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Saturday, May 2, 2015

RANT RANT RANT RANT

Pann: Idol fans must read) K-Pop fans react to Korean netizens

"K-Pop is receiving popularity overseas but the image of Korea among K-Pop fans is gradually worsening. The reason is none other than because of Korean netizen culture (hateful comments, posts, etc).

There is a site named Netizen Buzz that translates in real time Korean news (from Naver, Nate, Daum, etc) and other famous sites (like Instiz, Nate Pann, etc) along with the comments.

So K-Pop fans read comments left by Korean netizens and many are actually disgusted by the attitude of Korean netizens. This is something that affects the image of Korea and I think a lot of people need to know about it so I'll be posting articles from it once a day.

For an extreme example, here are translated comments from an article about Jiyeon having her hair pulled in Vietnam. Tomorrow will be an article about EXO."

(NB: You can read which comments they chose to translate on the source. The gist of this Pann is that Korean netizens are ruining the image of Korea and that they should clean up their act.)

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1. [+50, -6] This is true, Korean netizens always call out idols for making mistakes and saying they're an embarrassment to the country without realizing that what they're doing is embarrassing the country too.

2. [+37, -4] Human beings are the scariest and I think Korean netizens rank at the top of the most cruel. They're selfish, self-centered people so I doubt the hateful comments will subside. I wish people would have some shame for at least a minute.

3. [+33, -13] Yeah, the comments went too far... I honestly didn't have that positive of an opinion on foreign fans but seeing them speak for justice like this makes me think they're cool. I also didn't care about Jiyeon but seeing her get all this hate makes me like her too.

4. [+15, -1] The owner of Netizen Buzz is a Korean American gyopo female and the site is anti-Korean. The site translates articles from Naver, Nate, Pann, Instiz, Telzone, and even blind items/rumor mills. The site basically discusses Korean netizen comments. The site rarely posts positive articles, mostly negative.. especially ones with hateful comments, and a lot of non-entertainment related news about rape and crime. The site only translates crime news and rumors and I think that's a severe issue. Blind items about celebrities getting abortions, having affairs, etc... Rumors that we would think were ridiculous but gets posted regularly. Popular posts there get hundreds of comments.. one of the bigger sites after allkpop.

5. [+15, -6] Honestly, celebrities get crazy amounts of hate for one mistake but the ones hating on them don't really have any right to... and they say such inhumane things that I'd rather not say out of my own mouth and it's scarier to think that those comments make the best replies. I wish people would stop taking their stress out on bringing others down and relieve it through positive means...

6. [+13, -3] Netizen Buzz is anti-Korea, please take this Pann down

7. [+12, -1] Hey, do you know what kind of site Netizen Buzz is? They're anti-Korean... I've been reading them for a while and they never translate positive comments, only the bad ones, and post only negative articles about Korea like rape, sexual assault, child abuse (which happens in any country). They try so hard to make Korea seem like a crazy country not worth living in... and they always post positive things about Japan and make Koreans out to be the weirdos who hate only hate on Japan.

8. [+11, -2] Netizen Buzz = a site that makes Koreans look like psychos by translating only hateful comments (leaves out idol praises).

9. [+8, -0] You know what's funny about Netizen Buzz? Hateful comments exist anywhere in the world. Japan, China, America, etc... some are even worse than Korean comments. But hateful comments left by other countries are seen as crazy people with nothing better to do with their time whereas hateful comments left by Koreans are seen as the majority/mass public... and they make Korea seem like weird people. Netizen Buzz doesn't care about hateful comments, they're just out to hate on Korea as much as possible. They take articles about Korean society that even Koreans don't know just to stir hate.

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NB:

Okay, first of all. This blog is not pro-Japanese. It doesn't have a pro-Japanese/anti-Korea agenda either. It's just a blog about issues I happen to be passionate about.

The blog started off as a way to provide international fans with context behind what was happening in the K-Pop industry. Often times, before Netizen Buzz, international fans were served the final result of a scandal without any of the context of what happened in between.

For example, Jay Park was kicked out of 2PM. But how? What happened? What were the comments about him saying, what was the public sentiment like that led to him being kicked? Example two, T-ara was pretty much exiled over their bullying scandal. But how? What were the 'proofs' that these so-called netizens were condemning them for? Example three, everything that went the fuck down with Yewon and Lee Tae Im, where one basically lost her career and the other is still on TV.

Etc, etc, etc.

And then the blog began branching into non-entertainment topics to provide even more context for celebrities who got into criminal scandals involving the army, gambling, rape, sexual assault, etc. International fans read that these people were often being let off with light sentences, but why? I translated more non-entertainment articles to provide context on the sentences and the realm of everything going on in terms of the army, iljins/school bullying, and the light sentences on sexual assault related crimes. That, yeah, Korean netizens realize the sentences are too light. Yeah, Korean netizens are mad and want change just like you do. These sentences are not taken as the norm.

The blog is just here to provide as much background information and context as possible to issues that relate to a common topic we're united under, K-Pop.

Some Koreans fail to realize that and the #1 classic response that these people default to without any understanding of the issue at hand is... YOU'RE JAPANESE.

I often receive e-mails from Koreans. Not often, all the time. They say things like, do not air our dirty laundry. You are Korean, you have an obligation to present the best image of Korea possible to the rest of the world.

I don't have an obligation to shit. You don't get to dictate where the responsibility of my blog lies in. I'll paint Korea to be the beautiful, flowery, unicorns that piss glitter picture for you when the paint I use fucking reflects it.

You choose to ignore these very real issues that plague not only Korean society but every damn society in the world and CHOOSE to hinder discussion and understanding on it because you'd rather sweep it away and pin the problem on this site being anti-Korean, pro-Japanese.

Okay. Let's say for some bizarre reason I have soooo much time on my hands and soooo much hate for Korea that this site really is pro-Japanese. What does that change? Does that suddenly make all of those issues that I'm passionate about raising awareness of and sparking discussion in disappear? Does it make bullying, suicide, the rising depression levels, all disappear? Did all of those student suicides never happen? Did all of those cases of rape where the victim never received justice NEVER. FUCKING. HAPPEN? Did celebrities NEVER read those hateful comments and cry, lose their careers, or even commit suicide?

Nobody is stupid enough to believe that Korea is the only country in the world with these problems. For every idiot who thinks that in the comments, someone else will correct them that it's an issue that affects every country, society, and culture in the world. God forbid that I try to incite meaningful discussion in a community that happens to be united under the common interest of K-Pop though, right?

But you know... it's always easier to play the blame game than get to the root of the problem. We can all try to be nicer people like the OP of this Pann initially suggests OR you can just continue to let netizens wield this ungodly power where their words determine the careers and very lives of celebrities by refusing to focus on THAT issue and instead focusing on this site being anti-Korea.

I do post positive articles. I do post positive comments. But people don't care or read them. It doesn't interest them so they gloss over it and move to the next drama/controversy, which I don't fault you for, we're only human and gossip is always juicy... In the end, positive articles don't really provide context for anything that this blog really stands for. This blog doesn't stand for the majority/public opinion and sentiment on everything Korean. It stands for context. And sometimes the most ugliest, least positive comments are the ones controlling the industry. Yeah~~ so-and-so idol is like, suuuuuuper pretty. So what?

I'm not quite sure what ruling this site as anti-Korea accomplishes. We live in a generation where reactions to EVERYTHING is a point of interest. Korean girls react, K-Pop reactions videos, ask Koreans on the streets, ask a white couple their opinions on Korea... People care about opinions. Opinions are interesting. Opinions are also controversial.

In the end, they're just fucking opinions. Treat them like one and move on. If you don't want mean things translated, don't say mean things.

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/end rant.

I'm sorry if this is a lot to take in. I know I rarely ever voice my opinion on this blog just for the purpose of avoiding drama but it's just been sitting on my chest all night. This blog isn't perfect, I know that. There are things I fuck up on all the time, which is really irresponsible of me considering how long I've been running this blog and how big it has gotten.. but my intent is not one of them.

Yeahhhhh, I'll admit I post up some articles just because it's juicy gossip or whatever but I genuinely find them interesting and I think the thousands of other readers do too. Maybe I'm simple-minded like that and enjoy reading some mindless gossip to wind down to at the end of the day, but if I wanted to make this a full blown gossip, click-bait blog to make loads of money off of, trust meeeee... the opportunities are a-plenty. I'll hem and haw with 20 potential articles tabbed and then only post three of them because I realize that most of it is just petty drama that I'm not interested in and don't want to stoop to the level of resorting to (you can judge me all you want for the articles that do end up being posted lol.... they're not exactly of stellar quality either but sometimes judgment is clouded when you're posting at like 5 am.)

Anyway, as always, thank you for your support in this blog. I don't say it enough and you guys deserve all the thanks and more. Thank you to those who contribute so much to the comments section. I understand that sometimes the comment section here isn't the best but on other non-entertainment related topics, we have A LOT of educated readers who have a lot to share about their own culture and experiences. As I always said earlier, it's like taking a mini-vacation through the world when scrolling down comments where you share and compare points of interest from your own culture.

1059 comments:

  1. damn girl. Go off!

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  2. strawberrypizzaMay 2, 2015 at 1:53 AM

    the saddest part is that i fans are easily influenced by those comments

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  3. Hullllll so they wrote some articles about NB

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  4. brave of you to post a negative article about yourself and people shouldn't be influenced by comments so easily. congrats on having an article about you

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  5. sometime the comments in netizen buzz are actually worse than those left on the korean site

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  6. Wow never thought this day will come._.

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  7. To us all here

    http://25.media.tumblr.com/e7b79d5c041c2c40bd0b808327c7ce0c/tumblr_mi15ntvmbM1ru0hq7o1_500.gif

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  8. Thank you for your note. I know blogs can be hard work and I appreciate people who come by and share. And I especially like it when I learn something worthy. A lot of blogs don't have that. Thanks NB!

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  9. Somehow true though, you translate mostly 'hate' comments or comments that would probably gain more reactions/interest.

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  10. I seriously hope someone translates your rant on Pann, that way those delulu k-netz can also understand where you're coming from.

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  11. LMAO!! Good for them to know that the world basically know bout their 'dirty laundry'...

    NB, just ignore them & those haters that said u only posted negative comments & article... i follow this blog since early days & u post both negative & postitive comments... some people just cant see it bcoz they too busy looking at negative side of u...

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  12. tbh i was really disgusted at how the reaction towards jang dong min. they treat it like he just made a little mistake when he belittled and insulted and entire gender over and over again.

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  13. "Does it make bullying, suicide, the rising depression levels, all disappear? Did all of those student suicides never happen? Did all of those cases of rape where the victim never received justice NEVER. FUCKING. HAPPEN? Did celebrities NEVER read those hateful comments and cry, lose their careers, or even commit suicide?"

    Damn gurl you went in on them. I admit I'm not a huge fan of so many negative articles but I do see where ur coming from in that the positive articles get boring real fast. Thanks for doing what you do! Kpop has always been this flowery paradise until this site came and messed with that (and I mean that in the nicest way possible).

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  14. 4. [+15, -1] The owner of Netizen Buzz is a Korean American gyopo female and the site is anti-Korean. The site translates articles from Naver, Nate, Pann, Instiz, Telzone, and even blind items/rumor mills. The site basically discusses Korean netizen comments. The site rarely posts positive articles, mostly negative.. especially ones with hateful comments, and a lot of non-entertainment related news about rape and crime. The site only translates crime news and rumors and I think that's a severe issue. Blind items about celebrities getting abortions, having affairs, etc... Rumors that we would think were ridiculous but gets posted regularly. Popular posts there get hundreds of comments.. one of the bigger sites after allkpop.



    This is basically the truth. Lots of articles get posted on NB that would generate controversy and thus, page views.

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  15. I may not always agree with what you choose to translate but it is a blessing for international fans to have you (and the others who followed) translating comments so we can see their side too. Keep up the good work and don't let it get to you, girl

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  16. l-o-muthafuckin-l

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  17. It will be a never ending cycle if they translate this again lol. Nevertheless, it's OK if they don't get site. We appreciate your effort and intention, that's all it matters

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  18. ...did you even read NB's rant?

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  19. wow shivers. don't worry those who matter don't mind and those who mind don't matter. go go nb!

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  20. too bad you're a biased motherfucker that don't even post all best comments of korean websites, and it's so obvious specially towards YG artists !

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  21. i dont think anyone that reads this blog things their countries are perfect when it comes to comments. on american articles (even liberal sites like huffingtonpost) theres always racist, homophobic, rude comments. its a human problem. maybe korea has more than normal, maybe they dont. ive never been to korea, i cant read korean, i dont know. you cant judge a whole country based on their internet comments. but you also need to discuss the online bullying.
    i think in general in america, hate comments arent that big of a deal. they dont effect any celebrities life except for in extreme cases like justin bieber. even chris brown wasnt that effected. also girls that date guys in boybands get effected but it doesnt ruin their careers. in korea, it literally ruins idols jobs. i think that needs to be discussed. the public can become so convinced someone is wrong that they ruin their lives.

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  22. Sometimes I like what MOD post but sometimes I don't like it bcuz u sometimes only pick -ve comments while there are more upvotes +ve comments.

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  23. slay a bit nb! i've been following the blog since almost the very beginning with the t-ara scandals. (i rmr the livestreams can we bring those back??)
    and i'm so proud of how big the blog has gotten, and for you to sticking to what you believe in.
    at the end of the day it's your blog and as long as you're posting the truth, you can post whatever the fuck you want. it doesn't make you a bad korean or anything. it just makes you a person who wants to accurately report real issues. keep doing what you're doing girl :)

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  24. I love netizen buzz don't worry

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  25. i hope u continue translating korean comments about our comments we made about their comments

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  26. This is my confession:- Sometimes I like what MOD post but sometimes I don't like it bcuz u sometimes only pick -ve comments while there are more upvotes +ve comments when I check later.

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  27. its ridiculous how they didnt even read your faq though... your reasoning for posting mainly negative comments is in there. and a majority understand that these comments dont reflect all of korean society? we understand that this is just a small part... a part that many find interesting. i mean obviously we're here for the gossip, but we all know that everywhere shit happens.... and netizen comments ANYWHERE are absolutely ridiculous, even here

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  28. You go NB!!! Thank you for translating articles for us and letting us know what actually happens...no sugar coating bs

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  29. im just amazed at how they know about this site lol

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  30. Netizen buzz nim! I always thank you for translating. Because i dont really understand korean ㅜㅜ

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  31. did you not read the article lol

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  32. You go do what you do best. There are things in this blog that I never learned and realized that aren't in other websites but are in here that I love. Thank you for your hard work..lol and this goes to show that now you've made it I guess..lol..but haters gonna hate every where. Do what you do best. And thank you for this blog! =)

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  33. Everything_KPOPMay 2, 2015 at 2:00 AM

    Well I guess I've achieved one thing on my bucket list in life: to be a Japanese person... :/

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  34. did you not read the article at all?

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  35. no lie in here , idol is human too, they judge too much

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  36. They basically think we're Japanese and we hate Korea? But we actually visit NetizenBuzz because it's a 100% more legit than allkpop and any other k-pop news website. Plus on NetizenBuzz we get to read what k-netz actually think? Not like allkpop that sugarcoats everything and it's ????????????????

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  37. Well if anything, it does justify a lot of people's perception that Korea is all about image. Which is why when you go over to the country, you won't get the impression as what you get when you go to say Tokyo... why don't they translate that back to Korea LOL. It's interesting how they acknowledge that they have issues like bullying, multi-racial and suicide but when it's brought to light outside of korea, they refuse to acknowledge it. This is the living proof of first world facility but third world mentality. And it will not change unless they really incite change, it will just keep rotating like a vicious cycle which is just sad.

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  38. dude there's ygpress for positive yg articles, whats the point of translating the same thing?? yg ent has a lot of serious criticism for legitimate reasons. deal with it.

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  39. Instead of blaming this site, they should be reflecting on themselves....

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  40. and please go to the faq section and read why nb only translate negative ones. oh whatevs it takes so much effort to some people, does it? i'll just copy it~

    Why are netizens so negative?
    Please keep in mind that this blog only focuses on negative content as that is what usually impacts the industry. There are just as much, if not more, articles that receive a positive response on any given day.

    full: http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/p/are-these-netizen-comments.html

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  41. I'm in awe at the fact that people took the time to write about the blog, and that they pegged you as an anti-Korea person lol tf.

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  42. they even managed to know those idols are dating, how come they don't know about this worldwide free-site? lol.

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  43. did you even read her rant or

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  44. I like this Commenception <3
    Actually, if you want to make the blog to be a click-bait blog to make loads of money, it's okay tho, it's your blog, you could make whatever you want based on it. Even news station make a news that not totally right to get the viewers.
    It's the people who read that should not accept everything as fact
    Only stupid people would generelize something based on a few comments and put everyone in one country in one place and streotyping them

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  45. Thanks, NB, that was really well said! I can only imagine what kind of stresses you endure just running a site like this, and you totally deserve a chance to vent!

    Thanks for doing what you do. There may be some idiots on this site but the rest of us understand what you're doing and appreciate it.

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  46. nb explained a long time ago that she focuses on negative articles bc theyre more interesting and varied, so yes they would get more views bc people are interested in them and they're controversial. i don't know if you rmr positive dumps, but she stopped doing them bc they just didn't get the same amount of attention and she can really only translate "wow so beautiful!" so many ways lmao

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  47. "The site basically discusses Korean netizen comments. The site rarely posts positive articles, mostly negative.. "

    I agree with it though. Yes positive articles don't have that much views as compared to the negative ones, but the articles posted here leaves an impact to I-Netz, really leaving a bad impression against that artist being talked about. You also post articles that doesn't have that much up&down votes (meaning Korea doesn't really care about the issue or sth), and of course I-Netz will still make a big deal out of it, because it was posted here, sometimes it makes you looked biased since there are certain artists where you only post negative articles, even if they also have positive ones. Just a thought.

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  48. I did. I am not accusing NB of being anti-Korea. Read the 2nd to last paragraph she wrote:

    "Yeahhhhh, I'll admit I post up some articles just because it's juicy gossip or whatever but I genuinely find them interesting and I think the thousands of other readers do too."



    Problem is juicy gossip is mostly anger-bait.

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  49. Tbh, Korean culture is so unique.. in my country, there are barely articles with 30kupvotes+++..
    If they want to post negative comment, people usually go to their twittet account and post there...

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  50. WestcoastforeverMay 2, 2015 at 2:03 AM

    Wow, as a fellow gyopo myself I support you Netizenbuzz! Koreans should realize that there are gyopos that are proud of Korea too. We're busy trying to assimilate into the culture of America, but also have the duty to preserve our roots as well. So it's not easy to do both, and it's much harder to feel accepted in this world when you receive hate from both Koreans who don't think you're "Korean enough" and those in America who don't accept you for not being "American enough". It's pretty hard for us and we're doing the best we can, so please show us more love and support than hate. Us gyopos love Korea too, so don't call us yankees and other stupid things like that.

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  51. STARTED FROM ILBE NOW WE ON PANN, started from the bottom now my whole team f*cking here

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  52. I never get anti-Korea sentiment from Netizen Buzz. Yes, some negative articles are translated but so are positive ones. There's a balance. But guess what usually makes news? Negative stuff! But NB still posts positive articles, too. I don't think Koreans are ignorant or mean because of SOME Korean comments I see translated on here - every individual is different. NB even states on the site that any translated articles and comments do NOT represent the opinion of all Koreans. Pity. And lol - pro-Japan? I am neutral when it comes to Japan. And I generally like Korea. I come here to read about some of my favourite K celebs - other articles are like a bonus to me. SIGH. Keep doing what you do, NB.

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  53. Kpop was more fun before you existed NB. Just wanted to say that. I know I am not the only one and it is not your fault. But you indirectly braishwashed good part of the international fandom.

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  54. Well you cannot really compare allkpop and netizenbuzz since allkpop translate articles, while NB translates comments.

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  55. I never understood why anyone ever got upset with NB for the articles that they post. Until NB purports to be anything other than a personal blog or actively engages in oppressive behavior, I don't think anyone really has the right to complain. Get over it. Also, if people are taking these comments to reflect the sentiment of Korean people as a whole, then shame on them. NB provides the content, it's really up to their readers to figure out how to use it.

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  56. Sometimes...
    There's no right, there's no wrong.
    There's only popular opinion.

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  57. You do purposely mainly post negative comments and translate negative things. You know that ignorant people read these comments and think this is Korea's majority opinion. I don't blame them for thinking you're Anti-Korea because I don't believe for one second you don't know how much your blog has negatively effected perception about Korea and certain celebrities.

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  58. You could just simply, idk, not read NB?

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  59. You post click-bait just like any other site-- there's nothing 'anti-Korean' about it. I don't always agree with your way of doing things, NB, but I respect what you do.

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  60. This is the angriest I've seen NB be since I started following this blog

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  61. They are so delusional it's funny.
    And people who complain about the articles posted here are usually mad because they started realizing no one but fangirld cares about their oppas in SK. Everyone got so used to fanbases only translating the nicest articles that they don't seem to realize all of that was a lot o media play.
    Keep doing your thing and never mind Koreans that think everyone who doesn't agree with their dumb ideas is anti-Korea, they just don't realize we're all anti-stupid

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  62. NB continuously says that she doesn't always translate the most positive of comments and that the comments don't reflect every one in Korea. She has a disclaimer but some people choose to ignore it. If you're mature enough, you should know that your own county is problematic and that there is more to Korea than what NB chooses to translate.

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  63. Seriously, I was mad at you for translating anything Park Bom and I regret that. Im sorry. I could apologize because I now see how trivial everything is and people need to chill. Geezz, I still like this site even tho, some comments give me a headache.

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  64. OMFG LMAO. the amount of hypocrites in the comments.
    i'm laughing so hard. anyway, keep doing what you're doing NB. we love you <3

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  65. People only hate netizenbuzz when she translate bot good news about their faves. Lmao

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  66. Way more immature sometimes too..

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  67. confession i know more about korea than i know about my country...

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  68. I guess all in all, after all we've been through we are all Japanese because we have "anti-Korean" sentiment. If we are, why do we like Korean culture and support Korean idols, watch Korean dramas and like Korean food? Every country has their dirty laundry, they're not the only ones.


    NB unnie you can post WHATEVER you like

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  69. I've always love reading your blog posts. Dont mind what they say. Its your blog, do whatever you want with it. You've been here even before i got into kpop and for that i would like to thank you for all the work, time & effort into making this blog. Almost everyday without fail, so keep it up :)

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  70. Even if she doesn't read it, the people around her did, so whatever she does, she will still see comments from NB through other people.

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  71. 8. [+11, -2] Netizen Buzz = a site that makes Koreans look like pschos by translating only hateful comments (leaves out idol praises).

    This is true tho. " it's her blog, she can do whatever she do " But this site biasness for click bait is disgusting =_=

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  72. I am not talking about myself. Just see twitter everytime NB post an article.
    People take seriously even posts she makes with 40 upvotes.
    Most of the times the posts have more discussions and comments than the ones in Korea. Some times it is just pointless.

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  73. but the thing is NB has done the positive comments before, she used to do positive dump. the thing is, positive comments/articles generally don't get many upvotes, and no one wants to read "wow, oppa is the best!!!" 10 times in a row. plus, she's even said that negative comments are what affect the industry the most. there's a good reason she does what she does, some people are just too dumb to find out the reasons themselves.

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  74. Oh, damn.


    I should take this opportunity to thank Netizen Buzz for all you do for us. I don't think I've said thank you enough.

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  75. Ayy my comment is on there~~

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  76. drama is more interesting than brainwashed allkpop content

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  77. It is not her fault that people are stupid, and can't think for themselves.

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  78. I've been your follower sinece the beginning... since your wordpress era until the current blogspot era. sure sometimes I skip some of the articles as I already knew the reactions of k-netz, but what you have here, is really good. I learned a lot of things from all part of the world in the comment section...
    we made it to pann... and again 'WE'RE JAPANESE AND ANTI-KOREA' hahahaha -_-

    Just so you know girl, you got my support. My kpop/korean entertainment interest these days was quite low but hey, I never skip yours tho ^_^ I guess somehow I still show interest through your blog. Thanks btw.

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  79. I love your work and even if you translate a comment with few likes it's still an opinion and it does reflect what some parties in Korea feel about the issue at hand. Keep it up and don't feel disheartened NB!

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  80. Everything_KPOPMay 2, 2015 at 2:06 AM

    Started from no where, now we "Japanese"... :/

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  81. Sorry NB, you're stuck in the middle when the real problem is us lot commenting down here. A number of us know the netizens comments you translate do not represent Korea in anyway but most don't.

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  82. Better than AKP tbh. Although most AKP ppl are coming over

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  83. wow.... they went so far to think that the time you spend to translate these korean articles for the interest of the korean industries. Somehow like you actually helped kpop grow too but they call pro-japanese.

    thank you nb. actually u did a lot ♡

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  84. there are stupid people everywhere. go figure

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  85. True. Some i-netz can be hella irrational and they will rip you to shreds if you do not agree with them, lmao.

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  86. So it's just a endless feedback cycle. Positive and negative articles get posted, but NB readers engage mostly with the negative articles.


    Top most upvoted comment in most articles will be a NB reader ignoring 9 positive comments, and latching onto one negative comment, which of course blows up and it becomes the only thing talked about in the NB comments section.


    It wouldn't be a stretch to blame the readers here partially for NB choosing to focus on negative articles. NB readers seem enjoy them so much after all.

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  87. I hate that fans give so much weight to netizen comments in general and spend so much time worrying about whether a select and narrow sect of Korean netizens support or hate their faves. What happened to just enjoying shit for yourself?

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  88. 4. [+15, -1] The owner of Netizen Buzz is a Korean American gyopo female
    and the site is anti-Korean. The site translates articles from Naver,
    Nate, Pann, Instiz, Telzone, and even blind items/rumor mills. The site
    basically discusses Korean netizen comments. The site rarely posts
    positive articles, mostly negative.. especially ones with hateful
    comments, and a lot of non-entertainment related news about rape and
    crime. The site only translates crime news and rumors and I think that's
    a severe issue. Blind items about celebrities getting abortions, having
    affairs, etc... Rumors that we would think were ridiculous but gets
    posted regularly. Popular posts there get hundreds of comments.. one of
    the bigger sites after allkpop.

    I disagree with pretty much everything here, but the worst part is them saying allkpop is 'big'. I feel like 99% of int. kpop fans left after how they treated Ailee (or even before).

    That said,you go NB. Cannot believe people still haven't figured out this is a blog for discussion-driven and controversial posts, far more interesting than ranking someone's self-worth by their face :)

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  89. Then it's not NB fault. The one at fault are the one taking seriously those articles.

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  90. dont like it? Go back to all kpop.

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  91. i have never really taken nb comments too seriously like i wont judge the entire country based on just a few 100/1000 comments i am sure there are positive comments out there too plus its a known fact that nb focus more on the neg comments.only an idioy would judge the entire country based on few comments posted on blogs ..k-netz need to chill a bit :)


    about crime articles i actually really appreciate nb for doing that because its increases awarness of whats really going on.

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  92. NB my very first site about Korea .. and I'm thank you for everything you post ..

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  93. As much as I enjoy NB. I can't deny that it has shaped Ifan's opinion of Korea and it's not very positive. Which I think is unfair to Korea since this blog does represent Korea in a limited scope. Anyway, I don't think it deserves too much outrage or anything like that. It is what it is. NB does hold some responsibility.

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  94. Some ppl are just upright regardless of nationality

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  95. EverydayMInahDayMay 2, 2015 at 2:07 AM

    at first i didn't like this blogsite but I realized that i can get some news from my faves, if they're still doing good or something happened to them..

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  96. started from the bottom now my whole team fuckin here

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  97. The thing is, I can't believe people here actually judge an entire culture/country based in some comments on the internet lol

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  98. i guess for some/many, NB is like finding out santa isn't real. people are crushed when they have to realize that kpop (and korean culture in general) isn't as shiny and sparkly as it appears on the surface.

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  99. maybe because of the language barriers I suppose... well as an i-netz we depend on website like NB to get info from k-forums too...

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  100. Just keep it real and stay real NB!

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  101. Like the people who post here are any better than netizens or AKP users.

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  102. We all have a responsibility to the world at large. The same could be said of Fox News, it's not their fault stupid people believe their lies but they have a responsibility for presenting biased news.

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  103. Lmao if one got clickbaited it's their own curiosity and their own fault. Nobody put a gun to your head and forced you to click on it.

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  104. EverydayMInahDayMay 2, 2015 at 2:08 AM

    at least NB is better than allkflop with full of retarded writers and biased af

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  105. Its all bout the individuals. If you have an opinion, gotta stand firm on it than get swayed or influenced by those comments

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  106. I Like Your Blog..Its Genuine opinions all the time that I commented...I Like , I Like

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  107. you go Netizen Buzz :)
    i love being able to know what K-nets think about current situations

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  108. This is amazing yes

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  109. Netizenbuzz FAQ

    "Are these netizen comments representative of all of Korea?
    -Definitely not. These are the voices and opinions that
    drive the Korean entertainment industry and its media. Netizens play a
    bigger role in the decisions that are made in this industry than
    probably any other industry in the world and have an extreme amount of
    control in the decision making processes of companies and their
    artists.Netizens have a cause and effect relationship with the media.
    They cause it, the media effects it: it being the industry.



    Are these voices reasonable? Most often not. But the Koreans that don't
    care or aren't commenting aren't the ones impacting the industry, so
    while it's true that these comments don't necessarily represent the majority opinion of all of Korea, that doesn't mean they should be dismissed."

    "Why are netizens so negative?
    -Please
    keep in mind that this blog only focuses on negative content as that is
    what usually impacts the industry. There are just as much, if not more,
    articles that receive a positive response on any given day. "

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  110. too be honest i love this site i used to look at sites like allkpop or soompi with only mostly positive articles that i was wondering y was korea so perfect ,y is there no negative things happenning there? but after finding this blog i see that korea isint perfect like everywhere and that theres negative stuff happenning there too,theres no such thing as perfect in this world,so this site is amazing it lets see positive and negative stuff happening

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  111. In some interview, the MC sometimes asking celebrity if they read negative comment. Why? because its more interesting.. and in western country, there are show when celebrities respond to negative comments too..
    In the end, negative comments are important too..
    If you only read positive respond, celebrity will ended up like Jin Seyeon who think that her acting is healing without need to improving her skills..

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  112. Keep at it. This is my legitimate only good source of KPOP news (RIP final grades)

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  113. The blog never claimed to represent Korea as a whole so it can't be held responsable for people drawing conclusions

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  114. Problem should be seen not get hidden. if one want to have a beautiful society might as well work for it not just create a beautiful lie. I love this blog and I've been able to see sides of stories I wouldn't be able to anywhere else. Thank you NB.

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  115. Thats why they always say dont trust the media too much but people did so who's fault exactly? We all have a part to play. Take it like a grain of salt. blaming nb is like blaming twitter for cyberbullying lol

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  116. and you have the responsibility to take it for what is worth. Yes we can go back and forth with this. There is always someone who is going to take these opinions and pass them off as facts.

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  117. "Nobody is stupid enough to believe that Korea is the only country in the world with these problems."

    Lmao, so u don't read your own comments then?

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  118. Now this will shut the mouth of those who always complained about NB only posting negative comments.
    Stop being so simple minded and stop thinking that 10 translated comments represents the whole Korea, that negative comments= idols is hated/NB hate them, etc...Don't be so stupid damn. D:

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  119. yoooooo that whatever tag :D

    http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140915004605/degrassi/images/5/5e/Whatever.gif

    http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140203115535/survivor-org/images/5/5e/Whatever.gif

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  120. True. With power comes responsibility. That works the same way for NB readers though, with whatever knowledge they gained they should act appropriately with that info as well. Everything on the Internet should be taken with a pinch of salt.

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  121. Ikr. damn annoying..

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  122. True there are a lot if blind fangirls. And don't get me started on all the sexual comments left abt idol or actors junk. It creeps me out so much

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  123. NB take this site down please.
    I hate the comments here.
    Your site made more fanwars between international fans.Even allkpop was not that bad. You are worse than allkpop

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  124. joohyuk's baechuMay 2, 2015 at 2:11 AM

    netizenbuzz님,힘내세요. 님을응원합니다화이팅👍

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  125. Also, I hope this comment is not deleted bc I will continue to come here, but I'm wondering if there are any mature blogs/forums to discuss Korean entertainment and any controversial issues that come with away from ridiculous stan culture? Cause, idk, the discussions everywhere really suck (AKP, OH, Soompi, Omona, ect) recently.

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  126. Everything_KPOPMay 2, 2015 at 2:11 AM

    AKP is just filled with a TON of pre-teens and hormonal teenagers while at least here on NB it evens out between the crazy teenagers and somewhat decent young adults in their 20's.

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  127. Have something to say to nb.. nb completly eat up positive comment.. now you have tons of follower you dont have to focus on negetive artical and negetive comment for view..appreciate your hard work but...also notice that nb being baised some time....

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  128. There's positive post too. And NB just translate what K-net say...

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  129. Ehhhh C-Netz comments are even worse so you're going fine

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  130. I don't really care about click baits and negative comments translation however I do believe NB has made NB commenters feel like they are superior to knetz and sometimes even a step further, Korea. It has bred a generation of inetz (not all but a significant number) who think it's their God given right to judge a whole country based of a few specially selected negative comments.

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  131. Oh it's on now k-netz, IT IS ON.

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  132. NB has no right to bitch because she herself encourages that "knet"
    behavior from international fans. You started a blog, you get money from
    the negativity that you choose to translate so don't play victim.

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  133. This website is just a very angry place, reinforced by a constant stream of negative articles, with comment sections acting as echo chambers where people cheer each other on as they slam and insult people.

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  134. And it's really not the international fans who start fanwars's fault that fanwars happen wow ok :')

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  135. Lol are you serious ?

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  136. I don't get the hate at all from both Koreans and the people on NB saying you've painted Korea a certain way. They should know better than making this the only site to read. This is your blog. You can post whatever you like and think is interesting. Running a blog isn't easy especially ones that have lots of visitors and people expecting you to update often. Much respect to you and thank you for Netizenbuzz :)

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  137. 6. [+13, -3] Netizen Buzz is anti-Korea, please take this Pann down

    Lmao knetz. they refuse to accept that they are the problem.

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  138. AKP used to have such a good forum...

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  139. NB has no right to bitch because she herself encourages that "knet"
    behavior from international fans. You started a blog, you get money from
    the negativity that you choose to translate so don't play victim...

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  140. We like Korea. We like kpop. That's why we go on nbuzz to see different sides and perspectives of kpop scandals/korean current events that never get explained to international fans. You go nbuzz for standing your ground! Thank you for NOT sweeping "dirt" under the rug like some people have told you to do, because important WORLD issues like bullying and suicide need to be discussed in order for these issues to get any better.

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  141. I feel the same.You are not the only one.International fans didn't have that much fanwars before sites like this opened

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  142. Legit. Like what do people want to see when they complain that only 'negative' articles are posted here? You want to read about who gained a MILLION followers on instagram? well there is another site for generic 'news' like that, go forth.

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  143. She just post what K-net said

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  144. Sometimes...
    There's no right, there's no wrong.
    There's only popular opinion.

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  145. Everything_KPOPMay 2, 2015 at 2:13 AM

    Literally ANYTHING is better than AKP these days. A pile of dog poop is better than AKP. That site degenerated to a pit of (banned) troll accounts.

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  146. My biggest issue is you translate comments with little upvotes, showing people dont really care
    that and you ban people who mention other translating sites, which is petty as hell tbh
    lmao @ u mentioning the t-ara scandal tho

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  147. Girl look at you, ya famous!

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  148. This is basically my stance. Regardless of intentions, her blog has hurt KPOP more than help it imo.

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  149. clickbait aside, netizen buzz wouldn't be translating "negative posts" if knetz didn't create these posts first, ha

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  150. Yeah we deserve to see all sides of the story!

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  151. In allkpop, you find obvious trolls but here in NB, you see brainwashed idiots trying to be smart , that's even worse.

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  152. i would say the difference between NB and fox is that NB doesn't pass off netizen comments as a reflection of national sentiment. she explicitly states that on her site so you can't blame her for people generalizing.

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  153. Having been on NB since before you put in Disqus, let me say that I've always appreciated that you show a different side of things. Before this site came around, the only real source for anything was allkpop and we all know how much bullshit they publish.
    We as international fans who buy and support K-pop have every right to know what is happening with the groups we like and their fandoms, whether that be good or bad.
    I think that Korean netizens needs to realize that most people on this site have an appreciation for both K-pop and Korean culture and for us to understand anything properly, we need to understand every side of any given situation. How can we possibly talk about K-pop if we don't understand the cultural things that go along with it?
    No country is perfect and every place has it's flaws. If you ever want anything to change, you need to be able to discuss it openly.

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  154. www.reddit.com/r/kpop is a popular forum; much of the discussion on there is rarely, if at all, fanatical

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  155. But Twitter does share fault for cyberbullying because their platform make it very easy to cyberbully.

    If you provide an environment for an action or reaction then you share some fault.

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  156. Inet=knet... I just laugh whrn inet commented on how ridiculous knet are, when in reality inet is the same trash asll. I hate inet act like they are right and know better about korean

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  157. well yeah i agree with you but i wouldn't say she "brainwashed" us . it's just that she doesn't sugar coated things like other sites. and she actually showed us what really happens inside of the korean entertainment industries.

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  158. You can't blame the translator for people with not sence of reality that take seriously those articles, maybe they are hurt to discover opparr is not virgin nor a saint D': anyway there are tons of others websites that keep brainwashing internation fandom before NB existed. "Kpop was more fun before you existed NB" Excuse me, Kpop was fun when it wasn't taking seriously on social media

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  159. NB, you're awesome.
    And I love you.

    Instead of blaming the others that this site is anti-korean, they should reflect themselves as well.
    If they dont want to be viewed negatively, dont write those hurtful negative comments then.
    Sometimes those negative comments are so judgmental & irrational.

    And We, international fans, have the right to know what's really going on in kpop industry. And NB helps us by creating this website& translating things to us. Thank you!!!

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  160. She only posts the top comments which can be manipulated

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  161. I agree and sometimes people just leave shoking comments just to get a reaction, it's pretty stupid imo.

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  162. I love this RANT!! Basically just stop taking everything on the internet way too seriously

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  163. I've never once thought NB was Anti-Korea. Never. It's sad to think that some of the commenters would think that's what's going on rather than looking at their own actions/comments and seeing what's wrong there.

    More people in life, not just netizens of any kind, need to understand that when people point out flawed or hateful behavior, it's not because (or just because) they dislike the individual behind it, it's because they recognize the actual problem.

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  164. SorrySorrySorrySorryMay 2, 2015 at 2:15 AM

    Tomorrow is a better day NB :)

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  165. Sometimes.


    But I think the thing is is that we aren't getting offended or upset about the 'representation of our countries' when the comments get back-translated. That's the issue here-- Koreans want to get upset about the representation of their country but don't stop to filter out the garbage that they're posting on the internet. Instead, they want NB to cease to exist to cover up their issues so that the world doesn't know what their people or country is like.

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  166. Ya seriously!! =.= that's why I usually refrain from commenting

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  167. Oh, I have a standing policy against anything having to do with Reddit, actually, lol. But thank you for the link- I appreciate it.

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  168. Noraini Zainal AbidinMay 2, 2015 at 2:16 AM

    well what most of you like to say here YOU SOW WHAT YOU REAP, YOu REAP WHAT YOU SOW,,
    NB,, pity you,,,,,,,well I hope you still be here,,kkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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  169. you're right. we are all the same. my fav was when knetz said ifans are "roaches who only write gay fic" but if you go on instiz.. there are tons and tons of that

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  170. http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m98m8zOsaY1rzy8sso1_400.gif



    girl it is a kpop forum.....not that serious

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  171. I noticed that on positive articles like x looks like a goddess and knetz comments agree but NB comments are like omg so overrated she's not so pretty etc.
    It's hilarious that when people actually get positive articles there aren't as many feedbacks or people start dragging the idol in comment section themselves

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  172. K-netizens remind me of french people (i'm french) : ridiculously chauvinistic and judgmental but so easily offended when it come to them...

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  173. Searching For FreedomMay 2, 2015 at 2:16 AM

    Geez dont drag us japanese to your shit koreans.

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  174. as if the money is a giant shield against the constant negative hate train

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  175. NB isn't playing victim, she's angry because people are accusing her of being anti-Korean because she isn't lying for them and covering up all of the nasty parts of their culture.

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  176. Every country have bad people .
    I don't see any problem with it

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  177. I know many kpop fans who think that the comments from K netizens in this site are the truth and they start doubting their own beliefs

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  178. I agree. Inetz acts like they are superior compare to knetz well in fact they're both hypocrates.

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  179. i didn't know that I was supporting an anti-Korean blog all this while...ahahahaha
    Amazing how they actually care what we think..lulz..
    Knets,be nicer to ur celebrities(especially idols) they r d one who brought our interest to ur country n make S.Korea popular.

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  180. now when someone asks me im gonna say im japanese

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  181. We're the monsters that their comments created, aren't they proud? GET THAT RECOGNITION NB-tizens!


    https://p.gr-assets.com/540x540/fit/hostedimages/1380365094/716935.gif

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  182. its like movie Inception. :O

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  183. They're the same because they both have an agenda, and cherry-pick things to show readers.

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  184. Been a supporter of you, Netizenbuzz since day one.
    Always will be.

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  185. You are Korean, you have an obligation to present the best image of Korea possible to the rest of the world.I don't have an obligation to shit. You don't get to dictate where the responsibility of my blog lies in. I'll paint Korea to be the beautiful, flowery, unicorns that piss glitter picture for you when the paint I use fucking reflects it.

    lol you spazzed on dat ass!!!

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  186. tbh the Jiyeon comments were one of the worst :
    1-It was a fan not an anti who pulled her hair by mistake.
    2-the comments were disgusting because they wish death and sickness upon someone else.

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  187. Cant blame you for ranting over the comments of that post. Seriously?? Anti Korean or pro japanese? Never exactly thought you were and ive been on this site for information for a couple of years. Seems no one added the faq you have that does say you will mostly post articles that have negative opinion, cause you're right more people enjoy reading stuff like that.
    But damn from ilbe to now pann ... this site is really moving up.

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  188. CONGRATS GURL!

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  189. stay strong NB!! I hope you won't closed this websites....reading NB have been a part of my life(i'm a lifeless person XDDD) the first thing that i checked out when i woke up in the morning is NB..XDD

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  190. I will take this oppurtunity to thank you you too NB... thank you for taking your time to translate comments for us we really appreciate it a lot :) I'm not sure how you felt while reading this article but I hope that you are not hurt in any way. Please don't change anything and post whatever you want. Have a nice day :D

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