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Tuesday, July 30, 2013

So Ji Sub defends idol actors


Article: So Ji Sub "Negative views towards idols going into acting? I visited the music industry too, so..."

Source: Newsen via Nate

"I don't think I'm in a position to say anything about that because I sometimes visit the music industry as well. When idols come to film, we work with them as actors, not idols. I've worked with them often and they work hard just like actors. I view them positively because they work hard enough to not be criticized. They're good at what they do, and you can't expect everyone to be good at it from the get go. People should watch over them and give them some space. I wasn't great starting off either."

1. [+516, -26] Can't compare them to So Ji Sub... So Ji Sub is good at acting which is his original profession and only sings once in a while unlike idols who suck at both singing and acting... I really can't stand the second hand embarrassment from idol acting...

2. [+389, -12] "visiting the music industry"  ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Not only is he handsome and a good actor but witty too ㅋㅋㅋ

3. [+381, -29] No one would hate the idols if they were good at their original profession and good at their acting side jobs ㅋㅋㅋ Look at Eunji, IU, and Seo In Guk. They're all good at singing and are even good at acting so they don't get hated on.

4. [+24, -3] It was ridiculous when singers who can't even act stole all of the rookie actors' jobs in dramas and then get pissed when Infinity Challenge released digital songs ㅋ Go practice your singing... Why're you even trying to act when you can't even sing?

5. [+12, -3] There's a vast difference between sucking at both and doing decently at least in your original profession

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354 comments:

  1. I'm curious to know what people think of T.O.P and Yoochan's acting...they seemed to get praises like IU and some of the others...and not hated on like other idol actors...but I'm not sure since neither has had anything released in a while (though T.O.P will by the end of the year)

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  2. 1. [+516, -26] Can't compare them to So Ji Sub... So Ji Sub is good at acting which is his original profession and only sings once in a while unlike idols who suck at both singing and acting... I really can't stand the second hand embarrassment from idol acting...



    ooh god... but this statement is just hypocritical and ignorant ><

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  3. 3. [+381, -29] No one would hate the idols if they were good at their original profession and good at their acting side jobs ㅋㅋㅋ Look at Eunji, IU, and Seo In Guk. They're all good at singing and are even good at acting so they don't get hated on.



    I have no idea whether people like or dislike IU's acting anymore because every article about her being in her most recent drama was a barrage of hate.


    But it's true that Eunji & Seo In Guk don't get hated on too much for their acting...... Even Taeyeon (who is a good singer) didn't get hated on too much when she had her little part in Salamander Whatchamacallit. (Is that what the drama was called?)


    Yoona, Minho, Dongho, etc. on the other hand...


    Lol. Now I'm just laughing. :x

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  4. singingforwisdomJuly 30, 2013 at 5:33 AM

    To be honest, lots of idol actors aren't really even THAT BAD really... I think people just base it off of their spite for idols, in general.

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  5. if a veteran actor is saying they don't have a problem with idol actors i think that netizens should respect his opinion. he's the one who works with them and knows the industry.

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  6. Not at all surprised by these comments but So Ji Sub is flawless and that's all I have to contribute to this discussion lol

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  7. They seem to like TOP & Yoochun's acting, but TOP doesn't really make the news when he acts because he hasn't been in any dramas recently & Yoochun's articles are flooding with cracks about his asthma & military service.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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  8. Please don't go and grouping Yoona with Minho and Dongho...you can see some idol more worse than Yoona

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  9. someone finally said something about it omg
    there is nothing wrong with Idols transitioning into acting but I'm sure the public gets pissed when companies push idols with 0 acting skills into dramas with super skilled actors

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  10. they hate idols. that's it. and not all idols are piece of trash anyway.
    but, thumbs up to so jisub. ugh, as expected <3

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  11. taeyeon was terrible in salamander guru, i'm saying that as an honest to god fan of hers. minho acted circles around her in it and minho's not a great actor either. the reason she didn't get much attention for it was because it was just a 1 episode role if i remember correctly, 2 at most.

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  12. So Ji Sub was the reason I watched Ghost even though the first few episodes consisted of Lee Yeon Hee attempting to deliver what few lines she had with as little diction & emotion as possible.


    I know it's irrelevant to the topic at hand, but Lee Yeon Hee is a fucking horrible actress. Omfg. T.T

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  13. The main message is that it is unfair for a mediocre idol to get a role just because he or she is an idol, while that role could have been given to rookies with a lot of potential, and for less money. Yes, yes I know people will say it is for promo purposes, but if we look at past top rated dramas, many of them had immense success because they had excellent story lines and actors. If an idol is good, then they get praised, but if an idol is clearly unfit for the role, it is unfair. Same goes for "actors".

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  14. Love Rain was the worst drama I had ever seen until To the Beautiful You came out.


    I like SNSD & most SM idols but DAMMIT they make it so hard to support them when they act. UGH.

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  15. Idol actors would have to start of somewhere & work their way to the top. I thought idols take acting classes too no during their trainee times? I would rather an idol actor who is decent in acting compared to veteran actors who can't act at all.

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  16. Taeyeon was ~okay~ because her character wasn't a stretch from her idol image. Minho as an actor is... Well, calling him an actor is just being kind to begin with tbh.


    SM has all this money & they're trying so hard to push their idols into dramas & movies...... maybe they should use some of that money to hire the best acting coach in Asia to help them so we don't have to see these articles about crappy idol acting anymore.

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  17. They are also entitled to their own opinions. When something is bad, it should be criticized. It seems like what you're saying is that viewers should just be quiet and watch whatever crappy acting is seen on screen. Nope.

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  18. Netizens aren't into all that "being humble" and "learning from someone more knowledgeable" stuff. They say they like So Ji Sub but if they really liked and respected him they would STFU for once and learn from what he says.

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  19. 3. [+381, -29] No one would hate the idols if they were good at their original profession and good at their acting side jobs ㅋㅋㅋ Look at Eunji, IU, and Seo In Guk. They're all good at singing and are even good at acting so they don't get hated on.



    I don't know about IU's acting but I agree with Eunji and Seo In guk

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  20. TOP is terrible, he's really wooden and not natural at all (before anyone asks, yes I have seen Into the Fire). Yoochun is a bit better, but imo they both lack screen presence.

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  21. 3. [+381, -29] No one would hate the idols if they were good at their original profession and good at their acting side jobs ㅋㅋㅋ Look at Eunji, IU, and Seo In Guk. They're all good at singing and are even good at acting so they don't get hated on.


    This is so not true lol. IU still sometimes get hated. And Uee, who is one of the idols that are most praised for her acting, is a terrible singer.

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  22. If there are still netizens criticizing idol actors despite what he said, then we can single out who hate out of jealousy and out of the fact that they just like hating.

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  23. Question....they why of all "idol actors" did they both receive so much praise, get invited to so many award shows and even win multiple rookie and other specialty awards when they did act?

    Just curious since you seem to think they are both poor actors.

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  24. Can't wait to watch his new drama next week after I Hear Your Voice end.

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  25. the thing is if you're GOOD then you'll be PRAISE and if your BAD then these netizens got all the right to hate or criticize you. END OF STORY

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  26. i'm not saying they shouldn't state their opinion when they think something is bad but not one of these comments reflects anything along the lines of considering what he's saying. respecting someone's opinion doesn't mean agreeing with it 100% it means acknowledging that they might have insight that you don't and giving it consideration.

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  27. I just hope that TOP will keep his clean image. Actually, it's much better to not have much comments about him rather than having hateful comments about him.

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  28. So Ji Sub you are so gorgeous

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  29. It was bad when she was first announced as the lead but they turned into compliments when it turned out that her acting had improved a lot.

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  30. He's got a point. Sooyoung did a very good job in both her dramas but netizens didn't care because she's an idol. She did better than a lot of popular "actresses".

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  31. You're right, her being an idol & from SM made many judge her without seeing it, but the thing about Sooyoung is she was never bashed for her acting because netizens know she's good & gets better.

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  32. Thats my baby.
    So Ji Sub is such an amazing actor, singer and just a great person in general <3

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  33. I really can't stand the second hand embarrassment from idol acting...

    Funny, I sometimes can't stand the secondhand embarrassment from reading some of the misogynistic comments by some K-netizens but I'm not calling for their right to express their opinion to be revoked.

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  34. well the way you stated it comes off as netizens in general should just shut up and listen to those who are professionals and that professionals know it better than viewers. Thank you for clarifying.

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  35. Yoochun is a great actor and singer let's be honest...Ah...since the Iris fiasco...I haven't watched another drama/movie top has been in but I'll try to.

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  36. Idols will act despite your negative comments, deal with it.

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  37. lol hater detected....Yoochun is a great actor...what are you talking about? Lmao...

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  38. Even with his well thought out comment, there will be those who feel the need to justify their dislike for idol-actors. Aren't there some idol-actors who are good at acting, but not very good at singing?

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  39. People need to give idols some time for improvement.bad start doesnt mean that they cant be great actors later on.experience is a great teacher.

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  40. I've never seen TOP act, but only heard great things about him Yoochun is actually really good & one of the better idol-actors.

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  41. hehe ppl actually think Siwon went into the wrong entertainment section.

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  42. There are still people who doesn't want to click the switch even though it is just beside them. Still don't want to see some light?

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  43. i think their opinions are usually pretty positive about TOP (except when it's a GTOP article, then they bring up the flag incident). there wasn't a lot of hate or objection when he won his rookie awards for his role in Into the Fire. when there were articles about him acting for his movie, the comments were encouraging and wished him luck. it's probably because TOP didn't jump into acting and started off with smaller roles. he hasn't been really done many acting projects where he got a significant amount of screentime either. and i guess it helps that they think he's really handsome, but i'd love to see TOP make them praise him for his skills instead. as a fan, i think he still has room for improvement... but i thought he did pretty well in Into the Fire, definitely an improvement from his Iris days. i cried buckets lol

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  44. I don't know why I feel like some ifans think korean netizens are one giant monster that hates everybody! they're many people lol

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  45. 1. [+516, -26] Can't compare them to So Ji Sub... So Ji Sub is good at acting which is his original profession and only sings once in a while unlike idols who suck at both singing and acting...



    um, no. /most/ idol-actor doing acting also once in a while too. some of them are horrible yes, but most are doing okay

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  46. ikr...Idk what he/she is speaking about that yoochun lacks screen presence if anything that man's charisma flows through the tv to the viewers

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  47. here_comes_troubleJuly 30, 2013 at 6:00 AM

    I'm gonna rewatch 'secret garden parody' back. gaaahhhhh... I miss TOP~~

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  48. Please don't speak..I didn't even get to complete you're beautiful... Nothing drew me in or popped out at me...it was just ..flat for me.

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  49. idols who can't both sing and act and deserve all criticism are Yoona, Minho.

    Suzy's acting wasn't good but she at least can sing, Sooyoung is not that great but decent at acting and singing.

    sm really has that power, they bought many acting awards for Yoona (their moneymaker favorite artist) in the past, but well, netizens still don't accept her, unlike TOP/ Yoochun / Eunji / UEE who got the same best newcomer award as Yoona but became acceptable idol-actors/actresses.

    now it seems that sm support Sooyoung and her acting more, she's got many praises even it's her first time leading drama in Cyrano, people love her acting since 3rd hospital and sm know it thats why they let Sooyoung continue in her acting though SNSD still working with their tour, they see Sooyoung's potential (same go for Yuri, who is filming movie with LeeJongSuk and SeoInGuk) while Yoona, her two latest dramas were all suck, her acting never been praised from public, maybe thats why sm stopped pushing her into acting career and only stuck her with CF and event. can't act and sing the least out of all SNSD members, now she is really and only a face.

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  50. I agree........... To The Beautiful You the small 3-5 eps (I believe I stopped at the party) I watched just made me smh and cringe

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  51. I agree there's nothing wrong with it..I just would like the idol actors they pick to have the talent for acting to back up being picked for a lead role.. If they aren't up to par don't cast them.

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  52. In an industry where actors are paid large sums of money, I think the Knetz expect more from idol actors so the "ripping off" from the production company is somewhat justified. If you have an industry that is saturated with actors to the extent that some actors don't even have the chnace to act, the last thing you need is more people in the industry. What makes it worse is idols' original profession is to sing and dance, due to their "international popularity", the production company casted them instead of the sea of actors with decent acting skills who do not get the chance to shine at all. The idols can survive without acting, the actors can't. If the idols are decent in acting, probably it will be more justified to cast them because they have the skills like an actor. In contrast, if you cast someone who is awkward in acting, what you will get in the end is just pure criticism because that person may spoil the whole flow of the drama. The the casting of the idol actors aren't as justified.

    I understand about the "international popularity" which the idols may have and the rookie actors don't have. I don't deny this will help them to sell internationally and earn more money because the foreign broadcast stations may only buy those dramas with faces they recognise. However, the root of all these hatred for the idols is only the lack of giving the real actors a chance to shine. A good drama will sell in overseas if it is popular enough. To achieve this, you just need to make your drama as good as possible, with flawless cast and plot. People overseas will buy them eventually. In addition, idols who want to act should go through casting auditions too. They will compete on a level playing field as other actors. They get chosen because they are better than the rest, not because they are idols (to some extent still yes, but the directors won't cast someone who is so damn lousy over someone who is super good, they will make more considerations).

    In the end, my stance is still if idols can act well then its alright. If they can't, then don't even try to act. Its awkward to see someone acting awkwardly on tv, staring their eyes wide and opening their mouth into an 'O' shape no matter what happened. I'm looking at you Lee Yeon Hee and Kim Tae Hee. You two are the exceptions to actors acting and idols singing. Okay, probably I will still give Kim Tae Hee a pass but Lee Yeon Hee, you need acting lessons. Asap.

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  53. out of all SNSD-actresses, Yoona is worst, she was there in dramas because of her pretty face. she may got many praises for her beauty but none praised her for her acting skill. actually never heard anyone praised her talent lol eg. singing, acting, dancing, etc. this girl only been praised for her korean beauty.

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  54. eunji is not that good they think her act is good just cause the drama is going well ERGHH

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  55. dear k-netz.. u hate on idols intending to act before they even start and before u know if they are good or not.. take IU as an example

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  56. IKR he is the my first Korean bias

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  57. lol you seem like a butthurt kid

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  58. what about the girl in the monstar she more horrible than idols!!!

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  59. i think top acting is just okay not too horrible he just as good as some actors

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  60. popularity rule everything..they are definitely not that bad but there are long list actors who did better than them just not getting recognition because they are not popular and have big fanbase

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  61. i not sure about suzy's singing

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  62. Sorry So Ji Sub, I kinda disagree,
    Idols who can sing well and also act well when they try their hand at it are acceptable.
    Idols who can't sing to save their own lives and also try their hand at acting because other member's in their group have acted but fail miserably at it, are not acceptable.

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  63. I'm not sure about Yoochun, I don't follow him. But I thought he wasn't good in I Miss You, and he was clearly overshadowed by Yoo Seungho. As for TOP, he received three awards iirc: two for popularity (which are pretty much irrelevant) and one for newcomer. He wasn't praised by his sunbaes (except for John H. Lee), in fact Cha Seungwon (who was his co-star in ITF) said he's not good (I remember VIPs bashing him lol).

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  64. try hard next time...looser

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  65. she is not that great singer but at least can sing lot better than Yoona.

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  66. lol I'm not a hater. He wasn't good in my opinion in I Miss You.

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  67. stop bringing up yoona into this!! cant u recall anyother tht is worst...please she is much better..

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  68. but she's decent to watch

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  69. my sis and friends said that he was really good in 71 Into the Fire

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  70. Yeah ikr. But Lee Yeon Hee's acting in GHOST and GFB showed that she improved atleast by a bit...

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  71. disqus_iA0JDZQyxSJuly 30, 2013 at 6:12 AM

    who's to say that these ifans weren't just talking about these specific netizens?

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  72. Did praise from Yoon Suk Ho enough for your argument?

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  73. lol at that yoona "technically" is one of the best dancer, and her singing improved by heaps he sings live in every performance along with other snsd members even raps. ,,here are some some recent yoona parts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKLEOhqSVHI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03fDzMzdF1E

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  74. yoona is great at acting than suzywho?

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  75. Dongho is a wall they can't climb.

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  76. TOP not acting that much..while yoochun is ok, netizen like to cricitize him too like last year when he won excellence awards while there bunch of good actors didn't get anything...

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  77. yoona is a very good dancer she is an ok singer AND can rap too

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  78. She is bad but she isn't called out for it a lot because her being cute as hell distracts people.

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  79. i think yoochun is ok in level of idol...but definitely not that good in actor level

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  80. Everytime i hear about Siwon i remember his wild sprint from fangirls lol.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLLYivKcnT0

    I like his acting though, he was good in King of Dramas.

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  81. I agree I think it will turn out that he is more suited to comedy...

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  82. Jenizz | pinkcrownJuly 30, 2013 at 6:20 AM

    Uhm.. what I don't get... why does an Idol need to be good in singing when he/she wants go into acting?

    Sure it would be more convinient for an Idol to be able to sing but... why do they have to have the skill for acting?!

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  83. K-netizens went as far as to want siwon to quit his singing career and re-debut as an actor. Honestly sieon

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  84. you cal someone who can only follow choreo and can't even does freestyle one of best dancer??? the best ones are Hyoyeon and Yuri, then Sooyoung and Seohyun. Yoona is somewhere in the middle, not bad but nothing special, her dancing skill is just as same as general idols lol and your so-called her singing and rapping can't even sompare to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BHL4dEZRFk

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  85. Yoon Suk Ho is Love Rain's PD lol who would criticize their own cast????

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  86. because their main job is singer...it so cruel to steal other main job when they are not good in their own job

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  87. Korean acting is very subjective...while I absolutely adore So Ji Sub it isn't necessarily for his acting...because as far as I can see he has very little range as an actor...he broods and he cries...that's about it...I know he getting ready to start a romantic comedy...and I'm waiting to see if he even has a funny bone in his body...I've got the feeling he's going to be the straight man in this drama...which so far seems to be pretty much all he can do...

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  88. Did you really read the whole article before you reply me?
    Also, sorry to say this I prefer to hear director praise because they know more than netizen and especially you about acting. At least they know what to praise and criticize

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  89. well he was put into SuJu to become an actor x]

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  90. while sooyoung lack of beauty also in netizens's eyes also didn't help

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  91. but Sooyoung starting to receive some good review from netizens after her role in Cyrano, there are some articles did praise her as well. they even perfer her acting over Yoona who WAS well-know as SNSD-actress. now Sooyoung is like the best actress in SNSD, lets wait for her next appearance on drama on nation TV, that's when she will fully shine as actress.

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  92. i already said "technically" ..i showed my dance teacher some vids and asked what they think about snsd members and other idols in dancing ,,all of them praised yoona they said she had the best technique her movements were the sharpest clear and zero mistakes ,,,

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  93. Where did I say "Korean"?

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  94. So Ji Sub may be a veteran actor now but he was a swimmer and then a jeans model first...so no he wasn't a trained actor...he also dabbles in rap which he really shouldn't because he's awful...but I understand he can get away with it because of who he is...however just because you love rap doesn't mean you can do it...it doesn't surprise me that he would defend idols and he should there is no reason why they shouldn't try their hand at acting too...at least they have other talents besides just standing in front of a camera and looking fabulous...there are many more Korean "actors" that started out as models first which other than the camera how does that give you more qualifications than an idol...it doesn't...

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  95. And then we have Kim kibum who went on a supposed hiatus to act and he's not even half as successful as siwon who took time out to participate in SJ's activities.

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  96. dancer teacher from primary school? lol

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  97. you seems to have the mind of a primary school kid thats for sure lol

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  98. Looking forward for yoochun's next project...im sure its gonna be great

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  99. 3. [+381, -29] No one would hate the idols if they were good at their original profession and good at their acting side jobs ㅋㅋㅋ Look at Eunji, IU, and Seo In Guk. They're all good at singing and are even good at acting so they don't get hated on.



    I'm glad that some of the idol-actors' effort got appreciated. Hopefully some of the good idol actors will become like Eric, Yoon Eun-hye and Eugene.

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  100. I'm kind of glad that So Ji Sub defended them. If acting is something interesting to an idol and they really try their best, then who are we to hate on them? We may not like their acting, but if they are trying their best to improve then we have no reason to judge. I remember when Sooyoung was casted in her drama, and people did not want to watch simply because she was an idol that was acting.

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  101. the person stated netizens which is a broad term that could mean both i-netz and k-netz.

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  102. Are you serious? She gets called out in almost every article of hers.

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  103. I'm sure his words apply only to ones that show promise - it's hard to believe he'd go as far to defend those like KARA's Seunghyun, ShiNee's Minho, T-ara's Jiyeon etc, all of whose acting is...not exactly the best, to put it very subtly.

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  104. some of them may never get good but if it's Korean TV that doesn't really matter because there isn't a lot of really good acting going on there anyway...the BEST Korean actors don't do much TV if at all...

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  105. SM do have decent actors like Siwon and Sooyoung. I didn't really watch Siwon's performance except some episodes of King of Drama so I can't judge. Sooyoung was a surprise for me. Her acting in The 3rd Hospital was quite awkward imo. Recently watched Dating Agency: Cyrano and she was good. Probably she suits the role well too. Hopefully she gets some recognition and try out other dramas in the future.

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  106. yes director praise is good but it must not come from director from her own drama lol even director can be biased with their own cast lol

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  107. Because much of the time when you post here regarding netizens as a whole, it's usually indicating or straightout biased against K-netizens.


    After all, you have categorized them into practically one big group of organized cyber-mobs of the sort more than a few times.

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  108. they aren't...you mean the international fans are as uptight as the Koreans...I really don't think so...nor do international fan have the slightest influence over the industry...it is still driven by the crazy Korean fans...

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  109. "4. [+24, -3] It was ridiculous when singers who can't even act stole all of the rookie actors' jobs in dramas and then get pissed when Infinity Challenge released digital songs ㅋ Go practice your singing... Why're you even trying to act when you can't even sing?"


    I'm pretty sure it was KEPA (which surprise, surprise, has scumbags like Kim Kwang Soo in its higher ranks) that complained about Infinity Challenge releasing songs that became hits.


    Not singers. That organization needs to be hammered to oblivion with force.

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  110. why don't your Yoona become one of Dancing 9's masters if she is technically good at dancing? whoever in this industry ever praise Yoona's dancing skill? none, why? because there is nothing special in her dancing, it's just the moves that all of idols can do, even some dance cover in Youtube dance better than Yoona lol

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  111. which rookie actors are you talking about...do you know which actors are being shut out because of idols...just asking...

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  112. Idol didnt really takes up rookie actor places imo. Rookies actor usually start as supporting anyway. And since people didnt really know them there isnt much of a hype. Its until they prove their capability that they start to be more recognize

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  113. can I ask a kind of stupid question...how can you tell which idols can dance and which can't...every video I see looks almost the same with almost the same choreography...a bunch of kids all dancing in unison...I don't get it...

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  114. knetz and their logic
    aish...

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  115. why dont you find some flaws in yoona's dancing if you are such a master in it hyoyeon and yuri are definately better dancer naturally i never said they are not but yoona is a good dancer and no where near a "bad" dancer

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  116. If they want to be not called a cyber-mob, they can stop acting like a cyber-mob.

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  117. there's logic applied...

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  118. so? IU is good at singing
    but when it was announced that she will be the female lead in Lee Soo shin, all hell broke loose.. regardless if she will be a good actress or not
    that is my point

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  119. apparently so...

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  120. Korea seems to lack of good actors in particular and there aren't many new actors recently. There aren't many younger actors (early 20s) actors like Song Joong-ki is already 29 and Lee Jong-suk is already in his mid 20s. I'm actually looking forward to the next generation of actors like Kim So-hyun, Kim Yoo-jung, Yeo Jin-goo etc. They have good acting skills and good visual.

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  121. it's just that these comments seem to criticize criticize and criticize while lacking any constructive criticism ... the sort of comments one throws out there as they have set their mind on 'idols can't act, ever, no matter' because that seems to be a trend online that has cemented in the minds of these netizens as an undeniable fact ... just saying what i think..

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  122. I don't think idol actors should be hated as long as they are good. So jisub said they shouldn't be hated bc they work hard as actors. But imo that doesn't matter bc ppl only see the end result and if the end result is barely decent/bad acting then it should be critizied

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  123. well your culture is even more youth obsessed than mine evidently because being 29 is young...and mid 20s is really young...and anything under 18 is Disney channel stuff...just saying...I know you can't help it but the whole age thing in Korea is a real hang up to all kinds of things..29 is not old...just saying...

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  124. that is true
    i remember all teh bashing she get even when she is praised in her acting earlier on...

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  125. You mean certain groups of netizens are cyber-mobs.


    You on the other hand, have more than once, labelled basically the entire entity of K-netizens as a cyber-mob - that's almost hardly any different to people spitting on that every American is racist or trigger-happy, every Muslim is a terrorist or that every German soldier in WW2 was a bloodthirsty Nazi.

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  126. where is Yoona's dancing flawed though? She is a good dancer and it's ridiculous to deny her that. Hence why she is considered a part of the dance line.

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  127. well even good actors can turn in a bad performance...they get involved with projects that don't suit them or they just don't feel the role or fit the role...working hard on the other hand ...you are right does not necessarily produce good results...perhaps what he is trying to say is ...stop being a bunch of whiny assed brats criticizing hard working people for something you know nothing about...the demands of acting in a Korean drama....

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  128. what's the question?

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  129. It wasn't as terrible as her debacle in East of Eden at least :3. Now that was fucking intolerable as hell.

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  130. I know some trainees become idols/go into singing because it's easier to land an acting role after having public recognition

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  131. the drama doing well of course because of actors and actress that act in it.. because of that, the viewers continue to watch it because its worth to watch..

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  132. I was strongly referring to the part where Comment 4 thinks it was singers who got pissed about Infinity Challenge releasing songs that became hits - which is untrue, as only KEPA threw a fit about it.


    Nitpicking a part of a comment, to put it very bluntly.

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  133. 4. [+24, -3] It was ridiculous when singers who can't even act stole all of the rookie actors' jobs in dramas and then get pissed when Infinity Challenge released digital songs ㅋ Go practice your singing... Why're you even trying to act when you can't even sing?





    True about the IC part..

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  134. singers were not the ones who were pissed at IC for releasing a digital it was the KEPA.

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  135. He is perfection.
    My favorite actor and my actor bias <3
    Love him sfm!

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  136. First...So Ji Sub is my favorite Korean actor...not because he can act...which he can't...it's because I think he is probably one of the most beautiful men on the planet...he can do two things...stare and cry...that's it...but that doesn't matter because in a Korean drama that's all you really have to do...

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  137. " No one would hate the idols if they were good at their original profession and good at their acting side jobs ㅋㅋㅋ Look at Eunji, IU, and Seo In Guk. They're all good at singing and are even good at acting so they don't get hated on. " AGREE WITH THIS

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  138. "They're good at what they do, and you can't expect everyone to be good at it from the get go. People should watch over them and give them some space. I wasn't great starting off either."


    Of course, you got people who are decent at the job like Sooyoung, Eunjung, Eunji and Krystal. Some aren't wholly terrible, like IU and Yoochun.


    But those like Seungyeon, Minho, Yoona need to get acting lessons for at least a few years before even bothering to think about starring in a movie or drama.

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  139. I love him too...he is my favorite but not because I think he can act...it's because I think he is so damned good looking it almost blinds you...

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  140. I don't think there is anything wrong with idol's becoming actors if they are good, but I cant stand it when I am watching a drama and the idols are just sooo horrible, I am like why did the director put them in. Like seriously


    These horrible acting idols are giving idols a bad reputation.

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  141. Forever stuck in the dungeons of SM.

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  142. ekek YSH overshadow yc? lol you must not watch IMY. please don't pretend you watch that drama.

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  143. lol if yc really bad how come RTP and IMY story focus more on him not HJM or YEH?

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  144. why you think he was bad in IMY. can you tell the reason me? please watch first before make comments.

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  145. If you don't think he can act then theres something very wrong.


    Hes not an A grade actor for nothing...
    He can sing, rap and act... and to top it off he is sexy af.

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  146. I watched it and I hated that drama...but I love, love, love, Yoochun...I do think he is more suited to comedy...he just needs to be smiling all the time...because he has a darling smile...

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  147. because I think he should concentrate on comedy...Rooftop Prince is just more his style...

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  148. they have manyyyyy young talented actor. you want actor in early 20s to be hero? hello this is not disney channel. also many actor will discharged from army. so the competition really high.

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  149. When flat-out cyberbullying hate comments from netizens calling on idols to destroy their careers, suicide, die in car crashes etc get thousands of up votes and a handful of downvotes, that's a pretty clear indication that mob mentality is at work. Just calling it as I see it. Find me some sensible comments from netizens and I'll give credit where it's due.

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  150. So Ji Sub is flawless .. that all i'll say ..

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  151. just because he's an A lister doesn't necessarily mean he can act...even in the U.S. we have A list actors that aren't really that good...or at least they don't have a broad range of acting skills...I have watched EVERYTHING by SJS and he doesn't have that broad of a range to pull from...he is getting ready to star in a rom com so we will see if he can pull off a comedy something he hasn't really done yet...

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  152. I call them the Borg...do you know what that is...

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  153. sorry didn't mean to sound nit picky...but since the entire thread seems to bashing idols...i just kind of assume that idols get trained a lot like our old disney kids which means they get absorbed in the entertainment business...in the U.S. nobody would dare criticize Justin Timberlake for trying to act...which he can...just because he started out as a singer...of course he may not be a good example since he is pretty much THE SHIT...maybe Ryan Gosling is a better example..I think the idol kids probably get a pretty well rounded education when it comes to the entertainment industry...being in front of camera etc.

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  154. I agree to you, but as you know netizen love to find mistakes that the idols do and then bash them, I'm afraid his statment couldn't stop this in human tradition of k-netz

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  155. they are scary...and kind of a human but not quite a human anymore...it's really the hive mind that creeps me out the most...but that is very Asian...you know Confucianism and all that...

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  156. I also think it wouldn't do him one damned bit of good to say otherwise....even if he thought differently...I think giving an opinion in Korea is going to spark some kind of debate regardless...

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  157. did they even read what he said ? o.O
    i'm always amazed by the fact that they just ignore an entire article if it doesn't match their own opinions. it must have pissed them off since it comes from So Ji Sub and that they can't even attack him saying "what does he know ? he is not a good actor himself"
    and SJS actually made a point here saying that idols are not the only ones to try other artistic areas ! but no they just give the one example of the music industry not wanting others to sing with Infinity Challenge !
    geez their hypocrizy is unbelievable !
    they want to hate the idols point and they are pathetic enough to want to convince themselves that they are rational and objective.

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  158. Shining EXOtic B2uty SooJuly 30, 2013 at 7:32 AM

    SooYoung is basically hated because he got a scandal with their Godly Won Bin and another actor + her beauty is not the ideal beauty of Korean, if you read the article before; the hated her because of her looks because they can't hate on her acting since she's pretty doing good.

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  159. I agree and I'm the one that says he isn't that good of an actor...although not in the context that he shouldn't have an opinion or that he isn't right that idols should be given a chance...

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  160. but there is horrible "real" actors too ! i watched a lot of dramas and a lot were not good either although they studied acting !

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  161. no kidding...I don't think TV actors actually need to be able to act...especially in melodramas...they just need to be able to stare intently and cry on cue...

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  162. Shining EXOtic B2uty SooJuly 30, 2013 at 7:37 AM

    I think what basically So Ji Sub trying to say is Idols do worked hard as any other actors too, I mean, he respected the for their efforts and there are who are improving too. I think what he was just trying to say is, Netizens should give an idol a chance, just because some of them sucks that doesn't mean that they will be forever sucks. There's always a room for improvement, you know.

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  163. very good...finally someone with a rational mind..I would venture to bet that even SJS thinks that he can always be improving his own acting skills...

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  164. Great comment.

    I want to add on.. How many idols that can ACTUALLY act? You guys would say names like Eunji, UEE, IU, Sooyoung... But if you look at it carefully, majority of them aren't even decent at acting at all yet they still get lead roles + high pay. Furthermore, most rookie actors have definitely taken some acting classes whereas not every idol could have.

    One more thing. When you guys said things like "Not every actor can act. Look at Kim Tae Hee, Lee Yeon Hee, Han Gain.".. Umm.. Anymore? (I can name more tho) These 3 names are always mentioned to argue against the "idol's acting vs actor's acting".. The thing is, in this industry, majority of the actors can act and only a minority of idols are average to decent. You can't help if people have unfavorable opinion on idols' acting skills before they watch them.

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  165. I'd take it you don't really read around articles that focus on other stuff (i.e. anything that's practically outside of entertainment-related news) that have more-than-sensible comments with more upvotes and downs, but here's two I can give, one related to entertainment and one regarding the bullying situation in Korea.

    http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.co.nz/2013/07/taeyeon-and-tiffany-sing-at-dodger.html

    http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.co.nz/2013/01/korea-builds-their-first-ever-school.html

    And here's another; http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.co.nz/2013/06/this-1-day-1-meal-diet-trend-needs-to.html



    Not as many upvotes and downvoters in comparison to ones that get thousands, but so long as there's people within the crowd that make sensible comments, it's a very huge flaw to group up every single one of them as nutjobs - which is what you have done time and time again, unless you can provide some official statistics that somehow show that the vast majority of K-netz are crazy nutjobs, but no such data likely exists - especially considering millions of people use the internet.


    The showbizz isn't the only topic K-netz talk about, y'know. Hell, I'm Korean myself, and sure as hell don't take part in online mobbing on a daily basis.


    As I've said - what you're saying, is hardly any different to the examples in my other post.

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  166. I understand you don't want to generalize because you aren't one of them and you are Korean...but you cannot deny that Korean fans have attempted to tank careers based on their threats of boycott...I have often wondered if they have ever really had to go that far or if the entertainment companies just cave before they ever really have to do anything more than type...

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  167. You know Idol actors get special treatments... like a lot. I think this is why people dislike them, they can get lead roles faster and maybe even without auditioning (talking about rookies here). I don't think Suzy can act that well but there she is getting lead roles. I have nothing against Idol actors that can ACT. Rookies must audition while rookie idol actors easily get roles given to them. Now a lot of people can take advantage of that and just become an Idol so they can get decent roles automatically.

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  168. Korean TV has a lot of actors that started out as something else...modeling for one thing...you know in the U.S. there was a huge stigma attached to models turned actor for a long time...in a lot of ways it still is...we don't have that many famous models that are able to break into acting without great difficulty...

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  169. he need to do variety role of drama. if not he will be typecast actor.

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  170. I think that Idols are mostly hated on their acting because their idols. For example, L and Minho aren't as bad actors as everyone says they are. During to the beautiful you and Shut up flower boy band you can see their acting improve along the way.

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  171. 3. [+381, -29] No one would hate the idols if they were good at their original profession and good at their acting side jobs ㅋㅋㅋ Look at Eunji, IU, and Seo In Guk. They're all good at singing and are even good at acting so they don't get hated on.



    this. Many i netizens blindly judge all knetizen will hate whoever idol who get into acting but in fact there are still many netizen who praise the idol if their acting is good.

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  172. L got casted for a minor role in The suns master and i think he's trying to improve his acting and work his way up.

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  173. sorry to say this but minho should stick in SHINee. idol like him give a bad name for idol actor who can act.

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  174. i give him a pat on his back for putting his two cents out there.

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  175. of course...I agree...I just like him in comedies because at least he gets to smile...sometimes you can watch a whole melodrama and see a character smile maybe once...it's just a waste of good dimples....if you ask me...

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  176. Of course, I don't deny that there's lunatics out there, but it's become painfully obvious in the case of Kpopcalypse and some others in NB who think of Korean netizens as like the online Korean version of the Ku Klutz Klan or Nazi pogroms of the sort, which is a huge stereotype/generalization - up to the point they're not really better than the very people who make very broad negative generalizations to other ethnic groups and nationalities.


    The whole thing about entertainment companies caving into demands of people in the internet, AFAIS, is really over-exaggerated. Sure, it happens, but not up to the extent it holds a tank-sized influence in the showbiz.


    If anything, it's the showbizz itself that's more problematic - after all, they and the media are the ones who created the whole 'perfect idol' image from the get-go, as well as constantly promoting it + it doesn't help that companies as well as the government also constantly try to promote Korea as some sort of perfect haven. K-netz' fury are only a byproduct of all this.

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  177. knetz just never listens

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  178. lol he not cried 24/7 in IMY. he has many scene who need smiling happily. do you really watch IMY until the end?

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  179. As a huge SJS fan, I have watched literally everything he has been in. You maybe thinking he's played those like serious bad boy roles like in Ghost, Company Man, Rough Cut...


    If you watched "EVERYTHING" by him you would know he starred in Sophies Revenge, Delicious Proposal, What Happened in Bali, We Are Dating etc.


    So yes. He can pull off a comedy, romance kind of drama. And this wouldn't be something he hasn't done because he HAS done it.


    Please don't say you've seen everything by him when you don't even know what you're talking about.

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  180. Idols who can't act should stick to music, they really give a bad reputation to the idols who actually CAN act really well. I hate it when people blow off a good drama just because they think if an idol is acting in it its gonna be horrible.

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  181. there also seems to be a big difference between say TV actors and movie actors...Korean TV actors need to tow the line more so to speak....perhaps the problem of public opinion is getting better for people in the entertainment industry...but I can remember reading that Kwon Sang Woo lost quite a bit of money from cancelled endorsement deals due to the fact that he fell in love with the wrong girl...

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  182. he is not A lister.

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  183. what happened in Bali is a comedy...and he wasn't funny in Sophies Choice...or We are Dating...I'm waiting to see...I'm a huge fan...really don't get mad at me...He just does broody pants very well and perhaps way to often...

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  184. Agree!!! they really give bad name for idol act who has talents and can act.

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  185. wow they really just totally ignored what So Ji Sub said lol

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  186. omg what happened in Bali is comedy. lol. please do you really watch that drama?

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  187. OH and BTW I do think he is a much better actor than his best bud...Song Seung Hun...darling man but he is just not good...doesn't mean I won't watch him for 20 hours but the boy really can't act...

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  188. really...ok...is he a b list...

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  189. no but you mentioned comedies and thought you were talking about that..no not exactly a comedy unless you find Jo In Sung hanging on some old guys leg crying a begging funny...which at some point it did get kinda comical...

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  190. Yet, Kwon Sang Woo was able to put himself back up (or at least somewhat). Time heals things, for the most part.


    His issue was largely due that the more crazy side of his fans (aka the vocal minority) made a huge objection and actually slandered Son Taeyoung up to the point it got more numbers from his fanbase.


    Yet, on the other hand, there's cases like Jang Jayeon, who had the public's full support for the investigation of her suicide and circumstances surrounding it (which did not have anything to with insults from netizens, mind you).


    Some fall victim to netizens, but others fall victim to the showbizz itself (and quite possibly, I'd even go as far to say the latter happens far more often and consequences are far more brutal).

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  191. where did i mentioned comedic? what are you talking?

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  192. Are you okay? He is an A list actor.
    Know what you're talking about before you talk.

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  193. Is Jan Jayeon the young woman from the infamous movie with the "trunk scene" the name escapes me right now...

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  194. Yes I know this. It's the fact they judged her before they even gave the drama a chance.

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  195. Are you guys okay? I'm talking about just different genres.... So things where he isn't all badass and serious. Geez.


    If he wasn't a good actor he wouldn't be this famous and an A list actor. LOL like please. You guys don't look very smart right now.

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  196. Exactly! None of them are old! Lee Jong Suk is not even 25 in international age, he's still early 20s then... And Song Joong Gi is young too. Some people here must be 10 to think every actress actor and idol above 20 are old! I'm not even 18 yet but this type of ageist attitude A LOT of people here have gets on my nerves lol


    Anyways, I applaud your comment!

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