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Tuesday, January 27, 2015

New report shows happiness in teens has risen but investigations show otherwise


Article: "Happiness in teens has risen" investigations show manipulated results

Source: SBS via Naver

The Ministry of Gender Equality and Family released a report claiming that happiness levels in the teen population have risen 5% in three years. Finding the reports unbelievable (according to a survey taken last year, Korean teens ranked last out of OECD countries in happiness levels), journalists investigated into the issue and found that the MOGEF manipulated the surveys to make the results seem positive.

Investigations found that the MOGEF cut back on the low income population and took a higher percentage of surveys from the mid to high income population, skewing the results from previous years.

1. [+11,281, -74] I knew it was too good to believe. I didn't even believe those results from the start.

2. [+8,325, -58] I pass by playgrounds these days and they're completely empty while academies are brimming with children. I'm worried that kids will forget what it even means to 'play' anymore.

3. [+894, -4] Just how unbelievable were the results that journalists had to investigate them themselves ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ A situation that makes you laugh and cry

4. [+823, -10] Even lying now to make the country's image more positive than it seems ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ what a joke

5. [+736, -9] There's no way that students are any happier ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

6. [+681, -9] Now this is what I call a true journalist, one who uncovers the truth

7. [+587, -10] I'm a high school student ㅋㅋ I'm not happy at all ㅋㅋ

8. [+478, -7] I wonder if there's even a way for teens in this country to be happy

9. [+447, -3] Really, we're resorting to messing with survey results now......

10. [+423, -5] You go to the playgrounds and all you see are the elderly exercising...

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185 comments:

  1. [+8,325, -58] I pass by playgrounds these days and they're completely empty while academies are brimming with children. I'm worried that kids will forget what it even means to 'play' anymore.



    Wow, that is so sad..

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  2. Happiness? More like Happiless.

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  3. 3. [+894, -4] Just how unbelievable were the results that journalists had to investigate them themselves ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ A situation that makes you laugh and cry
    Sad but true

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  4. I feel like stressed out kids that are unhappy are more prone to not give a fuck at all at some point in their lives. We need to fix this.

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  5. I feel like kids in SK really miss out on being kids. So many are brought up to be the best at academics but seems like they miss out on the little things kids should be doing

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  6. Teens have to face so many societal expectations. Even I myself am so sick with worry whenever I think of my future in college or even if I get in. I feel anything but happy, I can relate.

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  7. Never trust the media on so called surveys. Always take with a pinch of salt.

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  8. I'd be the happiest teen anyone had ever seen, if I lived in Korea. School is stressful, yes. And there will always be peer pressure, mhmm. But all you have to do is chillax, or just be like me and not give 2 cents on what anyone has to say.

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  9. 7. [+587, -10] I'm a high school student ㅋㅋ I'm not happy at all ㅋㅋ



    this is just so sad..
    the fact that they can easily say they're unhappy and think that it's so.. normal.
    all of those upvotes that are sowing agreement...

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  10. THEN UR FUTURE WILL BE FUCKED YOU IDIOT.

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  11. . [+8,325, -58] I pass by playgrounds these days and they're completely empty while academies are brimming with children. I'm worried that kids will forget what it even means to 'play' anymore.



    Speechless~ School is a place where you can Have fun & make friends~ But for them its a burden.

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  12. Parents in Korea expect their kids to be good,or even great at everything,it’s just too mjch pressure,i don’t know how they can handle it

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  13. Just wondering, but why do you think Korean teachers are abusive?

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  14. I think I understand what Korean teenagers go through, I spent my whole life focusing on school and neglecting other parts of my life that now I feel like my only reason to live is to achieve academic success and I have no idea what is out there other than that.

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  15. Yeah, didn't get that part either.

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  16. Care to explain how?

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  17. 2. [+8,325, -58] I pass by playgrounds these days and they're completely empty while academies are brimming with children. I'm worried that kids will forget what it even means to 'play' anymore.

    ...that...thats depressing

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  18. In Korea, corporal punishment is not illegal in school.

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  19. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw6mOLW8Gnc

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  20. l a l a happiness

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  21. FruitspunchsamuraiJanuary 27, 2015 at 4:42 PM

    Yeah, at least we got enjoy ourselves as kids but it's as if none of them ever heard the word play or freedom before. Sad really.

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  22. Yeah, sadly this happens everywhere. Not just Korea.

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  23. 9. [+447, -3] Really, we're resorting to messing with survey results now.....


    Seriously, that was my question. Why would the ministry manipulate survey results on Teen Happiness? This must be some kind of major issue then. If they are worried so much about teen happiness, why don't they enact new policies to make teens happier, instead of just covering it up with fake data?

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  24. 8. [+478, -7] I wonder if there's even a way for teens in this country to be happy

    maybe kids that like kpop are happy kkk
    i dont consider my life thaaaaaaaaaat good but my bias group can make me happy from time o time.

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  25. IntenseFeelings_UglySobbingJanuary 27, 2015 at 4:44 PM

    I like Korea but I would never chose to grow up there. I couldn't imagine living in a place where your grade is more important than you and your well being. Terrible. I can't imagine the stress students face there.

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  26. I can't imagine the stress they go through, i'm in the last year of university, and i was totally devasted over my bad performance in finals, i had all my family telling " it's not worth it", "no one actually looks at your GPA", but i was stressed anyway i lost a LOT of weight, only to understand that actually in the last year your GPA hardely changes -_-.
    I swear i was such a stress-free person that nothing can ruin my day, idk what happend to me this year. I can't imagine having living my life like this from such a young age, totally unbearable!
    I get a knot in my stomach thinking about their lives >~< they really should put laws against over-the-top studing hours.

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  27. i know,,, but korean teachers are pretty strict,,, they are carrying sticks pretty scary tbh..,

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  28. IntenseFeelings_UglySobbingJanuary 27, 2015 at 4:44 PM

    People who are horrible to children are one of the most terrible kind of people.

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  29. Yeahhhhhhhhhh sure easy for you to say. Non koreans always have this false perception that Korea is just like what they see in Kdramas. Hot oppas and romance everywhere. News flash it isn't. Not saying it sucks but sorry to burst your bubble, it ain't wonderland either.

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  30. FruitspunchsamuraiJanuary 27, 2015 at 4:45 PM

    it's sad how most of them

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  31. http://p1.i.ntere.st/d6f743fd235dbaf62894ceb75c4b0957_480.jpg

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  32. IntenseFeelings_UglySobbingJanuary 27, 2015 at 4:45 PM

    Should be, tbh. Corporal punishment can easily become corrupted and abused.

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  33. I think you're generalizing them. It isn't like that, atleast not anymore.

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  34. IntenseFeelings_UglySobbingJanuary 27, 2015 at 4:46 PM

    Yeeeah, you don't know anything about Korea.

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  35. HonestlyI know Korea is a young country and therefore feels a lot more pressure to 'progress' all the time. But this everyday after school club stuff needs to stop. It's a waste of the parents money and just makes kids depressed. Its better to just teach your children the independence to be able to do well for themselves. They can't be lead by teachers in every aspect of their lives. My older brother both went to tuition so much snd they ended up dropping out of Uni. Then my parents couldn't be bothered with me and just let me do whatever and I ended up with the best grades in my graduating year of secondary school because I was able to discipline myself in reaching the goals I wanted to reach. Still I ended up in uni and my good grades counted for nothing. There are a thousand smart kids everywhere. Being independant is the real skill.

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  36. I feel like I woulnd't be able to raise a child in SK
    I know that societies aren't perfect and that theres always competition
    but kids in south korea have sooo much preasure from their parents to be better that the other kids, that the happiness of being a kid is destroyed.
    Find strengh kids`~ so that when you are adults change how things are done for the better!

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  37. And alot of kids prefer to play "online" nowadays instead of "outside"

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  38. when i visited korea just 10 years ago, kids played outside and seemed so happy.. to even read that the playgrounds are empty now makes me so sad.

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  39. IntenseFeelings_UglySobbingJanuary 27, 2015 at 4:49 PM

    The thing about Korea is that it is only recently a rich, developing country. It has happened so fast that their society has yet to catch up with their growing economy. Right now instead of the Government trying to fix that, they're trying to hide it. But it's brought out from the shadows by things like this.

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  40. I remember seeing an 11 year old on hello counsellor talking how her mom forces her to go to various academies (11 academies) and gets back home around 9 and sleeps around 12 o'clock so che can complete her homework.
    As much as i value education there are limits to everything and the academy thing in korea is getting out of hand..

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  41. She probably meant the corporal punishment and how a lot of teachers take it too far. At least that's what came to my mind. Its one of the reasons I don't really like the education system in South Korea.

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  42. I love Korea. I mean culture and paysages are really beautiful. I would love to visit one day, but never NEVER in my life I would want to live there.

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  43. FruitspunchsamuraiJanuary 27, 2015 at 4:51 PM

    I love that quote, really spoke to me.

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  44. Plus if you are being picked on in school it would really feel like hell since you are there for longer hours if you're in the final year I think. They really need to change their school curriculum to make it so that kids aren't staying up till 1 everyday to study. I mean why is it so hard? they can lower the difficulty and it will still make them smart enough to be able to achieve a high status job (doctor, lawyer etc), no level of education needs that unless you are cramming a week or so from an exam.

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  45. You misinterpreted my comment. I know how stressful it is for Korean teens. Trust me. My mom acts like a Korean mom and stressed me out so bad, until I had suicidal thoughts. I just picked up the habit of not caring about what people say and think. Live yo life~ Grades aren't everything to me(altho my behind will get slapped and a beaten for bringing home a C). That's all I was meaning.

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  46. school is where you study, but it's also where you make friends and memories. no worries of taxes and bills. just a carefree life where the most of your stress comes from hw. it shouldn't be all about studying. spend your youthful energy and expand your maturing brain doing something that you want to do.

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  47. you study so hard just to get that high score on your paper which at the end of the day cannot even guarantee you a secure job with a good pay....it's just scary

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  48. The sad thing is: how do we fix this? If a majority of people don't change then nothing will. All we can do is individually change how we act and decide to be better, hoping that people see that and follow suit. Its hard to change the actions and mindset of so many people. We just hope that the next generation does better then the generations before us. That can be said about a lot of problems we face. Children should be allowed to be children. In the past they didn't have that, being forced to work and help that family (i'm talking about during the industrial age and before that) but now, they are allowed to be children, go to school and play. Why are we taking that away? Its not only South Korea that has this problem. We're forcing kids to grow up too fast.

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  49. Weep and ask for help.
    Lean on me with your runny nose.
    Cry when you feel like crying.
    Laugh when you feel like laughing.
    When you’re tearing up with an ugly face,
    I’ll give you a good cry with an uglier face.
    When you’re laughing so hard your stomach hurts,
    I’ll laugh in a louder voice.
    That’s how it should be.
    It’s far better to get dirty while living true to yourself,
    than to throw away yourself and die a clean death.

    Also by Gintoki

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  50. In the end, it's always about the money.

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  51. Even I don't belive this xD

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  52. Pretending that everything is good or the best, is one of the best ways for people with power to keep the shitty status quo.
    So I'm glad that the journalists investigated into that.

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  53. FruitspunchsamuraiJanuary 27, 2015 at 5:03 PM

    I love that one too. Another one that I like is;
    Life is like a soap bubble
    It rides on the wind flying here and there,
    And before you realize it, pop! It's gone
    When it's about to disappear you think
    You could've flown a bit higher
    But by the time, it's already too late

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  54. Kids/teens will continue to be unhappy, as long as parents are being super stressful and ish. It takes a strong person to break free from your parent's control and realize a letter doesn't define who you are. Parents need to chillax~ they should know how stressful it is, considering they were once in our place, mhmm.

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  55. People who hurt childrens deserve a special place in hell

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  56. Adults are the ones to blame at teens unhappiness, they keep telling them you have to study hard to achieve money and success! And they keep saying you have to be a hard worker in school to enter college and university, then you can rest and enjoy. Meanwhile, college and university is another hell. Just be honest and fight over the hard test exams and these questions that 2% answered them while 98% didn't. Actually, I don't think success is to a hard worker student! You can get successful achievement whenever you worked hard.


    A famous author in my country said "I've wrote more than 25 books, do you think that I can save it? Why students should study and memories books their authors doesn't memories??"

    I think Korean obsessed with studying, that's it.

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  57. This is while a lot of teens become celebrities

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  58. Lol, they all thought I didn't know much about Korean culture. Luuling

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  59. Children right now (not just in Korea) don't actually know the meaning of learning.
    If you ask a teenager for its definition, they'd instantly state that it's about reading off what's in textbooks and it's the key to a 'successful life'.
    Well they're wrong!
    Learning is all about understand the beauty of many aspects in society and being able to know how to express your individuality happily and gracefully. But educational systems are making the young enter a shallow and close-minded system that is not suited for every individual, and resulting in mass depression since particular students feel they're too dumb for general life.
    Well I say fuck that! Fuck your academics! Fuck your perspective of education, bust mostly fuck you society for sucking out the unique personality of the young so that they adhere to your bourgeoisie mindset! Just fuck everything!

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  60. "3. [+894, -4] Just how unbelievable were the results that journalists had to investigate them themselves ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ A situation that makes you laugh and cry"


    after watching pinocchio

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  61. "Just how unbelievable were the results that journalists had to investigate them themselves"

    Seriously. This is sad.

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  62. WTF, is she even a human ???????

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  63. 7. [+587, -10] I'm a high school student ㅋㅋ I'm not happy at all ㅋㅋ


    The only things I was happy about in high school are my friends and food.
    Between family's expectations, your grades, homeworks and projects and whatever problem you face you feel like you have no time for anything and you just feel unhappy.

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  64. This video made my heart hurt... How could that woman be so violent to a poor kid.

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  65. The fear of failure and disappointing one's family is overwhelming at times.
    That kind of stress starts from an early age and is lifelong. I know it. I live with it everyday.

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  66. I can't even do simple math anymore, but can easily work a five-step complex equation~

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  67. Korea has serious educational problem .. i mean they went to school at 8am and comes home back at does that even make sence?? .the parents makes elementary going kids go to various unnecessary academics. .. Seriously the suicide rate among teenagers are really high .. and so is the smoking .. I'm seriously worried about this kids

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  68. My child I shall introduce you to manga, anime and video games :)

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  69. this has to change, and it starts with parents first.

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  70. Don't strive for happiness , you won't get it. Be content and strive to improve yourself

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  71. maybe my comment sounds weird, but koreans has a form to see the problems. and outside korea is very different. i guess they are wrong in many situations, and that's why they are still believing in the fake "t-ara bullying case", when that never happened. at final, very pressed people, with a bad form to see the life.

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  72. probably because of ikon debut and bigbang comeback

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  73. Ministry of Gender Equality and Family: that's a name that inspires confidence.

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  74. They teach nothing useful in schools... I'm sorry but it's like a waste of time, youth... Learning should be beautiful, it's seriously something great, but tell me what's the purpose of learning 350360434321 dates and formulas that you'll forget anyway ? The only purpose in life became money, parents don't care if their kids are unhappy as long as they have good marks which will guarantee them money.
    The reason why people go to the cinema, read books about casual things is because they can't even experience that...
    Just like people who do the same things everyday, I'm sorry I can't call that living...

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  75. It was less stressful in the past... Expectations are going up and kids can't keep up...

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  76. Jenizz | pinkcrownJanuary 27, 2015 at 5:36 PM

    Investigations found that the MOGEF cut back on the low income population and took a higher percentage of surveys from the mid to high income population, skewing the results from previous years.



    Yeah.. that explains it pretty much.


    At least Journalists uncovered the truth.. I wonder why the government isn't doing anything to protect the KIDS from too much stress. Sure SK had to work hard to get the economic up.. but nowadays.. they should just.. idk.. set a limit of 4 after school academics or whatever.. so the KIDS can be KIDS.

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  77. I was happily strolling through my instagram news feed when I had a sudden urge to search for #studygram. all of you should check this hash tag out because you will realise how Koreans study for their college entrance exams. They took photos of their timers which show the total time they took to complete the tasks in their planner, the countdown to d day and stuff.

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  78. This will cause frustration, and just look at the crimes rate that'll go up in the future...

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  79. 3. [+894, -4] Just how unbelievable were the results that journalists had to investigate them themselves ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ A situation that makes you laugh and cry.
    the results most be really bad for them to lie about it.. but they shouldn't lie about things like that.

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  80. people shouldn't be horrible to anyone, no matter the age/gender/race

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  81. I actually asked the question as someone who has attended school in both korea and america actually:) teachers in modern day korea do not use carry around sticks (at least in my experience)... I'm not speaking directly of you, so please don't take offense, but it does annoy me when people generalize koreans as this or that....

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  82. actually, the school curriculum is not that hard, contrary to popular belief... its just that everyone studies super hard, which starts a chain reaction, because in order to get to a good college, you can't just be amazing, you have to be the best out of that amazing group.

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  83. I blame the education system, they're young, they also need have fun no just studying all the day

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  84. It doesn't mean every teacher beats his students, though. Just as the fact that corporal punishment is illegal in America doesn't mean that there aren't teachers there that beat children there.

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  85. https://comn4725blog.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/funny-quote-we-buy-stuff-we-dont-need-with-money-we-dont-have-to-impress-people-we-dont-like.jpg

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  86. I have attended school in Korea, and can say that I have never personally witnessed a physical punishment by a teacher. This was why I was asking, because I think a lot of people have misconceptions of Korean teachers... Like there are many cases of high school teachers in America having sexual affairs with students, (which is illegal, but happens anyways) this does not make all American teachers rapists

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  87. i feel bad for them and really thankful that i don't live there

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  88. Or it could be that different people have different ideas of things that little kids should be doing...? It does make me sad though, because if I hadn't moved to America in elementary school, I would probably be one of those kids

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  89. When you start to value children over childhood that's when things take a turn...

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  90. none taken... i actually based my opinion on a friend i know,,, his teacher applies corporal punishment on him and also his parents.. he became depress actually,,, wanted to commit suicide... its actually depressing,,,

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  91. "7. [+587, -10] I'm a high school student ㅋㅋ I'm not happy at all ㅋㅋ"
    It's so sad cause the situation is really different with me.. high school moment was probably one of my fav moment.. when i was high school i really love to hang out with my friends and how my friends are suprising me on my sweet 16 ..

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  92. It really is.... the only problem being that its impossible to stop the cycle. Everyone tries so hard in academics, so this raises the "average." Because the average is so high, to get into a good college, you have to be far above this already high average, and this basically involves being better than all of your peers, because there are so many good students and so few highly recognized colleges.

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  93. Lol... Only problem is while we fuck everything, others will get so far ahead that we'll end up as hobos on the street or something.... its actually pretty depressing if you think about it.... do what you want now, and increase the risk of an awful future... or be super stressed now, and increase the probability of a more enjoyable future...

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  94. TheMerryGoRoundOfLifeJanuary 27, 2015 at 5:54 PM

    What anime is the picture from?

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  95. lmao that's really sad...

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  96. Gintama
    Great anime with comedy and action

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  97. Far East Asia needs to stop killing its kids with 'STUDY STUDY STUDY OR YOU'RE A FAILURE'. So sad. Actually ALL of Asia should stop.

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  98. Oh fuck, the girl is so little. That stupid fat bitch.

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  99. This is rather sad, I feel like there is a lot of things Korea should change to rise in happiness. Some of the typicals would be lower the cost of collage, make teaching easier & funnier bc I remember once a program that compared our teaching methods/eduction system with Korea & China, and they had it a lot harder, they were wiser when it comes to exams and such, but the program showed when it comes to creativity & having fun my country won by a lot. I feel bad, bc I remember my school days as the funniest time in my life, by enjoying it one learns a lot. Like what my teacher used to say, do you learn it by heart or by brain, as in do you learn it because you want 2 or because you r forced. I feel like Korea should have a little of that mindset to get a happier education system , it will lessen the suicide rate amongs teenagers' also their obsession with beauty, from what I see & hear, ppl r more obsessed with looking perfect then getting into collage, which leads 2 stress.. Idek, just think that Korea should take this serious bc they have one of the highest suicide rate, and it's sad to know that young people can't even enjoy life like one should

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  100. Maybe this is why many teens still want to be idols, even if they're ridiculed by majority of S. Korean population, get in debts with agencies, work hard and have to deal with sasaengs, sometimes even have to run away from home due to parents' disagreement. They just want to find happiness and, well, money. And if you're gonna work your butt off anyway, it's better to be a celebrity than an average working person I guess.
    I understand that education is important, but many countries' education system is so poorly managed, it just makes you think wth was in these adults' heads when they decided on all of that. My country is a total opposite of Korea - no discipline whatsoever, kids will rather find 60000 ways to avoid learning / going to school than actually put in some effort. I remember when I was in middle school and went to visit my elementary school and I heard 11-12 years old kids throwing "fucks" all over the building and I was so shocked, I was only 2-3 years older than them and yet everything changed so mucg from when I was their age, kids were still playing games during break and behaved in civil manner. But when I heard a little kid saying he would "bang me like a bitch" I just lost my fate in humanity.

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  101. +423, -5] You go to the playgrounds and all you see are the elderly exercising... creapy

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  102. I don't think that a 90% chance of being dictated by a stuck up employer is seen as a enjoyable future.

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  103. inserts 2NE1's Happy

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  104. I feel bad for the girl..Look how scared are the other children....How could she do that to a child?!

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  105. I remember watching Dad where are you going and saw Jun (a 3rd grader?) laments over the amount of homework he had and how he have no time to do anything else. And no, he's not a whiny kid but actually very studious and a bookworm. If an elementary school kid feel that way, how must the Korean teens feel?

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  106. I was just in Korea last Oct, and whenever I took a walk around the block, after 9ish to 10ish PM, there're lots of teens and young adults strewned the streets. Most of them just finished classes in school/extra tuition (you know their extra long hour in studying), and still is in their school uniform.
    That was their only time to catch up/play with the real world, but even then it was 'plague' with devices and dating and new fashion trend, gossiping..well, simply trying to be adult.
    Sad thing is, still they have to go back and do homeworks, then study a lil more, then sleep, then wake up early for school.. Those who had to travel are worse.
    Imagine at 10pm, i though the subway may be full with people coming back from work, but no, it was full of students going back and forth.

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  107. The new generation need to rise and break the cycle of bad parenting methods and outdated ideals. Don't do what your parents did to you, to your own children. Yes, education is everything but not like this. What's the point if you have your youth unhappy or wanting to kill themselves?


    It's like everyone is doing things at extreme. In Korea, they go to the extremes with education and study, to the point where it has become a fatal situation. In the US, it's not taken seriously enough/ is to relaxed. When will we all wake up?

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  108. So what.. Korea is not my country

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  109. For those wanting happiness

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  110. Well I know one thing; no one will put their hands on my child but me...But that's just me.

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  111. right. But OP said they may have an abusive teacher, which the next commenter changed to "why do you think Korean teachers are abusive ", which you've changed to "not all teachers!" which is true, but it's like we're playing a game if telephone here. nobody stereotyped all korean teachers!!

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  112. yes, but there a power imbalance when it comes to children. children have less experience and less power to hurt you, so it's the worst way to be a bully. nobody's saying we should be horrible to anyone....obviously. ..

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  113. yeah, there's not point being educated enough to have a successful life if you can't enjoy that life since you've worked yourself to death, or at least depression. they're ruining kids psychological foundations like this.

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  114. hitting a child is never ok. it's just a temporary fix that can have long lasting negative effects.

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  115. im not sure if its banned now but a few years back my cousin in indiana, her school still used a paddle.

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  116. 7. [+587, -10] I'm a high school student ㅋㅋ I'm not happy at all ㅋㅋ



    the downvotes are... sad?

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  117. This comment is so true...apartment complexes build these huge, super cool playgrounds, but you never see the children playing on them. I asked my little Korean host sister if she ever plays on it...but she never has time because of her various academies ㅠ.ㅠ

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  118. Its so upsetting how the little girl only manage to compromise with quitting a couple of academies. I was rooting for her to quit most of them. Her mother wishes for a prodigy child doesn't she? I despise being ignorant and I love learning but I treat it as a hobby. No one should be learning the entire time they're awake.

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  119. 12 am at HUFS (in seoul) campus there are always parents with their children playing, maybe 50 of them...it's the only time they have to play together which was always so sad to me. It was kind of revitalizing to leave the library at 1-2 am and see children playing and it being noisy though so it cheered me up.

    But yeah, there's an obvious problem with our education system and it really does not make sense to have high school be so strenuous and stressful while university is actually quite relaxing in comparison...

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  120. Yeah and corproal punishment is legal and Colorado (USA) but you don't see us being rampant with abusive teachers since no one really does it.
    It's silly to make such a huge conclusion based off something being legal.

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  121. It's sad. Even as a college student like me, I don't feel happy. People around me are getting As and Bs are deemed as a bad grade. Even if I don't seek high grades I have no choice but to be more hardworking and stressed because the competition is so high. I leave house at 7 and return home at 10 practically staying in school to study. I used to think learning was enriching but when people focus on grades and not the process it makes hard for me to enjoy what I'm doing.

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  122. It's sad that know one even talks about the issue of MOGEF lying because they expect it of them.

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  123. "And if you're gonna work your butt off anyway, it's better to be a celebrity than an average working person I guess.I understand that education is important, but many countries' education system is so poorly managed, "


    exactly, this is it!

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  124. this statement is so stupid. wtf are you even bringing up abusive teachers for. if anything the parents are worse.

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  125. more enjoyable than starving on the streets tbh

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  126. Very true... There is a small minority where teachers actually abuse their students but most of the time, teachers will give you small punishments, like the ones in k-dramas XD

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  127. Why PC bangs are so popular in KR.

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  128. somethingsomething1234January 27, 2015 at 8:59 PM

    The first time I glanced through that comment I read academies as arcades, and I was wondering wtf is wrong with video games

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  129. I think tuition is for those who can't concentrate on studying.

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  130. I agree, the society is just so screwed up.I feel like there is so much pressure on people in almost every field of life possible and failure is not forgiven and unacceptable.

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  131. come to the philippines..where people seems to smile even with all the problems...

    oh well, there's not much to lose if you smile even if everything is taken away from you. the only thing that will keep a person going despite all the bad luck is to keep a positive perspective in life and hoping that a better day is going to come

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  132. What an injustice to the students.

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  133. Corporal punishment is determined on a state level, so it could still be legal in Indiana while illegal your state.

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  134. I'm a Korean but I was born and raised in Canada. My mom always talks about how thankful she is to have been able to raise me here thanks to my dad studying here to get his phD here after studying in Korea. Growing up in a Korean household in Canada really showed me both worlds/cultures. And honestly... as much as love my Korean heritage and definitely want to try living there later, I'm relieved my childhood and teenage years are being spent in Canada. My cousin took her college entrance exam and she won't even tell us what school she'll be attending because she feels she didn't do well and get into a "good" school. The stress students feel there is ridiculous... I genuinely feel bad for the children who are being forced to grow up to fast. They'll be adults forever but being a child is only for a short period of time.

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  135. Wow, very opposite to our country which 87-90% of kids are very happy even in slam areas...

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  136. Actually the op was edited, just saying, but I actually never said that they thought all korean teachers were abusive, I was just wondering why he/she thought that

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  137. sunny bunny (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)January 27, 2015 at 9:55 PM

    its really sad that kids really aren't happy.. i hope that will actually change in a few years

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  138. This article is so sad because I'm 18 now and I'm still goofling around and playgrounds are still one of my source of happiness. AND I don't have school for like 6 months so I don't have to study for like half a year get to do whatever I want. C'mon Korea, let your kids take a break.

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  139. I dont have the heart to be ungrateful for my education knowing there are people in the world who could only dream about going to school
    so suck it up learn to use the educational system to your advantage

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  140. gotcha! I wish this place had a little edit history option like facebook. your comment could be taken both ways since you didn't say some but I understand now. thanks

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  141. Did it ever cross these pessimists' minds that maybe the reason why MOGEF manipulated the results because they kind of wanted these teens to believe that happiness can b achieved and try achieving happiness themselves? How sad are they that they actually doubt a "happiness" survey. This fact makes ME sad.

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  142. That is really really sad..for many of us gradeschool and highschool are the years you want to go back to because you had less things to think about than after graduation and being in the 'real world', but for them it's just the same :( I hope that they get to have happy weekends at least. ♡

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  143. Um no thre school curriculum is harder actually. My ap teacher was telling me for the ap exam your essay is graded on a 1-9 ratio. We have to write practice essays amd it's very difficult. Kids in Korea go by the 1-9 ratio. It also doesn't help the educational standards in America are being dumbed down as years pass.

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  144. American schools used to be like that in the 80s

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  145. students are not happy in any asian/southasian country for sure. we get so much burden cuz of studying. like the baby is just born n the parents already are planning things on where to send the kid to school n what not

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  146. 1) I attended school in Korea
    2) its not the school curriculum that is hard, its all of the extra classes/academies that are more challenging
    3) I never said it was easy compared to America
    4) there is no direct concept of ap tests, there are no separate classes. All finals are taken on one day at one time, the same test for everyone in the whole country... actually really crazy if you think about it!:)

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  147. no one is happy anymore. No matter what country you live in, teens lack in the happiness department. It's always been like that.

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  148. its the same in many other countries. though when i was younger , we did atleast get an hour to play outside cz those times it was safer too. but at school , our bag would be heavier than us. we practically used to hunchback walk in school. Over that getting beat up for losing marks and what not

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  149. atleast u r working hard. all the stress to place 1st in school n what not made me give up on working hard when i got into uni. i basically just skimmed through it

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  150. "Investigations found that the MOGEF cut back on the low income
    population and took a higher percentage of surveys from the mid to high
    income population, skewing the results from previous years."



    This is actually interesting, since lower income teens would probably be less likely to attend academies and the like. Probably reflects the idea that there's no hope outside college, and lower income students are less likely to go to college, especially high ranking ones, as they have less access to the expensive academies that higher income families force on their kids. Therefore they're depressed. Plus just the general disadvantages and depression that results from money issues (debt/loans is a huge issue that kpop fans ignore when talking about korea's issues with depression/suicide) and low income.

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  151. it USED to happen alot in other countries too, not just korea
    things have changed now

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  152. depends on the school too. the first school i studied at taught us stuff which are to be taught at unis and such, when i moved to another apparently 'prestigious' school , the school curriculum was a whole lotta easier.
    studies at private schools are harder imo . i studied for SATS and all that stuff i had studied in grade 8.

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  153. People want to be idols (or the equivalent) all around the world. They want to be rich and famous, so they're willing to take on the risk of debt, etc. Hollywood is full of such (failed) hopefuls.

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  154. If theyre kids and theyre not happy, i doubt it would get better as they get older... it bugs me when the government tries to shove rainbows and butterflies down ppls throats without doing much to solve the problem... here the problem is practically the opposite: the amount of kids with lots of free time that are not studying and then dropping out of school and I doubt those are happy either... there needs to be balance and action from authorities

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  155. my life's the other way around. i spent all throughout high school just fooling around and once i got into college, self-realization hit me and so i geared up and worked hard.

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  156. why on earth would an elementary school student go to an after school academy?!!!
    we only do that in high school...and it's mainly for people who want to guarantee a medical or engineering major...

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  157. reminds me of 1984 and those false reports haha

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  158. I think the main reason for such long study hours is the competition.

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  159. I once watched an episode of Hello Counselor where this 10/11 years old girl sent her concern to the show regarding her mom making her to take around 15 classes outside of school. And she complained that she always goes home around 9/10pm and she only goes to sleep around 2/3am because she has to finish up her homeworks and wake up at 6am to go to school. She gets jealous of her friends because they don't have that many classes outside of school and she wants to play with her friends but she can't. I think they way the society puts pressure and high expectations on the kids are so stressful. I can't even imagine living my childhood like that. They really need to change their ways of thinking. I really feel bad for these kids :l

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  160. 2. [+8,325, -58] I pass by playgrounds these days and they're completely empty while academies are brimming with children. I'm worried that kids will forget what it even means to 'play' anymore.

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  161. I wonder how much Korean schools changed.... my 7th and 8th(in Korea it's middle school 1st and 2nd)grades in SK was some of the happiest time. You get to spend gowd aweful amount of time with your classmates and this one guy went to same hagwon, so we became friends. We didn't eat lunch during lunch time. Instead we ate it up during 10 minute break. During supposed lunch hour, we played baseball or soccer. A good portion of school joined in on the fun. And those 10 minute breaks.... a lot happened during that time: discovering girls(who were actually sitting right next to us all the time), doing homework, chatting about all sort of things.... I guess because the rest of hour(50minutes) was so mundane, boring, demanding, and all sort of horrible, that 10 minutes was so precious.

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  162. Then why are you replied in my comment

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  163. now that's just too sad since i used to play in the playgrounds till I'm 12

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  164. Seems like they have to a different country to be happy.

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  165. oh i dont know. as an italian person, i get a lot of contacts from korean people through hello talk app who want to study my language to run away from reality and meet people from other cultures or just dream to run away from korea, and most of them sound really depresses and very low in confidence.
    at times i forget i am using that app to learn korean and i just use my time to comfort them and tell them they are ok, etc....it's sad

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  166. How did you fare for university?

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  167. Im sure your country is not heaven either

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  168. how do you even measure happiness? because I know people who looks happy when with other people but really sad inside :<

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  169. i think my country is way better than korea tbh

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  170. Happiness is overrated. We're unhappy as students going to school and unhappy as adults going to work.

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  171. Of course, but obviously Korean idol scene is nothing compared to Hollywood, it can't be even compared to American child celebrities. I said about teens in Korea specifically because only few idols actually manage to earn enough money to support themselves and their families. Majority of new idols will spend most of their years paying off their agency debts and yet there are more and more debuts every year. That's why people would think that less people would want to go that way, but it's quite the opposite. Same thing happens in Japan with their most popular boysbands agency, Johnny's Entertainment - people kept sending their kids there even after its CEO was accused of molesting their minor proteges. I could just never understand such sentiments, but maybe it's because I never dreamt of being a celebrity.

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  172. I think they took teens cheering for their kpop idols as a sign of happiness. But when they get home to real life it tears while studying studying studying and then back to school its bullying bullying bullying .






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  173. I feel sorry for Koreans. Your goverment is truly a joke, things didn't improve at all going from dictatorship to "democracy" , if you can even call it that in Korea.

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  174. At least in her country kids can be kids (I assume).

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  175. Tzitzi De la ColinaJanuary 29, 2015 at 6:22 PM

    OMG I can't believe Korea has a ministry of gender equality....

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