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Thursday, May 8, 2014

TV show 'Share House' forces designer Kim Jae Woong to confess he's gay


Article: Kim Jae Woong's coming out, the misdirection of the producers

Source:
TV Daily via Nate

Viewers are expressing discomfort over the way fashion designer Kim Jae Woong was 'forced' to come out on the TV show 'Share House'.

Fellow cast members suspected that he was gay over his feminine actions and Lee Sang Min cornered him after he came home from an outing with another female by asking questions like, "Be honest, do you like men? or women?" Ever since the pilot episode, Lee Sang Min and the cast members had told him, "You need to change your voice to be more masculine."

Kim Jae Woong answered back, "Whether I just met my girlfriend or a close nuna, what does it matter to you?"

The members then said, "We would be curious about this whether it was you or another member. You're just being overly sensitive."

Kim Jae Woong then left the house to have some time to himself. The members asked each other, "Were we too harsh?"

After coming back, Kim Jae Woong confessed, "I'm the same man as Sangmin hyung, Sung Joon hyung, and Ho Young hyung but there's one difference between me and them and it's that I like men. I've always been asked by others 'what am I' since I was little. I am not a monster."

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1. [+386, -6] That is in no way a voluntary coming out at all. He was forcefully outed on TV.

2. [+367, -9] I'm sure it was scripted but I am suspicious of the producer's intentions. This was not a voluntary coming out. This was forced.

3. [+341, -13] Even as a viewer, I could tell that he was gay (by his actions) so I'm sure that the cast members living with him had a clue. I can't believe that they acted clueless and cornered him with questions like that until he was forced to confess. Another article said that they all already knew he was gay, then what was the point of forcing him to say it publicly?

4. [+30, -0] He was forced to come out of the closet. This was not voluntary.

5. [+22, -2] Both the cast and the producers are in the wrong... They could've kept it to themselves and asked him off cameras. They knew cameras were rolling, why make someone feel so uncomfortable?

6. [+14, -0] He's not even a celebrity, why force him to come out like that on TV...........

7. [+11, -2] They're so rude... How can you ask questions like that so directly. How immature can they be?

8. [+6, -0] I hope he's not hurt through this ordeal. He said it bravely and I hope he doesn't regret it. Supporting Kim Jae Woong as a viewer of Fashion Runway Korea!

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Source: Naver

1. [+1,523, -90] Honestly, I barely even knew who he is and didn't care about whether he's gay or not but the other members crossed a line. I'm just an average male myself but I feel bad for Kim Jae Woong... they cornered him and demanded to know if he's gay. That's verbal abuse. I'm so disappointed in them.

2. [+1,361, -82] Lee Sang Min-ssi, this is verbal abuse.

3. [+993, -49] I bet there are a lot of gay celebrities who haven't come out yet

4. [+287, -5] They hide their dating relationships but they're so adamant about revealing someone to be gay? Then why don't they reveal their relationships too, how fun it would be considering there's an idol in the cast too.

5. [+287, -13] So he didn't even voluntarily reveal it but was forced to by the show? How horrifying.

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311 comments:

  1. Outing someone is fucked up.

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  2. Coming out is a personal experience, no one should be forced to do so.

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  3. Totally not cool.

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  4. Why did they even force it out? For ratings? It's pathetic.

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  5. "3. [+341, -13] Even as a viewer, I could tell that he was gay (by his actions)..."

    Okay number one, don't put people into boxes like that.
    And second, this is actually seriously fucked up, why does it matter to you if he's gay or not??? It doesn't affect your life but you outing him like that when he's clearly uncomfortable does????

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  6. fuck this show and these people for doing that to him.

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  7. Using a person's sexuality to advertise and promote your show is disgusting... the production is just thirsty for attention it's repulsive.

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  8. utter and complete disgust right now

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  9. The producers and cast members are so disgusting .Now Kim Jaen Woong would get hate from the public now

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  10. The members asked each other, "Were we too harsh?"



    Shit son. Ya think?

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  11. something like that is so personal. that's overstepping the boundaries. my gay/lesbian friends took a long period of time to out themselves and there is a process. you just cant go and say 'admit it' for the sake of broadcast

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  12. Aren't these shows scripted to an extent. I think he probably came to an understanding with the producers to come out on the show. He might have felt reluctant and scared but I'm sure a lot of these scenes are discussed and filmed.

    Regardless, I love it when people find the courage to come out. I'm still trying to find my courage to tell me parents I'm not religious at all, so stories like these are always inspirational.

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  13. 'Im not a monster' is that wrong to be a gay? Why forced him to confessed.. his face tells everything. He felt uncomfortable

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  14. these shows are usually scripted in where people go and what they do, you can usually tell when people are saying things that are off a script

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  15. The producers and Lee Sang Min are so fucked up...
    If they all sort of had a feeling that Kim Jae Woong was gay then they should've just kept their opinions to themselves.
    If they were going to out him then they should've received Kim Jae Woong's permission for that disgusting interrogation to even be aired.
    This is so fucking disgusting. It is never your business to out someone... Seriously fucked up.

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  16. My heart broke when he said "I'm not a monster"

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  17. It's not wrong to be gay but some cultures and religions consider it to be an abomination so that's why some people consider homosexuals as monsters or lower beings.

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  18. " Lee Sang Min and the cast members had told him, "You need to change your voice to be more masculine."


    Who the hell are you? You had no right to corner that man. It's his personal life. It's his business. How is him being gay going to affect you personally? Is it going to prevent you from sleeping well at night? Will it mess with your eating habits? Will it ruin your daily functioning? No! It's none of your damn business. Lee Sang Min and those other cast members are some assholes, but especially Lee Sang Min. What he did was uncalled for and he had no right doing that.

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  19. Wow, this is really shitty. Assuming somebody's sexual orientation is one thing, outing them on national TV is another.


    Though obviously, it's also very shitty that a lot of us have to prove to be otherwise when society assumes automatically that we're straight.

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  20. Many people need a long time to out themselves and have reasons why they wait long or dont at all and i am sure he had his reasons too. It is so rude, scary, i can´t even find the word for how scary it is to force someone to confess it. Even more in a country like south korea where being gay when you are in a position where many people know or watch you is highly unusual and alot of viewers usually seem to have a problem with it...

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  21. but isnt that comment defending him??? you just cut off part of the comment

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  22. what is this show about…?
    i feel so sad for Kim Jaewoong being forced to come out </3

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  23. "...I am not a monster."

    We know you're not... :')

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  24. Fuck everything about this.

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  25. who the hell do they think they are? the fuck. they have gone way too far with this show.

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  26. This is breaking my heart, to be outed on a TV show, to be told "You need to change your voice to be more masculine.". I myself have never watched the show so i dont fully understand the context but this is so messed up. My GOD, this is apart of his personal life and he should share his decisions with his loved ones not some co-workers. AH this just breaks my heart, he is no different than any of us and he was cornered and probably felt isolated T.T This is breaking my heart, to be outed on a TV show, to be told

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  27. WHAT THE FUCK. i hope the producers apologized after outing him like that

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  28. Lee Sangmin talks a lot, pretty sure we'll know the truth once the show is over. If they pushed the designer, then Sangmin will admit it, if it was planned, then he will reveal it. But I feel like this was planned already.

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  29. What SBS's Roommate was suppose to be about. Celebrities sharing a house together.

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  30. To corner someone like that in front of camera. That's pretty despicable. What's more, considering the culture of Korea and how they regard homosexuality, this is even more thoughtless. Hope he's alright. :/

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  31. Omg I don't know if I'm feeling to sensitive but I teared up reading this.


    I have friends that were forced to come out and it was hard for them.


    Imagine how it is for a non-celebrity in SOUTH KOREA to be outed in National TV.


    Oh my God, please I don't even now who he is but I wish him immense strength.

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  32. I feel like this was scripted to an extent and he knew about this ahead of time. I'm not excusing anyone's actions, but it doesn't feel like they just randomly cornered him. It was probably already in the scripts to have him come out. Although I will say the way they chose to do it was very insensitive & extremely rude.

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  33. because it's a stereotype to think a man who is feminine is gay. you're putting someone into a box. also, before someone says it, NO stereotypes don't "exist for a reason."

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  34. U can't just cornering someone like that. He didn't do any crime.

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  35. That's rude! it's his privacy. so what did you get after he confessed?

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  36. wow that's seriously effed up. why the fuck does a dude need to have a more 'masculine voice?' who the fuck cares if he's gay? he shouldn't have to come out cause it shouldn't be an issue in the first place. ugh. and if you really wanted to know, you coulda asked off screen. geez people have no concern whatsoever for how their words can affect other people.

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  37. Ok, if you think someone's gay, keep it to yourselves. It's wonderful for someone to accept that they're gay and to come out but ITS THEIR DECISION. You have no idea how hard it must be for someone to come out on their own to confirm that they're gay in public. WTF, poor guy.

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  38. i dont think he was forced by the PDs on this show. more like, he was pressured with the situation caused by his fellow casts. this might be a blessing in disguise in the end. i hope other closet gays in korean showbusiness will also find the strength and courage to come out one day. no one should take that freedom away from them.


    istg i can sense a lot of closet gays not just in kpop but the whole industry of korean showbiz. i cant imagine how sad they feel living in a society where being gay is perceived as a disease. LGBT people have feeling too you know.

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  39. That is so messed up omg

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  40. you're disgusting annoying

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  41. wow what the fuck why would you even do that to him

    especially knowing that gay people are treated very harshly in Korea

    fucked up...

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  42. Hopefully some good can come out of this situation. However, coming out to people is a very personal thing. So the fact that he was placed in that situation and the lack of regard should be discussed. I'm glad a number of the comments are focusing on the people's actions rather then on his sexuality.

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  43. I've always been asked by others 'what am I' since I was little. I am not a monster."

    Shit nobody should make someone feel about themselves like that. Seriously the cast and the producers are cold hearted people to corner someone like this and outing him. This is truly disgusting move from their side. They better apologize to him. It seems like he is getting more support rather than getting insults but i am sure this will affect him since he is being outed.

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  44. You just made me realize that my bias is friends with people who talk a lot (even in circumstances where they maybe shouldn't). Lee Sangmin, Heechul...


    Oh, Sunggyu...please watch yourself. Don't want a repeat of the last time.

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  45. I still can't believe some people said stereotypes exist for a reason... and a lot others upvoting and agreeing with that *sigh*

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  46. /sigh
    why would they do that...
    (-_______-)

    well, I just hope its not scripted..

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  47. Who the fuck do they think they are? It's not like his sexuality is going to affect there lives so why do you care so damn much? Shit like this really pisses me off and I'm not even gay!

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  48. greedy producers -_-

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  49. Jenizz | pinkcrownMay 8, 2014 at 1:34 AM

    wtf?! this is.. I.. don't have words for it.

    I hope he doesn't face hate. But these comments give me hope.

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  50. This breaks my heart too, because it's something close to me. My friend has been made to feel so ashamed all his life by people telling him things like that, that he should be more masculine, but specifically about his voice. I always remember how he told me one day that he wished he actually could, and that he had tried. He asked me, "Do you think knowing that everywhere I go, people talk about me, that I would do it willingly? to go through that on purpose, for what reason? Who thinks others enjoy ridicule?" and it really stuck with me.

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  51. I think she means that if he didn't want to come out, he could have lied. How could they force him? Physically? To kick him out of the show? What does "forcing" consist of?


    We all know those are not comparable to what he is going to go through after he comes out.


    I think that maybe that was his breaking point. There is a moment where one had held a lie so close there is a moment where it's so pressing one just... lets it go, even if it's not really an ideal situation.


    I mean maybe the whole thing was scripted to that he felt pressured by the accusations. It was obvious that if it was scripted, it was exactly because they wanted to push him.


    He still could have said "Yeah you are just bullshitting and go on like normal".


    But I don't know how the show went like. Maybe the forcing was done by peer pressure: they were too harsh, and personal stuff like that is a very weak point in a person's life. There must have been something they said that hit right where it hurts the most, so while trying to compose himself, and in a moment of vulnerability, he just acted impulsively.

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  52. What a fucking low blow for rating and articles. Low as fk. At least people (well at least the ones commenting) seem to acknowledge the fact he didn't came out voluntarily and the the stupid cast forced him to. But seriously, hope this never happens again and this doesnt damage his career too much :(

    People doing bullying even ON screen and isnt this NOT live ? no wonder the suicide rate is so high.

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  53. wow that was really mean
    they forced him and now he has to live with them ?? poor guy

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  54. I haven't seen any of the episodes but I think I'll view this one in order to get a better idea for myself. It is sad that he was forced to come out that way since it is a very personal and important decision. The show and the cast owe him an apology. This is quite disappointing.

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  55. Joining a variety program on a not-so-famous cable TV, and then forced to come out...
    Kim Designer, I don't think this is worth it.

    http://0.viki.io/37524faee3f5931f9af9f14e16ed7b7b8fb4c69073c7.gif?o=c

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  56. First of They don't have to tell him how to be manly, there are sensitive guys who
    are more manly than those who always act tough.
    Also There is no reason why he had to come out unless he wanted to, which was obvious he didn't. The fact that producers, writers, and SangMin cornered him to confess makes me scared how they are going to continue the show with this revealed :/

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  57. This is so fucked up! How the hell can they force him to say if he likes men or not? So rude and immature. My heart broke when he said he wasn't a moster :(

    http://data.whicdn.com/images/61157689/original.gif

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  58. Coming out is hard, especially when you are unsure of how supporting your family and friends are going to back you up and not abandon you. And to be forced to come out in public on national television, it must be so terrifying.
    And the fact that he said "i'm not a monster" it's make me so sad that people are called monsters for loving the same gender. It's still love, is it not?

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  59. I know right. It's like kicking someone to the ground and saying was Were we too harsh? Really they are bunch of cruel people.

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  60. Absolutely ridiculous..... You can't force someone out of the closest. As a gay person myself, I can't even imagine the trauma.... poor guy....

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  61. That really broke my heart too. Some people are just too cruel to the people that are different that them.

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  62. They have no thought about the persons reputation and mental wellbieng at all. what the fuck.

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  63. This is the kind of thing that should be causing netizen outrage, not stupid attitude controversies or misunderstood tweets or people innocently misusing a word. Sadly, this will probably blow over in a few days, while netizens will continue to rehash overblown scandals from KARA, Hyosung, T-ara etc for years to come.

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  64. Unless youre gay I dont think you should assume its "putting people in boxes". Mannerisms is literally the way gay men sense each other(aka gaydar).

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  65. Nobody should care about others being gay, vegan, satanist and whatever shits. And hell, stop go public about it: You aint that special. [Not talking about him here, as he being tricked.] Jeez, why still making this a big deal? People should take care of their own craps.

    http://31.media.tumblr.com/91d485f9910f4f9abe15bf2d30e2b9a5/tumblr_mk71riSpMl1rt5epao1_500.gif

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  66. madelinemaureenMay 8, 2014 at 1:47 AM

    I feel a little sick. That was so not okay producers...so not okay...

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  67. Rondai WilliamsMay 8, 2014 at 1:51 AM

    I am livid.
    fucking assholes.

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  68. madelinemaureenMay 8, 2014 at 1:51 AM

    I remember Neil Patrick Harris talking about being "forced" out of the closet by Perez Hilton who was pretty much threatening to out Neil. Perez was holding it over Neil and Neil had had enough and "came out". He was open in his personal life but not publicly.

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  69. What's also irritating is that people kept pegging him as "gay" because he acts "feminine". The only thing that makes you gay is if you like to fuck dicks (as a guy) or vaginas (as a girl). Both men and women can be masculine, feminine, whatever on the outside and be gay or straight, they aren't related.

    People should be free to express themselves however they want without having sexuality rumors and harassment following them, both from their coworkers and their fans. Being gay is not bad obviously but speculating about someone's sex life is just freaking rude, and too many people have been conditioned by the media to think it's normal to use someone else's sexuality as a source of entertainment, gossip and an excuse to dig deeper with "evidence" posts to out somebody. I've seen it happen plenty among kpop fans and I tolerate things a lot in fandoms but this is something I will never EVER condone. It's right up there with stalking idols at airports and shoving cameras 5 inches from their faces.

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  70. Perez has always been kinda an ass, no? I heard so many stories of his..."celebrity outings."


    Honestly, coming out of the closet is a hard thing, no one should be FORCED or pressured to tell others their sexual orientation.

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  71. wow that was really mean
    they forced him and now he has to live with them ?? poor guy

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  72. Argh... I feel disgusted...

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  73. DON'T YOU DARE TRY TO DRAG SOMEBODY OUT OF THE CLOSET YOU PIECE OF SHITS

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  74. Well perez is the worlds biggest jerk god only knows how he is able to even raise a child

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  75. this is fucked up. forcing someone to come out of the closet is always wrong unless the person does it voluntarily. if they're doing this so the viewer ratings would go up, then that is fucking sick and disgusting.

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  76. forced? It's none of their business. Why do they even care if he's gay or not. His sexual orientation doesn't make him less human

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  77. subduedobsessionMay 8, 2014 at 2:09 AM

    If people are willing to put themselves out there (of their own volition obviously, outing someone is reprehensible) and come out it should be encouraged. It's fine to want to keep our private life to yourself and I respect people's decision to do so, but representation is still important. It's a good thing that someone is struggling with their identity can see someone who is comfortable and secure in who they are and that they're doing okay.

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  78. that lee sang min guy is a jerk. read this: http://www.soompi.com/2013/05/21/lee-sang-min-apologizes-to-baek-ji-young-for-causing-financial-trouble/#.U2sgM6JjEfw

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  79. They must be an idiot or just pretending to sound sympathetic. Let me slap them and ask "Sorry, does it hurt? I wanted to take off the dust in your cheek."

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  80. ah, one part that kind of irks me about this is just the "The only thing that makes you gay is if you like to fuck dicks (as a guy) or vaginas (as a girl)." when it's more of what makes you gay is being attracted to people who identify as male. (or in a girl's case - people who identify as female)

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  81. If I see or hear about any more homophobia from cast-mates towards him after they literally forced him out of the closet, I will literally rage. It would be as if they bullied him out of closet just to bully him even more.

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  82. What a pessimistic view you have the world it's sad.

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  83. Yeah my friend is roommates with a lesbian couple and she told me (word-of-mouth, they told her) that most lesbian actually like having sex the way a straight girl would with a male, but just prefer doing it with a female companion instead.

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  84. Wow, that's disgusting.

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  85. Are you talking about including trans people? Sorry for that oversight, it wasn't intentional. I tend to include them when I talk about "men" and "women" as to me I recognize them as whatever gender they identify with. So for the sake of simplicity I didn't elaborate.

    Or if you're talking about being attracted to the same sex, I see it in the same vein so I don't split hairs over words too much. YES I know there's a difference between having sex with dicks/vaginas vs attraction but honestly unless you're calling for being PC in everything I don't find it necessary and this is coming from someone who identifies as LGBT. I think other people are more concerned and upset about being "correct" than some of us are. Lol

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  86. mmmmmm no, hmosexuality it's when you like people of your same sex, another thing is the people who dress and identify themselves as the opposite sex. But it's not that an homosexual man would be with a girl that identify herself as guy, or viceversa. It just about to feel sexual attraction to somebody of the same sex.

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  87. i was talking about trans exclusion because the genitalia talk was leavin them out ;; and it's okay! it made me feel weird so i just had to call it out.
    & i totally got lost in your second paragraph there. like completely. i'm not even going to lie- i just read it like 8 times.

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  88. 'Behind every cynical person is a crushed idealistic.' I used to think a lot like you but then I realised no matter how nice a person is to you on the outside their inside is still judging you. But as I said if you wish to think there are special snowflakes who aren't even the slightest judgmental then I'll let you be.

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  89. what some cultures and religions think does not excuse anything. gay people harm NOBODY by deciding to love people of the same gender or multiple genders. they deserve human rights and dignity like everybody else. fuck traditions and old ideas if they stand in the way of humans receiving their basic human rights.

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  90. At times like this I'm glad those news sites in korea have never been as sneaky as from the other countries. It's really hard to be forced out of the closet

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  91. This whole scenario is pretty disturbing. The producers of the show nor anyone else has any right to make him feel uncomfortable or come out about something he doesn't feel ready to do. I hope he's alright and that this terrible experience makes him stronger.

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  92. wow what a shithead

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  93. Wtf is wrong with the producers? Did they leave that out of the script or what?

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  94. wow what kind of show is this? a new reality show to force people to confess? O_O

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  95. Kevin Horvejkul KwokMay 8, 2014 at 3:00 AM

    Ah,, Reminds me of Sungjong in one episode of This is infinite. He was required to show his masculinity by his CEO(?). :|

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  96. Are you a gay man or?

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  97. I saw the video and i can't believe how rude the oldest guy was...it's so disappointing. I hate the fact that they did this to him but proud that he defended himself and made them realize what they did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4wwuYw69nM#t=202

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  98. what no, a person /is/ what they identify as - you saying a gay man wouldn't be with a "girl" that identifies as male is wrong. he is a man - he identifies as male. there are gay/lesbian relationships which include a cis-male/female and a trans-male/female. to not be attracted to someone with more effeminate features or more masculine features however, is different.
    and not everything is about sexual attraction/sex. there's emotional and romantic attraction as well.

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  99. I am pretty certain those cast member will be back-peddling on their comments. When they realise how they are being viewed.

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  100. WHAT A FAGGeeet!

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  101. we can't force people to be in our way . but you called it love? sincerely sorry for saying this but loving the same gender is not right ,isn't it? do not ever justify something that is not right .if it's wrong then it's wrong and otherwise . but still you cannot force them to be normal or something like the cast do to that designer man ,force him to confess on tv .

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  102. Ah sorry I see it's confusing, I just read it over again.

    Some people have gotten mad at me for not being totally politically correct when talking about LGBT stuff. Like it's technically possible for people who are not gay to have sex with someone of the same sex, so some people think the PC way to describe gay sexuality is "being attracted" to the same gender vs having sex with the same gender.

    I personally think all that political correctness and "splitting hairs over minor words" is unnecessary, and that some gay people themselves don't care about it but other people who are not gay ironically get offended over it if you're not "correct".

    I guess, with that line of thinking, my dicks and vagina phrase might piss off people who want to be extremely PC. But frankly I don't agree with them.

    That was probably a little unrelated to your comment so sorry for the confusion. I hope this makes more sense haha

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  103. Hold up. Loving the same gender isn't wrong. You love your own gender platonically at least. But there is no reason aside from what the media forces you to believe that homosexuality is wrong. It goes eay back into your history. People were homosexual in the ancient Egyptian times. What reason do you have for believing it's wrong? Because as far as I see it, it is love. Love between two people isn't wrong.

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  104. http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mebol3VypA1r317bvo1_400.gif

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  105. ... How is it not right...?? Explain please? "It's just not right" is not a valid argument.

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  106. I'm speechless at your comment. Love is love. Who are YOU to say it's not, just because they're the same gender. Your "wrong" may be someone else's "right". It's your OPINION, that you think it's wrong. Not everyone think or feel the same way as you.

    You're right that no one should be bully, but by saying love between same sex "should not be justify because its wrong" is the same thing is being a bully.

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  107. it's ok! i'm happy for the clarification i would have been confused the whole night lol.

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  108. Who are you to say that loving someone of the same gender is not right? And again, who are you to say that people who love others of the same gender are not "normal"?

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  109. so do you think it's right ? then okay . it's a bit rude for me to force my argument too .

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  110. I think everybody has the right to love whoever they want to love. Nobody should be able to tell them whether it is love or not, or whether it's right for them to love people of the same gender. Not you, not me, and definitely not anyone else.

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  111. gang up bullying him in TV show because he's gay? that's not cool.. Btw i really didn't like that Lee sang min guy since i watch The genius show. He's a jerk who always think he's great.

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  112. I think thats a bit too much, we all know that almost all designers are gay, why force them to admit it? We have this thing called a "Gaydar" and we will know whether a person is gay or not just by one look

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  113. 4. [+287, -5] They hide their dating relationships but they're so
    adamant about revealing someone to be gay? Then why don't they reveal
    their relationships too, how fun it would be considering there's an idol
    in the cast too.



    The double standard. This is really wrong.

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  114. so do you think it's right ? then okay . it's a bit rude for me to force my argument too .

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  115. BUT I'M NOT A FAGGUSHIT

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  116. anyone know if he has a twitter or something so I can send him a 'fighting' because fuck imagine how he feels. fuck this makes me really angry. how insensitive and rude are they for not realizing that it's 'too harsh'. this is messed up big time

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  117. if you keep lying your nose gon keep growing as big as your dick

    or in your case, get smaller

    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-m0T1eMKge04/UXAuGUK8H6I/AAAAAAAABxs/Su9YrhQULAg/w255-h200-no/2mw7a68.gif

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  118. Consent love between to people who care for each other isn't right? If they want to be with each others and care for each others the same way straight people do then why is it wrong for them to be together? Some people can't help who they fall in love with and society have no right breaking them apart or deny their love. Even if you disagree with homosexuality, you have no right to look down on them and say what they're doing is wrong.

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  119. From the link:

    On the most recent episode of tvN “Star Special Lecture Show,” music producer and entertainer Lee Sang Min talked about the time Baek Ji Young guaranteed his debt. He explained, “When my restaurant business failed, I went from a cash holder of 4.8 billion Korean won (about 4.8 million USD) to having 5.7 billion Korean won (about 5.7 million USD) in debt. Baek Ji Young volunteered to guarantee my debt because I produced ‘I Won’t Love.’”



    He continued, “Baek Ji Young didn’t give herself enough time as a guarantor and the debtors started to pressure her to pay back. In the end, Baek Ji Young asked me to nullify her contract with me as a singer and producer, because the pressure got worse and she couldn’t handle it anymore. And yet, I sent her a certification of content proving that she has to release one more album with me before she can nullify her contract.”



    "She didn't give herself enough time to pay back his debt?" Wth? Why is he blaming her? She was doing him a favor, and it should have been his problem, not her problem.

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  120. Just from reading this it's like he's obligated to tell them his sexuality. What changes if he's gay anyway? He's still human. Anyway, not gonna hate until I see the actual scene. It might have been told differently than what I had imagined

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  121. The thing is Perez is gay himself so he should know how hard it is to be judge but he have to be a douche about it to people who's in the same situation. What an unsympathetic *sshole...Also for being a douche in general

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  122. IntenseFeelings_UglySobbingMay 8, 2014 at 4:23 AM

    I can hardly come out to most of my family. Probably never will. To out someone on TV for the world to judge seems terrifying. My heart races at the thought. I can barely imagine his emotions during that.

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  123. so do you think it's right ? then okay . it's a bit rude for me to force my argument too .

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  124. IntenseFeelings_UglySobbingMay 8, 2014 at 4:29 AM

    Many cultures and religions make some people believe that being homosexual is unnatural, and it's like being a monster. My family is very religious, so being anything other than straight is not only wrong but a choice. Only my older and cousin are supportive of me. But sometimes I doubt my cousin's comfort towards my sexual orientation. I couldn't imagine being forced to come out, especially when everyone around you thinks it's wrong. Which is sadly a popular opinion.

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  125. 3. [+993, -49] I bet there are a lot of gay celebrities who haven't come out yet

    I honestly think there are.

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  126. I felt the show was so obviously scripted! so I don't feel he was forced to come out because he must read the script and he chose to go with it!! they seem so desperate for rating because anyone will know right away he is not straight!

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  127. lmao how is that not right? is this a religion thing again? because religion and the Bible itself says that loving someone of the same gender isn't wrong. lol glad my church isn't some homophobic cult and pretends that life is rainbows and unicorns while being assholes.

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  128. Yeah gays and lesbians are in abundance in the Kpop scene

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  129. Chris Colfer from Glee was forced to come out too by some stupid interviewer on tv. It was so uncomfortable and very disgusting.

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  130. Lee Sang Min is a fucking troll. Seriously, filth. I don't know this show, but from what I know about this dude, in addition to this, makes me so angry.

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  131. This is so disgusting. Coming out should be a choice. It should never be done for you and never forced out of you.

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  132. It's expected of ugly people

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  133. this is so wrong, it' an abuse, a real violence!

    i hope he is ok and his family and beloved ones will stay by his side and support him, knowing how korean society is generally not ready to face and accept homosexuality yet.
    i'm glad most of the comments are outraged and supportive.

    it's all in the hands of the younger generations to change a society and its history, fighting!

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  134. I don't know what to say to you but I believe that you must do what makes you happy and don't care about anyone else's thought of you..at the end who loves you will still love you for who you are..fighting

    http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121019201433/glee/images/d/db/Let_Me_Hug_You.gif

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  135. Last picture. My heart is breaking.

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  136. Disclaimer: I'm a Christian. Fully supportive of gay rights. Just wanted to correct you.


    "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination." Leviticus.

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  137. what the fuck is wrong with them forcing him to confess?? let the guy be don't make him publicize something he wasn't ready to confess gawd im ashamed to be half Korean sometimes kudos to the people actually being supportive of him

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  138. there really are. if you know ppl you work as stylists or like production staff in seoul, you'd be surprised at how prevalent it is.

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  139. LMAO omg Schatar

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  140. I feel offended, really. I had troubles coming out myself and this is really saddening.

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  141. I think it sucks that religion should be about believing in God and God is all about loving everyone of his creations and accepting them as they are and yet, the most homophobic assholes are the religious ones. I'm glad that the church my very religious family belongs to fully supports gay rights and I can't help but feel like I am one of the luckier people out there. Stay strong, love yourself and you'll find people who will love you for yourself :)

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  142. You never out or force someone to come out. People who are struggling to come to terms with their sexuality need their space and time, especially when they live in a place as strict as Korea

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  143. No, I doubt they have even met. Yoochun said not too long ago that he would like to reach the point where JYJ can meet Homin for a drink. This indicates to me that they haven't even done that. So if they don't even keep in touch with each other to the point where they don't even go out for a drink, how chummy can they be?

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  144. this is so messed up- what kind of show is this. I know some koreans are straightforward and may sound harsh but they crossed the line - forcing someone to come out on tv. I hope the man leaves that show he deserves to be treated better.
    A/N whatever this show is thank god i dont watch it - sounds horrible.

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  145. you're welcome !

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  146. did you just quote the old testament? because according to the old testament, people should be stoned for wearing cotton. do we do that now?

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  147. it's so sad, while a lot of ppl like him are trying to hide something beautiful as love doesn't matter with who
    in hollywood a lot of ppl are faking to be bisexual just to call attention OMG

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  148. even though it's their beliefs- its still wrong to be treated like a monster.I dont want to bring religion into this but it clearly says on the bible and pointed out in any church "DO NOT JUDGE" and what do they do- they judge and treat gays like shit. I am christian but I would never judge someone gay or anybodys lifestyle and what these people did was wrong in every way and I hope they pay for it.

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  149. don't you know? worst thing happens to them till this day. they got kicked out of dramas, cfs, sponsorships, they were being making fun of netizens continuously for 2 years, they are hated, they were told to just go die, being outcasted from not only the industry but the whole country. now you want them to even more suffered? if you ever felt how hurt it was to be bullied more than me, then you must know better how t-ara feels at this time. yet, you wish for the worst for them? wow... just wow.

    sometimes when we're being an outcast, we can't blame 100% faults at other people.. how people react to us must also stimulated by how we act. people with low social skills sometimes make other people misunderstood without any intention, or making people uncomfortable unconsciously, sometime people with being raised in a well-family that doesn't need to learn any soft skill to survive in the community. so if hwayoung was an outcast, you can't just simply say t-ara left them. there are evidences in their variety shows where hwayoung choose to be herself even after t-ara asked her to join. being not open up, it's hard to force someone to not be like that. social life isn't mathematic where 1 + 1 = 2. there are more factors involved, sometimes one choose not to admit that one factor, and sometimes we choose not to see that one factor.

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  150. Humiliate someone sexuality is so disgusting.

    They like men, or women is not your business.

    When you see people insult people race you say it's disgusting,

    but you feel okay to be rude and make fun if someone love another one in the same sex?

    Kim Jae Woong-shi, You are not monster. You aren't.

    The real 'disgusting monster' is That fucking TV Show crew. And Another cast members. All of them.

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  151. how about respond to my post properly other than jumping into "injury case" where i didn't even mention any of them in my post. i merely trying to explain how it all started and how all this environment, personal experience, personal distress, difference hopes in each person, can lead this to the tweet incident. "but they were still immature" indeed they were, but without understanding the whole situation, people just jump to a conclusion where "t-ara is all bitches and unforgivable for the rest of their lives" that's where it went wrong. 2 years already, and people still hate them in a 10000 negativity where in fact they only deserved 10 negativity. which should be got lesser and lesser since they had already apologized and learned their mistakes. it's better to learn from mistakes then keep pointing other people mistakes that we don't have enough time to correct our own mistake.

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  152. that's a gross over generalization. not everything is always as it seems.

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  153. in case you didn't know, that day... it was a day where they finally reached their dream. you SHOULD watch their encore performance in their japan concert 2012. they all CRIED and it was heartbreaking. you have to watch it so you can feel what it's like. you can feel all their hardwork in their tears.



    their too emotional state lead them into "immature" tweets. isn't that also what happened to most of us? we can't think straight when we're being too emotional



    and in fact, it could just be a simple motivational tweet if hwayoung didn't reply to it in a "victim" way. t-ara didn't even mention who, qri also didn't tweet so if hwayoung also didn't tweet it won't be as bad as it was.


    i don't get how you always talk shit about t-ara, just answer me this. have you ever watched their show? do you know all their names without googling? do you know what their habit? because i admit, they are not angles, how they treat each other is also not what perfect human would do. they prank each other, sometimes overboard, hurt each other with words. but how they reacted to it is different than how hwayoung react to it. when there's a member who hurt other member else than hwayoung, they would frontally attack her back. but hwayoung? her expression made it like she was bullied and outcast. same treatment different reaction, is it because the treatment? no it's because a difference in personality. so you can't say t-ara is 100% at fault. and i won't say t-ara is 100% innocent either

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  154. don't forget, there's also company that don't even give any chance for them to stay even if they want to despite all the hardness the company has given them into. and the company just simply kick them out

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  155. what???? it is none of our job to label any kind of relationship as love or not love. let them decide whatever kind of love they have. n have u ever heard about mental bullying? because for me right now, u just unintentionally ( i hope) did it.

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  156. to all t-ara haters, please before you put any of your thoughts. do this homework:
    -read their biographies
    -their background
    -their family
    -their personal dreams
    -their likes and dislikes
    -their habits
    -the way of their speaking
    -the way of their behaving
    -all of their variety-reality shows
    -their MVs and their live performances

    if you can't do that much, then at least learn their full name right and leave the forum

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  157. U are here to reply to a comment and not deleting them? Thats rare

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  158. And who is in the position to say something si right and something is wrong?

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  159. You left out a part...

    'Lee Sang Min explained, “At the time, things were difficult. I think I thought of everyone as my enemy unless they were visibly friendly with me. I feel very sorry for Baek Ji Young and would like to apologize.”

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  160. Honey, I'll tell you how gay men "sense" each other. It's called checking if he checks out other men.

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  161. This was definitely wrong. It doesn't really matter if you think homosexuality is right or wrong to know that the way they handled this was messed up. One poster had a point when they asked why is it ok to make him confess publicly when most of them don't even want to confess they are in a relationship.

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  162. Get used to this, they are probably hypocrital christians(not saying all of you are hypocrits)

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  163. It's already established that many of the T-ara fans are not really their fans. They can't be. Not when they approve Jiyeon and others of dancing through their injuries and even praising them for it, holding it like some sort of standard that all idols should live up to.


    These fans are selfish beyond belief thinking that idols should suffer pain and risk chronic debilitating injury for their entertainment.


    They even approve of these idols bullying other members for not doing the same.


    Crazy as it is, these fans are so inconsiderate of the health and well-being of the members. Instead of demanding that these idols be stopped from performing so that their injuries can heal properly, they are just as bad as KKS in expecting these idols to perform when they are injured. These fans should go work for KKS. They fit his style and don't give a damn about the idols unless they make money for him.


    So what if these idols are dumb enough to cave into pressure or think they are doing something so noble and great by dancing when they injured? No one can force them not to.


    No one cares in a few years when they've retired from the game and they're virtual cripples, with arthritis, with prematurely aged and damaged joints like elderly people, complaining of pain when the weather turns cold.


    These fans would have moved onto other groups or lost interest in kpop altogether. These fans aren't the ones who have to treat these idols, give them physio, and have to put up with the complaints of these foolish idols who insisted on performing against doctors' advice, to prove "something" and show up other people for not doing the same.


    I don't think I can call these people "fans". I think these people are GHOULS, expecting all the idols to perform when injured and attacking the ones who don't. They are ignorant and self-centered and they actually don't seem to care AT ALL about the rights and welfare of the members. Who needs fans when people who purport to support you behave like this?


    These fans should get a grip that sacrificing one's health and risking a lifetime of discomfort and pain is not worth it, especially for these heartless and demanding fans who will probably forget all about these idols in a short time after they get over the kpop phase or the group loses its popularity and fades from the scene.

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  164. Yeah if only the world was that nice LOL.
    The moment you're gay you get outcasted and hated on for no reason. Even if you try to hide it, some people will call you out (call you faggot what not). Have you seen what some Russians(just an example) have done to gay people just for 'dressing gay'? Threw glass bottles at their faces and beat the shit out of them and then proudly uploaded the videos on the internet.
    Why do you think people have such a hard time telling others about it...? If people were able to just ignore each others preferences the world would be a great place, but it's not.

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  165. Find strength sweetie, keep being true to yourself, idk if you are a good or a bad person, but I do know you are a human and as a human you have all the right to love whoever you want, dont let people or religion tell you otherwise.

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  166. How can you call yourselves fans when you don't even care about the health and wellbeing of the members? You should be ashamed of yourselves when you praise them for dancing when they are injured. You should all work for KKS because you're the SAME. Heartless, foolish, greedy, and selfish.


    Gee, I hope the next time you get an injury in your leg, you jump up and down with the injured limb. You would be getting a taste of your own medicine. Don't complain if the injury gets worse or never heals properly. That's what you expected Hwayoung to suffer.

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  167. Well that was rude...I remember when Siwan recently was a guest on Happy Together he was asked "Are you [gay]?" by one of the guests. So ruuuude...

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  168. Tzitzi De la ColinaMay 8, 2014 at 7:35 AM

    "Force them to be normal"?!?! Being homosexual is not abnormal!! The f*ck is wrong with you?

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  169. Disgusting that they made him do it... Sometimes you can clearly tell if someone is gay, even if you can it's their own business what they do at home in their bedroom.

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  170. most gay men would never be with a FTM.

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  171. The whole women can multitask is also a stereotype brought up by society since it fit the mindset that women are good homemakers, it not something that will be applied to them at work, only in the house. Stereotypes were made to put each gender in boxes to make it
    "easier" to understand genders. A stereotype is a stereotype, it being positive or negative is a detail.
    If you don't think society "brainwash" us with those stereotypes, take a look at gender marketing, it exists for a reason.


    As you said it's partially, it doesn't mean it the sole factor or it's gender specific nor your personality is fixed since it change depending on your environment.

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  172. Hum not really it is like they said. If the person is transexual and has had the surgeries then he/she are the sex they identify with so it is same sex love.
    I am all for trans-inclusion but it didn't apply here. If anything the ones who were forgotten here are bisexuals.

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  173. I think that's what men are like. They don't dance around the issue. They would behave the same in private. It's just that they were filmed this time. But they are supposed to be "natural" on this show as if they weren't being filmed. And this is the result. I think this is better confronting someone over this than dancing around the issue feeling uncomfortable and whispering about someone behind their back. Men are like this amongst themselves. They want to know the facts about someone straightaway. They are not coy like women are. If they have suspicions, they will speak up. I guess the guy knew what show he was going on and might have had some idea that this subject would come up. I think that this revelation will help the men bond rather than their continuing to suspect but avoiding the issue altogether. The matter gets to rest this way instead of people keeping on wondering. I think resolving this issue is better for them this way. Kim Jae Woong obviously thought about it before coming out. He must have thought that the guys already thought he was gay and there was no point hiding it or dancing around the issue. He could have maintained the "It's none of your business" stance and it would have been perfectly fine for him to have done so. However, I believe he is comfortable with being gay and isn't ashamed of it, and ultimately decided that he trusted the roommates to come out and to some degree the public. It doesn't really affect him that much as he's not a well-known person.

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  174. idkwhattoputhereokMay 8, 2014 at 7:57 AM

    This is terrible!!!!! Do they even have hearts? Bullying someone on tv like that.. If he kills himself, these people should live in guilt with blood on their hands for the rest of their lives.

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  175. idkwhattoputhereokMay 8, 2014 at 7:58 AM

    WHY ARE THERE 25 UPVOTES YA HOMOPHOBIC LOONS

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  176. And what info are all your rambling based on? A few heat of the moment tweets, some "evidences" cobbled together by some jealous fangirls and words of a recently outed conwoman.


    Try harder.

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  177. Why the fuck did they force him to come out in a country who looks down on gay people or even deny they're a thing?.

    "3. [+341, -13] Even as a viewer, I could tell that he was gay (by his actions) so I'm sure that the cast members living with him had a clue."



    Didn't saw the program but even as a straight guy i could tell that not all gays are recognizable by their actions and that some amanerate people aren't gay, so stop the gaydar.

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  178. whether is this script a not but forcing someone to be out is totally unacceptable

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  179. The 3rd &amp; 4th MenMay 8, 2014 at 8:21 AM

    Right! I can't believe that this was a room with ADULTS and not one put a stop to this. Hive mentality is disgusting.

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  180. hopinmydreamcarMay 8, 2014 at 8:29 AM

    Uh, what?? Not true at all.

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  181. Yeah, please believe that they are only doing this because they want to be clear about his's true sexual orientation because you know, it's important and make him declare his sexual orientation in front of camera with us is a bonding exercise.


    We like to be straightforward and even though we confront him about it, it's ok because we gave him time to think about his response. He also has a choice whether or not to come out after all, even after we corner him and keep asking him about it and telling him to be more masculine.


    It will not affect him even after the whole affair is on camera and screened to the nation because he's afterall, a not well known person.
    Please believe us.



    PS: We are not doing it for ratings.

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  182. Why should he be ashamed of it? People were curious because gays are in the minority and they asked him about it. He decided to respond with a definite answer instead of dancing around it or saying it's none of their business. He made that choice. Everything is done for ratings. Otherwise, they wouldn't be filming the people.

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  183. The 3rd &amp; 4th MenMay 8, 2014 at 8:39 AM

    "you just cut off part of the comment"

    He did it because that part of the comment is very problematic. What are gay/homosexual actions?

    Besides, I watched a few clips of this show on Youtube and his mannerisms are no different than some male idols. Idols who, by the way, discuss their ideal (female) type.

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  184. did they think it was funny ?
    forcing someone to come out in front of millions of people in a country known for harassing and putting down gays ?
    as a non-celebrity people will maybe forget over time but what about his parents and family ?
    the last time a man confessed he was gay on tv, it was in Super Star K i think, his parents were harassed and he got so much hate.
    for celebrities or non-celebrities in Korea, coming out is basically committing a social suicide.
    that's not a matter to joke about.
    the cast of this show seems to be mean and stupid.

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  185. Wow, that's a lot of generalisation and stereotypes. I am a female and I am not "coy" in anyway. I am very outspoken and direct but I am not rude. Similarly, none of the women I am friends are "coy" shy little rabbits either. I also I can't think of a single male friend I know who would act in the way that these guys on this show did.

    Putting down the behaviour of the people on this show to "guys being guys" merely lets them off the hook for their appalling and completely unacceptable behaviour. Even if they believed him to be gay, it was none of their business and they have absolutely no right to demand he tell them.

    Kim Jae Woong may well be comfortable with being gay but that is not the point. The point is that he was *forced* to out himself on a television program. No-one should be forced to out themselves. Coming out is a big thing and it should be something people do when they feel ready to do it, not when someone demands it of them.

    I knew my younger brother was gay long before he came out to me when he was 18 years old but I respected his privacy and waited for him to tell me when he was ready.

    Saying that this will not affect Kim Jae Woong is also the height of arrogance, as you have no idea how being forced to come out on television will affect him. And it is irrelevant whether he is well-known or not. Being outed in a public forum is huge deal and can have a big impact, even if you are completely comfortable with who you are.

    What if his parents and family did not know? What if he is okay in his own skin but not ready or willing to be publicly known as gay? There are loads more scenarios that we are not even privy to that may impact on him because he has been forced out of the closet. All of these things can have a huge emotional and social impact on someone. This is why no-one should ever out anyone else.

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  186. Yeah, being harassed and confronted and left with basically little choice is nothing because he responded with a definite answer and all is well.


    Yeah, everything for the ratings!
    Kahi shares a story about a boyfriend for the ratings:
    No! Kahi is indiscreet and humiliated someone on TV by dishing dirt on them!


    Yeah, I suspect Hyuna is a slut and non virgin.
    I have to fly to korea and ask her so that you know, I can finally move on with my life.

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  187. I don't know what your point is. Why don't you spell it out instead of trying to make a point by being sarcastic all the time. You think Kahi did the right thing revealing private details about someone else on TV? Is that what you mean? How is that similar to revealing private things about yourself and not someone else? You are drawing parallels that don't fit in an attempt to make an argument.

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  188. Thats part of mannerisms no ?

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  189. According to the bible, people shouldn't eat hares or shellfish either. I'm just saying that there WAS a phrase in the bible that talks about how it's supposedly wrong. Take that stick out of your ass and read the disclaimer.

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  190. i disagree. because i still feel like you are narrowing it down to genitalia? let's say a person has been doing hormone therapy but they are unable to get sex reassignment surgery until a way later day (i would think it's super expensive - hell i would think hormone therapy is expensive too but google doesn't tell me that much) does that make them less of a man or woman? no it does not. i also believe it can apply to even earlier - during hormone therapy - before hormone therapy. the way you word it makes it sound like everything begins and ends with the surgeries and it also invalidates how a trans person identifies until said surgeries take place.

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  191. JohnDoe7's point is that no-one should be forced to come out of the closet. Which is exactly what happened in this case. He was FORCED into coming out. Do you think if they had not corned him and demanded he tell them, he would have suddenly just say "hey by the way I like men". Highly damn unlikely.

    It is totally irrelevant whether or not he is comfortable with being gay or unashamed of being gay. That isn't the point. The point is that he was forced to out himself publicly on television because people pushed him into a corner and demanded it off him.

    And so what if people are curious? It's none of their damn business. Just as it is none of my business if you are virgin or not or who you might or might not be having sex with. Just as I have no right to demand to know if you are virgin or to demand who you may or may not be sleeping with because I may be curious, no-one has the right to demand someone come out to them just because they might be curious as to whether a person is gay or not.

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  192. I see your logic now,


    Kahi revealing dirt on someone = bad because it's someone's dirt


    Harassing someone about his sexual orientation to make him declare his sexual orientation = OK because it came from mouth! Even though they left him with little choice, he answered himself about his sexual orientation and therefore its voluntary!

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  193. that's an extremely broad generalization...

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