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Wednesday, February 19, 2014

Stellar's 'Marionette' hits 2 million views + KCC discusses with music show PDs on restrictions


Article: [Exclusive] KCC takes out the knife against girl group sexually suggestive controversies "No more exposure"

Source: Joy News via Naver

KCC summoned the producers of major music shows like Inkigayo, Music Bank, and Music Core regarding sexy girl group concepts. They will be discussing measures to put on such concepts.

1. [+11,407, -539] They are definitely going too far lately. Music videos make them look like pub girls..

2. [+8,571, -469] Makes me uncomfortable to watch something with that much skin exposure

3. [+8,082, -467] This should've happened a long time ago

4. [+7,654, -347] Stellar's definitely taking it too far...

5. [+1,543, -86] I understand that this can be a form of art performance but girl groups don't look artsy at all but rather like pub girls... If stripping and dancing are two components of being a singer, then a lot of people can be singers.

6. [+1,302, -63] Boy groups only get slapped with 19+ warnings while the KCC did nothing all promotion long for girl groups and it's only now after their promotions are over that they're stepping in ㅋㅋㅋ

7. [+996, -65] Poor Stellar... tsk

8. [+882, -27] They're so slow..;;;; This has been going on since last year. I'd hardly call Stellar or Rainbow singers;;; their music videos are advertisements for adult entertainment centers;;;

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Article: Stellar's 19+ 'Marionette' MV hits 2 million views in a week

Source: Newsen via Nate

1. [+544, -27] This is why more and more groups resort to stripping... Even if they get hated on, they can still get public recognition... ㅠㅠ

2. [+488, -90] It seems that girl groups keep trying to expose their chests or their butts because they believe all men like that but they are damn right if they think that it's true because it is

3. [+247, -226] Everyone's just baring their teeth at these girls~~ Stellar, find strength~ Don't pay any mind to tehse comments~~ Continue expanding out into the world~~ Fighting~~~

4. [+20, -9] I'm sure people only watched the first time and not again after that

5. [+14, -11] 2 million tissues have been used

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141 comments:

  1. 5. [+1,543, -86] I understand that this can be a form of art performance but girl groups don't look artsy at all but rather like pub girls... If stripping and dancing are two components of being a singer, then a lot of people can be singers.

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  2. 5. [+14, -11] 2 million tissues have been used

    LOL!!!

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  3. They are going to allow MOGEF to censor even more stuff now and Stellar is the scapegoat.

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  4. 5. [+14, -11] 2 million tissues have been used

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  5. "2. [+488, -90] It seems that girl groups keep trying to expose their
    chests or their butts because they believe all men like that but they
    are damn right if they think that it's true because it is"


    dingdingding! hopefully these sexually suggestive concepts fade out now. i have a feeling it will cause it's been squeezed dried!



    after all the nonsense hate on the stellar girls, i am rooting for them.

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  6. good effort everyone! lets get the mv to 3 million views now!

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  7. [+247, -226] Everyone's just baring their teeth at these girls~~ Stellar, find strength~ Don't pay any mind to tehse comments~~ Continue expanding out into the world~~ Fighting~~~

    the downvotes tho

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  8. 5. [+14, -11] 2 million tissues have been used



    You're right dear k-net

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  9. Why are people only talking about girl groups' sexy concepts? Why aren't you all talking about cutting down on male exposure as well? Sure it doesn't really happen that often that males go onto the sexy concept (at least not in the kpop I've seen). But it still happens, like pretty often? You should talk about this as a whole problem with both genders.



    Anyways taking AOA for an example, they didn't make it in the industry until they did a sexy concept. And people say there's no such thing as sex sells in the media.. (I've actually heard people say that)

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  10. the song is good actually beside the grab butt and boobs dance

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  11. 5. [+14, -11] 2 million tissues have been used



    Maybe I'm extremely innocent but my first thought was why are people crying over this lol

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  12. I really like Stellar's song either way so I don't bother with the MV.

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  13. Forget about bullying, suicide and sexual harrassment, girlgroups sexy concepts is def korean #1 problem

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  14. I never liked sexy concepts but I tolerated them because I only cared for the music. However, now every song with a sexy concept sounds the same and I can't look at an MV without butt scratching moves being shoved in my face.

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  15. they got what they wanted...........

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  16. Same lol my friend who's with me right now had to explain lol

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  17. I really hate how awkward the dance looked in the mv. Its should be called awkward rather than sexy.

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  18. [+14, -11] 2 million tissues have been used



    what?

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  19. ikr? Instead of crying over concepts, how about fixing those serious problems that occurs every second. It's so frustrating.

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  20. Because of publicity like this because of sexy concept, no wonder some CEOs keep doing this. They want their artists survive too. Entertaiment's world is harsh, btw.

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  21. 2. [+488, -90] It seems that girl groups keep trying to expose their chests or their butts because they believe all men like that but they are damn right if they think that it's true because it is

    comment number two telling it as it is. hahaha. i thought is was going in a different direction first reading the comment.

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  22. Girl groups with sexy concepts don't last long. It's only for a short time.

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  23. 5. [+14, -11] 2 million tissues have been used
    O.O

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  24. 6. [+1,302, -63] Boy groups only get slapped with 19+ warnings while the KCC did nothing all promotion long for girl groups and it's only now after their promotions are over that they're stepping in ㅋㅋㅋ

    which girl group is being shaded?

    2. [+488, -90] It seems that girl groups keep trying to expose their chests or their butts because they believe all men like that but they are damn right if they think that it's true because it is

    Partly true.....people, reyardless of preference, are still different from one another

    5. [+14, -11] 2 million tissues have been used

    Ewwwwwwwww

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  25. hahahah i didnt see that end coming >.<
    expecting something else

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  26. 8. [+882, -27] They're so slow..;;;; This has been going on since last year. I'd hardly call Stellar or Rainbow singers;;; their music videos are advertisements for adult entertainment centers;;;

    Stellar's album is actually good though. Guilty is amazing :(

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  27. Knetz make that kind of sarcasm all the time.

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  28. Now its not about sexy concept, more like sex concept. Done with it.

    Im in for YG and SM war tho. :3

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  29. These groups want attention and unfortunately the agencies need to make money and having a sexier concept seems to be the factor that gets them what they want. People tend to look into these songs out of curiosity from the criticism. All of those 2 million views on Stellar's MV was out of curiosity (for the most part). Sadly when they have to go this route, the negativity can overshadow the actual music. Also this attention is temporary and people's attention will go elsewhere when the next group outsexifies them.

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  30. aww, you're cute ^^

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  31. Marrionette is a really good song (I haven't heard the album), but all this negativity is overshadowing any talent they have.

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  32. . [+14, -11] 2 million tissues have been used
    Lmao you nasty

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  33. I keep wondering though....what's the difference between stellar's concept and miss a's bad girl good girl?
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TeeJvcBdLA

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  34. "2. [+8,571, -469] Makes me uncomfortable to watch something with that much skin exposure"


    taking a shower must be really hard for these 8,000+ people

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  35. it's probably a problem because of its effect it can have on young girls and boys being introduced to a sexualized world much earlier than they should.

    however these groups will continue to do it cause sex sells.

    as much as these netizen (korean and international) claim to be saints the video didn't watch itself

    people voluntarily clicked to watch those videos

    so instead of complaining how about they just ignore

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  36. I think it's ridiculous how k-netz were all up in arms with the Stellar post and others about how it's gone too far and it's trashy and how kpop is filled with this nonsense and how it should stop. And then everyone freaking watches these videos anyway. If you want it to go away, don't give it attention, even to see 'how bad it is' or 'what the fuss is about'. Seriously, this isn't a hard concept. /headdesk

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  37. meanwhile, snsd's MR. MR. comeback teaser reached 3 million within a week

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  38. lol, i still don't get it

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  39. I see a lot of differences between these two. The main one is that miss A's choreography is nowhere near as awkward as Stellar's & their outfits aren't made to be super sexually suggestive as Stellar's are.

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  40. they know how to maintain their moves, it's more charismatic than sexy

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  41. nb can u post about the olympics and korea's response to asada mao flopping in the short program

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  42. 1. [+544, -27] This is why more and more groups resort to stripping... Even if they get hated on, they can still get public recognition... ㅠㅠ



    Exactly. All the hate they receive makes others curious so they will check it out and there you go, the recognition, views, public interest & attention (good or bad) they wanted is achieved, which makes other nugu groups decide this is the way to go for popularity and try to outdo the previous group.
    At first I didn't mind girl group's doing sexy concept but the more it went on, the more sleazy, cheap & tack it became.

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  43. 5. [+14, -11] 2 million tissues have been used

    http://25.media.tumblr.com/63c28ca1811eaac9ad35881275650ea4/tumblr_mn1vuhpY0b1rmy0dbo1_500.gif

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  44. Knetz are so pressed it's sad, they don't know the difference between erotic and porn. What they're doing is not porn in any shape or form.

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  45. so are 2ne1 and SNSD the only girls group that don't strip and they still make fanboys and fangirls to drool?

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  46. Stellar's song is daebak and after watching their vids from 2011-13, I hope the members are happy now... Fighting!

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  47. What about f(x)?

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  48. Yep, You can also add APink to that list as well as f(x)

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  49. well, miss A is going for a strong girls image in BGGG. Stellar are going for a marionettes image. Also, the milk scene, the focus on their boobs, miss A's choreography is less sexual, the way they were promoted on Facebook, etc

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  50. No one solves problems one at a time

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  51. 2 million views.. well congrats to you. you've gained more recognition but earned hate

    this is what the comapny wants right?

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  52. rather than the performances it's maybe the MVs that they should ban.
    i mean, correct me if i'm wrong but an MV has to be approved before being released right ?
    so shouldn't they try to rectify the MV and performance before their release ?
    anyway why only the girls groups ?
    if they want to do something better be less hypocrite and mysoginist.

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  53. dont get it either tbh.

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  54. Guys jerk off to the video. Hence the tissues.

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  55. Bad publicity is still publicity and their song has done well. I guess it is mission accomplished.

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  56. meanwhile the unlike is more than the like on their MV

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  57. I actually think Korea is a bit too strict when it comes to things like this. If parents don't want their children to be exposed to such things, then they shouldn't allow them to watch them lol. If you've instilled "good values" and morals into your children, and are confident in that, then you shouldn't be worried about them being so easily influenced by simple music videos lol. I'm not saying that I care for Stellar or their MV, or any artist of the sort, but artists shouldn't have their artistic expression limited because of what parents want for their children lol. Don't some of these music programs have age-ratings anyway? I'd assume so.

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  58. the milk scene is just too gross

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  59. you know I dont mind sexy concepts as long as its not vulgar and the song its good but what makes me a bit upset is that the girls shouldn't be blamed that much because its the company that forces them to do so and when u are under a contract I dont think u have much choice but to accept what they give you and then its business you need to survive somehow and if doing what the rest of the world does gives u more money you have to do it. MONEY>>>PRIDE

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  60. Go Stellar!
    You are doing it right.
    Now just push on and keep getting noticed and use it to go further!

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  61. the song actually good though..it keep stuck in my head for few days now..too bad the MV overshadowing all...the choreo after got revised is pretty bearable to watch..I just wish they change their outfit

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  62. Why do they need tissues for?

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  63. That teaser is no joke.
    Its only a teaser too. That's why GG's vids go to 50 Mil easy.

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  64. I hope they use this opportunity to comeback with a great song and a better concept and not try to assert how they got their name out there ... this will of course depend on the minds running their company.

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  65. Agreed about discussing this problem about both genders. People are full on dissing Sunmi's spreading legs choreography, probably because of the sexual implications of it but then there's Got7's choreo where Jackson has that pelvic side to side movement. I'm pretty sure if you think about it, that has sexual implications as well. I don't mind people being uncomfortable with the sexy concept because that's their opinion but I don't like this one sided argument where only the girls are belittled mostly.

    0.33-0.36 (Jackson's pelvic movement)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC6If-rM0c4

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  66. Oh to be young and naive...

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  67. Because it didn't happen very often people didn't really notice or just let it pass but with these girl groups almost all of them stripping one by one just like that, that it hard to tell which girl groups actually sells their talents (whether it's dinging, dancing, or even rapping) rather than their bodies.

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  68. If u dont use tissues thrn where thr fk r u gonna wipe .your cum

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  69. now i feel tainted for understanding it right off the bat...

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  70. BUT THE SONG IS GOOD

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  71. Once you cum, white stuff will splatter. Now, If you had a brain, you will use a tissue...

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  72. To clean up after they cum.

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  73. HAHAH was that comment supposed to be dirty? My mind definitely didn't go there first.

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  74. How old are you?

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  75. The dance moves in BGGG aren't there just for the sake of having sexy moves, which happened a lot in Marionette. Marionette was too much, putting in ~sexy~ moves that only horny teenage boys find sexy.

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  76. To clean up after they're done having fun

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  77. it sucks that such groups or even singers that are talented don't get recognized but once they do something provocative they get the recognition that get but for the wrong reasons tsk

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  78. I think the difference here is that SNSD is a huge, popular group that win international awards, while many people have never even heard of Stellar before. This achievement is huge for them. Heck, even some groups with a bigger fanbase than them can't get 2 million in a week.

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  79. The difference is Miss A performed it with sexy and classy ;).
    That's it. Miss A sexiness is wayyyy more classy than stellar. I like stellar song but I don't know why they make this shitty mv.

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  80. 4. [+20, -9] I'm sure people only watched the first time and not again after that



    yes because i downloaded it ~~~

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  81. I wonder what's on their parents' mind right now?? Feel bad for their mom & dad tho'

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  82. to offer them to their parents in case they walk in on them jerking off to a my little pony video and start crying

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  83. They still wear revealing clothes, they just don't do sexy concepts.

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  84. Quite right mate.

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  85. 4. [+20, -9] I'm sure people only watched the first time and not again after that

    if people really did that then there would be no backlash against sexy concepts. click it once ,if u dont like it then close it and move on with your life but sadly yall can do that.

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  86. Stellar is doing it right.
    They are doing what they must to survive in this cutthroat industry.
    Get noticed right away and then use it to propel them to higher stages.

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  87. 2. [+488, -90] It seems that girl groups keep trying to expose their chests or their butts because they believe all men like that but they are damn right if they think that it's true because it is



    Haha.. didn't expect it tbh but he(i assume) is right. :'D

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  88. It's better than people being unaware of their existence. No point in being a celebrity if no one knows who you are.

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  89. man if they ban sexy moves music shows are gonna be so boring ;___;

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  90. And it just image teaser not the real mv teaser

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  91. The only problem I have with stellar video is that clothe. Not beacuse of the lack of them or the sexiness .. It's just that is the ugliest that I have seen in a kpop mv in a long time xD

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  92. they must not be married either

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  93. as long as they didn't wear revealing clothes i think koreans don't mind it

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  94. You know what they mean. Watching yourself get naked is very much different from watching other people get naked.

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  95. I really wonder the reaction of their family /relatives after watching their mvs

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  96. somehow when they perform, it's not really sexy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgyJz9AGYqE

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  97. BEST THREAD i'm crying!

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  98. Some people just aren't comfortable talking about sex or viewing things that are sexual.

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  99. Maybe I read too many posts on 9gag that I got that comment right off the bat like you too hahaha... I feel so tainted too especially for a girl =))

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  100. So sorry even of you hit 2 million I still don't care or know who u are

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  101. Finally a reason to use this lmfap

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  102. fap fap fap fap fap

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  103. i'm still disappointed. possibility for a really good mv bec of the song... wasted.

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  104. The butt dance doesn't help.

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  105. Woah, that upvotes to 11k. And the downvotes are probably men lol

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  106. I agree. The song is good, surprisingly really good actually.

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  107. Stellar - A boy use me and I'm going to keep being used but i love him, poor me, such a bad guy.


    Miss A - I'm confident so boys are scared and talk behind my back, but I just don't care because I'm strong enough. If the boy is confident enough to accept a strong woman he can come to me. Being strong is not being bad.


    Just read the lyrics...both concepts follow their lyrics pretty well, in dance moves specially, I just find in comun the clothes (and miss A's is much better xD).

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  108. It's okay, you don't need to. You'll understand when you're older. We have to protect them while they're still young.

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  109. that comment is genius.. and i am very mature to understand it right off since i saw those pic.. lol (i am a girl)

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  110. lol thas the first thing I thought too

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  111. Stellar's choreography was awkward, it was like the choreographer was just like INSERT SEXY MOVE HERE at random points in the song and just forced it in. Miss A's choreography flowed naturally and they're much better/more natural dancers so it looks better.


    I thought Miss A was very sexy here but it was not gratuitous and exploitative. And the meanings of the songs are different.

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  112. And this is exactly what the company wanted.

    http://api.ning.com/files/Qek1KaudBezRnkRJY-Ib*gkL5WZfQCbyS6bHNliwg3ylqjOWKETrtY*9eaqNKOL9fthBuLQIYnr871nN9tYqbQ__/Yup.Gif

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  113. 5. [+1,543, -86] I understand that this can be a form of art performance but girl groups don't look artsy at all but rather like pub girls... If stripping and dancing are two components of being a singer, then a lot of people can be singers.

    6. [+1,302, -63] Boy groups only get slapped with 19+ warnings while the KCC did nothing all promotion long for girl groups and it's only now after their promotions are over that they're stepping in ㅋㅋㅋ



    This tbh.

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  114. I AM FIRE, I AM DEATHFebruary 19, 2014 at 7:34 PM

    same here ... until u said it ...

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  115. Cause: Well America didn't pay attention to how sexualized behavior was portrayed to little kids in public


    Effect: We have a bunch of pregnant 16 year olds running around

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  116. Yeah that's the biggest reason + one guy doing it for a few seconds can't compare to whole songs/concepts lol.

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  117. trust me if 2NE1 or SNSD didn't come from one of the big companies they would working at Micky's

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  118. Whether it's bad attention or good attention: attention is attention. They just got popular by being hated on.

    Well done stellar's company.

    http://tattletailzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/yup.gif

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  119. They succeded in their plan, now they are getting alot of attention

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  120. it's for nosebleed, people >..<

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  121. So korean 16 years old can be bullied sexually harassed and commit suicide, but God forbid them from getting pregnant. I'm talking about priorities and you are comparing Korea to America

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  122. 3. [+8,082, -467] This should've happened a long time ago



    I think so too tbh.

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  123. its doesn't end with music show restrictions.. the company still can produce this kind of mv... *sigh* i hope no more girl groups will end up with this cheap, disgusting, trashy concept... there's a huge difference between being cheap and sexy

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  124. i think there should be a shift in perception.the bands need to focus further with sex concepts and identify with mature audiences.reach out to a global market such as you can through youtube etc.sex slls,we all know that,you just need to present it where it will be accepted with open arms.and you can make your tv appearances for the young folks with toned down concepts.ok guys be bold!

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  125. "So korean 16 years old can be bullied, sexually harassed and commit suicide," Where in my comment did I say this is right too? I'm just saying this is also an issue. Unfortunately for bullying no matter how hard we try whether it stops or not are up to people look at the U.S they have bullying laws but yet bullying still goes on because people are too scared to talk, teachers are too lazy to do their jobs, people just don't care about the consequences. To stop bullying is something that is up too each individual no matter how hard we try.


    Source: Someone who was bullied as a kid

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  126. There are many more factors as to why South Korea has low pregnancy rates it is not directly correlated with their media.

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  127. i thought they performed at an army event...the Fanchants

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  128. I'm trying to point out in my comment if it wasn't clear enough, is how messed up their priorities are, but people always miss the point

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  129. Only watched 1 interview, I cant watch too many boy group's interview because of the faggotry.

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  130. sorry but i was so angry when i wrote that comment...especially about the playback thingy... (and.. idk if i regret saying what i said...)
    well, that was my opinion , and i don't see why would you call my "behavior" as "immature" ...? the things i stated were , yu know, facts...(i like -yuknowwho- too,... Indeed, they're talented hhh but i hate how BAP are not as popular as the "others" when they have VERY good skills in terms of Rapping , singing and dancing ...


    and you're more than welcome ~^^~

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