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Thursday, August 22, 2013

Netizens divided over picture of CL smoking hookah


Article: Netizens divided over picture of 2NE1's CL smoking hookah

Source: TV Daily via Nate

1. [+1,629, -217] Tryhard

2. [+1,505, -175] Tryhard ㅋ But a lot of female idols aside from CL also smoke a lot

3. [+1,240, -99] Mm.. But she's still an idol... and I'm CL's fan but I'm honestly speechless.. She didn't have to upload this picture but she did and now she's getting hate for it.. It's a blurry situation where she's not right or wrong, but considering the fact that she's an idol, it's definitely wrong. Idols need to think twice before uploading things on SNS... So many fans are watching!!!

4. [+131, -37] Why did she do this when she fully knows she'll get hate for it? It doesn't matter if you're a female or male, an idol uploading a picture like this will obviously bring controversy. Tone it down, at least for the kids who still like you.

5. [+119, -24] Imagine if this was Sulli or Hyuna

6. [+112, -38] Nothing good ever comes out of tryharding... It's a surefire way to end your career in one moment ㅋㅋㅋ

7. [+99, -71] Hookah uses a lot of herbs and fruits so I don't know why she's getting hate for smoking it. Yeah, uploading the picture's wrong but hookah itself isn't that bad ㅋㅋ There are a lot of hookah cafes in Korea anyway

8. [+78, -57] She's not really smoking ㅎㅎ Hookah has no addiction or nicotine, right?

9. [+71, -23] Ah...... I like CL..... but why upload pictures like this ㅠㅠ Why... just don't do it ㅠㅠㅠㅠ

10. [+70, -25] She seems desperate to end her career. It's not the smoking that's the problem but a female idol uploading a picture of herself smoking? Exactly what is she trying to imply?

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685 comments:

  1. can't help but agree. tryhard.

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  2. That picture is so random that everybody will forget it in less than a day..
    Next "scandal" please, I'm bored~

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  3. I know i'm a CL stan and i will love her no matter what , but this is just hookah

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  4. Lol its not like she doing drug or something illegal...

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  5. Lol at these 12 year olds who know nothing about hookah.

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  6. who cares lol. She do what she wants but it wasn't a good idea to upload this pic. She knows netizens are stupid and will overreact

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  7. I like her glasses.

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  8. i think she knows what will happen, but why?

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  9. Hrm, understandable that she's getting hate for it since she IS an idol after all and we all know how idols have to take care of their image.

    Regardless of whether or not hookah is harmless (which I know it is), she should still take caution for posting pictures like this.

    It'll pass over the next day. Not even something that should be considered a scandal.

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  10. [+99, -71] Hookah uses a lot of herbs and fruits so I don't know why
    she's getting hate for smoking it. Yeah, uploading the picture's wrong
    but hookah itself isn't that bad ㅋㅋ There are a lot of hookah cafes in
    Korea anyway


    In my country we go to a hookah lounge instead of cafe's. It's really no big deal here either. It's something you do occasionally

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  11. all those recent failures are taking a toll o her

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  12. lol such a positive comment) i whant this glasses but they are to expensive

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  13. 5. [+119, -24] Imagine if this was Sulli or Hyuna

    lmao exactly

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  14. cl is like "hello i smoke please notice me"

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  15. Why does people keep saying she's a tryhard? O__o

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  16. Hookah is worst for your health than cigarettes, they're not good CL

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hookah/AN01265

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  17. i dont care if she smokes or not, but shes and idol. if she smokes, dont need to upload a picture, she's just trying to get attention

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  18. Let me get one thing straight though idols are allowed to go on shows and rave on about their drinking habits and how drunk they get and that's okay regardless of the harm alchole does to you and the amount of people it has killed but smoking/hookah is a complete no no....I don't agree with her uploading the pic but in the end it's her insta and i'm sure she knew she would get hate

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  19. 5. [+119, -24] Imagine if this was Sulli or Hyuna

    i feel bad for them(

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  20. It's her body and she's fully responsible for it. If she wants to smoke then smoke and if she wants to drink well then go right ahead. Just dont be stupid and upload this when you know how people will react.

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  21. What's so tryhard about someone posting a pic with sheesha?? lol it's sheesha

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  22. Awh, i prefer her with long hair! Still cool tho

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  23. as much as i love her. I didn't expect such a damn thing from smart women like her. I had no problem with her smoking but i think she knows better than to upload this on sns. I think she knows enough people around her who's reputation tarnish because of stupid things than this. hope she learn her lesson and didnt think it is cool thing to upload pictures like this

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  24. "You try to be cool but look like a fool..." - Avril Lavigne

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  25. Isn't alcohol consumption more addictive than hooka? But yet so many articles about which member drink the most. Just because drinking is part of the culture, it doesn't make it less dangerous~

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  26. Wait... so is "Tryhard" a literal translation from the Korean? Just curious.

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  27. 8. [+78, -57] She's not really smoking ㅎㅎ Hookah has no addiction or nicotine, right?

    I don't know netizen Hookah or Shisha is smoke going in your lungs. Its not always herbs it is also mixed with tobacco and from what I know the base is always a form of alcohol.

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  28. im waiting for minzy article

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  29. do you know what brand they are?

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  30. Hookah is Shisha, right? i don't see anything wrong with it though.

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  31. and her rings too

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  32. i dont really care if she smokes or not. the thing is her fans are watching. she's an idol. a role model to some. i know it's her fans choice if they want to copy her or what but still.

    even if it's just a hookah.

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  33. Um, CL gets just as much, if not, more hate. She not only gets hate from Knetizens, but also from I-netizens. While Hyuna doesn't get hate from I-netizens anymore (just look at the last article about her), everyone was supperting here. Whereas for CL, the supporting comments get downvoted real fast and most people hate on her.

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  34. [+71, -23] Ah...... I like CL..... but why upload pictures like this ㅠㅠ Why... just don't do it ㅠㅠㅠㅠ

    THIS ㅠㅠㅠㅠ

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  35. I heard that in lounges in Korea dont have any nicotine or tar in them so its pretty harmless..

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  36. I smoke shisha sometimes..does that make me a tryhard?

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  37. Once again, if this had been Oppa smoking = much less negativity.

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  38. I don't mind she smokes but I have a thing for people who takes pictures of them smoking & puffing out smoke. I don't know...it just irks me. Unless it was a picture of the smoke making an 'O' shape then okay I'll admit it's cool but nonetheless, taking pictures of you smoking doesn't make you cool.


    "She's a grown ass woman & she can do anything she wants" but working in a field where the general public have the power to bring you up & stomp you like ants...she should be more careful & foresee what people would think. Although I'm all for "I don't care what people going to say I'm gonna do what I want to do", she's a public figure & is scrutinized by the public.

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  39. Hookah smoking is not safer than cigarette smoking.

    Also known as narghile, shisha and goza, a hookah is a water pipe with a
    smoke chamber, a bowl, a pipe and a hose. Specially made tobacco is
    heated, and the smoke passes through water and is then drawn through a
    rubber hose to a mouthpiece.

    The tobacco is no less toxic in a hookah pipe, and the water in the
    hookah does not filter out the toxic ingredients in the tobacco smoke.
    Hookah smokers may actually inhale more tobacco smoke than cigarette
    smokers do because of the large volume of smoke they inhale in one
    smoking session, which can last as long as 60 minutes.

    While research about hookah smoking is still emerging, evidence shows that it poses many dangers:

    Hookah smoke contains high levels of toxic compounds, including tar,
    carbon monoxide, heavy metals and cancer-causing chemicals
    (carcinogens). In fact, hookah smokers are exposed to more carbon
    monoxide and smoke than are cigarette smokers.

    As with cigarette smoking, hookah smoking is linked to lung and oral cancers, heart disease, and other serious illnesses.

    Hookah smoking delivers about the same amount of nicotine as cigarette smoking, possibly leading to tobacco dependence.

    Hookah smoke poses dangers associated with secondhand smoke.

    Hookah smoking by pregnant women can result in low birth weight babies.

    Hookah pipes used in hookah bars and cafes may not be cleaned properly, risking the spread of infectious diseases.

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  40. Owh btw this hookah thingie just became illegal in my country recently cos of it is dangerous..way more harmful than cig..not sure if the one in korea have the same substance like in my country....but as long as its not illegal so she is at her own risk....

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  41. cl needs to stop wearing shades indoors, especially if its already dimly lit

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  42. EVERYTHING she does is tryhard for you guys. Even is it's just being herself.

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  43. what did minzy do ? pls god not maknae. let this pass first.

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  44. I really like them too but they won't suit my face :(

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  45. "2. [+1,505, -175] Tryhard ㅋ But a lot of female idols aside from CL also smoke a lot"
    wow , really ??


    and as her fan , i admit she making a big mistake by uploading this photo . many people said that , let her be , that's her life . but , why she uploaded it when she know thousands of people following her ? she should keep it herself . she's like affecting her own career apart .

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  46. [+1,629, -217] Tryhard
    Pretty much this.

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  47. John Lennon glasses is love :">

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  48. I don't think that makes you a try hard though. I smoke too. but I don't upload pictures of them. haha.

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  49. No, because you also have the ones WITHOUT tobacco.

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  50. Her bracelet is nice too

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  51. 5. [+119, -24] Imagine if this was Sulli or Hyuna


    Change it into EXO member and we will see the clear result anyway!

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  52. The word 'tryhard' is annoying. I wish people would stop using it.

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  53. amaya aguero monzonAugust 22, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    I kinda have the feeling that CL doesn´t give a crap about her korean fans !! This kind of pic it's often seen in rihanna's instagram which we the i-fans are most used to seeing ! So it's only my opinion but l think she is copying american artist. So for me she it's not a tryhard but she only don't give a crap and it's trying to appeal more the i-fans

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  54. lol. nothing act. its about her passing exam.

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  55. The ones in Korea do not contain nicotine or tar...And it does not contain alcohol it has flavoring that you choose

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  56. [+1,240, -99] Mm.. But she's still an idol... and I'm CL's fan but I'm honestly speechless.. She didn't have to upload this picture but she did and now she's getting hate for it.. It's a blurry situation where she's not right or wrong, but considering the fact that she's an idol, it's definitely wrong. Idols need to think twice before uploading things on SNS... So many fans are watching!!!

    I would just change the last part to "so many haters/netizens are watching". The only problem fans might have here is the hate that their idol will get.

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  57. and her Chanel clutch

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  58. Idk about I-netz , but Russian fans were laughing at her (Hyuna) , but they hate CL too . Everyone is just hating on CL.

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  59. Ikr. I mean its her image and people love her in that way. Even people say rihanna, gaga, katy perry are all tryhards as well. Like, how exactly can you know they're a tryhard?

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  60. yes . that's the word that knetz always said when someone was different than the others

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  61. In Korea there's no tobacco or nicotine in Hookah, just herbs and fruits.

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  62. so much hypocrisy buzzing around...

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  63. lol, i post video of me smoking but no one really cares. CL is a public figure so i understand the hate but why tryhard?

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  64. Well, if it is in my countries, we got hookah everywhere and it is not a big deal. I have tried before, all you can taste are the flavor and the water vapor, which can be quite addictive.


    But, as the k-netz said, she is an idol, a public figure, so that's where the issues come from, it is understandable. Different countries, different cultures.


    And, as her fan since debut and seeing her irl for so many times, i can say that she is not a tryhard, she just won't give a sh*t what others are saying. That is just her. But i hope she will learn something from this issue.

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  65. let's be honesty. 2NE1's comeback should be consider semi flop when you look at the charts and the amount of wins they got. everyone knows that their popularity has diminished in Korea.


    I think what she doing here is more a media play to self promote her group.

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  66. Maybe Korea should just stop making out idols to be perfect humans they do stupid things just like anyone else...When i was younger in my highschool days i used to upload pics of myself doing hookah i mean we all do things like that there is nothing wrong with it i understand she is a public figure but at the same time she is also a normal human

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  67. CL being an idol obviously knows what can and can't get her into trouble, so it's not like she uploaded this picture without knowing she would start controversy with this. It's clear that this is just a middle finger to the netizens that make a big deal out of everything and I fully support her for it

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  68. is it a YG thing? cause everything YG related is 'tryhard' to the general public.

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  69. I smoke hookah & I like it but I've never uploaded a picture of me doing it cos there was a time in high school, even now, where every other person would upload a picture trying to look cool. It was so annoying seeing everyone doing it & so try hard that that is the only thing I can think about with CL....

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  70. Lol so what if she is a public figure? She is still a human like us. Also,she doesnt live her life to please you 24 hours...

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  71. In my country we have a whole street dedicated to hookah cafes

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  72. Isn't the stereotype that most people in Korea smoke like chimneys? So lol, why would they care if she smokes too, just cause she is a ~celeb~ or whatever. I assume most of those people must be ignorant and think hookah is more serious than it is.

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  73. i want her to teach how not to give a fuck lol

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  74. I could give two flips what's she does in her personal life and time. Plus she is grown! the issue is that she's and idol and keader of a group that claims to want to be a good influence of the younger generation. She should have not uploaded this pic. It's just like Gd. Everyone knows he's smokes and occasionally he might get caught but for the most part he does try to hide it and keep it out of the cameras. It's just a responsibility that comes with your status. Not hating her or anything many people do hookah. It is a fun social thing to do. She should have just used more discretion.

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  75. I don't think CL gives a damn whether she gets hate or not. If she did, she would have gotten plastic surgery on her whole face based on how much these people hate her for it.

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  76. esp. when it comes to GD .

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  77. Like if you're gonna call someone that at least say what they are trying so hard to be.

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  78. i think CL is like "I don't give a damn about my bad reputation"

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  79. oppa smoking = omo omo so handsome/cool !

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  80. i find the people who are shocked funny. my background is middle eastern and doing shisha is extremely normal. it's kind of like eating chocolate? i know many mothers who allow their 16 year old daughters to do it. i guess that's a cultural difference though. shisha is not addictive, it's just something we do with friends.

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  81. Why does smoking hookah make you a tryhard.

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  82. basically this! i know some very anti-smoking people who occasionally smoke this so... seems like some K-netz just think celebrities ain't even allowed to have any fun in their lives

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  83. tbh everything any yg idol does is always seems to be considered ''try hard'' even just being themselves

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  84. 'hookah'?!?!?!? what the hell?!? sheesha anyone??

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  85. really I liked them because they were round...lol

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  86. I just seriously don't understand how smoking a hookah means your a tryhard. GD and Dae Sung did the same thing. NO flack over it.

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  87. They still have 2 more comebacks.

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  88. now you've got it the only fun they are allowed to have is to keep smiling while a bunch of screaming people shove cameras in their faces and claw them to pieces...lol

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  89. loool i like this type of glasses

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  90. CL hangs with people whom are several smokers and goes to parties.
    I bet hookah is the healthier thing she does.

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  91. That is literally the only problem I have with this photo. :)

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  92. "Let them haters sit and stare" LOL

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  93. i think male idols are a bit the same though... i did remember at one point kikwang got some negative reaction when an unclear pic of him was taken smoking but cube just said that they can't confirm if it indeed was kikwang though but if it was they said "We fail to see the issue."

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  94. I don't care that she smokes, she is an adult and free to choose. But why post the photo? She knew very well how people would react.

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  95. i hope so. this comeback didn't do it for me. i hope their next 2 will be more like the 2NE1 of the pass :(

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  96. hyunsikturtles ♔August 22, 2013 at 1:56 PM

    5. [+119, -24] Imagine if this was Sulli or Hyuna


    Lol this, Hyuna got hated on more than CL for posting a picture on a bed..

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  97. She's indirectly but loudly saying this: "Korea, don't put us, idols, on a pedestal. At least not me because I'll do what I do regardless of what you think. And if you think this is setting the wrong example to kids, try looking at your Plastic Surgery culture which emphasizes all the wrong values to the youth worse than this picture of mine."

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  98. So going to parties is unhealthy?

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  99. 10. [+70, -25] Exactly what is she trying to imply?
    That she smokes hookah. There really isn't significance in everything.

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  100. How the hell is this media play? Media play would be the company spending money for having reporters writing GOOD articles about the group. This isn't promoting 2NE1 whatsoever.

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  101. Now smoking a hookah makes people tryhard? Lol seriously? Knetizens sometimes smh -.-

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  102. In some places they put loads of harmful crap in it so maybe she should be aware of her international fans? However, If it isn't dangerous in Korea then I don't understand why some Knetz are getting all worked up about it :S

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  103. even taking a pose at a bar... LOL
    only to find out it was for a photoshoot...

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  104. ikr? it's like people at parties do drugs or smtg.

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  105. Maybe (a big MAYBE) they don't really know what Hookah is. Or, basically, everything related to idols are such big deals to them.

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  106. oh yea, that. but I do concur that male celebrities smoking wont get as much negativity compared to female celebrities. It's a wonder why, probably the perception of "girls shouldn't smoke" or something along those lines.

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  107. In my country drugs are legal.

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  108. creating a controversies is a way that ppl are known to do to get their name out in kpop world

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  109. I don't care that she smokes, she is an adult and free to choose. But why post the photo? She knew very well how people would react..

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  110. Well in the end both are bad. People seem to think that hookah is alright with no health effects but it's actually as bad as smoking (without the nicotine). And even if there is no chemical for an addictive effect it can still be addictive.

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  111. I understand some of their concerns, but CL is a grown ass woman and can do whatever she wants. Whether she's a tryhard or whatever, it's her life and shouldn't be bashed for something like this.

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  112. Seungri is a tryhard


    CL is not a tryhard

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  113. "2. [+1,505, -175] Tryhard ㅋ But a lot of female idols aside from CL also smoke a lot"


    am i the only one so curious who are the female idols that smoke ?

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  114. Cos its her instagram and she don't give a shit?

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  115. The comments use 허세 (虛勢) literally an empty show of force.

    개허세 is just adding "dog" in front, which is just to strengthen the curse (e.g., 개새끼)

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  116. i think i know what are you trying to say , but maybe some people will misunderstand this :)

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  117. i get it that it's her life and she can do what she wants but in her situation, being an idol makes her a role model for some people especially young kids and teens, they might try to be like her thinking it's cool, i mean my dad smokes and i remember when i was younger me and my brother tried it too once thinking it was cool, you might not try it but there some younger kids who might think if she thinks it's okay then it's okay for them too....she can smoke it s much as she wants but i dont think it was necessary to upload the picture..
    one a side note it's also bad for her voice but it could've been just a one time thing

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  118. There are plenty of hookah cafes in Korea, so I'm pretty sure they know what hookahs are.


    People in general don't know that a hookah =/= marijuana. That's the same as labeling Middle Easterns = terriorists and that's not true.

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  119. man. Hookah is something so baby compared to drinking. Koreans need to get their facts together. You have such a competitive education system, but you're not even teaching, or helping people learn.

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  120. all hookah smoking including smoking non tobacco flavors involves burning the charcoal and that itself is the harmful part of smoking hookah. the tobacco only adds nicotine.

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  121. isn't it nicotine is the one giving addictive effect on cigs?

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  122. I'm betting the comments would be so much different if it was a male idol

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  123. I think there are lots... but we have to wait and see who'll upload the next photo of them smoking...

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  124. CL's image is different, she doesn't have an innocent image like Sulli. And CL got shit for a picture of her wearing a swimsuit in a pool so idk what you're trying to imply.

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  125. i like her nail . not too long like always . and the color so pretty

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  126. Hookah's in Korea do not have nicotine or Tar it's usually just flavored water vapor

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  127. hyunsikturtles ♔August 22, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    I'm just trying to say that the amount of hate and criticism you get depends on who you are.

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  128. Not really. I remember Onew got in trouble for smoking an electronic cigarette. Especially Yoochun considering he has asthma.

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  129. I swear, there are so many girl groups acting cute at the age of xx,
    to the point that it's become awkward to watch and she is just being her
    normal self and that makes her a tryhard.

    A
    quote from Kim Gura on CL: "When talking to you, it feels like you're a
    veteran singer. Whenever we ask a question you don't focus on
    entertaining. rookies usually flop when they're not entertainging, but you don't."
    It might seem irrelevent, but it shows that even when camera's are rolling, she is just being herself. She isn't trying hard (to get reactions) like people claim.

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  130. I understand your concern but I don't think those bars are accessible to underage kids.

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  131. but she is a celebrity who is more an idol. from the time she made ​​the choice she knew what to expect. thousands of young people take to the model, she can't afford to post this kind of pictures that's all.

    she smokes who cares? As we don't see it's okay.

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  132. CL is lke Gdragon, they don't care if other people know they smoke, do drugs, etc..

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  133. Sorry but you really have to know how hookah work.. the base always contains alcohol, the flavourings could be without tobacco or with depends on what you want.

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  134. A few months ago gd(I think?) uploaded a pic of him, T.O.P and Daesung doing the same thing and no one cared....I really wonder why.

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  135. i don't think that will upload it anyway . LOL

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  136. Does that mean we are try hards too? :(

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  137. perhaps she wants to shed the role model for children image and appear to be more adult...you see young people act out in these ways even famous young people...need I give examples...I'm sure she knows how bad it is for her...

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  138. 10. [+70, -25] She seems desperate to end her career. It's not the smoking that's the problem but a female idol uploading a picture of herself smoking? Exactly what is she trying to imply?

    the best always in the last row

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  139. yeah but that doesn't mean it's good..

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  140. i'm not just talking about hooka, but smoking in general, they're kinda the same

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  141. cultural difference I guess?

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  142. Exactly. Like i hve to compare, Dara focuses way too much on wanting people to laugh at her jokes. But CL just don't really care about that, she just say what she has to, answers the question and speaks carefully.

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  143. in my country when guy smoking people usually don't care , but when it was a women , people care a lot . and i think that's the same situation . maybe , i'm not sure tho

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  144. Lol The only way we'll know is if they get caught

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  145. I think I follow hell lot of weird people who see everything oppa do as cool. damn.

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  146. Nah. To people on NB and Knets, you're ONLY a tryhard when you're from YG.

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  147. It's worse that she uploaded it herself. At least with other celebrities, photos of them smoking are published by journalists.

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  148. People should calm their tits really. It's just water with flavor. I don't think she smoke this with cigarette cuz she's singer so she must care about her voice. And hooka is good for health if u use her right. I hate comments like: female shouldn't do this... Why why always girls must be bad and boys who do it are cool? Gosh.. crazy.

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  149. thanks. now i can google and stare at them.lol

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  150. now that you mention it, I guess that's the difference between other smoking-related controversies and this...

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  151. I think you mean GD. Seungri actually acts like himself as an idol

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  152. Yeah sometimes she seems like she's trying hard, but I don't understand why, her cheerfuly self is so funny, without trying. I think she can be funny, as long as she is being herself (just look at 2ne1tv). I'm still glad that she trying her best (no, not trying HARD people, her best)

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  153. it could be. Some see it as no biggie but others would throw a fit about it.

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  154. inb4 unnie is an adult already and have a free to choose.

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  155. If you are already a smoker hookah is even worse that the usual cigarette.

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  156. Cuz she is a "female idol"

    Hmmm i c

    When did cl do what everyone expect her to do ...

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  157. Justin Bieber whipped out his noodle and peed in a bucket...he hocked luggies on his fans...maybe she should step up her game if she's that determined to tank her career...lol

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  158. I think Dara do this cuz she's more shy. All 2ne1 members say she always more quiet cuz she's scared that people might think she;s weird or smt. She need just be more ok with herself:) CL feel confident so she just don't care.

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  159. wait , smoking hookah was consider "smoking" too ? in my country , people smoking hookah are everywhere in restaurant or cafe . its like the activity when you meet your friends there .

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  160. why should she be bound by what netizen's deem right? be free and post what ever you want (within reason)

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  161. CL looks so gangsta :) I love her image.

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  162. yeah i remember when I was 7, I would see my uncle smoke a lot. One time, there was a black out in the neighborhood and i was alone but there was this lighted cig left by my uncle, I tried to imitate him and ended coughing. I swear at that point I never understand how people can get addicted to it. LOL

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  163. I'm from the middle east i have grown up with a generation who run and own sheesha parlors trust me i know how it works it does not contain alcohol

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  164. At this point, I really think she's at the point where she is just sick of the damn hate comments and that she knows that they wouldn't stop either way, so why the fuck should she stop?


    I know that even if this was a positive article netizens would go "That ugly whore". Either way, it would be the same.


    CL, just live the way you want. You are a grown up, you know what's right and what's wrong for you. But be healthy. That's what I'll say.

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  165. uhh yes ;/ she have small face so she looks ok but i look like ozzy . Even once i wearing them and scream: Sharon!! :D Bad idea :D

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  166. i wonder if g-druggin has taught her how to smoke weed with a hookah

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  167. u sound like a try hard too you know. just because u don't like what other people did u think u r so different and better than them by not doing it.


    what's the matter if people upload a photo doing hookah? it's just a pose. it is u the one who assume they're trying to look cool while they're just having some fun.lol. don't try so hard to be cool by not doing what most people do. hypocrite like u are the most annoying thing ever.

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  168. I don't get these comments though. If you look at her past articles and their past articles, the comments in hers are much worse.. Sure, it's usually people taking jabs at her face but they're much worse imo.

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  169. Considering that the photo is still up on her instagram I'm sure we can all conclude that she really doesnt care about netizen opinions Korean or International.

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  170. good for health if using it right ? is there a real way to used that ? really , i've never heard about it . no offense but can you explain it ? because a lot of my friends are smoking hookah too

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  171. Ok sure, I'll use TH then instead of tryhard.

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  172. i haaate everything related to smoking even if ts hookah but i wonder if female. idols cant smoke?? wth?.. is it something similar to the no dating thing or is it about k.women in general?

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  173. can people stop with this fetishization of "gangstas". put cl or any of these yg kids in a real ghetto and see how quickly they'd get shred

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  174. cuz it's the only whing we can do :D

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  175. but gd (or was it yb I don't remember) posted a pic of tabi, dae and gd in a hookah bar and no one cared. Double standard.

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  176. now that would be something fun talk about...

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  177. true. I must say is not only about CL . About Dara they say she can't sing, Bom: plastic monstar, Minzy: ugly. Even SNSD who are this nation group they still get some weird hate. People love bash idols cuz they can.

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  178. hyunsikturtles ♔August 22, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    Are you seriously comparing CL articles to Hyuna articles?

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  179. where I live, it's a big issue, I guess. My mom wouldn't want me to hang around people who smoke but i guess that would be because of 2nd hand smoke or something.
    Well, I never tried hookah so I don't know much about it.

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  180. better be a try hard rather than a loser. just saying.

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  181. i don't know but i think thats better tho .

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  182. Trust me, they are not the same thing. Smoking guarantees the intake of nicotine. Hookas can just be flavored vapors if you so please order. Coffee several times a day can have greater impact to your health than that.

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  183. [+131, -37] Why did she do this when she fully knows she'll get hate for it? It doesn't matter if you're a female or male, an idol uploading a picture like this will obviously bring controversy.



    well, because she knows this will get people's attention! lol that's it!
    desperate to end her career? no, of course not. more like desperate to be talk about and prove she's a badass.

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  184. Okay, but media play is typically paid BY the companies. That's why people give JYPE a lot of flack for media playing Suzy's acting or Dream Tea Entertainment for media playing how Hye Ri's relationship with Tony An is a GOOD thing.

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  185. Naaah. We're Japanese.

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  186. my doctor tell me to "smoke" this when i have problems with breath. I was have special flavor to stabilized my throat. Now i don't use this cuz thanks from2 weeks i was getting better. So i can say this help me to not die in sleep :)

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  187. Waiting for YG's media play.

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  188. Most YG stans know what the meaning of "ghetto" and "gangstas" is, it's the haters that are trolling like this. I mean, have you never seen "why are yg artists acting so ghetto???"...yeah, it's the haters. We never claimed that their image is gangsta or whatever.

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  189. if it was on netizens terms, they'd tell her not to upload pictures at all! she's doing nothing wrong. in fact, MORE idols should show that they do NORMAL, everyday citizen things too. they are human.

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  190. CL made an instagram is a miracle for us fans. We always wanna know what she do and who she hangs with. I don't hve a problem of her posting this cos i wanna see more of her that i don't know which i love. People can get inspired by her confidence but if she smokes, people would know its wrong, so why should they follow that part of her? At the end of the day its your decision.

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  191. As the example you gave is gaesaekki .. Can you please give me the exact definition for Saekki, cuz whenever I watch a korean movie, I hear this word a lot but the translation of it differs.

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