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Saturday, July 26, 2014

Seungyeon buys a building in Chungdamdong



Article: [Exclusive] KARA Seungyeon becomes the owner of a Chungdamdong building

Source: Korea Econ via Naver

1. [+4,773, -71] So stop feeling bad for her. She's rich and has enough to live off of. It's the KARA fans who got betrayed by DSP who we should feel bad for.

2. [+4,327, -112] Honestly jealous. Just because she's an idol, she gets into dramas easily and makes lots of money.

3. [+3,532, -53] Well clearly KARA still makes money so it doesn't matter what their image is or how much hate they get.. and the reason they're continuing the group with an extra member.. ㅋ

4. [+807, -17] To be able to buy a 4.5 billion won building at the age of 27... Celebrities better not whine about how hard they have it and how they don't have private lives. If it's so hard for you, quit and go work a regular job until you realize just how good you actually have it.

5. [+509, -10] 4.5 billion won building at 26 years old... It just sounds like a story from another world that I'm not even jealous... ㅋㅋ

6. [+479, -21] Oh look, nuna bought a building with all the money you guys gave her

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225 comments:

  1. [+4,327, -112] Honestly jealous. Just because she's an idol, she gets into dramas easily and makes lots of money.



    actually idols don't make a lot of money because they are so replaceable unless they are THAT amazing which few are. She's making/was making money off kara. I'm glad for her but kara honestly was a success story there are many idols who will never reach this.

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  2. And yet .. Here I am at my 24 years old writing opinions about unknown ppl :( and watching dramas while eating brownies and icream :(

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  3. [+509, -10] 4.5 billion won building at 26 years old... It just sounds
    like a story from another world that I'm not even jealous... ㅋㅋ

    me, 22, sitting here, reading comments on this thread

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  4. It's so obvious that they are jealous lmao

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  5. [+4,327, -112] Honestly jealous. Just because she's an idol, she gets into dramas easily and makes lots of money.

    "Just because she's an idol" the makes it sound like being an idol is an easy thing -_-

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  6. woa kara earns more money than i thought... snsd only bought 3mil at max..

    and here i thought they (or at least one of two of them) sued the company for not paying them...

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  7. 6. [+479, -21] Oh look, nuna bought a building with all the money you guys gave her



    lmao

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  8. I was curios so i did some research. from 2010 till now around 216 groups debuted. Out of them less than 50 are relevant in some way (as in arent nugu nugu) and out of those 50 not nugus groups maybe like less than 10 did real tour (when i say real tour i dont count concerts for 2-3000 ppl in latin america since they barely make a money from concert like that.

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  9. you are not alone :(

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  10. just wanna say one thing

    dont add new member to kara, just leave as 3

    bye

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  11. all the comment just whinning of jealousy

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  12. when will luna? T_T

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  13. Bald Mr.WorldwideJuly 26, 2014 at 12:55 AM

    [+3,532, -53] Well clearly KARA still makes money so it doesn't matter what their image is or how much hate they get.. and the reason they're continuing the group with an extra member.. ㅋ

    The most important comment. This just make them realize it is useless to bitch and hate about a popular group like Kara bc they are still making money.

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  14. http://24.media.tumblr.com/19202c49939ee6d3283ff4f1ea532863/tumblr_mjvf3s2dtG1rf3h19o1_500.gif

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  15. It's frustrating how they're so set on how money makes someone happy. Don't tell someone to suck it up just because some have it worse. It's the same as telling someone not to be happy because others have it betrer.

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  16. damn all that work in japan payed well O___O

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  17. [+807, -17] To be able to buy a 4.5 billion won building at the age of
    27... Celebrities better not whine about how hard they have it and how
    they don't have private lives. If it's so hard for you, quit and go work
    a regular job until you realize just how good you actually have it.

    THIS. I hate it when they complain so heavily. It's like then quit and work a regular job then....you knew the risks and lack of privacy before you joined

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  18. it's like at least 50% of us here. well said.

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  19. ive been feeling this way since i watched rafael nadal become one of the top paid athletes when he was like, 18. or 20. or whatever.


    haha. pats. we're normal, they're not. XD

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  20. celebrities get it easy.

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  21. Meanwhile here I am commenting on this article as I get ready for my graveyard shift. Ugh

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  22. I'm jealous. She bought a building for her future because she knows she will not forever famous tho. Great job seungyeon

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  23. [+4,327, -112] Honestly jealous. Just because she's an idol, she gets into dramas easily and makes lots of money.



    just because she's an idol it doesn't mean things have been a walk in the park. idols give up their adolescence to train like dogs, enter the work force before their peers, with no promise of success and under incredible scrutiny.


    anyway most of her income is from kara's explosive work and success in japan and promoting hallyu there, not some budget kdrama.

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  24. even ordinary worker complains. Why cant idols?

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  25. "It just sounds like a story from another world that I'm not even jealous... ㅋㅋ"
    LMAO

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  26. 4. [+807, -17] To be able to buy a 4.5 billion won building at the age of 27... Celebrities better not whine about how hard they have it and how they don't have private lives. If it's so hard for you, quit and go work a regular job until you realize just how good you actually have it.



    Even billionaires have things they can whine too, it's not always about money. We just have different kind of problem from them.

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  27. and stuck with student loans

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  28. KARA is rich and I'm sure that is a wonderful location, but that building is so drab. Powerwash it and put a coat of paint on it or something.

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  29. Woo yay high five for student loans. :(

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  30. HonorificabilitudinitatibusJuly 26, 2014 at 1:03 AM

    http://www.baraboopubliclibrary.org/sites/www.baraboopubliclibrary.org/files/images/events/feed-me-754690.jpg

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  31. "It's the KARA fans who got betrayed by DSP who we should feel bad for."


    Yeah, DSP is trying so hard to get the fans to accept all their decisions, but most Kamilias are like .... meh, fine. not like I have a choice.

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  32. HonorificabilitudinitatibusJuly 26, 2014 at 1:03 AM

    http://www.internationalteflacademy.com/Portals/67369/images/student-debt-teaching-english-abroad-options.gif

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  33. excuse you but I swear some of this idols have worked long and hard for their money.

    [+807, -17] To be able to buy a 4.5 billion won building at the age of 27... Celebrities better not whine about how hard they have it and how they don't have private lives. If it's so hard for you, quit and go work a regular job until you realize just how good you actually have it.

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  34. HonorificabilitudinitatibusJuly 26, 2014 at 1:06 AM

    http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Environment/Pix/pictures/2013/7/4/1372929546292/Drug-money-010.jpg

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  35. 2. [+4,327, -112] Honestly jealous. Just because she's an idol, she
    gets into dramas easily and makes lots of money.

    sorry babe. the fact that she gets into drama easily bc she is an idol is right, but have you ever thought ab how hard it is for her to become an idol? when you guys are sitting at home doing nothing waiting scandals to come out, she is working day and night like crazy to get this position. Its fair, ok?

    And I bet that you pp at least have complained ab your job once, so why cant these celebs? theyre humans too...

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  36. Ikr but i'm okay as long as Kara fine with it

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  37. Not really, everyone has a right to complain about their job. You can still like what you do and hate certain aspects of it. They might like being an idol, yet at the same hate the shear amount of scrutiny they're under. They know that they'd get scrutinized, how can you not know that when you're signing up for a job like that. But it's like a horror movie; you hear the music, you know what's coming, but as soon as it does you're just as freaked out as ever. They knew it was gonna happen, but that doesn't mean they were prepared for the exact amount of scrutiny they got. Idol groups get different levels of scrutiny, you never know which level your idol group will fall on.


    Either way, celebrities don't have it easy, nor do normal people. Honestly, no one really has it better. The saying, "If you do what you love, you won't work a day in your life" only applies to a select group of people.

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  38. I think it's situational, For example, I think Yunho has every right to complain about the being-poisoned-by-superglue thing, and EXO has a right to complain about people hacking their private cell phones and accounts and bugging their rooms with cameras, etc.

    Just because celebrities choose to be in the spotlight, doesn't mean they lose the right to complain about their rights to privacy and sanity being taken away because of the celebrity disease the destroys the sanity and humanity of their fans.

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  39. because they make less money...if idols hate it so bad then go back to school and get a different job. they go and cry on variety shows..it's like okay...you make millions...obviously not all idols but the big ones do. They knew what they were getting into.

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  40. honestly you could say that about anybody who has a job because there will always be someone that has it worse than you and looks at you in contempt for complaining.

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  41. 4. [+807, -17] To be able to buy a 4.5 billion won building at the age of 27... Celebrities better not whine about how hard they have it and how they don't have private lives. If it's so hard for you, quit and go work a regular job until you realize just how good you actually have it.
    true.
    idols are lucky. they make a lot of money off doing what they love, get free designer clothes, and get extravagant gifts from people they've never met (even when exo wasn't popular kai got 6 macbooks for his birthday)
    why should I pity them for not being able to date freely ?

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  42. OfficialKARALoverJuly 26, 2014 at 1:12 AM

    hehe i don't need to work anymore...because hammie can support me life time hehe


    anyway Just got receive a Gift from Kamilia international and im very happy because its FULL OF HAMMIE PHOTOBOOK hehe

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  43. That doesn't give them any less right to complain. These are two very different things that they're complaining about.
    Normal people might complain about their pay, because that's the situation they're in. Celebrities complain about the scrutiny because that's the situation they're in. You could say that about normal people, too. "If you hate earning so little money, you should've focused more in school and gotten a better job" or something harsh of that sort. Does that make sense to you?

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  44. cause they make way more money and get free gifts from random ass people around the world

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  45. Celebrities are there to entertain, yes, but they have a right to private lives and being respected as human beings too. Most of these kids aren't making bank. KARA hit it big with Japan but most idols are probably getting as much as they would if they had "regular" jobs.

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  46. OfficialKARALoverJuly 26, 2014 at 1:14 AM

    love that GIF hehe

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  47. 216 group? wow....
    but until now i only heard a few of them :\

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  48. it's natural for anyone to complain. Just because one makes a lot of money doesn't mean that they don't feel burdened or their own unique hardships. There are people in this world that struggle EVEN MORE than you and me.

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  49. but they knew the consequences of being a celebrity....being a celebrity = being in the public eye. Didn't a member from U-KISS leave the industry because he was sick and tired of the "celebrity life"? That was a smart move since he was legitimately sick of it.

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  50. 4. [+807, -17] To be able to buy a 4.5 billion won building at the age
    of 27... Celebrities better not whine about how hard they have it and
    how they don't have private lives. If it's so hard for you, quit and go
    work a regular job until you realize just how good you actually have it.

    i kinda agree. :S like celebrities know what they are getting into when they decide to become celebrities... they have to give up some stuff for the cash.

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  51. Well you have to consider the income split between the members. Kara only had 5 vs 9 so yeah....

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  52. i'm extremely jealous. :c

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  53. 내 한국 이름은 태양입니다July 26, 2014 at 1:20 AM

    At least u got brownies and ice cream
    ;(

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  54. Lol you say as if the amount of money they got from their fans is enough to buy a 4.5 billion won building. Get the fact friend.

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  55. Some people just have different priorities. For him, he cared about his health THE MOST, and didn't feel it was worth it.
    For others, they might not feel that way, and so they stick with it. Let them complain every now and then, what's the big deal. I would rather hear they're opinion on all the hate comments they get, rather than have them sit in a corner scared to say anything.

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  56. You sound a bit naive tbh. They might know what they're getting into, but so do many people who don't earn a ton of money, the ones who choose not to live within their means (which applies across all income levels).


    There are parts of a job that are terrible no matter what. They all have a right to vent now and then. The problem with the argument that others have it so much harder is that it's true for almost everyone. There is ALWAYS someone who has it worse than you.

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  57. I don't think most of them realize the intensity of the scrutiny before they sign that contract. Trainees start when they're so young (early teens, pre-teens) , they only see one aspect of their future careers. Being in the public eye should be meant for the stage/shows, honestly. For example, I doubt any of EXO were prepared for mobbing at airports and stalkers breaking into their homes and recording them. It really wears down on everyone's mental state.

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  58. i smell bitter jealousy~~

    "6. [+479, -21] Oh look, nuna bought a building with all the money you guys gave her"

    -just like SNSD, and 2NE1, and Big Bang [buy things with money fans "give" them] :) and well, any other idols. But I bet they wouldn't say this if was an article on their faves buying expensive shit.

    http://www.asianjunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/HatersGonnaHateWheelie.gif

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  59. so Sulli should deal with the hateful comments cuz she's famous and rich, right??

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  60. At least you can eat brownies and ice cream? Half these idols have to starve themselves on the daily and are only allowed to sleep once a week. Trust me, you're fine.

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  61. um no, they still earn more money. Korean employees work their ass off. LIke it's much worse and harder than jobs in the US or UK. That's why the netizens comments are the way that they are. Idols aren't the only one lacking sleep and over-working.

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  62. Money doesn't equal to happiness.

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  63. tbh nowadays if u have a pretty face and u get into a good company u'll become quite popular.. if u cant sing then "rap", if you cant even "rap" then dance... no?

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  64. Like... what were they expecting her to do with the money? Just let it sit there? Don't fans work hard to make their idols succeed? So when they do, they should do something they find useful with the money, otherwise, TECHNICALLY, if fans wanna look at it this way, she basically wasted all your hard work because she did nothing with it.
    Oh, wow, what a weird argument, but whatever, haha.

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  65. yep so T-ara should suck up hate comments, Sulli should get over her depression, and Taeyeon should break up with Baekhyun because fans want it, and fans = $$$

    I mean they ALL new what they were getting into and now they have to deal with it. They'll be alright. They're RICH & Famous!

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  66. You wouldn't think they were lucky if you were an idol yourself, mind you. Being an idol is a double edged sword, you think they get what they get easily? To people it might be all, "just pretty faces, that's all you need' but most of the time, even those "just pretty faces" idols have to work to the bone, to get what people see as a "glamorous" life. I mean, yeah, they get expensive clothes, but expensive clothes =/= glamorous life, really.

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  67. 6. [+479, -21] Oh look, nuna bought a building with all the money you guys gave her



    Yeah because Kara was at home doing nothing while their fans sent them free money. Let's all forget their performances their training endless concerts their hiatus and all the stuff they went through to get to where they are. Let's also disregard the people who made their music and dances and stayed up day an nights Training them,they aradjust receiving free money.

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  68. exactly, but no one says anything when SOSHI buy things with fans money. Replace KARA with T-ara or SOSHI and imagine how butt-hurt these NB comments will be. No more "lmao" then..

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  69. Oh god, i just found out about what student loans are, Thank god, we don't have things like this here. God help you with them, i just read accounts about ppl in their 40-30 and still cannot pay them all! This is so unfair, students loans should not increase with time!

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  70. Yeah because got forbid someone doesn't want to bring their private life in their work life.



    Is not just idols no one likes to bring up their private life to their work life.

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  71. she has a choice to not look at her articles. i do recall a few celebrities who said they don't look at internet comments.

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  72. yea that's life. grow thick skin and suck it up. unless somebody physically assaults her then they are just words.

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  73. Well, how about you don't complain about finals and exams in colege? Since you signed up knowing that you'll have them? Why do ppl complain? Becuase they want to vent ! Are you denying them that becuase they are celebrities?

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  74. Celebrities can complain, just not in public. It made them look whiny and unappreciative. Note the difference between a public figure and a regular employee.

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  75. I didn't say they can't complain, it's that the public isn't going to feel bad for them. k-netz don't give a shit how they feel because they brought it on themselves. american celebs get hated on worse and they complain..yet people still don't give a crap.

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  76. This should be the top comment TBH.

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  77. not gonna lie.. i'm jealous!~~

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  78. 4.5 billion?
    wow!! just wow:)

    http://media2.giphy.com/media/oxtHJvL6UCDvi/giphy.gif

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  79. Or Daniel Radcliffe earned billions before he is even 15.

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  80. oh come on, clearly those trainees are not that dumb. if being a trainee didn't mean knowing more of celebrity/idol life than regular people like us, then idk anymore.

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  81. She definitely didn't have to work her way up to where she is now, nope.

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  82. o_o then shouldn't they not complain about idol life ( excluding really nasty things like sasaeng works) if there were always someone who have it harder?

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  83. We technically didnt "give" them our money. We bought their music. If we wanna go by that netizens logic then the grocery uncle from the mart nearby is driving a bmw from all the money my neighbors and I gave him. 😪😥😓😑

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  84. KARA is on their game. hara has owned a mall for about 2 years now. now hammie has a building

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  85. they are ...
    http://i.imgur.com/Hv3Nu.gif

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  86. http://cdn.gurl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/supernatural-agree.gif

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  87. That mindset is unbelievable.

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  88. I feeeeel you!!!! (can we cyber hug for this emotional moment :(..)

    http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc68fdBOD61riwky8o1_400.gif#sending%20a%20cyber%20hug%20gif%20354x369

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  89. Everyone is clearly missing the keyword here which is boundary. Celebrities can complain (even in public broadcast) about their difficult job if it's on the level of sasaeng installing camera in their hotel room etc. But if he/she started saying things like "My life is so hard, i only get 4 hours of sleep etc" ,then he/she is just being a dickhead. Try saying that sentence to for ex: a doctor. Goodluck then.

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  90. You must be new. She worked her ass off on many shows to get KARA's name out there.

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  91. ...it's sarcasm....

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  92. and it's funny how these bitter bitches say "well they're rich, so they can't complain" when it's KARA. But in Sulli article, they say she's only human and people shouldn't leave hateful comments cuz it hurts her, but i thought SHE SHOULD'VE KNOWN WHAT SHE WAS GETTING INTO?? AND SHE'S RICH SHE'LL BE OKAY???!!!!

    fuck i guess it only counts if it's their oppas/unnies...

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  93. Also, physically harm is much easier to deal with that emotional stress.

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  94. Your grocery uncle drives a bmw???

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  95. The thing is: They knew what they were signing up for

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  96. lol lucky for me it doesnt increase
    since my province is lacking population wise; they want people to stay in the province. So if you stay here for like a year then you get 5% off or smth
    its still a pain in the ass

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  97. That doesnt look like a 4.5 billion won building

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  98. I was being sarcastic but I guess it wasn't read as such? I definitely know of Seungyeons importance during their debut days and forward.

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  99. wait you dont have student loans? how do you pay for college omg where are you from?? i wanna be ur neighbor

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  100. yea ur right but at the same time, they promoted way less than snsd (who is active at both jp n kr) n only focused on Jp cc.. they rly earned a lot more than i think 8D
    No wonder some of them found it enough n quit to purchase another dream... if i earned that much i would jst sit down n invest on something n see money transferred into my bank account every month why bother being an idol? lol

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  101. i wouldnt say billions, more like millions. thought thats still a lot of money

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  102. No one knows EXACTLY what they're signing up for, please. Just because they knew that being in the public eye is going to but a certain amount of stress on them, doesn't mean that they're fully prepared for that reality. It's so easy to say "they knew what they were signing up for" when you're not the one in the situation.

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  103. A lot of students loans

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  104. I assume it's probably the cost of living in that neighborhood.

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  105. Yeah, his wife has a bmw but they usually just drive a rustic van to carry all their stocks and stuff but hes pretty rich

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  106. Pff of course they know, if I wanted to be an idol right now don't you think I would research? Research aside they're surrounded by news, they know the hateful comments and everything else. What are hateful comments of unknown people when you've got security and financial stableness, no debts, good looks and fans?

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  107. well people that decided to join the army also knew the consequences, are you not gonna let them bitch about their hardships too

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  108. Oops sorry! I really thought you were serious lol

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  109. Maybe a luxury neighborhood? Either way it doesn't look it's worth to me. I hope it's a good investment for her

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  110. 6. [+479, -21] Oh look, nuna bought a building with all the money you guys gave her



    this comment tho hahahaha

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  111. whatismyusernameJuly 26, 2014 at 2:10 AM

    here in Indonesia we also don't have student loans :/ usually parents pay the tuition fees, sometimes students work part-time to help their parents, and scholarship

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  112. Im not from the commenter's country but here we also dont have these,actually we get a monthly payment..its not that much but it helps! And school is for free (except for private schools ofcourse)

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  113. they don't actually know what they're signing up for :( idols usually sign their contract while they're young and it's the adults (the company and the parents/guardians) who do the things. and besides trainee life and celebrity/idol life are really different things.


    the dark underbelly of the entertainment industry only shows completely when you're already a part of it (being an idol in this case). the things that are shown in the media is just the tip of the iceberg and the rest cannot be known through "research" alone. you and i really don't know what happens behind the scenes in show business.

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  114. I'm talking about Hs or older trainees, who do know what they're signing up for.
    They can leave whenever they want as long as they pay the fee

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  115. lol I didn't read that with a sarcastic tone either :PPP

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  116. Oh, how naive. There's only so much "research" that can be done and little of that helps prepare them for the MENTAL STRESS. Yeah, they'll know about the sasaengs and the haters, but how is research going to help them deal with the stress that ensues. Moreover, do you think everything about the industry is made known to the public?

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  117. Yeah, it's in Gangnam so no doubt about it being a wealthier neighborhood. It's not the best building to me either (it looks like she was ripped off) but she probably bought it with the plan of having tenants move in and in the long run earn more than she bought it for.

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  118. oh i forget to mention that we have private colleges also (i think thats the right term lol) where you pay for education

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  119. She bought that dump for 3,2 million euro?
    I was looking at this luxury real estate site yesterday, just cz I like looking at pretty homes lol, and she could have spent 4 million and buy an amazing house In Spain, Portugal, Scotland etc. Real good investments.
    Her money, her choice of course but Korea's known for its high real estate prices that just aren't worth it.....

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  120. Do you honestly think any of them is naive enough to think the entertainment industry is some fantasy land? You and every other defender can perfectly guess all the dark, bad bad (awww) stuff that goes down apparently, why wouldn't they be able to do the same?
    And they can leave whenever they want, if it gets too much. But the thing is, this is what they chose to do. And they have it much better than average SKoreans.

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  121. Hah that gif
    Life goals
    Yet I am still stumbling at life and have no idea what should i do

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  122. student loan peeps group hug!!!!!!

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  123. First, I'm loving your username and that dp lmao.
    Second, it def looks like she was ripped off big time and I doubt a loaded tenant would ever live in that building. Also, it being in Gangnam, I'm sure half or more of what she paid is the 'name', just like with designer brands.

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  124. Me, 22 years old, sad and rad and confuse with life

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  125. broke people unite~

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  126. I know right? Which loaded person would even live in that house? If they care about living the luxury and boasting about their house, they wouldn't even come near this building tbh. Nevertheless, what do I know about SKorean real estate. Hopefulyl it'll pay off...

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  127. "They can leave whenever they want"
    but contract can't be terminated that easily though :O (unless of course they pay the company the amount of money invested for that particular trainee)

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  128. Gurlllllllllllll that's the good life, change that sad fce for a happy one, here :)

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  129. MTE. To get any money back from that glorified warehouse, she'd have to restore the entire building and spend another 5 mil doing so. Bad investment is baaaaaaad. You have money so if you're buying property, make sure it's at least worth it dang it.

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  130. A person who cares more for their mental health would pay that, given they're crying on TV about how bad they have it.

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  131. Place looks pretty shitty judging by the picture. I'm assuming she's going to tear it down or fix it up. Something a long those lines. Doesn't look worth it. Welp, her money her choice.

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  132. Did I say that they thought it was fantasy land? No, hell I even listed that shit they know they have to go through. But just because they are aware of such things doesn't mean they're PREPARED for it. There's no possible way of being fully prepared that level of stress. How hard is that to process?

    Did they sign up for it? Yes. Are they prepared? Most likely not. Do they have a right to complain? They have as much of a right to complain about their haters as you do with your homework and exams.

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  133. Do you honestly think salarymen and other office working people don't get stressed out or overworked? How do they have it worse? Why are you making personal insults at me anyway, lol. Calm down, seriously.


    Constantly complaining in faces of people who have it much worse than you, shedding tears as if you're the most pitiful person in the room is what's annoying, not casual complaining. No one's judging that.

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  134. I want too join this cyber hug too... I got 20K student loans need to be paid :'(

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  135. I don't think someone who's rich enough would even rent out a building to live in, they'd already have their own private properties to tend to.
    I guess it's more of the students who'd want to live somewhere affluent but still have a budget to consider or someone who rents it out for an office, studio or some other small private business. And agree, bragging rights of having property in one of the richest parts of Seoul (even if it's pretty crappy. she should renovate it)

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  136. Did I say that they don't get stressed or overworked? No, I didn't even mention them. I didn't insult you either - you took it as a personal attack.

    They're not complaining in your face, hon. This is the internet. You CHOSE to watch the videos. You CHOSE to read the articles. Just like how they CHOSE to be an idol.

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  137. True, although we don't know what the interior looks like ( I wouldn't want to with that exterior). Small business renting it would be the most likely choice the way I see it but first, she should...I dunno...demolish it and rebuild it?
    lol

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  138. I'm asking you questions, not putting words in your mouth. Idols have it much better than regular people and thus should not complain in their faces as if their lives are the hardest, that's what I'm trying to say.
    "How hard is that to process?"

    Yeah, let's quit internet, stop watching TV, stop reading news, move out of town and live in some wildlife jungle. Just cause I don't want to hear one teen complaining about his superior lifestyle. Lol.

    Why are you not okay with people complaining if you're ok with idols complaining? Don't they have it bad too? :O

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  139. IntenseFeelings_UglySobbingJuly 26, 2014 at 2:47 AM

    lmao do netizens really think being an idol is a walk in a park?

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  140. Where did you even get that?

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  141. IntenseFeelings_UglySobbingJuly 26, 2014 at 2:48 AM

    Where u at? In first world countries like America and Canada, everything is so bloody expensive. At this rate, student loans are going to be a big problem in the future. If not already..

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  142. you're thinking one dimensionally though. this is the exact reason why they just can't leave whenever they want. they don't have enough money to pay the company.


    because in reality, idols only earn very little and those who rake big bucks are very few and rare. the idols only get the bread crumbs when it comes to income division in the company so to speak. and since they can't pay the company, they still continue being an idol up until contract expiration. so idols suck it up and do things they don't want and feel negative emotions towards the lifestyle. this isn't just about them but also other multiple of elements that must be considered in order to understand this situation/topic of ours.


    and besides, there is nothing wrong with crying on tv though. showing emotions is not a crime nor is it uniform and the same for every person :O criticizing them is like an act of a person riding on a high morality horse (which isn't really appealing because it shows some sort of superiority complex)


    gosh, i hope you won't criticize the next person you see crying publicly in your area and think they shouldn't cry because other people have it harder though. that's just :/

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  143. That could work but the buildings around the area are probably as bad, too. It doesn't look like a good investment to me no matter how I look at it tbh...

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  144. Just coz u research and try to understand it doesn't mean you will be prepared to experience it :\
    like seriously, would you know the level of emotional strain being stalked would put on a person just by researching? being young and driven, aspiring idol would think they'd be able to handle those kind of thing but going through it is a different thing..
    and what do you mean no debts? the moment they debut they are shouldered with all the fees that was invested for training and debuting them..they need to pay all those back first before they can actually begin to make a significant amount of money =_=

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  145. The idols who get to complain are the "big ones" though, the ones who actually make money. the other ones need better working hours and everything, yes, but so do other office workers in skorea.


    I find it being considerate to have sense to not complain on TV to people who would give everything to be in your place. Because even if you don't make much, even with the sasaengs (who should totally get jailed cause wtf) you still have the opportunity to make money while doing stuff you love. And a lot of money at that. And you have no critical diseases, above average looks, no loans, no rent, no school... I mean they do have it bad, what with sasaengs and mistreatment and all, but the "regular people" are just the same if not more. That's why I think they shouldn't complain.


    If the person happens to be loaded enough to buy my house with my family in it, good looking with financial security to boot, I would just happen to criticize them

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  146. The only way they "have it better" than the typical salaryman is the monetary compensation they get for it. We clearly have very different thoughts when comes to what's worth it and what's not. So let's just agree to disagree on this aspect, yeah? There's no point.

    See, now you're assuming I'm telling you to get off the internet. If you know that something will bother you in an article, don't read it. If you see something in the article that bothers you, stop reading it and just move on.

    Oh, I'm not bothered. I just like arguing or playing devil's advocate ^w^

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  147. Some of you people are so fucking naive. Do you think young kids sign contracts with big companies thinking that they're going to be hated by the public??? Do you think any of you would think "you know, I'm kind of an idiot/slut/asshole, so maybe I shouldn't sign this because obviously the public will hate me!"


    And how the fuck would people know what they're signing up for??? Obviously companies are not exactly forth coming with information. Like they're just going to pull a 11 year old child aside and be like 'hey, I know you're bout to sign away 12 years of your life to me so I just wanted to let you know that this job involves a lot of stress, an intense lack of sleep/nourishment and possible attempts on your life. And just so you know, you won't see any actual profit for yourself in about 5 years after your debut!"



    And seriously, NO ONE signs up for a lack of privacy. Do you understand the concept of identity theft? Do you understand what breaking and entering is? These CRIMES happen to everyday people too, being an idol doesn't make you any less of a victim. Articles about your idol life is one thing, but to have hoards of fans mobbing you at airports, following you around, waiting outside your house, BREAKING into your house; that is something no one every imagines. Could you even fathom the thought of someone loving you so much they would write you a letter in their own blood??? Can you even imagine going over to shake hands with one of your fans only to find his hand smeared with cum??


    I can tell you right now, that shit isn't written in the fine print of that contract they signed.

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  148. i understand your point :) but i think we can't hold it against them just because they're better off, they don't have any right to voice out frustration and complains :)

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  149. Most Kpop fans are quite young and/or immature and really just don't understand that concept yet.

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  150. I will try to make this simpler.


    > Idols have it bad. Real bad. They're stressed and overworked, they get stalked, their private lives are invaded. This is all bad stuff.
    > They also happen to have the sunshine and laugher of gaining tons of money by doing something they love, getting lots of pricey gifts and having very supportive fans. Also they're good looking, which is a plus in Skorea.
    > Office workers have it bad. They have loans, they have to pay rents if they manage to find a place, they have families to support, they need to pay for everything, critical health conditions, no stable financial status, mistreatment at work and they're overworked.
    > They don't get the good stuff, nuh-uh, and chances are they only chose their job because it pays. Cause that's what real life does to people sometimes.


    Now out of these two, which one do you think would have more right to complain? And I'm not saying idols shouldn't complain mind you, I'm saying they should do it in a humble manner, not repetitively, and with no tears as if they have it worst. If you were an office worker in Skorea, wouldn't you get annoyed too?

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  151. I am not assuming anything, I'm exaggerating so you'll maybe realize how ridiculous it sounds to blame a person for clicking on an article. On seeing people on TV, you don't really have a choice.



    Either way, I guess we're both done, so have a good day and thank you for the conversation.

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  152. Of course. I just think they shouldn't do it publicly and repeatedly. They have friends and families, and fans who will hear them out on social networks. Doing it on TV is just rubbing it in people's faces to me.
    But their work conditions should totally improve, as should other people's. SKorea seems like hell to work in, with the long hours. Shuddersome.

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  153. 5. [+509, -10] 4.5 billion won building at 26 years old... It just sounds like a story from another world that I'm not even jealous... ㅋㅋ



    but you sound really jealous there, eh?

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  154. 11 year old children have parents, you know. And they can leave when they want if it gets too much. It's their choice.

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  155. Now I feel grateful with my tution fee for only usd 200/semester...

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  157. There are plenty of first world countries that don't charge for university.



    American universities and colleges are basically all privately owned, so they charge high tuition fees to pay for their expenses and to turn a profit. They aren't funded by the government like elementary, middle and high schools.

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  158. Oh well, now I feel less shitty about mine. Thank you? And good luck with that number ;~;


    Thank goodness I'm an engineering major x.x

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  159. chundamdong is like 'new york' or 'LA' in korean version so i think that's why it's expensive . The cost of living in there is really high but too bad i think it's not worth it i means she could spent that money for other investment that's more worth it . But that's her own money she can do everything with it

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  160. This. My eyes are super built due to all the eye rolling i do when i read comments excusing the mistreatment idols get. sure they shouldn't complain about simple things but they have saessangs? they're human rights are being violated? no privacy? lack of consideration when it comes to their health? well "lolololol they knew bcuz they signed teh contract and they shouldn't complain cuz of the monayz!11!!!" then you get "bbb-b-b-but they can leave whenever they want!!" are you new? do you not see these lawsuits? the shaming, the backlash, the blacklisting? people who excuse and justify this shit is why the kpop industry is horrendous. Nothing will get better because of the "it can be worse" mentality.

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  161. who do you think signed those contracts for them

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  162. I mean their parents signed it obviously

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  163. And of course those parents would only have their precious little child's sanity and privacy at first thought. Have you ever watched Toddlers and Tiaras? Same concept, parents don't always know what's best for their child, and it's parents who believe their children are their property who are insane.

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  164. That's very much true, as is the fact that they can always leave

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  165. 4.5 billion won is about ~3.8 million usd, i think

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  166. no ones justifying anything, i'm saying it's not worth complaining about to thousands of people who watch you on tv. complain to your parents, friends, fans, do it while seeming humble. go to a therapist, even. what's the point of complaining to people who have it worse repeatedly?

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  167. Everyone have a right to complain about what they are not satisfied about their life. Just coz you feel one have it harder than the other does not justify your reasoning on who has more right to complain or how they go about it.

    Office worker work 5~6 days a week..sometimes overtime but at the end of the day they still go back to their home and to their family. They have a set number of days per year they can take for break, sick leave or holiday. Idols work almost everyday of the year even on national holiday, they dont get to see their family often and they get hate on constantly.

    "They have loans, they have to pay rents if they manage to find a place, they have families to support, they need to pay for everything, critical health conditions, no stable financial status, mistreatment at work and they're overworked"

    And idols dont? most idols are the breadwinner of the family so they have family to support. idol also need to pay for everything just like every other person, they get sick too and they also are exposed to mistreatment at work. As for "no stable financial status", an officer worker get their salary monthly, that's a stable income, the pay might not be enough but it's a stable life. As long as they do their work and produce results they keep their job and get paid. Idols rely heavily on the ability to sell, those things are all out of their hands. even if they put all their effort into anything that they do. if the public or the fans dont buy it, what then.


    Anyway, i think you strongly believe what you believe (just as I do) so i'm just gonna leave it 'til here

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  168. You know, I was hoping someone would say some shit like this.


    First of all, having parents doesn't mean shit. I don't know your age, but frankly there's not a "how to be a successful adult" book waiting for you on your 18th birthday. I sign people--adults, parents, grandparents, etc--up for credit cards everyday at my job (retail if you're wondering). Do you know how many people look at the terms and conditions? The credit cards I'm signing them up for have a 26.99% APR. Do you know how many customer's have changed their mind after seeing that? The answer is none. Because no one ever looks. Because they are too blinded by the save this and that to think shit through. Being a parent doesn't make you holy or whatever.


    And I have no clue what you're talking about, "leave whenever they want"? Are we even looking at the same industry? OFFICE WORKERS can leave whenever they want! Idols are bound by contracts and debts to stay in their companies.

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  169. Smart investment imo. So many people want to live in Gangnam, even more because of Psy. So many young couples, who can't afford the super expensive properties but want to experience the Gangnam lifestyle will be lining up to rent her building.


    4.5 billion won = 4.4~ million usd


    She'll make that in 4 or 5 years.

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  170. Mariana Ferreira AlbuquerqueJuly 26, 2014 at 3:35 AM

    There's some countries where you don't have to pay for them.

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  171. Mariana Ferreira AlbuquerqueJuly 26, 2014 at 3:36 AM

    Northern Europe, for example.

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  172. Can you please calm down? Why are so worked up anyway? Take in some deep breaths lol.

    Office workers can't leave, they don't have any money to do so. Idols who get to complain on tv repeatedly have enough to live their entire lives in comfort, or at least some part of it. I'm talking about the ones who get to complain, you won't see rookies on tv shows being able to speak let alone complain. but rookies take a bet when they're signing the contract. if it doesn't work, they're in debt, but that's it. it's no slavery as everyone seems to convinced it is. it's their job, they can leave, they only have to pay up. if they're that concerned about their mental life, enough to cry to strangers on tv, why wouldn't they? sometimes life doesn't work out, but debt isn't the worst that can happen.

    Also, how's this about your job or my age, and how's that related to being a parent? If you're mplying that no parent reads what they're signing when it comes to their kid, I'd have to say you're wrong for the most part. But ofc there are money crazed ones who sign up their kids for shit they don't want, there's that

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  173. complaining to your parents would seem pointless if they're the ones who signed you up for this in the first place. going to therapy? you realize this is korea where talking about mental illness is looked down on quiet heavily. plus even if they are seeing a therapist, doesn't mean they're automatically happy with their lives. why can't they complain? just cause other people have it worse then other people's problems are irrelevant?? it's ridiculous to police people's feeling based on their income. like their supposed high income (which about like ~5% of idols have) makes up for all the other shit they have to go through. what these idols "complain about in front of thousands of people" puts a spotlight on the terrible practices of the korean industry. you make it sound like they're complaining about their kimchi being too sour or something.

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  174. You are ignoring stuff I said repeatedly though... :c


    They can complain. Of course they can, they should, it's good for health. But not on TV, not while crying, not repeatedly. That will make the public dislike them, and get more hate comments. They have friends, families and fans. And therapists, even.


    Korean working hours and conditions are different, and really bad if I should say so :c 7AM 5PM would be a dream for most I'm sure...


    I am not saying idols don't have it bad... Can you just read my post again? They have it worse than I would want to imagine, what not with the harrassment, but it's still good. They can still live comfortably with no health issues...
    Not all office workers have a stable life unfortunately... So many people are in debt... Education is pricey too, they have to pay for their kids and everything...


    Well I can change my mind ofc but I didn't find anything I haven't thought already in these comments. I thought the same before I learned about the working conditions of SK, but that was years ago so. You might be right though, who knows.

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  175. You don't get diagnosed in therapy, you can get hourly sessions just to vent. Diagnose is psychiatry, therapy is just for venting. (Been there, done that, lol)

    I'm not saying they can't complain. I feel like I'm repeating this. Look, they're complaining about the hate they get while on screen. What does this get them? More hate. See? It doesn't work for them. They should complain, it's healthy, just not on TV.

    I won't even reply to the rest of your comment because you're really putting words in my mouth...

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  176. Apparently the article put the wrong building

    some are saying this is the building seungyeon bought

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtckBWKCQAMFJhF.jpg

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  177. Much better than the other place

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  178. Two of the most prestigious school in my country are public.


    In one of them you can practically pay a penny every term, and in the other one I think it's just 40 usd for each term.

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  179. I'm not getting worked up, ya'll just blowing my mind with this naive ass shit. Like first of all, idols aren't 14 year olds. They have lives too, they have bills too and they most certainly have things to support (EHEM themselves and probably their families too ) and if you call "living in comfort" sharing a small ass dorm with like 3+ people than be my guest. At least office workers have a degree and experience of some kind when they leave their job. Idols are leaving their jobs, probably using all the money they made to pay off debts and still have to find a "regular" job with zero credentials.


    And, you make it sound like living in debt is a walk in the park! Why do you think Economics is required in the USA for students to graduate high school? Because debt is something you might pay for the rest of your life and its not a joke, its not easy and it certainly isn't something someone would take on willingly. And debt is the worse thing that can happen. At least when you're dead, thats it. Debt can carry on for a loooong time after death.


    And finally, I was trying to make a point about people reading contracts before they sign them. You said 11 year olds have parents as if them being adults made them that much more responsible? idk I'm not saying that no parents will look, but most people, even you and I, don't read the "stupid" terms and conditions when we sign up for websites. Why should signing a contract with a company be any different?


    I would love to have this argument all night, but my ass is fucking tired, so I need to go to sleep right now. Have fun with whatever you're going for.

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  180. I would honestly give that up for money I don't care lol


    I still get no sleep might as well make some bucks while at it.


    Maybe the food would be a problem :P

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  181. i meant that as seeking any help for mental health related things is looked down upon. seeing a therapist even for just an hour somehow indicates there's something wrong with you mentally.


    i know you're not saying they can't complain and yes i agree that complaining about hate comments is dumb but i hardly see any actually complaining about it, just saying it hurts them. that's perfectly valid to say. i'm only replying to you based on the comment you made about "leaving whenever they want". it's their choice yes but it's not that easy. their jobs isn't like office workers at all. i'm just shocked because you made it sound sooo simple it's soooooo easy to say it. just leave if you're unhappy!!! like they can just tell their boss bye i hate it here and he'll just let them go. they have contracts and idols contracts tend to last 5+ years. they can leave yes but do they have money for the penalty? note that this is LOTS of money. millions sometimes billions of won we're talking about. for example, DBSK's contract would have cost them several hundred billions of won to get out of. these idols are young, so where would they get this money from? their parents (who signed the contract) probably won't have the money for them. so then that leaves them with breaking it thus filing a lawsuit. now i'm assuming you know what happens when an idol files a lawsuit. then people would say, "well they shouldn't have been an idol in the first place." because an 11 year old clearly thought this all out right.

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  182. /that/ building costs 4.5 billion won? i wonder what it looks like inside.

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  183. As I said before, the ones who get to complain are the ones who have it good. The others don't get to complain, if they even get TV appearances.


    Won't add anything on debt, sorry if I made it sound like a walk in the park but I didn't mean it, I just mean that there are worse things in life. Critical diseases for one. But that's just me.


    Signing up in an artist agency is something important so I think the comparison is a bit off.
    Signing that is really taking a bet. People got to be prepared for the bad stuff if they want the good stuff, that's how life works unfortunately. I'm not saying it should stay as it is, it should be improved ofc, it's just not wise to enter a company thinking everything will be ok and then crying your guts of when you actually make enough money to buy everyone's houses with their families in them. Of course they should complain, just not on TV you know.

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  184. good for her.
    but honestly, among KARA's members. only Park Gyuri that i never heard of any news about her buying something. we heard about SY buying building now, Hara Go is also like a permanent resident for buying something extravagant, Nicole w/her car and her mother's resto, and jiyoung w/her mini cooper car. But i never heard any about gyuri. that girl is soo firm in keeping her own life.

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  185. I just made my first payment a couple days ago. Oh my...my wallet is crying and heart is hurting.

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  186. we're all confused with life. thats why we're here lol

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  187. Companies usually pay those news to not get released. An idol would have to be famous and rich to be that bothered by fans, so I think they could very well hide it. I mean I don't personally believe all of Snsd, say, SuJu, Dbsk etc never went to therapy to get some help. But that's just speculation.


    I think they should still do it on some social network, like exo does. on tv is a bit risky imo.


    They pay penalty, but an idol who's gotten to the point where he wants to quit doing the thing he loves, and lose his job = main income, would have to be super famous and bothered about it. I think they'd still do it if they're that bothered. They might pay, or get in debt, but is that worse than losing their mental health? DBSK made more than the penalty fee. A lot more.
    Lawsuit isn't necessary to get out so not answering to that


    My wrist is hurting so sorry for late replies

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  188. http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/107/227/tumblr_lgxpiaKYy91qa556so1_500.png

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  189. 'oh look, nuna bought a building with all the money you guys gave her'
    sorry but its no longer your money.

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  190. 4. [+807, -17] To be able to buy a 4.5 billion won building at the age of 27... Celebrities better not whine about how hard they have it and how they don't have private lives. If it's so hard for you, quit and go work a regular job until you realize just how good you actually have it.



    Sleep ~3 hours a night and you'll notice how hard they have it

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  191. "An idol would have to be famous and rich to be that bothered by fans" ???? what. so they have to have DBSK/SJ/SNSD levels of fame to be so bothered by fans that they seek therapy?

    social network and tv are basically the same. idols get burnt with their social network posts too.

    but it's not easy to "just" pay the penalty..... especially when you aren't part of the big groups or you don't come from a rich family. you're comment doesn't make sense to me. an idol doesn't have to be super famous to be bothered by their work conditions and want to leave... you're breaking this down into a very simple and very naive process and it's really nothing like that at all. losing their mental health? idols who are so bothered they're ready to leave the job they love are already losing their mental health then you gotta add on debt?! and this debt isn't just $100 but debt most of them will probably have for life... and they're DBSK who had a chance to make most of their money in Japan, now imagine a nobody trying to break out of their contract...

    i'm not saying you're wrong. i mean yes if they don't like their job then just leave right? they have a choice, no one's putting a gun to their head. what i'm telling you is, it's really not as easy as you're making it sound. and with that i'm going to end here. you seem very convinced in your thinking and i don't think you'll budge. this was a great conversation and it was nice talking to you! :D

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  192. well, generally they don't really start being excessively bothersome until you're famous. most people don't care. nugus don't have sasaengs, etc.


    i'm sorry about the leaving part but it's really a simple decision to me, i'd choose to lose money than my mental health tbh. everyone i know (and me) have debts, so maybe that's why i speak of it so easily? cultural difference possibly.


    it was nice talking to you also :) have a good day

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  193. aww i feel you but i have more student loans than you. I guess no weekend rest from my work. ;n;

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