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Monday, November 3, 2014

MC Mong's comeback brings one controversy after the other


Article: 'First comeback in 5 years' MC Mong ranks #1 on 9 digital charts + 'all kill' line-up

Source: Star News via Naver

1. [+8,454, -1,174] All he needs is to go serve in the army now~~

2. [+7,524, -1,074] What's the difference between Psy and Mongplant... One had to serve twice while the other just got his teeth pulled.

3. [+7,147, -844] Moneyless, powerless guys like me are stuck serving two years like slaves. People defend MC Mong saying he reflected for five years but it's not like he was locked up in jail for that time.

4. [+6,147, -717] Look at him making a comeback the second he turns 35~

5. [+5,614, -939] Sigh... worse than Rain, honestly

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Source:
Nate

1. [+995, -172] As much as I hate MC Mong, I wonder what the singers who featured for him were thinking. He refuses to admit to his fault and is busy dissing everyone in his lyrics. It's depressing to think that he's probably enjoying the attention his album's getting right now.

2. [+947, -130] I don't care who's listening to his music, I for one refuse to. I will be changing the channel if I see him on broadcast. I can forgive foolishness but not a coward like him.

3. [+879, -100] Isn't it the pattern of the industry lately to hit #1 on the charts at 12 am when no competition is around other than absolute nugus and then winning #1 off of that on that week's music shows? It's not like MC Mong's the only one to line up songs on the charts nowadays.

4. [+73, -16] I saw that his songs were on the charts before work this morning and cringed. Not only did it turn me off from listening at all but it made me want to listen to more of Epik High and Seo Taiji. I don't want to see MC Mong on the charts.

5. [+40, -1] Wow, are people really listening to his music or is he using money???? Who would ever listen to his music????? Who wants to give him money??????

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Article: Baek Ji Young apologizes over controversy for congratulating MC Mong

Source: Ilgan Sports via Nate

1. [+2,346, -170] Why are there so many people defending a criminal saying all that matters is that his music's good

2. [+1,604, -139] A criminal is defending a criminal. I'm sure Baek Ji Young-ssi not only drove without a license but under the influence as well? Takes one to know one~

3. [+1,321, -89] MC Mong will disappear if you all stop giving him attention

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Article: Amidst MC Mong's digital chart all kill, 'Torch of the Red Hunt' trends on search rankings... why?

Source: Star News via Nate

It's a military song netizens are using as a keyword against MC Mong.

1. [+676, -39] Our loving grandson, son, hyung, oppa, and dongseng... had to work out there in the freezing cold, in pain out of duty to serve and protect their country. To all of you listening to and support MC Mong's songs, do you not feel sorry to them at all?

2. [+613, -39] Let's all unite under 'Torch of the Red Hunt'! Show him our strength!

3. [+522, -23] I will~ protect my own country~ under the torch of the red hunt~ I put my life on the line~

4. [+66, -1] Basically a present given to MC Mong by soldiers and future serving soldiers. The fact that this is up on the search rankings shows that the public hates MC Mong.

5. [+65, -2] I thought the public had died when I saw articles about MC Mong hitting #1 but seeing as how the new #1 is 'Torch of the Red Hunt', I realize Korea is still alive and kicking. Our netizens are amazing. How about we get all of the military songs trending and up on the digital charts!!!

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Article: MC Mong's new track, "Minah-ya, are things not going well with your boyfriend? He's not good for you"

Source: Ilgan Sports via Nate

1. [+475, -34] MC Mong, what makes you think you have any right to diss Son Heung Min? ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ At least he never evaded the army like you did, you XX ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

2. [+428, -37] Shouldn't have featured for him. Now she'll be remembered as the kid who featured for MC Mong.

3. [+344, -56] Let's all gather our strength and bring down not only MC Mong but everyone who featured for him!

4. [+37, -3] We need to boycott the singers who featured for MC Mong. Celebrities are defending each other even after committing a crime and treating the public as if they are hating on an innocent person.

5. [+35, -5] It's true that the public is now viewing anyone who featured for MC Mong negatively. They shouldn't have done it.

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562 comments:

  1. I'm surprised no one has called him MC Mongoloid

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  2. honestly he should have just went to the army within the 5 years he was away...

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  3. Fuck all the controversies
    His Album is awesome

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  4. A question: why peoples hate him so much? Criminal? Military? Just curious.

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  5. 2. [+7,524, -1,074] What's the difference between Psy and Mongplant... One had to serve twice while the other just got his teeth pulled.

    Wtf:) I think this article is about mc mong

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  6. Army thing in korea is retarded.

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  7. He really was a coward and should have just served and avoided his mess of a controversy

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  8. I didn't expect anything else other than controversies.

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  9. liking his album... best album of the year tbh the quality is top notch

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  10. he is slaying everyone ;~;

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  11. yup..such an amazing album, i've never heard a kpop album that good tbh..

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  12. His album is a masterpiece, and it looks like people missed him considering he got 11 roof hits alone for his title track and 17 roof hits total (all songs in Melon's Top 15 too).


    Faulty Fan, Miss Me or Diss Me, and Sick to Death Part 2 are my favorites.

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  13. all controversy aside, his album was legitimately good. cant deny it.

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  14. He slaying the charts and people clearly are enjoying his music

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  15. he killed so hard tho. lol.
    i am so happy.

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  16. Yep, over 800,000 people listening to the title track alone so they can complain all they want about him evading military service, but you seriously can't deny the fact that his album is fucking flawless.

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  17. Heard his tracks are doing well. They must have missed him then...?

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  18. I remember some people said he couldn't. Military wouldn't accept him, he's too old to serve after the case or maybe after serving his sentence. According to wiki: suspended jail term of 6 months, probation for one year, and 120 hours of community service.

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  19. omg despite the flawlessness that is his album, such responses would still feel hurt. mc mong should just enlist again the time he was away.... he's too talented and imagine what will he reap if he gets the public on his side....

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  20. my fave is E.R and Ailee featured song!

    SO GOOD!

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  21. not that easy tho...the army basically dismiss him n don't want him

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  22. He couldn't. He was too old.

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  23. I can see it. It's been happening for a long time now. People don't care about values and morals as long as they can consume, consume, consume.

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  24. can anyone explain what exactly this guy did? is it related to the army??

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  25. I wouldn't compare kpop to khiphop lol.

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  26. he pulled his teeth out so he can avoid the army

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  27. it's a good thing i don't fluent in korean cause i don't understand the lyrics, but from what i hear, the song is great, the music is great, the rap is great, the vocal is great, seriously great, i don't expect it to be like this great.

    And i'm typing this while listening to whole album. For those who yet didn't hear the album, you should hear it.



    And yeah for the controversy, he should just went to army while hiatus for 5 years.

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  28. You must be don't read all the news. Hehehe he applied after his verdict came out but military refuse him. So what can hr do in 5years except avoiding the attention bout him..

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  29. to bad knetizen he still slaying the chart

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  30. please, inets, don't disregard or excuse his army controversy just because his album is good. it's such a huge, important part of korean culture and my dad was able to skip his service because he burned his whole left leg when he was a child but he still gets shit for it and he's almost 50 years old.

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  31. if im not wrong, is it bc he couldn't ?

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  32. lotsa newbies asked what actually Mong did...i feel old...sobs

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  33. his ER remake was so damn good! his whole album is so good!

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  34. ugh.... why did ailee have to feature...

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  35. It's about his military dodging scandal, and also the fact that he didn't serve after he was caught, I think before the scandal he was pretty much loved by people there.

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  36. ohh okayy thanks for explaining

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  37. I'm hearing the album now, only get to 7 songs now, but i'm already hooked! i really like the song with gary and hyorin in it.

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  38. tbh the people who are saying that his album is good so it doesn't matter is pretty much saying "fuck you" to every man in korea

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  39. despite he's a rapper, i consider his music kpop, cuz its sound very pop, cuz he did this melodic rapping like singing than rapping to a beat kinda thing.
    for me, he's THE BEST at making melodic rapping, or any kpop melody song. i've always been a fan of his music, 119, Sick enough to die, indian boy, etc..
    if khiphop i'd actually go with epik high.

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  40. i also read somewhere that after MC Mong's case, the military realized there were too many loop holes and changed a few things about enlistment...and now certain people who do have real health issues have to serve. it was a huge mess of a scandal

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  41. His album is so good. He is slaying the chart.

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  42. er? as in dmtn's er?

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  43. Korean law is so weak...

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  44. His album's doing great on the charts and that doesn't surprise me at all.

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  45. where ???? which song?

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  46. it made me confused too...
    is this hate because he didn't serve in army or what?
    i have no idea
    can someone explain to me?

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  47. well K-nets have a point,.. really Psy did have to serve twice, and MC mong nothing... and let us think a second, your brother, son humband/boyfriend ahve tos erve for 2 years, and the ones that refuse go to jail, but he did not get amything,.. jsut relfect in the confort of his house...

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  48. [+344, -56] Let's all gather our strength and bring down not only MC Mong but everyone who featured for him!

    While I agree that he's a coward but please dont boycott Jinsil. I need to listen to her voice more.

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  49. Actor Han Jae Suk was 31 (around the same age as MC mong when the scandal broke out) when he got caught for swapping urine to fail his military health examination. it wasn't active duty, but he still had to serve.

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  50. I hope you to say the same thing when your country gets invaded and occupied by a neighboring nation.

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  51. the question is how much time, because it ussually hapen when it have pst a lont time and peopel is curious about what the music sound like

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  52. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MC_Mong

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  53. whoever is in war is retarted

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  54. Yes. It is a remake.. and for what I hear... it sounds as Chance (Dublesidekick member) is the featuring "The Channels"... but I'm not 100% sure.

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  55. ia, even as a fan you can't shield him. They are totally justified in what they are saying. It's something he brought on himself too. A shame.

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  56. He got into jail, wanted to serve, but army didn't want him.

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  57. No one is questioning his music people are fed up with him. .

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  58. the army coudl not have him becuase of his teeth, he did not stay as much as a notmal korean male will gt for not serve, they even could ahve get banned fromt he country, he is a coward, he new after that t he army could not take him.. simple logic

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  59. 2. [+1,604, -139] A criminal is defending a criminal. I'm sure Baek Ji Young-ssi not only drove without a license but under the influence as well? Takes one to know one~

    I just jnow about it now. When was it happen?

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  60. he remakes one of my favorite kpop song :) love it!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbJnuc2W16U

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  61. Hyorin's vocals in Faulty fan are just orgasm inducing. But I'm kind of conflicted. Whilst I really enjoyed the album, I do feel the unfairness that other men who had to or have to serve the army are experiencing.

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  62. the important point is this, if you're too lazy to search :

    Got called for serve. Don't want to. Pulled his teeth. Got hate for 5 years and counting.

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  63. He applied, the army didn't want him.

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  64. Knetizen want to avoid military service too, but they can't do it --> reason why they hate mc mong. that was natural because i know military service is really annoying and distrub our peace life. but, please dont using your mouth for dissing+cursing people like that...

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  65. he did his punishment, he apologies, he went reflecting for 5 years.
    isn't that moral and values lesson he applied?
    he ain't gone bieber people!

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  66. well yes BUT they ahve apoint the normal males have to suffer a lot, but here comes other "men" like MCM doing nothing and comeback as if anything happen. If was one of your family suffering you will be actingt he same

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  67. unfortunately (or fortunantely) ppl can't ignore talent..

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  68. oohh thanks. but im not that lazy. i already read the news

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  69. Good music is good music.

    But I feel like half of his current success comes out of the fact that people can't help but listen to his music bc of the controversy. It's bc their interested. The only way to know that people actually enjoyed his album is if the song lasts on the charts. Right now most people are listening to it bc of the controversy. Just like how Tara's sexy love did well even after their bullying scandal was bc people were interested however after the initial interest faded it didn't that well compared to Tara's past track record.

    I'm honestly pretty worried for people like Hyorin and Ailee bc they could get a really bad image from all this.

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  70. thanks for the link bb

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  71. and with reasong, he will walk wiht that shame if his back forever

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  72. 2. [+7,524, -1,074] What's the difference between Psy and Mongplant... One had to serve twice while the other just got his teeth pulled.



    awkward comparison is awkward. Though, I understand what they mean.

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  73. As much as I dislike him, he slays in chart. Me venting here would do nothing more than be seen bitter af.

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  74. my heart literally broke a little at this comment


    1. [+676, -39] Our loving grandson, son, hyung, oppa, and dongseng... had to work out there in the freezing cold, in pain out of duty to serve and protect their country. To all of you listening to and support MC Mong's songs, do you not feel sorry to them at all?

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  75. oh okay, i'm just assuming, sorry about that, hehe :D have a good day!

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  76. people saying his album is good, cuz his album is good.

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  77. I think because he didn't plead guilty and wasn't actually convicted of the crime he was accused of he couldn't serve. He only got in trouble for delaying, not actually pulling out his teeth.


    If he had pleaded guilty he could have served.

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  78. I've never been a fan of Mong as musician, and his latest album so far doesn't look to change that, but as a die-hard fan of 1N2D, I absolutely love him as variety persona. Any chance he might perform on music shows? I know he's banned from some networks, so cable maybe? Hope I can see him again in variety, maybe reunite with Na PD again someday

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  79. I feel you hahaha

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  80. And you're ignorant. Please stop.

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  81. from what I read he is banned from public broadcast, but really I dont ven think any cable station will risk like that, but let see

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  82. Mad Soul Child's fb images recently changed, gave me hope for a comeback ; ;

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  83. I have a friend who got back from Korean military service last year and has post-traumatic stress disorder from it. He can't even sleep 5 minutes without nightmares getting to him. It's disgusting that my friend and so many others had to serve and suffer while people like MC Mong got away with dodging enlistment.

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  84. Please move on fans..don't get stuck in the past. You can't change the past but u surely can mould the fufuture. Stop the negativity and hates. Throw away yours holier than thou attitude and stop playing god. Give people chance as we don't know if let's say in the future we will experience the same fate as him. If is not us maybe our loved one. So stop judging people.

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  85. you will not be saying the same if was your son or boyfriend serving, trust me...

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  86. As a long time fan of MC Mong... I have to say that I truly love this new album... has great songs and the artists that featured are all great. But I cannot shield what he did... he was wrong for not serving in the army when in Korea is a sensitive topic.
    He made such a bad choice and now he is paying the price by being called a traitor and an a**hole. His music is great? He is a great artist? Yes. He is a wondeful human being? He did the right thing by ditching the army? By media-playing about the "diss me" part? No. He thought and reflected about the issue? May be.
    At the end; people should let the ones that want to hear the music ( not the stories nor the person itself ). It's their money/choice and there will be people (like me) that will hear his songs...

    I will say one more thing... I can't see him (as a person) in the same way I did 5 years ago... but his music, his music still gives me chills.

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  87. he can't. his teeth are gone. you can't replace them. plus he was too old.

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  88. Yeah, chances atm are astronomically slim, but I think if he can manage to get on anywhere on broadcast again in the next 2-4 years hopefully doors will open again for him. I also hope they can talk about the military issue on both sides in the future, it wasn't enough to reflect silently on such a touchy issue

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  89. i as a korean male who will serve really want to mock you insult you but you're just a foreigner who don't know literally anything about the issue so i will inform you mc mong could have enlisted
    the constitution says you can enlist if you want unless you're over 40 at maximum and his case he could have done it even this year.


    http://www.newsen.com/news_view.php?uid=201104221306241001

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  90. why did psy hv to serve twice?

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  91. You will also not be doing the same (dissing on him) if ur boyfriend or son is in the same position as mc mong. I mean yeah he made mistake but can't people just forgive him. Do you want him to commit suicide to prove that he did feel guilty?

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  92. I think peopel wold not be that mand if he actually get a better punishment. Remember the article of the bulling on the army? and how some of them suicide? well that is what it hurts general public the most

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  93. He had a special admission and screwed around instead of actually doing his duties, got caught and had to go again for real

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  94. Agree, it would probably take a few weeks to a month to gauge whether this would really signal Mong's triumphant return to the industry

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  95. I'm just curious why people here are so quick to judge his actions. It's not inplausable that he views the military itself as something that he doesn't support. I, for one, find that the army itself is basically a glorification of violence, and can see why people who are forced to do it would go out of their way not to, especially if they do not support violence in any shape or form. It's just unfortunate that his situation occurred in a country with mandatory service. You can acknowledge that the public has a negative opinion of him, but that doesn't make him a horrible human being. He didn't assault anybody. The only person affected by his actions was himself.

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  96. Imo he should just sell his songs to other singers/rappers and work behind the scene. the album is really good. The problem is he acts like he's proud to be a criminal in his own country and show to powerless people that money can buy anything..
    And Korean law is so weak..

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  97. 1. [+8,454, -1,174] All he needs is to go serve in the army now~~



    IA... after all of this why he still didnt serve the army...? all those years he spent on reflection should have been spent in the army... i love his music but srsly i dont get what he is thinking

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  98. Sorry but like I said atleast my love one did went andis not acoward to avoid it, as much as he did not wanted to, it was somehting he need to do. You dont even get what they go true there and what they suffer, so dont act if something peopel can forget easy. May be you should go and read some article about the trainning, bulliying and suicide sepcialy in korean army, to knwo what a normal males have to go true, but just people liek MCM get to avoid it , just like that and comeback as nothing happen

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  99. To the ifans who don't understand why evading enlistment is such a big deal in Korea: serving in the army is a mandatory thing for men to do. Its a traumatic experience for all of them but can you imagine if there is someone who uses their position as a celebrity to get special treatment or evade it all together. How much would you hate that person? And while you're still recovering from training and trying to adjust back into your life this guy is making money off the songs he probably made during his 'reflection time' when he was originally supposed to be serving with you? No matter how good his album is, its sickening to hear.

    What MC mong did is a cowardly thing to do, albeit very human. No one wants to serve in the military. Its scary and painful and you don't know when a war might break out. But the fact that he purposefully mutilated himself to evade that is such a cowardly tactic and he should be ashamed of himself.

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  100. the album is freaking solid and a masterpiece

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  101. Love him or hate him though, he IS slaying
    http://i.imgur.com/jgtZRsm.png

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  102. Okay, thank you for the correction. Insulting me is fine I suppose, but I'm glad you just told me instead of doing that. :) True, I am ignorant about it if I'm wrong. The translation and news here has said he was too old and couldn't do it an the army didn't want him. If that's not true, then that should be corrected.

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  103. I feel like a lot of the Inetz (especially the ones who are new to the KPOP scene/Korean history/culture) do not understand the severity of MC Mong's scandal. This man tried to avoid his military duty (which is the law, every male in Korea has to serve their two years unless they're deemed unfit for duty *disabled, ill, etc*) by purposely pulling out his teeth so that he'll be determined as unfit for duty. Some guys go in for duty straight out of high school, everyone leaves their personal lives behind so that they can serve for their country. If boys who are as young as 19 can go and train and suffer, why can't idols and celebrities who are older than 28 go?! My father served and every Korean man should unless they're really unfit for duty. I don't care if his music is good (I know it's good because I used to be a fan of his music and I know how talented he is) but in my eyes and in the eyes of a lot of Korean citizens, he's a coward who doesn't seem to understand that what he did was bad. He didn't reflect at all.

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  104. Knetz laughs at MC mong... Mc mong laughs at knetz money

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  105. I'm just curious why people here are so quick to judge his actions.
    It's not inplausable that he views the military itself as something that
    he doesn't support. I, for one, find that the army itself is basically
    a glorification of violence, and can see why people who are forced to
    do it would go out of their way not to, especially if they do not
    support violence in any shape or form. It's just unfortunate that his
    situation occurred in a country with mandatory service. You can
    acknowledge that the public has a negative opinion of him, but that
    doesn't make him a horrible human being. He didn't assault anybody.
    The only person affected by his actions was himself.

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  106. i get kind of mad everytime i see something like this since i will enlist next year and i'm sorry for being mad

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  107. No one wants to serve. Once they get their notification letters there are more people crying than being happy. But Korea is in a sensitive position with north Korea just above them. They don't know when something might happen so they have to be ready. Its not about supporting the glorification of violence. Its about protecting your country.

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  108. Wow, I wonder where did the too old info came out then.

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  109. I'm sorry but that is nt a joke, this a sensitive topic

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  110. He's doing a whole lot better then that guy I can't think of his name. But Korea kicked him or if the country and said he couldn't come back because he didn't join the military when he said he would. Now he lives in China under Jackie Chan's label doing movies.

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  111. Here

    http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2011/06/113_89812.html



    They did seem to deny him though? Maybe not because of his age.

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  112. Are you korean to understand what is a law? and how young kids have to go true? and he ksit avoided it jsut like that? -___

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  113. no, you have every right to be mad about it. What he did was wrong.

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  114. It really hurt a lot that you cant return to your own country...

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  115. Yes I do understand your point there. In fact I have some korean guy friends who went to the army and they hate it so much. They got bullied and do difficult works and stuff and i do understand that you must feel more hurtful bcoz it is ur bf who went there.However it is not fair to punish people who make mistake by shutting down their life. Aren't they human too? Imagine we are taught to not give any chance to people if they make mistakes? Imagine if everytime people make mistake they cant have a life? They have to die? What does it makes us then? Are we that angels that we are so sure that we won't be like that person one day?

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  116. He did concerts and TV appearances during his service, so he was sentenced to do his service twice. PSY was already considered a controversial artist, then, so it didn't exactly harm his image much.

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  117. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLXT-2nxTuk

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  118. I would be fine in he actually get a proper punishement, proportioned to the sufferingt he other go true in the army. Look t the actr¿or that cant evenr etur to korea for the same reasong, come one he cant even return to his own contry. Who suffer more him or MCM? for sure the actor

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  119. 95% of SK man go to army. And MC Mong desperate enough to pull several of his teeth just so he can evade the army is just a freaking stupid move. Why did he need to make a lot of fuss when every available SK man definitely need to go to the army?

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  120. i wish i didn't know about this omg why did she do it

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  121. Why does getting your teeth pulled out deem one unfit for service?

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  122. There were rumors he was going to do something with Na PD, which would be tvn. Na PD has earned enough clout to do about anything he wants and he has said before he would do anything to help Mong. I wouldn't be surprised if he did.

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  123. well if they do it, let see the respont to that channer after,.. I'm prettys ure after that they will apologize,mark my words, ( happen all the time)

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  124. I think we can't understand because se don't live korean situation. After The II WW my dad had to serve The army too... It actually ended only a few years before i was born, when the situation in Europe was competely stable. Unfortunatly for korea it's noto Like that ... It's difficult to understand forma us now i think.

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  125. MC MONG will be like
    So what?? I got an all-kill while some of yr oppa still not won any music program

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  126. honestly he should've just go to the army in the first place.it always struck me by how celebrities who came back the army can always fit back into their careers(idols,actors,etc).i see nothing wrong with taking a leave to provide your service for your country.

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  127. I think nobody should be forced to serve in the army. If they do, it should be voluntary. What is a soldier who does not want to serve? A weak one.

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  128. whatever, Mongie still SLAYEDDDDDD all those charts !!!
    plus, what is fucking wrong with a friend suporting another friends ??? stupid netzzz !!! BJY shouldnt apologize, she should just ignore those haters ....


    #WELCOMEBACKCMONG

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  129. Got relatives that are too, surprised?

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  130. Yeah I do agree with the punishment thingy and I wonder why the hell the government did not give an ample punishment to him? I believe if he is given the punishment he will go through it but the korean authority is not thorough with their job.Btw you have ur opinion and I respect that. I also have my opinion where I think forgiving is important and mc mong did live five years in isolation and that is also a punishment but I have to say that it is not enough. However I too believe that vengeance is not an answer but forgiving is.

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  131. Besides all crap that happened, his album is really good.

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  132. 2. [+947, -130] I don't care who's listening to his music, I for one
    refuse to. I will be changing the channel if I see him on broadcast. I
    can forgive foolishness but not a coward like him.


    yeah right, knetz forgive aha

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  133. so what happen then?he got his teeth back?XD

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  134. i know who youre talking about.. yoo seung joon.

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  135. how are they fed up his been gone for five years. Here is a quick fix for everyone, ignore it.

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  136. Knetz have fucking one-track minds

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  137. True enough but the fact that so many people do not wish to willingly serve in the army is a huge indicator of it's credibility does it not?

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  138. Asking the public to boycott who are supporting him. Wow,, Disses him yet they still listens to his new songs. He might did crime.. 5 years passes it's time to forgive him. You guys are living in the world that full of hatred.

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  139. Should he suffer for it till he dies, though?

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  140. me too !!!! yeayyyyyyyy XD

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  141. The comments are negative but I think Korea is at a point where comments maybe have less power then before since the songs are doing good.

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  142. Yes! That's him.

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  143. I mean its not hard to get, its mandatory we get it. God but what is he supposed to stop his life, he needs to eat too you know.

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  144. Jenizz | pinkcrownNovember 3, 2014 at 3:41 AM

    Because everyone goes to the military because they want to. If they could avoid the service... they would.

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  145. Can someone explain me what happened??

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  146. people need to mind their own business more like. if he did so bad it will be his own business to work with and the people that got affected, which was no one but himself.

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  147. It depends on the person though?


    I myself have been in a difficult position and someone else got off of it. Knowing the situation I don't blame them at all, it's not in my nature to resent someone of which actions do not affect me at all.


    Him not serving in the military does not affect anyone else. Those people that serve the military will still have to do it whether he did it or not.


    If you think he is a bad person for evading it then okay, but ultimately it doesn't affect you at all.

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  148. easier said than done. not every country is blessed with a large population where they can sit around and wait for people to volunteer themselves into the army.

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  149. good luck for your military service

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  150. lol okay wait why did you change your comment???? first only your relatives were korean and now you're trying to validate your race with this “kimchi” comment??? whatever. don’t get me wrong, i don’t believe service should be mandatory either and the fact that my dad gets grief for it everyday by his family and friends years later is a heavy reminder but mc mong wasn’t a regular korean citizen, he was a celebrity and public figure. his evasion made it look like special treatment while boys fresh out of high school suffered through two years of it. not to mention he PURPOSELY pulled out his teeth to get out of it while my dad works his ass off to prove to his friends he’s not just some useless handicap??? koreans have EVERY right to be mad at mc mong because EVERY one of them have felt the struggle and distress of saying goodbye to a loved one when it was their time to serve. as you can tell, it’s an emotional topic for a lot of us. especially when mong claims he’s reflected and then his album title is “did you miss me or diss me??” like honestly that’s the most condescending shit i’ve ever heard and it makes him sound like he has absolute NO respect.

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  151. here this is from wiki

    Controversies

    Mandatory national service

    In September, 2010, allegations regarding his mandatory national service
    prompted the South Korean Military Manpower Administration (병무청) to
    conduct an investigation. Due to the public outcry, he has stopped all
    public appearances, including TV programs. Originally, according to
    reporters one of his dentists publicly stated that he received money
    from Mong to remove two teeth instead of repairing them. Mong strongly
    denied these allegations. On October 10 Mong was officially charged with
    the violation of military service laws by the Seoul Central District
    Court. In Mong's second trial on 29 November 2010, after four of his
    dentists came forward to support his case, the fifth and the one
    previously stated who took out teeth number 46 and 47 changed his
    statement. He explained that tooth number 47 was acutely damaged, so he
    pulled it out. He pulled out tooth number 46 as there was a hole in the
    tooth, and explained that he could not know why the hole was there. He
    also explained that MC Mong had not taken good care of his teeth and
    most of his teeth needed either care or removal. He also explained that
    the police told him to write in words such as “forceful” and “intense”
    into his account, and that he was bothered about it constantly when he
    did not. He explained that he had never talked to MC Mong about
    enlistment evasion. He explained that unlike the reports suggested, he
    had never received any money from MC Mong for pulling the teeth out, and
    that the reason he took the teeth out was not from MC Mong’s request.
    His third has held on December 20. The 4th trial, initially scheduled
    for 24 January 2011, was postponed until February 8.

    On 11 April 2011, Mong was cleared of intentionally pulling out
    healthy teeth to be exempted from military duty but was sentenced to a
    suspended jail term of 6 months, probation for one year, and 120 hours
    of community service, for deliberately delaying enlistment on false
    grounds.[10]
    The court acknowledged that there was a delay in his military
    enlistment, however, they were unable to determine whether he was guilty
    for extracting teeth for the purpose of avoiding his military draft.[11]

    In September 2011, it was reported that Mong has been banned by Korean Broadcasting System (KBS) and Munhwa Broadcasting Corporation (MBC) from appearing in its TV shows, for draft dodging.[12]

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  152. amaya aguero monzonNovember 3, 2014 at 3:54 AM

    This is really a problem we I-netizens shouldn't get in to cuz we will just not understand like they do !

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  153. Just like people don't understand where Koreans come from Koreans don't understand where other people come from.


    Everyone has been put in difficult situation where someone else managed to avoid it. I for one do not have a habit of resenting someone's actions that ultimately do not affect me.


    If he served or didn't serve still doesn't have any consequences on those who had to. People is not looking at the bigger picture here, the only one affected for not serving the military was himself and he had to pay for it.


    Him not serving still doesn't stop the military itself from recruiting other men. His actions literally do not affect anyone else but himself. He didn't kill anyone, he didn't rape anyone, he didn't steal from anyone. If he is a cowards for avoiding it well then that's just that. I'm sure there are many other men that also thought about doing something to avoid the military. MC Mong, in a population of 25 million Korean men, is surely not the only one wanting to avoid doing the military.


    I mean you can say there are man that say "I'm a man if I serve the military" but not everyone will think the same, especially with the controversies surrounding the military, where it drove a young man to kill himself and I'm sure he wasn't the only one to do so.

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  154. YSJ is a whole different level...that guy was poster boy for military service and right when his enlistment came up, he went to america(?) under the promise with the government that he wouldn't pull a fast one on them...only to change his citizenship....

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  155. Ah i see. Thanks for the info and for replying me! :)

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  156. Inside the JellybeansNovember 3, 2014 at 4:06 AM

    I remembered the reason he can't serve the army is because before the physical exam, he purposely pulled some of his teeth out

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  157. I don't know why you are using someone's personal story to post your wall-of-text irrelevant opinion, just to dick ride a top comment. Your BS had nothing to do with her. Rude and cheap.

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  158. For those that are wandering why serving in the military is mandatory in S. Korea it's because they need sufficient amount of active personnel to rival/match that of N. Korea army in cease the later decides to launch an attack or invade the former.

    To give you guys some idea of the situation:
    North Korea, as of 2013, with 9,495,000 active, reserve, and paramilitary personnel, is the largest military organization on Earth.[from wikipedia]

    South Korea reported personnel strength is 3,539,000 in 2012 (639,000 active and 2,900,000 reserve).[from wikipedia]

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  159. I honestly like MC Mong, he was funny and talented. I do miss seeing him on the tv and hearing his songs. I was excited when he wanted to go back to the industry, but I know it's never gonna be easy to cheers for him. What he did was wrong. What he did is a crime, and I'm forever disappointed at him.

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  160. The reason for the military service is because north korea is still a threat. If there was no mandatory service s.k. will be found weaker to them and invade.

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  161. and this is why we should never see netizens reaction as the representative opinion of all of Korea

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  162. if a someone breaks the rules on witch a society is build it affects the whole society.U don't have to be physically hurt or involved for that to affect u, or the well being of that society.
    And the netz rage is justified and comes within the range of him 'paying for it'

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  163. hopefully some variety show with the 1n2d boys. i heard that seunggi also had a meeting with Na PD. maybe something is going to come up soon. Na pd always worries about mong and always said he will help him if he can. maybe what mong needs is a variety show.

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  164. i got a little bit emotional. 1n2d season 1 boys will always hold a special space in my heart. loved it!

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  165. You are a fucking jackass lol


    I posted an opinion because I had it not to "ride a top comment"


    You are the one bullshitting here trying to bash me when it's just a freaking post lol if you don't like what I write ignore it.


    Rude and cheap. That fits you. Self-awareness. That's what you need, ivanhoo.

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  166. "If he served or didn't serve still doesn't have any consequences on those who had to. People is not looking at the bigger picture here, the only one affected for not serving the military was himself and he had to pay for it."
    Ofc there are long-term consequences for the country in general! Are we looking at the same situation?
    Logically, him getting away with this wouldn't exactly be great from the military in the future years. This would definitely inspire more younger generations to consider the option of faking stuff like this to skip their service. And at the end of the day, it does not matter who likes it or who doesn't; their country needs reinforcements against NK, and this is an effective method.

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  167. The have had military service since South Korea was formally institutionalised and in those 70 years or so most men still serve so I don't see how a guy will change that??


    The military got rid of celebrity service exactly because they want all men to serve the same I'm sure they will come up with methods to make it harder for average men to avoid serving.

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  168. me too. YAAYY!.

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  169. If it literally doesn't affect you physically, emotionally or mentally it's probably because you just want to be affected I'm sorry.


    I'm not saying their feelings are wrong, I just don't share them. It's okay to feel what the feel my only point is, everyone has their own opinion and their own priorities.

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  170. too bad clearly people like him cuz hunty he wouldnt score a fucking All kill if no one liked him..... good bye

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  171. Sometimes I don't understand k-netizen . the women beater, sex offender, gambling actor but still they love them. I know military was a big thing but not that like he don't go it. Military refuse to accept it.


    Try to be at he place than you will know.
    Look back most of he artist friends support him for this comeback, you don't know what happen behind the camera. So don't say like you know everything.

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  172. he has always be known as a good musician and his fans were waiting for his comeback for so many years. those people who featured in his songs took a great risk. dont know why. they must know that this can lead to bad image for them. maybe they are close friends who is trying to help out

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  173. fed up with hiM?? he just came back after 5 long years.

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  174. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BcHJSEPSKj8/UQ5D-Sj9uGI/AAAAAAAAI_E/u3QK3GLw5iI/s1600/rolling-eyes.jpg

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  175. but who are u to talk on behalf of them? whenever there are posts about the army u could clearly see the comments from ppl that are affected and hurt.men who had to go, women who had loved ones that had to go.
    I don't know who u are but i sincerely don't see why inetz's opinion on something they don't partake in or doesn't affect them even matters. It's not some trivial matter, it's the army and it's important considering the sensible situation with N Korea.
    U are the one who doesn't see the bigger picture and why exactly this is important,for once this is not just about being an individual. It''s about being part of society and doing what is best for the safety and continuity of it

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  176. but he didn't act remorseful at all

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  177. not hide it better... but present it better (for me)
    OF course it's impossible to deny that they are selling sexiness too, but again it's not TO YOUR FACE kind of thing... I can watch both snsd and 2ne1 MV or performance with my family, but not AOA or Sistar recent MV...

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  178. Hull, i think it's wrong if he really avoid his duty

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  179. 9. [+69, -5] No fault of the girls that the industry only cares about looks. Male singers are the same... their songs suck but they get fans for being handsome.

    pretty much and people are always saying they miss their band concept but let's be honest, how many of you bought their songs ?
    the band concept didn't work, are they supposed to starve ?
    the public made the sexy concepts more popular at the end, only some bigots still complain about it.

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  180. How did you know that he don't remorseful at all ?

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  181. はじめましてよろしくお願いしますNovember 3, 2014 at 4:56 AM

    i guess the public has forgiven him or believes the korean justice system did their job.

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  182. lmao :)
    something tells me that some people have a hard time admitting that their opinions don't represent all the koreans.

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  183. But the public checked out T-ara too during their comeback. Then dropped them for good. Too early to say what will happen.

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  184. So irrelevant comments. ...The charts are speaking tho
    This comments REALLY represent the minority

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  185. just checked Melon : his songs are still lined-up xD

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  186. Ughhh koreaboo. ...koreaboo everywhere

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  187. idk. They were on Jessica's side too in the beginning. But, as time passed, it flipped.

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  188. B-but.. they look all pretty.. What's wrong with people?

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  189. Cause she ain't gonna lose one single opportunity to gain some relevance
    OR U DON'T KNOW YOUR THIRSTY BIAS DARLING?

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  190. He States low and at home for 5 years, do people want to see his corpse

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  191. She's screaming so fucking loud

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  192. You are right, he wanted to serve after the trial but was rejected. Basically stuck with this stigma the rest of his life, unlike Psy who could redeem himself.

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  193. Err, you are wrong it was all over the news. He's not that incorrigible to not want to enlist after getting caught. He tried to enlist after but got rejected.

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  194. Not everyone is fortunate to live in a country that is free from a constant threat of war. South Koreans live under a very real fear that they could be attacked at any moment, they are still technically at war. So all men have to do their part and enlist. No one likes it, but they do it out of service for their country and the safety of their fellow citizens. MC Mong purposefully avoided this. I am also anti-war, but sometimes it's not about how you feel about something and it's about the greater good and everyone else around you.

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  195. Why do you have to sound so rude? lmao.
    Wait, never mind, you're just salty that Ailee has more relevancy than you'll ever have, seeing at how you jump at any chance to put her down whenever someone mentions her here :)

    Peace out. Go do whatever you want so that you can have a good day or night, my fellow inet ^^

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