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Monday, November 10, 2014

[Cafe] Additional rumors posted by those involved with Seo Jisoo

I noticed people kept linking a compilation post from a popular cafe and decided to translate some of the extra stuff that I missed in my original post. Once again, it will be summary style and I'll selectively translate accounts from the alleged victims. All screencaps of translated KakaoTalk conversations can be found in the original post.

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Post from victim: "Even as I write this post, I'm still terrified of everything that's happened but I know that I'll feel so sorry for myself and regret it if I let this be buried. Maybe you (referring to Jisoo) were able to act so easily because you knew none of this would get out in the world since you were dating a girl.

We were lovers and she always asked me for sex and to take pictures of the act. Whenever I said I did not want to, she'd get mad at me and accuse me of not loving her and verbally abuse me sexually (she'd say things like "I'll fuck you with your legs spread open prettily, you know you want it"). When I asked to break up, she told her friends and invited me into a group chat with them. In a chat room with no one on my side, they'd talk down about my looks and she'd tell in explicit detail about our sex life, embarrassing me to no end.

If there had only been an apology, and if she had only kept the issue between me and her, I could've kept quiet and never revealed all of this to the world. But like always, she'd use her friends to message me, telling them to tell me that she's sorry and that I should forgive her. She'd then threaten to sue me if I posted anything about this. She kept telling me that we used to be good together, asking me to protect her.

I'm so angered. I read posts accusing other victims of there being a lack of evidence. I understand that this is all terrifying and hard to believe. But to ask me of proof of sexual harassment? I am living proof of it. I'm sorry that I couldn't come forward earlier because of legal threats. As always, the final judgment will be left to you but here's proof of shipping of the boxes we had delivered to each other while we were still dating."


(Postage sent by Seo Ji Soo *her phone number and address*)

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Victim who later deleted her post but the phone number she provides as evidence aligns with the phone number listed in the picture provided above):

"I went on a date with her and she asked if she could finger me while we were at a cafe. ㅋㅋㅋㅋ She liked sexual things and did a lot of other bad things. I still remember Seo Jisoo so vividly. In 2012, the last four digits of her number was 3083, right? ㅋㅋ How am I able to provide evidence of all the sexual things she did and said? It's not like I would've recorded anything back then. I obviously liked her then so I stayed quiet."

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Victim who provided a picture Seo Jisoo sent her in 2012 (another picture of her in underwear was excluded because her face wasn't shown):

"I find it ridiculous that she's debuting now. I remember she'd show me her breasts and ask if it made me horny. She also talked about how her boyfriend's dick was so small and how she liked sleeping with boys but also liked torturing girls so she couldn't stop dating girls either."

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A former Woollim trainee provided proof of Seo Jisoo's 2013 winter Kakao Talk profile and phone number along with a picture she took while training with her in Woollim. She confirmed that while Seo Jisoo was dating a male from her dance academy, she was also dating one of the victims above. Woollim apparently knew about this but let it go while other trainees who were found to have boyfriends were cut.

The victim who provided all of the first release of proof pictures (personal selcas, Woollim training pictures) also provided Seo Jisoo's number as proof that aligned with the number provided by the Woollim trainee (last four digits 9411).


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A victim provided KakaoTalk captures of Jisoo texting her her feelings around November~December 2013. (TN: The watermark makes it difficult for me to make out some words)


Jisoo: But the story's out now. I changed my phone number and (they?) told me not to spread the pictures or make any contact with anyone other than my family.

Jisoo: I'm so scared

Jisoo: that there will come a day that I can't hold my head up to the people of the world

Jisoo: I'm too scared to even know where to begin

Jisoo: telling the company people up to what part is true

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Around September 2012, one of Seo Jisoo's exgirlfriends posted on a cafe claiming to have dated her and that she had bit her finger while sleeping. Being a pianist, she claimed that the act was not only perverted but damaging to her.

Woollim and Seo Jisoo apparently threatened to sue her and demanded that she stop posting about her on the cafe. The person provided the Kakao Talk conversation that Seo Jisoo sent her threatening to sue her and demanding to know her current address unless she denied the story.

She claimed that Woollim demanded that she never talk about this again and revealed that Woollim knew about Seo Jisoo's rumors but that they were extremely fond of her and kept her from leaving the company three times. Seo Jisoo was also apparently extremely manipulative, lying to the company that she was being bullied by the other trainees and crying whenever her rumors were brought up.

The same person provided the following additional account to the cafe owner in a Kakao Talk conversation:

"I met with Jisoo and someone else and slept together in a motel. She, of course, said many sexual things, but the things going around now were said in a group conversation. At the motel, she said things like 'I'm a virgin so take my virginity' and asked me to massage her thighs after she came out in just a gown from the shower. She let her shower gown spread open to expose her breasts and later left with the third person to her house.

She'd always say things like 'Fuck me, I'm a virgin' or 'I'm not a virgin in the ass' and she'd always send us pictures of her adult toys. I have a picture she sent me of her in a thong but I don't have it anymore. Anyway, I contacted you because I'm not a victim but I thought my story would help..."

She provided a picture she took with Seo Jisoo at a cafe as her proof.


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897 comments:

  1. Can someone please make a resum about what she did ? Is she getting hate just because she is lesbian ?

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  2. Thanks for taking the time to translate all this

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  3. um if this is true-- ew????? omg what is going on

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  4. Basically this : popular online activity among Korean teens is roleplaying as celebrities on SNS like Kakao Story. Around 2012, she roleplayed as INFINITE/EXO members and said sexual things like "I want to rape Do Kyungsoo", "I wonder what color ***'s dick is", "I want to sleep with L", "I want to rape Kyungsoo till he bleeds". She was also involved with date rape, school violence, and animal abuse.
    Regarding the girls she dated, she had allegedly forced them into sleeping with her and took pictures of them naked to show them to her friends. She also outed one of her ex-girlfriends on her college's homepage. All of these accounts were posted on roleplaying cafes that she frequented by the people she roleplayed with and dated.

    One of the girls she dated posted: "The reason I'm posting this is because I dated her in 2011 and we broke up because of internal issues. We started dating again in 2012 until I found out that she had spread pictures of my body."
    Another post by her ex: "She took a hidden camera video of us having sex and spread it to the company that I was working for. Rumors of me being a slut began spreading even though I was simply making love to someone I had loved. The video was taken without me knowing. Now I am scared of dating anyone and for a while I couldn't even leave my house. I quit working for my company and lied to my parents. I even tried to commit suicide. The only thing that I want now is for Jisoo to not be happy. I don't want her being forgiven for all of her crimes with her debut after ruining someone else's life. I am including pictures that Seo Jisoo personally sent me of pictures inside her company."

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  5. This seems pretty damning.

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  6. Wow, she's born in '94. I'm speechless.

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  7. kpop needs a villain.

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  8. You seriously thing people would be so shocked just because she's lesbian? -_-

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  9. at the start of this, i thought this was some silly rumour but i really don't know anymore. whatever seo jisoo allegedly did is absolutely disgusting and immoral and she should be punished by it. i'm still having a hard time deciding on what to believe. i'm just hoping it isn't because the stuff she did to her "victims" is horrible

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  10. why would woollim hire someone like this at the first place?

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  11. So she's bisexual then. That seems right. Generalization but in my experience bisexuals tend to behave like this.

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  12. No, she's getting hate because she took pictures and videos while she was having sex with the girls she dated and spread them around the internet.

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  13. Because they thought they could bury it/make money off her, why else?

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  14. ok ..what in the hell did I read ..0_0

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  15. Not all bisexuals rape women and date men at the same time. This is a very extreme case and should be a judgment of this person, not a judgment of her sexuality.

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  16. I really don't know what to believe. Whatever the outcome is, though. I hope someone ends up in jail

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  17. This is terrible. I don't want to believe anymore.

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  18. If this is all real she needs to face serious charges, but since it's still unclear no one should jump to conclusions

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  19. If this ends up being truth. This is way worse than T-ara scandal or any other involving girl groups. Too shocking.

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  20. So woollim already knew she was two-timing and everyone else found to have boyfriends/girlfriends were kicked out but she didn't. FISHY.

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  21. that oesnt make any sense, cmon how many scandals are there in a year things being spilled out every time. And they're not even a new company

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  22. We still have no real definite proof but these accounts don't sound fabricated to me. There's several themes that are consistent across the victims' stories, like Jisoo threatening to sue them and the phone number. I guess it could all be the work of the same person but I'm starting to think this is real.

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  23. theres so much at stake, everyones ruined now

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  24. seriously what the fuuuuckkkkk hahahahahaha 2014 is the craziest year ever

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  25. The fact that Woollim might be in on this is really sick. If this turns out to be true, they're going down along with Jisoo.

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  26. What is that pic of Baekhyun doing here? ^^

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  27. im physically sick from this

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  28. i think maybe bribery?

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  29. probably fucking someone from the higher ups.

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  30. bad translations around cuz fans trying to defend Jisoo.

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  31. If this is true then Woollim is a disgusting company. To put a girl with a history of sexual abuse and bullying towards other girls into a dorm with seven other girls? Sick.

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  32. Woollim likes her so much that they're willing to house a sex offender..? That's really fucked up

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  33. A real Femme Fatale

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  34. Really. That's like saying 'in my experience people with blond hair are assholes'.

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  35. I am willing to believe things started after she became a trainee.

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  36. it's very likely that if this is truth, then they just thought that she had one boyfriend, and they liked her more, that's why they decided to keep her

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  37. shit just got real

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  38. Seems like she is sleeping with a Woolim staff or something, I cant think of another reason why they will still keep her.

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  39. And how many of those scandals ACTUALLY damage the idol's career LOL? Companies are on this shit.

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  40. yeah i thought the same. they said frist she liked to roleplay as exo

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  41. Excuse me? What exactly are you implying? I'm a bisexual and I can guarantee yo, I am nothing like this.

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  42. I think the same. Or she has a very rich sponsor who was prepared to pay for Lovelyz' debut.

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  43. Maybe she fucked her way up there, who knows

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  44. Maybe. Or maybe her parents have money and hold stock in woolim?

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  45. 'Woollim knew about Seo Jisoo's rumors but that they were extremely fond
    of her and kept her from leaving the company three times.'

    i'm so curious... surely it isn't worth it, considering all the baggage she had and the trouble she got up to up till that point

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  46. this is probably the biggest scandal of this year. It doesn't matter if it's truth or not.

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  47. I wonder how the other members feel. Woolim is clearly not in the right mind if they keep her.

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  48. Even T-ara's scandal had no proof but they still carry that stain on their image today. Honestly no matter how this plays out, this girl has no future in this industry. Worse scandal in a girl group I've seen yet.

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  49. so you didn't read this sentence ??"Seo Jisoo was also apparently extremely manipulate, lying to the company that she was being bullied by the other trainees and crying whenever her rumors were brought up."

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  50. yeah....i don't even know anymore. it seems ridiculous someone so young had been raping and threatening multiple people by the time she was with woollim, and thinking not of it would surface? okay maybe she didn't since she's allegedly psychotic, but the company? they didn't know better?


    then there's still the slightest possibility this is all some mean smear campaign and circumstantial things are just snowballing. it's a head case of a situation.

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  51. Yeah, it's a combination of almost all the top scandals this year

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  52. Whatever the outcome is, Jisoo is ruined for sure. Knetz have elephants' memories and everything we've seen up till now is so shocking it won't be forgotten anytime soon... I feel so sorry for the other girls. I do hope they get to debut smoothly as 7 at least.

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  53. Your bale fits the topic

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  54. But it says before that "Woollim knew about Seo Jisoo's rumors but that they were extremely fond of her and kept her from leaving the company three times"

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  55. There's two possibilities here:


    A) This is all true and she really is a manipulative, sexually abusive rapist who Woollim knew the history of and still decided to keep and place in a dorm with seven other girls.


    B) This is all fake and someone is deliberately making all of this up with the full knowledge they will be ruining not just her career but possibly the career of seven other girls too.


    Either way this is disgusting.

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  56. Being a lesbian is not the issue here. It's her disgusting malicious acts that are being discussed here by accounts of people she has dated. Imagine if you slept with someone and you didnt know she was taking pictures of it and spreading it on the internet!!! What horror is that!

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  57. Damn... this all sound like a drama. Shit is crazy. If she's truly guilty of all of this, the psycho needs to go to jail... But if she isn't, damn these crazy girls just ruined her life.

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  58. If this is true, Seo Jisoo is a gross and manipulative human being. So far I'm not getting the rape part because everything in this sounds consensual but she should be fined for spreading pictures etc.

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  59. I think part of the reason they could have assumed nobody would come forward is because of the fact that it's a same sex relationship/assault. Being outed can seriously ruin someone's life, especially in a society that still has a long way to go. I can clearly see some people thinking they'd just be better off hiding it, if only because they feared for their safety after they said anything.

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  60. So where are they.

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  61. this makes sense. how fucked up.

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  62. she spread them to her friends and one of her ex's workplace, not the internet

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  63. it says it's her kakao talk profile. probably a fan of baekhyun.

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  64. Bruh. I don't think these girls are lying. This isn't a simple iljin rumor were half the time there is little to no proof at all. These girls have all kinds of shit on her. Even after threats to take legal action these victims are still coming forward so they're has to be some truth to it. Like damn Woollim just let this girl go. It's best this way.

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  65. This isn't a scandal. It's a crime.

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  66. we don't know it yet.

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  67. "revealed that Woollim knew about Seo Jisoo's rumors but that they were extremely fond of her and kept her from leaving the company three times."

    I had a feeling that this whole thing would be swept under the rug by Woollim; I just didn't want to believe it. And seeing how [most scandals] are usually handled, even though this scandal is on a much higher level than others, I feel like nothing will result from this. Jisoo will carry on being an idol. People will still support her/be her fan. And it makes me fucking sick just thinking about it. I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to believe that I'm completely wrong, but honestly; I don't think I am....

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  68. so that means. no evidence.

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  69. manipulated..

    Check this out !
    http://blog.naver.com/tnwjd7981/220177662619

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  70. Look at all the proof. I'm 90% sure it's all true. If it's not, laugh at me later.

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  71. apparently she was very manipulative & lied that she was getting bullied.

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  72. Pure speculation, but it might be because they would have leverage over her while she worked there. If she did anything out of line or tried to terminate her contract, they would have quite a strong bargaining chip against her. They would have the power to end her career as they see fit, but now that everything is out there, it changes things quite a bit....

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  73. People are saying that she's not capable of doing this because she's so young, but she's not that young and people younger than her have done some messed up stuff as well.

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  74. I'm wondering about something actually, all the victims are basically saying she forced them to do all of that? the question is why did no one refused? To sleep with her? Or to ignore her messages or whatever? Why were they doing what she told them to do? This is really confusing

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  75. Oh man....why boner

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  76. It looks pretty legit though, but if it isn't, then maybe they should just prosecute the people who started the rumor

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  77. If it turns out this entire thing was a well concocted lie I think I might actually be impressed

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  78. apparently she's very manipulative. and she probably seduce them too.

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  79. LMAO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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  80. The thing that worries me, (if the rumors are true) is that did she do those kind of things to her members?

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  81. Abusers are often very good manipulators, and can shred someone's sense of self-worth to the point where they do anything. Things like making them feel like the abuser is the only person that really cares about them, that really loves them, that everyone else will dump them when they do just one wrong move, can make their victims do things they otherwise wouldn't.


    And in cases like this, where there's big secrets involved (in this case, homosexuality), blackmail can be a thing too.

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  82. That's really unlikely if they're straight/uninterested in women. Plus it'd be way too easy to find out and get caught doing.

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  83. it's really fucked up

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  84. No, everything is not consensual. Emotionally manipulating someone into saying yes is still considered rape...

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  85. If the company knew about the rumors, then why keep the trainee?

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  86. Damn, gurl should've just stuck to her dildo sex toys and masturbated herself to oblivion. Ugh I think I'm gonna vomit.

    If all these allegations are true, I'm curious as to why Woolim never let her go.

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  87. Manipulation and blackmail actually are still considered rape. I believe the term is "duress"?

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  88. ithoughtiwasalreadyloggedinNovember 10, 2014 at 5:12 PM

    ngl im more shocked that she was a bisexual. Talk about giving bad names to homosexuals...people are gonna be using stories like these to back up that gays are sex driven without control...sigh

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  89. IthoughtIkneweverythingNovember 10, 2014 at 5:12 PM

    that shit is so fucking scary!!

    http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110906024015/glee/images/4/4a/Harry_Shum_OMG.gif

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  90. so that means, she's not dumb enough to put that shit online where she couldn't control who saw it

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  91. the twitter is @jisooluv though?

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  92. omg if this is true, she is a psychopath. i seriously think so.

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  93. If this is true then she is really demented. I don't see how debuting her would benefit the group in any way. :/ Best to just let her go.

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  94. This was what came to my head when I read all of this too :/

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  95. This scandal is on whole new level. 2014 be like : Oh I ain't gone yet,hon!

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  96. " Seo Jisoo was also apparently extremely manipulate, lying to the company that she was being bullied by the other trainees and crying whenever her rumors were brought up "

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  97. well you learn something new every day.

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  98. there're a few accounts, including that and jisooluv

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  99. its ok they'll just go on some random show to cry about it

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  100. =o !! So basically she is a sick bitch . But what bother me the most is the ' animal abuse' part :( I don't want her to debut

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  101. agreed. there's no good ending to this.

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  102. Yeah, to be fair to you though the interpretation in court is pretty strict. She might not get "rape" as a charge here, but maybe something like blackmail.

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  103. Oh I seeeeeeeeeeee. Interesting .-.

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  104. what's the point to bring t-ara here, though? this girl is alsmost a psycho and yet you're worried about dragging t-ara.

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  105. This ain't scandal, this is a psychological thriller crime mystery bad romance film brought to life

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  106. "But to ask me of proof of sexual harassment? I am living proof of it."

    Okay but we're going to need text messages, pictures of her, ANYTHING to prove any of this is true. Again, we only have a couple screen caps and a cut off selfie.

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  107. 멘붕 boom boom boom

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  108. Damn you believe random people on the internet easily.

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  109. yup no evidence, she handles her image well

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  110. so no reason to witch hunt her. ok got it : ) thanks ~

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  111. I'm guessing for money reason, either she had a really big sponsor or her parents are rich enough to support the group into their debut.

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  112. I'm wondering what's going to be the big finale...

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  113. Also, it's not like Korea's that accepting of people who are of colour, trans, gay/bi/pan/asexual etc, it's not like Europe or the US where you can just come out and expect at least a small minority of people to support you. Why would these girls risk being hated by an entire country by revealing all of this, whilst revealing their sexuality, if there wasn't at least some truth to what they were saying?

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  114. sound real but............. lolol.

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  115. ikr a really hardcore woollim stan friend of mine was really angry because i didn't believe jisoo was innocent

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  116. well if she is really how they described her well.... she won't be the first trainee to exchange debut for sex...
    But i hope it's note true, this is kinda scary..

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  117. Oh I don't even want to imagine it lol

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  118. I think they were expecting her to blow up kind of like Suzy, IU, etc. Apparently she already had a decent fanbase before the debut even happened. At one point when you invest it sort of just becomes business risk, you know?

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  119. 50 shades of Jisoo

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  120. she has fans already?

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  121. do you know that even if victims have something like this they can be sued for revealing a personal photos/films of her?

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  122. i've seen people trying to say that "girls don't rape, lmao" that's probably the most dumb argument you could ever have, it's just so stupid.

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  123. I'm just going to sa neutral on this until she's proven guilty or innocent. Liking girls is not a crime, having sex with a girl is not a crime etc. but if she did force someone do something then it's a another story... But there's no concrete evidence to any direction... I'm just confused and try to not have an opinion.

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  124. Not making any judgments on her until the official investiation is finished. I'm amazed by the number of people who want her evicted from the group, it's like most people didn't learn anything from the T-ara scandal at all.

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  125. And i thought that Korea was a sexually conservative country...

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  126. Some use on OH Have found that the butt plug picture in the kakao talk was fake. If this is fake and was taken from google, IT's hard to know what is real or not.


    I would post a link but.....IT's a but plug.

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  127. ...okay and for the rest of us who don't speak korean?

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  128. this isn't your average "underage drinking and smoking" rumor. this is a rape accusation. if after everything we know of how rape cases are handled (i.e. only a small percentage gets reported and out of those cases only a few rapists get convicted while the percentage of false rape accusations is very low) your stance is to label this as a "witch hunt" then get some fucking perspective. there is a time and a place to play that tired ~devil's advocate~ role and this isn't it. bye.

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  129. she must be the illegitimate daughter of the ceo cuz this is a mess

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  130. Just the first story is sad , the other ones just show how she like to has sex ,

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  131. Right. Something in the milk ain't clean. Other girls were kicked out for just having boyfriends. And she's out here sexually harassing girls while she has a boyfriend, and nothing happens?


    I"m shocked they knew about this 2 years ago and did nothing. Also surprised there seems to be so many victims. This chick is a sociopath.

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  132. naeun is the tru baeNovember 10, 2014 at 5:25 PM

    If it's true then I want Jisoo to get kicked out of the group. The other girls have nothing to do with this scandal so I hope no one in a show will ask them about it.

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  133. People have dug up some manipulated pics from the internet tho
    http://scandaldetective.tumblr.com/

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  134. Stop exaggerating, they aren't going to be hated by the "entire country" for coming out. Are all the top comments even mentioning how her sexual orientation? No.

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  135. the thing is tara scandal started by someone with mental issues who pretended to be hwayoungs cousin who made the rest sound like bullying psychos when she was the one with mental issues


    there are two possibilites of this story as well either jisoo is what she is the despicable human being she is described as or the person who is writing this has mental problems as well

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  136. i always thought woollim was a good company... if this is true, why would they keep a trainee like that? why would they be FOND of her?

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  137. this had better not affect the success of the other 7 girls (or even infinite and nell...)

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  138. what butt plug picture, the picture of the one actually IN the girl or the one with the tail in the white background?


    ....please excuse how perverted that sounded. x_x

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  139. I asked for a resume to know what's going on .... Anyway there's no way you know more than I do . But if someone is suspect of animal abuse that person should be banned of the entertainment world , I'd abandon my bias if she were a suspect of animal abused . I can't with that

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  140. If people call her disgusting and make her out to be some horrible being without actualy evidence then yes it is a witch hunt.

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  141. The way I see it, since Woollim is a subsidiary of SM ENT. they're gonna find a way to sweep this under the rug. Seriously, what's up with this year? It just keeps getting dirtier and dirtier... wonder what the last scandal of the year will be...

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  142. Yes woolim stans, those who will support that company artists.

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  143. If this is true... Idk what to say..
    But to think that she was going to debut as "oh i'm cute version who knows nothing about sex", it really pisses me off, and makes me feel srsly uncomfortable about groups with similar concepts, because you just don't know what's under that act, but ppl think they have the right to call girls with reaveling/provocative concepts sl*ts.
    Moral of the story, your concept should NEVER give you privilage over other concepts, because YOU ARE ALL LIERS!

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  144. How do you have a scandal and you havent even debuted yet. Well, I wish the best to whoever is right in the situation.

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  145. all companies want money but i thought woollim at least had morals

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  146. Yup we both don't know if its true or false.



    But you are teh one calling her a sick bitch and asking for her not to debut.



    For all you know the stuff said about her can be easily wrong.

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  147. So the picture that post of the "ex Girlfriend" like a proof is actually a picture of a japanese porn star. So it look like what she said is false. Maybe jisoo is innocent.

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  148. IthoughtIkneweverythingNovember 10, 2014 at 5:29 PM

    O_O is that her?!!!

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  149. eeek this disgust me. even her face look shitty. trying to act innocemt in debut pic. anyway , if she is talented , she will be solo . so juz kik her out of grp. since she said she is bullied by the other trainees. so whats the point of joining a grp ? like this she is ruining other innocent member .

    we are human, we know that the other member doesnt want her in the grp either.

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  150. Okay as more evidence is coming out I'm starting to doubt Jisoo and side eyeing Woolim. Ugh as Miss Phaedra says "Fix it Jesus"

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  151. only in the sense that such things are not widely talked about. but stuff like this happens just as much as it does anywhere else

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  152. there's definitely some level of truth to these rumors cuz the accusations against her are too serious

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  153. get some fucking perspective [2]

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  154. I can't say for sure these allegations are true, but showing off how she sent them pictures gives it so credit. But lets say it is true. She is neither a lesbian or a bisexual woman, she is a psychopath

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  155. Wow, this is just so horrible. And to those who think people Jisoo's age aren't capable of doing things like that, wake up. Stuff like this happens everyday, but since they are "young" and innocent looking, these things are easily dismissed and the 'accusers' are thought of as liars.


    But! I'm not going to straight up believe everything that's been said. We'll all just have to wait for more to come up. But don't forget it's 2014, and mostly all the rumors this year have turned all to be true. And I don't think any sane person would make up something so horrible and out theirself for their sexuality(being a Korean). Luul, such a lose/lose situation. The girl is damned if she is innocent and she sure as hell is damned if these rumors are true.

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  156. If this results to be false, Nell can make a mini album with a similar storyline but from a psychologic pov, like dream theater's six degrees of inner turbulence

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  157. So wrong, so wrong...

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  158. even if that was fake, what about everything else that's been corroborated?

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  159. keep hating on peopel because some random people on the internet said bad shit about them and you don'T even know if its true :D

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  160. That's what I call a real shitstorm, there are a lot of thing going on and I don't have choice but staying in the middle. We don't know if if true or not... so! But still shocking, why someone would release this kind of rumor for nothing? You know... or someone hates her so much (destroying her life/career forever) or is true.

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  161. To people who are saying all of this is because she is bisexual:

    People like you are exactly the reason that these stupid, ridiculous stereotypes still exist in the first place. Do you understand how damaging saying something like this is? We already have enough stereotypes pitted against us. Do you know how horrible it feels to not have your sexuality taken seriously both outside and within a community that should embrace you with open arms? It's always "choose a side", "you're making this up to be trendy", "you're a slut", "want to have a threesome?".



    Rape is a very serious thing, and to say that someone who just happens to be attracted to more than one gender is a rapist and an abuser just because of this is toxic and problematic, and reinforces the harmful behaviors that created the stereotypes in the first place.


    Please think before you type.

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  162. why mix fake stuff with the real? everything else is already shocking enough

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  163. I don't know what I think. The selcas Jisoo allegedly sent the victims were all already known to fansites (they have copies without the watermarks) before this, and the buttplug picture is fake and taken from Google images.


    But the fact that there seem to be multiple victims and their stories all line up with each other and do sound characteristic of a sexual abuser make me wonder if this is true. I just don't know.

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  164. keep contributing to a society that makes it hard for rape victims to come out and seek justice :D

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  165. From one bisexual to another: thanks for saying this and for sticking up for our community.

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  166. because of infinite......

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  167. Same. I definitely couldn't have said this any better myself.

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  168. the only reason im more inclined to believe the girls posting all of this up is because rape victims generally get things turned on them and get blamed for ruining their assailants lives.
    you'll feel like crap if in the end you sided with whoever was lying but jisoo will either be innocent or a rapist, while the others girls will be the ones who tried to ruin jisoo or the ones who actually ruined jisoo. they're screwed either way

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  169. the one in the girl here's the post http://scandaldetective.tumblr.com/

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  170. IthoughtIkneweverythingNovember 10, 2014 at 5:34 PM

    http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mama5yGhLK1qf4i5eo1_500.gif

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  171. Nah i think we shoudl do it your way. Believe every random person and throw every accused person into jail because someone said they did bad shit.

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  172. As much as I want to remain neutral on this it's really hard for me to. If this is proven false then I was wrong for siding with the victims but as of now, I can't help but do so. This is more then girls saying they were bullied by her, these are women talking openly about being involved with her and being manipulated, harassed, and having their privacy violated and I can imagine that it's easier to cover up girl to girl abuse then if it was the opposite sex. I hope that a proper investigation is conducted and I hope that only then will her future within the group be decided.

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  173. thank you, you deserve a cookie u___u

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  174. " Seo Jisoo was also apparently extremely manipulate, lying to the company that she was being bullied by the other trainees and crying whenever her rumors were brought up "

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  175. it will be the most horrible scandal in 2014

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  176. Okay when you're in a relationship and you trust that person who would think that their s/o would be this psychotic and messy and think to themselves to take pics. Any one in the right mind would try to delete their hurtful past.

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  177. yeah because all rape cases always end with people in jail. not like the victims get put through hell to prove it even happened to them and that they weren't at fault for the rape. get some fucking perspective [3]

    like I know you're probably 12 years old but read up on things beforehand if you wanna play devil's advocate.

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  178. give her a cake for the worst scandal in this year

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  179. Maybe Woollim didn't know.

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  180. In Kpop maybe but the army scandals are the worst

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  181. wow!!!!
    it's disgusting

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  182. so she could have abused people /in/ woollim, and if this turns out to be true, and woollim is a shittier company than people thought, there could be much worse things going on...? im just so angry at either someone who made this up or the fact woollim is crappy

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  183. Well in you rworld. i could write online that my friend raped me and you fuckign believe me and would say my friend should be thrown in jail is a horrible person or whatever. you densE?

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  184. Why would they make gay rumors for a girl tho. its so uncommon.

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