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Saturday, January 10, 2015

[Pann] Companies cast trainees specifically to provide sexual services?

Pann: Companies cast trainees specifically to provide sexual favors


Q: Is it true that some companies cast celebrity trainees specifically to provide sexual services?

Entertainment agency rep: There are trainees that are cast into a pleasure group.


Entertainment agency rep: They're the type of trainees that would be considered pretty by any non-celebrity

Entertainment agency rep: But professionally, they lack in some areas to fully debut as celebrities. They usually get picked into pleasure groups.


Companies will split trainees into those that have the looks and talents to debut and those that don't. The ones that don't are used to provide sexual services and later kicked out of the company. They're basically used to open up opportunities for their real trainees.

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1. [+45, -2] This is why they say the entertainment industry is dirty...

2. [+27, -1] That's so cruel... they're probably thinking that they'll become celebrities one day too

3. [+25, -1] I don't know about the bigger companies but smaller ones whether you're a celebrity or a model are forced to deal with sponsors. Sponsors are a necessity in the industry to get anywhere. Celebrities will either work with many different sponsors or just one. NS Yoonji's pretty and good at live but people think she's not getting anywhere because she doesn't use sponsors.

4. [+16, -0] I was a trainee at a small agency for three years and I had to give up my dreams after realizing how dirty everything was. At our company, the trainees were divided into 'effort group' and 'practice group'. The people at the company called the effort group unnis the 'pleasure group'. Now that I think about it, I think that group was to provide sexual favors. They'd always say they had to check clothes fits and sizes and dress them in skimpy clothing and take them somewhere every weekend. The industry's dirty.

5. [+10, -1] It's undeniable that companies definitely favor trainees that they know will become a big star.

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329 comments:

  1. I'm both disgusted and pissed off.

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  2. They're playing with trainess's dream.

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  3. Being a trainee itself is hard and these agencies even makes it harder for them to achieve their dreams. Its so sad

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  4. So disgusting. They are playing with people dream

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  5. The entertainment industry is indeed dirty. It's everywhere. Disgusting.

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  6. you'll do anything to catch your dreams.

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  7. Maybe that's the reason why people want to debut under one of the the big three but then again we'll never know what happens behind the scenes.....

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  8. no matter how big or small the company is, entertainment industry is really really disgusting.

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  9. that's just fucked up.
    the trainees worked really hard to be an idol but instead the companies make them prostitutes and then kick them out. i feel really bad for the trainees.

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  10. the world is dirty itself, we as a human being should know how to value our self. I'm glad that more trainee/ex-trainee nowadays have courage to expose such things.. don't let people mistreat you..

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  11. Dear NB can i ask for Mamamoo's Immortal Song's article? Thanks

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  12. Korean entertainment industry is the dirtiest

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  13. Sexual abuse of minor is rampant in every entertainment industry and a lot of these record execs and sponsors are sick, sick people who use their influence to coerce, blackmail and manipulate these children for sex.Anyone remember the Johnny Entertainment scandal that alleged pedophilia?The Boy's Over Flowers actress who committed suicide after being forced to sleep with men by her manager? Tera Patrick who was a child model in Japan talked about being preyed on by photographers.It's vile and often these children are left vulnerable.I'd never let my kid into any sort of trainee agency for this reason.

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  14. Having dreams are important but to recognise and accept reality is a different story.

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  15. This is simply disgusting.

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  16. but the famous one also provide sexual service especially if they need sponsor or the company ask them to also there's some in high places also demand certain celebrity for their..............you can add that yourself

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  17. i cant believe nb banned us all we did was protect snsd from the haters and ppl always find ways to demean us and never want us to be happy and let snsd and sones be becuz snsd is the top girl group. we were just giving a accurate award show and being honest on who are the hater on nb and who are not ppl like dumbells and huey_ss get to have honest opinions so why cant us???? nb is so bias and almost everyone is a snsd hater ppl on nb is bias because every time someone is defending snsd you ppl think that were automatically trolling ppl like huey and dumbells r anti cuz they never miss a chance to bash snsd and they use the excuse that they r fans and are just ctricing them when they are not they use that to cover up there hate i dont care if they disagree but they ppl like them should have the decetcy to if they say nothing nice they should say nothing at all and stop saying they r fans when they arent and stop bullying sones ppl say hueysa and dumbells like one or two members of snsd but just because dumbells stans seohyun and huey stans hyoyeon and jessica dont mean that they arent antis it means she only stans one person and hates the other she is not a sone either and that is a anti. snt mean there sones and like snsd that doesnt erase there hate for them either cuz they never miss a article to bash them. i have been a sone ever since ytma so i know a anti when i see one and huey and dumbells are us sones always get bullied and disgriminated against here almost every thing we say when bashing a snsd anti when they bash snsd gets downvoted flagged and deleted most ppl here are yg stans so u wouldnt know we are the minority put yourselves in our shoes.

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  18. i cant believe nb banned us all we did was protect snsd from the haters and ppl always find ways to demean us and never want us to be happy and let snsd and sones be becuz snsd is the top girl group. we were just giving a accurate award show and being honest on who are the hater on nb and who are not ppl like dumbells and huey_ss get to have honest opinions so why cant us???? nb is so bias and almost everyone is a snsd hater ppl on nb is bias because every time someone is defending snsd you ppl think that were automatically trolling ppl like huey and dumbells r anti cuz they never miss a chance to bash snsd and they use the excuse that they r fans and are just ctricing them when they are not they use that to cover up there hate i dont care if they disagree but they ppl like them should have the decetcy to if they say nothing nice they should say nothing at all and stop saying they r fans when they arent and stop bullying sones ppl say hueysa and dumbells like one or two members of snsd but just because dumbells stans seohyun and huey stans hyoyeon and jessica dont mean that they arent antis it means she only stans one person and hates the other she is not a sone either and that is a anti. snt mean there sones and like snsd that doesnt erase there hate for them either cuz they never miss a article to bash them. i have been a sone ever since ytma so i know a anti when i see one and huey and dumbells are us sones always get bullied and disgriminated against here almost every thing we say when bashing a snsd anti when they bash snsd gets downvoted flagged and deleted most ppl here are yg stans so u wouldnt know we are the minority put yourselves in our shoes

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  19. This is disgusting and foul. How dare they take advantage of an aspiring idol/singer/actor/etc. Pisses me off so much

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  20. i cant believe nb banned us all we did was protect snsd from the haters and ppl always find ways to demean us and never want us to be happy and let snsd and sones be becuz snsd is the top girl group. we were just giving a accurate award show and being honest on who are the hater on nb and who are not ppl like dumbells and huey_ss get to have honest opinions so why cant us???? nb is so bias and almost everyone is a snsd hater ppl on nb is bias because every time someone is defending snsd you ppl think that were automatically trolling ppl like huey and dumbells r anti cuz they never miss a chance to bash snsd and they use the excuse that they r fans and are just ctricing them when they are not they use that to cover up there hate i dont care if they disagree but they ppl like them should have the decetcy to if they say nothing nice they should say nothing at all and stop saying they r fans when they arent and stop bullying sones ppl say hueys and dumbells like one or two members of snsd but just because dumbells stans seohyun and huey stans hyoyeon and jessica dont mean that they arent antis it means she only stans one person and hates the other she is not a sone either and that is a anti. snt mean there sones and like snsd that doesnt erase there hate for them either cuz they never miss a article to bash them. i have been a sone ever since ytma so i know a anti when i see one and huey and dumbells are us sones always get bullied and disgriminated against here almost every thing we say when bashing a snsd anti when they bash snsd gets downvoted flagged and deleted most ppl here are yg stans so u wouldnt know we are the minority put yourselves in our shoes

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  21. <-- :) 누나 레아 에리카January 10, 2015 at 5:45 AM

    May they find strength to break-free from that kind of environment. Giving up a dream is hard but one cannot continue living like that. There is always a better plan for each and everyone of us. :) It may not be today or tomorrow but it will surely happen.

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  22. Ugh what is it. Poor them

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  23. i cant believe nb banned us all we did was protect snsd from the haters and ppl always find ways to demean us and never want us to be happy and let snsd and sones be becuz snsd is the top girl group. we were just giving a accurate award show and being honest on who are the hater on nb and who are not ppl like dumbells and huey_ss get to have honest opinions so why cant us???? nb is so bias and almost everyone is a snsd hater ppl on nb is bias because every time someone is defending snsd you ppl think that were automatically trolling ppl like huey and dumbells r anti cuz they never miss a chance to bash snsd and they use the excuse that they r fans and are just ctricing them when they are not they use that to cover up there hate i dont care if they disagree but they ppl like them should have the decetcy to if they say nothing nice they should say nothing at all and stop saying they r fans when they arent and stop bullying sones ppl say hueysa and dumbells like one or two members of snsd but just because dumbells stans seohyun and huey stans hyoyeon and jessica dont mean that they arent antis it means she only stans one person and hates the other she is not a sone either and that is a anti. snt mean there sones and like snsd that doesnt erase there hate for them either cuz they never miss a article to bash them. i have been a sone ever since ytma so i know a anti when i see one and huey and dumbells are us sones always get bullied and disgriminated against here almost every thing we say when bashing a snsd anti when they bash snsd gets downvoted flagged and deleted most ppl here are yg stans so u wouldnt know we are the minority put yourselves in our shoes

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  24. i cant believe nb banned us all we did was protect snsd from the haters and ppl always find ways to demean us and never want us to be happy and let snsd and sones be becuz snsd is the top girl group. we were just giving a accurate award show and being honest on who are the hater on nb and who are not ppl like dumbells and huey_ss get to have honest opinions so why cant us???? nb is so bias and almost everyone is a snsd hater ppl on nb is bias because every time someone is defending snsd you ppl think that were automatically trolling ppl like huey and dumbells r anti cuz they never miss a chance to bash snsd and they use the excuse that they r fans and are just ctricing them when they are not they use that to cover up there hate i dont care if they disagree but they ppl like them should have the decetcy to if they say nothing nice they should say nothing at all and stop saying they r fans when they arent and stop bullying sones ppl say hueysa and dumbells like one or two members of snsd but just because dumbells stans seohyun and huey stans hyoyeon and jessica dont mean that they arent antis it means she only stans one person and hates the other she is not a sone either and that is a anti. dorsnt mean there sones and like snsd that doesnt erase there hate for them either cuz they never miss a article to bash them. i have been a sone ever since ytma so i know a anti when i see one and huey and dumbells are us sones always get bullied and disgriminated against here almost every thing we say when bashing a snsd anti when they bash snsd gets downvoted flagged and deleted most ppl here are yg stans so u wouldnt know we are the minority put yourselves in our shoes

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  25. Everybody who's not familiar with how terrible and difficult trainee life is should watch this documentary BBC did with Nine Muses. It really exposes the disgusting, seedy underbelly of the industry. It really became clear to me how important it is to support idols through thick and thin, after watching this.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PStaWsj9xsQ


    When you first got into it, K-pop seemed like such a polished, happy thing...didn't it?

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  26. You can trust JYPE~ yoo.

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  27. i cant believe nb banned us all we did was protect snsd from the haters and ppl always find ways to demean us and never want us to be happy and let snsd and sones be becuz snsd is the top girl group. we were just giving a accurate award show and being honest on who are the hater on nb and who are not ppl like dumbells and huey_ss get to have honest opinions so why cant us???? nb is so bias and almost everyone is a snsd hater ppl on nb is bias because every time someone is defending snsd you ppl think that were automatically trolling ppl like huey and dumbells r anti cuz they never miss a chance to bash snsd and they use the excuse that they r fans and are just ctricing them when they are not they use that to cover up there hate i dont care if they disagree but they ppl like them should have the decetcy to if they say nothing nice they should say nothing at all and stop saying they r fans when they arent and stop bullying sones ppl say hueysa and dumbells like one or two members of snsd but just because dumbells stans seohyun and huey stans hyoyeon and jessica dont mean that they arent antis it means she only stans one person and hates the other she is not a sone either and that is a anti. snt mean there sones and like snsd that doesnt erase there hate for them either cuz they never miss a article to bash them. i have been a sone ever since ytma so i know a anti when i see one and huey and dumbells are us sones always get bullied and disgriminated against here almost every thing we say when bashing a snsd anti when they bash snsd gets downvoted flagged and deleted most ppl here are yg stans so u wouldnt know we are the minority put yourselves in our shoes

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  28. lol no entertainment industry are always dirty regardless where it come from..

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  29. You'll never know. The bigger the industry the more this kind of things happening. And korean isn't as big as china and America

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  30. GO FUCK YOURSELF WITH A CHAINSAW JFC

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  31. wow you r rude andd the perfect example of nb full of haters

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  32. No. Korean entertainment inddustry is dirtier than Chinese one ( included Hongkong, mainland China and Taiwan) , Thai and Japan...

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  33. i cant believe nb banned us all we did was protect snsd from the haters and ppl always find ways to demean us and never want us to be happy and let snsd and sones be becuz snsd is the top girl group. we were just giving a accurate award show and being honest on who are the hater on nb and who are not ppl like dumbells and huey_ss get to have honest opinions so why cant us???? nb is so bias and almost everyone is a snsd hater ppl on nb is bias because every time someone is defending snsd you ppl think that were automatically trolling ppl like huey and dumbells r anti cuz they never miss a chance to bash snsd and they use the excuse that they r fans and are just ctricing them when they are not they use that to cover up there hate i dont care if they disagree but they ppl like them should have the decetcy to if they say nothing nice they should say nothing at all and stop saying they r fans when they arent and stop bullying sones ppl say hueysa and dumbells like one or two members of snsd but just because dumbells stans seohyun and huey stans hyoyeon and jessica dont mean that they arent antis it means she only stans one person and hates the other she is not a sone either and that is a anti. snt mean there sones and like snsd that doesnt erase there hate for them either cuz they never miss a article to bash them. i have been a sone ever since ytma so i know a anti when i see one and huey and dumbells are us sones always get bullied and disgriminated against here almost every thing we say when bashing a snsd anti when they bash snsd gets downvoted flagged and deleted most ppl here are yg stans so u wouldnt know we are the minority put yourselves in our shoes

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  34. Yeah, people should give more of a chance to groups from smaller companies. Some of them are hidden gems like EXID and even their brother group C-Clown.

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  35. Why is this even allowed??? Are there no laws to prevent this? It's basically child prostitution! Companies that do this filthy crap to their trainee's are pieces of sh*t.

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  36. Go masturbate with your SNSD lightsick and cut it out with the spamming.

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  37. I'm scared to even think if this is going on with my bias groups

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  38. Reveal everything and I hope the government can at least try to do sth about it. It's sad to see what they're "willing" to do in order to debut but in the end their success is not even guaranteed..

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  39. It's disgusting that this is even allowed to continue. There are a lot of shady companies in the industry that do this or worse e.g open world entertainment. Playing on peoples hopes and dreams of debuting ... its sad.

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  40. It's sad that reality is just like that... That trainees have hope and think they can eventually make it but they are just being used in the most disgusting way...

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  41. my friend's a trainee in a company and i'm honestly worried for him even though he's a guy.. he hasn't contacted me for a few months now...

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  42. So basically they take young girls, i'm assuming it's mostly girls, and traffick them.

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  43. But I don't understand why thhey do this though.
    Taking sexual pleasure from vulnerable young people is the most disgusting thing one can even think about, let alone attempt.
    I guess this is just a hidden yet common aspect of the entertainment industry...

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  44. tbh, i dont know why they agreed to this show...it makes them look bad. Some of them really can't sing T.T

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  45. um at least they don't worship Satan like Celebs here in the west do.

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  46. If I ever get my hand on one of them!

    https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQL2Bqf86d5tJQBfflqkCpnmH1ShVxhdzI2ZhJgRFHAvwLm2i_Z

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  47. Casting couch happens in every industry.

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  48. Why is it that if there is a growing awareness of trafficking in the entertainment industry there in't also growing reports of small entertainment companies being investigated and shut down for coersing, manipulating and forcing young people into performing sexual acts and arresting not only the people selling the trainees for sexual favours but also the scumbags that use the trainees for sexual favours? Where is Korea's police force in this? As soon as it gets out into the public conciousness they kinda have to start acting.

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  49. such a Narrow-minded comment

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  50. If I ever get my hands on one of them!

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  51. This is simply disgusting.

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  52. I guess it's time for punishment! *_*


    https://31.media.tumblr.com/b5778592e6a9037033b11fea6178c55e/tumblr_nhyduzoY4I1tf7ru4o2_400.gif

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  53. sad but some people did think that way

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  54. This is absolutely disgusting. I assume this applies to any country's entertainment industry...but I have a feeling it is dirtier in Korea. I mean, do Hollywood actors/actresses even get these kind of "sponsors"?

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  55. i cant believe nb banned us all we did was protect snsd from the haters like hueyss and dumbells ppl on nb find ways to demean us sones cuz most ppl here are yg stans and they are jelous cuz snsd is the top girl group

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  56. you'll never know.. just because we are more exposed to Korean doesn't mean other country aren't as dirty as Korean entertainment.

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  57. Did you guys heat about Ke$ha though?
    There had been allegations that her manager had been abusing her physically, sexually and verbally, and he even forced her to take class A drugs.
    Here's the full story:
    http://m.hollywoodreporter.com/entry/view/id/747707

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  58. Well they get Satan so...

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  59. this is so disgusting ...
    btw one more disgusting news is about KHJ returning with a Japanese album :| dear NB is there any news about him?? :|

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  60. The thing about rapists and abuser is they don't do it for sexual pleasure, what gets them off is the control aspect.They're sadists and take pleasure in subjugating someone who is weaker,it makes them feel powerful

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  61. lol again? We already told u that Dumbells and Huey_ss aren't antis. Dumbells is a seo stan and Huey is a hyo and Sica stan they arent antis they are what you call akgaes
    So your rant is irrelevant and your protecting snsd frim literally nothing

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  62. do they really worship satan? not trying to be offensive or what, I just need some explanation..

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  63. I know that his ex gf forgive him and take back her report but I thought he would at least reflect himself?

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  64. i cant believe nb banned us all we did was protect snsd from the haters like hueyss and dumbells ppl on nb find ways to demean us and will never let sones and snsd happy ppl on here can comment honestly so why cant us sones comment honestyly to sones cuz most ppl here are yg stans and they are jelous cuz snsd is the top girl group

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  65. Where are you getting this info from? Are you part of the Korean industry lmfao? Corruption is not exclusive to Korea. There have been multiple scandals in Hollywood and the US music market of sexual assault, bullying, exploitation etc. as well as in the Japanese market, the SE Asian, the Latin America etc etc. Everywhere and anywhere in the world there will be young naive teens who want to be stars and dirty fucking terrible people ready to exploit their dreams and commit awful and horrendous crimes against them.

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  66. I doubt YG's people really know and understand what illuminati is. I bet they only think that as a trend.. follower.

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  67. corruption is every where

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  68. his die-hard fans will tell u bcuz the gf made up those evidence and falsely accuse him. smh

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  69. i cant believe nb banned us all we did was protect snsd from the haters like hueyss and dumbells ppl on nb find ways to demean us sones cuz most ppl here are yg stans and they are jelous cuz snsd is the top girl group

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  70. This is disgusting and awful. Those poor trainees....:/

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  71. What about the boy trainees? :|

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  72. I'm horrified. Just too disgusting to process in my brain.

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  73. you should look up 'Bryan Singer sex assault' and 'Terry Richardson Predator'..

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  74. ban this bitch again please.

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  75. Do give me examples of YG being illuminati

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  76. they are treated as bad as the girl http://blog.koreaboo.com/post/98011332508/report-interview-with-male-ex-trainee-who-was

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  77. people believe illuminati?

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  78. us sones are constantly discriminated against on this site to we get bashed hated on flagged and downvoted for no reason at all just because were sones

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  79. Infinite, B1A4, BTS, EXID, or VIXX are talanted groups tho.. Emh, maybe except Seungyeol.. I'm more curious about how Dream Tea ent pick the trainees.. :|

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  80. ikr and hueyss is black and you expect her and bjs since most of them r black to to understand how were discriminated

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  81. Isn't illuminati outdated already?

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  82. Kind of. I remember Megan Fox talking about that, how they offered her to audition for a job but when she went there it was something else. Also there is Lana del Rey that literally fucked her way up to the top. Sorry for grammar mistakes.

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  83. https://33.media.tumblr.com/d1dc05a2a2ca3571e61d28453e1165c5/tumblr_mfvrh5EIT21qkiilno5_250.gif

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  84. duh,can't believe we're in the same fandom.you're embarassing me.

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  85. https://31.media.tumblr.com/f445fffda2ce7dfadda3a5682c056c09/tumblr_inline_movksguSgz1qz4rgp.gif

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  86. Oh god.. the entertainment industry really is fucked up. Even tho the between boys and girls are equally the same but that's just horrible

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  87. stop embarrassing yourself, this spamming session with the same message has to end, they're not antis.

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  88. who else in dream tea besides girls day? Woolim treats Infinite well, from what I can see. Big Hit too.. not sure about B1A4 and EXID co. but from what i can see Jellyfish manage VIXX well.. plus, they are their first idol group, right?

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  89. no wonder everyone wants to go to YG or SM. In the end whether u like them or not they are big enough that they dony need it, while smaller companies need to do go knows what to get on music show or whatever

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  90. WM treats B1A4 well I think, they let them since the very beginning to be creative and take part in their songs, I think they manage them well.

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  91. I'm just thinking about Hyeri though...
    She's so popular yet she doesn't really have much talent to showcase

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  92. why single out just Sungyeol, there are members in the other groups you mentioned who I wouldn't call that talented either -__-

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  93. THEY ARE GOING TO IMMORTAL SONG 2???? FOR REAL???

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  94. glad to know that.. tho i never follow B1A4 activities I just hope every idols are treated well

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  95. fans can be so ignorant sometimes.. that's why people like him are doing well out there..

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  96. Wata Shame! Sooo disgusting~

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  97. acknowledging that something exists is not enough, we all know about that one way or another, something should be done regarding that

    i have no hope in korea's law system, but i wish that something can be done socially or in a moral level..

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  98. Yeah, I feel the same, I don't really know about other smaller agencies but I hope they treat their idols well. However I know about WM, since I follow B1A4 from the very beginning (even though now that I am nearly 21 it's a bit different from when I was 17 and I knew like everything about them and about their current activities lol), so I know they are treated well, I'm really happy they got the popularity they deserved :)

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  99. yeah I guess that's they are so eager to be in the big company

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  100. https://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc98wusV0x1rjx0euo1_500.gif

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  101. That is the reason why these companies cannot operate fully outside of Asia. It is all well and good to have international fans who like their idols but if this is ever made more public globally they will be simply no one will take the music industry seriously.

    It is incredulous what they do...unbelievable. I can't see this going on in top agencies as they have too much to loose.

    This takes me back to ZE:A's Junyoung and what he planned to reveal about the Star Empire agency.

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  102. That's not the point though.
    Bigger agencies can still make 'pleasure groups' from less talented trainees just to sexually satisfy superior figures without getting anything back.
    It doesn't always have to do with getting into music shows.

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  103. Lol some of the Chinese,Hong Kong and Taiwanese top stars had sponsors too. If you understand mandarin, then you can read this.There are some pictures too.
    So every entertainment industry is dirty.

    http://roll.sohu.com/20140612/n400740010.shtml

    http://www.china.com.cn/info/2013-10/01/content_30185096_2.htm

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  104. I used to think tshit treat BAP well..


    used to...

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  105. Can you pls stop. Its 2015 already~

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  106. my babies :(
    please support their comeback #DRAMA #9MUSES2015

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  107. Well that's what I think, I mean what else can explain how much satanic symbolism the all the top stars have been using from Beyonce to Kesha, like I could understand if it was like one or two or three crazy celebs but like it's ALL of them.

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  108. Or the closeted married sponsor, more likely.

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  109. You guys know what this means right? If even one word slips out of any entertainment companies that use these methods they will totally be bankrupt literally by the next minute due to all the backlash that can and will occur. But I don't see this happening with the Big 3 (SM/JYP/YG) or even the second-tier companies after them like CUBE since they have too much at stake to be trying this kind of stunt but we can never truly know what happens behind closed doors or any company's dark past secrets.

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  110. http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/107/432/i_hug_that_feel.png

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  111. What's the story about Lana Del Rey? I know the Megan Fox one but never heard of anything shady regarding Lana.

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  112. Same goes to sm

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  113. Not long ago a male traniee said something about providing sexual services :(

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  114. Thanks god all this dirty stuff in the entertainment industry is finally coming to light.

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  115. It sucks that this is considered a necessary part of the industry...

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  116. I think I've read somewhere, Open World Entertainment taking sexual abuse to their male trainee ..

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  117. 1. [+45, -2] This is why they say the entertainment industry is dirty...
    2. [+27, -1] That's so cruel... they're probably thinking that they'll become celebrities one day too
    yes, that's horrible. it's sad how it happens everywhere.


    http://i2.wp.com/bigbangupdates.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/tumblr_mekfl4T55y1rkdo5xo1_500.jpg

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  118. when it comes to company I used to only care about JYPE since well you can say I'm a JYPstan and also YG and SM.. but over the time I started to pay attention to other company like ts, bighit, woolim, cube, jellyfish etc because I have my bias group in each company.. its' good to see when your fav group are treated well by the company.. well except in this case ts which i don't expect to come but yeah we never know until the artist itself take the courage to bring justice to themselves..


    may I know who else in WM?

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  119. If you need a laugh

    http://vigilantcitizen.com/tag/k-pop/

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  120. Hollywood has their own pedo ring, google about the guy that made victorious, icarly, zoe 101 and add the word pedo

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  121. The third comment. NS Yoon-G is underrated. Good voice, pretty face, nice body, graduated from UCLA. I wonder why she's not popular.

    https://f068902687a767e5555715349272eff53d3598de.googledrive.com/host/0By2VUjSOuusuRUZNNzduTlUxZ0k/nsyoong1-3.gif

    https://24.media.tumblr.com/7165614e29f3fb675afacad61d63f624/tumblr_n2weblIq4b1tp2ysqo2_500.gif

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  122. & scary~

    https://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lya1kkuC1A1qhyrma.gif

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  123. yes Block B too.


    http://en.korea.com/blockb/files/2012/05/428537_369229469792931_66953926_n.jpg

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  124. Lana Del Rey said she slept with influential people, managers, etc., but she also said that this didn't bring her anything

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  125. God I'm so sick of how using a gif to explain yourself has become the thing on NB. Do you realise how stupid and out of place gifs with gaping faces look on serious articles about exploitation like this.
    How about we all use our keyboards and type our opinions for once?

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  126. Im most disgusted at the fact that they don't even debut them!
    They are keeping them onky to provide services and may be the trainees are coping with it thinking they are going to debut

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  127. Or you do anything because of desperation.
    Its Korea after all. Both korea.

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  128. She said in an interview.

    http://www.nme.com/news/lana-del-rey/78733

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  129. YG worship Satan? Where? Comeback again when they are capable of getting to Black metal level.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTQVVS0pFn0

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  130. mte
    why would they allow to be shown in a bad light ?

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  131. Infinite worked so hard and they're as popular as idols from big companies.

    http://38.media.tumblr.com/fbdfa49d90cf52dada01abe1f3ddcf7c/tumblr_mf9dx5lrZH1rw6lkno5_500.gif

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  132. 4. [+16, -0] I was a trainee at a small agency for three years and I had to give up my dreams after realizing how dirty everything was. At our company, the trainees were divided into 'effort group' and 'practice group'. The people at the company called the effort group unnis the 'pleasure group'. Now that I think about it, I think that group was to provide sexual favors. They'd always say they had to check clothes fits and sizes and dress them in skimpy clothing and take them somewhere every weekend. The industry's dirty.

    D:

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  133. I'd rather never ever became a celebrity than have to provide sexual bullshit activity.
    There's still a lot of works we can do out there.. why forcing something that you know is not for you?
    the company is psycho and is in fault, but the trainee is in fault too since they keep silent about it and do it in order to become famous one day.

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  134. Gurl, all 3 of my bias groups imploded last year (fx, EXO-M and B.A.P), I'm suspicious of everything now.

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  135. She's graduated from UCLA? Woooww.. i wonder why she choose to become a singer instead :/

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  136. Just curious but why did you think that? I've been a BAP fan for a while now and most BABYz hated how TS worked them like dogs

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  137. That's like force-prostitution that's just gross and wrong, I feel bad for everyone that has been cast into an agency and they are hopeful to debut when they're only being used to be kicked out later, man that's disgusting gives me the chills

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  138. TT___TT our Yang Grandpa!!! I miss u much!!!

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  139. Couch casting, ugh. Makes me feel sick reading and knowing about it.

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  140. my korean friend who has many trainee friends told me males actually do it more, bc there's no risk of pregnancy..........

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  141. waiting4indiansummerJanuary 10, 2015 at 7:06 AM

    you can never be too sure abt the big companies, ppl always just assume bcuz they have enough money n reputation to not resort to that so called, but really.......you never know unless you're really in that world.

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  142. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casting_couch

    "In a 1996 interview, actor Woody Harrelson declared "every [acting] business I ever entered into in New York seemed to have a casting couch ... I've seen so many people sleep with people they loathe in order to further their ambition."
    "In 2003, Italian actress Asia Argento stated that Hollywood producers expect oral sex from young starlets in exchange for roles"
    "At a 2005 class reunion, producer Chris Hanley told his former
    classmates that "almost every leading actress in all of [his] 24 films has slept with a director or producer or a leading actor to get the part that launched her career".
    "In August 2012, actress Julie Delpy spoke out about casting-couch paedophiles in France in the 1980s."
    "In October 2012, filmmaker Ben Fellows published claims that the casting couch was rife in the worlds of British television, theatre and advertising when he worked as a child actor and model in the 1980s. He claimed "the problem is both institutional and systemic in the entertainment industry."
    "In 2013, Myleene Klass stated that, "I don’t think there’s a single person in the entertainment industry that hasn’t, at some point, experienced the casting couch thing". Earlier, in 2010, she revealed a major Hollywood star wanted to sign a sex contract with her."
    "A typical “casting couch” case occurred in India in 2004, when
    actress Preeti Jain filed a police complaint alleging that film director Madhur Bhandarkar had sexually exploited her for many years and made false promises to cast her in a lead role in his next film. She stated that she was never given any role in any of his films."


    It's definitely everywhere.
    And not just in the entertainment industry either.

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  143. fact is in big company u dont really have to have that big talent to debut. which is obvous from some SM idol

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  144. "The trainee is in fault too"? Can you not with the victim blaming? Some trainees probably have no choice. They're forced or coerced to giving sexual services

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  145. being part of a big company is really tough too; whilst it does mostly come with success after debut, trainees have to deal with being a small fry for years and years and can even have it amount to nothing when theyre being kicked out solely for inadequacy. not sure about the validity of this but my friend told me sm had a clause about "giving up their body" (can be for plastic surgery as well) in their trainee contract and they have contacts in the mafia to ensure that trainees never reveal any of this :///

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  146. It's not allowed. The thing is, people have to say something. The kids who have a real chance of debuting won't speak up because it's "not their business" and they don't want to get on the higher ups bad side. The people who get abused won't say things for an even larger number of reason. They WANT to be some type of celebrity and were told this was the only way. They can't say anything if they want these people to help them debut. Not to mention the whether they are a witness of abuse or abused, once they speak up they will be finished. Their prospects for another job will be in the hole, they will definitely be done in the entertainment industry, and the chances that a fair punishment will be given to the abusers(if one is given at all) are slim to none.

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  147. Someone had to expose it and I think it's important that it happened, could have been any group but I think they have practiced hard since then (probably still under these bad conditions :(( ) and they got a lot better since then even with member changes and everything, I wish they were under a different agency

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  148. S.Korea loves porn.Many of their girls becoming webcam girls and prostitute in japan,australia and america.S.Korea rated as one of the country that loves to watch porn

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  149. Well duh. Happens in small and big companies. When groups don't make it and can't afford to pay the companies back what did people think happened. Even in big companies they put a lot of money into them and take a lot of money. A lot of them have sponsors on the side.

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  150. there is something that is needed to help this teenager that are conned to doing this disgusting stuff just to have a dream come true. I wished more effort to catch entertainment CEO that does this existed. no one deserve to be treated that way.

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  151. i don't understand,if traniee don't have talent how thme t

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  152. in S.korea.have talent = get into debut
    didn't have talent(girls) = been sent to japan to become AV idols or put into prostitution
    didn't have talent(guys) = become a slave or get bullied

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  153. Either way it's still disgusting.. :@

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  154. It's like there's no hope anymore ._.

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  155. It's maybe not as dirty as Hollywood/Jews/Alan Dershowitz that keep Eastern European sex slaves for years basically as currency but this is one of the times you have to stop and understand how the biases that the Koreans have get formed.

    When you read all those things about "levels" and Knetizens ragging on idols versus actresses etc you understand that Koreans' bigotry towards idols comes from the fact that the idol industry is extremely dirty. The entire industry has its roots in girls "playing" for GIs during the War and Occupation, in girls singing in yankee bars and clubs and that's why until very recently (like the past 20 years) being an idol was synonymous with prostitution.

    Not only prostitution but like in Japan especially and also strongly in the US, the music industry has very close ties to organized crime. Every label has a "sponsor" and most every label's seed money comes from shady places. That's why past dictators like Park routinely went around and shut down the Western music industry in Korea in the 60s, and other industries like the martial arts industry supposedly tied to triads and organized crime in the 70s

    They've cleaned up gayo incredibly and it's nothing like it used to be, but like the entertainment industry in general it's still shady. A generation ago you couldn't even get a girl from a decent family who had a chance to go into college into the industry. Now you get INTO college because you're in the industry. Probably in another 10 years gayo will be cleaner than the other parts of Korean society.

    This doesn't go just to the idol industry. It goes to other biases like mixed kids. From 1950 to 1980 something like 500,000 women in Korea worked as prostitutes for American servicemen in a country of 50 million.... and that's because in the 50s and 60s people were literally starving, kids didn't have shoes and there was literally no other way to make ends meet. The first place we as Americans look is race and racism but it's sociological. Until the AFC of '97, pretty much 99% of any mixed kids people would see on the streets were kids left behind by servicemen and most all the women you'd see with a black or white dude were hangers-on around US bases (bars etc) if not straight up professional girlfriends. The more you learn about this stuff the more you realize why the Koreans are crazy like they are and amazed how much things have changed in the past 20 years. Total 180 in literally most areas in society

    No one in Korea is going to be shocked by the accusations in this article. Because most Koreans until this current generation couldn't have thought worse about the idol industry

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  156. ....did you even read my comment?

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  157. Yes, first I also knew about the big companies, then slowly my attention turned to smaller groups and companies haha :)
    Currently they are the only group, but this year they will debut a girl group, I am really looking forward to it and hope that the girls will be just as loveable and good kids like B1A4, I really-really hope so!

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  158. Okay no need for that

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  159. well it's just a logical thinking.. :)
    if they don't want to do it, they should out from that company instead (like knetz said in one of comment)
    Or, If they're forced to do it (without their concern) and can't do anything about it, they should report it to the police or even to the lawyer.
    I know i don't really know about their problems, but i believe there's a choice for every single thing.
    And don't you think before someone trained into some company, they usually have something such as "contract agreement"??
    If that trainee feel burdened by the contract, they shouldn't sign it at the first place. In other hand, if the company do the bad things to them, they should use the contract as an evidence in terms of law.
    well, this is indeed hard thing to do tho..

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  160. I'm both curious and creeped out.

    I wonder which of my faves was in the pleasure group..

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  161. This is not surprising. Happens literally in every entertainment industry in the world. That is why if you plan to be a kpop star, please please aim for the big 3....or at least the top 5. Yes it's much more difficult to get recruited but at least there is less chance of these shady stuff happening.

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  162. Rumour has it that sm used to have business on the side (trainees for prostitution) i didnt know how true that was

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  163. 'Bc there's no risk of pregnancy'
    Are these people fucking serious?

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  164. They definitely do. Rumour has it that the "Room 23" coffee-table book was basically a catalogue of available C-listers that Diana Jenkins (creator of the series) pimped out to wealthy.

    Quoting directly from this ONTD post about Hayden Panetierre (one of the actresses Diana Jenkins allegedly pimped out):

    "I am a FORMER personal "friend" of a woman named Diana Jenkins. Doubt you know her, but she's the Rosetta Stone of every scandal and perversion from Hwood all over the globe. She's an Uber-wealthy divorcee whose hubby ran UK’s Barclay's bank - and she ran the Arab investors for the bank! She's been running a high class call girl/party-girl ring for Arabs, Wall Street, DC, Royals, and Hollywood elites. She's also a MAJOR philanthropist, arts supporter, political donor, and social hostess to EVERYONE. Her best Hwood pals include Sean Penn, Clive Davis, Ari Emanuel, George Clooney, Cindy Crawford, and her 'little pet' named Hayden. Diana is the connector of wealthy Arabs and Asians with Hwood actresses/models."

    - http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/67069498.html

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  165. I remember watching that.
    I had so much respect for Ryu Sera afterwards as she seemed as the only intellectual member. The others were just stuck in their own world.

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  166. no wonder people would kill to get in a big agency just to avoid that

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  167. I don't think it's that easy for them to just leave or report it to the police. They owe money to the company for training expenses so they'll have to pay that plus the fines if they leave. Reporting sexual abuse to the police also isn't easy for victims bcs police don't take sexual abuse cases seriously & they'll be stigmatized their whole lives. As for the contract issue, these trainees are literally nobodies when they come into the company so if they refuse to sign the contract then the company can just sign the next girl in line bcs these trainees aren't on an equal position with the company to negotiate a "fair" contract. Idk it seems pretty naive to think there's a choice for everything bcs sometimes that's just not the case

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  168. literally praying that none of my bias groups have to go through with this bcs it's just so wrong

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  169. Sadly its true, it's one of those instances where something is against the law but not enforced, not surprising as Korea has such a lax system to begin with.

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  170. Honestly I don't understand why there are more trainees Korea is full of idols and new groups debut every day and fail.
    I think they should know that when they are lack of talent and stop while they can.
    I don't think that all of the companies dress them and drag them to do that. But that doesn't mean I agree wuth this.
    I believe that the trainees and the company at fault.

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  171. Sad but true, I doubt there's any entertainment industry that's free of it. :/

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  172. I am sorry but, do you mean "afraid"?

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  173. lol they will use homage as the answer lolll

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  174. And then theres this whole prostitution is illegal in SK rant... this whole "closing deals" thing reminds me of the "2nd round" thing that happened in Misaeng where the deals are closed after the company provide the client "entertainment" with girls... aside from being prostitution, most agencies deal with kids that are like 11+ years old... horrible... this happens everywhere but it looks like with the idol mania more and more kids knock on the wrong door and then not doing a thing to not be judged :(

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  175. Me too i'm happy when BTS finally gets a little recognition. Small companies' boy & girl groups are too underrated. I will continue supporting those from small companies rather than those from the big companies because i don't know, i just want underdogs to win every now and then to inspire at least one person.

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  176. How untalented must you be not to debut lmfao. Some idol groups have the most useless members that aren't even great visual

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  177. where can i hear this copycat track?

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  178. Also Acube and Apink! Cube was not that prominent of a company back then.

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  179. It's not just Korea. It's basically every entertainment industry in the world. It's an open secret that entertainment is closely linked with crime and the underground.

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  180. You know what sucks about that? Once it comes out so and so company used trainees for sponsors, you start looking at those who debuted wondering if at some point they didn't have to provide sexual favors. It tarnishes everybody.

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  181. Is it weird that I am attracted to this ahjussi?

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  182. But wasnt the trainee already credited the choreographer??

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  183. I wonder if SM ever takes their 'godlike' idols or trainees to norelbangs to entertain some baldie fat motjerfuckers

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  184. And you just had to single out Sungyeol didn't you? :)
    It's not like he's not putting in effort to improve, he's mentioned it many times and has been stressed because of people calling him talentless, he proved himself with Infinite F and people still yapping sourceless shit, but whatever.

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  185. Macarons & Sakura TeaJanuary 10, 2015 at 8:47 AM

    The sad and harsh reality. Jang Ja Yeon came to mind who was recently adjudged by the Court to be sexually exploited, a major factor in her depression that ultimate led to suicide.

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  186. whatever, as long as the movie good.

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  187. 4. [+25, -0] Three things Koreans never do: praise someone/something, admit to a mistake, apologize ㅋㅋㅋ

    THISSS LOL

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  188. Well yeah I agree it's not impossible to stand up to the company which is why it's nice that more idols stood up to their companies last year. It just must not be easy for the trainees especially if this is their dream & they're being abused so we can't easily blame them.

    Yup I got your point of view so I guess we'll just agree to disagree :) and yeah I hope something's done so this doesn't keep happening

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  189. kind of makes you feel better about not buying much kpop stuff

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  190. I wonder about that too, but the flashy life of idols was seriously blinding.
    I mean, who doesn't want to dress in fancy clothes and perfect makeup, plus being able to have many fans that will worship you everywhere you go. Not to mention, these fans will give you everything for free.
    Also these trainees are very young, they must be dreaming about being idols every night in their dreams.

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  191. I guess but if it happens in too many industries it becomes difficult for women especially to have careers without being asked to do something they shouldn't have to do to get a job. It's still good to stop this even if the girls can technically quit the agency if they don't like it.

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  192. Chance at big money, tough job market, really high academic standards. If you're really poor or can't make it academically, idol life could be a good opportunity

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