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Tuesday, May 28, 2013

[Pann] INFINITE have lost their rookie mindset?


Pann: INFINITE, biased attitude towards girl groups on broadcast...

Summary: On the May 25th broadcast of a variety show called 'High Society', INFINITE and the show's producers/staff were asked to pick who they thought was the top amongst girl group idols.

Lee Soo Geun - Minah
Kim Byung Man - Yoona
Sunggyu - Seungyeon
Woohyun - Krystal
Hoya - Krystal
Sungyeol - Taeyeon
L - Suzy
Sungjong - Seohyun



The producers then decided to only reveal the top 5 and it was revealed that Minah placed in 3rd, having received the majority of the cameramen's votes.

Sungjong then asked, "Isn't this manipulated?" and Sungjong asked, "This is totally manipulated, totally manipulated..." causing Lee Soo Geun to reply that it wasn't. The male staff also explained that Minah is really cute lately, etc etc, quieting the other members. Then Hoya raised his hand and said, "Did the scriptwriters manipulate this??? Are you sure the results are right??" and kept cringing/looking discontented at Minah being in 3rd.






Then it was revealed that Krystal came in 2nd and Woohyun and Hoya celebrated since they both chose Krystal.

OP: "I understand that we all have idols that we favorite more than others but there was absolutely no need for INFINITE to accuse Minah coming in 3rd as being manipulated with such straight faces like that. I really question whether it was necessary for them to have repeated it that many times. Even when Lee Soo Geun tried to explain why, they kept denying it...

I feel like conversations like these are more appropriate for off camera, private places. Isn't it wrong for them to accuse a show of manipulation just because a girl group member is more popular than they thought? They could've just accepted it and moved on.

Imagine how Minah would feel if she saw this broadcast."

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Inspirits shields + OP's retorts:

1. There was a consequence in place for whoever chose the last ranking star: "This is a poor shield because a public figure should know that they should always, always be cautious and careful when talking about another celebrity, both in their actions and their words. The shield also doesn't make sense because Sungyeol accused the ranking of being manipulated even after he placed 5th with Taeyeon, meaning he was exempt from the consequence."

2. The members were cheering because there was a prize on the line: "Woohyun and Hoya cheered for Krystal despite there being no prize for the 2nd place winner."

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1. [+694, -95] It's because INFINITE knows that they've gotten popular now. You know what Sunggyu said on Weekly Idol? They asked him to do the Hooing Hooing Aegyo and he said "We're not that low of a level to be doing those things anymore"... I was really shocked when he said that and my affections for him immediately disappeared.

2. [+485, -69] What a mess. Speaking directly, seeing as how they never had any controversies in the past but this week has been nothing but explosive controversies for them means that they've not only lost their roots, but they're getting cocky with fame. They're public figures, they should know to watch their mouths. How can they not manage their facial expressions that badly and ask out loud whether the ranking was manipulated? That puts Lee Soo Geun in such an awkward position. I'm really curious as to how Inspirits will shield this. I remember when Sunggyu said he liked Hyuna and Hyuna got so much hate... I always thought journalist Kim Yong Ho was firing empty shots when he tweeted about INFINITE but it seems he was right. INFINITE has lost their roots.

3. [+412, -50] I initially thought they were really close with Minah because there's no way you can speak that way about someone like that without it being wrong. Hoya kept asking if it was manipulated... and that Lee Sungyeol kid really needs to watch this mouth. He said that other thing where he didn't understand why idols were banned from dating and all of INFINITE got so much hate for that. I felt bad for the rest of the members because they all said that they prioritized work over dating.

4. [+95, -13] They don't seem to know that Minah has way more public recognition than INFINITE;;; INFINITE is just a group that teens like ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

5. [+81, -11] Hoya's facial expression seriously pisses me off. There's no need to make a face like that over something so trivial.

6. [+74, -3] I'm an Inspirit myself but... I was really disappointed as well. It made me feel uncomfortable when Sunggyu declined to do the aegyo on Weekly Idol because it was beneath them... I became a fan of INFINITE because they always worked from the bottom up.. I miss the INFINITE that cried when they first took home their #1 win. I feel like if they keep this up, they're going to hit a huge controversy that will just drop their efforts down to the floor. Please.. don't lose your roots.

7. [+69, -5] Seems like this is as far as INFINITE can go. They only have down to go from here.

8. [+67, -8] Hoya really looks like he's pissed about it ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

9. [+37, -0] Even super seniors Shinhwa do whatever they're asked... and these pathetic kids are arguing about levels?

10. [+25, -0] I still love INFINITE but I have to admit that they're not what they used to be. They've changed a lot, you can tell from their variety appearances... I was really turned off by Sungyeol oppa when he asked what 'hopeless' meant, a word that's in the lyrics of Dongwoo's rap part in their 'Paradise' song. How could you sing a song for years and not know what it means or even bother to look it up? It just shows that he just sang whatever he was given without thought, and that's so wrong...

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797 comments:

  1. 아찔아찔 fantasticMay 28, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    Are netizens going to shit on Infinite now? Sigh.

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  2. "We're not that low of a level to be doing those things anymore" Wow.

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  3. FACT: 'FAME CAN CHANGE A PERSON'

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  4. Bit of a douche bag move Infinite, poor Minah.

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  5. Oppa didn't mean it!!!!
    It's been a while for me to hear this!

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  6. "He said that other thing where he didn't understand why idols were banned from dating and all of INFINITE got so much hate for that." lmao does that make sense tho?

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  7. That must have insulted Minah.

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  8. A lot of what is said on Weekly Idol is mostly tongue-in-cheek, though? I mean, if they're going to take that as evidence that Sunggyu's lost his roots...


    But yeah, the Hyuna thing I cannot abide. The stupidity I saw on Twitter and Tumblr in Hyuna's tag. She never even looked at him, why are you bringing your nonsense and blaming her?

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  9. Infinite have been too big for their boots for a long time. They're just a group teens like but they think they're famous with the public and on the level of Big Bang, EXO or Shinhwa.

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  10. 아찔아찔 fantasticMay 28, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    Infinite's image has been squeaky clean until this. Thanks a lot Hoya. Really.

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  11. 아찔아찔 fantasticMay 28, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    Imagine how Minah felt. Poor girl.

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  12. infinite has two teenagers, most of them are in their 20s...

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  13. your comment will make sense without exo in it lol

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  14. Um Exo??? Lol. Exo is only popular on tumblr.

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  15. Wow. A little dissing has always been a part of Korean variety shows but how they were pressed about it was pretty serious. And what Sunggyu said on Weekly Idol... just wow. Even Shinhwa still does those aegyo and other stupidly adorable things for the sake of variety so how could he say something like that... I don't know if I'm being too serious here but nonetheless, it's pretty disappointing.

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  16. EXO ? U kidding me right ?

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  17. Hoya has such an unfortunate face tbh. Bad face to match with bad attitude I guess.

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  18. I guess they were trying to be funny, wich they sometimes are, but came off as being rude instead. SIgh poor minah

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  19. I don't know SQUAT about infinite but knowing how negatively the general public reacts towards idols, he should know that they can get shit from netizens over that, even if he's joking.



    We all know idols are like puppets and when they show signs of humanity the general public seem to hate it.

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  20. Hoya face screams for captions.

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  21. 1. [+694, -95] It's because INFINITE knows that they've gotten popular now. You know what Sunggyu said on Weekly Idol? They asked him to do the Hooing Hooing Aegyo and he said "We're not that low of a level to be doing those things anymore"... I was really shocked when he said that and my affections for him immediately disappeared.



    Even though that was harsh, i think shows should stop bluddy asking idols to do aegyo like just stop it's not cute when it's forced urgh

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  22. 9. [+37, -0] Even super seniors Shinhwa do whatever they're asked...



    Sometimes, there is actually a never-changing-reason as to why people like Shinhwa and DBSK still manage to survive until today, even if they're no longer at the top - people want to work with them, and are willing to give them chances and choose to work with them instead of others.

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  23. There's a reason why Shinhwa are the variety-idols...

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  24. Are you Korean? If you were you would know EXO are making a big splash right now.

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  25. weren't Minah & Infinite close??
    they appeared a couple times in strong heart already.

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  26. I thought whatever you said on Weekly Idol would be considered as a joke....

    Oh well... I was wrong then ==;

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  27. That's why they were the best selling rookie of 2012, right? Because they're only popular on Tumblr, LOL.

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  28. Awoooooooooooo on tumblr !

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  29. Oppar has changed a lot ( ಠ_ಠ)

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  30. Call me dumb but what does ''oppa'' mean?

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  31. And in Korea. Go back to your One direction CD or whatever, LOL.

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  32. wow are you knew to kpop/kdramas/korea as a whole?

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  33. 아찔아찔 fantasticMay 28, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    Can I just say perfect angel Dongwoo is perfect. No-one's got shit on him.

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  34. well that wast very nice was it now tut tut

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  35. agree with you.. if the senior idol can do, why can't infinite???.. Shinhwa now in their 30's...sometimes i even (jokingly) call them ajussi... but still they willing to those aegyo!!! wow...infinite~~~ they give me membong!!

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  36. IDK what one direction is but I do know EXO actually aren't that big in SK... and I'm pretty sure BAP did better than them

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  37. 아찔아찔 fantasticMay 28, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    BUT GUYS OPPA DIDN'T MEAN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111

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  38. Did these netizens even try to watch Sunggyu on all his variety idol apperances tho?

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  39. what happened :/

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  40. AHAHAHAHAAHA comparing Exo to Big Bang and Shinhwa. Jesus Christ. I hate Big Bang and don't care about Shinhwa but even I have to say that's ridiculous

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  41. No. Get over it, EXO are a big deal now.

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  42. I'm not trying to shield them, but this makes me wonder if they had any personal problems with Minah for them to act like this. Maybe a member was dumped by her haha

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  43. lol I came her after watching the Radio Star ep with SNSD. The ridiculous things they made Yuri do. Yoona as well. But they did it anyway, for the sake of the show and for the viewers entertainment.
    Those so called "proofs" of INFINITE loosing their roots, are really exaggerated and taking out of context tbh. But I hope it just helps them to be more careful in the future of their image. Not everyone is their fan. Got lot of ppl there waiting for them to slip up

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  44. I haven't watched this ep of High Society, but I'm sorry to say that they weren't very polite to LSG and KBM either during their 1st appearance on the show, so it's not something new to me.

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  45. I agree. Holding someone from a leash and asking them to dance for you is basically what is done to idols all the time. I am not a fan of the band or Kpop in general, but I don't see why it's bad being honest about not wanting to do stupid things after you have gained enough power and fame to not be forced into them anymore.

    Do fans think idols really love doing all this stuff? Just because they smile and sell it? I don't blame anyone for wanting a more dignified career than what being an idol in Korea is, frankly. Now bring on the downvoting, since I know many don't like hearing facts that ruin their fun.

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  46. In the real sense of the word, oppa is how a younger female calls an older male but it can also be an endearment term, and aegyo-ish.

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  47. BAP didn't do better than them despite promoting for every single month in a desperate bid for money and attention. :) EXO still wiped the floor with them. Quality not quantity QED.

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  48. Be truthful: you put EXO up here just cause you wanted to start some bickering lmao.

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  49. That 1st comment is the most stupid I ever read.. Sunggyu and others are not robot, if they don't want to do something, they have the right to refuse it. Everybody talks about Infinite as performers, why would they bother with people random requests, especially Sunggyu, it's not like his success comes from his apparence (not that I think he's ugly or so, but we know that he's not included in the usual korean beauty standards).

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  50. I've noticed that too lately. Sunggyu and sungyeol have become cocky these days.

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  51. I put them up here because it's the truth, even if haters don't like it

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  52. Not only Hyuna . Their fan also hate on suzy cause L choose suzy for two times . They said suzy not same level for L but the awkward moment when suzy never mention L .

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  53. I hope Minah doesn't see this...

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  54. A lot of immature children upset that oppa likes Hyunah and that he mentioned it several times that they found it necessary to call her a lot of derogatory names.

    Hyunah has never even acknowledged Sunggyu's attention? People are assholes.

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  55. or they're joking...? If they're close, I doubt she was crying herself to sleep over them making a joke about this. It's not like they actually came for her looks or something gross like that.

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  56. Their fan more bullshit than them ..

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  57. another delusional exo fan, Shinwha and exo in the same sentence just no.

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  58. For those who think Infinite are rude.
    Most of you Kpop fans scream and complain & argue when your favorite group wasn't the number 1 on any kind of poll/list

    and like you guys, as people Infinite are also like that
    since there also like us,


    They wouldn't understand why their favorites wasn't on top

    But yeah as a celebrities, they need to be careful what they say

    but still they are just like us who complain when our favorite things aren't on Top of the list


    and there just like us who also make mistakes.

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  59. Lol at least win a daesang before you get that cocky lol.

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  60. ohh yhh i remember now, thanks ^-^

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  61. LOL I remembered the Shut Up song of 4Minute on SNL and the part where Hyuna sings "Your oppa likes me" or smth like that... Hahahahahahahahahahaha

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  62. No, I will not call you that!
    Oppa = Older brother (younger female call older male)
    Hyung = Older brother (younger male call older male)
    Unnie = Older sister (younger female call older female)
    Noona = Older sister (Younger male call older female)

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  63. So true. Andy is a CEO yet when he has to dance, he goes and does his ridic Heart Dance just like he used to when he was a teenager. Even at the height of DBSK's popularity where MC's and guests practically fawn over them, they never thought they were above anything. If a variety show called for doing something silly or embarrassing, they do it because it's part of the grand scheme of things.



    These hoobaes need to suck it up and do their job.

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  64. where are your proofs, lee sooman?

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  65. i think the one on weekly idol was a joke prob bec he doesn't like doing aegyo. but this minah incident, is really hurtful if i were her. any girls would feel that way. they should be careful next time.


    about sungyeol, tbh i don't really like his attitude. i watched ranking king & he was really disrespectful towards the model girl in fashion ranking. & in sesame player, he grabbed the pd's collar when they lied abt girl group coming to their dorm.. i was really surprised. he may be joking, but it's not appropriate imo.

    i wonder what ppl on allkpop will say abt this.

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  66. B.A.P >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EXO in terms of SONGS, LIVE performances, STAGE PRESENCE etc. ..

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  67. You guys were doing so well. *sigh*

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  68. Calling AttentionMay 28, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    As much as I don't like that loser poser Light Hoya, I still don't see the deal just because the group are voicing their suspicions and for saying that they shouldn't be doing aegyo because they don't want to grovel to fans anymore. I've hated Infinite for these past 2 years because of their fan service so it's actually nice to hear that they will stop doing some of it. It also makes me happy to possibly see some of those fans be mad, haha.

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  69. their idols tho, it's their freaking job and it's normal they won't like every single aspect of it. It's just aegyo, it won't kill them to do it for their fans if they like it

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  70. CL, please go work on your rapping instead of making such silly comments.

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  71. I think what angered/pissed/disappointed most of them is how they insisted on the results being unbelievable several times that it lost the variety-comedy feels to it..

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  72. Wow infinite wow, seriously
    poor minah

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  73. 아찔아찔 fantasticMay 28, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    Are you okay?

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  74. Gotta watch this episode to judge for myself. I'm thinking Infinite's WTF reactions may have been scripted, but netizens didn't get the joke? But if this was real, I'm seriously surprised at how the boys could question Minah's popularity. Minah has always been one of the more loved female idols because of her looks and personality. She is even popular among idols. Just watch the Chuseok Special Miss and Mister Idol Korea.

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  75. You can say it but it won't make it true.

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  76. They can stop doing some of their fanservices without saying it rudely.

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  77. Having a special "talent" to show and doing aegyo are practically the standard thing to do when appearing in any VARIETY show ...
    If its impressive/cute then they'll get applauded, if its awful/cringe worth they get a few laughs and some screen time.
    I hate it when idols, singers or actors just appear on variety shows just to promote themselves and not even try to be entertaining at all, sitting there trying to act all cool. You know how boring it is for the viewers to watch -_-

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  78. Just checked weekly idol to make sure and Sunggyu did say that their not at this level anymore but still did the aegyo. And from my point of view he said it because he knew his aegyo would be akward.

    But the thing about Minah wasnt ok. They should have thought more about it before questioning her position and espacially so many times.

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  79. You forgot about SUZY too . L is the one who keep mention SUZY name but their fan act like ...... and FYI suzy never give a any mention about L :)

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  80. LOL i love how exo fans can get a bunch of people to dislike them, on a article doesn't have anything to do with them

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  81. who care about minah feeling ....infinite fighting ^ ^

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  82. "but still they are just like us who complain when our favorite things aren't on Top of the list"



    What we say here and what Infinite says on tv are 2 different things

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  83. Calling AttentionMay 28, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    Sunggyu actually has a reason to be cocky. Sungyeol, not at all.

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  84. Just because My name CL doesn't mean I like CL or she's my favorite.

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  85. They will shit on everyone, that's why there are so many new rookies... They need new people to shit talk about, since they used everyone else already.

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  86. This comment is begging for hate. LMAO

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  87. 아찔아찔 fantasticMay 28, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    Let's not feed the troll.

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  88. WOW ? seriouslly ?

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  89. i kinda agree with netizen this time....
    i noticed that too...but as a fan i will always support them.. :)

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  90. "what is said on Weekly Idol is mostly tongue-in-cheek" bc they are very close with the mc/staffs program as whole.

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  91. 아찔아찔 fantasticMay 28, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    O M G

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  92. don't they know that girls day is quiet popular these days

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  93. in fanfiction

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  94. I think so too.


    Hoya always been kinda blunt.
    and Sunggyu always have been comfortable in weekly idol since the MC teases him and bully him a lot.

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  95. Calling AttentionMay 28, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    Mad Infinite fan stay mad. I'm rooting for Infinite to be the cocky bastards that they have become *wink*

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  96. Yeah... I'm sure they said it as a joke but to say they're above aegyo is rather silly when SNSD gets asked to do it on like every show or when Shinhwa are still doing it after 14 years.....

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  97. I LOVE GIRLS DAY THEN THIS COCKY :)

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  98. Even though you disappoint with the result, do you really need to ask or complain several times like that? Mind you, they are celebrity! Their word not only for themselves!

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  99. I'm pretty sure he was joking. Although, he should definitely watch his mouth since silly netizens could easily take it out of context like they just have.

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  100. LOL exactly HAHAHA /rolling/

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  101. I seriously cannot distinguish right now if this is sarcasm or not. Damn. LOL

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  102. no one care please ..dont make it a big deal i bet you don't know who the hell is she

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  103. "They asked him to do the Hooing Hooing Aegyo and he said "We're not that low of a level to be doing those things anymore." If you watch the episode he said it in a joking manner, they all wound up doing the aegyo anyway. Sunggyu and the Weekly Idol MCs both make fun of each other, ever since they first appeared on the show. Ya'll need to actually watch it before you form opinions.

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  104. tbh I'm quite surprised at this... maybe it's just me but I never really noticed their international fans but they seem to be really well received in Korea (except for the resent dating controversy with one of the members). It's good to hear this. I like them.

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  105. Their job is to sing and dance and promote their music and dancing. If the contract they signed has "Obey every command coming from anyone, at any time", they really need to get a better lawyer.

    Yes, it's part of the job in a non-formal way, but humans have limits, moods and values. If agencies want clowns to entertain fans, they should hire clowns. No one should be asked to do more than what their contract they have willingly gotten into dictates. Being an idol is a job, like any other and it should be subject to labor rights and human rights alike. But that's another sad topic in Korea.

    As for what he said, that was uncalled for yes. It's simply a bad marketing move to diss a fellow idol.

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  106. *sight* they all did that aegyo thingy http://24.media.tumblr.com/bf88e366318d74d2ba8c2aa084c64f94/tumblr_mm4deyKcMl1qbarfmo2_250.gif

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  107. "1. [+694, -95] It's because INFINITE knows that they've gotten popular now. You know what Sunggyu said on Weekly Idol? They asked him to do the Hooing Hooing Aegyo and he said "We're not that low of a level to be doing those things anymore"... I was really shocked when he said that and my affections for him immediately disappeared."

    Have to agree with this, I was so shocked and afterwards hyundon looked a bit awkward. He made the mood sour and completely disregarded what weekly idol has done for them. I hope they realize that the most important trait is humbleness and sincerity for a celebrity.

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  108. If you did know anything about Sunggyu, you would know he hates aegyo. And he also has a huge affinity for sarcastic humor. But it's okay if pressed netizens couldn't comprehend that.

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  109. EXO is not yet famous with the General Public. Please don't confuse Korea's public/mass from idol fans. Sure they have lots of teenager fans but with the General public? No. Even Super Junior as a whole doesn't have the support of the Korea's general public. :)

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  110. as an inspirit myself, its true i thought some of what netizens said here,

    but then i thought again, its only for variety.. gyu has been doing variety a lot these days so he just wanted to be funny.. in the end he still did it..

    and for the minah thingy, everyone has their own bias right.. you wouldnt like it when your bias is ranked lower than other idols..

    they are still kids for me.. being all that "i cant accept it"..

    maybe im biased..

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  111. 아찔아찔 fantasticMay 28, 2013 at 1:25 PM

    Okay.....have fun.

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  112. lol. obvious troll is obvious.

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  113. As an Infinite fan myself i do worry if the members will get cocky because they're now at the top. People will try their hardest to find even the smallest mistakes to burn them alive. They did it to some rookies (Block B anyone) even the popular ones (T-ara) so I can already expect this. I won't go defending them like a delusional fan as I have some members that I worry about to have this kind of attitude but so far I'm okay with them. As for Weekly Idol, we all know how Sunggyu is like very close with the MCs, it's not his first time talking like that though. They even joked about how Infinite is a senior to Defconn and Hyungdon in music when they both debuted as a duo before (acting all almighty etc), it's all for the sake of the variety. They made mistakes of course but these are all exaggerated. Well, fans complained a lot when their faves weren't in the top of polls so how is this different. But still, I feel sorry for Minah though. I hope this will make them (Infinite) be more careful in the future.

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  114. Most of infinite are REALLY close with minah (especially L) so I doubt she was hurt much. Also, they weren't being personal to her in anyway, they were just exaggerating the fact that they had lost the game.

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  115. Troll alert. Spotted around the top rated comments

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  116. exo will always sell well because of the sm attached to it that is all

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  117. 아찔아찔 fantasticMay 28, 2013 at 1:26 PM

    If you want attention, go strip and run around your neighbourhood.

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  118. Wow, just looking at those photos makes me want to cringe. Poor Minah. They went too far this time.

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  119. 6. [+74, -3][...]I became a fan of INFINITE because they always worked from the bottom up[...]

    Started from the bottom, now where here. Started from the bottom now my how whole team here


    (i had to, i'm sorry)

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  120. Yeah, they did it reluctantly.
    In their heads they must be thinking "Damn it, I'm now considered a top idol, so stop asking me to do such lowly actions beneath my status".
    I just can't believe they said it loud though, in front of the camera lol

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  121. haha exo fans are more like teenager fans who like to doing editing and making gifs on tumblr. ckckck

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  122. tbh, they didn't but believe what you wish.

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  123. the disappointment on his face is pretty funny. chill bro, not that serious

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  124. He was joking :/ He even did it after he said that. It's being taken out of context....

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  125. I'm betting on my life there are more idols out there who hate aegyo just as much but are wise enough to keep mum about it.

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  126. it differs from other people

    To you maybe when your disappointed, you'll easily let it go

    like Myungsoo who didn't really mind the poll.

    but people like Hoya who has that kind of personality might have to ask it several times..


    In polls there are fans who just let it go

    but some other fans will complain all day about it just like Hoya

    They are celebrities but they are also people who's just like us who will complain and also make several mistakes.



    this kind of mistake is forgivable
    and it's understandable if they actually got cocky sicne they are successful nowadays or there already has that forceful personality in the first place

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  127. Only one of them said it so there's no real reason to say 'they'. The rest of infinite don't mind aegyo.

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  128. about hoya's facial expression, his usual expression is really like that though? lol

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  129. Didn't one of them said that SM people were 90% looks and 10% talent or something like that and was exposed by Shindong?

    They are getting really cocky and they are not even close to Big Bang status. How delusional.

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  130. lol ofc. the 1 fangirl retaliation.

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  131. JYPNATIONCITIZENMay 28, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    Big Bang and Shinwa yes, EXO???..even my korean friends didnt know them..

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  132. This is out of topic but having Shinhwa and aegyo in one sentence reminds me of Eric's roaring ppuing. That was epic... PUHAHAHAHAHAHA! Okay, what were we talking about again? Hahahahahaha!

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  133. He said (wrote) it like two years BEFORE he debuted...

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  134. I know he aint wise for saying it out loud but really that's his only crime. It seems like people are judging him for his thoughts, not voicing them.

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  135. wow some nice skill you have reading minds through a youtube video

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  136. Okay, judging by all these downvotes, everyone's just eager to hate on someone. Go ahead, hate if it makes you feel better.

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  137. sound great idea i'm in my way to do it thx ^ ^

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  138. how can someone who hasn't debut be cocky and say that.


    get your facts right.

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  139. It's not all of infinite. Just sunggyu, jeez.

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  140. Most people here are such hypocrites. They just eat up whatever k netizens feed them. before you judge see for your self that sunggyu was just kidding when he said he wont do ageo (because it looks awkward or whatever).

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  141. Infinite and their fandom are arrogant and cocky.

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  142. 4. [+95, -13] They don't seem to know that Minah has way more public
    recognition than INFINITE;;; INFINITE is just a group that teens like
    ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ


    WOW really? I've been liking Girl's Day's tunes lately but I didn't know Minah was more popular than INFINITE... is this true or are they just trolling?


    As for this issue as a whole I was really surprised and disappointed. As a fanboy I've mainly focused my attentions on strictly girl groups but there are two boy groups that has always impressed me in terms of talent and that is Shinee and INFINITE. I watched reply 1997 and also liked Hoya so it's safe to say that I was rooting for this group to really rise to fame, I love some of their songs and their dances but now seeing this makes me sad and kinda a bit turned off. I've always seen them as a very Humble group and Sunggyu's comment was really...the opposite. And the way Hoya looked on those screen caps really looked douchey to me. I don't hate them but I'm so disappointed in them. If they ever keep this up all of their hard work will just be ended quickly. I hope to see the Humble INFINITE back...

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  143. It was only a matter of time for oya's bitch-face and sassyness to get him in trouble and for Sungyeol's childish ways to get him in trouble and for Sunggyu's rudeness to get him in trouble. Sorry to the general public but it has nothing to do with them thinking that they are too good now, they have always been like this.

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  144. Well you know netizens always take things out of the context. That's the sad part. And worst it was written that way and one of the top comments so a regular fan will automatically think they're arrogant.

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  145. I guess it's safe to say that netizens are jumping into conclusions despite the fact that one, Sunggyu's cocky act is his and has always been his comic, two Hoya's a bitch ever since time immemorial, and three, Sungyeol is just plain hilarious for being carelessly blunt on variety shows. This author is totally reaching. Desperately reaching.

    Also, not doing aegyo =/= not looking back to their roots. You guys haven't even watched the entire episode / all their variety appearances so sit down.

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  146. Erm if you bother reading the article, this member of Infinite actually said it himself...

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  147. hmmm i know there are something wrong with this group...and I obviously can see it before this...when they are first gaining fame,i try to watch their performance and their variety show to know their personality but damn they never attract my attention n I usually quite picky to choose my bias... and actually i make a good n wise choice to ignore them lol

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  148. The cameramen have good taste

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  149. You will enter mental hospital after that~

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  150. "Damn it, I'm now considered a top idol, so stop asking me to do such lowly actions beneath my status". << i was talking about this

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  151. Yeah, the MCs on Weekly Idol love them. They're really comfortable with the staff on that show, so they can joke like that. It's much better than the awkward, uber-polite Infinite that they started off as, IMO. But I guess that's the only way to be called humble, to not joke at all.

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  152. 아찔아찔 fantasticMay 28, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    True but because of Infinite's squeaky clean image, they'll try and find anything to hate on them for. Sad to be honest. But that's netizens for you.

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  153. LOL We just said the same thing, those 3 have always been that way. It's just that now that they are popular & the general public is just getting to know them.

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  154. Most definitely not since it's not THAT big of a deal. Certainly aint the same as having a crime related scandal + it doesn't involve the whole group. They'd forget about it pretty easily if infinite's next song is good.

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  155. actually he said 60% looks and 40% talent !
    i'm a Smtown fan but don't try to start a fanwar.
    plus it was just his opinion, he has the right to have one. It's not because i disagree with it that he can't give it.

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  156. Wow! INFINITE really need to sit down. People's will gets sick of them somehow if this continues. They don't even pass the 5 years curse yet.

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  157. Wow, douchebag move there.

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  158. Isn't it about the same meaning??? lol

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  159. It was L who said that.

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  160. It's funny cos all but one of infinite are older than exo-k.

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  161. Stop assuming shit. You ignoring them is your decision, it's not their lost.
    They are a great group, what they said about Minah was insensitive & hurtful but there's no need to make them out as assholes.
    They're not. You obviously have never followed them, what would you actually know?

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  162. Yea I get what you mean...*sigh*
    But this is exactly what i meant by it getting taken out of context.
    Sunggyue is actually one of the hardest working members of infinite in the variety field. Saw him a lot of times on Weekly idol.

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  163. I'd be suspicious of the list being manipulated if she rated that high too. Their reactions were actually genuine. Sometimes idols can't really win. I'd prefer them being honest about their opinions than them just spewing generic BS.

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  164. The most important things, Oppa didn't mean it !!!! /gigled

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  165. I honestly think these kids won't even dare to change their ways because that's who they are, rude, bitchy, and childish. Netizens need to know that Infinite have been ridiculously honest in front of the camera (well except Woohyun probably HAHAHA) and we'll eventually see them appreciate their honesty.

    Also, PDs can be careless on choosing which cuts to include on the final material for broadcast.

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  166. Calling AttentionMay 28, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    I honestly don't get why people are sorry Minah...isn't she a big girl who can handles criticism towards her and otherwise with some fortitude. I don't know why we as people take these small matter personally. It is a small matter, after all.

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  167. You know they are really popular when they start getting hated on. My boys have made it!

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  168. Question: how many people here have watched the show before commenting?

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  169. So...being rude before debut is ok?

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  170. They are. Infinite weren't being personal to her and honestly those two inspirit shielding comments were completely valid and the reason they said those things.

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  171. Infinite have always been humble.

    and infinite members personality always the same to this day

    infinite member always said that sunggyu is a bit confident and they always tease him about it.

    they always said that hoya hold grudges and is the one that is blunt about things

    This is not shocking that Infinite have flaws in their personality,
    it's not because they got cocky.

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  172. anyway i just realized some people in netizenbuzz now are more netizen like.. even without knowing the things....
    you guys should watch it first before commenting things



    anyway i found it weird that minah was that high too even though i did feel a bit disappointed looking their reactions were that bad with minah being that high..


    minah is the most rookie in the list right?

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  173. 아찔아찔 fantasticMay 28, 2013 at 1:35 PM

    Praying to the heavens for a dark, manly comeback.

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  174. i have watched both^^

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  175. Fine, regarding Minah, it was definitely hurtful but that's it, they have never been involved in any scandals or shit before this,

    There's no 5 year curse, that's childish.
    "If this continues"- as if this happened before, they won't make the same mistake again.

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  176. so because it was made before debut it isn't a cocky statement, I mean..does this guy is more talent than looks to be judging the others ?

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  177. .................... o k a y . . .

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  178. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68Gnmzq_dsM ← 루니 만세~! ahahahaha

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  179. sungyeol was accusing the ranking being manipulated because hes such a fanboy of taeyeon, he wants his bias to be first.

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  180. I think that's what we're getting going by the outfits they've been wearing on the set of the mv :)

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  181. and Infinite is the best example of the fact that 'fame can change a person' ...
    they should know how the word humbleness work in their life before they are getting this kind of hate..
    but dude...it's too late now..people don't care if u work hard to get from the bottom to who u are now...

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  182. Maybe she'll get hurt of brush it off as a joke we'll never know. Pretty sure she'll wondering why they questioning her votes tho, I can see it as I'm a girl too. But yeah this is small matter after all. No need to overreact.

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  183. Then nugu who get hated also made it .

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  184. As much as I love Infinite I don't support what they said about Minah. :c I have yet to catch the episode yet but still regardless of whether they were joking or not I wish they'd be more careful with their words/actions in the future. :\\\\

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