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Tuesday, May 14, 2013

Viewers demand Hyosung to be edited out of 'Infinity Challenge'


Article: "Edit Jun Hyosung out"... Influx of posts on Infinity Challenge message boards

Source: TV Report via Naver

1. [+309, -36] The T-ara train has arrived.

2. [+252, -19] I would've understood if she used another ilbe word like 'unji' and said she didn't know what it meant, but democratize has a meaning on its own so it's hard to believe that she really used it in that context without knowing what it meant? How could she be 25 years old and not know what it means unless she's utterly stupid?

3. [+268, -35] And another idol has left us today

4. [+203, -18] Don't call it a mistake. How can you be 25 and not know what democratize means? Even elementary school students wouldn't use the word in that context.

5. [+138, -16] Yeah, edit her out of IC... I don't want to watch some 25 year old who doesn't even know what democratize means.

6. [+105, -11] Whether or not she's ilbe trash, the fact that she used the word in a negative context means she's in the wrong.

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Article: "Edit Jun Hyosung out"... Influx of posts on Infinity Challenge message boards

Source: TV Report via Nate

1. [+121, -54] Gotta watch that mouth whether you're asleep or awake

2. [+124, -74] Bye...

3. [+106, -77] Never crawl back out again. Now that I know you're an ilbe trash, just seeing your face gives me goose bumps.

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352 comments:

  1. Disturbing how quickly netizens' opinions of people change overnight.

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  2. Feel bad for her, but they do have a point. How ignorant does one have to be to get through 25 years of life without picking up on the meaning of democracy.

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  3. is it reeally that deep?

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  4. Just goes to show how little effort it takes to ruin your image.

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  5. Oh god poor thing.. though i dont really understand what is happening

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  6. now i know why my teachers always said dont play with politic words..

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  7. This escalated so quickly... I mean 6 hours ago she was in the radio station and now she is losing her job

    That is just scary

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  8. just for ONE F&*%ING WORD!!! will be the end of your career... ONLY IN KOREA i guess

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  9. ouch. netizens are so harsh xD

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  10. this issue deserves an award for being the silliest way to tank one's career.

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  11. Hyosung... Hopefully this will be blow over eventually.

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  12. It's like watching a train wreck, and I can't look away..

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  13. wat???? srsly i cannot understand knetizen!!

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  14. As it has been said countless times, these are NOT the same people who commented about liking her or such.

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  15. Wow.
    They'll turn on you that fast...

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  16. 1. [+121, -54] Gotta watch that mouth whether you're asleep or awake



    This is every idols life..I swear I feel so bad for them...Not only do they need to watch their mouth but also every movement they make...I am not saying what she said wasn't wrong but in general Korea really does give their idols a very hard time..

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  17. It's not opinions change overnight more like how getting associated with ilbe will change ur career in a minute

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  18. :((((( Geez .. She already apologized on her twitter.

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  19. "4. [+203, -18] Don't call it a mistake. How can you be 25 and not know what democratize means? Even elementary school students wouldn't use the word in that context. "


    Really? I doubt some of them even know what that word means. KNets, just stop. You're making yourself look like a fool.

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  20. what a bunch of butthurts. cry some more, pussies

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  21. everyone makes mistakes... i know she was wrong to hurt Korea's history WITHOUT ANY INTENTIONS, but can't people forgive or just not care about her anymore? why hate over that? it just make everything worse ~o~
    i bet if Wonbin used it without intentions, they will shield him saying he really didn't know it and that journalist are haters...

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  22. Netizens never forgive, never forget,

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  23. i wanna see this episode

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  24. and their goes another idol you will be missed!

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  25. This is what is wrong with a conservative country. Just saying the 'wrong' words and they are out to get you. Sad life celebrities have

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  26. yeap i agree to y'all..
    in korea one word can make the years of cow-level training, years of trying to make a name for ur group, years of getting a good image and a memorable one, possibly painful plastic surgery, and not to mention hardcore diet to lose weight goes down the drain.
    hyosung, keep the faith.

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  27. 3. [+106, -77] Never crawl back out again. Now that I know you're an ilbe trash, just seeing your face gives me goose bumps.
    ~~~> It's not even proven that she's an ilbe whatever. :(((

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  28. Koreans, that's what happened

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  29. T-ara T-ara T-ara why K-netizens allway bring T-ara in? I REALLY HATE K-NETIZENS

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  30. I think the policy ''Think before you speak'' applies here the netizen's will never let this go idol should really be more careful because netizens are always waiting for them to mess up so they can have a reason to hate them forever

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  31. ouch.. poor hyosung and secret, they will be the next t-ara.. i bet we will heard about hyosung past life in news after this..

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  32. I guess Hyosung's image is completely tarnished now.

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  33. Im sure the people bad mouthing her are not fans at all and had no idea who she was before this. HATERS GONNA HATE!
    Real fans will accept her apology...

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  34. And people wonder why the suicide rates are so high in SK.
    First you tell Hyosung that her is existence is measured ONLY by the size of her chest. Then, after one mistake, you attempt to bully her out of an industry that is her only source of income.

    I don't know whether or not she knew the true meaning & origin of the word she used or not but either way, this witch hunt mentality that flares up whenever someone makes a mistake is scary & wrong.

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  35. Poor her.. she might be a complete idiot about politics & used the word in a wrong context....
    Not everyone is interested in politics...

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  36. That's just scary how fast K-netizens turned on her......

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  37. lol why do you guys keep using wonbin as an example. the main reason why netizens never have anything bad to say about him is because he doesn't give them the chance. Dude is never on shows and never gives interviews.

    It's quite simple.. the more you say or appear in public, the more there is for netizens to pick on. That's why idols are always under more scrutiny. They are much more present in the media than other celebs (other than gagmen/MCs/etc.. but those get a benefit of doubt for being 'comedians' and are allowed to be more crude)

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  38. Don't these knets have bigger things to worry about like their Starcraft rankings and their plastic surgery appointments?

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  39. So do you think it's fair to end someone's career over one wrong word? Democracy is good but it turns ugly when people miss using it. Like this case.

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  40. Just the other day I was complaining to my friends that 99% of articles involving Hyosung are always about her body. Guess I was wrong :(

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  41. It would be nice if for once the studios were like "We don't believe in editing someone out just because of one mistake, if all entertainers were banished from the media for making a mistake we would have no entertainers. Since this idol special focused on educating our youth on Korea's history, what better platform is there for them to learn another aspect of our history. We feel its better to educate than to outcast and as a result have to decided to air the show as scheduled."




    ...or maybe "the last time we checked, netizens aren't producers and most bullying of entertainers come from online. So unless you're going to outcast yourself from the internet for your spiteful mean comments, don't ask us to outcast our entertainers for making mistakes. Buh Bye"

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  42. I doubt it, as much as he is loved, they wouldn't excuse something like this.

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  43. not just idols, but celebrity and public figure in general. it's scary tho how they're being exposed like that, and how they have to really watch their smallest action.

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  44. and yet another witch hunt begins.

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  45. It could be though.. I've seen older people who don't know or care about politics at all.

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  46. LOL. Why are you getting Won Bin into this? -_-

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  47. There it goes ~
    At least you don't have to worry about your chest..
    I feel sorry for the other members of SECRET...

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  48. i think we/they cant bring her into t-ara's train. this case more like jaybum's case (maybe, idk not sure)

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  49. if this kind of thing happen, i think pig will fly...

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  50. Well she was on a radio show you would think she would watch her mouth it's not like she was having a private conversation with someone.and isent that the life of every public figure?

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  51. I think people who have no idea should check the previous article about this.

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  52. As if this people like Hyosung for her talent. They only see her boobs and bitching when she lost weight. And now they want to end her career over one mistake? They said that ilbe is a trash in society don't think they aren't one? Netizens might not be as bad as ilbe but whenever one or two things goes wrong they all moaning "Finish her/his career!!!" "Take her/him off broadcast!!" Witch hunting has become a norm.

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  53. Nothing will happen. She's viewed as nothing more than a sex object anyway. Men will still love her for her assets.

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  54. I think I fans will have a hard time understanding this one just cause they don't know to the extent of what the ilbe community is like and literally there is a secret war between ilbe and everyone else on the Internet in Korea. The other one is she's just stupid either way is not very helpful for her image

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  55. the scary part is how some of these people seem to rejoice in the fact that this is probably going to end her career and hunt her forever. Why does seeing another person suffer give them that much happiness?

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  56. knets nothing less than a crocs under the bridge waiting people to fall from it.

    one false move and you ended up battered..

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  57. No, of course not. But if you say something stupid, it's only fair people can call you out on it. I think in this case though, people are more upset about her using the word in Ilbe context, not just using the wrong word.

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  58. Just because of ONE F***ing WORD. Hyosung is now losing her job, her dreams and she's gaining a lot of hate. K-Netizens, please be openminded. She even apologized on her twitter.
    :((( Now I know how hard it is to be an Idol. You have to watch what's coming out from your mouth, every move that you will do etc.
    Be strong Hyosung ! I will support you and SECRET no matter what.

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  59. May 18th, Gwangju Democratic Movement
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwangju_massacre

    Infinity Challenge is going to air on May 18th
    about teaching history to idols

    hyosung used word 'democratize' negatively
    and ilbe bugs use this word for ridiculing Gwangju massacre victims

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  60. but is not her fault that facist ilbe trash gave their own dumb meanig to the word "democracy" i mean wtf ? how would anyone who isn't in that shitty place think of democracy as something negative

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  61. What I think is the worst is TS is a small company their first artists being Tara so if secret starts getting the Tara treatment I highly doubt TS will be Abe to handle it. also hyosung is one of the most popular members its a huge hit to secret. And BAP are also not on that superstar level yet. Unlike Tara where Kks has been in the industry for year and has many back door connections to producers hence despite a huge scandal Tara was still allowed to go TV.

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  62. They'd probably plot and scheme to ruin the producers' livelihoods in the event that this happens.

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  63. I really wish no I'm praying that the things they are doing right now will happened to them someday.

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  64. Just goes to show that you should always think before you speak...

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  65. It is fair for people to tell her off because she made a mistake. However they are behaving like a spoiled child, demanding people to get taken off broadcast whenever something went wrong. If pd comply with their demand I highly doubt they will stop at this. The next thing they want is her to get kick out from the group.

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  66. what's sad is that male celebrities in general have said much worse than this and get away scot-free or without having to do any apology whatsoever while she only let out one wrong word and apologized for it and the netizen army is after her.

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  67. I don't fucking see why she is getting all the fucking hate over one fucking word. GOSH FUCK YOU K NETIZENS. JUST LEAVE HER ALONE..SHE WAS IGNORANT YES..SHE DIDNT KNOW WHAT THE WORD MEANT. YES. SHE APOLOGIZED. GOSH. FUCK. SO PISSED.

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  68. “Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you. ”
    ― Pericles

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  69. May 18th, Gwangju Democratic Movement
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwangju_massacre

    Infinity Challenge is going to air on May 18th
    about teaching history to idols

    hyosung used word 'democratize' negatively
    and ilbe bugs use this word for ridiculing Gwangju massacre victims

    this is why viewers are upset

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  70. No they wouldn't, they would have been harsher on a male celebrity than a female celebrity exactly because they have to serve in the military

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  71. I still don't understand what was so wrong with saying democratize. Can a Korean explain?

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  72. It's not her fault but she should have used it in that context or she's stupid her whole statement is a contradiction.

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  73. She even apologized on twitter? Lol is that supposed to be a big deal? She has to have a press conference apologizing and then doing charity work for a democratic association and reflect for a while if this is going to ever blow over

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  74. i'm kinda curious to Ilbe's reaction to this.. :x

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  75. another user explained it in the previous post is because ilbe trash gave the word a negative connotation so she's being accused of being an ilbe member for using it .

    "thewanderer • 2 hours ago
    For those of you who doesn't quiet get what ilbe is... It's the website like "trashy atmosphere of 4chan + extreme delusional political right wingers"............... One of the major problem is that they are distorting a modern history which is.. They even consider "5.18 Gwangju Massacre" as a just riot suppression... Even when all normal people in Korea think it was "Democratic Movement" against military government dictator Jun Doo Hwan.. And that caused huge massacre which is more than 4000 innocent people got killed by military force.. It was bloodbath, and now ilbe-users are still worshipping him and give nickname to this mass-murder dictator "Jun-TTanks:전땅크" meaning it was justified thing to trample innocent civilian with tanks.. So that's why people from Gwangju are extremely sensitive about delusional right wingers in Korea..

    See more information about that incident:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    I'm not sure she actually knew that expression term "democratize:민주화" is being used by ilbe-users in a such a negative way which is very wrong.. Term "democracy:민주주의" should be good meaning for common sense, but ilbe-users are being sarcastic to make it in a bad meaning term.. now "democratize someone or something:민주화시키다" with "-tize:시키다" or "-tized : 민주화되었다" became a symbol of unique expression term that only ilbe uses... It is very hard to believe whether she uses ilbe since they have extremely rough atmosphere.. but the way she talked is hard to ignore as a mistake, because it just sounds exactly like ilbe user which most of people don't say like that... This is why this whole thing is being huge controversy.. I hope you guys understand the situation thoroughly..."

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  76. I wonder how this is going to affect bap being in the same company. Yoona got backlash just for taking to t-ara at the dream concert, but bap and secret are close. You know the saying when u hang out with trash you start to smell.

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  77. this DELUSION right now, it usually takes illegal shit for a male celeb to be hated. nichkhun was perfect angel until his drunk driving shit exposed him and he's still doing fine cause his fangirls will shield him. g-dragon has been in tons of shit and he's still doing fine because of his fangirls.


    male celebrities wouldn't get hate if they didn't go around parading about how sad it is to go into military or evade duty instead of quietly enlisting and generally keeping their mouths shout. then come out months later bragging like they went through hell when they get tons of off days and just 'perform'.

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  78. Yes exactly I remember back when jo in sung guested on the go show he received backlash bc he came out as being too cocky and he like wonbin had this secret air to him but with that guesting his secretive air totally vanished. No wonder wonbin stays away from variety and interviews,

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  79. Nah, I'd say Hyosung's situation is a lot worse. By using the word 'democratize' in the wrong context, she is associating herself with a group of people that disrespect Korean history. While Jay Park did complain about hating Koreans/Korean life, Hyosung's comment makes it look like she is part of the trash community on Ilbe, and it makes her look stupid, ignorant, and uneducated.

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  80. you're trying way too hard

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  81. Do you expect her to see doing charity work at this time(1AM KST) ?

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  82. knetizens have a point, she's old enough to know what democratize means and if she uses that word in a different context then she's either stupid, an ilbe, or both. as for censoring her i think thats too much since it really doesnt accomplish anything.

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  83. i feel sorry for her ....T-ara had their interntional fans and even their local ...but secret doesn't have anything ...

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  84. This is like another Jay Park story in a different note. Let's just wait a few more days, weeks, months or years till their hate subsides. I know one day they'll gonna change their minds just like how they change their view to Jay.

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  85. It's also a delusion to think that male celebrities always have it easier than female celebrities.

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  86. real niggaaa wassupMay 14, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    Imma use that copy + paste and copy over what someone said in the previous article.

    From guest:
    Some background information:

    In south korea there is a group of people claiming that the country shouldn't have been democratized and should just have remained an autocratic state with an military dictator. They even think that north korea made south korea democratized in order to mess up south korean society. Ilbe is a website where those kind of people gather.

    Ilbe users distorted the use of the term 'to democratize' to 'to oppress people's freedom' because they think democracy is a bad thing. The majority of south korean think Ilbe users are making fun of blood and deaths of many people sacrificed during korean democratization by distorting the meaning of the word. And Hyosung, while I can't tell she did on purpose or not knowing, used the term in the exact way Ilbe users do.

    Of course I understand outside of south korea it must be hard to understand why korean netizens are so upset about her words. But this is not just hatred toward idol celebrities, but a problem related to history and political background.

    From ha:
    and ilbe and hyosung use it grammatically incorrectly. only ilbe users use word democratization like this '민주화시키다'.

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  87. lol. Was about to associate that here. The hate on Jay was no joke, really. Some KNetizens, all in all, are just cruel in every context.

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  88. the bitter ....T-ara are now in the U.S.....and netizens are eating shit

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  89. Obviously not smart aleck.

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  90. Personally, I think Hyosung's situation is a lot worse. By using the term 'democratize' in the wrong context, she's associating herself with a crowd of people that disrespect Korean history, and to me, that's a lot worse than being an American citizen and having difficulty adjusting to life as an idol.

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  91. wtf is going on wtf is ilbe

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  92. You seem to really enjoy Hyosung getting hate, ain't you?

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  93. Considering how they haven't let the jay thing go yet, that's not much to look forward to.

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  94. The best comment on this article...and could be used for many other articles. I don't know why people don't get this. It's the same with certain celebs in the American (and British) media. If they don't live in Hollywood, if they rarely give interviews, if you only see them when they are working, the media and netizens could care less. They are considered "boring".

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  95. to me what she meant is that their group values indibiduality so not all the members should have the same activities for example, if someone's good at acting then said member should get more acting oportunities or variety etc. it might be worded in a stupid way but the thing is that she's actually being acused of actually being a member of ilbe. :S

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  96. "Harsher because they have to serve in the military"
    This statement doesn't really make any sense.
    Like what anon said, the only time when male celebrities take a big hit is getting it easy in the military. Why? Because conscription is something close to the Koreans' heart and you see guys who do not usually comment on articles saying something against the male celebs too. Usually they aren't interested to pick a fight with the fangirls and their oppa (thats why such scandals die down so quickly) but the military scandal was something

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  97. Jay Park One Sentence, IU One Picture, Hyosung One Word. How little it takes to ruin/tarnish a career you've build for years *Sigh*

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  98. Delusion? No it's not. Usually, a male Ilbe user gets MUCH more hate than a female Ilbe user. If it was a male idol, then I'm 100% sure that the idol would've suffered much worse bashing than Hyosung.

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  99. scum of korea like /b/ on 4chan like worse than your regular vile netizen

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  100. I honestly don't have anything against hyosung but after taking a year if poly sci classes regarding to democracy it's painfuly obvious her whole statement is a contradictions and makes no logical sense and I mean how stupid or clueless do you have to be to not know what democracy means or is especially coming froma country who had a whole friggin over it not to mention that it's still ongoing. Think before you speak applies very well here.

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  101. Unlike T-ara she does not deserve this hate...

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  102. it's sad... but this is true though: 2. [+252, -19] I would've understood if she used another ilbe word like 'unji' and said she didn't know what it meant, but democratize has a meaning on its own so it's hard to believe that she really used it in that context without knowing what it meant? How could she be 25 years old and not know what it means unless she's utterly stupid?

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  103. i'm sorry but the t-ara train joke is hilarious

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  104. Wow. Netizens so classy.

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  105. how ironic. she made a comment about being unlike t-ara yet now she is hated like the same level as them. bye hyosung.

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  106. it has more to do with the fact that a lot of knetizens lead batshit miserable lives so if they can take anyone down with them, they will.

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  107. they love her, calling her a goddess and such

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  108. Only in Korea.
    I repeat, only in Korea.
    lawls.

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  109. u didnt read that comment above didnt u? ill copy and paste"thewanderer • 2 hours ago

    For those of you who doesn't quiet get what ilbe is... It's the website like "trashy atmosphere of 4chan + extreme delusional political right wingers"............... One of the major problem is that they are distorting a modern history which is.. They even consider "5.18 Gwangju Massacre" as a just riot suppression... Even when all normal people in Korea think it was "Democratic Movement" against military government dictator Jun Doo Hwan.. And that caused huge massacre which is more than 4000 innocent people got killed by military force.. It was bloodbath, and now ilbe-users are still worshipping him and give nickname to this mass-murder dictator "Jun-TTanks:전땅크" meaning it was justified thing to trample innocent civilian with tanks.. So that's why people from Gwangju are extremely sensitive about delusional right wingers in Korea..

    See more information about that incident:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    I'm not sure she actually knew that expression term "democratize:민주화" is being used by ilbe-users in a such a negative way which is very wrong.. Term "democracy:민주주의" should be good meaning for common sense, but ilbe-users are being sarcastic to make it in a bad meaning term.. now "democratize someone or something:민주화시키다" with "-tize:시키다" or "-tized : 민주화되었다" became a symbol of unique expression term that only ilbe uses... It is very hard to believe whether she uses ilbe since they have extremely rough atmosphere.. but the way she talked is hard to ignore as a mistake, because it just sounds exactly like ilbe user which most of people don't say like that... This is why this whole thing is being huge controversy.. I hope you guys understand the situation thoroughly..."

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  110. real niggaaa wassupMay 14, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    Imma still use that copy and paste. As someone said in the earlier article:

    From qietyx:
    ilbe users are praising Secret & Hyosung as "patriotic idol"
    http://www.ilbe.com/ilbe

    they are buying Secret's albums & songs madly.

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  111. Judging a person only from a sentence they said is also unwise, don't you think?

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  112. do u even kno from the k-netizens perspective?
    you shud try being openminded too


    nevertheless, she has hope since even people like baek ji young was able to jump back after a huge scandal

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  113. Whether she's an ilbe user or not, she's just plain stupid. She better watch her mouth next time (if she could pass this controversy)

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  114. This is like saying to fire a guy for being on 4chan or something lol

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  115. The world is cruel. Though I get the point that Hyosung just kept running her mouth with this. She KNOWS compared to us that she's always in public broadcast why did she do this? She was seriously being careless. Tsk.

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  116. Ilbe users are buying up Secret albums now

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  117. its not the same in english
    there are different ways to say "democracy" and her connotation was the bad one

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  118. now bap's gummy smile couple will disappear... T_T

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  119. sorry, but at least i don't make 500 anon disqus accounts to respond to comments -____-

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  120. Damn that was fast O.O

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  121. "taking a year if poly sci classes regarding to democracy" that's the big difference, she isn't an expert on political siences, to her "democracy" probably means equality, everyone gets the same chances and oportunities. To me saying that there's no democracy in secret is wrong as fuck because it means that they are forced to accept whatever they are told to do and can't make their own decisions and i also would hate her for it lol but in this case, netizens are judging her for her use of the suffix "tize" that ilbe members put in democracy to use it in an ironic way, they are acussing her of being an ilbe member for a sufix and THAT'S what i find is ridiculous.

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  122. Why don't you use websites like google when you don't know something?

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  123. http://www.ilbe.com/ilbe

    If you are Korean..lol..

    Some of them are praising her,
    some of them are actually buying secret's album or digital mp3,
    some others are laughing,
    some of them are just saying they didn't know about her much before this incident but now they think she's hot,
    some of them are complaining what's wrong with using term "democratize" as a negative meaning,
    some of them are swearing at "political left wingers" and some other netizens who are bashing Hyosung.. etc...etc....



    Just like that...

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  124. In other part of the world probably same thing would happens.Your career wont end for most of the time but a tarnished image is guaranteed

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  125. Yeah. "Think before you speak" definitely applies to this situation. I'm sure this was a wake up call for her.

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  126. I feel really sorry for secret now. This is probably going to go on for a long time.

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  127. I'm pretty sure they already have their phone numbers and addresses.

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  128. I hate those certain netizens

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  129. I am just pray that this wont affect Secret as a whole.

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  130. She's not losing her job. She's filmed it and already paid for it. Well, the company has been paid for it. Being edited out isn't the same as being kicked out of filming.

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  131. no it is not. female celebrities are much more subjected to criticism when it comes to their looks, weight, talent, etc. much more so than any male celeb, who tend to get shielded from stuff in general by fans. using hyosung as an example here, she has been SHAMED countless of times for her weight.

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  132. Unnie didn't mean it!

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  133. no they would not because male idol's rabid fangirls would come in and start defending and down voting others like crazy anyway.

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  134. LMAO if celebrities got edited out every time they use a word out of context there probably wouldn't be any TV shows ever

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  135. Oh please, this is hardly the end of her career. People overreact too much.

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  136. it's more like she's losing her job as an idol

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  137. all she needs to do is get fat again and everyone would be too busy looking at her boobs they'll forget about the whole thing

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  138. The main reason why they're demanding that she be edited out of the IC footage is because that part will air on May 18th, the day Koreans honor the victims of the Gwangju Massacre or Gwangju Democratic Movement. They feel it would be a disservice to victims and the purpose of the day.

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  139. she used a word that ilbe members tend to use to mock democracy i get that but i just somewhat cannot believe she's an ilbe member

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  140. exactly. and he's quite lucky that he can stay away from variety/interviews because a lot of celebs don't have that choice.

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  141. Honestly, mistake or not, this might turn out to be the worst (or misguided) thing that an idol has ever said publicly.



    It's that bad.


    If it's a mistake, I feel for her. If it's not, she deserves what she is going to get.

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  142. my heart is breaking.. this seems so trivial to me but i understand why the netizens are so angry. i can guarantee they're going to try and make hyosung out to be a monster.

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  143. I hope someone stays close her. She is known to read the netizen comments and take them to heart. I don't want her to do something dangerous cause of those comments.

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  144. yesterday they were praising her fir saving ji eun life and now they r hating her for this word

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  145. oh, let's not exaggerate when not one day has even passed since this happened.


    it all depends on how Hyosung acts and how TS manages the situation from here on out. even T-ara are still working as idols, i have no doubt Hyosung will bounce back...though her image...like IU...is probably gone.

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  146. Secret wotas in full effect. These girls gonna get rich.

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  147. Can someone explain to me.. why people is hating on her?

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  148. yea, probably not an ilbe but was "innocently" lurking on ilbe sites and became sucked into it

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  149. Wow knetz seriously?!
    I mean maybe she sounds stupid but really?! Don't take things too far like this

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  150. when i told people don’t take k-netizen so serious don’t bluff and copy their crape and believe what they say they where laughing at me when i told you guys we are all k-pop lover's today is my bias tomorrow it could be your bias you were laughing at me now take this and it will keep coming don’t worry

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  151. "thewanderer • 2 hours ago

    For those of you who doesn't quiet get what ilbe is... It's the website like "trashy atmosphere of 4chan + extreme delusional political right wingers"............... One of the major problem is that they are distorting a modern history which is.. They even consider "5.18 Gwangju Massacre" as a just riot suppression... Even when all normal people in Korea think it was "Democratic Movement" against military government dictator Jun Doo Hwan.. And that caused huge massacre which is more than 4000 innocent people got killed by military force.. It was bloodbath, and now ilbe-users are still worshipping him and give nickname to this mass-murder dictator "Jun-TTanks:전땅크" meaning it was justified thing to trample innocent civilian with tanks.. So that's why people from Gwangju are extremely sensitive about delusional right wingers in Korea..

    See more information about that incident:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    I'm not sure she actually knew that expression term "democratize:민주화" is being used by ilbe-users in a such a negative way which is very wrong.. Term "democracy:민주주의" should be good meaning for common sense, but ilbe-users are being sarcastic to make it in a bad meaning term.. now "democratize someone or something:민주화시키다" with "-tize:시키다" or "-tized : 민주화되었다" became a symbol of unique expression term that only ilbe uses... It is very hard to believe whether she uses ilbe since they have extremely rough atmosphere.. but the way she talked is hard to ignore as a mistake, because it just sounds exactly like ilbe user which most of people don't say like that... This is why this whole thing is being huge controversy.. I hope you guys understand the situation thoroughly..."

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  152. Wow, this is so sad for her,secret, and ts.

    Someone said it earlier but knets turn on you sooo quickly!! That's so scary.

    I think I would rather be in a dating scandal than a political one...

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  153. i really feel like Koreans are super judgmental, it's like you do one thing wrong your slayed and then exiled. and even if it turn out to be false everyone besides the sensible ones still hate you, idols have it seriously hard.

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  154. like how americans act towards justin bieber and one direction

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  155. everything in korea is fast. Palli palli~

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  156. this is why i could never be a celebrity, i do not think before speaking... I really hope that Hyosung is just that stupid and not an Ilbe... K-nets never forget, so she better stay low for a while before she does something stupid again, it does not change much but it makes it better I guess :/

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  157. I see your comments everywhere. A lot of them are hateful and racist. I truly wonder why the hell people like you are even on this website? You realize you are no better than those "K-Netizens" you despise?

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  158. sure she said something stupid and offensive, hopefully she and others will learn from this. but i hope infinity challenge just sticks to what they were planning to air, there are a lot of idols and she isn't a variety star gem, so she probably won't get much air time anyways.

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  159. actually no it would be the other way around you have people who dont like him but no one is saying edit him out of shows or boot him out of america that has NEVER happened in america and if you feel otherwise please give an example :)

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  160. Hyosung and secret should just "reflect".

    Take a year off, and then come back.

    Thing will die down for now (just don't come back next may) because other scandals will happen! Secret fighting!

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  161. koreans will boycott idols music in a second and your idols won't even go public with their relationships because of the knetizen would make threats so let's be realistic here

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  162. The only way for her to end this up is to say something like "I was absolutely utterly stupid. Because I wanted to act smart, I used a word I didn't know. You can bash my lack of intelligence but please don't say that I'm an ilbe member. That's worse than everything. And I hope it won't affect Secret members. I have nothing to say but sorry. It won't happen again"
    Really do something Hyosung (not TS, not Secret, only Hyosung), without crying & acting pitiful. I really don't want them to be the next T-ara.
    Both issues are just stupidity that went too far. And T-ara's mistake was apologizing too late, without good explanations & too much faking.

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  163. maybe that other kpop site is better suited for you and your 501 accounts

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  164. and another thing when artist do something bad or unethical in their personal lives their fans either don't care or they support them even more example smoking weed we dont give a shit about that except for beiber fans but they still supported him G dragon smoked weed now he is G druggin and lost fans over his personal life choices as if he put the weed to his fans moths or something.

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  165. In my country there is a popular gagman that people think his joke often too much & can hurt others then he also got warning from broadcast commision several times but he still doing just fine with his job and popularity. I think hyosung will do fine too as long as she never make any scandal again. Maybe some netizen will still remember this scandal even in far future but since it less scandalous than t-ara i believe there are many people who still like her & secret.

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  166. Is there any chance that perhaps she didn't know that this 'ilbe' uses that word negatively?

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  167. eh, well in america i feel its more like this:
    we have celebrities doing shit like marijuana and shit, but they have their own shows and do their own thing. we dont care what they do since we dont watch their stuff (honey boo boo, kim kardashian, any interview/reality show thing)
    korean idols usually appear in shows with other idols or big name celebrities so people have to watch them if they want to also watch the big name celebrities. so they are shoved in our faces anyway.
    like in happy together, beatles code, there is always another guest


    but yea i see what ur saying

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  168. not rly since its not a colloquial word

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  169. I understand why they would want her to be edited out since May 18th is the same day of the Gwangju Democratic movement.
    Isn't it ironic though? It seems like it was almost planned because this scandal happened right before May 18th

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  170. There is a chance, but apparently on the internet everyone always uses the right words, with perfect context, and of course there is that handy "edit" button in case you do flub up.

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  171. But does the word generally have negative connotations to it or is it that ilbe's usage of it in a certain manner have added the connotations to it?

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  172. it probably sounded a little racist which i really didn't mean to sound like that at all honestly that's probably why you took offense and sadly people do watch those crappy shows i can say america has a problem with worshiping idols because chris brown really shouldn't even be prevalent in the music industry, and beiber fans were slitting their wrist over his weed smoking

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  173. Those ilbe users should just migrate to north korea if they're so against democracy

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  174. yea it has generally negative connotations
    its kinda like using nigger instead of black/african when referencing someone (not meant to offend anyone)
    same word but different sort of meaning i guess

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  175. People seem to forget that this happens to everyone at some point in your life. You use a word you think you know the meaning of, and you actually have no idea what you're talking about because you're trying to sound smart or look cool or whatever. Someone calls you out on it, and you're humiliated because you know how stupid you look.

    It's called being human.

    Do people honestly think the only place she could have heard this word is on that community? Are people really that dense?



    (inb4 arguments of "BUT THIS IS KOREA AND IN KOREA YOU CAN ONLY KNOW THIS KIND OF WORD IF YOU'RE ILBE AND THERE ARE NO SUCH THINGS AS COINCIDENCE OR MISTAKES THERE!" Stop it. Just stop.)

    4chan, Misc, Reddit, and 9gag memes are practically standard internet vernacular for people today. I'd put money on the fact that the majority of internet users don't actually know where those words originated. Some don't even know the name of the sites. Probably never even visited it, either. They know they saw it on the internet, though. It's not that hard to pick something up on the net. For all we know she read an article where netizens were discussing the use of the word, and got the meaning of it muffled in her head, or meant to use a different word, or didn't even realize what she said.

    It's more unintelligent to draw such drastic conclusions on someone's intellectual capacity or moral character from one sentence. As if that one sentence dictates who they are. If that were the case, we'd all be deemed mentally handicapped and moral heathens because we have all at one point said something incredibly stupid.

    Magically, Hyosung who has never had anything remotely shady released about her, is an Ilbe user? Riiiight. I'm not buying it, and anyone who does is even less intelligent than a person who uses the word "democratize".

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  176. maybe she's just dumb read the word somewhere and thought it was a big word that she could use just as another synonym for democracy and sound smart is not like ilbe trash doesn't pos tin other comunities too, i do believe she's stupid and was trying to sound smart but i doubt she's a facist ilbe member.

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  177. I honestly would find it easy to believe that she's not aware of the meaning, there are far too many 25 year olds I know who don't know a lot of things (like ROFL, I have had to explain the meaning of that to a student of computer programming) sometimes because they make a choice to ignore it and Secret was well known for not having cellphones for a long time, given that it wouldn't be that hard to be unaware of how a word has been misused by a shady community.

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  178. She's not losing her job. The average Korean is not the average netizen.



    Most Koreans probably aren't even aware that she used this word, and if they do, they probably don't care enough to talk about it.

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  179. R.I.P. Secret (2009-2013)

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  180. IA. This would be the best strategy to move forward with. Don't hide behind the rest of Secret or TSE. Admit you sounded like a fool, and move on.

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  181. so their the real bullies? fuck of secret!!!

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  182. omg here we go again 'double standard' blah di blah. netizen do not choose who they hate on, they just do. Hyosung is not being hated because she's a girl, she's being hated because she did something stupid. People need to stop playing the 'double standard' card.

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  183. i feel even worse for Hyosung because her comments these last few weeks about her weight have made it clear that she attaches a lot of importance to what people on the internet (and offline too no doubt) say about her. She must feel so bad right about now.

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  184. What the thing with ilbe?

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  185. Judging from her boobs size....
    I can tell her brain size..
    So i dont mind with this ilbe thing.....

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  186. Despite what they think, it's highly possible for Hyosung to be completely clueless about the other meaning of this word. Yes she can be on DC a lot and may have seen the word, but doesn't mean that she actually looked into it. I'm 23 and I can say that I am utterly clueless when it comes to alternative meanings to certain words that may be used among a certain group of people. So I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt here, she probably didn't even realize what she was saying.

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  187. "thewanderer • 2 hours ago

    For those of you who doesn't quiet get what ilbe is... It's the website like "trashy atmosphere of 4chan + extreme delusional political right wingers"............... One of the major problem is that they are distorting a modern history which is.. They even consider "5.18 Gwangju Massacre" as a just riot suppression... Even when all normal people in Korea think it was "Democratic Movement" against military government dictator Jun Doo Hwan.. And that caused huge massacre which is more than 4000 innocent people got killed by military force.. It was bloodbath, and now ilbe-users are still worshipping him and give nickname to this mass-murder dictator "Jun-TTanks:전땅크" meaning it was justified thing to trample innocent civilian with tanks.. So that's why people from Gwangju are extremely sensitive about delusional right wingers in Korea..

    See more information about that incident:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    I'm not sure she actually knew that expression term "democratize:민주화" is being used by ilbe-users in a such a negative way which is very wrong.. Term "democracy:민주주의" should be good meaning for common sense, but ilbe-users are being sarcastic to make it in a bad meaning term.. now "democratize someone or something:민주화시키다" with "-tize:시키다" or "-tized : 민주화되었다" became a symbol of unique expression term that only ilbe uses... It is very hard to believe whether she uses ilbe since they have extremely rough atmosphere.. but the way she talked is hard to ignore as a mistake, because it just sounds exactly like ilbe user which most of people don't say like that... This is why this whole thing is being huge controversy.. I hope you guys understand the situation thoroughly..."

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  188. I went on Ilbe and seriously it's no joke ! Hyosung is like a godess to them ! They download all of Secret's songs and buy their albums ! Well , in a financial view it's good for Secret but their image is total trash to other koreans now . To them Hyosung is definitely on Ilbe . I hope that from now on she will be more careful with her mouth and stop running around talking about her body because I sincerely like Secret ! I also hope this whole story won't affect B.A.P or TS ( Sorry for the grammar nazi but I'm french)

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  189. It's nothing like using the 'n' word at all.

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