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Friday, November 22, 2013

Heechul says men prefer Bora's body type


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Article: Kim Heechul "Men prefer bodies like SISTAR's Bora"

Source: TV Daily via Nate

1. [+668, -64] Even girls don't like bodies like Sooyoung's. She's not prettily thin but thin in a way that it makes her look poor. She has no volume and it's just not pretty at all.

2. [+548, -44] Bora's actually thin... just that she's toned and curvy. Someone with a body like Sooyoung's could try to add weight and muscle but they'd never achieve curves like Bora's.

3. [+377, -198] Why do you think you can represent men by answering that? Your answer is completely subjective ㅋㅋㅋ

4. [+29, -18] I've rarely ever seen women prefer bodies like Sooyoung's. People who go for thin body types usually prefer Kim Min Hee or Gong Hyo Jin, stars with good proportions. Sooyoung's just thin with no tone or definition and her proportions aren't that great either.

5. [+21, -6] I've never even seen any man in the army say they like Sooyoung's body

6. [+15, -9] Women totally hate Sooyoung's body type. Like the best reply says, she's thin in a way that it makes her look poor. Her head looks proportionally big and she has no curves from the waist down. Someone like After School's Nana is thin in a curvy way. I actually prefer bodies like G.NA or Choi Yeo Jin... tall and toned. Kim Hye Soo as well.

7. [+11, -4] Bora's waist is a straight line;;; I prefer Hyorin's body more

8. [+11, -9] Girls like Krystal's body

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Article: Kim Heechul "My name was on the list of gambling celebrities?"

Source: TV Report via Naver

1. [+2,557, -66] I'm just so happy about Boom getting caught ㅋㅋㅋ

2. [+1,676, -164] No one suspected him, why is he acting like there's something

3. [+1,405, -200] I don't care what you do

4. [+341, -42] Kim Heechul seems like he's on the show to just rumble thoughtlessly. The show's purpose is for the MCs to give insight and information through various viewpoints but Heechul just spews knowledge that anyone can think of. I have no idea what SM was thinking putting him on the show.

5. [+278, -40] I don't know why Heechul's on the show... Who put him there??

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491 comments:

  1. 1. [+2,557, -66] I'm just so happy about Boom getting caught ㅋㅋㅋ



    I guess no one likes Boom

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  2. Why did Heechul say that? I don't get it.

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  3. 1. [+2,557, -66] I'm just so happy about Boom getting caught ㅋㅋㅋ


    Damn. K-netz hate Boom. Is it the entertainment division military service thing or something else? I know he was really ripped for Strong Heart and his variety shows acting like he was being sent off to fight on the front lines in Iraq or something when all he did was go the military and do the exact same thing he did every day in the real world, just with a higher percentage of male audience members and guests.

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  4. Heechul WOULD talk about the hot bodies he sees.



    LOL I remember years back that someone asked him what his favorite female body part is and he said "Chest muscles." because an idol shouldn't say "Breasts" on-air.

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  5. [+341, -42] Kim Heechul seems like he's on the show to just rumble thoughtlessly. The show's purpose is for the MCs to give insight and information through various viewpoints but Heechul just spews knowledge that anyone can think of.



    Hmm then why does the journalist have to make articles over his "senseless" remarks?

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  6. "Boys will be boys"

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  7. yuri, seohyun, krystal, victoria have the prettiest bodies

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  8. 4. [+341, -42] Kim Heechul seems like he's on the show to just rumble
    thoughtlessly. The show's purpose is for the MCs to give insight and
    information through various viewpoints but Heechul just spews knowledge
    that anyone can think of. I have no idea what SM was thinking putting
    him on the show.



    i agree with this comment, sometimes it seems he has no idea what they're talking about, just sitting there look around awkwardly. poor guy.

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  9. As a girl, I prefer Ailee's body over others girls/girl groups bodies.

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  10. I used to love Heechul but the more and more he talks... its getting annoying now. No body is the best body. Woman have such diverse bodies. Just as long as people are heathly
    p.s- you cant tell how healthy a girl is by how skinny she is

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  11. [+29, -18] I've rarely ever seen women prefer bodies like Sooyoung's. People who go for thin body types usually prefer Kim Min Hee or Gong Hyo Jin, stars with good proportions. Sooyoung's just thin with no tone or definition and her proportions aren't that great either.

    the problem here is...all these knets comments bout woman's body type bugs me...so judgemental...

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  12. also cl has pretty body

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  13. people say fat shaming is a no no but people have no problem with skinny shaming. So judgemental

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  14. Journalists in Korea write everything and whatever they want, senseless or not.
    They even sometimes make articles from the rumors started by users in dc gall or other Korean boards.

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  15. What's with putting Sooyoung down? A lot of girls with that type of body naturally have a fast metabolism; even if they try to gain weight, it's not easy

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  16. krystal and sooyoung's body looks the same to me. Krystal just has abs.

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  17. but curvy in korea is stil thin for us.. its about standarts in our countries ..curvy for African Americans vs Latinas vs Caucasians vs Asians are very different

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  18. Why do we have to bring down one person just to get a point across? Judging everyone in that article.

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  19. this looks like sooyoung's body to you?

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  20. Is he on this show permanently or is this all from one episode?

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  21. 6. [+15, -9] Women totally hate Sooyoung's body type. Like the best
    reply says, she's thin in a way that it makes her look poor. Her head
    looks proportionally big and she has no curves from the waist down.
    Someone like After School's Nana is thin in a curvy way. I actually
    prefer bodies like G.NA or Choi Yeo Jin... tall and toned. Kim Hye Soo
    as well.

    LOL this reminds me of shin dong-yup's words on witch hunt --- IU's face with G.na's body, wulli namja's ultimate dream girl.

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  22. What's with all the Sooyoung shade, jeez. The girl herself is insecure about her body, no need to bring her down every chance you get netizens.

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  23. What about girls who are naturally chopstick skinny though? :0

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  24. i prefer clara's body tbh

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  25. What would Heechul know about what men prefer in women

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  26. I can either see fat or thin...oh yeah most people's body really looks the same to me on tv. I cant really differenciate...sorry boss..

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  27. Why drag Sooyoung into this?

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  28. 3. [+377, -198] Why do you think you can represent men by answering that? Your answer is completely subjective ㅋㅋㅋ


    pretty much!

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  29. TBH, I don't get why people get so upset over Heechul's words. He's always been saying these kinds of things anyway, and I've been a fan of his since freaking 2006. He has said things like this and more. The only difference is that now he's an MC of a show and people keep posting articles about every freaking sentence he says, regardless of whatever context it has in the ~bigger~ conversation.

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  30. Here we go with the "I think _____ has best body!" "No _____ has the best body." in the NB comment section. Who gives a fuck?

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  31. Never had an opinion about Heechul before he went on this show. Now, I seem to dislike him a little more after each episode...making fun of BoA and SNSD's songs and now this...why does he always have to bring down his label mates? If I were SM, I'd pull him off the show.


    It's not even about him "speaking the truth" anymore; he is just being rude. It;s one thing to be playful with the members offscreen, treating them like friends, but there are boundaries that needs to be made when you are discussing about products released from your company...what the hell is he thinking..

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  32. And people like him for being honest?
    He's just a tactless insensitive person.

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  33. Enough with the skinny shaming already!

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  34. HALLELUJAH AND AAMEN.

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  35. I have the same type of body like sooyoung and trust me it's so hard to gain weight even though i want to, especially being from the Middle East where curvier and rounder bodies are more wanted ><
    so here's no need to bring her down by it, it's not like its her fault and I'm pretty sure she wants to gain some weight too as she said before herself

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  36. Pretty much. I don't get the whole 'used to... but now...' thing. Heechul was always the same and acted the same. I don't know what people thought him to be O_o

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  37. ikr he prefers.. other things... also he said before he hasn't meet a girl that is prettier than him... seriously? he's just a douche

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  38. He's part of the permanent panel of hosts.

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  39. ...Meanwhile I'm sitting here seeing how many cookies I can fit into my mouth at once... OTL

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  40. Kim Heechul "My name was on the list of gambling celebrities?"


    and your point is? tsk tsk tsk this dude

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  41. lol bora is probably the same weight as sooyoung she's just short
    sooyoung has a great body i don't get why they have to put her down just to make bora look good, they can say bora has a great body without insulting everone else who doesn't have a body like hers

    3. [+377, -198] Why do you think you can represent men by answering that? Your answer is completely subjective ㅋㅋㅋ
    mfte

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  42. I've said this before - he's on this show permanently and since it touches sensitive and generally taboo subjects, we're bound to have articles every week on the same day about every word he says. I'm just surprised last week was so quiet tbh.

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  43. As a girl I like my body type the best because it's mine I fucking love me.

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  44. As someone who used to be super skinny and had difficulty gaining weight, all the comments about Sooyoung disgust me because I used to hear that about me. :(

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  45. this! he's basically just bashing people and his "friends" cuz he said before he's friends with SNSD, etc, he's the worst

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  46. It's because Heechul actually said men prefer bora's body type over sooyoung's that's why k-netz mentions sooyoung

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  47. Week after week, it's the same. Heechul talks shit and it becomes news. Are people not used to this by now that articles have to be posted every single time a new episode of this show airs? It won't change his ways and just suddenly start to sugar-coat everything.


    And he wasn't wrong about the Bora thing, though. But it's also the same for girls. Just look at all those "this is sexy, that is not" pictures of Marilyn Monroe and models of today.

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  48. It would have been better if no one had to be dragged in just to bring the point across...

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  49. People these days think its okay to skinny shame people while its just as bad as fat shaming

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  50. And this is just the proof that skinny girls are bullied because of their bodies too. Not just chubby girls.

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  51. same, also the speed of which I can eat them, because everyone is just against everyone when it comes to food. it's either you don't eat or eat it all. there is no in between

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  52. I agree. After watching this video of her at the gym...wow. she worked hard for that body.

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  53. GNA's body is great and all but in all honesty she's just as skinny as Sooyoung, the only difference is that she has bigger boobs. Which doesnt automatically make you curvy because thats just your top half ><

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  54. to be honest I'd think a lot of Korean men would be intimidated by Bora's body because they're probably skinnier than her

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  55. screw that i would trade mine for Sooyoung's any day

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  56. Netizens are bullies in every way. That includes us here.

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  57. Kahi has an amazing body too IMO.

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  58. There's not need to put down Sooyoung's body type though. I prefer Bora's body type but I wouldn't unnecessarily put down Soo's body type.

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  59. I figure I'd rather enjoy life than worry about what I eat. So EAT ALL OF THE COOKIES.

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  60. this. its not that I dont like him for sharing his opinion but I always wonder why did he always feel the need to drop names while stating his opinion. It happens from week to week.

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  61. http://images6.fanpop.com/image/polls/1169000/1169448_1358382054402_full.jpg

    is a lot different in my eyes.

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  62. cause he's an idol and his opinion gets more attention from the public

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  63. G.NA has the nicest body type imo^^*

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  64. The only reason he seem changed is that before what he said fit with what he was supposed to do. now its a little out of place. but i think this unnecessary articles want to give Heechul that image. its important to hear the whole conversion not just a bit of it.

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  65. its fine to hate the comments but dont hate bora..

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  66. [+377, -198] Why do you think you can represent men by answering that? Your answer is completely subjective ㅋㅋㅋ



    thank you, voice of reason. Every one prefers different stuff, using a blanket statement about all men liking one specific thing is stupid. Some people will like curves, some will like skinny, some will like plus sized.

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  67. she has a nice body but she's not tall

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  68. This so much. People need to know that criticizing skinny girls like this is as sensitive as criticizing the plus size. The comments are really offensive towards skinny girls its not like we arent trying to gain some weight

    Anyway sooyoung was brought up because the MCs were discussing that girls envy sooyoung's body a lot, to which heechul replied that guys like bora's type instead :)

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  69. G.Na's gotten so alarmingly skinny over the past two years. Her boobs just make her look bigger when she's really skinny in real life.

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  70. Heechul didn't mention Sooyoung though. He only praised Bora and the netizens just added on to it.

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  71. kahi has amazing abs but she's thin

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  72. "6. [+15, -9] Women totally hate Sooyoung's body type."

    Well i hope people don't think 15 k-netizens represent the whole of women population.

    "1. [+2,557, -66] I'm just so happy about Boom getting caught ㅋㅋㅋ"



    Well i hope the 2,557 k-netizens lead a happy life gloating at other people's misfortune. Ending it with ㅋㅋㅋ says a lot about these lowlife morons.

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  73. for me I like a body to be healthy, whatever its a skinny body or chubbier body. what I hate is the forced sickly diets people puts themselves through.

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  74. He didn't bash Sooyoung though? He just said that Bora's body type is more preferred. There's the fucking difference.


    And no, he didn't make fun of BoA. He criticized the performance as a whole. It just so happened that BoA was part of the performance. And please, as if what he said about SNSD's recent songs was wrong. I bet even the girls themselves know they're not selling because of their songs, but more of because of their overall brand/image.

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  75. i wanna see the comments from jiyeon's teaser how do you request or something idk

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  76. gambling's illegal in korea, tbh i would be annoyed if he got away with it

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  77. In my defense, I didn't mention his name either lol.

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  78. I hear a lot of times that most men like curvious body but how about the girls that naturally skinny?...well, some men like skinny girls, some others like curvy girls, the other ones like chubby girls, and one of them probably don't like girls at all. I do believe that in the end of the day, personality speaks more.

    As long as i'm healthy and happy, i don't care about what most men would say. Men had their rights to say what they want and woman like me had the right to do what i want. :) :)

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  79. g.na has boobs but she's super skinny everywhere else
    hyosung's short

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  80. I'd be annoyed too, to be honest. But will you express your opinion or thoughts about this issue the way these 2,557 k-netizens do?

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  81. ‘War of Words’

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  82. yes but its not about height but about body type.. you can be tall and have amazing body but also short and have amazing body

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  83. Hm... Personally I thought G.na's body looked really nice in the Oops comeback~

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  84. wtf is "poor skinny" anyway??? I've never heard of this stupid term until now.

    Sooyoung is already insecure about her body without knetz adding to it + other girls who share her body type.

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  85. Even SNSD hate their own song. They couldn't even get through IGAB promotions without wanting to cringe at how they're gonna explain the damn song.

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  86. Heechul explained how most women really wanted a body like Sooyoung's because she was thin and tall like a model. Park Ji Yoon said that was why Sooyoung looked good in anything she wore.

    However, Heechul continued, "But men are not like that. Men prefer the body of someone like SISTAR's Bora."

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  87. i don't really think it's a good idea to generalize such statements...."different people will have diff preference"...
    And honestly did they have to bring in sooyoung
    ...that was extremely insensitive from their part

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  88. Heechul brought her in as a comparison, apparently.

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  89. these comments are over-generalizing and why are they pulling down sooyoung just to get their points across? just so you know, i've seen a lot of teenage girls on tumblr who would die to have a body like sooyoung (stickly arms, protruding collarbones, HUGE thigh gaps etc) yes, bora is pretty and she has a nice, perfect body like what they said but it doesn't necessarily mean you could shame someone outright just because she don't satisfy your idea/requirements/preferrence of a perfect body? it's not like sooyoung could do anything about her body either lol

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  90. he actually DID mention sooyoung. It is writtern in the article. "이날 김희철은 선호하는 여성의 몸매에 대해 이야기하면서 "여자들은 소녀시대 수영 씨 몸매를 그렇게 좋아하더라. 모델 같고 마른 몸매를 좋아한다"고 말했다." "he called her out and used her as an example of bodies men dont like on the show."

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  91. Ohhhhh that shade. lol

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  92. it's all just body shaming and pitting women against each other for the affection of men. disgusting.

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  93. It's on the menu titled "Got A Request?" which is under the Netizenbuzz banner.

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  94. That woman! The last two Pictures look hella scary! lol

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  95. I think the main article mentioned sooyoug somewhere..

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  96. oops wrong thing to say Heechul...now your label mate is getting slammed :(

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  97. All the skinny shaming comments really get
    to me because I’ve been there talking my friend out of OD-ing on birth control
    pills in order to ‘jumpstart her hormones’ because she wanted curves and it’s
    just not the kind of attitude that I’d want to encourage, it’s not okay
    encourage people to give in to their insecurities.


    Everyone on that article apparently learnt how to hate others instead of loving themselves, it's just sad to see that.

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  98. Well, NB just translated the title and the top comments so maybe the show talks about a lot of female idols that's related to this topic BUT haven't mention here. So, let's not sky rocket ourselves into conclusions that knets just love to drag whoever they want in their comments.

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  99. That's a good way to put it~
    Who cares what men like, my body is mine, not his~ :)

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  100. I give you high five and hugs.... :D

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  101. yea only a stupid girl with a model-wannabe mind would want a body like sooyoung.lol

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  102. Boom is trash. He's been trash for years and it's only because no one on the I-side cares enough about him to translate that foreigners don't know everything he's been up to. I'm so glad I won't have to see him anymore. I've always wondered how he managed to stay in the industry when he's pulled so much crap.

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  103. Some one mentioned that the mcs were saying that girl's envy her body thus why she was brought up in the comments.

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  104. 4. [+341, -42] Kim Heechul seems like he's on the show to just rumble
    thoughtlessly. The show's purpose is for the MCs to give insight and
    information through various viewpoints but Heechul just spews knowledge
    that anyone can think of. I have no idea what SM was thinking putting
    him on the show.



    THIS. he's stupid and lame.

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  105. What the fuck is wrong with people? Why do you feel the need to body shame someone else.

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  106. 1. [+2,557, -66] I'm just so happy about Boom getting caught ㅋㅋㅋ



    LOL me too. >:) I really don't like boom. especially after his blackface and that story about how he would go to clubs pretending to be shinhwa's junjin to pick up girls. =.=

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  107. 2. [+1,676, -164] No one suspected him, why is he acting like there's something

    3. [+1,405, -200] I don't care what you do

    5. [+278, -40] I don't know why Heechul's on the show... Who put him there??



    COLD.

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  108. heechul needs to stfu.

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  109. It gets me more because I'm skinny and underweight too and sometimes people don't understand that we don't want to be like that either, I always hear people saying skinny girls are disgusting or real girls have curves, and it hurts because its not like we can help it, and calling us anorexic or things like that wont help us.

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  110. Oh i want sooyoung's weight tho :$

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  111. nb, could you translate an article on hyorin and stevie wonder??

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  112. Same here. I was sometimes made fun of because I was so thin, some people didn't think I was fed. Then when I got bigger, it's all fat jokes and asking why I don't try to lose weight. I can't win.

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  113. isn't this the second or third time he said something negative about snsd on that show?

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  114. Wait. What's wrong with being a model-wannabe? Modelling is a decent job, but it sounds like you're putting models down. If so, get off your high horse, please. lol

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  115. No, he said something about their songs that SM gives them. He just said that had another group sang The Boys then it wouldn't have done so well..which is true.

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  116. even sooyoung's body cannot be a model bcuz it's not well proportioned.

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  117. Don't ever , ever, EVER listen to them, real girls are real because they exist there is no other criteria whatsoever.

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  118. I agree. Everyone should wait to see how the entire conversation went before saying he's bashing his labelmate.

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  119. Some K-netizens have this tendency to always put praises about A and humiliation about B on the same sentence :/

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  120. I know heechul gets away with saying a lot of shit but that was totally unnecessary?? especially when she’s in the same agency..

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  121. Actually when you look at it objectively, he probably brought in Sooyoung because they're label mates, and are to an extent, close. Had he brought in another artiste from another agency, all hell will break loose, most likely.

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  122. It really is a very pretty woman I see nothing wrong with it.

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  123. ew ppl still go to allkpoop?

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  124. Heechul's telling the truth..
    Man prefer body like Bora/Hyorin

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  125. Is Heechul a man who likes woman? I don't think so. He is a gay and he only brags about who is the woman's body that man prefer without knowing anything about men's real taste.

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  126. [+377, -198] Why do you think you can represent men by answering that? Your answer is completely subjective ㅋㅋㅋ



    Seriously this^ There are guys who like skinny type of girls and there are guys who like curvy girls, and there are guys who like something else. I don't think Sooyoung's body looks "poor" if anything she works that body better than anyone else. Sooyoung has a great body, I don't get why people put her down for being naturally skinny.

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  127. loll exactly, right? i really cant wrap myself around those ideas.

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  128. The reason why it's bad to make fun of fat people is because it makes them insecure and leads to disorders. Guess what? It's the same with skinny people. Saying that Bora's body is more preferred that sooyoung is really rude. This is why Korea is so big in PS. Always comparing faces and looks and bodies. And in all honesty girls prefer Sooyoung's body. She can eat as much as she wants and never gain weight. Most girls would want that body.

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  129. Heechul vs. Jay Park (ding*ding*ding*) lol

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  130. checkmate! touchdown!

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  131. I think it's more accurate to say everyone is bully in every way, regardless if it's online or in the physical world.

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  132. She can eat as much as she wants and never gain weight. Most girls would want that body


    I agree with this. It seems like I just gain weight from breathing so I exercise a lot (it's also ideal for me to exercise often for different reasons), but just the idea of being able to eat as much as I want without never gaining weight sounds lovely to me.

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  133. me TT i'm easy to lose weight but sooo hard to gain weight
    sometimes my relatives even say to me that its useless to give me food because i won't gain weight :x

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  134. Oh boy, yes sometimes he does carry his jokes a little too far… -_- But if this becomes a real issue and Sooyoung is bothered by it, i'm pretty sure they'll joke and talk it out between themselves. I think fans can trust the two, in particular, to do that.

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  135. Good for you. Your should live with what makes you happy rather than caring about what a bunch of nobodies say.

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  136. every girl really should have a mindset like this. it's your body don't give a fuck of what others think of you.

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  137. Actually soo is bothered bcs she cant gain weight and bcs of comments about it

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  138. Even though I'm more of a curvy type, I really got annoyed by Heechul's comment. Who's he to represent the entire male gender and say that men don't like thin girls, it's insulting. As an ELF, I'm really disappointed.

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  139. I think most girls have their own kind of pretty, if they've got a nice personality, I find something pretty about them lol

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  140. Mte. I just don't care anymore.

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  141. Can he learn how to shut up before he hurts someone in some way. Some girls that are skinny feel bad bcs they cant gain weight and Sooyoung talked about it. Also has he ever thought that he maybe has a lot of skinny girls and that some of them will get offended bcs of him acting like he knows everything,


    Or at least next time how about when u compare use your own members

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  142. i agree that sooyoung needs to put on some weight, sometimes i feel so sorry for her, but then again some people just can't put on weight even if they eat a lot. plus with the stress of being a national idol, her putting on weight will definitely be harder than normal

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  143. He mentioned Sooyoung himself.

    Heechul explained how most women really wanted a body like Sooyoung's because she was thin and tall like a model. Park Ji Yoon said that was why Sooyoung looked good in anything she wore.

    However, Heechul continued, "But men are not like that. Men prefer the body of someone like SISTAR's Bora."

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  144. I just love Jung Joon Young ~~~~~
    after Immortal Song, I got to know his music. When he appeared on Happy Together (the epsidoe with Kim HyunJoong), his answers towards the MCs were so hilarious and epic =)))))

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  145. Yes i gathered that from what others wrote here… This is why i think she might have a (confrontational) chat with Heechul. It'll start off like "Yah, oppa! You have a problem with my body?!" And all will be well again after the chat.


    I know fans are concerned about how she would feel. I might be a little optimistic here but i personally think she's a strong girl and can most definitely handle this well. :)

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  146. Actually, he did. You probably did not watch the show to begin with. He called Sooyoung out as one of the body types that men don't like. I don't about you but what he did was uncalled for. He could have easily said he likes Bora's body type...there was no need of him to put down SY's body. Douche move to be honest.

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  147. I don't think he mentioned sooyoung himself. The netizens did.

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  148. lol ..are we talking about the same sooyoung??? i never thought she looked goo in anything she wore....it's the opposite .....the best (only) body in snsd is yuri (but she kinda became fat lately(?))

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  149. taeyang can be accepted in the west, in my opinion....


    but not the random crazy hair like the buns in monster mv (what the heck is the stylist thinking)

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  150. to be fair, by name dropping he's using a cultural reference-- something people are quick to understand and put into context when understanding imagery.

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  151. I think he's pretty but your case doesn't apply to me. He's pretty and cute when Jaejoong is pretty and wild (sexy, I mean).

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  152. What can be just blasting or even more is 'preference-shaming'.


    Case scenario - Guy A is a typical average guy with no major achievements but is decently happy with his life, Girl B is the popular + rich girl around school and is talented in ____ and constantly exceeds expectations of teachers and fellow students. They wind up dating, then people start criticizing how Guy A doesn't deserve her and Girl B can do better. Result is complications in relationship.


    Stereotypical example, but it happens. Happened to me. Almost every single time I had a crush. Result is I grew a lot more shy when it came to such things :3

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  153. I don't, actually. Someone on onehallyu forum made a thread about the article and I just copied/pasted :)

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  154. You Win!! I'm from Africa and my people don't understand what other cultures see in excessively thin women. There are some parts of my country where they have 'fattening rooms' that young women go to get a little bit fat before getting married. There's a funny kind of respect for women (mothers/wives especially) who are fat (not obese fat) because people assume they are properly taken care of by their husbands. Ladies generally prefer to put on a little weight to get their curves out so they can fit well into clothes. But then again, some people are getting influenced by the western culture already saying it's unhealthy to be fat blah blah blah. After seeing the drastic change in EXO's Xiumin, I'm so against dieting for now.

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  155. Agreed. Most girls have their own charm and vice versa, which brings in natural chemistry (ahem, lack of better description XD) between people of both genders :)

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  156. Yes you have a point there.

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  157. exactly. my sister is very very thin but that's just the way she was made, people used to make fun of her and call her anorexic. like NO idiot that's just the way she was built. you can't blame someone for having a fast metabolism.


    also this mindset that "real women have curves" is stupid like no you are a women thats what makes you a real women. not how big your boobs or butt may be . people need to grow up and stop valuing women base on their body.

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  158. I felt so sad seeing Xiumin after the comeback. At first I thought he looked better, but then I realised that it just wasn't so. It just made me... sad. And after what Lay said on the Naver Starcast, it just broke my heart.

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  159. you give fans too much credit lol

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  160. I'm a girl and I like Sooyoung's body. It's the kind of body type that looks good in the type of clothes I like but can't wear because I'm curvier/shorter than her. For example, straight legged jeans (not skinny, I look good in that) look funny on me because i just look lumpy and shapeless but on someone like her it looks completely effortless. Or something like a spaghetti strap top, or halter, or a tank...it requires that I wear a bra and even then I still look like I'm spilling out, sigh.

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  161. He should be dragged away from his house and redo his mandatory service for 3 years rather than 2. And preferably be put into a hardcore unit like the Baekgol Division.

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  162. As a daily gym-goer myself, doing lots of situps every day should make it possible.

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  163. The worst thing is xiumin wasnt fat as knetz said.. Now he's scary skinny also sehun.. When i saw them i was shocked!

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  164. People sometimes won't be able to choose their body type even if they try or want to. This is one perfect example of media and men trying to standardize what is "perfect body" or "ideal body". This is crap. Girls should love themselves of what they are instead of comparing themselves against what is "preferred" by men or media. And SNSD did mentioned before that no matter how much Sooyoung eats, she can't get fat. I am like that too, I eat more than average girls and sometimes guys, and I can't go beyond 48kg, and I'm 165cm. So people should stop saying things like "women and men do not like Sooyoung's body because she's too thin." Stop that, everyone is perfect as they are not because they are or are not according to your "taste".

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  165. That would be ideal. He doesn't know how lucky he was that all of the people he messed with are too powerless or too forgiving to make him pay. What I hate most is that he still has a job, while the people he hurt have suffered terribly. I mean, how can he brazenly talk about Junjin when he contributed to Jin's thoughts of suicide and made him want to quit the entertainment industry just to get away from it all? People like Boom have no decency.

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  166. Sorry this is so offtopic but every time i see you on here this is all i can think about

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  167. That was so rude, calling people "poor" based on their body type. Who cares if Sooyoung doesn't have curves? She's still pretty and happy.

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  168. Not defending him, but to actually quote him, he said "guys like girls whose bodies look healthy/fit." I prefer to think he was saying women don't have to starve themselves (dieting too much) because they think men like that, but make from that what you will. He could also be dissing skinny women, since I didn't watch the episode. It just seems unfair to me that the comments here are assuming he was dissing Sooyoung.


    Fact is, he knows SNSD's diet and how they have to starve to keep their weights down during promotions. They're also not the average weight or proportions that you'd see every day in women, but girls have this mentality that if they're not under 50kg like Sooyoung, they're ugly.


    If you want to look at it positively, he could be encouraging people to be "healthy" in whatever way suits them, and if you want to look at it negatively, he could be dissing thin people. It's really all about perspective and bias. That's just my two cents.

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  169. Preach! High five, sis! Also, side eyeing all the body shaming of Sooyoung's thin body. Girl must feel really bad about those stupid comments. And either way she looks gorgeous with her body type.

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  170. at first i thought she is the oldest member in snsd lol she is so mature.

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  171. Im skinny and underweight and gaining weight for US is as hard as naturally fat girl losing weight
    I've been told to eat to gain weight, and i was like "I eat 5times a day dude"
    It hurts, reading knetz comments above, really ;_;

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  172. How did you gain weight? Master, teach me pleaseee

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  173. …and Sooyoung just basically got shot by all these comments while she literally never did or say anything about this.


    Not that I am a fan or anything, but just as a passer by, isn't it kinda… Mean to just… Bring her into such a non-friendly-topic conversation in a not-very-friendly way…?

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  174. Urghh I hate it when someone thinks its okay to pick on really skinny ppl. It's not their fault that they have high metabolism and as a fan of Sooyoung I know she eats a lot, I mean she isn't called a shiksin for no reason.

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  175. I thought she was talking about American Agencies..

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  176. Can you name me some of the companies that actually HAVE called him?

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  177. My thoughts exactly..........but again it's Heechul so the most innocent things he says are going to be taken negatively by netizens (kentz & inetz alike)

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  178. Heechul ranks high at my douche list now ...can't he just keep his mouth shut and how the knetizens are body shaming sooyoung its disgusting

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  179. If heechul is the one who mention sooyoung. so he was dropping sooyoung .... heechul should take care his mouth

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  180. what snsd hate their own song i.e IGAB where did you get that???

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  181. THIS! You preach, sister!

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  182. Does he lack sense or what can't he talk any thing without shaming snsd and his own label,,,,it sounds plain stupid,insensitive and douchy ...Is he pressed of snsd or what.

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  183. we should have a series called, "Heechul Says"

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  184. Haha, I've been a kpop fan for three years and in my conclusion, fangirls and realistic didn't belong to the same sentence. Realistic fangirls are the minority here:)

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  185. I agree, a lot of people are saying his new material is boring and here I am fangirling cause I love it more then anything else he has come out with!

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  186. I'm glad you think the same! I feel bad for him.


    I think a lot of the things Super Junior members say get taken out of context and in the worst lights possible. They're all really nice, normal guys whose mistakes are made more obvious than your next door neighbor.

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  187. what about jay?

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  188. Maybe once women stop valuing man by their income, then men cn stop looking at appearance.
    Did you notice how rich men almost always happen to have a younger very beautiful girlfriend?
    All there pretty girls who demant a wealthy man deserve to be valuated on their appearance, since their personality is ugly.

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  189. So, when will men realize that nobody gives a fuck about their opinion?

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