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Thursday, June 19, 2014

[Pann/Instiz] Collection of Taeyeon/Baekhyun's Instagram codes + Sones respond to scandal


Pann: Organization of Taeyeon and Baekhyun's proof posts


1. Similar Instagram IDs and Baekhyun's specific stylization of 'ExO'

This was the first stage in which fans got angry. EXO is obviously the name of Baekhyun's group, and other members stylized the name on their Instagrams as 'EXO SE HUN' etc. Baekhyun is the only one to specifically stylize it as 'ExO'. Why? Because the 'E' and the 'O' in Korean look like 'ㅌ' and 'ㅇ' (Taeyeon's name in Korean 태연)... obviously standing for Taeyeon's 'T' and 'Y'. Fans were angry to see that Baekhyun would use his group name as a code for his girlfriend.


2. Taeyeon's post marks the start of their relationship. "I like you. Can I like you?"



3. "The trip for my dreams, pikachu"

This was the second stage in which fans got angry. At the time of Baekhyun's post, it was the last day of EXO's concert, after Wu Yifan had left. Fans had a slogan event called 'This is the beginning', the same slogan held up by Baekhyun in the picture, along with the text, "This is the beginning! For my dream! The trip for my dreams! Pikachu! This is the beginning!"

Fans at the time had thought that he was starting anew with them by leaving the Kris scandal in the past.

As it turned out, Baekhyun used this event made by his fans as a code with his girlfriend. Taeyeon had previously written on Instagram, "Fresh. This is my beginning now for my dream~ The trip for my dreams pikachu"



4. 'Euri'


Baekhyun: 'Eu! Euri!
Taeyeon: 'Very eurieurie shikye drink! euri #euri'

When fans were abuzz with what this could possibly mean, not many believed it because even to the regular eye, it might look forced (since all they're using is the same word).. but looking back on it now, this was once again a code between the two of them.


5. Fan gifts

Look at the cup. Unique, isn't it? It was specially produced for Taeyeon by her fans. How dare she use 'Taeng kyung very mang ching (thank you very much)' on a post about her fan gifts? Taeng is Taeyeon's nickname while Kyung is Baekhyun's nickname. Sones got very angry over this since 'Taenggo' and 'Baekyung' are popular nicknames for the both of them. 'Taeng kyung' is obviously a code for the two of them.

6. Oreo

The day before the dating news broke out, Taeyeon posted up a picture of an oreo on her Instagram. Obviously Baekhyun's name stands for black and white


7. Baekhyun's birthday

On Baekhyun's birthday, she uploaded a picture of birth flowers along with a heart.


8. Yoona, Taeyeon, Suho, and Baekhyun went to see Seohyun's musical

Despite the fact that Suho had seen it the day before, he went again with Baekhyun.

9. Random picture of light at a beauty salon

Taeyeon randomly uploaded a picture of her beauty salon lights on her Instagram. As you know, EXO have supernatural powers. Baekhyun's is light. This, again, caused fans to be abuzz with speculations.

10. 'Kyahing'

The most famous scandal. Taeyeon used the word 'kyahing' a lot with her fans (it doesn't mean anything, just a cute expression). For EXO's two year anniversary, Baekhyun used the word 'kyahing' while talking with his fans on the official homepage for a fan event.

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Source: Pann

1. [+415, -34] ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ So he was going on dates after Wu Yifan left and EXO was busy redoing their choreography ㅎ So are you 35 now? Because of your words, EXO is now about to fall apart ㅎ

2. [+361, -84] Why EXO ㅡㅡ Baekhyun, you ba$tard, do you think you're in any position to be dating right now? Do you realize what situation your team is in? It hasn't even been that long since your debut and you're dating?

3. [+315, -10] They've been making it obvious for months now tsk

4. [+160, -2] The 'E'x'O' is so shocking. No matter how obvious he wanted to be, how could he use his team name like that;;; Suho-ya, find strength ㅠㅠ

5. [+145, -6] I don't get why celebrities are so against going public but go out of their way to make it this obvious. Do they take people for fools ㅋㅋㅋ ㅡㅡ

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Pann: Sones respond to Taeyeon and Baekhyun's dating

(I'm going to summarize the two main points because it's really long)

We don't care that you're dating. We don't feel betrayed over you dating. There are two points, Taeyeon-ah, to why I'm disappointed. Will you read it, please?

1. You said that Taengstagram was made for you to communicate with your fans. The original intent of it has now changed. Going on dates in an open car is fine. But Taengstagram? You said you started it for your fans. Your fans laughed at every single letter and emoticon you used on your Instagram and worried and felt grateful for you. I know that not every post was made specifically for us but we were still fooled. At least a couple times. That's what makes me mad. Instagram is not a necessity for you dating. You are an SNSD member with hundreds of fans. You should not have done that. Your instagram is a place where only your fans look to you... You should've only looked to us too. That's why you made it, after all.

2. Fans are getting the feeling that SNSD is something only we want to protect. SNSD is made up of nine of you but what's the point without Sones? What's the point of idol groups without fans? We wish the best for you, for your happiness. We invest our time and money and love into you to ensure you the best. Just for the reason that we like you. We shield you, we hurt for you, we support you, we love you, all the while getting hate. We use our precious time in our lives, our emotions, just to protect SNSD. Through all the scandals, through fans leaving, through inactive fanpages... Even though things aren't what they used to be, the rest of us still here do our best for you. We do it in the hopes that you guys don't fall behind. That's how SNSD has made it this far. We've made it this far.

But that was only possible without any issues to SNSD. What are we to do when antis use words that are justified and we have no way to shield you? This year, everything the antis are saying were brought on by your actions. Us fans no longer know where to go.

You know what it feels like? It feels like we spent all day outside fighting with people who talk down my unni/dongseng/family. We come home to be consoled by our family but our family is too busy doing other things to care. We spent our day outside fighting for you but you don't care. That's how it feels.

We love SNSD. We love your songs, your history. You're our singers. We had hope that you'd be different from the other singers. But we guess not. We guess SNSD is uncomfortable for you now. It's too restricting. Now that you're all successful with enough wealth to live on, SNSD is not as important as your personal freedom. That's how it looks like to us.

Now it just feels like us fans are fools, not fans. We feel betrayed. Or, more specifically, we look like fools to the eyes of others... not that it matters. But why does it feel like the SNSD we work so hard to love and protect is looking at us like fools too? I can't be a Sone if this continues.

SNSD, this is the same as you yourselves getting rid of Sones. ...

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1. [+265, -4] I'm sure they had more than enough personal SNS space to communicate between the two of them; Did they have to make it this obvious. By making fools of their fans? They brought this upon themselves.

2. [+224, -8] The reason Sones and EXO fans are so disappointed in you is not because you're dating. You two are in your twenties, not every fan would be against you dating. But the actions you showed us.. posts that we thought you uploaded for us to see, nicknames we gave you... To turn it all into secret codes for each other, masking them as messages to your fans. It makes me so sad and angry that you deceived us. Baekhyun, your promise to wait until 35.. You were the first one in EXO to break it. Taeyeon, all of those messages we thought you were sending us, the same messages we laughed and worried over... Do you not see how we feel? You two practically begged to have your relationship recognized and we recognized it and now we're hurt. Is this what you wanted? We heard your voices and were so happy for you...

3. [+170, -2] Taeyeon-ah, think for a second why people are reacting so differently to your dating news compared to the other members' dating news... Other than a few antis, everyone congratulated and supported the other members' relationships. But just how much pain did you give your fans that fans who braved four dating scandals are broken down like this over yours?

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Pann: Taeyeon's amazing if you think about it..

Going on a date in an open car like that. She basically made it clear that she didn't care if she got caught. What a strong heart she has.

1. [+178, -9] A woman knows a woman best. She's a fox disguised as a bear. Baekhyun-ah, Taeyeon-ah~ Dating's fine but you made a fool of your fans ㅜㅜ Especially Baekhyun, for him to use fanmade placards 'This is the beginning' for that? Please go all the way to marriage ^^ Just how much of a joke did you think of your fans that you made it that obvious on SNS? You thought nothing of your fans but as money machines, yeah? So much hate being written on your Instagrams right now ㅋㅋㅋ You all honestly deserve it. I hope EXO can go as 10 members. To think of the joke you made your fans... It makes me speechless! Taeyeon, the expected junior killer~ Taeyeon, you made it too obvious. Goose bump inducing, really. Have a fun life to the of you. And screw off, lastly. Talk about betrayal!

2. [+133, -14] Taeyeon obviously doesn't care since she's 10 years into her debut ㅋㅋㅋ but does she not have any consideration for Baekhyun who's barely three years in? I can't even shield this, I've just lost all respect for them.

3. [+123, -12] Taeyeon seems immature for her age. Baekhyun's obviously at the height of his popularity right now and has a strong 'boyfriend image' with the females. It looks like she wanted to show off that she's dating him. If she really loved him, she'd recognized that he's at a stage in his career where he can make the most money and that dating news would hinder that... Baekhyun-ah, you're no different. You were so crazed to make it obvious, little codes hidden deep within your Instagram everywhere. Happy 35th birthday. It's not our position to tell you to leave the group but don't you dare act so wise in your interviews from now on.

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Instiz: The current state of Baekhyun's musical... influx of ticket refunds/sales

Whole bunch of Baekhyun's 'Singin in the Rain' musical ticket sales on auction sites.

"This was a grave mistake on their end."

"Made a joke out of their fans... sigh."

"I can understand why..."

"Baekhyun, this is where you're supposed to be. Rock bottom. Fans shielded your disgusting past to the best they could and you betray them like this? ㅋㅋㅋ Your autism comment, your underage smoking, underage drinking.. I was the fool to shield all of that. ㅜㅜ Don't you dare show your face on Inkigayo or anywhere else because I don't even want to see an inch of you."

"The result of you making a fool of your fans. Wake up to reality and apologize."

"Well deserved."

"I refunded as well. I cannot see his face in this current state."

"You brought this upon yourself."

"Us fans covered your past for you... You shouldn't have done this. Date all you want, but why create codes with your girlfriend in a place meant for you to communicate with your fans?"

"He deserves it. I wouldn't want to see his face either. EXO fans are not leaving the fandom because the illusion is shattered or whatever... They're leaving because he made a fool of them."

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128 comments:

  1. EXO --> ㅌxㅇ --> 태연

    well played, bacon

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  2. People need to stop releasing stuff like this, they're just adding fuel to the fire.

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  3. Targaryen_CliqueJune 19, 2014 at 7:19 PM

    Well damn....

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  4. ....backlash makes more sense now

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  5. "Baekhyun, this is where you're supposed to be. Rock bottom. Fans shielded your disgusting past to the best they could and you betray them like this? ㅋㅋㅋ Your autism comment, your underage smoking, underage drinking.. I was the fool to shield all of that. ㅜㅜ Don't you dare show your face on Inkigayo or anywhere else because I don't even want to see an inch of you."



    Double edge sword: Fans

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  6. DeeD Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄ƷJune 19, 2014 at 7:20 PM

    "Baekhyun, this is where you're supposed to be. Rock bottom. Fans shielded your disgusting past to the best they could and you betray them like this? ㅋㅋㅋ Your autism comment, your underage smoking, underage drinking.. I was the fool to shield all of that. ㅜㅜ Don't you dare show your face on Inkigayo or anywhere else because I don't even want to see an inch of you."



    - The only part I agree with is the shielding part, but I will never understand this sense of betrayal. I just don't get it.

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  7. well i can see why some fans are upset..esp the pt where it talks about her instagram

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  8. ....i really cant understand why this is blowing up.

    So they left hints for each other. So what?

    I really dont get whats so morally reprehensible about it.

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  9. Wow, I wonder how much time those two actually took to come up with these codes...
    There are so many it seems they were trying to tell fans about them.

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  10. i'm disgusted with people's reactions. both from fans and fandoms. i give it a week till things start settling down.

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  11. " We shield you, we hurt for you, we support you, we love you, all the while getting hate. We use our precious time in our lives, our emotions, just to protect SNSD. Through all the scandals, through fans leaving, through inactive fanpages... Even though things aren't what they used to be, the rest of us still here do our best for you. We do it in the hopes that you guys don't fall behind. That's how SNSD has made it this far. We've made it this far. "



    I got a bit teary eyed when I read this part. The fans don't care about her dating they just upset because they feel like she used them to protect her relationship, that her IG was there to interact with her boyfriend rather than make memories with them. It's been a trying day today, I'm sure it's just a misunderstanding..

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  12. EXO fans sold their virginities to EXO? If we're talking about 2-faced and betrayal, then aren't the ones leaving the fandom for a non-sensical excused the ones?

    Overstepping into Idols personal lives rather than musical work is what destroys KPOP

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  13. I feel like Tae is the lead in this relationship.....

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  14. A lot more fun to diss about than Kris leaving...

    http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/tee-hee.gif

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  15. 2. [+224, -8] The reason Sones and EXO fans are so disappointed in you is not because you're dating. You two are in your twenties, not every fan would be against you dating. But the actions you showed us.. posts that we thought you uploaded for us to see, nicknames we gave you... To turn it all into secret codes for each other, masking them as messages to your fans. It makes me so sad and angry that you deceived us. Baekhyun, your promise to wait until 35.. You were the first one in EXO to break it. Taeyeon, all of those messages we thought you were sending us, the same messages we laughed and worried over... Do you not see how we feel? You two practically begged to have your relationship recognized and we recognized it and now we're hurt. Is this what you wanted? We heard your voices and were so happy for you...





    THIS

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  16. *sigh* this is gonna be a long year for SM lets hope next year is better

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  17. If the Jia shopping cart scandal didn't exist, this would easily be the stupidest overblown scandal in KPOP history

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  18. https://p.gr-assets.com/540x540/fit/hostedimages/1380380128/736774.gif

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  19. I feel so sad reading what Sones have got to say.. The part that they got hurt just to protect their idols is really saddening. Ironic but true, in the end they will start to forget who brought them up..

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  20. I don't know we've got a kiss picture in a rag top. It's almost as fun as a Kdrama...

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  21. i feel like SM is starting to crack this year. after being careful with scandals, this year has been such a bitch for them

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  22. I feel like sones are finally seeing the light lol

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  23. Big. Fucking. Eyeroll.

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  24. Wait, what autism comment?

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  25. Over emotional much?

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  26. I'm not even mad that they're dating anymore. I'm getting pissed at the fking stupid conspiracy theories that are floating around rn.

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  27. and as soon as oppa goes abroad u cry smuh - - go see baekhyun while u still have a chance

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  28. I just.....i don't....
    http://fourfour.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b8c369e201310fc82601970c-800wi

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  29. Being the most popular female idol is a double edged sword.

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  30. The funniest thing about all of this is, I think I liked that Oreo picture too 😂😂😂

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  31. The conspiracy theories rolling around- But still I don't get why celebs can't use their sns to both communicate with fans and their gf/bf? I guess maybe the fact it was done in secret is agitating but..... why is it becoming so big :/

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  32. wow this getting out of hand..wow

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  33. This is more scarry than one of Thai horror movie I've watched in my life. Korean celebrities dating scandal is such a nightmare. I welcome myself to Kpop. Scarry.

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  34. this is the biggest overreaction to a dating scandal ever omg..

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  35. knetz & inetz are so fucking dramatic it's annoying

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  36. i totally understand fans can feel betrayed and hurt, but still - isn't that too harsh? yes, they shouldn't play like this and fool everyone, but it happened, that can't be helped. honestly..
    https://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m827ukvOvs1rnvlqy.gif

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  37. According to some fans' logic, their favorite idols owe them for supporting their releases, help them win music shows, defend them when scandals come up, etc. In return, they should stay single and not do things that would show that they're ungrateful to their fans' hard work.

    By breaking a promise to fans (Baekhyun) and sending secret love messages on a social media account that was created solely for fans (Taeyeon), they show that they don't give a shit about their fans' feelings.

    It's kind of dumb, to be honest.

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  38. This is way they say fans make the worst anti-fans. They know everything about you plus they feel the hate more

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  39. 5. [+145, -6] I don't get why celebrities are so against going public
    but go out of their way to make it this obvious. Do they take people for
    fools ㅋㅋㅋ ㅡㅡ

    I do agree, they were really /really/ blatant about their relationship and sort of asking to get caught. Taeyeon has a convertible, and the top was down. I'm wondering how they expected the public to react though.

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  40. I get it but I don't get it at the same time.

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  41. Where is the underage smoking though =_= ? Or pp start making things up now =_= ?
    I can defend Taeyeon's IG post cuz it look cute but the way Baek use ㅌxㅇ is so fucking rude, i still congratulate for them but it's seem like it will end very very soon with this kind of all cray negative response :(

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  42. This is why she loves him lol

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqdavUvIcAEifLX.jpg

    if you know what i mean

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  43. I can totally understand fans being hurt since both of them were so messy and childish about the whole thing. SONES especially have done a lot of protect the girls this year and have dealt with so much, to have the leader just be so blatant about everything and use something she said was for fans to flirt with her BF... it must feel bad tbh.


    Though, I hope the other girls feel better now about their scandals! I know Yoona especially felt really guilty, when there was never any reason for her to at all.

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  44. True, but naive fans take it as fanservice to them. Not totally blaming the fans though, but yeah this is starting to blow up really bad, and it's not a good thing.

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  45. My goodness.. 0.0

    At first I thought these comments were funny and weren't a big deal. But seeing the same reaction I guess this is really blowing up. Okay yes Taeyeon and Baekhyun did do some form of lying to fans, but it wasn't THAT awful. It's like the two committed a crime or something...

    Their fans are too emotionally attatched to them. It's touching, but at the same time creepy how invested Sones and EXO fans are. They feel like they have a right to SNSD and EXO. Like they own them . And then there was this part

    ..."SNSD is not as important as your personal freedom."
    Well hell yeah. SNSD is just an idol group. Are they saying that her own happiness should be put aside to please fans first? That she's not entitled to do anything unless it benefits SNSD.
    Jeez I feel bad for Taeyeon and Baekhyun. All they are doing is DATING. Fans are having meltdowns left and right. What a bad situation :/

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  46. commedesfuckdownJune 19, 2014 at 7:34 PM

    This is so cute and creative. He actually managed to combine two very precious things in his life together in three letters. Amazing. Those birthday flowers are romantic as well.
    I guess they shouldnt have used their fan given gifts and meaningful slogans for their personal relationships. For me, as an adult in her twenties, its just laughable, but I kinda feel for teen fans who used their pocket moneys to buy those gifts. Hope these chaos wont lead to break up.

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  47. There is a lot that fans shiled especially Korean fans.

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  48. It means they want them to be celibate or perhaps a little bromance will be tolerated. Nothing with a girl, it's really pretty kinky for young girls.

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  49. Baekhyun Bias here...*waves* yeah...i don't feel used or betrayed. I think it's a cute way for a couple to talk back and forth publicly. I get cute pictures...yay me...they get to flirt and be all loved up.

    It's not just Korea who has this overreaction to dating news. Any country with singers with a young audience gets everything blown out of proportion. I don't what my bias getting screwed over because some child thinks that they have some right to him and his personal relationships.

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  50. Im a SONE and im not leaving the fandom , I'm a little diss apuntes bc I tought my girls were ninjas and experts in dating . But I'll just show more and more support to them .
    About exo ... I feel sad for them

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  51. I need a proper timeline for this ._. I'm one of them that's okay with this. I'm not sure whether Taeyeon is using secret code or not to communicate in her IG coz in the end even the great CSI can make a big mistake from over analyzed. But even if it's true, i can totally understand her but i can understand those who's feeling betrayed.

    Tho i need to say this, get a grip please. Imo, Taeyeon did open it for fans, to share her feeling and everyday things with fans, she's showing she was sad and then she's showing she's happy, but there's no way she can tell us the exact reason why and being direct about it. If one of the post, she's showing that she's happy (but she's also indirectly saying thank u to him) then okay ._.

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  52. Wow these fans are entitled. Do they think they own these idols just because they support them? This isn't one sided, the idols are giving you music, performances, etc in return. They don't owe you anything more than that.


    Idols just need to create a personal SNS account that they can make private. GD just recently did it on Instagram and he must be so happy that he can post and like whatever he wants without his fans breathing down his damn neck.

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  53. Seriously it's like I'm watching a K-drama. It's not even funny anymore how over dramatic they're being.

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  54. Exactly. both fandoms are over exaggerating.
    They post things on their instagram for fans and each other. is it hard to accept? gosh
    there are plenty of fan service post on both their instagrams.
    why so mad that the are also posting little things to each other a bit on THEIR accounts
    I think they wanted to come out to their fans and be celebrated.. nut no..fans being selfish
    If they really dont mind them dating it shouldnt make them so upset..

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  55. i think its because the fans or the idols usually date in secret. if fans knew idols has a gf and then they tweet soemthing related to the girl/boy , i think they will be okay with it. but the message she write, fans thought was for them but it was a code for him.... i think thats why,

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  56. this made me laugh idk why lol XD

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  57. now i have to pay more attention to k-idols' instagram :))

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  58. It's not morally reprehensible, but those fans do a lot to protect them, get called names and get hated on to protect the SNSD (and EXO) name. The only real connection they have is SNS and everything they thought was for them was actually coded messages to each other.


    Fans just need to realize they are just singers and they don't like you as much as they pretend to. They are all too emotionally attached. Harsh lesson to learn though, but I'm sure they'll calm down eventually.

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  59. people should know that when you're an idol nothing is private, you have to live a life where your fans are devoting you and you have an image to care. Idols make money because of that.
    Idols need to learn that there are rules and they accepted it since the beginning so just take all the responsability of your actions.
    I toally agree with the fans being hurt...

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  60. korean fans has a lot of infos that international fans doesnt know.....

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  61. Taeyeon was trying to be cool about her relationship like Sunye, but somehow she failed terribly.
    I hope she at least has the decency to ignore the negativity and just live her life like Sunye. Both leaders get criticized and called out for being irresponsible, but they shuoldn't bow down to fan pressure and change anything because that's pathetic.

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  62. K-pop is interesting again. Although, i feel hell bad for the both of them. The hate is insane! Be happy anyway!

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  63. OMG! to say people are overreacting would be the understatement of the year. these delulu fans be thinking that all idols do is to be geared towards their fans. Yes idols appreciate their fans and all they do for them, but idols have a personal life too! u know, sometimes, people do things cause they want to...shocker i know!!! Maybe her instagram was a way to communicate with her fans, but that doesn't and SHOULDN'T dictate each and every single post she puts up on IG, twitter, etc. So what if they flirted with each other on IG?! Leave them alone!!!

    PS. So basically, during the Kris scandal, they expected all the boys to just stop having a life and mope around about the Kris issue...plz!!!

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  64. All I see is a bunch of people overanalyzing Instagram pictures. read a book plant a tree mow your lawn.
    Taeyeon and Baekhyun don't owe you SHIIIIITTTT

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  65. I think what (at least the sones) are upset about is how Taeyeon used sones as 'shield' to send hints to Baekhyun. They repeat multiple times that they don't care about the dating but only about how she's used them just to send some hints to her boyfriend (which could've been done privately lets be honest).

    I don't think they deserve any hate but I can understand why sones are upset. I think they'll calm down in a few days.

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  66. Taeyeon is such a selfish and irresponsible leader.
    I pity the rest of the members. She not only hurt the SNSD members but EXO members too.

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  67. The fact that they kissing and open the window.. Like they want attention
    So I just want to say that before allkpop forum turn into mess so I like to read some so called "rumour" like personal life but I am focus on "debut or promoting rumour" and suprisingly that's really accurate I read that at 2012 and hoe EXO promote until now at that time I just believe half hearted but in that so called rumour said that they will promote along snsd and hve dating rumour with one member idk it's one or two member of exo. Many people speculate luhan and seohyun etc , but it come out baekhyun and taeyeon. Butmit become grey for me because i kno baek is taeng's fans since predebut or debut. And this kind of pattern always exist . Dating scandal after one member of group.
    I am not say they fake because taeng so pretty and talented and baek fan of her but the way media push them like I think this is win win solution for sm to push this relationship so both group will receive more more attention.

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  68. You know what it feels like? It feels like we spent all day outside fighting with people who talk down my unni/dongseng/family. We come home to be consoled by our family but our family is too busy doing other things to care. We spent our day outside fighting for you but you don't care. That's how it feels.





    ^^All my feels in one sentence really.

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  69. disqus_4c97x29vniJune 19, 2014 at 7:43 PM

    SONEs' long letter pains my heart so much ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ

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  70. That baekhyun instagram post with the fan project banner made me feel like being lied on though. The first concert was a memorable one and the fanproject was a success and exo fans are really happy about it.

    But it turns out it didn't mean anything to baekhyun huh. He just find it as a a platform to show his affection to his girlfriend.

    I wish they the best for the relationship, I hope they don't broke up soon because they risk a lot to be in relationship so make it worth it.

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  71. I thought that was really cute ^^

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  72. Fans can only be upset at themselves, to put so much into someone who can only reciprocate with music and fan meetings and to expect them to give their whole life to their fans is ridiculous. You shouldn't even feel the need to shield them all the time, who cares what antis say, they know nothing and only want a reaction. If anything I think all the secret codes are cute, like, when Taeyeon saw a light she thought of him, if a fake couple within a group had codes fans of that ship would love it.

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  73. My Opinion RocksJune 19, 2014 at 7:45 PM

    NB seems to be a huge fan of snsd always on time when posting about them..anyway fans probably realised that sones arent mad at them for dating but for using sns to comunicate w/ her bf.. Anyway doesn't the car scene look so fake to you? Why would they suddenly show it when they dated secretly all this time? Do you think dispatch got some worse picture of them lol even the condom company congratulated them looool

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  74. I thought KPOP fans would've been more accepting with the influx of their idols dating over the years being out in the open. Well, I guess they still aren't.

    This is why being an idol is scary as heck. According to them fans, you "belong" to the fan, at all rights.

    I'm still all for idols to date openly, and to heck with those restrict them. Idols are human too okay?

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  75. I really don't understand the "betrayal" and "being fooled as a fan" aspect of this. I believe something similar happened with myungsoo and people got pissed. Apparently them making secret messages to each other on SNS (and y'all are REALLY searching way too hard for these "proofs"...it's like those people that add up random numbers in member birthdays to figure out the next comeback date like..wtf) is totally wrong and horrible. Oh no! This pic of an oreo wasn't for ME? THE FAN? I'M SO HURT AND BETRAYED I CANNOT SIMPLY LIVE ON ANYMORE. And apparently all other the posts Taeyeon has ever written thanking the fans are not enough, but a few posts that are suspected to be directed at Baekhyun instead really hurts you that much. Does everything an idol does have to cater towards the fans? And this is Korea we are talking about....if Taeyeon and Baekhyun weren't idols they'd probably be sporting couple clothes and underwear in every public locations with a million selcas to go with it. If they wanna do cute secretive things about each other....why not...? As a huge fan, I really do not mind (and kind of find it a bit sweet hmmm), because i already know snsd love sones :( .......idk...this whole fiasco makes me sad

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  76. Korean fans are like this and everybody knows it.
    GUYS YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THEY ARE IDOLS, they know what it does this mean so they're obviously attached to rules.
    I totally agree with them, they must be really hurt since they're not saying dating is bad otherwise what they did was so wrong.. THEY SHOULD KNOW WHAT A PRIVATE LIFE IS.
    They don't really need to make it public, you have to know it's obviously painfull for their fans.
    Conclusion: I understand why they are hurt by them.

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  77. Yep. That's why ifans don't get why fans are so upset. They should get paid with all the work they do to protect their images, all while being called cockroaches and other names. But instead they get made a fool of. It's pretty sad. And Taeyeon and Baekhyun should absolutely feel sorry about it tbh.

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  78. Honestly, as a fan, I do find this slightly annoying.

    If they were to write cute coded messages AFTER revealing they were dating, it would be cute. But because they were being secretive, it is kinda hurtful. But in the end, it's the fans fault for BaekYeon for not going public. So ah....idk.

    For all you fans who are hurting, here's the healing unicorn. Do you feel better now? I know I do.

    http://31.media.tumblr.com/94b43c85f6e4dc88c129eba2dcf0349f/tumblr_mtzr5l3WkH1so79wuo2_r1_250.gif

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  79. i'm just upset that now he most likely wont post stuff on SNS...i don't give a shit if it's meant for someone specific...i get to see his stupid face that makes me smile and laugh. so all those butthurt teenagers can suck it.

    And seriously kids...death threats aren't nice...they aren't the smart thing to do EVER...idols dont get all up in your business so you have no right to theirs.

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  80. MTE. The car scene was rather odd too, cause it seemed staged? LOL.

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  81. It's her account.. It was up to her.. kkkkk dont be butthurt ppl Guys...

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  82. k-fans know much more than us, they know everything we're just people who see what Youtube, facebook or twitter show us. LOL

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  83. This honestly did make me tear up..
    I'm thinking of all the efforts of Ksones keeping quiet about what they may or may not know while also battling against the public hatred of their girls... I think it's a lot of hard work and I think it hurts and it sucks to know that they can't absolutely shield all the hate when it keeps on coming ...

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  84. If these comments and upvotes really represent what majority KSones think about this thing then as International Sone I am really really disappointment to them.
    I really hope these things are just from from vocal minority of Sones

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  85. My Opinion RocksJune 19, 2014 at 7:48 PM

    SM releasing dating news every month while YG stans are waiting patiently for one.. Wonder how dispatch never caught any YG artists dating properly

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  86. when scandals like this come out i really undesrtand why some k-fans dislike i-fans...you guys will never get to see the real face of some idols or how much they depend on those fans

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  87. They look like a couple of kids... Ew

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  88. I know what you mean but you know as a fan (i am not a sone or exotic but still) it would feel really weird for me to read messages that i think are directed to fans only to find out that they were for the partner. And you know as a fan i would be mad. it would feel like they are talking over your head or holding a candy in front of your face that you can´t reach. I am sure they didn´t mean it like that at all and only wanted one way to comunicate with each other openly but if i was in the postion of sones or exotics i would feel betrayed because it seems they don´t trust you enough to talk openly or maybe even thinking you are dumb for not getting the hints. Again, i don´t think that is what they wanted to happen and that wasn´t their intention but you know...as a fan i would be mad too and i can understand fans that are really mad right now...

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  89. it's just too obvious we don't fucking know anything about korean idols or Korea itself LOL

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  90. It's funny how few days ago I tweeted " SM I'm tired of whole Kris Issue that seems like no ending, I need your next scandal please" and bam! The news a bout dating SM idols broke up. Are they really read my tweet? (Delulu)

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  91. And why this korean fans become "overacting" because you can't compare your kind of "fan" to them. I mean look at international fans we do love certain group but many people barely one single album or only buy one album per year or rarely go to concert. But korean fans? Like fansite etc. They buy like 20, 40 albums someone 800 and go around the world to watch concert so many sacrifice. So it's like you give more of you demand more. I am not say the exxagarating I call it as human . Like if you give too much you expect more and more

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  92. I think both fandoms are being too damn DRAMATIC

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  93. Honestly, this would've been prevented if the two had private Instagram accounts. :/

    I feel bad for the two, really. They got together during a time where it was both rough for them (Taeyeon being depressed, Baekhyun having to deal with his feelings about Kris leaving) and became each other's support system. They must've been so happy...can't imagine how they feel now that their fans are giving them so much shit. u.u

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  94. I hope they don't breakup. ):

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  95. Can't be more agree, we can't even compare to them .. seriously.

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  96. I feel bad for the two, really. They got together during a time where it was both rough for them (Taeyeon being depressed, Baekhyun having to deal with his feelings about Kris leaving) and became each other's support system. They must've been so happy...can't imagine how they feel now that their fans are giving them so much shit. u.u

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  97. there are a lot of pann posts saying luhan and seohyun are dating too and exo saesang already know about it

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  98. They for sure will do it someday, sorry but couples don't last forever specially when she has been with Junsu and Leeteuk before. After that happen i think it will be so awkward LOL

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  99. People are too dramatic.

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  100. I{ll be waiting for dispatch or sports seoul to confirm it -grabs popcorn-

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  101. you are in no position to say that,how is she selfish ?she always allows all her members to shine on any events or shows,she never try to hog limelight for her own,dont blame her for exo,baekhyun has been after her for a long time and exo fans are blaming her like fuckin hypocrites

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  102. I wonder if it would have been different if they had used that couples app instead of leaving hints all over instagram

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  103. As a sone, that part made me tear up. Sigh.

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  104. nah knowing exo sasaengs, they would have found baek's priv instagram instantly

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  105. People being insensitive and not emphatic.

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  106. ......what past did they cover? what did he do?? Ö_____Ö

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  107. they make the worst house-maids, sweeping everything under the rug

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  108. oh good lord , these k-nets or fans or w/e need to take several seats.
    take a fucking chill pill , go outside , get a bf , get a friend , get mental help , get w/e the hell u need to deal wif the fact that these idols aren't your geezus

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  109. he said his members were "like autistic kids" after they lost a game or something

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  110. The concert was obviously a really memorable event but what's wrong with sharing your happiness and success with both your fans and your girlfriend? And the quote was the pokemon theme song and fit really well even though it had a double meaning. It doesn't mean he didn't care as it was a really special event for him regardless. It's been their dream to have their own concert after all.

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  111. Me too, I feel like I really want to cry y'know...EXO fans and sones go through so much shit to shield them, I can understand the fans tbh

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  112. Srly??? In return of their money, they got to see the concert and enjoy their music. SNSD owes them nadaaa

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  113. The First SensibilitJune 19, 2014 at 8:04 PM

    well im dating with myself hip hip hurrah :) ...................................................................
    5 seconds later T_T

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  114. at least you have a job /sigh

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  115. Jenizz | pinkcrownJune 19, 2014 at 8:16 PM

    I'm glad that they're happy. :3

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  116. Now he's barely making ends meet with supporting roles in weird movies. Find strength. 

    Bitch please. Are you his accountant?

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  117. Maybe because it was ten years ago

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  118. [+1,686, -86] Lost his career over drugs.
    Ugh. Let go of the drug issue will you?! Get over it! It's in the past~

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  119. No he did NOT DEAL! Small little lying liar. He used ex once...once...that was confirmed by friends and he took it when he was so drunk he couldn't stand up. Somebody gave it to him.

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  120. He didn't smoke weed or deal it...You're seriously bent. Do you think his fans are going to allow you to lie and not bring it to anyone's attention?

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  121. Then why beat a dead horse? It happened 10 years ago. ..the only people I see bringing it up are people like you.

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  122. If his career was ruined he wouldn't be out promoting the 3rd movie he's starred in this year.

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  123. I hope so too... Its sad that majority of korean top stars like song hye kyo, so ji sub, ha jiwon are single and would definitely create a huge buzz if revealed to be in relationship

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  124. I have a gut feeling jihoon will have zero or at best 10s interaction with jihyo. I've seen some pics they are not on the same team and if the rumors are true back then it would be awkward for them. So I am not hoping jihyo throwing herself to jihoon like when dongwook came. Or I could be wrong I think they were really close since jihoon went to sex is zero 2 premiere. well see when the episode airs

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