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Friday, March 29, 2013

Sasaeng fan guests on CulTwo's Veranda Show


Article: 'Cultwo's Veranda Show' spotlights sasaeng fans, sasaeng fan makes first ever appearance "Even pregnant women camp out overnight"

Source: TV Report via Nate

The March 29th episode of CulTwo's Veranda Show featured a segment on sasaeng fans along with a special sasaeng fan guest at the studio.

- Sasaeng fan 'L' who's been a sasaeng fan from her 2nd year of junior high to 3rd year of high school: "(I became a sasaeng fan) because you can talk to the celebrities. When you wait at the dorms or other places they frequent, they start to recognize you and you can talk to them. I went because you could get closer. When they recognize you, you're overcome with a feeling of pride, possession, and other imaginative thoughts."

- To get into the dorms, sasaeng fans will use one fan to distract the security guards (pick a fight, etc) so that the group can get past the gates and to the dorm. They'll hide in the storage room or the attic.

- Sasaeng fan 'K' who has 6 years of sasaeng experience: "You wait 30 minutes to see them for three seconds. It's worth it because you're so happy for those three seconds. I'll lay down newspaper in front of the dorm and sleep. There's nothing to do but wait. If you leave to eat, you might miss them so I usually carry around triangle kimbap. I started this at first because I liked the members but it became an addiction later."

- "Sasaeng taxis are really good at following celebrity vans. There is even a lot of competition among the sasaeng taxis. I remember riding one and thinking that I could die."

- On the issue of personal information being hacked: "Smaller sites are easy to find the password to. It takes about two to three days at most."

- The sasaeng fan who guested on the show started in her first year of junior high. "I began as a TVXQ sasaeng and then moved on to another group. There is a wide range of sasaeng fan ages from elementary school students to 40 year olds. There are even some pregnant women who come and camp out overnight, as well as a lot of Japanese and Chinese fans."

- Asked to choose the worst type of sasaeng fan: "Sasaeng fans who touch or hit the star. One time, a member was walking out when a sasaeng fan grabbed him by the back of his hair and caused him to fall over. He ended up injuring his tailbone. She only did it because she wanted to be remembered by him, even if it's for something bad."

- The ultimate goal of sasaeng fans: "To become their friend."

1. [+127, -7] Don't call sasaengs 'fans'... They're stalkers, not fans ㅡㅡ

2. [+101, -5] Crazy b*tches

3. [+87, -4] Sasaeng has to be a psychological disease

4. [+23, -3] The thing that surprised me the most about this broadcast was that I always assumed sasaengs would be in their teens but they were all over 20 years old~ I thought it was just a phase teens went through and gave up once they entered the real world but I guess once you've been a sasaeng for 10 years, your sense of reality becomes warped.

5. [+19, -5] Not sasaeng fans but sasaeng criminals

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120 comments:

  1. fans like this are so creepy...

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  2. they're not fans or even groupies. people like that are dangerous stalkers. doesn't matter if it's a male/female sasaeng stalking a male/female celeb either.

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  3. Here you go guys. You're welcome America.

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xye7da_dvd-3_music?start=10

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  4. GASP!! Elementary students & Pregnant Women are out there too 0_o, What kind of mess is that?

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  5. I always thought most of them were teenagers too,but sasaengs in their tweens and older.speechless. 0_0. They really need help,asap.
    And the worst part is how proud they are of what they do!!!

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  6. lol so off topic :P and yes that was good

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  7. I thought sasaeng fans would stop once they got in a real relationship (especially to the level of getting married/pregnant) but I guess not omfg... Korea needs treatment centers for this I swear

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  8. - The ultimate goal of sasaeng fans: "To become their friend."


    because everyone wants to befriend their obsessive stalker

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  9. Wait so it's an episode on the life of a sasaeng? South Korea needs to adapt True Life and have their first episode True Life: I am a sasaeng fan.

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  10. Public, government, police or whoever need to do something about them..
    They seriously need mental help !

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  11. I thought stalking was supposed to be illegal...

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  12. At first I felt angry towards them... now I feel bad because in some point
    I think that they don't really acknowledge the kind of 'psychological problem' that
    they've develop and someone need to let them now. They seriously need some treatment.

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  13. Thank you. This was a pleasant watch.

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  14. Look at these pathetic bitches. SHAKING MY DAMN HEAD.

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  15. You can totally tell that the ones in the last picture are JYJ...

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  16. let me guess it's JYJ.

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  17. oh that is JYJ's pic... i am also pretty sure Yoochun was the one who got hit often too...

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  18. There needs to be rehab facilities for these people.

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  19. WTF is wrong with saesang fans..

    http://i45.tinypic.com/34zd8qd.gif

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  20. They need to be in rooms with padded walls.

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  21. I might be wrong, but...isn't the last picture where there's only the bottom half from one of JYJ's Photoshoots? Does that mean the "another group" she moved to is JYJ? Oh God, if it is I wish them luck, with such a crazy girl stalking them to "be their friend" they're going to need it. Well, at least she said that Sasaengs who touch and hit the stars are the worst, she's right on that subject.

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  22. "I began as a TVXQ sasaeng and then moved on to another group."..... I'm assuming EXO, lol

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  23. In the last pic their asking to guess which one is Yoochun. ewe

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  24. "One time, a member was walking out when a sasaeng fan grabbed him by the back of his hair and caused him to fall over. He ended up injuring his tailbone. She only did it because she wanted to be remembered by him, even if it's for something bad."

    Pretty sure this is the incident of EXO-K's Kai. The fanaccounts of that incident are almost identical to this account.

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  25. To be their friends?


    Yeah because every celebrity is dying to be bff with a girl who hacks into their accounts, follows them around in taxis, and sneaks inside their dorm >.>

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  26. if they sleep overnight outside celebrities' dorm, i wonder where the hell and what the hell their parents are doing. unless they snuck out or something, but i doubt thats the case for alllllll the sasaeng fans out there.

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  27. and the cap was talking about Yoochun. I remember CCTV photos they got from his own garage. Holy they even set CCTV inside his residents =.= and I saw fancam that he got hit on the face... now I know why they did that... so that he can remember them.

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  28. What a vapid existence to lead. Can these sasaengs not find anything better to do with their lives?

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  29. I was given to understand that the primary reason why companies don't file police complaints against the sasaeng fans was because they were too young and since they're underage they can't be prosecuted properly but if they're older then can't they take some action?

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  30. rofl I really disliked this girl just a few moments ago. Now I think she´s just adorable. She reminds me of marshmallow... and lambs. Cute!!! X3 (Still dont like her voice and her songs though)

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  31. the caption says "guess which one is park yoochun" so yeah, it's about jyj :)

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  32. haha yup, it's clearly from an NII photoshoot

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  33. God I hate Sasengs with a burning passion. They fucking assault their bias and still claim that they are fans. They need mental help.

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  34. Get a fucking life bitches!!!

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  35. is there even a juve detention in SK?
    i guess mental institution there are for "inheritance-grabbing purpose" only when it could house ilijins & stalkers.

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  36. seriously fucking mental. there needs to be laws to punish them and make them stop.

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  37. The dumb police just think it's a phase that shouldn't really be taken seriously -.- Like I don't think anything is going to be done until god forbid one of them shoots an idol.

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  38. One of the reason I think they don't is because Sasengs are the main people who buy a shit ton of their oppars merchandise and bulk buy their albums.

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  39. Haven't you watched that tv report about sasaeng last or two years ago? They said some sasaengs had to be rich or did sexual favors for stalking celebrities.

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  40. " The ultimate goal of sasaeng fans: "To become their friend.""


    Chills all over when I read this. Creepy as fuck O~O

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  41. i got the heebee jeebees

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  42. I thought they spent most of their money on the stalking, a lot of them supposedly get into prostitution to pay for just the stalking 'privileges' I don't think they'd actually buy the albums then.

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  43. I've heard stalkers say that fear and love are functionally identical. When you're scared of someone, you start to obsess over them and where they are and what they're doing and what they think of you. You can't help it, you keep thinking about them and wondering how they will react to every single thing you do. They become the last thing you think about before you go to sleep and the very first thing you think of when you wake up. Doesn't that sound exactly like love?


    So if you can't make somebody love you, you make them terrified of you and maybe in your sick mind, it's sort of the same thing.

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  44. I can see why some obsessive fans might want their idol to remember them, but why would you go to such a certain extent to hurt someone you idolize so badly by hurting them? Do they want to be remembered as "that girl that made me break my tailbone?" I'm sure that would be a memorable encounter, but next time the idol sees her, he/she will only remember her like that. Does that make the sasaeng fans happy? I don't understand the logic...

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  45. Now why am I not surprised the faces of those 3 in the last picture are cut off? And those the names of a band that was mentioned in the Korean article is not mentioned in this "translated: article. Only partially translating articles? I wonder what reason lies behind this. But I can guess. http://news.nate.com/view/20130329n31503

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  46. I heard that a trainee in Infinite's label Woollim Ent. was a major Infinite sasaeng fans and audition for the company just to get close to Infinite. She was accepted and was actually gonna debut in that Woollim Girls group! It makes me wonder hoe many other sasaengs have purposely auditioned at their oppa's companies just to get in.... *scary*

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  47. I think they do both since they still want to support them. Remember some these people are in there twenties and thirties so they may be able to get a job to pay while stalking I mean I'm not going to be suprised by anything these people do.

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  48. How come there is not law againts these people ?? Or are the idols afraid of losing fans if they tell the police ? I understand the feelings that they have but they become way to obessed..who dosen't want to be friends with their idols !!

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  49. 'The ultimate goal of sasaeng fans: "To become their friend" ' O__O yeah right like i would be friends with a person that pulled my hair and made me fall on my butt so hard i ended up with a tailbone injury...
    ps: i facepalmed at the elementary students/pregnant women/sleeping in newspaper comments... thats wrong in so many levels... WHERE ARE THE STRAITJACKETS WHEN YOU NEED THEM?

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  50. right!? shes just naturally cute.. and as solo singer vs all the groups out there.. kpop needs someone like her =)

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  51. Sasaengs buy albums, just not that much compared to the amount of money they spend on stalking. I think the main reasons why companies don't prosecute is 1) it's costly for the company and the sasaengs only bother the star, not the CEO and 2) they don't want bad press. Imagine the kind of headlines that would come out if a celebrity sues their fan? No matter how terrible the sasaeng is they'll still generate sympathy because they're a powerless young person against a company.

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  52. This is why a law MUST be created so police can step in and arrest them. They are NOT "Innocent young fans" they are dangerous, invasive stalkers.

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  53. The last picture is jyj picture from nii

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  54. Can you translate news about the declaration of war?

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  55. i have the video yoochun was slapped by sasseng

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  56. not that great sorry. thanx for trying

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  57. "names of a band"

    J
    Y
    J

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  58. Holy shit. These stalkers aren't kidding. Install CCTV just way too much D:

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  59. Many of the sasaeng fans are minors and nothing really happens if you call the police on a minor. They just give them a warning and maybe tell their parents.

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  60. The last cap is JYJ.. Just leave them alone. Stars are human too

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  61. An the one he just come out from salon..these bitch are crazy

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  62. A scout actually recruited her while she was following infinite around with her cousin... smh. They used to thank her on the albums though until she left so I guess she was pretty okay.

    I think they finally got their crap together though because now they ask you if know infinite and are their fan when you audition... and even if you are suspected to like them they kick you out without letting you audition lol.

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  63. Nah, they're separate from the main diehard fans from fanclubs. Their goal is only to stalk and know more about the oppas than everyone else can.

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  64. A lot of these sasaengs seriously need to have their asses thrown in jail for what they do while the ones with conditions - i.e. the ones who are pregnant need to be sent to a rehab center.


    The ones who invade celebrities' homes, mentally and physically harass their victims for all I care, can go fuck off and be beaten in the streets with batons and baseball bats. I don't even condone violence against women, but there are times when force is the only option left to deal with a persisting threat to society.

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  65. Sasaeng Fans = NO LIFE.

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  66. These bitches need to be thrown in jail. Why is this not being taken more seriously?

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  67. but you admit it was great. thnx for trying. =)

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  68. Netizens got this right :) Everyone agrees...sasaengs aren't fans...they're stalkers and they commit crimes to do their stalking. It's ridiculous and they need psychological help.

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  69. What I want to know is what their parents say about this...

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  70. they'll make a law when one of them kills oppa

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  71. It seems like a lot of money, time, and effort just to get a brief moment of attention from another human being.

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  72. i can't believe that some ppl make excuses for those Sasaeng -_- they're so sick omg even pregnant women? wtf! where r their husbands?

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  73. In the original article they actually stated JYJ's Yoochun in the same paragraph about idol being hit by saesang. So he was the one who got hit? F8ck so freaky.

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  74. i'm surprised how sasaeng fans can cope with schooling and um... stalking(?) their group. :/

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  75. They tell their parents that they sleep over at a friend's house so they won't get suspicious. But a lot of these fans are in their 20s, 30s or sometimes even older, who don't live at home anymore, so they don't have to tell anyone where they spend their nights.

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  76. "How did you two become friends?" "She started stalking and we've been friends ever since." Yeah, I can definitely see that happening.

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  77. I watched this episode and it made me mad how they made fun of the whole situation!! They just made jokes and laughed at this all. But this is serious! The idols get harrassed and stalked on a daily basis! These stalkers even put the artists' life in danger when they follow them in taxis and cause a car crash! I think Korea should take this seriously and not make "funny" interviews with sasaengs and act like it's not important. >:(


    I don't understand the deal with the JYJ sasaeng at the end though. They showed her pictures of JYJ members' legs, mouth and ears, and asked her to identify Yuchun in each picture. But you really don't have to be a sasaeng fan to be able to do that! I could easily tell which one he was, and I'm not their stalker. I'm just a fan who saw their photos and videos a lot of times, so I can recognise their body parts. That doesn't mean you're a stalker though.. so I don't really understand the point of that part in this episode. :S

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  78. sasaeng fans ranges from elementary school students to 40 year olds.

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  79. yeah... if you're 6 months pregnant and chasing a celebrity around in a taxi...that's a major problem.

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  80. This is fucked up. No matter how much I loved Jaejoong, I'd never do that to him. He's also a human being, and he needs his privacy. But these sasaeng doesn't seem to know the word privacy. i remember they followed JJ to Park Yong Ha's funeral and took picture of him bowing to to pay his last respect.
    They also crashed Yoo Chun's father memorial. That's so..... dissapointing.

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  81. wow a pregnant woman cares more bout stalking than taking care of her baby

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  82. seriously? they're sick.

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  83. I absolutely think that is one of the best songs to ever exist ever.. haha Mia by IU I listen to it almost every day since I discovered it, does she have any other songs like that? :)

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  84. Lol I think I know the reason why NB did that, it's pretty obvious, but whatever, it doesn't really matter

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  85. Prolly pregnant because of doing sexual favors for the taxi drivers.....

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  86. This shit is crazy. These people need help........or Jesus.

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  87. Are there any male Sasaeng fans around?

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  88. That's just tasteless.

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  89. Lol,they don't allow u in the company in u happen to be a fan of infinite! Well i guess u gotta take precautions,cause infinite's sasaeng fan are said to be increasing.

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  90. I don't think i've seen the report. *goin off to look for it*And yes,they must need loads of money to pay for the taxi and stuff.And its not even various part-time jobs they are doing,Sexual favours!!! just the idea of middle school,high school kids doing it is sickening.They've lost all sense of reason if they reached to that extreme.

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  91. They really don't feel tired aren't they.... Running , screaming and even sleep infront of the idol dorm.,.... I think most of them don't have other important things to do... I like kpop to but sleeping infront of the idol dorm is kinda to much for me......

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  92. hmm. the screencap in the article is JYJ and the kr article mentions Yoochun.... =__=


    seriously...they have the worse sasaengs ever. back then, i didn't understand about these pics being posted online... but there would be sasaengs posting pics of Yoochun and Yoohwan sleeping (in their OWN room) + pics of Jaejoong sleeping in a /private sauna/ room which sasaengs broke in... sasaengs would always trespass into their homes. (which is why jaesu specifically chose the place they currently live to minimize the entrance of sasaengs)


    Other sasaengs threw /period blood/ at jaejoong's face, gave them period blood stained undergarments (which they would sneak into the boys' bags when not looking), hurt their family members, disturbed yoochun's father's funeral, broke in their dorms to kiss them while sleeping.... i mean i could go on and on... but all i can say right now, is that these sasaengs need some mental rehab and some jail time.

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  93. seriously those girls r crazy

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  94. All of them are still busy counting $ from sponsors.

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  95. whose picture is it the most bottom picture?

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  96. what's with the last picture? it's a jyj picture..o.0

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  97. i feel so bad for some idols, how could you ever feel safe?

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  98. my first thought: How she got pregnant in the first place? How can she get husband/boyfriend when she is that crazy over other male (I'm just assuming)? Seriously crazy.

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  99. kill them before they kill themselves and people they think will harm their ~oppas~

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  100. they were talking about jyj's sasaeng fans, the last pic was from jyj's nii photo shoot

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  101. It might also have gotten to the point were its too many to prosecute and maybe the same reason police don't deal with it, just too many people to deal with, at its worst its like a stalking mob. The best celebs can hope for is the security at the place they live in keeping the people out and the gates cleared.

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  102. He ended up injuring his tailbone --ouch

    children, please think about what your parents have done to raise you and repent.

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  103. In the original article is mentioned that the fine for a proved stalker is 80.000 KRW, that is less then 80 USD. Why should the police bother then this is al they can do?

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  104. Just a thought, but if they're already older and not children, then shouldn't the excuse of "Oh, they're only juveniles" not work anymore when applied to the law system?

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  105. from another site:

    "there are various types of sasaengs:
    Taxi Sasaengs - the ones that follow their cars and follow them from schedule to schedule.
    House Sasaengs- the ones that stay all day around their dorms/houses and sleep there overnight. These are the ones that break into apartments, scream their love loudly through the night. Most likely culprit of the leaving their mark, by pooping by the door, period letters etc.
    Internet Sasaengs- the ones that hack into their accounts, steal their social
    security/national ID info etc. put trackers on their cars and snoop around, to get private info on who they talk to, their private pictures etc.
    Rich Sasaengs - the ones that can afford to travel with them all over the world, even flying with them on first class. There was an interview with an older Kpop singer, who mentioned flying in first class with TVXQ and he realized the entire cabin was filled with sasaengs, who just stared at them the entire flight and as soon as the boys stood up, grabbed everything their bodies touched, pillows, blankets etc.
    Older Sasaengs - act as leaders, the ones that get jobs with credit card companies, phone companies etc. and help provide info to the other sasaengs, they lead the pack and sponsor some of the younger ones."

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  106. how u have time to get pregnant if ur a sasaeng?

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  107. wow rich sasaengs...
    I'd rather buy a pair of Louboutin with those money instead of being a sasaeng

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  108. Yup this picture.

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  110. actually like if it's a teenager like I can understand more because you know teenager girls (and boys) are just going through puberty. But saseng fans that are like 20s and older I'm just like there is actually no excuse...

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  111. I don't think puberty is an excuse for stalking someone and waiting outside someone's house.

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  112. actually there are sooo many things that sasaengs know, but they're still keeping those information... and if the police do something to them, they will spread all information they know, like idol's bad attitude and such... idols are human too, so it was also impossible for them to be flawless... they have bad attitude too

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  113. so right!! I was still imagining unicorn and the end of a rainbow when I was in elementary school...
    and the pregnant women!?!!! perhaps there will be a baby sasaeng because its mom gives it a birth in front of the idol's dorm

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  114. some fans do sexual favor to pay the taxi driver and such... and yet they're still hoping their idol to marry them? oh God, will the idols marry a second hand stuffs?

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