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Tuesday, July 16, 2013

Agencies force plastic surgery contracts for debuts


Article: "You have to get plastic surgery in order to debut"... celebrity trainees, the truth behind 'plastic surgery contracts'

Source: E-News via Nate

Report on how contracts will include a plastic surgery clause. Often times, they are shady clauses that only say that the celebrity must undergo celebrity but not where and how they will be compensated if it goes wrong.

Other managers who are against the contracts said, "I can't believe companies still have such contracts in this age. Stars these days will actually be a nuisance to the company by secretly getting work done without telling them."

Journalists met with trainees coming out of auditions and asked what they would do if they had to get plastic surgery in order to debut. They all said 'okay', as long as it wasn't anything severely dangerous. "It's a good thing to become prettier."

A theater major at a college in Seoul said, "I've heard that companies will demand plastic surgery. If you accept that, then you stay. If not, you leave. It's a well accepted fact of the industry."

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1. [+461, -14] Just don't media play about them being goddesses after all that plastic surgery. It's a joke how they all claim to be goddesses and ulzzangs when they look like they have two caterpillars stuck underneath their eyes and highlights on their noses.

2. [+423, -14] The plastic surgery obsession grows with each passing day... Everyone's losing their individual appeal... Face and breast surgeries are so common... I'm so embarrassed of the Korean entertainment industry

3. [+391, -5] No wonder all of the new debuts have the same faces......

4. [+29, -5] SM, are you tickled by this~ We all know Kyuhyun hyung's contract included double eyelid surgery

5. [+22, -1] Singers these days are in panties.. I think leg surgery is popular with boob jobs a given since you get more popular if you show more cleavage... The girls on music programs all look like pub girls..ㅜㅜHow'd it get to this point

6. [+18, -1] I think 98% of girl groups have had work done from double eyelid surgeries to fixing nose bridge curves... No one cares about being unique anymore as long as you're pretty. No one deserves to say anything about 2NE1's faces.

6. [+12, -4] People are so quick to call anyone a plastic surgery monster and then turn around and hate on CL or Minzy all the same... tsk tsk tsk, there's no winning here.

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260 comments:

  1. 6. [+12, -4] People are so quick to call anyone a plastic surgery monster and then turn around and hate on CL or Minzy all the same... tsk tsk tsk, there's no winning here.


    U TELL THEM SISTER

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  2. I think 2ne1 girls are beautiful

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  3. *Internet Hi-Five*! :)

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  4. This horribly reminds me of the rumor that uljjang Do Hweji was signed into CCM, and that KKS promised her he'll debut her as an idol, on the condition (or at least one of them) that she gets another wave of PS.


    So she did, but the results were not what KKS wanted for himself and he practically threw her under the bus.

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  5. lower you beauty standard first then girls dont feel the need to do plastic surgery.throwing words like 'you are ugly' 'why are you even an idol' at them and still expect them to go natural all the way.

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  6. but every time a normal-looking person debuted, people will bash him/her despite of his/her talent... i actually can understand their desperation

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  7. Wow...they are seriously signing their lives away for the chance to be an idol...seems so desperate! : /

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  8. Minzy had surgery???

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  9. Troll? ... Is that you? :)

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  10. And the sad thing is most of them will flop because the industry's too saturated.

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  11. 6. [+12, -4] People are so quick to call anyone a plastic surgery monster and then turn around and hate on CL or Minzy all the same... tsk tsk tsk, there's no winning here.



    Exactly

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  12. *cough* ccm *cough*

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  13. If not then why did they say Minzy in the comment and suggest that Minzy was being made fun of for plastic surgery...?

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  14. no she didnt go check ur self

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  15. Comment #6. NO SHIT!!

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  16. They're saying that knetizens are so quick to hate on girls who get plastic surgery, but they will turn around and also hate on girls who don't get it (CL and Minzy).

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  17. Because Minzy and CL never had surgery they don't fit the standard and are deemed ugly

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  18. another article about plastic surgery.....

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  19. i don't consider minzy ugly though

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  20. "It's a good thing to become prettier."
    true



    but omg i'm still in shock from that jyp girl who got her eyelids done, they did a terrible job

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  21. http://i.imgur.com/deZkFke.jpg

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  22. true...they look to pushed back and scrunchy

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  23. "2. [+423, -14] The plastic surgery obsession grows with each passing day... Everyone's losing their individual appeal... Face and breast surgeries are so common... I'm so embarrassed of the Korean entertainment industry"

    As a Korean here, if there's anything more to be embarrassed about the entertainment industry, it's that there's quite a number of fucked up agencies that should be hammered to oblivion along with all that shady as shit.


    It's even more embarrassing the Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism along with all those agencies they're in bed with use Hallyu to make Korea look like it's some fucking perfect heaven in the planet.

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  24. Journalists met with trainees coming out of auditions and asked what they would do if they had to get plastic surgery in order to debut. They all said 'okay', as long as it wasn't anything severely dangerous. "It's a good thing to become prettier."

    This makes me want to cry!!!! Ugh I wish people could see there's nothing wrong with their looks, SIGH

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  25. It's not that did a terrible job, it's just the swelling from double eyelid surgery takes a while to go down. In a couple of months they should look better.

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  26. Oooh ok thanks for clarifying!

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  27. she just needs to lose a little of that weight imo

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  28. dude ur so funny u should award for that

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  29. 5. [+22, -1] Singers these days are in panties.. I think leg surgery is popular with boob jobs a given since you get more popular if you show more cleavage... The girls on music programs all look like pub girls..ㅜㅜHow'd it get to this point



    Is this netizen seriously asking that question?

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  30. ? I didn't get what the comment was saying at first so I asked a question...calm down...

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  31. yes, the sad thing is she's naturally really beautiful

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  32. This sums up rookie girl groups from 2012 to now

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-bx1vtqG74Sg/UXmvW0GeaKI/AAAAAAAAWo0/bFcFd04rM3w/s400/align.gif

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  33. http://www.puricute.com/answers/247

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  34. CL: "YG [2NE1’s record label] told me to. They told me to get plastic surgery before my debut. I stood up for myself and said "No, I’m not doing it." Like I said before, I love CL, but I still want to be Chaerin. And if I felt like I had to change I would. But I love the natural way I look. I said no and I’m not planning to."

    And in response to this many knetizens called her ugly and told her she should have gotten it done. I'm getting to angry. I need to get off netizen buzz, haha. :)

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  35. but maybe she can't it might just be her body shape, which she can't change

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  36. Does anyone have that video of all the girl groups and boy groups who debuted in...I think it was either 2011 or 2012.

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  37. I just think its so sad especially since some of them don't even end up debuting...

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  38. Just look at the comments at CL's articles, I just pray she doesn't read all that bs

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  39. If she loves the natural way she looks, why does she wear so much makeup to compensate for her natural eyes?

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  40. "4. [+29, -5] SM, are you tickled by this~ We all know Kyuhyun hyung's contract included double eyelid surgery"

    LMAO I can't help but laughing at this....ELF know better that Kyuhyun indeed got double eyelid surgery and it's a well-known fact. And I can't recall SM ever tried to convince people that Kyuhyun is a natural beauty, since it is too obvious the difference between his eyes before debut and after debut. Regardless, I am a fan of Kyuhyun not because of his face but because of his voice.

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  41. she just asking

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  42. She explained that in another article, let me go find it.

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  43. There's actually another article where agencies as well as celebities become brokers for these plastic surgery clinics... So with the customers (idols) they bring to the clinic, they have a share of the profits these clinics get...

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  44. I know she said she doesn't feel safe without heavy eyeliner in her Bazaar interview, which is weird cause if you love~~~ your natural look, you would actually... look like your natural self wouldn't you?

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  45. Heywaitwhatyousaid?July 16, 2013 at 12:57 AM

    The problem is not platic surgery but being forced to...

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  46. YES. Freaking preach~~~

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  47. Sometimes I'm grateful that I'm not Korean or asian and have to worry about having an eyelids surgery or trying to fit their Korean beauty standards....I love kpop but not so much their culture. They are way too shallow for my taste

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  48. "...no one cares about being unique anymore as long as you're pretty. No one deserves to say anything about 2NE1's faces"....."People are so quick to call anyone a plastic surgery monster and then turn around and hate on CL or Minzy all the same...tsk tsk tsk, there's no winning here"

    P.R.E.A.C.H.

    I get that 2NE1 doesn't have this whatever traditional beauty korean males dig, but I find them beautiful all the same....beauty isn't limited to a certain type.

    And while I am annoyed that celebrity status has more to do with the physical appeal than actual talent, let’s actually sit down and ponder on how that came to be. The public doesn’t treat these celebs like their average folks...scratch that, the public doesn’t view these celebrities as “average people” unless it benefits whatever hate they want to spout that day (things like how celebs don’t deserve the right to complain about how hard they have it because they make so much more money than their average peers....well what did you expect?..celebs aren't your normal folk and so drawing comparisons to their average peers is ridiculous.

    Anyways, we judge them physically on a different scale. It’s almost a requirement that a celeb is prettier or better looking than the average person, and it doesn’t matter how talented you are, because despite what some people say, talent apparently isn’t important when that person physically falls below whatever standards the public has set for them.
    And we know that S.Korea is big on specs and appearances amongst themselves.....isn’t it then common sense to think they'd be 100x harsher on celebs?....and even when a celeb does do p.s to get prettier so that netz get off their back, they still get grief.
    Instead of bitching about the plastic surgery celebs get, be aware that it's in direct response to public opinions and change the standards on which you judge these celebs by.

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  49. Yes but CL like any other person does have complexes. She said transform with makeup instead of surgery, so it's fine. Don't read too much into her words.

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  50. literally dal shabet for me

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  51. But why are we acting like 2NE1 is the only girl group in Korea with members that are not considered pretty and are bashed for it?

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  52. And she was one of the more well-known and famous uljjangs who'd been around for quite a while too T____T

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  53. ... Don't read too much into her words? So basically think she's full of crap?


    Maybe I'm different from other people when I expect people to actual be who they say they are, not just talk about it.

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  54. I mean, I'm not close to CL personally. But come on. Objectively. A lot of what the girl has heard from the public for the past 3ish years is that she is ugly (looks-wise). I don't know many people that could have weathered that kind of bullying/negativity and come out more strong and more beautiful. People will always looks for a way to criticize, but I think she an empowering role-model. She's awesome- and only 22.

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  55. but there photoshoped look this pic http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2013/05/01/w020130427725490653344.jpg

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  56. I'm saying is just look at what she said. Don't try and find some deep meaning because you're not going to.

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  57. They're the most notorious for it though

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  58. But people do weather that everyday in the industry and there are other people who haven't gotten surgery other than her as well. At the same time she wears makeup for the same purpose and reason people get plastic surgery, so I'm not really over ecstatic about her denial of PS when she's essentially doing the same thing only a non permanent version.

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  59. getting work done is common.. PS is still acceptable to some extent.. BUT it get worse when celebs undergo multiple surgery and don't stop doing it..

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  60. Basically, there's no actual substance behind her, so just look at the words.

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  61. "Butt" is a troll account though, so don't be too serious in your answers.

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  62. That's a troll account though, so don't be too serious in your answers.

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  63. 1. [+461, -14] Just don't media play about them being goddesses after all that plastic surgery. It's a joke how they all claim to be goddesses and ulzzangs when they look like they have two caterpillars stuck underneath their eyes and highlights on their noses.

    lol this comment is spot on. especially when the idol's surgery is so obvious

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  64. Well duh. She said it as clear as day, she didn't do surgery because she liked the parts of her that people were telling her to get fixed but like any other person she has complexes and instead of getting surgeries to fix them she'll just cover them with makeup. That's it.

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  65. You mean they're more popular so people talk about it more.

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  66. If you do some research nose fillers and some eye jobs are really non-invasive, and sometimes removable. From an idol's perspective you'd almost be crazy to not do the small tweaks if you don't have the security blanket of being SNSD or Big Bang.

    Also, when surgery is mentioned, 90% of the time people say oh, it was better in before pics, and 10% of the time people say it's a job well done. But a lot more often surgery flies under the radar and we don't even notice it..we don't count that in the 10% job well done but it SHOULD count.

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  67. You can love yourself and wear makeup you know. There are many reasons why people wear makeup, sometimes from complexes but other times people just want to transform themselves. Even the most naturally pretty people wear makeup. CL's in the public eye, she has to look presentable. But she's always been saying that there's a line between CL and Chaerin. CL allows her to change her look, to amplify her natural self. But at the end of the day she's still Chaerin and she's proud of that. That's what matters. She's transforming herself, not changing or compensating for the way she looks. Difference.

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  68. Just because my opinions don't match yours, doesn't make me a "troll". Welcome to the real world.

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  69. i've read so many "s/he doesn't have the idol looks". they never gets satisfied on idols.

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  70. poor 2ne1...
    if netizen want to say "ugly" example, they would say CL
    plastic surgery monster, Park bom
    pretty without talent , Sandara
    nothing to say, Minzy
    that's what i get from reading their comments.. tsk tsk tsk... 2ne1

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  71. Minzy and CL is beautiful, but Bom ....................................

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  72. So every woman who wears makeup, which is probably most, don't like their looks? Makeup is fun and meant to enhance someone's look/beauty not change them completely. Her nose is still the same, her eyes are still the same, her lips are still the same.

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  73. Oh, I wish i'd read this before I replied

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  74. But she was told to get double eyelid surgery, then goes to say she loves her natural self but then says she wears eyeliner to compensate for her lack of double eyelids. But if she liked that part of her, why would she fix them with makeup... I don't understand... but you just agreed there is no substance to her just words so I guess it's whatever.

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  75. Butt.. is just a troll account. Check out their profile. They created it just to comment bad things about CL here. I'm seriously not even kidding.

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  76. She said she wears makeup because she doesn't like her eyes... I see nothing wrong with people wearing makeup, I'm just trying to understand why, if she loves her natural self like she says so much, does she put on make up to as she said, compensate for something she supposedly loves.

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  77. i have a friend who auditioned for SM(when they had audtions in the US) and she got accepted. Although she got accepted the only way she could become a trainee is if she had gotten eyelid surgery..

    Fortunately she declined.

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  78. That was shocking. She was never known for her beauty. She was famous and liked for her voice and talent. I never thought she'd get plastic surgery.

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  79. Being Asian myself I know the annoyance in it. My mom would make me use whiting creams all the time. My skin tone is a light tan, yet she'd still want me to use whiting creams. I have double eyelids, I wished I didn't haha.

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  80. and Bom is not a plastic surgery monster.

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  81. She said she's compensating for not having double eyelids though....

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  82. You missed out the part that it's the agencies that also try to enact it as well, even if they don't/shouldn't have to.

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  83. I become a fan flirts before i knew he did PS, nothing changed still part of my bias list.. I liked him for his talent anyways and i also like that he admitted it, for me it also shows acceptance on what he looked like before PS.

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  84. As I told that other person, just cause I have different opinions from you that doesn't make me a troll.. welcome to the real world.

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  85. Damned if you,damned if you don't.

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  86. ikr? and it's great when all the members in a group are natural, just like Wonder girls and T-ara.

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  87. Soyeon just got a nose job.

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  88. Bom and Dara had plastic surgery not Minzy.

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  89. oh my god they make whiting cream? how do they work

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  90. It's cool that your stalking me and all, but as I told you and that other person who's parroting you, differing opinions dear. Learn to accept them, life will be so much easier.

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  91. Oh really? even your mom? I think Asian women are very pretty the way they are....Ga in has monoloid eyes and she is pretty.

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  92. if bom had ps or not but good for her i still fine her pretty if u dont fine her pretty its okay its ur opinan anyaway in korea she get called plastic monster but its okay i support my girl bom and 2ne1

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  93. Why are so many new Troll and Hater accounts made every week here to bash on 2NE1? I really pity those girls, for being the focus of so much hatred.

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  94. Netizen #6..You are one of the logical people in this world. I honestly find this so sad. Why beauty always matter??

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  95. Pls plastic surgery is just as common among non-celebrities, I heard girls get ps for their high school graduation present? Why single out the celebrities, they're part of Korean society too

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  96. unfortunately that's what most people on here think while reading related 2NE1 articles.

    Those people are just the same as people on this website.

    They judge, They hate, They love, etc

    But in reality, they don't speak for the whole country and neither do we.

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  97. What opinions have you express, Troll?

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  98. "if netizen want to say 'ugly' example, they would say CL
    plastic surgery monster, Park bom
    pretty without talent , Sandara
    nothing to say, Minzy"

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  99. Perhaps not a troll then, just a hate account. It's cool to disagree and even better to facilitate opposing discussions, but you don't have to use your words to spread negativity cruelly. Especially on an article like this one. We should empower women who can stand against this kind of industry (telling them they are only beautiful if they look a certain way). We should celebrate people like that. I don't care if you like CLs music or not. *Anyone* who does that should be commended- male, female I don't care. It's okay if you disagree with me- this is just what I think. Peace.

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  100. that's so sad and messed up. It's fine if a grown person decide for his/herself if they want surgery, but giving ultimatum to young kids who only just has a dream is a violation of human rights.

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  101. [+423, -14] The plastic surgery obsession grows with each passing day... Everyone's losing their individual appeal... Face and breast surgeries are so common... I'm so embarrassed of the Korean entertainment industry

    It's because Koreans set their definition of beauty to big eyes, small face, v-shaped chin, tall nose, skinny legs with those huge thigh gaps, so the idols and artists start to stress about their looks and now they are embarrassed? Isn't it ironic? They wanted the 'perfect' face and body, and because no Korean is Barbie, of course they have to remake it with 'plastic'. Don't complain guys, you guys wanted it and they granted your wish.

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  102. So you love yourself? You troll too much. So much unhappiness in your life?

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  103. I am so confused on how these korean stars let their faces heal. It seems the healing process seems so fast. Like naeun form Apink they said she got her nose done, but someone must of spotted her with bandages on her nose or something? I don't get it?

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  104. KNetz will hate you if you got ps and they'll hate you for being ugly...
    Sigh......

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  105. It's so random that this male netizen brought up kyuhyun lol. I guess he's a fanboy and feel aggrieved for kyuhyun?

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  106. With Naeun, she got nose injections/fillers, so you don't need any bandages

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  107. How many new accounts are you going to make "Butt" just to troll this article?

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  108. "1. [+461, -14] Just don't media play about them being goddesses after
    all that plastic surgery. It's a joke how they all claim to be goddesses
    and ulzzangs when they look like they have two caterpillars stuck
    underneath their eyes and highlights on their noses."


    Here we go again with bashing all the females...they aren't the only ones to ps. Lots of boys do too and don't act like they don't.

    "6. [+18, -1] I think 98% of girl groups have had work done from double
    eyelid surgeries to fixing nose bridge curves... No one cares about
    being unique anymore as long as you're pretty. No one deserves to say
    anything about 2NE1's faces."



    "6. [+12, -4] People are so quick to call anyone a plastic surgery
    monster and then turn around and hate on CL or Minzy all the same... tsk
    tsk tsk, there's no winning here."


    Preach! So quick to put someone down WITH talent who may or may not necessarily look appealing or apply to "atypical" standards of beauty. It's not wonder there isn't much talent in music when people have to get ps to look good or have low self esteem issues not looking like some ridiculous ideal beauty that doesn't bring anything to music other than something to look at on stage. It's a shame we rather focus on physical appearances rather than the talent that would else make the music/songs good. It's no wonder ppl with talent and not necessarily attractive people by a general consensus are probably too afraid to even try out or audition somewhere because of the pressures that society has placed upon physical appearances.

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  109. Yeah, and my father too. It was always, grow out your hair, use this or that. Loose weight etc etc. My whole family is image matters, have to dress nice, do well in school, have manners. The pressure honestly took a mental toll on me at times.

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  110. Not a hate account either. Just someone who had an opinion that was coupled with confusion to boot that decided to make it known. I never said anything about her music, so I don't know why you're even bringing it up... It's not really cruelly at all, but okay...? I was just trying to make things clear.


    I think it should be celebrated but at the same time, I don't agree with special snow flaking something when it's really no different. You parade around CL's decision not to get plastic surgery but at the same time she stated her reason for makeup was compensation, now that is the same reason most people get cosmetic PS, they don't like something about themselves so they change it. Don't really see a difference, maybe also I don't think people who get PS should feel inferior to others also. I don't like when people merely talk about something, but don't represent that. And that's what I feel from her statement. You can take it as hate all day, I really don't care, but I don't do faux-empowerment.

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  111. natural 2ne1 is the best 2ne1, they are pretty even without makeup.

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  112. Bom is pretty but she just went a little overboard trying to be perfect. Also don't forget that her face gets swollen once in a while because of her condition.

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  113. He has created multiple new accounts just to comment on this article. "anon" up above is another of them.

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  114. Obviously you love me since you keep stalking me.

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  115. tldr, another Troll account exposed. Better luck next time.

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  116. Even if she does, she doesn't give a shit anyways. lol

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  117. I can't believe that CL and Seobaby are the same age.

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  118. Dara doesn't have plastic surgery

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  119. This is another new Troll account by "Butt". Just don't respond.

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  120. 6. [+12, -4] People are so quick to call anyone a plastic surgery monster and then turn around and hate on CL or Minzy all the same... tsk tsk tsk, there's no winning here.

    IS THIS CHURCH, BECAUSE SHE IS PREACHING RIGHT NOW

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  121. tl;dr and incessant stalker who can't face reality.

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  122. I always wonder where these photos were taken. They look like they just wokeup.

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  123. kyu looks better withe double eye-lids anyway
    and I already accepted the fact of how common this surgery is, it's as common as a haircut there lol

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  124. I'm a she and this is my only account but it's nice you're so obsessed with me.

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  125. Okay I get the comestic fillers of the nose. I think this video helps.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T6YQxeQ00hc#at=140

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  126. I jut think that some idols are naturally pretty because talent agencies rather go for the look than the talent. Plastic surgery is only considered to fit more to the media and public eye. People are already pretty but a bit of work won't hurt as it diffentiate themselves from others.

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  127. 5. [+22, -1] Singers these days are in panties.. I think leg surgery is popular with boob jobs a given since you get more popular if you show more cleavage... The girls on music programs all look like pub girls..ㅜㅜHow'd it get to this point

    It got to this point because when they're cute you rag on them and tell them to act their age. When they're classy you say they're boring. If they do one concept, they're copying someone else. It got to this point because you tell these girl/guy groups that they're not good enough, regardless of their talent. When they do sexy, their albums sell, so why not ask the people buying them when they're sexy as opposed to when they're anything but?

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  128. Sigh. You're obviously someone with a ten year old mentality. Bye, stalker.


    Have fun obsessing over my comments.

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  129. Aish why do they hve to mention my girls? Look what happened here.

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  130. I love how CL is so charming, and looks like she has gotten so comfortable in her skin. I really enjoyed how she looked in her recent comeback. And even in 2ne1 'falling in love' she looked great. When somebody is comfortable in their own skin, you can tell, and they start to really look more beautiful in your eyes.

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  131. i am glad i come from a country where beauty standard means natural. no matter how beauty you are, if you get it from plastic surgery, people will consider it as ugly.
    i think i cant live in korea if their beauty standard means pale skin, high nose bridge, double eyelids, big eyes, v chin. they might consider me as a total ugly for not having those criteria.

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  132. People seem to love talking about the female idols, but male idols do it just as much if not more.

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  133. i get it about the caterpillar eyes. everyone and their mother gets aegyo fat implants these days. used to be more discreet and unique before everyone jumped on board (like every trend in korea.)

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  134. Idols sometimes get surgery done on their vacation time that way they're away from the public eye long enough for them to heal.

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  135. This is bad, by doing this the agencies are killing the physical individuality of the people they recuit.



    Ah why do they pick on the girls like that? the boys have Ps just as much!

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  136. This is definitely true. My sisters friend was going to become a trainee and they said not to take any photos of them now because they'll be having plastic surgery :S

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  137. they do and they advertise it like crazy here

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  138. agencies enforce it because that's what the public wants. If it wasn't a popular public opinion (that celebs need to look good) then agencies wouldn't be wasting money/time there.

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  139. LMAO.Those netizens still always shit on Hyorin face.

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  140. they are the only relevant group

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  141. Not connected with the article, just the K-netizen comments...


    Whether or not a person gets a plastic surgery... He/She will always be hated.
    When you don't get one, netizens will say all kinds of mean things that can shatter one person in terms of physical looks.
    When you do get one, they'll all get jealous and say all kind of insults and hail you as a plastic surgery monster.


    Most of the girls in there, I think, were insecure about all these comments. It's the netizens that drive their own people to those things in the end. For example is CL, she was always called ugly in every article even if the article doesn't say much about what she looks like... Now, if you'll see, her eyeliner is so thick so she can hide all those insecurities that these netizen monsters are all doing to her.


    Even if this is all negative dump, it also has something to say on how their society views beauty. It's a sad, sad thing.

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  142. Because she is also affected by negative opinions. They're not gods. They're humans.

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  143. Let Minzy be great!

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  144. and u never put make up on ur face? U going with clothes too not naked ... gosh

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  145. so true.A lot of popular male idols did p.s but didnt get shit..

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  146. I always laugh at JYP and YG stans who keep saying that their company dont encourage their idols to do plastic surgery.
    GD?JUN.K?Park Jimin?Bom?Lee Hi?

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  147. Is that a serious question right here cause...LOL I'm not a model nor an artist and I haven't done any PS but i wear make up to go at work and going out cause as a girl I like to be pretty

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  148. Fact is everyone goes through that awkward phase whereby you don't necessarily look your best. And I bet these agencies know that but rather than letting those kids grow up and learn how to groom themselves as they mature, they'd rather feed the pockets of the numerous plastic surgery clinics trying to survive. I bet they know some kids don't need them but they'd brainwash them into getting the simplest surgery done - business connection.

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  149. 3. [+391, -5] No wonder all of the new debuts have the same faces......


    This 100% and not just for idols, but for actresses as well. You watch dramas and it's like you're seeing the same nose/chin/eyes looking at you with a lack of movement in the rest of the face.

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  150. I remember how Gyuri said that before DSP another agency wanted to sign her, but they wanted her to have some plastic surgery before allowing her to debut. Even though they would have only been 'minor' procedures she turned them down because in her own words "I wanted to be loved exactly the way I am."

    More people need to have this sort of mentality and confidence within themselves and not let other people dictate how they should look! You need to believe in yourself before others do too.

    And the problem with giving people so much power is that, there will ALWAYS BE someone who finds you unattractive or ugly so you will never be able to please everyone anyways.

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  151. Is the Sistar mod in league with new Troll account?! What is going on here?

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  152. I think Trolls are full of crap.

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  153. Substance. Good topic. I actually worry about the mental health of trolls. Their lack of substance in life sends them causes them to act out in unhealthy ways.

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  154. Well any trolls who aren't posting naked right now are hypocrites.

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  155. This is REALLY off-topic, but Dispatch is having a photo exhibition with all their paparazzi pictures of celebrities, and celebrity couples.

    And apparently they're going to have pics of GD. Does anyone know if NB will translate, or already translated this??

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  156. We are alike, Mr. Butt, you and I, we struggle to understand. I'm trying to understand what goes through trolls minds. I ponder this.

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  157. Dara nvr had plastic surgery cuz she have the exact same beauty that she has now since she entered the entertainment industry in philippines....

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  158. Yes...and every time a "normal" face debuts they claim that "it's not a face of a celebrity"

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  159. And she looks exactly the same as she did when she was 6 (old family photos) haha. Not hating on Dara- she just has a timeless beauty. Plus, she and her brother look so much alike.

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  160. i laugh so hard seeing kyuhyun's name in the comment...XD
    i think it is ok as long as it didn't change entirely their face or really look weird/different...but,isn't kyuhyun get double eyelid before he was cast into sm?

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  161. lol this and rainbow in their debut

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  162. Plastic surgery should be done for one or two things that really annoy you about your body or face.It's not plastic surgery that's the evil here,it's the idea that you NEED IT in order to be accepted and to be ''prettier''.

    I get double eyelids,I really do.But boob jobs and nose jobs??Why you'd have nose surgery when your nose is straight and functional is beyond me.

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  163. people are also quick to completely dismiss the talents of anyone with typical beauty or obvious PS. Getting PS does not take away any other talent or virtue they have.

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  164. not really...hyorin, iu (before her dramatic weight loss), ock joo hyun, daesung, niel, eunji (before 1997)...I'm sure theres more.

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  165. 6. [+18, -1] I think 98% of girl groups have had work done from double
    eyelid surgeries to fixing nose bridge curves... No one cares about
    being unique anymore as long as you're pretty. No one deserves to say
    anything about 2NE1's faces.



    6. [+12, -4] People are so quick to call anyone a plastic surgery
    monster and then turn around and hate on CL or Minzy all the same... tsk
    tsk tsk, there's no winning here.



    I agree!

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  166. Idols nowadays are being churned out so quick you can hardly keep up. The fact that they all look the same, with big twinkling eyes (with double eyelids no less), high nose bridges, small mouths and V-line jaw - it's like robots being mass produced. I understand that there's a standard to K-beauty like double eyelids, V-line etc but I think there is a need for balance to maintain their true self and also surgeries.

    Kyuhyun and UEE's eyes; as well Kim Hyun Joong and Na Eun's nose are among examples of good PS done sparingly.

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  167. not the same thing at all. at the end of the day the makeup washes off. the surgery doesn't...and never will. where is the comparison? does it say anything for celebs who get tons of plastic surgery yet still wear makeup? this is too easy.

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  168. No. There are way more male idols who still have their double eyelids than female idols. They do ps too but definitely not as much.

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  169. OfficialKARALoverJuly 16, 2013 at 5:42 AM

    im about to post this thank You

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  170. But the thing is... the reason why people and companies are utilising plastic surgery is because of the standard that Koreans put on their own people. If you want to be famous and recognised as a star, you need to have immense talent in your field or be beautiful. I know many rookie idols and rookie actresses are very talented but if they don't have a large company backing them or a REALLY amazing debut, they will get criticised for their "lack of" talent and most netizens will throw in an insult to their looks too. In my opinion, plastic surgery should only be an option if there's something hindering your everyday life, e.g.: jaw is misaligned making speech difficult.

    It's hard to win in a society that criticises everything. If you're not pretty but talented, you are criticised. If you're pretty but not talented, you are criticised. If you're pretty AND talented, you're still criticised about SOMETHING. Whether it be your company, your drama, your song, your make-up, where you come from, past photos, past mistakes, one aspect of your body, the way you talk, your opinions, losing weight, gaining weight, people you interact with...

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  171. Jenizz | pinkcrownJuly 16, 2013 at 5:53 AM

    #6&#7 !!!!!
    Yaaaay! MY. THOUGHTS. EXACTLY.
    No more words needed.

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  172. DES may not be as many, but a lot get their nose done and their chin/jaw refined.

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  173. 6. [+12, -4] People are so quick to call anyone a plastic surgery monster and then turn around and hate on CL or Minzy all the same... tsk tsk tsk, there's no winning here.



    THANK YOU

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  174. It's simply because most of these girl groups can't sing. Since they have no talent, the public will criticize or ignore them UNLESS they look perfect.

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  175. A lot doesn't mean all. There's less surgery among the top boybands, it's more rookies/nugus who do it

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  176. I don't think they really work. I'm Asian too, and they advertise it like hell over here. Basically all the ads involve a pretty girl, frowning and covered in darkening makeup, and then the next scene she's smiling, her hair is done nicely and she's covered in whitening makeup.
    Sorry, went off-topic. I think they do whiten your skin, but it's more like an artificial layer of white, and in a couple of hours it fades or washes off and you look the same as you did before.

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  177. You can't ever win with knetizens tbh,

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  178. in their latest MV her lips are swelling from botox imo, hopefully it will go away, she better not be addicted to it or something :/

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  179. 2. [+423, -14] The plastic surgery obsession grows with each passing day... Everyone's losing their individual appeal... Face and breast surgeries are so common... I'm so embarrassed of the Korean entertainment industry

    What i'm afraid more is how ps surgery can affects someone's self esteem.you will think that you are least beautiful than others then opt to get more ps.instead of changing how you look why dont try changing how you think.

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  180. WTF? Lee Hi and GD didn't do anything...

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  181. 2. [+423, -14] The plastic surgery obsession grows with each passing day... Everyone's losing their individual appeal... Face and breast surgeries are so common... I'm so embarrassed of the Korean entertainment industry

    3. [+391, -5] No wonder all of the new debuts have the same faces......

    Yeah, and sometime they said to some celebrities "they don't have face of celebrity at all". Or some of knets attacked CL, minzy, hyoyeon, sooyoung, etc because those celebrities didn't reach their standart of beauty.

    Personally i think CL, minzy, hyoyeon, sooyoung beautiful when they used right cloths and makeup. Because sometimes their cloths and makeup made something off, not because their face itself.

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  182. 4. [+29, -5] SM, are you tickled by this~ We all know Kyuhyun hyung's contract included double eyelid surgery

    WTH ? it looks like a personal attack.
    but in Kyuhyun's defense if ou look at his past photos his eyes were pratically closed and really weird so yeah i understand why he did PS and i'm glad he did it because honestly it would have been such a shame to miss his beautiful voice just because he wouldn't have been able to debut without PS.
    they are bashing them saying they are superficial but if "ugly" people debut in this industry, they are ignored as artists and bashed more.
    why do you think Park Bom got PS ? obviously she was not satisfied with her image and it's obviously netizens' fault for constantly calling 2ne1 ugly as soon as they debuted !
    just look at the comments saying that some actors/actresses have not the faces to go into acting.

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  183. i would have said Daesung though

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  184. Bom did it before was that rule she did not debuted yet, and GD not Lee hi have PS

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  185. daesungmdid not have PS he only gained muscle

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  186. actually they called Park Bom ugly before 2ne1 debut, when she fetured we belong together and forever with u with Bigbang

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  187. This ^
    PS won't die, the next gen beauties will be expected to 1 up the previous.
    I think genetic modification is the only way PS will fade away, but the moral argument will still be there.

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  188. 4. [+29, -5] SM, are you tickled by this~ We all know Kyuhyun hyung's contract included double eyelid surgery

    lol who cares ? it made him gorgeous. it's just a plus to his amazing voice ♥ bash all you want, "hyung" is a talented singer at the end.

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  189. this one maybe? they caught him when he was hanging out w/ his friends in abgujeong.

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