to sm pocket. Soon tvxq will go to army and becone useless fir at least 2 years.

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  189. disqus_qnJiwqFrtWJune 19, 2015 at 6:16 AM

    Other than "A Gloomy Clock," what else did he compose for her?

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  190. Viktoria NovakovaJune 19, 2015 at 6:18 AM

    Why would he lose musical touch after army service? It's not like no other artist went to the army before, now they're back in their regular life and doing their thing. What a weird remark indeed.

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  191. Gd did not say he is the only one.

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  192. disqus_qnJiwqFrtWJune 19, 2015 at 6:21 AM

    What else has he made for IU other than "A Gloomy Clock?" Genuinely curious.

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  193. Lmao not really. That is if you only count income from music related such as album sales and ticket concert , snsd contract endorsement brings a lot more than those boygroup gave for sm. For example. Hair couture paid sm 2.1 billion won to use snsd as their endorser , that's more money than all exo album sales .
    And you know how many cf , ( group and individual ) snsd has done till today

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  194. You are reaching, hun. First, ALL of BB involved in making music be it composing or writing(these two things are different). Secondly, Loser, Bae Bae, Bang Bang Bang and wl2p each send different message and even musically vary from one another. Thirdly, you clearly don't listen to much of GD's lyrics if you claim he only writes song about how bad he is to his girlfriend or how much he likes to party.

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  195. Lol at suju and tvxq. And still none in that list can touch bbs recognition

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  196. Fransiska GurningJune 19, 2015 at 6:32 AM

    GD just say the truth..why people so hard to accept it..totally agree with all the comments above..

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  197. No, you're wrong, GD is not wrong. This is exactly the case I was talking about in my comment. GD is not wrong because BIGBANG DOES write their own songs. GD would have been wrong if he said, "BIGBANG writes their own songs And EXO and SHINEE don't." Did he say that? No. Furthermore the full response goes something along the lines of how BB writes songs ///that appeal to the public///. Now, have the songs EXO or SHINEE's MEMBERS (another point: members, not the whole group) charted high, or gotten all kills and triple crowns and digital crowns or whatever and the like? No, whereas BB has. It's not a matter of opinion, because this is a fact. This isn't to say BIGBANG is better than those groups, it's just the songs they write are well liked by the public.

    I feel like I'm repeating myself with every response I make to comments like these seriously.

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