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Thursday, April 9, 2015

[Pann] Block B's Bastarz unit teaser controversy





Pann: Block B's unit concept is crazy

1. [+96, -14] What is this ㅋㅋ Why are there random women in kimonos and why are they taking their clothes off? Imagine if a Japanese idol shot a music video in a traditional Korean home and they were stripping women in Korean hanboks..

2. [+76, -12] They don't seem to know how to walk in another's shoes... imagine if a Japanese idol put women in Korean hanboks and stripped them like this, it'd be so controversial ㅡㅡ

3. [+70, -36] Said you would be reflecting but of course this is what you amount to

4. [+33, -3] This is why I find it ridiculous when Block B fans criticize the character of other idols ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

5. [+28, -2] Gross, enough with this male prostitute concepts

6. [+26, -2] They would've still gotten hate if the women were wearing hanboks... but they're doing this with Japanese kimonos.. What will the public say when they see this? The public was finally warming up to them after 'Nanrina' hit it big.. Even the men around me said they liked 'Nanrina' but now their image is going to take a hit and they're going to get hate all over again...

7. [+26, -2] Bastarz sounds cool and all but the actual meaning is bastard. I'm sure if they ever go overseas, their name will be perfectly accepted.. as if......

8. [+18, -2] Dumb fans, you can't defend everything your oppas do;;; this is their fault no matter how you look at it;; this is rightful criticism, especially with how much attention K-Pop's been getting on YouTube, this could very well get Korea tons of hate;; use your head for once

9. [+18, -3] Can't believe Block B fans are acting like this is no big deal ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ How is this not a problem? They're under seedy lighting stripping women wearing kimonos. This crosses a line. It would've been just as controversial if they were stripping women in regular clothes but imagine if Japan got a hold of this, Korea would get so much hate. Please use your heads for once.

10. [+13, -4] Just saw the teaser and they don't just strip them, they grope them too... is prostitution their concept? This is crazy

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366 comments:

  1. It just looks like BLock B with less members...

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  2. uhh its not even a big deal imo

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  3. The teaser looks like a mess.

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  4. Wow that's rude...
    It's other people's race and culture.

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  5. bornfree_onekissApril 9, 2015 at 1:34 AM

    Another reason why I can't seem to stan Block B 😔 sorry

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  6. Tbh, its quite 19++ teasers & all.... still, i love Block B...

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  7. Block B has proved time and time again that they're incredibly dumb but people forget about it everytime lmao

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  8. Imagine if Arashi had a comfort women concept

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  9. This is basically a comfort women concept.... not cool

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  10. hmmmm I wonder why they decided to go with such a vulgar concept.... perhaps because people will talk about it???? /s

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  11. that's what a subunit is, yes.

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  12. Seeing blood on the floor follow by images of women in undies... can't help thinking that is menstrual blood. Gross out...

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  13. lol we love controversy

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  14. A big damn mess like almost everything related to this group lol

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  15. Zico: http://cdn2.brooklynmuseum.org/images/opencollection/objects/size3/CUR.11.694.8994.jpg

    http://i3.cdnds.net/12/44/618x602/betsyintutu.jpg

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  16. They don't think.


    I don't even live in Korea and I know that this concept would be controversial. What are they doing?

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  17. You got to be kidding me, did you even watch the teaser?

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  18. they are not bastarz but a bastard.. lol.. sorry

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  19. delusional much _._

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  20. They shouldn't have been wearing kimonos, tbh. That's the only issue I see.

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  21. well if their song is catchy then ill still support LOL

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  22. This is so disgusting though.
    I guess dumb block b fans will defend these dumb block b boys saying that everyone in the world does this and it's normal. Ugh.

    The teaser looks a mess and the name of their sub group is stupid too.

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  23. no one really minds it being vulgar but some other things

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  24. Ikr I thought I am the only one feel like that.

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  25. thats why i dont stand boy groups..

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  26. These kids at it again, their agency and the members seems to never learn. How far are they willing to go?

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  27. "this time we'll try harder" said whoever comes up with their concepts and lyrics.

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  28. and their music is so loud

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  29. Sighhh... There's not much to say about this. I hope Block B can start thinking /CAREFULLY/ about the consequences of their actions before acting upon it.

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  30. Exactly, I don't understand how half the things they do just go written off.

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  31. block b seems never learn, eh?

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  32. lol.. so im not the only one

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  33. it's so dumb if people think this concept look cool & ok...

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  34. The vulgar had to do with the "other things" lol sorry if that wasn't more clear.

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  35. Because they're real artists /s

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  36. That BASTARZ name is seriously embarrassing. Why, lord, why?

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  37. Nope i feel it too... During Match Up I kind leaned towards B1A4 Cause they seemed more passive for a rookie group. After their scandal with their company i kinda warmed up to them but with continuous scandals and with WINNER debuting i felt more uncomfortable seeing them and now with this I'm like that a big NO-NO

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  38. I like block b but this is gross 😖

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  39. They probably think that they'll get away with it.

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  40. Block B is a group where they don't actually have any functioning brain cells.
    You're Korean thus you should know about your country's relationship with Japan. Don't mock a highly touchy and controversial issue. You're doing nothing but worsening the situation.

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  41. To get attention

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  42. This is too much!! Why do they ruin themselves like this!?? They have so much potential but always mess it up for themselves.

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  43. + worse thing is there are more japanese people that like Kpop that korean people that like Jpop.


    Imagine how Japanese fans fell when they see this

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  44. this person gets it

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  45. are you joking?


    they aint any more real than 21825852 other idols that also write and compose

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  46. That's not artistic, the song sounds good but the videoclip...

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  47. Jongsuk's WifeApril 9, 2015 at 1:41 AM

    So much Block B hate... Athough I can see why this would cause a stir.
    Not gonna lie, i'm over all this.


    Their debut as a unit is gonna be amazing and no matter how much hate I get over what I said... Block B is freaking amazing and unique. Even if they have shitty concepts (which in my personal opinion I like) they're still great. YOLO SWAG.

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  48. I think that person was being sarcastic

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  49. "/s" mean sarcastic

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  50. there is getting attention that will make u a talk all the town in bad way and there is getting attention in a way that id really offensive

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  51. I actually like them during Match up but sometime I think the way they're acting is too much. It's not even funny and it can be rude. I remember the episode when they need to buy food and exchange with B1A4 and at that time in front of those boys' face they spilled sauce on the foods for them. After that they realized their 'mistakes' and apologized but I can't forget B1A4's boys face at that time. It was so freaking rude.

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  52. The pictures alone made me uncomfortable and kinda bleh!~
    after watching the Teaser... Like heck nah
    all this mess even in regular clothes is uncomfortable BUT SURE LETS ADD SOME POLITICAL/CULTURAL spin on it and Use Kimonos

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  53. What does this mean. Zico is a bundle of sticks with bad fashion???!!

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  54. Block B is really stupid. Or at least their company. Probably both. Damn /smh

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  55. i thought subunits were supposed to be something different from your usual group. their teaser and concept sounds exactly like block b. plus it's disappointing they decided to touch on someone else's culture.

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  56. As the years went Block B has been getting more and more stupid, like why?
    There was a time I loved them, but somehow drifted away from them and now I see why.
    Isn't it bad enough women have to sell sex appeal in order to get their own careers running, do they have to be used as sex toys in every stupid video now??
    Don't these lads have sisters, mums, aunts, cousins??
    Heck, U-Kwon is in the damn group and he has a girlfriend, whatever happened to them Korean men who used to be all 'I would never do ..... to women, because I would hate it if men did it to my woman'
    Seems like they sticking true to their unit name.

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  57. The teaser is a HUGE mess. They were thinking at all.

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  58. I'm a fan and I knew they'd get so much hate from this. Tbh it's displeasing to the (some) fans as well... Or it's just me. One thing that i dont want to happen is blockb to get into another trouble but oh boy

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  59. Gross. After Zico's "Tough Cookie" and having the Confederate Flag I don't even listen to their music let alone support the.

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  60. I seriously like Block B's music, it's so pumped up but THEY NEED TO RECHECK THEIR CULTURAL SENSE! This is DUMB AF!!!! And it's not the 1st time seriously

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  61. I love Block B music (minus Tough Cookie) but I can't really defend their controversies.

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  62. Seems like some people never learn from the past huh.

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  63. I hope the video focuses mostly on the choreo (hello, U-kwon and B-Bomb here).

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  64. So sad that they had to resort to these things to make up lack of singing talent of this sub unit

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  65. they clearly dont care. they were aiming for this reaction; pushing boundaries so people can talk about it.

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  66. This is one place nugudom pays off. People have the memory of goldfish, and Block B is lost in the flood of debuts with only the fans really paying attention to them.

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  67. At least make the women wear something that isnt related to a country's culture and tradition. This is offensive and also a straight insult to japan's culture. Why they dont use their brain properly while they stil have it?!!!

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  68. I'm sure people will pay attention, just like Stellar's Marionette.

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  69. ....looks interesting but very controversial. surprised at the reaction tbh.

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  70. Honestly what do you expect after the mess Zico created called Tough Cookie. I'm actually excited for EXID's comeback and 24K.

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  71. Should've just used chicks in lingerie around them like a pimp like in 10000 other mv's & get less hate.

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  72. Rap culture in western is even more crazier. But this is Korea, and they think that people can love the concept like this? poor Block B and BBCs. Saying shit in Thailand doesnt enough, now they just bash a whole Japanese women. What a gentleman!

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  73. Let's just hope the song is GOOD!!
    Bastarz fighting!!

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  74. UGH! That scene! When i saw the comments i was like "they are being too harsh, they are prob close and were just messing with one another"
    but after i saw the scene I was actually pretty mad, because B1A4 actually took it seriously since they debuted around the same time and wanted to get close but Block B goes and does something like this, I wouldn't have been able to keep a decent face like B1A4 did tbh i would have flipped the moment i got in the car...they did a lot of over the top things in that show and then they added to that scandal after scandal :/

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  75. You got no brain just like them

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  76. When smth like this happens. song is irrelevant.

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  77. some people are really forgetful

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  78. How many controversies does this make for them now?

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  79. Jongsuk's WifeApril 9, 2015 at 1:48 AM

    Some of us actually couldn't care less about politics and controversies. They're talented and i'm super excited for this units debut. Sorry not sorry.

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  80. Why those block b kids seem to always involve in this kind of controversy. They should put their senses rather than always trying hard to look cool when they shoot music video.

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  81. Stellar marionetter didnt use girls in KImono as whores

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  82. Yeah, the funny thing is I really like them and watched Match Up because of them but ended liked B1A4 more lol

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  83. What the hell is this.

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  84. goddammit Block B here you go again creating anti-fans... when will you ever learn... good thing it only happens during the sub-units and stuff but still :P

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  85. the girls in underwear with the plastic raincoat reminds me of robin thicke blurred lines mv

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  86. The song sounds good, but the concept is so messy. What's with all the blood. So disgusting and What's with the combination of butcher in their underwear and prostitute in kimono supposed to mean. SO random and inappropriate. yikes

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  87. Block B continues to be an absolute mess. Disappointing.

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  88. Even though im not a fan of block B i always hear about them but mostly for negative news lol. atleast gaining some attention

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  89. because they try to prove that they don't care about netz opinions and do whatever they want or think about (although they secretly do care)

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  90. Exid's comeback will be awesome for sure !!

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  91. ohh new thing to learn on internet everyday

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  92. I thought the presence of meat being chopped would indicate it's gore but ok lol

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  93. Right after I was just trying to like Block B after Her...
    lol they just make it hard for me to like them. Zico hasn't even apologised for the words in Tough Cookie.

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  94. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

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  95. Even BIGBANG or DBSK ???

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  96. Jongsuk's WifeApril 9, 2015 at 1:52 AM

    Because Zico gives zero shits.

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  97. when is it? i mean EXid?

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  98. Its always a national controversy with them..

    Being rude in Thailand
    Using the Confederate flag
    Japanese comfort women concept
    Smh...

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  99. As if this matters, their music in the video still sounded good

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  100. If we could stop bikini clad women in mvs that would be great. and also, stop using other people's culture for your own use that'd be great.
    That being said this isn't 100% their fault cause obvs they didn't direct this BUT comeon now! They're grown men- they should've expected the controversy!

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  101. Kpop fans keep suprising me everyday

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  102. Embarrassing.
    I'm embarrassed to like Block B's music.

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  103. I was wondering how long it would take for people to cotton on about the
    concept as well as the rating.



    Taking old agency to court.



    Thailand Flood: They just finished recovering from Thailand flood controversy having to go as far as shaving heads.


    Tough Cookie: Zico mentioning the word 'Faggot' and the presence of confederacy flag in his solo number.


    And still not enough obviously.

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  104. There are asian women raped all over the world bc of perpetuation of stereotypes like this, but glad you don't care as long as the music is good.

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  105. On April 13!!!!!! I'm pumped!!!!

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  106. whats that derogatory slur of homosexuals that was used in zico's solo?

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  107. The thai incident is exaggerated though..

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  108. LE is producing it so for sure its gonna be bomb!

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  109. why this give me dayum 'wow this is so wrong boys' image here, this is not cool

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  110. are you zico also?

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  111. I really want to know whether this concept was their own idea or not because this is all kinds of bad and hella no.

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  112. Jongsuk's WifeApril 9, 2015 at 1:55 AM

    Actually, in the 8 years I have been a kpop fan, i've long passed the delusion fangirl stage. I live in North America and boo hoo, every race/religion here gets some type of hate. Suck it up. It's not a huge deal. Japanese people wouldn't even care about this, who are you guys to get offended by it.

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  113. I got gore too. Sick "concept."

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  114. lmao I cant stand the idols that act all hard like I understand having a concept and loving hip hop and all but acting like your from the "streets" is pathetic...I forgot who it was but I remember an idol saying that another idol had a "black soul" da fuq or when GD acts all black and hard in his "thug" video smh not only does it makes me cringe but it saddens me as well. As the saying goes "everyone wants to act black but no one wants to be black"

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  115. Jongsuk's WifeApril 9, 2015 at 1:56 AM

    Actually, many people get raped. Those soldiers fighting and "protecting" the USA and shit rape many girls and women. Rape happens everywhere, stop bringing that shit into everything. I wonder how so called righteous you are in real life lol.

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  116. just google "bundle of sticks" and "female dog"

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  117. ew :s the girls in kimono are also shown doing dogeza (full fledged on the ground bow, head touching the floor. done to show reverence, respect, or as an apology or way to ask big favour. you're also kinda expected to feel shame when doing it.)

    idk in this video it just rubs me the wrong way because of how the women are sexualized and used as props :s

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  118. Rape doesn't just fall out of the sky you know.

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  119. I think we all agree that block b are one of the most problematic groups in kpop, they try to be creative but end up looking dumb and get even more hate, honestly zico ruined block b for me and this subunit just ruined it even more

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  120. this is different, though... and it isn't the right way to get attention. it's just wrong on so many levels...

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  121. Noise marketing that goes way to far. This group is a mess.

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  122. like that's something to be proud about regarding this issue

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  123. Its so obviously they are looking for controvercy for every promotion.

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  124. 'Japanese people wouldn't even care about this'


    You clearly proved that u are an idiot.
    And u arent delusional fan girl. U are dumb fangirl

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  125. o YA oppar is so hip hop!!! lol 0 fuks given lol!!!!!!!11

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  126. *Sam Smith voice* I know I'm not the only one

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  127. Hollywood films do same thing...

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  128. I didn't watched it yet. But Prostitution as a concept is just no. As a woman, I'm not comfortable in looking at those picture. Don't you think it's a touchy subject? I think they are trying to get the public to like them because they are Anti-Japan or something. This is the company's fault as well as Block B.

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  129. Jongsuk's WifeApril 9, 2015 at 1:58 AM

    Well it also doesn't mean it's their fault. Those girls agreed to do this, I don't understand where your logic is coming from? Even if girls wore boxes and stayed in a corner without making eye contact, a guy would still have the urge to rape. Y'all feminist dumb asses are actually dumb..

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  130. LE ! She's so beautiful

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  131. With the Japanese government being adamant about admitting and apologizing to Korean comfort women, these comments are actually much nicer and rational than I thought.

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  132. Avenida Brazil ?

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  133. Jongsuk's WifeApril 9, 2015 at 1:59 AM

    LOL, I can actually message up 4 of my Japanese friends and ask them if they give two shits... They won't.

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  134. OMFG your 4 friends represent whole Japan

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  135. They'll prob make a vid saying their sorry and didn't "realize" what they were doing smh

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  136. at least they're not limiting themselves to insulting one nation right?

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  137. Jongsuk's WifeApril 9, 2015 at 2:00 AM

    Well you can't always please the public lol.

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  138. Just like Red velvet Happiness MV looking for controvercy and attention

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  139. Jongsuk's WifeApril 9, 2015 at 2:01 AM

    You're actually dumb. Being "offensive" doesn't make them "so hip hop"...

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  140. hollywood isn't a good standard to measure whats right and what wrong... it's one of the most depraved, racist, sexist film industries in the world :x

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  141. I wouldn't be surprised if someone stabbed one of the members lol

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  142. Just bcs someone is doing it doesnt justify what Blobl B are doing

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  143. literally, like they want to be black so bad but when shit like ferguson happens, nobody says shit. they just want to reap all the benefits of black culture without having to deal with the negatives that black people face as a community.

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  144. Jongsuk's WifeApril 9, 2015 at 2:03 AM

    And you apparently KNOW and automatically represent all of Japan. :) If THEY have a problem with it, let THEM deal with it and bash. Try and fix your countries racist ass first.

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  145. You've called me dumb 3 times in the past minute yet are unable to grasp basic sarcasm.

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  146. I felt sorry for them, getting into a lawsuit with their company and all. I'm always rooting for the small frys and underdogs. But this group is just DUMB and my pity doesn't stretch indefinitely. Eventually it runs out.

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  147. especially with the background on korea and japanese's war and how women were treated as prostitutes in the opposite countries.

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  148. You dont even know from what country i am from honey

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  149. Jongsuk's WifeApril 9, 2015 at 2:04 AM

    Oh no, I did... Trust me. I just don't want to use any word more offensive... Too much offensive in one article already.

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  150. Tbh ever since RM said his talent is talking black, I've pretty much been a little desensitized to it. I'm so embarrassed when I remember that I stan some of these people; I feel like a traitor :(

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  151. Block B has shown me over and over again that I can't like them...like no matter how hard I tried to enjoy them (and they got some good songs) they always find a way to fuck it up. I stopped caring about them entirely after Zico went solo and used the "F" word (which the company apologized for, but Zico and his company know very well what that word was and how it was used in his song). Being "thug" and "gangster" doesn't give u any right to be an ass.

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  152. how is this similar to happiness?
    SM didnt use girls to represent Japanese whore

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  153. this is rude. Like them using kimono, use hanbok instead.

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  154. this mv provoking japan and mocking japan culture

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  155. but you can at least try to use common sense and not do something that you know will most likely offend them

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  156. Seemed like it was gonna be an okay release but this teaser is awful.

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  157. Jongsuk's WifeApril 9, 2015 at 2:06 AM

    Point? Every country has issues like that. Before bashing and hating online where it makes ZERO difference, if you care so much go take real action out in the real world.

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  158. Fortunately Arashi aint that dumb

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  159. oh well more controversy, they should have not done thi, they now Korean/japanese relationship, and this just put oil to the fire.

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  160. Homophobic slurs, racial slurs, culture appropriation, misogyny. I sure i've missed some as well

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  161. so what if he/she doesn't like bb or dbsk?

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  162. Jongsuk's WifeApril 9, 2015 at 2:08 AM

    How do you know it would offend them? Are you Japanese? Do you even wear Kimonos? I don't understand why everyone has to jump up and act all offended. If it offends them so much and you feel so bad for them... Do something that will actually make a difference instead of crying on an online blog about it.

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  163. Me too lol the first Eps i liked block B because they honestly got more air time honestly. But then B1A4 won me over and began getting upset that they didn't get much air time lol Like even on the show when the Leader had to be the GPS, i think, and the members had to find the commenter on the show's forum, all the comments were for B1A4 and i was like "aww" but then i saw why ppl leaned more towards B1A4 as the show went on.
    I honestly wish Block B thought of their actions more because of the love BBCs genuinely have for them and the support the public gave them when they came back through Seven Seasons

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  164. I wasn't saying this in a bad way so calm down !

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  165. http://www.mb.com.ph/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/RedVelvet_MV_Screenshots-300x251.jpg

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  166. i didn't even notice the kimonos when i watched... i just listened to the song teaser. was looking forward to it. but i'll reserve my judgment. if anyone in japan find this offensive, then it is offensive. it's their culture. if people in japan don't find this offensive, then it's not really someone else's place to tell them they should be offended....

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  167. this is what happened when hip hop groups are obsess with american music and mv.If you do that in America,it should be no problem,but you do that in korea,it's a different story

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  168. Yes I know that those 2 videoclips are different, but both gain a lot of attention.

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  169. She really is. I love her eyes and dat body daaaamn girl!!!!! I also lover her voice.

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  170. Idek know what this is but those screenshots look so distasteful

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  171. If this turns out to be what it looks like,I may not just remain a BBC anymore.

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  172. yeah i watched the vid and im done with block b, thank god i left the fandom

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  173. Ohhhhh okay. My b. That joke went over my head. Like that song.

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  174. It's just women angry. Japan society sexualizes women in kimonos all the time. There's an entire genre of JAV porn with dudes raping/attacking women in kimonos including IR and all kinds of weird stuff.

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  175. as if they won't hate on Kpop otherwise

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  176. I went on youtube to see their vid and there are pretty much no dislikes and everyone in the comments are like "so excited!!!" how can anyone stan them...especially girls considering how much they objectify them smh

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  177. Zico be like sweg sweeg sweg. Btch ain't got no time to think the sensivity. SMH

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  178. Especially as Korean women suffered from that at the hands of Japan, it makes no sense for them to do this. It's not only disrespectful to the Japanese (two wrongs don't make a right) but a mockery of their own history and of the past suffering of their own people.

    Are they like 10 years old? What's wrong with them?

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  179. the pictures seem like a bunch of japanese girls are eagerly begging for korean tiny di*k.

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  180. I'm not personally offended cos it's not my culture. I'm just pointing out the lack of common sense in these promotions. I believe that they will be offended because of the history Japan and SK share which is still a very sensitive issue. In variety shows when someone uses a japanese term they're quick to correct it. Whenever something japanese appears on a music video it quickly becomes a topic. Just cos I don't live there doesn't mean I can't observe from general reactions of the public. You can be a fan but the best fans are the ones that accept that their idols made a mistake and criticize them as well so that they can see that belittling ANY culture is not okay and so that there wont be issues like this in the future. Stop being so defensive

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  181. Dude, i think almost every one around here is old enough to know what's right and what's wrong and what situation, much less situations like that, is wrong in the eyes of another human being. And don't worry. Us reacting like this is helping because we're, all of us, is an audience, a viewer and online audiences will more likely be taken seriously because we're the reason why they're up there. A fan or not we're a plus in that view ratings and what we comment or think will still be seen.

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  182. Zico said "you're such a fa**ot bitch" in Tough Cookie I think.

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  183. Stupid and entitled. That's what's wrong with them.

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  184. It was either Rap lizard Bobby or Zico. And there are fans who are so dumb and say shit like " he was born in the wrong race he should've been black" or "his soul is black" like da fuq.

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  185. eh maybe o.o like the comfort women thing was definitely one-sided though, there wasn't any korean invasion/colonization of japan and then the korean military forced japanese women to be sexual slaves.

    but i agree that what block b did was extremely disrespectful to japanese women and japan. and it kinda feels like black b/the mv creators are like "you made 'our' women sex slaves, lets disrespect 'your' women and use imagery to imply we also can treat them as sexual objects" like a video made by jews showing them killing germans in concentration camps ((no such video exists as far as i know, just giving example))

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  186. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-55wC5dEnc&t=5m43s

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  187. I had a disgust look on my face while looking at the Teaser at this point I don't think I can be a BBC any more.

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  188. They think they're hard af and that their "bad image" is a turn on.

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