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Monday, September 1, 2014

Another female student jumps to her death from iljin bullying

Article: Female student jumps to her death and reveals 'school violence'... police investigations

Source:
Yonhap News via Nate

A 17 year old student jumped off her apartment building after leaving behind a will that detailed names of the students who had bullied her at school. It had written, "I think the pain and the tears I suffered because of you guys are now going to disappear", "It was easier for me to breathe this morning because you beat me with your fists instead", "You called me out to beat me", "You hit me while pretending to push my hair to the side", "I thought I was going to get depression because of you", "I bet you will get lots of reports if the freshmen grade is consulted. Don't hurt kids, it will all come back to you".

1. [+719, -18] It's time we get rid of the juvenile protection act... The type of violence that kids commit nowadays have crossed the line already.

2. [+605, -2] Pisses me off to think that they will still lead normal lives after that

3. [+524, -5] We live in a world where iljins like them can still make a living off of TV just because they're pretty/handsome

4. [+25, -0] Why would you kill yourself, you foolish girl! You should've at least set fire to their houses!!!!

5. [+20, -0] Doesn't matter because the iljins will move on just fine with their lives. If I ever was in a situation where I wanted to commit suicide, I'd go down after torturing them in all sorts of ways. Why not die after I've paid them back?

6. [+20, -0] Iljins will never learn. There's no point in taking them to the law or forgiving them.

7. [+19, -0] This is a world where iljins become singers

8. [+12, -0] This is why iljins can't be allowed on TV... imagine what the victims are feeling as they watch them smile on TV.

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101 comments:

  1. RIP to the girl tho.

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  2. May she rest in peace. Nobody should have to go through that.

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  3. I agree with the last sentence on number 4. R.I.P.

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  4. I would rather take them with me though if it ever came to that.


    It's not to say that it would be morally justified.

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  5. Send them to the army. The Iljin Division.

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  6. Make them eat shit.

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  7. Bullying is the most atrocious thing. As bad as suicide is, under circumstances like this it "feels" like the only escape. If only she wasn't silenced and had more support.

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  8. 1. [+719, -18] It's time we get rid of the juvenile protection act... The type of violence that kids commit nowadays have crossed the line already.

    yes they should. this is outrageous! these girls and guys who bully other people are just insecure about themselves. they are worse than murders. making an innocent person suffer from torture everyday is worse than being stabbed with a knife and dying instantly. it's mental and physical abuse.

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  9. onmywaytobullyyourfavesSeptember 1, 2014 at 8:37 PM

    I hope she's in a better place now. And I'm just going to say that people can also kill themselves from mental bullying so what about netizens stop making harsh comments about celebrities on the internet too?

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  10. RIP. It's heartbreaking to think that the only way out for her was to die. But the sad truth is that even if she told her parents or consulted her school, they probably would not believe her or side with the bullies since iljins are usually masters at manipulation.

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  11. Don't take life for granted, even if it's hard, fight for it, those people will move on living like nothing happened and you will miss out on a full life, and the people that love you will always miss you and be hurt by it :(

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  12. this is really sad and i agree that something should be done.
    I'm confused though, because i think knetz use the word "iljin" to refer to kids who drank and smoked underage. how do we know if a celebrity bullied someone or if they just drank and smoked?

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  13. "1. [+719, -18] It's time we get rid of the juvenile protection act... The type of violence that kids commit nowadays have crossed the line already. "

    There's a juvenile protection act?! Wtf for...... better spend your time protecting those kids that got bullied / beaten up in school who are suffering so much in silence. My condolences to the girl and her family.

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  14. Remind me one of SUJU's movie what is it? pin up boy? haaha eat shit

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  15. Why kill yourself :< sigh rip girl

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  17. 8. [+12, -0] This is why iljins can't be allowed on TV... imagine what the victims are feeling as they watch them smile on TV.

    Agreed and RIP to the girl..i hope she is in a better place now

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  18. Bullying should be name as attempted murder. It's like society never learns to handle this mess. Just imagine 10 years from now smh

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  19. Lmao!!! I remember that

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  20. well they might, considering all the bruises on her body

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  21. a world full of hate is a sad one... i just can't understand the mentality that hurt others to feel good i would be miserable if i did that!! :(

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  22. Who wants to watch Mourning Grave(assuming English Subtitles are there)?

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  23. Bullying is such a vile act, it really needs to be more of a concern. A lot of people disregard bullying when it can cause young men and women, teenagers, and even children to do this to themselves. I pray for her family and R.I.P. to the girl.🙏

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  24. Rest in Peace.I hope karma gets back at the monsters who made the girl suffer like this

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  25. (First RIP to the poor girl. Pray for the parents that lost their baby girl.)
    Why can't Korea make laws against this kind bullying that happens in schools. There should be a law that protects this children. When i see dramas that has bullies that are bullying the students even thought it's drama it makes me sick of them. I agree with last comment, if someone who made your life living hell for you and you see them being famous and having thousands people loving them will piss me of. I hope a low is passed on to do something about the iljin bullying.

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  26. Damn, Korea needs to really do somethig about iljins... These poor victims have nowhere to turn to and then they eventually turn to suicide... RIP to the girl.

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  27. sometimes they just can't take the mental pain anymore and think there is no other resort, i've been a victim of bullying of some sort, and i'm sure all of us had. the numerous times i've been called worthless or a bitch, i ignored them, but it does get to your head once it's repeated everyday. there are times when i wonder if i'm really worthless? that's why I applaud idols, for having a strong mentality to withstand so much hate

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  28. Why?....did you not read what she left??

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  29. Disugting, they ruin someone's life and push them to sucide then continue to live their lives like nothing happend, I wish if there is some kinda of law to punish bullies.

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  30. How do these iljins live with themselves after doing these treacherous things to other kids...what goes around comes back around. Treat others the way you want to be treated.
    RIP to this girl.

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  31. "1. [+719, -18] It's time we get rid of the juvenile protection act... The type of violence that kids commit nowadays have crossed the line already. "

    There's a juvenile protection act?! Wtf for...... better spend your time protecting those kids that got bullied / beaten up in school who are suffering so much in silence. My condolences to the girl and her family.

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  32. I understand why the iljin idols are such a problem, but they should do something about it before this things happen.

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  33. "It was easier for me to breathe this morning because you beat me with your fists instead"
    Rest in peace. Hope she is in better place now. And pray for her family too. The murders have to pay for their crimes.

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  34. I will make sure to kill them before I kill myself.

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  35. Aww :( why did u jump? Dont be stupid!! You shouldve talked to your friends or parents so they could help you! Korea needs to do something about iljins.. and its sad that some iljins are kpop idols smh.. anyways Rip :'( ughh this made me cry.

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  36. Bullies piss me off so much. I mean, what the hell do people gain by picking on others?! Why do they do it?? Haven't they learned already that bullying kills??? God. I hope those kids get what they deserve. Bullying is one of the things in the world that I really can't forgive for.

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  37. XXX_BAPxSECRETxUNTOUCHSeptember 1, 2014 at 8:48 PM

    Does kanye know your hear?

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  38. People who has any kind of satisfaction making others (people that haven't done literally ANY harm) suffer like this are fucked up sick fucks. Fuck juvenile protection, we don't need humans like this in this planet. The less the better.

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  39. 5. [+20, -0] Doesn't matter because the iljins will move on just fine with their
    lives. If I ever was in a situation where I wanted to commit suicide, I'd go down after torturing them in all sorts of ways. Why not die after I've paid them back?
    THIS! I will teach my kids the concept of an eye for an eye because kids are mean,and they have always been.Don't go down without a fight with the ones who caused you grief and distress.

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  40. They need to be called out for what they did..make those kids read that letter themselves. Lets seenif they get emotional

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  41. I hope they cant sleep because of the guilt

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  42. its so weird to me I have never seen anyone bullied in my life. I only seen this stuff in american movies always thought its exaggerated. i dont understand this. what do other student do, just watch?

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  43. Rip. If you haven't seen "Don't cry Mommy" it's a must. Based on true events. It's hard to watch...

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  44. I hope the guilt eats them alive

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  45. It'd help with sasaengs too.

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  46. XXX_BAPxSECRETxUNTOUCHSeptember 1, 2014 at 8:54 PM

    Iljins=bullys
    Theres a strong chance that 95% of iljins do drugs&drink or just break the law constantly. However not all underage drinkers are bullys. My cousin started smoking at 11 but hes some kind of scientist now. He didnt mess around in school but he cant live without a fag (8 or more a day now).Hope that helps. Underage smokers&drinkers are sterotyped to be iljins when really there not :-/

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  47. May karma get her haters....R.I.P.....

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  48. I'll never understand people who beat/curse at other people for NO REASON at all... like... why?
    You're bored? Read a book/ watch a movie or play computer... ugh.

    Rest in Peace darling. Hope you're happier now. :)

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  49. About the person you're talking about, the rumors are not only "smoking or drinking" He also beat up a kid, probably more given his 'status'

    Too bad YG will not talk about this issue, not even try to prove his "innocence". The fact that his innocence isn't even being tried to be presented speaks badly about the situation.

    If he was indeed an iljin, imagine the idea of him not having to face any consequences while the victim(s) have to see his smiling face on TV.



    Hope things are clarified, though they most likely won't.

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  50. Has anyone seen the documentary Bully? An eyeopener as to how useless schools can be in bullying situations.

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  51. bullying ... that word brings back so many memories...

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  52. They need to do something and act fast because she won't be the last to take her own life because of these dicks. We need tougher laws in this world so that bullies don't win instead they get caught and punished for the pain that they have inflicted on others.
    I hope she's at peace but her family must be so heart broken. RIP 🙏❤️

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  53. Totally agree. What's worse is that people think that they repent. Maybe a very, very small minority of them do, but I can promise you that most of them don't. How do I know? Because those are the people who grow up to be the assholes that bother you in the workplace or are the corrupt CEOs, govt officials, etc who abuse their power. If only the law took care of them right at the start, it would be a much nicer world for the rest of us.

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  54. RIP. That is seriously so heartbreaking. And I agree with the netizens when they said that the juvenile delinquent act should be removed. Criminals, no matter how young or old they are, should not be let off that easily.

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  55. It's not stupidity. Just understand how much pain this girl was experiencing that death is the only escape she has. And you don't even know what her situation is regarding her friends and family.

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  56. XXX_BAPxSECRETxUNTOUCHSeptember 1, 2014 at 8:58 PM

    ....?
    Murder is WRONG -.-
    WTF? And so is suicide. Why do you want to kill yourself? Dont cheat your way out of life by killing yourself. Its low, really low. Seek help but dont kill yourself!! Imagine the impact it can have on people around you. Running away from your problems isnt going to help.

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  57. These are iljins, ladies and gents. That's why when an idol is suspected of being an iljin in the past, it becomes a big issue.

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  58. Number four though... I agree.

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  59. Loss of life always makes me sad, but I'll be honest, I do not understand people's decision to then take their lives as a result a result of bullying. I understand that there are many psychological things at play, but for someone who never saw anyone bullied to that extreme while at school and came from a "suck it, overcome it" type of upbringing, it's really difficult to grasp. Either way, I wish her and her family peace. As for the bullies, I won't even spare a thought on them.

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  60. As somebody who has experienced depression, sometimes you just want to make it stop. You can't think of anything else, only that it hurts so much and you want it end.

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  61. i hope karma bites the scum who are responsible for this.r.i.p.

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  62. If it's taken from the perspective of creating better individuals and thus a better society: then why not re-consider relevant laws and educational tools. Bullying. Is inclusive of the lack of ethics and value of ones life/humanity and although the enviroment and circumstance of a person can dicate the latter education can help battle it in some sort whilst laws can re-inforce it's seriousness or severity as well as act as a measure of consequence.

    But eh, its seems that in this world things are easier said than done or implemented but here's to a hopeful eye opener on this issue ... before more lives are lost.

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  63. His innocence was already proven and that person who wrote that article is known are spreading false information

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  64. I understood if 8 or 9 years olds are bullying each other, since they are young and can't tell right from wrong.

    But if you are 15 years old and above and still do this, i think that's certainly on purpose and you are old enough to get the consenquences and punishments for your bullying.

    In my honest opinions, bullies should be immediately punched in the face by the victims, so if they victimized 20 ppl, imagine how many punches they will receive. Spread this around so bullies will be scared, most effective solution ever!

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  65. most of the other students just watch for fear that they too can get bullied. There's an issue of bullying and an issue of just watching someone get bullied.

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  66. I've only encountered verbal bullying and yeah.... people just watch.... and maybe laugh at the victim too. It's hard to have the "moral courage" to go up against the bully in real life situations.

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  67. If I were her, I would never sacrifice my life for them. I would live well, eat well, sleep well, and later become someone awesome to throw it back in their faces. It's so unfair that things like this happen to the good/innocent people, but the bad kids still get the last laugh. If the government knows about iljins and Korea's bullying scene, why don't they take adequate action? Do teachers and school administrators really know nothing at all?


    It frustrates me that she didn't even ask for help because it would probably make the situation worse. So horrible.

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  68. In my opinion, all teachers know who the bullies are. They just pretend not to know until they are cases. You don't know the bullies' parents may be a bigger bullies.

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  69. Um, not worse than murderers, but still very bad. Also there's times where you can get beaten, stabbed, and shot yet you don't die right away.

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  70. I think 'iljin' just translates to 'delinquents' and dictionary meaning of 'delinquents' meant kids who commits wrongful acts and crime.

    That is probably why some articles naming good delinquents (I think from Winner's article somebody said that and some others - smoking and drinking) and bad kinds (bullies).

    All of the sudden I thinking of Gokusen....

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  71. Why should he declare his innocence if he knows it in himself that he did not bully someone? May I remind you that getting into a fight or 2 =/= bullying

    The more he tries to speak of it, the more talk it sparks. The so called victim has said nothing, maybe that means there isn't one because he was the instigator by insulting his mother?

    Also the rumors are disaproved because there is no real evidence- yearbook photo? 3rd party accounts that can be fake? A trashy journalist, infamous for being anti yg?
    Please don't go accusing an innocent party when you don't have proof at hand.

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  72. While bullying should be condemned, I cannot help but think that the school system has also contributed to these acts... Bullying would not be this rampant if the school has a system that would not tolerate these acts and if the teachers have been more aware of their students.


    Sure, there is no school that is perfect and that sometimes schools cannot prevent this from happening but in Korea this has become the norm rather than an exception...

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  73. i'd rather take a stab, get beaten, and shot, then suffer years of mental torture and possibly physical torture.

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  74. News like this makes me livid and incredibly sad. It's disgusting that people can behave in such a manner that the other party doesn't know what to do except kill themselves. This life is the only life we are given, it's a gift. And this girl's live was cut short by monsters who made her life a living hell everyday. There is no heaven, reincarnation, the next world, etc.. We've got to make the best of what we've got and this girl wasn't given the decency in this life to experience how beautiful life can be next to all the hurt.

    I hope her suicide will be a wake up call for her bullies and that they will suffer in the aftermath of all this. I hope the authority will do something because this can't be ignored.

    I know what it's like to be outcasted and bullied and it's a wound that still hasn't fully recovered. It changes your personality, the perception of this world and there is always that nagging insecurity that doesn't allow you to fully trust people or believe the things they say.



    RIP

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  75. Most people are just bystanders. Although they want to help and stop what's happening, it's just as hard. They're also scared.

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  76. Disgusting iljins 》=\

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  77. i hope the victims of his bullying r more successful and happier than him now

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  78. If only guilt were a monster...

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  79. stop seeing them like kids ! they lost their innocence a long time ago.
    as long as they will be treated as minors, they will continue to bully other kids because they think they are untouchable.
    they want to act like gangsters ? then punish them like gangsters.
    honestly sometimes i think the korean government will only do something the day one of the bullied kids will go to school and shoot his bullies.
    i hope they will react before that.

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  80. Yeah....it's something I only saw on tv. Nothing extreme like that when I was in school.

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  81. don't call her stupid. You don't really know her situation or who she is.


    Just let her rest in peace.

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  82. What goes around always comes around, always.

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  83. Bullying happens around the world. One of my student just dissappear from college and from home because she was bullied from 1st year. Do you know what the bullies do after knowing she's running away? They throw a party to celebrate her nonexistance :(

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  84. . [+25, -0] Why would you kill yourself, you foolish girl! You should've at least set fire to their houses!!!!


    I think that way, but realistically, if she had sought revenge, the world would just see her as an iljin too, and deserving of all the bad things that happened to her. I wish there was some sort of authorities she could have reported to, though.

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  85. I've always thought verbal bullying was scarier than physical. The words they use to bully you with never goes away. And who knows what goes inside the heads of bullies. They are trash.
    I've tried to stand up against myself but it didn't stop them. I think they weren't fully aware what they were doing is bullying. I don't know. I transferred schools and it stopped.
    And it's wrong of people to think children are "angelic" and innocent. The things they do are sometimes worse than an adult. Now that I think about it, I might've been bullied pre-kindergarten. They threw sand onto me (including my mouth and hair) and said some not so nice words about me all the time. I was too young to defend myself. It might be human nature to gang up and bully the weak.

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  86. I've been through everything except being shot at. I still stand by what I said.

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  87. This is the exact reason why iljins are such a huge deal. Yet on international forums people go on and say how it's not a big deal and people should be given a second chance. They moved on etc. Yet for these victims they nor their familes get a second chance.

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  88. and I respect that, I was just stating my own

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  89. Feel so bad for the poor girl. May she rest in peace. I agree with the Koreans..I'd never commit suicide without getting back at them

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  90. The reason why there is a need for a juvenile protection act is because they're still considered children - they don't have full understanding of what they're doing as adults do. The act places the burden on the families, schools, churches, the justice system, the enforcers of law, the society to teach and guide the children with the right values so they do not become juvenile, and to protect their rights even if they have committed a crime. They still are society's responsibility.

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  91. i thought you said "encouraged" instead of "encountered" and i was horrified lol

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  92. time to scout them in oppar!!! :3
    Lets complete the Iljin Squad!!!

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  93. I'd read this from SJD Peterson's author note of ' TagTeam' novel. (gay novel) feel really sad and want to share it in this article, for it really tell impact of bullying.

    "Tag Team, while a fictional story, deals with some very personal and hard subjects for me. I do not, nor would I ever, take the subjects of pain, loss, depression, or suicide lightly.
    You see, my fifteen-year-old niece, after being bullied for her weight, developed an eating disorder. My sister did what any parent would do and took her to a therapist for help. My niece was put on Prozac, and three weeks later, my sister found her on the kitchen floor with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. She lived three more days. The guilt and heartbreak my sister experienced after her death sent her into severe depression. After four years, she simply couldn’t live with the pain anymore and ended her life as well.
    If you know anyone who has experienced loss and heartbreak, who is experiencing depression or suicidal ideation, please, get them help. Be the helping hand they need to get them back on their feet again—or find someone who can. Never take any threat of suicide as a joke.Never take any threat of suicide as a joke. If you are in crisis or know someone who is, call the United States National Suicide & Crisis Hotline at 1-800-SUICIDE."

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  94. ah, I understand, thank you for explaining thoroughly, however I still think they should alter the act to make it more fair for the victims suffering.

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  95. my grammar is shit when i'm not in school lol

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  96. It was explained that Nam Taehyun got into a fight because he was being bullied about his mother. As far as I know, their are no accounts of people who were bullied by Taehyun, only accounts of people who heard about him getting into a fight.

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  97. Wrong. Whether he is innocent or not is not relevant here. The rumour is well known, and it has the potential to ruin his image as it is already doing. This is just common sense in management. He SHOULD come out with a statement, not to prove his innocence but to acknowledge the issue. even if he comes out with something to say people will still suspect him but the number will decrease exponentially. It's all about the image.


    The fact that YG hasn't done anything at all is pretty telling.


    Do you think that if that guy that beat up his girlfriend didn't come out with a statement people would think he is innocent? Of course not.


    Also there are many reasons why a victim wouldn't come out to say something. They are also risking very precious things if they come out, hell the one trying to push down Taehyun might be the victim themselves without saying so, so weak logic you have there.

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