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Saturday, July 27, 2013

Viral video of foreign men sexually harassing Korean woman staged?


Article: WP... viral video of foreigners sexually harassing Korean woman is staged

Source: Newsis via Nate

1. [+886, -48] Either way, this only means one thing and it's that foreigners think of our country as sh*t and our women as even greater sh*t

2. [+861, -61] I don't believe for a second that it was staged. How lowly did the damn Americans have to view Korean women that they would stage something like this? Don't think Koreans are stupid enough to believe that this is all fake just so you can get a free pass. And to that girl in the video, please stop embarrassing Korea.

3. [+717, -500] comment omitted

4. [+32, -5] Staged? I guess the fact that someone was even willing to be sexually harassed for a hundred bucks says it all.

5. [+31, -10] I wonder how easy foreign men think of Korean women

6. [+23, -7] I guess there's a reason foreign countries view our country as easy

7. [+21, -6] I see this as nothing other than what Korean women have brought upon themselves with the image they've been creating

8. [+18, -2] I really don't feel any sympathy for the woman nor any rage or anger towards the men

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211 comments:

  1. if it was staged, i'd be really disappointed

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  2. I want to see that omitted comment

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  3. "7. [+21, -6] I see this as nothing other than what Korean women have
    brought upon themselves with the image they've been creating"


    Here we go again. Let's put ALL the blame on women.

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  4. It's probably some senseless comment saying that women deserve it.

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  5. why would someone stage something like that though? either way the video was horrible

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  6. I watched the video and I don;t think it's staged. They stuck their finger into her mouth...I doubt any actress would be okay with that.

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  7. 1. [+886, -48] Either way, this only means one thing and it's that foreigners think of our country as sh*t and our women as even greater sh*t

    2. [+861, -61] I don't believe for a second that it was staged. How lowly did the damn Americans have to view Korean women that they would stage something like this? Don't think Koreans are stupid enough to believe that this is all fake just so you can get a free pass. And to that girl in the video, please stop embarrassing Korea.

    7. [+21, -6] I see this as nothing other than what Korean women have brought upon themselves with the image they've been creating



    Of course, blame the women for everything. Assholes .____.

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  8. 7. [+21, -6] I see this as nothing other than what Korean women have brought upon themselves with the image they've been creating



    Congrats you're just as much of as an asshole as they are.

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  9. Staged or not, I'm sure it has happened to other Korean women. Just it's not caught on tape. It's still a serious issue regardless fake or not.

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  10. I'm kinda scared to know what it is since it has so many downvotes and NB didn't even want to post it but yeah, I'm curious too tbh...

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  11. Dominique (도미나크)July 27, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    Okay, first of all, I do not think it was staged
    And second, please stop putting all the blame on the woman! GEEZ!

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  12. It's a very long comment with a bunch of links to idk articles and things...

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  13. why would nb omitted then, it must a random one

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  14. It's just a bunch of links to some articles. It's long but I still want to know what it means

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  15. 2. [+861, -61] I don't believe for a second that it was staged. How
    lowly did the damn Americans have to view Korean women that they would
    stage something like this? Don't think Koreans are stupid enough to
    believe that this is all fake just so you can get a free pass. And to
    that girl in the video, please stop embarrassing Korea.



    LOL they're complaining that foreigners think of Korean women as shit but they obviously think of and treat their OWN women like shit. In terms of treating Korean women like shit I guess foreign men learned from the best, right Korean society?

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  16. just watched the video....da fuq is wrong with those guys?

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  17. who confirmed it as staged? did the supposed korean director come out publicly on this or is this still based on one random netizen who claims it was staged?

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  18. Well if it was staged (and I'm inclined to beleive it is) both the foriegners and the girl were the actors and the video was made by a korean a couple years ago who has tried to make other offensive videos and get them viral.

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  19. Exactly, even if the women is at fault here. No human deserved to be treated like that. If this was real, I wish the girl could take this issue to the media and the police. Spread this issue wide, so every women who actually got harassed by this disgusting people can take actions.

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  20. It's funny how they point out how easy they think Foreign men view Korean woman and no points out how (a lot of) Korean men view Foreign woman. It's really fucking disgusting, all the same. They think foreign woman are as easy as tying your shoes.

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  21. God damn it those comments make me so fucking angry. I hate people.

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  22. There are lots of expat men in Korea that are there to be "English teachers" but end up just trying to sleep with lots of women and act like idiots until their contract expires and they go home.

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  23. slut shaming, victim blaming...the list goes on

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  24. If anyone is ruining my image of Korea, it's the people commenting. Not the woman.

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  25. Like this?

    http://www.koreabang.com/2013/stories/korean-netizen-explains-how-to-make-japanese-penpals.html

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  26. Damn... Your username...

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  27. http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/07/25/controversial-video-of-western-men-harassing-a-korean-woman-appears-to-have-been-staged/

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  28. the only people who think Korean woman easy is the Korean people themselves. No one watching this is going to think the woman is easy. They just think the guys are a**hole... stage or not

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  29. It would be stupid if somebody staged something like that.

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  30. TL;DR
    So I have no clue.

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  31. I don't believe it was staged, but if it was then those assholes truly have no conscience to do that to another human being and purposely film & post it online

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  32. It's basically how to get a Japanese girlfriend (AKA Sushi Girl as they said) over the internet

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  33. Apparenly the woman was actually drunk, so if it was all staged how did she give consent?

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    I wonder what this comment say to get -500 and to get removed

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  35. And do what...? Since it's Ilbe and the post was made by some 13 year old who thinks he's hard I'm guessing these Sushi girls are easy? Or are willing to put out on the Internet for these Korean boys or what not?
    I've never heard of this so I'm not knowledgeable.

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  36. I was told I was sexy by a older man and he started to touch my legs where my jeans were ripped. I first decided to never wear anything that shows any skin again but then I was like FUCK THIS SHIT I'M FUCKING GONNA SLAP THE NEXT PERSON THAT MAKES ME FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE! Wanna know why? IT'S NOT MY FAULT. Just like it's not her fault.

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  37. The worst part is that some of those comment might be written by korean women smh

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  38. Who the fuck would stage something like that?!

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  39. You should have kicked that guy. I hate men that don't understand the concept of personal space.

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  40. I know the worst part is that I feel it's written about me. I'm really in a bad mood right now. I feel like crying.

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  41. This is one of those times Im desperately hoping that the "comments do not represent the majority opinion of do not represent the majority opinion of Koreans and should not be taken as an example of Korean sentiment on any of the topics presented"

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  42. Do Knetizens know about the current US verison of Big Brother? Like how the house is divided whites vs. The only three people who isn't.

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  43. I hope not...it's always twice as sad to see a woman write things like that.

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  44. play with this whale

    http://img0.liveinternet.ru/images/attach/c/5//3970/3970473_sprite198.swf

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  45. typical of knetizens being against the women, when the fault is of the foreign

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  46. I wish I did but I know if I was in the same situation again I would've probably be as paralyzed as I was that time.

    I'm saying this since no one knows who I'm actually am but I've been sexually harassed because of my curves. My first kiss... I'm actually traumatized and can never EVER trust any male ever again.



    BUT people should know this. It's not my fault. Just as much as it's not anyone else's fault for being sexually harassed.

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  47. It's a really emotional subject for me.Reading all these ignorant comments really hit me. Thank you btw xx

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  48. The women are the ones getting plastic surgery though, can't deny that.

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  49. You should have hit him. He was touching you without your consent, that's assault. You had all the right to defend yourself. And you are completely, absolutely right, it's not your fault that people can't control themselves. Sorry you had to go through that *hug*

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  50. OH MY GOD I AM SO ASHAMED.
    I've been on sites that covered this and the general consensus felt bad for the woman and didn't think it was staged.
    THE ACTUAL KOREANS, however, think the opposite. SMH.

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  51. actually it is stage.

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  52. IF it was true that this was staged, the blame shouldn't just be on the guys or just on the woman, it should be on everybody involved for even thinking that this was a good idea. It said the director did it to make a commentary on plastic surgery but he's hiding, along with the people in the video. So much for standing by his opinion.

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  53. Well, if it was staged then what was the footage suppose to be for o_0?

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  54. Just want to put this out there due to my own experiences living in Korea.
    High school teenagers to woman in their early-mid twenties typically have this crazy infatuation and made up Ideal of Foreign Caucasian males. This can also be applied to Korean men and how a lot will put down their own Korean woman when compared to a Foreign Caucasian woman. It's partly due to a mix of Korean and American media making our Celebrities out to be this that and the other. More plays into it of course but I'm not going into that.
    It's the same reason why a lot of Korean men think they can part a foreign womans legs like Moses did the red sea.

    Now in no way shape or form am I saying the woman in the video (if it's real, I have no idea, everyone is saying it's not so...) deserved to be treated like that or that it's her fault because that's just filthy and I certainly don't condone such behavior. But there's many reasons why those foreign men thought they could do what they did and get away with it. They most likely picked up on how Koreans (not all) view Caucasians, and how a lot of Korean woman have this fantasy-like image of Foreign males. They abused that and used it to their advantage.

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  55. Yes but I was really weak... which sucks 'cause I really wanted to hit that person not just him but all the other bastards that have done worse stuff to me. But everytime this happens I actually tell myself I deserve this. Which is wrong, I know it's not my fault but I'm young. I'm affected by these comments from all these people telling girls that show skin are sluts, whores, hoes etc. AT THAT MOMENT I actually thought "Girl it's your fault for showing legs".


    People have no idea how much I regret for not punching his face...

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  56. Men in South Korea also get plastic surgery, can't deny that ;)

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  57. i think it's a known thing white men and black men think asian women are easy. i think cl talked about it once... i could be wrong. i don't know where this idea came from but it's up to korean women to erase these ideas about themselves from the world. keyboard warriors writing the same shit over and over again isn't going to change anything about this. guess why sometimes i wish the hallyu wave would promote a better image of korean women but they always do the same shit.

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  58. omg that's really cute >_<

    Thank you xx

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  59. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/07/25/controversial-video-of-western-men-harassing-a-korean-woman-appears-to-have-been-staged/ Somebody that was supposedly involved in the making said it was for a commentary about plastic surgery, but they must not feel strongly about their opinions since they all ran off now that it's getting attention. /shake my head

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  60. Eh, I'm not sure if I should believe it is. One of the quotes in the article is in summary: "The actors/actress received money and we filmed it only for entertainment". That seems a bit... suspicious?

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  61. I don't get why women are called easy but men aren't...

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  62. How come they think Asian women are easy? Do they not think they are easy themselves?

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  63. Just saw the video, those men are vile, disgusting scum of the earth. That's the worst lie you can come up with about its staged for a film. Its not the lady's fault that this happened to her.We need to start educating boys and men to treat girls and women with respect. Every single women I know has experienced some form of harassment from a man, a friend of mine got chased down the street by a random guy oh her way to a friends house.

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  64. 1. [+886, -48] Either way, this only means one thing and it's that
    foreigners think of our country as sh*t and our women as even greater
    sh*t



    From what I've read of the article about this it says it was produced by a Korean guy it was suppose to be some controversial amateur film or something like that.

    So don't go categorizing all foreigners. Whether this video was staged or not its disturbing and disgusting,

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  65. ..............what?

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  66. I don't get it either but just look how many there are derogatory slurs against sexually active women and men:

    Women can be called sluts, slags, bitches, whores, skanks, cocksuckers, minxes, etc. Men can only be really called manwhores :P

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  67. the video is staged. there's a comment on here talking how it is indeed staged by a director to speak on plastic surgery in korea and he made stupid videos like this before.

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  68. Hmmm, well if I base this on stereotypes alone, then I'd say it's because Asian women seem to be the most submissive (next would be white women, and then Black and Hispanic women are the most dominant ones). Not saying this is actually legit, but I guess guys searching for an "easy" girl think they'd have better luck with an Asian one. Idk, but the prostitution in Asia also doesn't help either :/

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  69. 5. [+31, -10] I wonder how easy foreign men think of Korean women

    And i wonder how easy korean men think of forerign women.

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  70. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/07/25/controversial-video-of-western-men-harassing-a-korean-woman-appears-to-have-been-staged/

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  71. and make her dance 2ne1 I'm the best

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  72. I wonder how easy women think men are.

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  73. probably so. i have read a lot of awful comments on worldstar on how some men view asian women. it sucks but there's nothing being done to change that image, by either asian women or men.


    but tbh every race (men and women) has bad stereotypes not just korean women.

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  74. I'd say, at least in the US, I can't speak for the rest of the world, that generally Asian woman (and men) are stereotyped as mousey, quiet, brainy, shy, nerdy, weak, etc. And then there's the Asian American Girl stereotype that I'm not even going to get into. Anyways, that's probably where the 'easy' factor comes in for some men with Asian woman, because of that stereotype.
    When it comes to CL, for me at least...Yeah, it's cool that she wants to shed the Image of Asian woman and all but I recall (might be wrong) reading somewhere that she said changing the Stereotype for Asian woman is the reason why she is how she is.
    I personally don't agree with her 'method' if you will. Changing yourself purposefully just because you're aiming to be the opposite of what stereotypes make your race out to be isn't right. You don't have to listen to a genre of music, wear certain clothing, swear in a song or act thug to shed a image or make a point. But that's just me.

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  75. i agree with your comment about CL. no it's not right to become something you aren't but i guess we can give her credit for seeing there is a problem and trying to do her part to change it.

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  76. i just skimmed over it and it doesnt really show definitive proof. it seems more like the two guys are trying hard to cover their ass and we have to take their word for it.

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  77. Last week I read an american article that claimed that the incident indeed was staged and that the film was made as an experiment to test people's reaction...and that the director is a korean. Btw why do koreans think that other countries see them as easy?

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  78. I don't want to generalise but I don't think opportunists like the ones shown (or depicted) in the video are particular about country...

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  79. instead of telling girls to cover up why don't they teach guys not to act on bad intentions..

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  80. Yeah, I did more research and I found it. But the director was Korean, not a foreigner like the netizens think in the comments here.

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  81. I think rather "not THE woman" it should be "not woman"

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  82. really... i didn't know he was korean. that changes everything.

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  83. Dominique (도미나크)July 27, 2013 at 9:40 PM

    yep! I vouch for this as I live in Korea....

    they don't consider most foreign girls 'GIRLFRIEND' material....just one night stand material...which is kinda sad!

    But, not all are like that! It is always better to speak korean and to meet guys through a friend and meet at cafes and other open places, because I have heard of scary stories..

    But there are always exceptions to this (my WONDERFUL boyfriend of 2 years :) )

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  84. How are plastic surgery and sexual harassment even connected?

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  85. Korea should have a slut walk (or whatever it was called) Fuck them and there misogynistic comments.

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  86. Yep. Although the main intent probably would have been the same regardless of the race of the director, it's really stupid how the netizens are complaining about foreigners looking down on Koreans when the whole thing was ironically planned by a Korean.

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  87. Typical Americans, they all act like a crazy drunk animal whenever they visit Asian countries

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  88. As mom says all men are the same. Asians ,americans ,Arabs or Eurpeon they are all the same

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  89. I've seen it done and heard it many times in Korea so I vouch too. It's really a shame. I'm glad you're with a good man. Continue to have a wonderful loving honest relationship :)

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  90. Or studs. And most men would take either or both as a compliment. -_-

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  91. Dominique (도미나크)July 27, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    thank you! :)
    do you live in korea?

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  92. When I was walking down the street a man started following me from the
    opposite side of the side walk beating off in broad daylight while
    staring at me and moaning really loudly "Oh yeah baby"


    I carry mini pepper spray, a mini dagger and a tazer. I'll fuck a guy up trying to put unwanted moves on me.

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  93. When I was little I lived there, now I live in the US but I actually spend winter vacations, summer vacations, holidays and more in Korea. It's almost like half the time I'm in the US and the other Korea. Probably why my sleep is on another level. The worst.

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  94. Because a lot of foreign men specifically come to Asia looking for sex.

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  95. Dominique (도미나크)July 27, 2013 at 10:11 PM

    I know I fly a lot back and forth too....ughhh my times zones are all messed up! :)

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  96. OH BUT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THEIR CULTURE ETC


    But seriously Korean attitudes towards women are fucking archaic and nothing will ever convince me otherwise.

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  97. My time zones are crazy too, someone will ask me the time in the US and I'll for some crazy reason respond with the Korean time instead and vice verse :)

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  98. Yeah yeah, grow out of your "let's-blame-the-woman-attitude" and probably foreigners will start viewing your country in a better light rather than your misogynistic attitudes. -.-
    hopefully the website that translates NB comments will translate this page too. oh wait, we may all be Japanese by then...

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  99. the woman is not at fault here.

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  100. Touche, my friend.

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  101. Good for you to realize this.

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  102. these mysoginistic comments and their upvotes creep me out...

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  103. 3. [+717, -500] comment omitted



    Is anybody else curious to know what this netizen wrote before it got deleted...............

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  104. Seriously curious about what #3 said. Like 500 dislikes....


    Anyhow, I for one do not believe that it was staged. Even if it was staged, it's so degrading to do that to another person. Also, I don't get why the women are being blamed also. Those kind of misogynistic comments and their upvotes are sad.

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  105. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_South_Korea

    south korea has been ranked 27th in equality.
    and we have female president.
    also girls don't go to the army when they cry out for feminism.
    but swiss feminist cry out for conscription for girls because they wanted real equality.

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  106. shut up it's from ilbe.

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  107. what kind of english is that?

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  108. South Korea, the 15th most prosperous economy in the world, is among one of the most unequal countries for women globally.
    This is the result of the World Economic Forum’s 2012 Global Gender Gap Report that slots South Korea 108th among the 135 countries measured on the list. South Korea is tucked below such havens for gender inequality as Cambodia (103rd), India (105th), and the United Arab Emirates (107)

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  109. Roughly...the comment has links for these things.


    1. The court is more generous towards women for the same crimes.
    2. Men pay 8/10 of the marriage expenses.
    3. Why do only men have to serve as public service workers?
    4. Responses to North Korean threats: Men - reenlist, Women - flee
    5. Too many exclusive services only for females.
    6. If it is courteous for men not to walk behind women wearing skirts on stairs, wouldn't it be also courteous for women to wait for men to pass first? Only men are required to be courteous.
    7. Women can falsely accuse men of sexual assaults.
    8. Same old gender equality arguments.

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  110. No it wasn't removed. It was just too long for NB to translate.

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  111. It doesn't mean women in South Korea have less rights than women in Cambodia, India or the UAE in everyday sense. That index (108th) is from the World Economic Forum. The other index (27th) is from the UN Development Program. It depends on which criteria they put more weight on.

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  112. My reaction to this is the actual opposite
    Why would you, a foreign American men, add to this negative view about Americans?
    That's the first thing I thought of, not that Korean women are cheap

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  113. yeap and you believe that shit?
    do you think there's honor killing in korea?
    do you think korean men rape girls and just get away without punishment?
    also why not believe the result by un?
    plz don't be like a muslim exmtremist.

    http://moviejoy.com/public/e_view.asp?db=pubic&num=3100

    the head of menofkorea committed suicide.
    because of all the reverse discrimination he and men have received.
    do indian, arab men kill themselves because of discrimination?

    there are a lot places only for women.
    and it's funded by the gov.
    there are over 450+ women organization fully funded by the gov.
    so called Ministry of women's right
    they get 45000000 us$ every year.
    and they got caught with a lot of corruption.

    and the minister called soldiers dogs who protect their master. and her son didn't go to the army
    do you think something like this can happen in any country?
    all they do is restrict porn because otherwise men get inspired by it and rape women.

    there are no real feminists in korea.
    so called korean feminists think they deserve what european women have fought for without any duty

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  114. kpopwillneverstopJuly 27, 2013 at 11:44 PM

    First of all, the guys in the video aren't even American. They both had foreign accents.

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  115. kpopwillneverstopJuly 27, 2013 at 11:46 PM

    2. [+861, -61] I don't believe for a second that it was staged. How lowly did the damn Americans have to view Korean women that they would stage something like this? Don't think Koreans are stupid enough to believe that this is all fake just so you can get a free pass. And to that girl in the video, please stop embarrassing Korea.



    They're not even American. I live in the US and even though we have accents here as well, he doesn't have an accent that's from the US. I, for example, have a Southern accent since I live in the South.

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  116. Just another netizenJuly 27, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    Regardless whether staged or not...this video was disgusting.

    If it truly is staged, it was a stupid idea.

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  117. kpopwillneverstopJuly 27, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    They weren't even American. The guy in the video has a foreign English accent.

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  118. Just another netizenJuly 27, 2013 at 11:52 PM

    #6...dafaq really? o.o didn't know that was considered "courteous" (not walking behind a woman with a skirt)...o.o

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  119. kpopwillneverstopJuly 27, 2013 at 11:53 PM

    Like I said in my comment, they shouldn't have the nerve to criticize foreigners for viewing their women low when they view their own women low.

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  120. 3. [+717, -500] comment omitted
    wtf? 500 negatives??? now im curious

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  121. I will edit my comment then :)

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  122. I'm utterly disgusted by the generalisations in the comments.There are tons of porn videos on the web,does that mean that everyone likes to film such things too?Staged or not,assholes exist everywhere.Why did that video automatically make foreigners' view of Korea to be low?
    I think these netizens are not very well connected to their heads.

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  123. Men are conscripted to serve in the army by who? Powerful men. Why do they serve in the army? Because there is war between South and North Korea. Who started this war you ask? Men.

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  124. i really hope you're not being serious.

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  125. kpopwillneverstopJuly 28, 2013 at 12:01 AM

    Thanks. Appreciate it. And I hope I didn't sound sassy. Even though I am not happy with what's been going in America lately, I know that America was wrongfully judged in this situation.

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  126. kpopwillneverstopJuly 28, 2013 at 12:04 AM

    Someone posted the comments down in the comments below. I'll sum it up for you though.


    It was basically a list of things that women could get away with in Korea that guys couldn't and was so unnecessary to the topic which is why he got all those downvotes. Like, what sense does that make as a korean male to post that comment as the other comments are talking about how foreigners view their women low and you're comment is basically showing how you view your own women in your country?

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  127. kpopwillneverstopJuly 28, 2013 at 12:06 AM

    Girls in Korea do go to the army. It's not mandatory for them, but they do have women in the army.

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  128. Well, then you wouldn't get called out for sexual harassment. So, it's kinda like saying "I won't touch you", but then again, how bad is sexual harassment that this becomes a norm?

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  129. you know what i meant

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  130. The point is conscription. If you are born as a male in Korea, you have one more duty as a citizen.

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  131. It is when women wear very short skirts and go up on stairs. It's not "I won't touch you". It's "I won't see that part of you although it is right in front of my natural vision."

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  132. Haha, it;s cool. I'm American and I thought they were American too because of what I read in the last article.

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  133. 'They begin to experience inequality after they hit the glass ceiling at workplace.'
    Nope, they start experiencing inequality the day they are born.

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  134. Oh yea? If you want to talk about inequality at that level, then it goes same for males, too.

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  135. You seem to think men experience more inequality than women do. Are you a mens rights activist?

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  136. You seem to think only women can be victimized. Are you a feminist?

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  137. I see you trying to avoid the question, seems like I got my answer.

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  138. It's not avoiding. I'm not anything self-proclaimed. I'm just calling a spade a spade. Your argument (or lack thereof) is so poor that I didn't even have to engage. You just seem to have some victim complex and I got in your way inconveniently.

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  139. Not only do you avoid the question you edit your post and pretend you weren't avoiding it. LOL seems like I was the one who got in your way of trying to portray men as the biggest victims of inequality.

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  140. Lol you try. I made my sentences more clear so you don't misunderstand. What the hell is there to even 'avoid'? Whether I am a men's rights activist? Anybody who says women don't have it all bad and men don't have it all good is supposed to be an 'activist'? You are desperately trying to have an upper hand with some weird fixation now instead of engaging in any real argument. You've already revealed your strange way of thinking regarding conscription. That's why I can't take you seriously.

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  141. Dominique (도미나크)July 28, 2013 at 1:05 AM

    someone is thumbing us down lol!

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  142. i find it so disgusting to read those top comments. come'on, a woman is getting sexually harassed and all they seem to care about it is how that makes korean women seem easy to foreigners or how that embarrasses the korean nation. how about writing comments about getting the woman the justice that she deserves after what those men made her go through? whether it was foreigners who harassed her or not, shouldn't the focus be on the fact a woman was being sexually harassed and taped, so that these kind of things don't happen to other innocent women? the video became viral, i mean they could use this opportunity to throw hell at all the demons/people who sexually abuse women. and not just women, since men and children can be victims too.

    staged or not? the reaction to this whole thing is disgusting. pointing fingers at the victims is atrocious. makes my anger boil. ;<

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  143. Coming from someone who believes women ONLY start to experience inequality when, as I quote 'after they hit the glass ceiling at workplace,' I don't think anyone is taking you seriously...

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  144. i think she/he means not that woman in particular but all women should not be blamed


    idk lol XD

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  145. even if it was staged the language in this video was disgusting "go off and get plastic surgery like all the other korean bitches" was not necessary, what were they trying to portray? obviously the person who made this video has some underlying issues he needs to get help for.

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  146. their country developed wayyy too quickly for the people's mindset to develop, which is why even though the country is so technologically developed and civilised, their mindset is still very backwards =_=. it's the same for racist problems

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  147. Now you are putting words in my mouth. Where did I say women ONLY (you even have the nerve to bold that word) start to experience inequality after they hit the glass ceiling at workplace? Both men and women can be disadvantaged due to their gender expectations in various situations. The point is that women are more likely to be disadvantaged as employees building up career. You just don't seem to know how to argue at all. Let's stop wasting time.

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  148. How do you feel South Korea and Japan(since Japan is a highly developed nation and has been for a long time) compare then? Concerning gender inequality and racism of course.

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  149. 'Young Korean women have it good in everyday life. They begin to experience inequality after they hit the glass ceiling at workplace'

    This is what you said, don't backtrack now, own up to what you meant.

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  150. The funny thing is that most foreign men think the opposite considering how conservative Korean society is compared to the west.

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  151. funny how knetz complain on how foreigners see their woman as shit and stuff when they r the ones who actually degrade their woman by stating how they r such an embarrassment sigh

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  152. Backtrack what? Own up to what? I don't get your thought process. There is nothing absolutely quantifiable in that statement. It is in a relative and comparative sense. Do you honestly claim young Korean women are so oppressed or something in everyday life? They have it worse than Cambodian, Indian or UAE women? I didn't even say anything controversial. I didn't say Korean women don't experience discrimination at all outside work. I said both men and women can experience discrimination. Each individual experience can vary largely in that regard. Meanwhile, you made a ridiculous comment about Korean women having one less duty as citizens.

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  153. But Korean men do rape women and get away with it. Like, all the time...LOL you are so pressed.

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  154. You're the one who made a ridiculous comment about Korean women actually, incase you forgot, I'll refresh your memory.

    ''Young Korean women have it good in everyday life. They begin to experience inequality after they hit the glass ceiling at workplace'

    You're welcome.

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  155. You are sounding like a broken record. So go ahead and explain how young Korean women have it so bad in everyday life?

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  156. I can't help requoting something you said when you keep backtracking and denying it.

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  157. Just because you keep saying 1 is 2 doesn't mean 1 is 2. Drop that useless rhetoric and make an actual argument. Can you? Directly argue against my point. Show me how it is wrong.

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  158. seriously?
    i really don't know what to say to someone as self righteous as you
    i don't know about your country
    rapers do get punishment in korea.
    the problem is how many years of jail we give them and whether we should castrate them.

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  159. It sounds Irish or english

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  160. They need to understand that these comments are destroying their image more than anything.

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  161. Whether it's staged or not is not the issue here... The real problem is that they're complaining about how foreigners view Korean women when Korean men view Korean women in an even worse like than a foreigner ever could.


    All of that shit needs to fucking stop.


    (And if it WAS staged...... Idk what to say to that. Why would they even make a video like that in the first place? It's not comedy, it's just awful. You shouldn't treat anyone like that, whether they're man, woman, Korean, white, whatever.)

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  162. ''Young Korean women have it good in everyday life. They begin to experience inequality after they hit the glass ceiling at workplace."

    I don't kindly articulate everything I write on the internet as I normally expect readers to get the gist of what I'm saying.

    "Young Korean women don't have it as bad as some try to make it out to be. They generally have it good in everyday life. Both women and men can experience different perks and difficulties from gender expectations. At workplace, however, it is in general more lopsided against women as they hit the glass ceiling."

    Like it better now? You decided to play a rhetorical game instead of making a real argument.

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  163. All of that was said in the 3rd comment? What the.......

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  164. Just another netizenJuly 28, 2013 at 2:29 AM

    Exactly. Especially about if the movie was staged...like apparently it was supposed to be some sorta "social experiment" but that's so...stupid? Like, why go through the trouble of making a film for that, really? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

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  165. Just another netizenJuly 28, 2013 at 2:32 AM

    Oh...gotcha. I don't see why the writer would post that...any man can easily walk faster and go ahead of a lady in a skirt walking up the stairs...o.o no big whoop...at least not in this day and age.

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  166. Just another netizenJuly 28, 2013 at 2:32 AM

    Stereotypes, gotta love em'...

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  167. Just another netizenJuly 28, 2013 at 2:36 AM

    I think a lot of men in general, who travel a lot and go to foreign countries, look for some "fun" here and there...regardless of whether it's an Asian country or some other one...

    Side note: Korea should really think about cleaning up the prostitution industry though...apparently it makes 4% of Korea's GDP

    http://www.ibtimes.com/south-korea-thriving-sex-industry-powerful-wealthy-super-state-1222647

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  168. I don't think this is staged. Who the hell in the world would allow herself to be harassed by such damn foreigner? Like she didn't knew anything?

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  169. "Staged? I guess the fact that someone was even willing to be sexually harassed for a hundred bucks says it all."


    I wonder what this netizen thinks of actresses who do sex scenes in movies...

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  170. The thing is it really doesn't matter, if this is staged or not.
    This sort of sh*t happens across Asia every weekend. Usually, 2,3, or 4
    guys vs 1 girl. The guys are most likely American, but they are not
    the only ones. Typically these guys hear that this particular bar X is
    great for picking up "easy" girls. So they go there, but they get no
    traction at all, of if they are lucky they might be solicited by working
    girls. So they get frustrated and things starts to get rough as night
    goes on. I have seen this played out again and again.

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  171. 7. [+21, -6] I see this as nothing other than what Korean women have brought upon themselves with the image they've been creating

    I see this as nothing other than what Korean men have brought upon their country by putting down their own women.

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  172. the real shame is how, (staged or real) they're not disappointed in the men but in how that woman represents their country.

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  173. thief judged by their condition...

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  174. The lady was extremely drunk and the guys took advantage, simple as that... None in the video was staged and again this is another excuse of the Westerner. They mostly love to blame "OTHERS"... People you surely need to open your eyes and you'll see the reality. Last but not least, Koreans aren't dumb ass stupid...

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  175. Those bastards would still try to touch you even if you're covered from head to toe. I don't wear revealing clothes.. ever, but there would still be random guy trying to touch me when I walk in the crowd, station, bus, train, etc. But for me, I didn't fight not because I thought I was at fault. But rather because I was embarrassed if someone saw me as a victim of an assault. I would rather run away from the scene then having to confront the men. Sad, but that happens a lot. Women still feel embarrassed about this issue even though we are actually the victim.

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  176. I think that Ray William Johnson has a point

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB4aA4eO8wY

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  177. "1 out of every 25 women in the country is selling her body for sex"
    That's really sad...

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  178. I see that! lol
    Someone doesn't like that we're Korean? Or that we can go back and forth to Korea easily? What the hell, ha.

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  179. I find it really funny how Korea has painted this picture for the rest of the world with their "Conservative" Image. And that's mostly what it is, a image, illusion. Compared to other countries yeah, I'd say Korea is pretty conservative but not to the extent that Korea let's on or what everyone thinks thanks to Korean Dramas with plots that a 7 year old would write and grown people in their early 20s to mid 30s acting like innocent children who've never kissed, held hands, hugged or fucked in their lives. But that's just my take.

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  180. Just another netizenJuly 28, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    Yeah...o.o I was shocked at the article...maybe the reason why foreign guys go to some Asian countries is because they know the prostitution industry is more prominent?

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  181. I hate how mysoginic and twisted the comments are... Obviously both the men and the woman are in the wrong for staging something disgusting just to get attention and money but Korean mean seem to see their own female counterpart as lower than them and foreign women even lower, it's awful ._.

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  182. Dominique (도미나크)July 28, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    I am actually not korean...I moved to Korea because my family opened a business. I am a french citizen (black)

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  183. I thought you were Korean, my bad. That's really interesting. What kind of business does your family do?

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  184. hey i live in uae and i never experinced any inequality so check your facts

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  185. Dominique (도미나크)July 28, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    a french school + he also has a model company in France and some of his models were wanted in Korea so he just decided to move the whole family there! :)

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  186. That's really amazing! I'd love to live in France for a year or 2. I hope Korea has treated you and your family well :) Best of luck with the school and modeling.

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  187. Black french citizen ? Me too !
    How is it for you in Korea then ?


    (je sais mm pas pourquoi je parle en anglais xD)

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  188. Maybe there's is a certain dualism when it comes to behaviour? Like they like to think themselves very conservative/proper/with a certain etiquette but there are things they consider completely normal that westerners blink about.

    For example, everyone talks so freely about drinking and getting drunk and how much they can handle. I would never hear stuff like that in American interviews. Sure they do it but just casually mention it like they are talking about the weather? Or how they get close to one another, and their incidents about showering together and farting together. It happens everywhere but Koreans just have this very blunt, frank way of addressing this kind of stuff.



    And they have a sex park, and high rates of prostitution, and, from other people's experience, a really cool, heady, dizzy and confusing night life.

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  189. I think Japan had way more time to adapt to different mindsets. Sure there is still a lot sexism, racism, but it's more muted now, and it's not much worse then the average developed country. We can't really say their mindset are archaic when in comparison to SK.

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  190. I do think there are also double standards when it comes to men. But sexism in SK is more than just getting a job.


    Just a few weeks ago I saw a TL;DR from S&M, and Martina mentioned how girls cannot smoke in front of their boyfriends, you see a bunch of girls in the toilet smoking away before coming out. And that's just one example. This article itself shows sexism that has nothing to do with the workplace. People is more likely to blame a woman of rape than the man "because she was practically asking for it". That's sexist. It's all the double standards, double standards that most of the time Korean women are not aware of, because women CAN be sexist too. And sexist against themselves.

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  191. Well you got a point there. There doesn't go a day where I don't hear girls saying boys are all unfaithful dogs.

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  192. Or did you notice that men can also be called sluts, bitches, whores, skanks, cocksuckers, minxes but the adjectives are feminine? I've seen other people call guys adjectives like those, and that implies acting a certain way and thugs being judged like a slut is a rule for women, and an exception for men. Hell, the word manwhore implies sexism, you have to add the "man" before because supposedly, whores are only girls.

    Like when people say "you hit like a girl". It implies guys at their worst are still better than girls at their best.

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  193. Their is a Dualism but it's more hypocritical than anything else. From my experiences in Korea, a lot of people are so full of Hypocrisy.

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  194. That disgust me. I watched the video and in the beginning it looked like she was purposely with them but later it esclated and thats when the harrasment came in. Honestly both parties are at fault cause the girl looked so drunk she couldnt see straight and the guyd were clearly taking advantage of her because of that. Great, another reason why people shouldnt like americans under our belt.

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  195. I think your talking about all men just like how it's so easy for a women to seduce a guy.

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  196. #8... Now I know what exactly I should not teach any of my future children.

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